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Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

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Speaker 1: the straded beer of normalcy. Picking it off on a Thursday,

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Speaker 1: The sun was out, the team was out on the

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Speaker 1: said that to me the other day because we have

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Speaker 1: and so the coat that I'm using in that given

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Speaker 1: And I have my winter coat there and a wind

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Speaker 1: bringing an umbrella. If you bring one, it probably won't rain,

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Speaker 1: I'm try being a fan of that. We have same

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Speaker 1: Now I have it all myself and I yeah, now

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Speaker 1: I have I put all my outer garments I have.

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Speaker 1: close to do. But the stuff and my stuff that

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Speaker 1: And then there are developments Steve already with the draft class.

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Speaker 1: He has signed his four year contract rookie contract. Twelve

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Speaker 1: twelve point eight six million, fully guaranteed. Well, I guess

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Speaker 1: It's not even a long, long weekend in Vegas, right,

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Speaker 1: the old system. You talk about pressure, and we talk

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Speaker 1: fireable offense. Like what are you doing? They would throw

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Speaker 1: what are we giving? Argue, Well, you know, the as

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Speaker 1: California for twenty two players drafted. Bill's drafted James Cook,

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Speaker 1: who's from Miami Central, and caier Elam who's from North

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Speaker 1: Palm Beach. One of the other states that we mentioned

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Speaker 1: Georgia with twenty nine. Bill's drafted balin Specter. He's just

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Speaker 1: from Calhoun, Georgia. Maryland, which was tied for sixth or

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Speaker 1: fifth with ten players, Bills drafted Christian Benford, who is

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Speaker 1: from Randallstown. We're getting a Marylands here. And finally Texas,

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Speaker 1: which led the way with thirty two total draft choices

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Speaker 1: from the state of Texas, the Bills drafted Terrell Bernard

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Speaker 1: from Laporte. So not only do the Bills gravitate towards

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Speaker 1: the Power conferences most notably the SEC, also gravitate towards

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Speaker 1: HEROD gravitate towards the football producing states in terms of hometowns.

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Speaker 1: I mean, almost every one of their draft choices came

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Speaker 1: from one of those major football producing states. I put

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Speaker 1: it on the white board, Campion Acts. Yes, no, it's

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Speaker 1: not an accident. Yesterday. I put it on the white board,

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Speaker 1: and I right underneath the general rule of thumb for

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Speaker 1: our Twitter polls. Right underneath those rules, I put down

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Speaker 1: Bills draft traits. Yeah, I mean, that's we talked about.

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Speaker 1: We debated it all the time. Few exceptions, there's a

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Speaker 1: few exceptions, but less than a handful, I would say,

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Speaker 1: in the five drafts they've had, of the thirty five

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Speaker 1: or forty guys they've drafted, probably thirty big, strong and

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Speaker 1: fast league. Of the thirty two guys they've drafted during

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Speaker 1: Sean mcdermot's eraror here, less than a handful have been

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Speaker 1: have not had physical traits. All right, So we have

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Speaker 1: to take a break here. We We did throw out

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Speaker 1: a question to you on Twitter at one Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: which veteran player will be pushed the most by a

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Speaker 1: Bill's draft pick and tell us why? So, survey your

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Speaker 1: Bill's rosters and let us know who you think is

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Speaker 1: going to be pushed the most by a Bill's draft

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Speaker 1: choice at their respective position. We do have to take

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Speaker 1: a break here though, because when we come back, it

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Speaker 1: is the latest edition of Tasker Teammate and there's a

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Speaker 1: draft tie in as well. We'll get to that next

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Speaker 1: here on one Bills Live present by Kalida Health, It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, Welcome back to one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: It's Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you here on a Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and it is time now for the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: Tasker's Teammate, brought to you by Wegman's Meals to Go

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Speaker 1: Delicious Meals Delivered. Download the Wegman's app today, Steve, It's

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Speaker 1: bill a little while, Yeah it has I'm ready though, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so here we go. Clue number one born in Pasadena, California.

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Speaker 1: I was a highly decorated high school player at John

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Speaker 1: Muir High School, where I played quarterback, wide receiver, and

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Speaker 1: running back and earned Pacific League Player of the Year

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Speaker 1: honors my senior year. Let's see high school quarterback, receiver,

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Speaker 1: and running back and running back did everything. He was

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Speaker 1: a teammate, A grand to be a team I don't know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we moved on to Clue number two, Number two. I

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Speaker 1: began my college career at Pasadena City College, followed by

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Speaker 1: Sacramento City College, and after I got my grades right,

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Speaker 1: I moved on to Division two Portland State for my

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Speaker 1: final two years of school. Our teams in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: three and ninety four were successful enough to get me

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Speaker 1: noticed as I became a seventh round pick at the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills in the nineteen ninety five draft. Derek Holmes.

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Speaker 1: Derek Holmes is correct, Steve Tasker, well done on clue

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Speaker 1: number two. Derek Holmes, he absolutely nailed it. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: great teammate, great guy man. It was yeah, yeah, he was.

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Speaker 1: I remember there was a touchdown. He had a bunch

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Speaker 1: of really good runs for us. He was he was

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Speaker 1: with Thurman in the backfield. I remember one against the

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, might have been in a playoff game where

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Speaker 1: he takes the handoff and he makes like nine guys

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Speaker 1: miss and then just walks in for like a forty

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Speaker 1: eight yard touchdown here in the wild card. Good run. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, he's like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: he scored because he was in traffic almost the whole

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Speaker 1: way he was running. It was a great run. So

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Speaker 1: we have Derek on with us now, Oh yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: and Derek, how are we doing, Derek, I'm pretty good?

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Speaker 1: Is great out here in sunny California. Yeah, So he

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Speaker 1: is referring to the wild card went over the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: in ninety five. That's what Steve's remembering here, where you

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Speaker 1: had five you had eighty seven yards and a touchdown

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Speaker 1: in that game twenty three seventeen win over the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the touchdown run Steve's referring to Derek, Yes, sir, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I was a great run, Ashley. I think as

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Speaker 1: a team we broke a record of mean combining yard

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Speaker 1: expressing yards meet them, tim tim d Yeah he might

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Speaker 1: because I know you guys were up over two hundred. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Timmy had like a fifty. He was in for like

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Speaker 1: three plays and had a fifty two yard touchdown, right

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Speaker 1: as Van Miller's Canadian comment, that's right. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: That's right. That's good. Are you back in California? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I live in Oh. Yeah. It's good to see you, man.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. It's great hearing from you. Um,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yeah. The cool thing and one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons we picked Derek is this week's tasker's teammate

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Speaker 1: is after his playing career, he kind of set up

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Speaker 1: pro Way Training, which is a program for you know,

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Speaker 1: perspective college athletes and stuff. And one of the guys

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Speaker 1: is we understand it, Derek that came through your program

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Speaker 1: was Bill's fifth round draft choice, Khalil Shaker. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember him? Coming through your program, yes, sir, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: Swiss now Swiss, yeah, yeah, because he could do so

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Speaker 1: many things and Swiss army very nice, very nice. Tell

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Speaker 1: us about what what what did you see in him?

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Speaker 1: I mean, because we're watching him and he's Uh. The

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Speaker 1: bills are actually getting a lot of positive vibes from

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Speaker 1: analysts around the country about taking Shakier. What can you

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Speaker 1: tell us about him? What? And how old was he

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Speaker 1: when you first saw him? And what you what do

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Speaker 1: you can can he tell us about him? Now? Actually, um,

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Speaker 1: Khalil came to my program. Uh, one of my friends

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Speaker 1: tell me about him. He was a what we call

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Speaker 1: hunder the radar guy coming out of Vesta Maria, out

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Speaker 1: of high school. Uh got him in my program. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he had any offers at the time,

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Speaker 1: and once he left my offers my program, he ended

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Speaker 1: up with like I think about twenty offers Power five

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Speaker 1: and he chose boys the state UM out of a

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Speaker 1: lot of top schools, and they were kind of pissed off.

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Speaker 1: Khalil is a great athlete. I'm a great kid. Um.

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Speaker 1: You guys are getting a really uh first and second

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Speaker 1: round draft pick in the fifth round for sure, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what people are saying. He's got some he he's

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Speaker 1: got some great trade physical traits. He obviously his hands

546
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: were really good, good route runner um and good after

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Speaker 1: the catch as well. So that's it's interesting too. Why

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Speaker 1: did he pick Boise State as opposed to maybe some

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Speaker 1: of the Power five schools. Um as the Boise State

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Speaker 1: receiver coach at the time, um My buddy Eric Kisho

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Speaker 1: man Um he played when me at Portland State, So

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Speaker 1: um M khalil Um ended up with a great relationship

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Speaker 1: and he filled that was the best place for going

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Speaker 1: to go. And he went to Boise State and he

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Speaker 1: ended up coming out of there one of the best

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Speaker 1: athletes to ever come out of Boise State. So he

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Speaker 1: made a great choice. So as as good an athlete

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Speaker 1: as he is. The one thing that Bill gm Brandon

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00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: being said Derek about him was that, um he believes

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Speaker 1: he has the football IQ as a rookie to kind

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Speaker 1: of serve as their number four where he's going to

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Speaker 1: back up all three starting receiver spots. That was a

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Speaker 1: role they had for Gabe Davis here as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: What can you just say about his football into religions

565
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Speaker 1: haven't been around him. You know, Khalil like, he picks

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Speaker 1: up things pretty quick, and he will contribute this year

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Speaker 1: for the bills. I guarantee you that the kid is

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Speaker 1: smartly sharp, graduated already. Uh. You guys are good and

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Speaker 1: a great one. Uh. I spoke with him for a

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Speaker 1: minute right after the draft. We kind of text each

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Speaker 1: other back and forth, and you know, I was so

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Speaker 1: pumped up when I I mean, I hate that he'd failed.

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00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: When I'm glad he failed to the bills, you know,

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Speaker 1: so now I have another reason to come up there

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Speaker 1: and support. Yeah. What what'd you say to him about?

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Speaker 1: What'd you tell him about Buffalo? Actually, I just told him,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a great place. I have a lot

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Speaker 1: of connections up there that I want to make sure

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Speaker 1: I connect him with UM and that it's a family

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Speaker 1: oriented place. Um. He's just got engaged, he's about to

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Speaker 1: get married, I'm saying, So he's going to everything's gonna

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Speaker 1: right track for him, and to come to Buffalo where

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Speaker 1: he can save a lot of money, you know, and

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Speaker 1: it's not expensive as going through some of these other teams.

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Speaker 1: So he's in a great place. Uh. Grace system, great team, UM,

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Speaker 1: and I'm a Buffalo I'm a bill, so telling just

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Speaker 1: an idea. What are your memories about Buffalo, your your

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Speaker 1: relationship with the club. I know that at the end

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Speaker 1: of it, they traded you, right, did they trade you

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Speaker 1: to were Green Bay? Yeah? Yeah, I was, and so

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Speaker 1: many we were so sad to see you go because

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Speaker 1: we were it was such a fun locker room. You're

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Speaker 1: a great part of it. What are your memories about Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: the teams you were on there, and how your career

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Speaker 1: went here. What are your what are your memories of it? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Buffalo was great for me. Um. You know me coming

597
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Speaker 1: up from Pasadena, I was I had a checker background,

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Speaker 1: so you guys are Um always had me and told

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Speaker 1: me to do the right things. Um, even though you

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Speaker 1: guys were going at UM, I kind of helped myself Steve.

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Speaker 1: When I was there, I was hanging out party in

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Speaker 1: a lot, you know what I'm saying. So the Bills

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Speaker 1: had to make a decision on whether to keep me

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Speaker 1: or you know what I'm saying. Antoine that came in,

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Speaker 1: So I think they drafted by the fact they drafted

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Speaker 1: an twine Smith because of my nightlife that I was having.

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Speaker 1: So I think if I would have did everything in

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Speaker 1: the right way. Um, I would have been in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: for the rest of my career, but I did things

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Speaker 1: that you know, wasn't helpful for my career there, and

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Speaker 1: that's why I ended up getting traded to Buffalo. It

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00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: was cool for me because Green Bay Dorsey Lovers had

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00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: got hurt at the time. I became the starter there

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00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: for a couple of games. Yeah, so it was great.

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Speaker 1: And then your your son Darnay is with the Giants

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Speaker 1: right yes, And how how is he doing down there?

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Speaker 1: I mean he's got he's actually got Brian Dable as

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Speaker 1: his head coach now. It was just up here the

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Speaker 1: last four years offensive coordinator. Yes, it's a great because,

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Speaker 1: like I said, he has another He got Bill's family

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Speaker 1: all again. So he loves it. He loves a new coach.

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Speaker 1: You love what they're doing right now. He's up there

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Speaker 1: in OTAs right now. Um, it's a big year for

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Speaker 1: him because they're gonna give him a chance to play

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00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: inside and outside, get Pete for the outside starting job.

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Speaker 1: And he's already Um, he's already there knickelback. So it's

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00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a great year for him to be up

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Speaker 1: there with them. Guys. Um, coach wink he I seen

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Speaker 1: he loves his aggressiveness, so it's gonna be a great,

630
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: great year for him. Yeah, well that it's it's great

631
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: talking to you. I know, I tell you that you uh,

632
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Speaker 1: for whatever you said about about the night you were

633
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: you were never a bad teammate man. Yet you were

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Speaker 1: a fantastic guy to having or a squad we're spending

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Speaker 1: and um, I'm glad to see your son having such

636
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Speaker 1: a great career and you helping other kids UH on

637
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: their path to the National Football League because you were

638
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: a great teammate and a great player for the Bills.

639
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Yes, sir, I appreciate you guys having me. Yeah,

640
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: it's good to catch you up with you, Derek, all right,

641
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: all the best to you, and hey, keep keep churning

642
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: out those NFL players. We'll keep drafting them up here. Yes,

643
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: that's cool. That's cool. We had two. We had Khalil

644
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: with Drake Jackson, I was drafted, had three other ones

645
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: picked up on UH. I'm restricted contracts after the undrafted

646
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: free agent contracts. Actually, so we're we're in the right track.

647
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: We're doing it. Asking you guys don't know, keep on

648
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: Seymour was one of my kids too, you guys. Okay, yeah,

649
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: the corner right, oh there you go. Yeah, definitely, all right, awesome,

650
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: We'll keep on, keep on, keep doing the good workout there,

651
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: keep churning him out. We'll u if you will continue

652
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on him, for sure, and we'll

653
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: tell Brandon Being to keep his eye out too. And

654
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: if you get up here for a game, make sure

655
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: you make sure you give us a shout out. We'll

656
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: we'll we'll cross paths when you get up here, man, exactly.

657
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: I'll see you guys this year, all right, man, take

658
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: care of Derek. That's Derek Holmes, former Bills running back,

659
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 1: the latest Tasker's teammate, and with his Pro Way training

660
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: program out in California, has been churning out professional athletes,

661
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: mainly at the NFL level, and the latest is Bills

662
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: six round, fifth round pick Ghalil Shook here. Well, we

663
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: got him and the guys down the training room they

664
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: you know, they always call around, and the guys at

665
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: Portland State where he came out of six which at

666
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 1: the time was a D two program, right, they say,

667
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: he's you guys, got the best athlete we've ever seen

668
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: come out of here. At this was, you know, twenty

669
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: five years ago. I said, you got the best athlete

670
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: we've ever seen come out of here. You got him,

671
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: and he came and he's six foot two, twenty six.

672
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: Like he was great. He was a really good play,

673
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: a really good player, and uh and played that way

674
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: for us. He backed up Thurman and he and Thurman

675
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: were tight. And uh, as you can see some of

676
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: the he's got some he's got put together. He's got

677
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 1: some sweet highlights many dude. And then his son, Darnay,

678
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: he played corner at UCLA and was a fourth round

679
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: pick of the Giants just a couple of years ago.

680
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: He's entering his third season with the Giants. And you

681
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: heard Derek kind of provide the update. He's he's already

682
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: the entrenched nickel corner for the Giants and now under

683
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator Winging Martindale, he may get a chance

684
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: to play outside as well. So his son's having a

685
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: nice start to his career too. Yeah, that's it's it's

686
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: interesting because things have changed so much since, you know,

687
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: since Derek and I were in the league. You got

688
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, college kids that you know, they really put

689
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: the effort in away from the field, um and and

690
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: Derek himself admitted there was a ton of guys like

691
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: him and unlike me too that you know some of them.

692
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: The things they do now are far far, aren't away

693
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: more than we did away from the field when we

694
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 1: were playing, even in the off season. Of course, everybody

695
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: works out and does all that, but man, old man,

696
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: it's a it's a different world. And now he's he's

697
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: kind of at the forefront bringing kids to their full potential.

698
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: Get him into the league, which is nice because as

699
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: he said too, as he said he had a he

700
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: had a pretty rough upbringing in Pasadena. I mean he

701
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: was in areas of Pasadena where drive by shootings were

702
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: a regular thing. So I mean he came from a

703
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: rough neighborhood. So I mean to get all the way

704
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: to the NFL and get out of that, it's pretty good.

705
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: So it's just a shame his career didn't last longer.

706
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: But I think he as you heard, he was pretty

707
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: self effacing and kind of blaming himself for getting traded

708
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: by the Bills because of his nightlife routine. Yeah right,

709
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: said he believes the reason they drafted Antoine was in

710
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: part because they were going to move on from him

711
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: because they drafted Antoine in ninety seven and he was

712
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: gone like three or four games into the season. Thurman

713
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: stuck around. I think the Thurman was with Bruce and

714
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: Andre all the way till ninety nine. But it was obviously,

715
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to do something and to help Thurman out,

716
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: and you know, Antoine was their answer to that, and

717
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, and to let Kenny go, but or um

718
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: Derek go. So it is a you know, you think

719
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: back and all the things that happened, not only with

720
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: having Thurman Thomas, you know, who's a should have been

721
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: a first but he was a second ballot Hall of Famer.

722
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: The transition from that team that went to all those

723
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: Super Bowls and the guys that came in and played

724
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: with them, and the transition and the evolution of the teams.

725
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 1: And it's just like every other team in the league.

726
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: You see tremendous players come through the door. Some of

727
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: them it goes great for a minute, sometimes it goes

728
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: great for a long time, and sometimes it never works out.

729
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: And that the odyssey that all these guys are on

730
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: and the guys we you know, the Bills just drafted

731
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: these seven names they just drafted from Kayer Elam all

732
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: the way down to Bayalin Specter in the seventh round.

733
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: They got their own stories to tell us. You know,

734
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: it's hard not to be really interested in these guys.

735
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: And you know you used to when I talked to Darry,

736
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: I mean we were really we were teammates for a minute.

737
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: And life man here. I you know, I just turned

738
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: sixty a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, he's you got

739
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: him by ten years. I think he's the seventy one birthday,

740
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: so he's about nine years younger than you. Yeah, it's

741
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: it's great to hear from him. He was a really

742
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: great player, great teammate and a real asset to that

743
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: locker room. And and like you said, when you get

744
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: to be old, you look back at your youth and say,

745
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: what an idiot. I was, right, So we've all been there,

746
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: all right. So that's Tasker's teammate for this edition, Derek Holmes,

747
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: was your answer. Steve got it on the second clue.

748
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: We will take a break here. When we come back,

749
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: we'll take a closer look around the NFL, and we

750
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: do have to get ready for PF's Steve Paletzolo who's

751
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: joining us in the second hour the program to go

752
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: over the draft class. And we'll do that and our

753
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: number two here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collot

754
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back,

755
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker review and Steve, I gotta say

756
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: that we wait for the other shoe to drop. And

757
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: we had Brandon being here here earlier in the week

758
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: kind of reviewing the draft, and I asked him a

759
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 1: question regarding free agency because he's always tinkering with the roster,

760
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: and he says, there's plenty of time before we're playing

761
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: real games in September. But he said, you know, our

762
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 1: cap situation is a little restrictive, not a lot of room.

763
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: You gotta sign the draft class. And then he always

764
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: likes to keep about five million in reserve to sign

765
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: a player in case there's a rash of injuries at

766
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: a certain position, things like that. And then we hear

767
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: the story about the Giants. They've got a guy who's

768
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: cost prohibitive on their cap, cornerback James Bradberry. So it's

769
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: a veteran corner they were trying to trade him. Joe

770
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: Shane was quoted as saying, the trade market is softer

771
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: than I had anticipated, So it doesn't look like they're

772
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: gonna be able to trade him, which means, in all

773
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: likelihood he will be released. The catch here is how

774
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: much is he willing to play play for, you know,

775
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: like in terms of a salary, if in fact he's cut.

776
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: Because here's the rub Bills aren't the only team without

777
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: a lot of money left to spend, right everybody's everybody's

778
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: tapped out, not everybody, But what is he willing to

779
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: play for? Presumably on a one year contract, because he's

780
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: got to think long, got to take a one year

781
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: deal and then get back into the free agency pool

782
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 1: next year when there's more money for everybody to spend,

783
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: and he'll be there at the beginning where people are

784
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: looking for a guy. The question is what does he

785
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: play for when he's inevitably and cut. What kind of

786
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: opportunity is he looking for? Now? Does he want to

787
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 1: come to a team like Buffalo where they just drafted

788
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: a number one guy They got Tredavious White who's coming

789
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: off an injury. Of course, they also got they got

790
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: some pretty good depth here as well. Well, let's not

791
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: forget that he has some history with coach McDermott. His

792
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: rookie year was with the Panthers, which was McDermott's last

793
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: year's defensive coordinator. Right, so there is some familiarity, right,

794
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: So he could come to Buffalo for an opportunity like

795
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: that where maybe he plays a bunch, maybe he only

796
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: plays a little, maybe he's only a backup whatever, and

797
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: maybe he does maybe he can wiggle his way into

798
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: the starting lineup. Okay, but he's going to a contender

799
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: or does he go to a place maybe they're struggling

800
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: a little more, but he's gonna play and he's gonna

801
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: have a chance to play well a place like maybe

802
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: like Jacksonville, Houston, you know some places that are building,

803
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: trying to get back to some places that can still

804
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: pay him some money, right or so yeah, whoever, that

805
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: might be the quest. I think the decision that he's

806
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: going to have to make with his agent is where

807
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: am I going to maximize my value right the best

808
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: this year? Is it playing on a lousy defense where

809
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: I'm on the field all the time and can rack

810
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: up some stats and get paid that way, Or am

811
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: I better off being on a super Bowl contending team

812
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: where there's high visibility, and if I'm making plays in

813
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: big games, I can maximize my value even if you're not.

814
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: Even if you're not on the field, you're you're part

815
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: of a winning culture. You're in a locker room that

816
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: knows what's going on, and that has some value on

817
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: the free agent market as well. Plus, when you're on

818
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: a super Bowl team and you only play in spots,

819
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: people are saying, well, that's a really good team. That's

820
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: why you know, it's hard to get on the field there, right, Yeah,

821
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: they're all that goes into it. I think, what you know,

822
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: let's be honest first and foremost, who's paying me the

823
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: most and by how much? Yeah, he's a former second

824
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: round pick in the twenty sixteen draft by Caroline. As

825
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 1: I mentioned, he's twenty eight years old. He'll turn twenty

826
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: nine before next season, turns twenty nine on August fourth.

827
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 1: But he's had production just about every year in the league.

828
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got fifteen career interceptions in six seasons

829
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: and eighty two pass breakups in his career. So it's

830
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: not like he's not provided some measure of production. I mean,

831
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 1: he's not leading the league, but he's been a capable

832
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: starting cornerback and good size at six one and two

833
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: fifty two fifteen. So you know, where where does he

834
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: end up? That is That's the question that I'll be

835
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: pondering after he I think is going to be inevitably

836
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: released because nobody's taken on that contract that he has.

837
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: That's the whole reason the Giants are Yeah, I'll say,

838
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: what do you know why? He was on Sean mcdermot's

839
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: defense in Carolina. He's six one, two twelve and runs

840
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: a four to five and they didn't want to pay

841
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: Josh Norman, you know, they let the franchise player go

842
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: and he signed with Washington second round pick six one,

843
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: two twelve. If he would have been a four four guy,

844
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: he's a first round pick, you know, instead of a

845
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: four five guy. But he's got a you know, twenty sixteen.

846
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Speaker 1: He came in, he's been around for a while. He's

847
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: certainly a good professional. And the reason this is all

848
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: coming to light now is because Giants GM Joe Shane

849
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: was on WFA and in New York and basically gave

850
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: indication that James Bradberry is going to be released pretty soon.

851
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: Here they need cap relief. He said, you know they

852
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: had compensation in place, but not contract terms. That was

853
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: the problem. So it looks like Bradberry is going to

854
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: get released, and you know it's not ideal for him

855
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: and his agent because as we said, most of the

856
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: money is dried up in the free agent market, so

857
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: be a tough spot for him. We have to take

858
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Speaker 1: a break here, but when we come back, we will

859
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: be joined by Pro Football Focuses, Steve Palette solo and

860
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: surprise surprise, will be reviewing the draft, not just the Bills,

861
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: but the league at large. We'll catch up with Steve

862
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: next here on one Bill's line for centerbody collid to health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio at a Steve Tasker who has

864
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: been all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was

865
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for you. State of

866
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: a lily, Steve a blimp. We're not even in the

867
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Speaker 1: stratosphere of normalcy here all right here we are our

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Speaker 1: number two on a Thursday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

869
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: and please to be joined now by the Pro Football

870
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Speaker 1: Focus senior analyst also hosted the PF NFL podcast. It

871
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: is Steve Pellett Solo here to join us and talk

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00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two draft. Now that it is in the

873
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: rearview mirrors, Steven, you doing doing great. Thanks for having me, guys. Yeah,

874
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Speaker 1: I want to I want to begin here, and I

875
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: know I gave you a little bit of a heads

876
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: up on this, but Brandon Bean, in talking about both

877
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: James Cook and Khalil Shakir and how they might diversify

878
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo's high powered passing game, pointed to their run after

879
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: catch ability. And we know the Bills ranked twentieth in

880
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: the league last year in yards after the catch despite

881
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: being a prolific offense. I know that you guys kind

882
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: of keep tabs on a lot of those kinds of numbers,

883
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: even at the college level. Can you give us like

884
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: a thumbnail sketch just to just what kind of run

885
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: after catch ability those two guys figure to bring to

886
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 1: this offense. Yeah. Yeah, Starting with Shakier at wide receiver,

887
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: he's over six yards after the catch per reception and that's,

888
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, throughout the course of his career over at

889
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: Boison State, a phenomenal number. Right. I mean you you'll

890
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: get a couple of prospects every year that are between

891
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: six and eight or so. But it's a it's a

892
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: huge number reception running backs, it's a little bit more

893
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: skewed just because you're going to be such in screens

894
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: and pauses underneath, and it kind of correlates directly with

895
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: your duds for reception. But James Cook is up there

896
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: as well with a massive number. And I love the

897
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: position the Bills are in right that they can be

898
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: that good offensively and have these incredible offensive weapons that

899
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: now you're just talking about adding these extra missing pieces,

900
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: which is explosive running back. You are definitely catch type

901
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: of receiver, and I think they added the couple of

902
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: good ones. And you talk about this like James Cook

903
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: for instance, we started talking about him on Friday, but

904
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: in the morning before they drafted him. There's no telling

905
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: what happens, And particularly for these playoff teams who draft

906
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: in the bottom third of the first round in every

907
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: subsequent round. Did it surprise you that so many teams

908
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: moved around in the first round with the nine trades

909
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: that happened, and then to have so many receivers go

910
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: when they did, along with the pass rushers. Did anything

911
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: about this surprise you? Or that James Cook was there

912
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: for the Bills when he was and were able to

913
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: trade down still get him. What surprised you about the

914
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: bottom third of the first round and into the second

915
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: I think all the movement was a little surprising. I

916
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: think the I think the wide receiver moves though, six

917
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: wide receivers going in the top eighteen is in line

918
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: with this offseason in the NFL. You know it is, Steve,

919
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: It's not the same NFL that you played in. It's

920
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: not run the ball stop the run has passed the

921
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: ball stop the past. I mean that is the NFL.

922
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: And you can see this in the off season. It

923
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: is it's a race to get the next franchise quarterback.

924
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: It's a race if you don't have that guy, to

925
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: get the next wide receiver one, you know, that elite

926
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: guy that is just unstoppable. And I think the way

927
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: you win today is with by crowding the field with

928
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: really good receivers, really good pass catchers, and making life

929
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: difficult for defenses. The Bills have been incredible at doing that.

930
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: That's why they've gotten that great progression out of Josh

931
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: Allen and that's why they have one of the best offenses.

932
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: So I think the NFL's caught onto that. That's why

933
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: you still all the receivers go as far as Cook

934
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: being there in the sixties, I think, I think it

935
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: makes sense. You know, there's a reason why no running

936
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 1: backs went in the first round as well. The running

937
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: back value is lower than it ever has been because

938
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: of the past First league, because you can spread it

939
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: out and kind of give running backs more room than

940
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: ever and not rely on their skill as much. But

941
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 1: so I'm not surprised that Cook was there. But again,

942
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 1: given where the Bills are offensively, you have incredible weapons

943
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: and what were they missing, Yes, a little bit more

944
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: after the catch in the short game and a little

945
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: bit more explosiveness out in the back build with James Cook.

946
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: And while you know there were twenty eight receivers drafted

947
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: in the entire draft this year, which was more than

948
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: pass rushers, which was only twenty six, they both got

949
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: beat by the cornerback position. There were thirty nine corners

950
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: taken Steve in this draft, including ten in round seven.

951
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: You talk about it being a passing league and having

952
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: a pass and stop the pass, it looks like people

953
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: are trying to catch up on their rosters by stockpiling corners.

954
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: Now you have to I mean again, it's it's a

955
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: starting position. Right, corners are on the field seventy percent

956
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: of the time, and today's NFL sometimes more for certain

957
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: teams depending on how they play, and that's part of

958
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: It's not exactly matchup basketball. It's not like you go

959
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: into a game and say, Okay, you're covering him, and

960
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: you're covering him. It's not the NFL. But when teams

961
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: come in with a six four receiver, a five ten receiver,

962
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: one guy's a great rout runner, one guy's great at

963
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: the test point, you need different types of corners to

964
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: be able to match up and combat what offenses are

965
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: throwing at you. So I think that's a big part

966
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: of it as well. And I think the best teams,

967
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: the winning teams have great receiving course and great secondaries,

968
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 1: and they also have that depth. And I think having

969
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: a ton of corners is good both tactically in that

970
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: in a given week you need three or four to contribute,

971
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: but also overall team building strategy. It's crucial because you

972
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: can't have weaknesses in the secondary. They're easy to attack

973
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: for offenses. So depth is at a premium at the

974
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: cornerback position. And another reason again I think you see

975
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: so many coming off the more. Do you see position

976
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: like we've seen running back be devalued in the in

977
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: recent decades, do you see linebacker kind of doing the

978
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: same thing. I mean, there's certain positions where people are going, oh, okay,

979
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: you know, you take a running back in the first

980
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: round and people are looking at you sideways, you know,

981
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: and it's kind of getting that way with anything outside

982
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: of a pass rusher, a corner, a wide receiver, a

983
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: quarterback or offense, maybe an office and tackle, you know,

984
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: every place else you take him in the first round,

985
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: it's like, Wow, that guy better be a unicorn. Yeah,

986
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: I think linebacker, it depends. You know. Last year we

987
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: saw a bunch go in the first round. Yeah. I

988
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: think there was four pass rushers in the top twenty

989
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: or twenty linebackers. Sorry, one of them was a unicorn.

990
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: It was Michael Parsons, so maybe he doesn't count as

991
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: a linebacker. But last year we saw a little run

992
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: on linebackers. I think it's when you find the three

993
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: down option. When you find a guy who is good

994
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: enough in coverage, good enough against the run, maybe adds

995
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: a little bit as a blitzer, you feel more comfortable

996
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: about that linebacker and round on one. It's it's the

997
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: limited linebackers. It's the guys that have a weakness and say, man,

998
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: I can't trust this guy play at the run if

999
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: in a six man box, you know, when there's not

1000
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: as much bulk in front of him. Those guys drop

1001
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: are the guys that you can't trust in space, you know. Uh.

1002
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: Leo Chanel is a third round pick to the team,

1003
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: So I think his fantastic against the run ten years ago.

1004
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: He's a first round pick fifteen years ago for sure.

1005
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: The way he attacked the run. He's just limited in

1006
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: coverage right, he just hasn't done it as much. So

1007
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: I think of a position like linebacker interior defensive line,

1008
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: you have to be a three down guy for the

1009
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: most part to go up there. Jordan Damos, but the

1010
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: Eagles might be an exception. But yeah, he started to

1011
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: see linebacker in defensive interior maybe dropping a little bit

1012
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: much like running back cast. So, Steve, I know in

1013
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: one of your more recent write ups with the draft grades,

1014
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: you gave the Bills a solid B plus. I believe

1015
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: is how you termed it. Why don't you elaborate on

1016
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: that in terms of what you like that the Bills did. Yeah,

1017
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: So I think that pick at the top. You know

1018
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: they traded up to get him. I think they saw

1019
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: the run on corners. I absolutely love Trett McDuffie, who

1020
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: went at twenty one. If he had fallen to the Bills,

1021
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: I thought that would have been a great fit. I

1022
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: don't know if they feel the same, but clearly they

1023
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: targeted Elam, who's number five corner on our board. I

1024
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: think it sits what they need opposite Tredevious White. I

1025
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: also think it gives them some flexibility. I mean, Elam

1026
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: is long, he's six two, he moves really well. If

1027
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: he could play press man coverage, It's not what the

1028
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: Bills like to do a ton, but I think it

1029
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: gives them that flexibility if they want to play press

1030
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 1: man on the outside with Elam in with predevious White.

1031
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: So I really liked that pick the question with Elam.

1032
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: His production got slightly worse as his career went on.

1033
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: He had seven penalties last year in only ten games.

1034
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: He looked awesome though, as as a freshman back in

1035
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Much like it there extingly kind of career

1036
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: path there. So Elam showed all the skills that you're

1037
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: looking for, and I think he fits in at that

1038
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: number two cornerback spot. Again we mentioned James Cook and

1039
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: Khalil Shakier. I think they just add elements to this

1040
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: offense that maybe they didn't have before. Me personally, I

1041
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: kind of like Christian ben Or you know, in round

1042
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: six on a Villanova, a guy that graded over ninety

1043
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: in coverage for US at the SCS level last year,

1044
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: has good ball skills, gets his hand on the ball,

1045
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 1: and in the style that the Bills like the player

1046
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: right now off coverage, playing a little bit more zone.

1047
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: I think Benford has a chance to even as a

1048
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: seventh round there perhaps contribute at some point down the road. Yeah,

1049
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: we also talked about and we've talked about, you know

1050
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: Elam and Cook and Shakier. What about Terrell Bernard. I

1051
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: mean this is one of these lineback He's a third

1052
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,959
Speaker 1: round guy who kept well actually yeah, third round number

1053
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: eighty nine. Overall, you see a guy like that come

1054
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: in and it's like, well, okay, he's a little undersize.

1055
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: He's kind of a safe like the old days. He's

1056
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: a safety because you know, he weighs two hundred and

1057
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: less than two hundred and twenty five pounds. But he's

1058
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: playing linebacker in Power five conference and he's gonna play

1059
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: linebacker in the NFL at that size as well. What's

1060
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: he bring to the table? And and is that? Is

1061
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: that the NFL linebacker these days? It is especially you know,

1062
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: maybe Bernard more of a specialty linebacker too that you're

1063
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: gonna early on maybe game plan uh certain packages for

1064
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, going up against certain teams that have speedy

1065
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: running backs out of the backfield. Um. I think he's

1066
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: good Matt Mulano insurance. You know, he's really fast. He's

1067
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: got to cut down on his miss tackles head almost

1068
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: fifteen percent in miss tackle rate last year. But you know,

1069
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: when you're when you're in day to late day two

1070
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: and into day three, I think there's I always like

1071
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: to call it diversifying your portfolio. So with your draft picks,

1072
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: I think you want to pick a mix of athletic

1073
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: projections productive players. Benford from Villenope is a productive player

1074
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: right that we've just seen out there. H do it? Bernard.

1075
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: Bernard's been inconsistent from a production standpoint, but he's a

1076
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: good athlete and more of a projection. So I like

1077
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: the idea of mixing that up, and I think that's

1078
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: what Bernard brings to the table, probably from special teams

1079
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: ability as well. And again with where the Bill's roster is,

1080
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: there aren't many holes. You know, you're not You're nobody

1081
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: on in round three is probably coming in and starting

1082
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: or certainly not on this roster. So you're trying to

1083
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 1: find guys that are going to find their their home

1084
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: and specific parts of the roster. I think and Arts

1085
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: got some of that upside potential at linebacker down the

1086
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: road as well. Talking to Pro Football focusing your analyst

1087
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: Steve Palezzolo, and Steve, I want to get your take

1088
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: on this because we saw three punters get drafted, two

1089
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: in the fourth round, four picks away from each other,

1090
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: and then the Bills at the top of the sixth

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01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: round obviously take you know, Arisa, So in a league

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01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: where more teams than ever are going forward on fourth

1093
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: down and some of the best offenses in the league

1094
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: aren't punting much more than fifty times a game times

1095
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: a season, we see three punters get drafted. What are

1096
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: we to make of that in comparison to what we

1097
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: think the future value is at the punter position. Knowing

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01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: more and more teams are going forward on fourth down. Man,

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01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: It's it's a great question. And look, the Ravens also

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01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: drafted a punter, right, and the Ravens, they have the

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01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: pulse and the build are up there too. But there

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01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: are certain teams that kind of have the pulse on

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01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: smart ways of doing business, right, and so the ravenscrafted

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01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: a punter. It is an interesting aspect that I think

1105
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: there's a combination of Yes, teams are going for more

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01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: on flour absolutely, I think on the surface it does

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01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: seem like maybe the punter is going to be devalued

1108
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: because they're just not going to work as much. You're

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01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: not gonna see as much from the punt game. At

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01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: the same time, I do think there's value to be

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01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: had there in the punt game, right because you're talking

1112
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: about if you're talking about five seven eight yards of

1113
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: field position per punts over time, that does catch up.

1114
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: And I think smart teams are also looking at that

1115
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: and the old school idea of that field position matters.

1116
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: Maybe they're just starting to put numbers to it properly

1117
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: that it does. So it's an interesting aspect because I'm

1118
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: with you, I probably wouldn't spend high draft, fourth and

1119
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: fifth round picks on a punter. But at some point,

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Speaker 1: you know, you get the roster to a good spot

1121
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: and it's like, all right, we're gonna upgrade special teams,

1122
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: and that four or five yards if we're right that

1123
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: we're upgrading a punter four or five yards doesn't matter.

1124
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: Over time, we talked Brine and I've talked about this

1125
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: and other venues about is there going to be a

1126
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: guy who's this and you talk about unicorns. Is there

1127
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: going to be a guy who can who's this dead

1128
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: money kicker? A guy you can depend on, a guy

1129
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Speaker 1: like what you take, Take your pick of any great

1130
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: kicker has ever been, who also maybe three times a

1131
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: game just take snaps and punts it. Or do you

1132
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: head a punter who like back in the old days,

1133
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: the Bills used to have a linebacker Paul McGuire who

1134
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: used to punt. Do you start divvying up that responsibility

1135
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: to get that roster spot back to maximize it in

1136
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: another place or another specialized player. Uh, if you're gonna

1137
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: have a three, you know, three punts a game on

1138
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: average or two point five, yeah, or you're going for it,

1139
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: maybe you just find a guy an old a tight

1140
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: end somewhere who can drop the ball and punt it

1141
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: and live with a really good kicker. Um, we're not

1142
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: far away from that. Yeah, I don't think we're far

1143
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: away from that, I hear you. I mean I think

1144
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: I think thinking outside the boxes it is smart. You know,

1145
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: there are only so many roster spots. I'm of the

1146
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: mind would I would almost take your old gunners and

1147
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, your hardcore special teamers, right, And is that

1148
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: where you store an extra quarterback? You know? Is that

1149
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: where you store an extra receiver? Right? And the receiver

1150
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: might be a specialist, He might just be a deep

1151
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: threat and you're gonna use him five times a game.

1152
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: But you see that in college a lot of times, right,

1153
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: you see a seven man rotation a receiver. You can't

1154
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: do that at the NFL level, but it keeps guys fresh.

1155
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: But those can lead to direct points, right, And you

1156
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: would have to sacrifice a special team's roster spot to

1157
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: do it. I mean, personally, I would explore all that

1158
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: because I love shiny object and fast receivers are shiny objects,

1159
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: and quarterbacks are shiny objects. And the payoff of like

1160
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: nobody develops quarterbacks anymore, right, because he can't hold that

1161
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: roster spot and there's no practice time. But maybe you

1162
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: hold an extra roster spot for a quarterback and he

1163
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: runs into a good preseason and he becomes a valuable

1164
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: trade commodity and it's it's just good for the team.

1165
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: So I think there are ways to explore that down

1166
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: the road, especially as you punt less, the kickoff becomes

1167
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: more of just a touchback fast. But again I think

1168
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: there's other strategy to be had there where good punt

1169
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: is still valuable. Kicking it off not out of the

1170
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: end zone and actually popping it up and putting it

1171
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: right at the goal line is valuable. So you do

1172
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: need a good coverage team, so there is there's more

1173
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: strategy around that, even as special teams does become a

1174
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: little bit more diminished in the coming years. Yeah, we

1175
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: asked our listening audience this the other day, Steve, so

1176
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: I'll pose it to you as well. I think the

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Speaker 1: Bills far and away are still consider the cream of

1178
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: the crop in the AFC East. But is there a

1179
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: division opponent of the Bills in the East division that

1180
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: you think while maybe they haven't caught up to the Bills,

1181
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 1: they've at least closed the gap with what they did

1182
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:43,479
Speaker 1: in the draft this past weekend. I mean, the Jets

1183
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: are closing the gap. Their roster is much better. You know,

1184
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: they added three first round players. I believe they claimed

1185
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: all three were in the top eight on their board,

1186
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: you know, Jermaine Johnson being the third one at twenty six. Overall,

1187
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: the Jets had a good draft. The question is going

1188
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: to be Zach Wilson his development. You know, if he

1189
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: has another year like last year where he just doesn't

1190
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: look like a first round player, it really doesn't matter.

1191
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: But the Jets roster absolutely much better. We know the Dolphins,

1192
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,439
Speaker 1: you know, I staid it like shiny objects. Tyreek Hills

1193
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: pretty shiny down in Miami when you compare him or

1194
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: add him to Jayleen Waddle and what they have from

1195
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: a speed standpoint. But again it comes down to tah

1196
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: you know, is he going to take that next step

1197
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,959
Speaker 1: at quarterback. It is a fascinating offseason where I believe

1198
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: the value of having a true number one wide receiver

1199
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: is through the roof. And it's interesting to me that

1200
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: teams like the Chiefs and the Packers and now the Titans,

1201
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: really good teams have moved on from their wide receiver one.

1202
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: The Bills have walked their's off right and the league

1203
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: team walks theirs up. So are those wide receivers going

1204
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: to elevate the Raiders, elevate the Dolphins, elevate the Eagles,

1205
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: or are the good teams going to stay good or

1206
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: a combination of both. So I think the Dolphins are

1207
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: fascinating because Tyreek Hill is a game changer. The Jets

1208
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: have gotten better. Bill Belichick and the Patriots are always

1209
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: going to be around. I don't think they've added a

1210
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: ton this year, but I think it's definitely a much

1211
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: more competitive AfD East next year. You talk about it,

1212
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: and it's hard to even for Bills fans and Brownie

1213
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: and I are you know, we're talking about the Bills

1214
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: all day every day. But even we have to look

1215
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: at the Jets draft and go, wow, they they really

1216
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: did get better than three of their top four guys,

1217
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson and Bruce Hall some guys and

1218
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: US two had them as the number one player at

1219
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: their position in the entire draft. They got all three

1220
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: of them. That's a pretty good draft they did. Yeah,

1221
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: And even if you go back in a couple of years.

1222
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: The way the Jets built the team, you know, just

1223
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: a back way up. But like when Josh Allen, Sam Darnold,

1224
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: and Josh Rosen were all drafted, all those rosters were

1225
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: in similar shape, especially offensively, and the Bills did the

1226
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: best job of slowly getting their offensive line Betner, slowly

1227
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: adding a few receivers, and then gotting over the top

1228
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: with Stefon Diggs. I think the Jets have an element,

1229
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: and the Jets just never did it until recently. I

1230
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: do think they've They've done a much better job getting

1231
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: their offensive line back on track. That's why they didn't

1232
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: draft offensive lineman higher. They've drafted well, They've added free agents.

1233
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: They've slowly added some receivers. Is Garrett Wilson going to

1234
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: be the guy that puts them over the top. They've

1235
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: added some defensive line talents. The secondary had been neglected,

1236
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: but now Sauce Gardner had dj Read in free agency.

1237
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: They have slowly fixed a lot of the leagues on

1238
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: that roster. In this draft was a huge part of

1239
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: it to get that a lot of those starting positions

1240
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: to look like positions of strength. Now I know that,

1241
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: you know, you guys kind of pay attention to the

1242
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: draft class from front to back. Were there any and

1243
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking league wide now, were there any like Day

1244
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: three sleepers that you were really high on that you

1245
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: thought went to a good place, like a good fit

1246
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: for them. That makes you even more excited about maybe

1247
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: some of the sleepers you had going into the draft. Well,

1248
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, all the quarterbacks are interesting. Sam Darnold's going,

1249
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: I mean Sam Howell going Day three, you know, going

1250
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: in round five. I don't know if he'll get the

1251
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,919
Speaker 1: opportunity with Washington, but I think that's a great, great

1252
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: spot for him. The Jets again falling up Maximith, like

1253
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: they had all those top picks, but like Max Mitchell

1254
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: is a zone blocking tackle, very good and what they

1255
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: like like to do, and they got him at pick

1256
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: one eleven. And you know, right tackle is a place

1257
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: where they you know, if they keep a Kaytac affecting

1258
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: a left tackle, I think Max Mitchell can compete probably

1259
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: with George Fantz as a starter. If you're picking up starters,

1260
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: potential starters in the fourth round, I think that's fantastic.

1261
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 1: So I think the Jets did well there. I thought

1262
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: the Ravens the other smart thing that the Ravens did

1263
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: is there is a drop off in talents historically after

1264
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 1: the fourth round. You know, yeah, there's a Tom Brady

1265
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: that exists there, but overall you're not getting impacts players

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Speaker 1: in round five, six, and seven, and you can find

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01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: contributors in round four. The Ravens drafted six times in

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01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: round four, and I thought that was just really smart.

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01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: Jale Armor Davis, the cornerback out of Alabama. I think

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01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: he has a chance as their corners in Baltimore get

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01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: a little bit older and you know, a lot of money.

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01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Armor Davis has a chance to start at some point,

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01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: I think as well. So the fourth round I think

1274
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: is the place where you can kind of get some

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01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 1: steals about the Ravens and Jets also did well there, right, Steve,

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01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: thanks very much for all the insight. We appreciate you

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01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: spending some time with us here post draft. We'll catch

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01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: you up with you down the line. Sounds great, Thank

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01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 1: you guys. All Right, that's Steve Palatt's solo Pro Football

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01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: Focus senior analyst breaking down the draft. He gave the

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01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: Bills a B. A solid B plus was how he

1282
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: termed it. Yeah, and you know, if you're dinner. Drake

1283
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: great on a bell curve in comparison to all the

1284
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: other teams, which you kind of have to in this draft.

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01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 1: There are teams that because of the draft capital they

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01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: had accumulated, like the Jets, like the Chiefs, you gotta think, Wow,

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01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: they did a really nice job. The Jets having two

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01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: top ten picks and then trading back into the first

1289
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: round and then getting breecee Haul in the second round

1290
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: of the number one running back. Yeah, they're that That's

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01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: kind of an historic draft for them, I would think,

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01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: given some of the things they've done in draft pasts

1293
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: draft past. So yeah, given the Bills a solid B plus,

1294
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: particularly when the Bills are drafting twenty fifth overall, it's

1295
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 1: pretty hard to get up there. Like, you know, you

1296
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: get a really good grade like that when you're drafting

1297
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: in that spot, right. And you know, the Steelers for years,

1298
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: even the Ravens, they were drafting at the bottom of

1299
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: the round every year for like ten twelve years, and

1300
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: they were still able to successfully restock their roster even

1301
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,679
Speaker 1: though they were picking late in rounds each and every year.

1302
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: And it's what made them such a perennial content for

1303
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 1: so long until the quarterbacks retired. Basically, you start to

1304
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 1: get an idea of what these teams see in the

1305
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 1: tea leaves going forward. Think about the Pittsburgh Steelers with

1306
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, the Green Bay Packers with with Aaron Rodgers,

1307
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: and even the Patriots with Tom Brady. Although you know,

1308
01:10:55,200 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: even so Steelers were taken second round wide out, sixth

1309
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: round wide outs. Ben Roethlisberger was making them shine. I mean,

1310
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, they've got you know, Aaron Rodgers notoriously

1311
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: never had a first round wide receiver, Ben Roethlisberger. With

1312
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: all those guys he had, Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown, Plaxico Burros,

1313
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: Juju Smith, Schuster down. Yeah, they all they all played

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01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: extremely well because they had that quarterback. Now and all

1315
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: those teams, the Packers, the Bucks, the Patriots, the Steelers,

1316
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: they're not taking a guy in the top ten at

1317
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver because they got that quarterback. And it seems

1318
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: to be kind of one of those odd traits that

1319
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: these teams go, no, no, our guy will make that

1320
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: that guy's good enough for our you know, for our

1321
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: quarterback to make look good. Or if we have another

1322
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: guy like the ones we've got, we're gonna be deep enough,

1323
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: our matchups are gonna be what we want, and we

1324
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: can build a roster someplace else to help our team win.

1325
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: I think the fact that you get a lot of

1326
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 1: teams doing that when they've out these iconic quarterbacks like

1327
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 1: the Bills have, I think it says something about this.

1328
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: You know, that's how you do it, and that's how

1329
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: not only do you do it, that's how you do

1330
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: it and you stay competitive as long as that guy's

1331
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 1: taking snaps for you. On a very separate subject, there

1332
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: is a new reason to hate Tom Brady, as if

1333
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: we didn't have enough reasons to dislike Tom Brady. In

1334
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 1: one of his more recent social posts, he addressed his

1335
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: play in the two thousand and one playoffs, which was

1336
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: in route to the team's first Super Bowl, the divisional

1337
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: playoff against the Raiders in the snow in Foxborough, where

1338
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: the tuck rule became a major bone of contention as

1339
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: the play looked like a fumble. So this is Tom

1340
01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: Brady's latest post to make you hate him even more,

1341
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: tell me something honest against the readers. So Tom Brady

1342
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: basically has some kid with a towel at the pool,

1343
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: say new trend alert, Tell me something. Honest, he goes

1344
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: with the tuck rule game, it might have been a fumble.

1345
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a time where you just want

1346
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: to slap him upside the head more? I mean, honest

1347
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 1: to God, Steve, there's a lot of things that Tom

1348
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: Brady's done that makes me want to just punch him

1349
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: in the teeth. Um. And I know I've talked to

1350
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly about this, and I know I've talked to

1351
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: you about this because you guys have met him. He's

1352
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: a great guy. I'm sure he's great, But why does

1353
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: he have to go this? I mean, really, dude, your

1354
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 1: legacy is set. You're a seven time super Bowl champion,

1355
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 1: even though there's probably some New England cheating somewhere along

1356
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: the way that will be uncovered after we're all dead. Um,

1357
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 1: do you have to go on social media and just

1358
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: be a dirt bag? Come on? What are we doing here?

1359
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: Honest to god? Oh my god, Brownie, come on, he's

1360
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah, he's the jack wagon that you just

1361
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: want to kick in the teeth. They you're already fortunate

1362
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: to have had the officials rule that way on that play.

1363
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: Go ask people in Oakland how they feel about that.

1364
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: He's try to rub people's noses in it. Twenty years later,

1365
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 1: what does the statute of limitations run out? He can

1366
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: say that, Okay, go jump in a lake, man, Come

1367
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: on with that. Not funny at all. That doesn't bother me.

1368
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 1: I'm unfazed by that. Yeah, well, you're a better person

1369
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: than me. He is a jack wagon with a capital jay.

1370
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: What a gun. It's amazing to me what random thing

1371
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 1: gets really under your skins because it's him, though, Dude,

1372
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 1: your legacy is set, You've won seven Super Bowls, and

1373
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: suddenly he feels like he's got to be more relevant

1374
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 1: on social media. So let me here's something funny. Let's

1375
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: try this. Uh, get the hell out of here with that.

1376
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: Come on, unbelievable. Just go away. We all just want

1377
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: you to go away, So go away. Please. Honestly, I

1378
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: can't deal with it. It's just if it's not one thing,

1379
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 1: it's another. You're already enough of an annoyance and a

1380
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: nuisance on the field. I don't need you to be

1381
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: a nuisance on my social media feed too. What are

1382
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 1: you gonna do if he retires after this season and

1383
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: comes back after this season and does it again, don't

1384
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: even just don't what if he switches teams and comes

1385
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: back and plays for somebody. I'm not even entertaining that

1386
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: thought right now. I'm already disappointed he's playing again this year,

1387
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: so I don't even need to think about him being

1388
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,759
Speaker 1: involved in any part of the twenty twenty three regular season.

1389
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: I hope his team goes five and twelve, two and fifteen,

1390
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: so he can so we can all stamp him a

1391
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 1: loser for once. Then he'll never leave, stamp the ultimate

1392
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: winner of he'll never leave if he goes out well.

1393
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: I hope that your prophecy that you often predict for

1394
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 1: people who can't let it go proves true for him,

1395
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: and that is that it never ends well for the

1396
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 1: great ones. I hope that happens in spectacular super nova

1397
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,959
Speaker 1: like fashion. Oh you hope he just like completely crumbled

1398
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: and just keeps playing until he can't even I want

1399
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: him to look like an eighty six year old from

1400
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,600
Speaker 1: week four to five, Like I want him throwing for

1401
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 1: four touchdowns in week four, comes out in week five

1402
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 1: and looks like he's an eighty six year old. You're talking,

1403
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 1: You're talking, Willie May's fallen down in the out. I

1404
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: want it to disappear in the span of a week,

1405
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, like the clock hits midnight and he just

1406
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: can't do it. He doesn't even look like a high

1407
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: school quarterback. Oh, nothing would be more enjoyable. Can't even

1408
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: describe it to you. All right, we gotta take a

1409
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: break here. When we come back, we will get your

1410
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 1: thoughts on the tweet sheet. I've said my piece, which

1411
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: veteran player on the Bill's roster will be pushed the

1412
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 1: most by the Bills draft choices and why. We'll get

1413
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the tweet sheet next here on One

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01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1415
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown,

1416
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you and got an open phone line

1417
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: for you at eight oh three five fifty. Which veteran

1418
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 1: player wably pushed the most by the Bills draft picks

1419
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: and why? And we'll get to the tweet sheet in

1420
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 1: just a second. But first we'll go to the phones

1421
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: where Tom in Jamestown is waiting. What do you have

1422
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: for us? Tom? Hey, guys, I go back aways from

1423
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 1: the sixties and met Bill Angyart. I don't know if

1424
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: you ever know him used to play for the Bills. No,

1425
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: go ahead, And uh, you guys are talking about the

1426
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: teams in Georgia having all that these pro players. I

1427
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: you guys, ever remember the Valley League that went down

1428
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: through here, Pine Valley and Cassadega. No, I'm not gonna

1429
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 1: pretend that I'm terribly familiar with it. I mean, I mean,

1430
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 1: I know Shane Conlins from Frewsburg and you know, stuff

1431
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: like that. But okay, but that's the same league. Yeah,

1432
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 1: and not only Shane and Dan Conlin, but you also

1433
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: had the Burgie brothers from Pine Valley, right, which were

1434
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: Bruce and Bill Bergie. And you had Jack Crooks who

1435
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: played there. And then you had George Carter from Silver

1436
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: Creek who would have who would have been in the NFL,

1437
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: but he was rafted by the brigind the Squires and

1438
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: you played basketball. Yeah, I mean every Yeah, So I'd

1439
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 1: go back a long way with these guys. Or when

1440
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: we're recording those teams, are you know we're talking about

1441
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 1: the teams from mad Georgia. Yeah? I think so, yeah,

1442
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: Tom that the point is, yeah, you gotta go back

1443
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: a long way, right, And I mean I know you're

1444
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: talking about one year coming out of the state of Georgia.

1445
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 1: The guys got drafted. Twenty nine guys from drafted this year.

1446
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 1: Those twenty nine guys have been drafted in the last

1447
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: twenty five years from the state of New York. We

1448
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 1: usually have one or two guys every year from the

1449
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 1: state of New York get drafted. They're very few and

1450
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 1: far between. And the only kid to get drafted out

1451
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: of the state of New York this year was the

1452
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 1: Ohio state tight end, Jeremy Ruckert, who's from Lyndenhurst on

1453
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 1: Long Island, and he got drafted by the Jets, and

1454
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: his parents are Jets fans, so that's pretty cool. But

1455
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,799
Speaker 1: the point is twenty nine guys drafted out of Georgia,

1456
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: thirty three out of the state of Texas, twenty four

1457
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: out of the state of California, one out of New

1458
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 1: York state, I mean even New Jersey and four guys

1459
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 1: we're talking about we're talking about one year. It's just

1460
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 1: not a football producing state. And the guys, you know,

1461
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: all those guys you mentioned down there in that that's

1462
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 1: all well and good, but that's over the course of

1463
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 1: forty years, so you get the idea. The points still

1464
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 1: there there are some places, some regions in the country

1465
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 1: that churn these guys out like it's their job. Yeah.

1466
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean it's like they're coming right off a conveyor belt, right, So,

1467
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 1: I mean they'll do it again next year. Georgia. And

1468
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you don't cheer for your guys. I

1469
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 1: mean it's great to see and make it. We're just

1470
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: making a point that if you're from Georgia, you you

1471
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: probably have seen a handful of these high school If

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Speaker 1: you're a high school football fan in Georgia, you've probably

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Speaker 1: seen a handful of these guys this year play within

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Speaker 1: the last four or five years that are getting drafted.

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Speaker 1: You probably saw him play against each other. Yeah, as

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Speaker 1: as prep kids. So that's that's kind of interesting. So

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Speaker 1: but your point is well taken. There's there's people guys

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Speaker 1: from all over. I mean the town I came from

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01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 1: have one stop light, yeah, and now it's a blinking light.

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Speaker 1: So uh and yeah, that I'm, to my knowledge on

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Speaker 1: the only professional athlete to come out of that place.

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Speaker 1: So there, and there's another one, Nolan Cromwell, the Ransom

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Speaker 1: Ramp a Ransom, Kansas. His town smaller than my town. Wow,

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Speaker 1: And he played for the Rams and played quarterback for

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Speaker 1: Kent University of Kansas. And you know he's legendary, but

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Speaker 1: that's fifty years ago. I mean, Butch Bird's from Governor,

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Speaker 1: New York, so he's a New York native that played here.

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01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: Corey Graham, who's from Buffalo, finished up his career at

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Speaker 1: safety here in Buffalo on directs Ryan and Doug Morone.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, you can always find guys. The point

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Speaker 1: is New York State can just not match the volume

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Speaker 1: of players that are churned out by Florida, Texas, California,

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Speaker 1: and Georgia. They you just can't do it. There's just

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Speaker 1: the supply is just not there. It's just cold hard facts.

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Speaker 1: All right. To the tweet sheet, we go, Which veteran

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Speaker 1: player will be pushed the most by the Bill's draft

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Speaker 1: picks and why? Tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan

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Speaker 1: Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Christopher says, I'm going to say Marquez Stevenson will be

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01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: pushed the most by Shakier. Both have similar size and speed,

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01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: but Elam and Jackson should be a fun camp battle

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01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: to watch two and I wouldn't rule out Moss versus Cook.

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01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 1: What do you think of those three? It's good, It's

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Speaker 1: really good. I didn't thought. I hadn't thought about Stevenson

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Speaker 1: being pushed by Shakier and Shakier being a return guy.

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01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,759
Speaker 1: He's got that kind of skill set. He's really versatile.

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01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: And as we talk about when you start getting into

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01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: training camp and how this roster is going to be composed,

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01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: roster spots are really really valuable, particularly on game day,

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01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: and you need somebody in there. The more guys you

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01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 1: have to do more things on game day and do

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01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: them at a high level, the better off you are,

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01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: the more games you're gonna win. It's just that simple.

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01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: So a guy like Shakier, who theoretically could be slot guy,

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01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 1: slot receiver, gadget guy, forth wide out back up to

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01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 1: everybody and then return kicks as well, it's a pretty

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01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:56,560
Speaker 1: valuable asset. Yeah, Matt. On the tweet, Chet says, I

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Speaker 1: think the guys competing against Elam, like Triay and tarn Johnson.

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01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 1: Tarn Johnson's pretty much got Nickel locked up, and I

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01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 1: don't see that changing anytime soon. Elam, as Brandon Bean

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01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: told us after the draft, is going to start on

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01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: the outside and compete out there. I think, all things

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01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 1: being equal, Steve, if Tredavious White is healthy and good

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01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: to go, he CB one, So then it becomes Elam

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01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: versus Jackson, right for the other corner spot. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean that's essentially the competition we'd be looking at. Elam

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01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 1: isn't in competition with Taron Johnson so to speak. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he says the guy's competing against Elam, like Tredavius and

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01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: tarn It, those guys aren't really competing against each other.

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01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: Certainly Trey and Elam might be Trey White and they

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01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: might be, but basically it's guys competing for two spots

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01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 1: or three spots. The best three get to play. And

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Speaker 1: right now, those three guys you're listing there are the

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01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 1: three best. So they're really not competing against each other,

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01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 1: right Well, and you could argue that the only person

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01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 1: Tredeve White's going to be competing against his himself and

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01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: getting himself ready for the regular season. All he's got

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01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,759
Speaker 1: to do is get ready and he's in the starting lineup.

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01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. And so yeah, I from Matt,

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01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 1: Matt seems to me, seems to I mean, you're missing

1541
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: there are three other names in there that are competing

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Speaker 1: with each one of those guys you mentioned that are

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01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: competing against each other that which I don't think they

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01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: are so Jack on the tweet sheet says Dane Jackson.

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01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: If Trey is healthy and good to go, Jackson is

1546
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: the in the unenviable position of having to hold off

1547
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 1: a highly tauted first rounder. But it's mood. If Trey

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Speaker 1: isn't ready Beyond that, Moss and Duke Johnson will get

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01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: pushed for play and maybe roster spots by Cook. Cook

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01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 1: and Duke Johnson have similar skill sets here, and I

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01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 1: would argue that Cook is considerably faster than well, maybe

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01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 1: not considerably, but will bit quicker than Duke. Duke s

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01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 1: got the gift of experience, and he's been on a

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01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 1: couple of different teams, so he knows what it is

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01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 1: to be there. And guys like Duke Johnson are hard

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01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 1: to get rid of their old They always have a

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01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 1: place to play because of the way they carry themselves,

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01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: the way they do to go about their business. Moss

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01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: is probably gonna learn some things from Duke Johnson, as

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Speaker 1: will James Cook. I'm Duke Johnson's a survivor and that

1561
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: is you know, I've told you this a bunch. The thing,

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Speaker 1: the holy grail for most players has longevity. Duke Johnson

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01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 1: is a wizard at that. He's still playing, yeah, six

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Speaker 1: years in twenty eight years old. So there it is.

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Speaker 1: Kenny on the tweet, Cheet says Tyrrell Dodson and Jay

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Speaker 1: Kumero Dodson could be in a dogfight with Terrell Bernard. Yeah,

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01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: and then from there there's a trickle down effect to

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01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 1: the special team linebackers like Tyler Matacavic and Andre Smith.

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01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's that'll be interesting. Kumar the

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01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: same way. If one of these guys can cover kicks,

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01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 1: Kumro is gonna have to make himself valuable as a

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Speaker 1: wide out. Now certainly he's you know, he's take and

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01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: reps at wide out. When they go six wideouts, Kumar

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01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 1: always gets a handful of snaps because he blocks so

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01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 1: well in the run game, a little predictable when he's

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01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: in the game, he kind of think, Okay, here's they're

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01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: gonna run it off that side there, But yeah, he's

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01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: that's a good one. Because you don't necessarily replace players

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01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: on the field. The players that you replace don't necessarily

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01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: leave the team. They're still there waiting to play and

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01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 1: wanting to play. It's the guys behind all of them

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01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: that get replaced, and that would be guys like Dotson

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01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: and Kumaro. So yeah, that's true. We have to take

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Speaker 1: a break here when we come back. As we know,

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01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos are up for sale. It will be

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01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 1: sold by their current ownership group. If it's the late

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01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: Pat Bolan's family who has entered the bidding, there's a

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Speaker 1: pretty familiar name that we will pass along to you next.

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Speaker 1: You're on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: As we said before the break, the Denver Broncos are

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Speaker 1: essentially going to go up for sale here, and there

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Speaker 1: is a group that is putting together their finances to

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01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 1: submit a bid for the Denver Broncos. That's being led

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01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: by Philadelphia seventy six ers co owner Josh Harris. And

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01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 1: joining him in his bid effort to buy the Denver

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Speaker 1: Broncos is Irvin Magic Johnson. There you go. That's big.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see where they land on

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01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: this owner in terms of approval. Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: The commissioners made no secret about increasing the diversity of

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01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 1: NFL ownership. I mean, you basically have Shad Khan, who

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01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 1: I believe is Pakistani American, and then you have Kim Pagoula,

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01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 1: who's obviously Asian American, and I believe there's one more

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01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 1: owner in the league who is a minority. And I'm

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01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: trying to think, I'm running through my head. I should

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01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: have thought about The interesting part, Will is there's a

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01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 1: lot of levels to this. It'll be interesting to see

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01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 1: because I know this. You have to be preapproved to

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01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 1: get in the bidding process. Yes, So the ownership, there's

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01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: a list, there's an ongoing list that's sometimes as high

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Speaker 1: as twenty five groups and sometimes as low as ten

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01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,640
Speaker 1: people who are approved to buy an NFL club if

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01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 1: one comes up for sale, that's already been done. That's done,

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01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 1: and it's ongoing as we speak. But the interesting part

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01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 1: is going to be what would an iconic franchise in

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01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 1: a city the size of Denver go for it. They're

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Speaker 1: talking like five billion dollars. Is it that high? Yeah? Really, stadium,

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01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: all the stuff that goes with it. Do you think

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01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 1: it'll you don't think it'll go that high. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the bills went for one point four in twenty fourteen seven.

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01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 1: How do you go from that to five? That seems

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01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 1: higher to me. It does. I'll see you tomorrow one

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Speaker 1: with Maddie. Steve's off