1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Boom. He thought more minutes a week was enough. I 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: think again. He's the last remnants of the old republic, 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: a sole fashion of fairness. He treats crackheads in the 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: ghetto gutter the same as the rich pill poppers in 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: the penthouse. The clearing House of Hot takes break free 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: right now. It's never a dull moment on the Fifth 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: Hour with Ben Maller. But Ben is not in the 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: house today. I will be your solo host, David Gascon. 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: So that's right. If you did tune in for Big 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Ben Mallory, he will be here shortly, but not right now, 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: in place of him. As a former offensive lignment of 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: the National Football he actually played ball at Notre Dame 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: that got his way to the Denver Broncos, played on 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: the great Super Bowl fifty championship team that one of 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: the best defenses in all the land. Ryan Harrison were 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: in the house. What's up, man? How you doing? David 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: good to join you, my friend. Yeah, it's good to 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: have you in here. There's a lot of chatter obviously 20 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: with the NFL off season's It's never a dull moment, 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to some of your background in 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: a few moments, but I have to jump into this 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: because you're knee deep in all of it. With the 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: National Football League. What's the sentiment out there right now 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: with with training camps right around the corner. A lot 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: of eyeballs on Drew Lock. But of course there's still 27 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: those rumblings about one Deshaun Watson in Houston, well DeShawn Watson, 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: but also Aaron Rodgers. I mean, half of this town 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: still believes Aaron Rodgers is going to be the quarterback, 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of with them. I mean, I don't 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: know how the Packers saga ends, um, with the way 32 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: that everyone's behaved. Now, Aaron's gonna have to fork up 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: thirty million if he doesn't play this year, which at 34 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: the end of the day, David, I don't know. I 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: don't know what you can do to get me thirty 36 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: million dollars. Manage you, right, So I think eventually something 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: will come of it. But yeah, Drew Lock just did 38 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: not show progression last season, especially um and in a 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: big game for his career, the second game against the 40 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: Chiefs last year, through two interceptions that cost him the game, 41 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: and those are the kinds of mistakes that um that 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: coaches and fans are tired of seeing. And there's already 43 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: been some of the same. Yeah, it's it's frustrating to 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: look at when you have a quarterback in that kind 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: of situation. It's not like you're in a spot where 46 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: you have minimal talent around you. This isn't Sam Donald 47 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: in New York with the Jets. This is a guy 48 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: with potential Pro bowlers on the outside and a pretty 49 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: darn good defense, in particular at home. So when you 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: look at the situation in Denver right now, Ryan, and 51 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: you're calling the shots there, I mean, obviously you love 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: to have a guy like Aaron Rodgers. But if this 53 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: all plays out, and let's just say for argument's sake, 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: nothing serious happens to Deshaun Watson, would you more look 55 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: closer towards Aaron Rodgers or would you look immediate and 56 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: down the road with a guy like Deshaun Watson. What 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: would you rather have? Well, the Shawn Watson's fascinating from 58 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: a longevity perspective, right even with Aaron Rodgers, you're thinking, listen, 59 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: Tom Brady at forty three says hello, but you're thinking 60 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: maybe two to three more years for Aaron Rodgers, But 61 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson, you've got ten to fifteen years, right, 62 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: And that's a different element if you're a team looking 63 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: at it. I don't believe anybody's gonna touch DeShawn Watson 64 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: with what's currently going on. Um and And but at 65 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: the same time, you still have an opportunity next year 66 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: for both quarterbacks. I mean, after this season, the guaranteed 67 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: money for Aaron Rodgers goes away. Um and and next 68 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: year you'll still have an opportunity to play for Deshaun Watson, 69 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: who doesn't want to be a part of the Texans 70 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: this year or next. So, um, those whether you could 71 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: take your shot now is one question depends on you know, 72 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: how do you and your fan base field. I don't 73 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: think any fan base is willing to accept the player 74 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: who has the kind of allegations that the shan has 75 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: at this time. Um and Aaron Rodgers, how does that end? 76 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: And and so in that case, Deshaun has far more 77 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: upside um. But Aaron Rodgers is the man right now 78 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: who hurt your locker room more. You know, just just 79 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: from the stories that I've heard, Uh, you know, uh, 80 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: it's Aaron Rodgers has been operating on a different level 81 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: than his teammates for a long time. And I understand 82 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: two as a champion myself. When when you are a champion, 83 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: you have a different dedication to how you know, to 84 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: the details, and you have a zero patience for people 85 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: who don't pay attention to those details. So I understand 86 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: how those things could be mistrewed. But you know, it's 87 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: always tough to bring an older guy into a locker room. 88 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I was a league dad, and when 89 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: you come into the NFL, you have guys who who say, hey, 90 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, we uh, you know, we want to go 91 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: spend Friday night, Thursday night, Friday night, and Saturday night out. 92 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: And as a dad, you're in the NFL saying, well, 93 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: hey man, I want to make sure that you know, 94 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: I get nine hours of sleep and my latte is 95 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: ready in the morning. You know, it's a different life. 96 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: So it's always tough to bring older players into a 97 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: locker room and professional sports well, but being a former 98 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, if you were in that situation with a 99 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: signal color of either Aaron Rodgers or Deshaun Watson's talents, 100 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: who would you be more inclined to block harder for 101 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm not to say that you're gonna be bailing on 102 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: a play, but I would imagine that there's an extra 103 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: sense of urgency when you're blocking for Peyton Manning as 104 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: opposed to somebody else. Well, the urgency comes from the 105 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: the opportunity, right, It doesn't matter, um what what what 106 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks doing do? You have an opportunity to win 107 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: a championship. And that's what made us so successful Super 108 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: fifties season. Who was the best team that I've ever 109 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: been a part of. We had guys who were ready 110 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: to play, who showing guys who were goofballs, who were 111 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: showing up at six five in the morning, you know. 112 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: And so at that point, you know, Peyton created a 113 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: lot of urgency at the line of scrimmage with his 114 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: dummy calls and his omas um. But you want to win, 115 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: and if you're with the team that wants to win, 116 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: that urgency comes out no matter who the quarterback is. 117 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: So going to that team than ryany He mentions the 118 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: greatest team were played on. Leading up to that season, 119 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: was there any thought that you guys can do what 120 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: you did? There was a hud percent belief that we 121 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: would do what we did. You know, Uh, Shannons Sharpe 122 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: came and spoke to us to start the to start 123 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: the season during training camp and he said, Hey, if 124 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: you're not here to win a championship, get the brief 125 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 1: out of here. And that was pretty much the tone 126 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: that we had from from day two of being together 127 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: in training camp. We knew it was possible. We knew 128 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: that this was probably Peyton's last year. Um, and a 129 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: lot of the team, you know, I I had come 130 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: from the Chiefs to come come back to Broncos. The Broncos, 131 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: A lot of the team had lost in Super Bowl 132 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: forty eight, which saved a lot of money, right, because 133 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: a lot of guys are like, hey, don't buy everybody 134 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: hotel room because if you lose, you're gonna be looking 135 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: at those people saying I got ten grand hotel rooms 136 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: sitting here looking at me at the face. Right. So, Um, 137 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: you had a lot of benefit and experience and a 138 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: ton of willingness. And that's what made us so successful. 139 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: Was that More on the offense, though, was it? The 140 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: defense is and the guys on the defensive side brought 141 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: the wood every single week. So when you have a 142 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: guy like DeMarcus where that puts a little bit more 143 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: pressure on other guys around him to actually perform up 144 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: to his level. Well, DeMarcus Ware also showed us the 145 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: way right how to behave I still drink plant based 146 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: protein shakes because De Marcus Ware told me to, so, 147 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: you know. And he would have dinners and events and 148 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 1: things that gave guys opportunities to get out of the house, 149 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: but also kept you in the nucleus and in the 150 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: in the world of hey, let's be successful, let's not 151 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: be stupid. All right, let's have some fun, but you're 152 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: asked better be in practice tomorrow morning. And having a 153 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: leader like DeMarcus Ware and the influence he had on 154 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: von Miller and then von Miller's performance that entire season, 155 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: not just that year. You know, Malik Jackson, Danny Trevathan, 156 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: Chris Harris, ju and you'r a keep to leave and 157 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: we had some real players, real players, and it was 158 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: a big difference. No flies on the best secondary ever 159 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: played for Oh, no question, no question at all. It's uh, 160 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: it's interesting just the way that the game has changed 161 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: so much, not only from the last five to ten years, 162 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: but from the last twenty or twenty five years. Do 163 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: you think we'll ever get that kind of similarity of 164 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: what we had. I mean, you could go back to 165 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: the earlier Bronco Championship teams. Those are play action, run 166 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: balanced teams. Do you think the game will ever morph 167 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: into something like that again, or do you feel like 168 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: it is going to be three and four and five 169 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: wide personnel with a lot of this read option stuff. Well, 170 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting. Not everybody can do with Patrick 171 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: Mahomes is doing. Kansas City Chiefs and I covered their 172 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: their Sunday night game against the Broncos, and I talked 173 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: to some of my former coach and I said, hey, 174 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: you guys are running two plays at the same time, 175 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: and they kind of laughed and they were like, well, 176 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: we haven't been called on it yet. You know, so 177 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: as much as everybody thinks they can do the run 178 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: pass option, not a lot of teams are gonna have 179 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: a called run play and a quarterback where you give 180 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: the green light to and say, hey, if you see 181 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: a matchup you like, let that ball rip. You know, 182 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: by the way, that quarterback has to get it down 183 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: field before that lineman gets on his third step. So 184 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: you're always gonna have play action pass. A lot of 185 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: football is you know, human nature when you when you 186 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: show a linebacker football and you give the right shoulder 187 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: read as a quarterback, and that running back comes over 188 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: and quickly the offensive lineman shows to the backer. He 189 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: has to think run and that's how you create plays. 190 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: So we're always gonna see an evolution and evan flow. 191 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: But the play action passed, the downhill run, the third 192 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: and one, the fourth thing goal, those are gonna be 193 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: staples of every championship team for now and forever. What's 194 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: the longevity look like for a guy like Lamar Jackson. Well, 195 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson has the decision to make. He has to 196 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: decide whether he's gonna be the best player he can 197 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: be or if he's gonna spend his time trying to 198 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: be a player that he's not. And and I've talked 199 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: to player, I've talked to players and coaches who are 200 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: on on the Ravens and one of the things that 201 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: last year and they're stretched. Uh. You know when the 202 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: coaches told me Lamar wanted Lamar Will wanted to be 203 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: a passer. He just wanted to be a passer, and 204 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: we lost games because of that, and if you look 205 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: at roster's not really build for it. And so Lamar 206 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: Jackson has to make that decision and say, hey, I 207 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: am Lamar Jackson. I can be a great passer, but 208 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be a Peyton Manning. I'm not gonna 209 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: be a Tom Brady. Same way Tom Brady is not 210 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: trying to be Lamar Jackson, right, And so if he 211 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: can just work within his skill set and maximize his potential, 212 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: the nuances on play action passes when he decides to run, 213 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: getting out of bounds, I mean, these are things that 214 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: are really going to allow him to win a championship 215 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: if he can commit to being different, and that's what 216 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: every champion is. Be sure to catch live editions of 217 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven 218 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: pm Pacific. Be sure to catch live editions of The 219 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm 220 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. 221 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: If you had a quarterback for the next five years, 222 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: would you rather have Russell Wilson or Justin Herbert? Russell Wilson, Uh, 223 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's got an unbelievable, arm I mean, where sweatpants 224 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: when he throws the deep ball. It's unbelievable. But Russell 225 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: Wilson has won, and so he knows that, you know, 226 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: a seemingly insignificant game in week seven is the difference 227 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: between home field advantage and not. Right. He also knows 228 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: what matters and what doesn't matter when you're going to 229 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I mean, David, I had over two 230 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: ticket requests the week that we the week before we 231 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: went left for the Super Bowl. None of those people 232 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: were my friends, right, And so you have to do 233 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: a lot of success, as you know, is understanding, recognizing distractions, 234 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: and having total belief in yourself. And that's something that 235 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has perfected over his career. Can you take 236 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: me through that then? To Ryan? I mean, because you 237 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: played ball at the collegiate level in Notre Dame and 238 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: then you go to Denver and you bounce around the league. 239 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: What has that been like for you when when you 240 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: went from high school to college and started receiving a 241 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: ton of accolades and then you have the spotlight on 242 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: you and then you get to the show, you get 243 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: to the National Football League, how did you actually process that, 244 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: and did you have anyone help you along the way, 245 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: like hold your hand and say, hey, Ryan, this is 246 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: how you act like a professional? Eat, drink, sleep, the 247 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,599 Speaker 1: whole smash. Well, a lot of it started with I 248 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: never played football for you, right. I played football because 249 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: it gave me an opportunity to maximize my skill set. 250 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: I mean, David, I've been taking people's lunch money since 251 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: high school. Has come faster than that, you know what 252 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, let's go um. And so the big 253 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: thing for me is I never did it for anybody else, 254 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: and it never did it for external validation. But to 255 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: your point, there were dozens of veterans who who showed 256 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: me the ropes. You know. Um, I think about Wade Smith. 257 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: When I went to the Texas, they used to call 258 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: me the wandering because I didn't know where I was going, 259 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: and he literally showed me with the bathroom of the 260 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: meetings rooms where you know, you need people like that. 261 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: I also had a mental performance coach all ten years 262 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: I was in the NFL, and to really understand, um, 263 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: the process behind success. You know, you make the game 264 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: winning catch, the game winning block, the game winning kick 265 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: the same way you make any block, kick or pass 266 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: or cats right, if you're catching the ball, you look 267 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: the ball into your hands and you squeeze it when 268 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: it hits your fingers. I mean, when you focus on 269 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: the process, you reduce anxiety over So I add people 270 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: that would talk to me in that athletic realm, people 271 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: that you know taught me that not every coach is 272 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: a good coach. And the year we won Super A fifty, 273 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: we had a mental performance coach on on our staff 274 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: that really helped, you know, helped us identify external versus 275 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: internal validation. Am I playing football to make David happy? 276 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: Am I playing football because I want to have fun? 277 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: To rip someone's face off? Because now it really doesn't 278 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: matter whether David wants tickets or if David wants to 279 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: come to the after party. Those are things that will 280 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 1: figure themselves out. That's not why I'm here. And that's 281 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: a very different player to play against. And so I 282 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: absolutely needed great coaches that the great coaches that I 283 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: did have, the veterans I have, And I also needed 284 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: to make sure that I remembered why I love the 285 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: football and had nothing to do with other people's opinions. 286 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: On that note, because you had that kind of help 287 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: and you had that kind of support, did other players 288 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: seek you out for that kind of inspiration, that kind 289 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: of comfort, and that kind of I guess advice along 290 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: the way, of course, you know. I mean one of 291 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: the things you know that I wrote about in my 292 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: in my book Mindset for Mastery, is that when you 293 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: choose your mindset, when you decide that you're there for 294 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: yourself and not other people, you're going to scare the 295 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: crap out of people. Right, There's a lot of players 296 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: in the NFL are getting paid to lose. They didn't 297 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: win a championship, they didn't go to the playoffs, and 298 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: they still got paid. What do you do? And so 299 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: you start to notice the people who don't get affected. Hey, 300 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: if a coach is ripping my ass, Hey if I 301 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: did something wrong, great, But I'm not always I'm not 302 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: gonna take everything that coach is saying as as improvement. Right, 303 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: There's gonna be some personal attacks. There might be some 304 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: some attacks on you know, your physical capabilities. That has 305 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: nothing to do with the fact that I'm gonna go 306 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: out here the next play correct my mistake and help 307 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: us win a game. And when you start being around 308 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: people who are not thrown off by someone's anger or 309 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: by someone's angs. Do you gravitate towards those people. You 310 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: gravitate towards people who move when things go wrong. And so, 311 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: whether it was in the game that we were losing, 312 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: after a loss, making sure you still are having fun 313 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: and appreciating the ride, I was very lucky to be 314 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: a leader in the in the last three offensive line 315 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: rooms that I was in. It's the old thing, right, 316 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: showing me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser, 317 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: exactly right, you know. But but you also have to 318 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: you also have to understand. When I was at the 319 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: Steelers that we won the Super Bowl, I believe we 320 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: lost four straight games at one point, and everybody's head 321 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: was down, like, hey, listen, you're gonna lose some games. 322 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: That cannot stop you from believing that you're gonna win 323 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: a championship. And you gotta have fun, you gotta smile, 324 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: you gotta stay loose and UH and those things make 325 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: a difference. You. You brought the book, and I want 326 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: to talk about that at at some decent length real quick. 327 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: What inspired you to you to actually write it? Mindset 328 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: for Mastery UH to available on Amazon and you know, 329 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: when I look at my tenure NFL career, the difference 330 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: between people who are successful and who are not are 331 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: people who choose their mindset. And when you win the 332 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, everything you believe about yourself comes true for 333 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: other people, but you have to believe that first. So 334 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: from getting knocked out of my cleats in college to 335 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, learning the lessons that I learned in the NFL, 336 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to share that with people because, David, we 337 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: talk about failure less than we talk about sex, and 338 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: I want to tell you the failure is the most 339 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: common thread to every success story. Here's how I failed, 340 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: Here's how I built my way out of it. Each 341 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: of us choose our mindset every day, choose yours with 342 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: the words I am, I can, I will. When you've 343 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: had those situations of doubt, what do you do? I 344 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: mean best practices? Because the rounity is we've you know, 345 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: in the sports talk world, and you are like you 346 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: were in the show with us. You know, for last 347 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: year year and a half, we've been through the coronavirus 348 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: as pandemic. There's no sports going on. People are losing jobs, 349 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: they're losing loved ones, they're isolated, um, take me through 350 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: that for you, not only as a professional in the 351 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: media world, but even just as as an individual that 352 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: has an impact on the local community. What have you 353 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: done during that time? Well, you know, one, I am alive, right, Like, hey, 354 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, to have an opinion means you're alive. Good 355 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: for you, right, and for a lot of us, for 356 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: six hundred thousand of us, that that's not the case, right, 357 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: So I would say I would literally say things like, 358 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: I am alive. I'm grateful, I have a job, I 359 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: am employed. You know, I am responsible for myself and 360 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: my family. I'm gonna make choices that are what's best 361 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: for them, not what anybody else thinks about. I can, 362 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: you know, I can attack every day with opportunity. I 363 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: can read, I can learn, I can you know, mitigate 364 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: my risk to to get COVID. I can tell stories, 365 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: um that are similar to what you'll see in in 366 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: the last dance, or I can relate, you know, a 367 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: sports topic to something people are talking about in their 368 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: real life. I will have fun doing it. I will 369 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: make sure I make people laugh doing it. So that's 370 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: how I choose my mindset, That's how I walk into 371 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: any everything from parenting to living, to being a professional. 372 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: And once you set a framework, I mean, there's study 373 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: after study that shows our brain believes in the words 374 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: we say out loud, right, and when you envision and 375 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: visualize your success, it usually happens. So I'm I'm a 376 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: big believer in Hey, you know you could when you 377 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: go against von Miller, David, because you're no doubt gonna 378 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: put on the pads this year now that coronavirus as 379 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: you football ready, when you when you're facing von Miller 380 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: on third and nine, you better believe you're gonna block 381 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: his ass, right, what's your choice? And and so I 382 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: just take that to my life often of Hey, I 383 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: could choose to be upset, I could choose to wallow 384 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: and anger or frustration, but that's not productive. What can 385 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: I do? How can I move forward? What way will 386 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: I decide? Here we go? You brought up the last Dad, 387 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: So that was something I think most of the sports 388 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: world watched during the summer of last year. If there's 389 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: a guy on that championship team with the Broncos in 390 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty, that you could say, I don't want 391 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: to say exactly, but you can kind of put in 392 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: that same picture as a Dennis Robins saying, hey, he'll 393 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: probably leave for a series, go to Vegas, party his 394 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: ass off with some strippers, and then come back and 395 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: do his thing. Who would that have been on that 396 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: Bronco team. Thankfully we didn't have a guy like that. 397 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: I will tell you after we won the Super Bowl. 398 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: I mean I was in Vegas when Darth Vader came 399 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 1: from the club at the at the win and had 400 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: a fifteen thousand dollar bottle of champagne and afro Jack 401 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: started playing on the DJ boot and that was crazy, right, Um, 402 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: But we didn't have guys like that. And I mean 403 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: we had guys that got it in, don't get me wrong, 404 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: but it was time to play. It was time to play. 405 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: And and also you know, um yeah, I think it's 406 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: part of the interesting thing about the Last Dance and 407 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: that senior you're talking about. You know, Coach Jackson was 408 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: talking to Michael and robmin Of like, hey, Robin needs 409 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: a break. Coach Kobayak was not gonna do that. You know, 410 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: Coach Kobyak is not gonna go to Peyton and say, hey, Peyton, 411 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: you know Ryan Harris needs a break. He's gonna go 412 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: to Vegas for a couple of days of practice, like, 413 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see him soon. Like that's not happening 414 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 1: on that team that we were on. But I mean 415 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: there's a Dennis Rodman on every team and every family, 416 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: isn't there. Yeah, no doubt about it. Ryan, It's been 417 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: a lot of fun having you on UM. Since you 418 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: are in the media scope right now, what do you 419 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: actually do? I mean you're on radio, but do you 420 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: do public speaking or you're outside of that. Are you 421 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: on anything else with the with the Broncos or what 422 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: do you do? What? Yeah, I got a sports talk 423 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: show weekdays here in Denver, and uh I do all 424 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: the Nor Dame football radio broadcast. I do some West 425 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: with One radio broadcasts, and uh I might do some 426 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: might do some TV work for Telemundo this year on 427 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: their NFL package because uh I speak into Spanish. So 428 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: it's all fun, man, and more than anything, you know, 429 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm a husband, I'm a father, and uh and being 430 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: financially literate and doing the right things with my money 431 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: really set me up to do the things I enjoy 432 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: now in retirement. Speaking of retirement, and many people might 433 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: not know this, but I had a little bit of 434 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: a hint on it. I don't know what your playing 435 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: weight was exactly. I don't know if your weight is now. 436 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: But being six five and amongst all those other things, 437 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: you're also a surfer. So what the hell is it 438 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: like you getting out a board right now? Especially when 439 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: you come down to southern California. Oh? Man, I love it. 440 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: I was just in Huntington Beach. Man. Uh, I need 441 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: a nine foot board first of all. Okay, so be 442 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: honest here, I need one of those storm breakers or 443 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: whatever they're called. Um, but I love it, man. I 444 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: love getting out in the water. I love hitting the wave, 445 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: and if anybody serves, they know it's. Uh it's a 446 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: feeling unlike any other, and it's something that I think 447 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: about every day. I was gonna say, were you watching 448 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: some old school point break, like looking at some Johnny 449 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: Utah instructional videos to get up on the board or what? 450 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: I still remember watched point Break? I don't think I 451 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: wanted kidding movie. Yeah, but you know, one of the 452 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: off seasons in the NFL, I went to Maui and uh, 453 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: I got on, I got surfed my first wave, and 454 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: it just felt like God's hand was throwing me towards 455 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 1: the shore and saying have fun. It was just an 456 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: incredible feeling. And then later on dropping into my first wave, 457 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: it was just such a such an awesome experience, and 458 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: uh something, I just I literally, David, I was, I was. 459 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: I was in l a surfing and I surfed through 460 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: lunch down in uh down in um uh southern California, 461 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: Orange County over there. So I just I'm crazy about it. 462 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: I love it, and I love the and I love 463 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: the looks too. And people see one a black surfer, 464 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: a huge black surfer. You know, you get some of 465 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: those what the hell is this guy doing here? But uh, 466 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: I love the looks, but I love the waves even better. 467 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: So does that mean that you have the bug that 468 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: you'll start traveling, maybe to Australia or New Zealand or 469 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: somewhere in Europe to try to catch some waves one day? 470 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: The minute, the minute these kids are at college. You know, 471 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm out of here, David. Let's go man, let's let's 472 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: serve the world. Brother, Why the hell not? Well, listen, 473 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: if if you do do that, and when you do 474 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: do that, I need you at least promised me this, 475 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: because it's it's it's it's culture. When you when you 476 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: grew up in the nineties. Is that you just need 477 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: to pop in or find an old school VHS tape 478 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: and just look Patrick Swayzy Kiano reeves Gary Busey point Break, 479 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: not the remixed version of it, the original version of 480 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: point Break. I can promise you ride you won't be disappointed, 481 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: and you might be feeling on nostalgic too, because uh, 482 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: this is back of the day when Gary Busey was. 483 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: It was actually pretty decent, and of course Patrick Swayzy 484 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: was was alive and well yeah before you started ripping 485 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: out and yourkin systems and stuff like that. Why you 486 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: gotta threatened me with a good time, David. I'll check 487 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: it out for sure. And uh hey, and anybody who's 488 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: listening who has a surf yet get yourself a lesson. 489 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: Check it out, no doubt about it. Ryan, One last 490 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: time before we let you go, a mindset of Mastery 491 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: ore again. Can everyone find that for you? Yeah, you 492 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: can check it out on Amazon dot com Mindset for Mastery, 493 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: or visit my website Ryan here at sixty dot com. 494 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: And and if I can be of service or resource, 495 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: please reach out for sure. For sure, Ryan appreciate the 496 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: time today. Have a good weekend, man, and I'm sure 497 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: we'll catch up against some time before the NFL regular 498 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: season gets underway. Thanks David serves up. 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