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Speaker 1: breakingly continue to follow breaking news, kids, your wife? All right.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck says the rehab on his shoulder is going well,

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Speaker 1: called quote simple labor and repair. Where do you have

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Speaker 1: of Andrew Luck ranked Alex Gelhar and does the news

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Speaker 1: concern you? I had him at I think of my

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Speaker 1: Alex Gilhar did a great rite up on this as well.

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Speaker 1: in one of our last max too. Uh. We did PPR.

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Speaker 1: Brock Off Weiler when was the quarterback? Oh got it,

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Speaker 1: forgot forgot about him. He didn't make any ways at all.

428
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Speaker 1: We didn't talk about him at all. Not a storyline

429
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Speaker 1: to talk about it now. Actually, uh, DeAndre Hopkins new

430
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Speaker 1: suffered as a result in real life and in fantasy.

431
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Speaker 1: Does he bounce back enough this year? Look, we we

432
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Speaker 1: we know he's going to bounce back somewhat, but does

433
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Speaker 1: he bounce back enough this year to justify a top

434
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Speaker 1: thirty price tag? I'm concerned about him at his current

435
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Speaker 1: price tag because he's being drafted as like the wide

436
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Speaker 1: receiver anywhere from like what twelve to fifteen or so

437
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Speaker 1: on average, a top thirty, top overall pick. Oh he

438
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Speaker 1: does you know, like first three so rounds, which is

439
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: where he's going, even at that wide receiver twelve or

440
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Speaker 1: fifteen evaluation. But like you know, even if we go

441
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Speaker 1: back to his first kind of breakout year, we had

442
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: like twelve yards and six touchdowns. His targets didn't didn't

443
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Speaker 1: fall off too much um from his huge year in sixteen,

444
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Speaker 1: but it was his efficiency in getting in the end zone,

445
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Speaker 1: you know, his touchdowns fell down to I think four

446
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Speaker 1: from eleven and uh two years ago, and I think

447
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: he could bounce back and have oh great overall season,

448
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Speaker 1: you know, like eleven yards, six touchdowns or something like

449
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Speaker 1: that again, but that slides him more into like a

450
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Speaker 1: wide receiver twenty ish overall finish. And he's being drafted

451
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: at his ceiling right now, and I think that's a

452
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,239
Speaker 1: little unrealistic considering either Tom Savage or a rookie's going

453
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Speaker 1: to be in there. I'd rather and I'm just not

454
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Speaker 1: gonna probably get him, but I'd rather wait a round

455
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: or two and get him at I feel what's a

456
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 1: more appropriate evaluation for his range of outcomes. Fourth or so. Yeah,

457
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 1: he's not going He's not going there. But I think

458
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 1: people are chasing that ceiling too much and will feel

459
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Speaker 1: burned even if he produces a solid season because they

460
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Speaker 1: sunk a high draft pick in him. Yeah, I'm kind

461
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: of all in on him, all in. I love him.

462
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Speaker 1: I mean, I so here here's the kind of this

463
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Speaker 1: is how I this is my broad strokes math on it. Right.

464
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Speaker 1: So you have someone who is one of the most

465
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Speaker 1: efficient route runners in the NFL, and harmon, where's her?

466
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Speaker 1: But he definitely will He'll say that, and you know

467
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Speaker 1: what you had when you saw any quarterback that he

468
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Speaker 1: could have, right, Like, efficiency would be great. Like the

469
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Speaker 1: the knock that we saw on his rookie quarterback was

470
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Speaker 1: that when he was throwing passes, he threw a lot

471
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Speaker 1: of um, he threw a lot of picks whatever. And

472
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Speaker 1: they cleans and they put more of like a jump

473
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Speaker 1: ball style. And so if that rookie can adapt, right Like,

474
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Speaker 1: I don't want to like make projections and prognostications about

475
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Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks because that's a really hard thing to do,

476
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Speaker 1: but I will say that if you are an incredibly

477
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Speaker 1: efficient route runner, you tend to have, you know, with

478
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Speaker 1: a different changing quarterback, it's likely that you're the one

479
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Speaker 1: that gets the most targets. Do I think it's the

480
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Speaker 1: same kind of crazy targets he got like the year

481
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Speaker 1: he had four different quarterbacks. No, but I do think that,

482
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Speaker 1: you know, I think he's worth I'm I'm in. I

483
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Speaker 1: don't think he's going I do think it is closer

484
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Speaker 1: to his ceiling, but I think that's where we're going

485
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: to see him before because I think he he didn't

486
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Speaker 1: seem very happy last year. So I think I think

487
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Speaker 1: it's going to be something that how could you not

488
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Speaker 1: be happy watching balls go straight into the dirt. I believe,

489
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Speaker 1: I believe he can hit that ceiling, even with this

490
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Speaker 1: missmash of quarter backs he has, because I mean, it

491
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Speaker 1: be hard to be much worse than Brock was last year.

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Speaker 1: But I just I just think in terms of other

493
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Speaker 1: players in that range, I'd rather feel somebody who I

494
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Speaker 1: think is in a safer zone for the range of

495
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Speaker 1: outcomes and try and catch Nuke a little later. But

496
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Speaker 1: I understand I'll probably miss out on him. Can he

497
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Speaker 1: or Deshaun Kaiser figure out who's going to be the

498
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Speaker 1: Deshaun because there's just too many Deshaun's right now For me,

499
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Speaker 1: I'm like DeShawn Kaiser, Sir Watson Foster. See, I like,

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Speaker 1: I don't even like Foster, even Watson. I just I

501
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Speaker 1: hate to like put that on a rookie though, Like

502
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Speaker 1: so to me, it's like I won't say who because

503
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Speaker 1: I'm like Savage or him, but because I think both

504
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Speaker 1: of them would they benefit from a really consistent round runner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Will Fuller's a burner and he's gonna get down the

506
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Speaker 1: field faster. But you want someone to be consistent, Like

507
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Speaker 1: if you're practicing and you you can throw it to

508
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Speaker 1: this area and that person is always open and create separation.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm throwing too. If I'm Tom Savage or

510
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Speaker 1: if I'm Deshaun Watson Kaiser or so say I like it.

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Speaker 1: On Famtasy football calculator, DeAndre Hopkins right now is going

512
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Speaker 1: at twenty seven overall, one pick behind Brandon Cooks. I'll

513
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Speaker 1: tell you what, if I had my choice between the two,

514
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Speaker 1: I would take new Copkins the Titans at nine, and

515
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Speaker 1: so excuse me, we're gonna stay with the Texas. Lamar Miller.

516
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Speaker 1: I want to ask about Lamar Miller because you know,

517
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Speaker 1: the Famtasy community was hyper about Lamar Miller last year.

518
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: I felt like he was a big time disappointment. Now

519
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: there's even more question marks, especially but his touchdown upside

520
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Speaker 1: given the Dante Foreman is sitting right there behind him.

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Speaker 1: Alex gillho your thoughts on one more. I mean, the

522
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Speaker 1: reason everybody was so hyped last year was Becau because

523
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Speaker 1: uh we felt he was only getting partially the partial

524
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Speaker 1: workload in Miami and he was producing a lot, so thinking, wow,

525
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Speaker 1: it goes to a decent offense. Gets the wealth of

526
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Speaker 1: touches could hopefully turn into points. Yeah, volume, and it

527
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: kind of it kind of pointed the opposite way. He

528
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Speaker 1: posted his lowest yards per carrying yards perception totals of

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Speaker 1: the last three years. But the crazy thing was he

530
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Speaker 1: saw more total touches, but he didn't see a bigger

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Speaker 1: share of the pie. He saw sixty, just shy of

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Speaker 1: sixty two percent of the opportunities touches and targets out

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Speaker 1: of the Houston backfield. Uh, he saw sixty and he

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Speaker 1: saw sixty, So it was right in that range. He

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Speaker 1: had more total touches by about fifty or so over

536
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. But yeah, I think the warrant,

537
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Speaker 1: the concerns about his touchdown upside are are warranted because

538
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Speaker 1: now they're just more threats when they get near the

539
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Speaker 1: red zone. They have the big bruising back in form

540
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Speaker 1: and as you mentioned, c J. F. Doorwood's kind of

541
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Speaker 1: established himself as a decent red zone threat last year.

542
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Speaker 1: And of course new Copkins is great in the red

543
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Speaker 1: zone and on the boundary. So this is also a

544
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Speaker 1: team that ight not project to be the highest scoring offense.

545
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Speaker 1: They might They've got a great defense, they'll probably want

546
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: to play more clock control. They're not going to be

547
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: dropping forty points on people regularly. So if that if

548
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Speaker 1: his chunk of the scoring pie stays low, and what

549
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: do you have six touchdowns last year total? Or he

550
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Speaker 1: only gets five or so, is their serious concerns about that?

551
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: For him? I'm a coaching tree person, so I couldn't

552
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: agree with you more. But which coaching tree does he

553
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: come from? Bill Belichick? What does Bill Belichick do? He

554
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: does not tell you what's running back that he likes

555
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Speaker 1: the best, and he does not tell you which running

556
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Speaker 1: back is going to get the touchdowns, and he does

557
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Speaker 1: not give you any clue to me. I think the

558
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: ideal situation for Deshaun Watson, Tom Savage, Bill O'Brien, the

559
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: whole offense is to have a wealth of people who

560
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: could be ball career. So for us fantasy players, that stinks.

561
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Speaker 1: But I think that you're going to see that Belichick

562
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: and I think they're at least trying to construct that

563
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Speaker 1: sort of running back by committee. But we don't know

564
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Speaker 1: the committee. And if you fumble, then you're out for

565
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: like you know, you're punished your bad corner. Lamar Miller

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Speaker 1: on Famtasy Football Calculator a top twenty five pick at

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Speaker 1: that price tag. I will pass pass the Titans at

568
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: nine and seven last year, also at nine and seven,

569
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Speaker 1: but they were due to tidebreakers. Second in the division

570
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: and DeMarco Murray was a monster last year, man huge

571
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: draft day bargain. Following a torturous campaign in twenty sixteen,

572
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray bounced back in a big time way. Twelve

573
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: eighty seven, rushing three seventy seven, receiving twelve total touchdowns

574
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Speaker 1: to go along with four point four yards percary per carry.

575
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: He was absolutely to terrific. Was like a league winning

576
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: pick considering where he was going in drafts exact of

577
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: the time the season was starting. Just an absolute beast

578
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: last year, and what a crazy bounce back year it

579
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Speaker 1: was for DeMarco Murray. Does he keep that train rolling in?

580
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Speaker 1: I'm saying yes, if it's not broke, don't fix it.

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00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: I think that gives you a chance. Now. While I

582
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: do think Derrick Henry will get more touches and you'll

583
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: see more, I don't and do I think he's gonna

584
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: have a you know, over a plus fifteen hundred scrimmage

585
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: yard season, again, I don't know, but I still think

586
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: for the where you'd be drafting him in your leagues

587
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: in a very high in a very high position. I

588
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: think you're gonna get a lot of value out of him,

589
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: and you'll see Derrick Henry start to emerge and take,

590
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: you know, fill in wherever the he needs to be

591
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: filled in. But honestly, I don't see. If it's not broke,

592
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: don't fix it. You have you're on the cusp of

593
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: having a really great team, So go put that veteran

594
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: running back in their command. All those people get in

595
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Speaker 1: the box. You know, I think you tweeted out something

596
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: it was like they faced the most eight man boxes,

597
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: but it was like Derrick Henry's number one and which yeah,

598
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: like DeMarco Murray, Well great, give those guys on the

599
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: outside a chance that in the box. They both averaged

600
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: over four yards to carry against eight man boxes too.

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Speaker 1: And now that's this team went out and added Corey

602
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: Davis and Eric Decally, so let's go. Yeah. So I think, like,

603
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: keep the vet in, like Pepper in, you know, Derrick Henry,

604
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: allow him to you know, prolonged Derrick Henry's career by

605
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: not taking so many touches. I think it's I think

606
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: it's fantasy gold. Football Focus has the Tennessee offensive line

607
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: as one of the five best offensive lines in football

608
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Speaker 1: as well in Man Rounders Moving People last year. Man,

609
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell your quick story about their online coach.

610
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: It's just like one of his name is Russell Grim.

611
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: He's like one of my favorite people in all that's

612
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: a great name for it. And he's also just what

613
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: online for Washington in his career. He's just rat And

614
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: he's sitting there. You know, I have like I've been

615
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: doing like a big study on like waistbenders because I

616
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Speaker 1: don't want to try to talking about it on pipe. Yeah,

617
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: soon as I try to mesture their hips and if

618
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: they can back up and all these different things, and

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Speaker 1: you know online coaches really love analytics. No, so my goal,

620
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: my goal is to win him over. And he's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: he's like you better be watching my guys. He's like

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00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: Taylor Lala and like can He's sitting there and I'm

623
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: like I know, I know, I know. So he's he's

624
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Speaker 1: the best you ever gonna chance to watch him. He's

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Speaker 1: like the coolest man. I was gonna say about this split.

626
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: I think this is when we're gonna have to watch

627
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: the drumbeat. We always talk about what the coaches are saying.

628
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Speaker 1: A basically from the end of the season through now,

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Speaker 1: Mike Mularkey has been saying, to Marco Murray is our workhorse.

630
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: To Marco Murray, workhorse, not going to change that. We

631
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Speaker 1: love Derrick Henry, but to Marco Murray's a workhorse. The

632
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator just at the beginning of this month said,

633
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: and this is a very loose quote, but we said

634
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Speaker 1: we're gonna find ways to use both of them. That

635
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: was his quote. But he wasn't saying, like, Derrick Henry

636
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: is going to get, you know, twenty touches a game now.

637
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Henry had only a dree total touches last year.

638
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Speaker 1: I would guess he probably can get up towards like

639
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Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty or so. I would go probably

640
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: a little more than that, maybe a little more. But

641
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: still like for Derek, I think I'm with you. I

642
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: think to Marco Murray's worth his top you know, two

643
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: round pick. He's going to be a great player in

644
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: the standard or PPR. Derrick Henry right now is being

645
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: a little overvalue. People are taking little value. People are

646
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: taking him in the sixth round of Fantasy Calculator at all,

647
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: the sixth rounds end of the sixth round in MFL tens,

648
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: which I guess I get a little bit more because

649
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: it's best ball, and you know, if anything were to

650
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: happen to Marco Murray, there's no way league then I

651
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: I mean, and you start, you know, like in the

652
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: sound five or so, the trouble sinking that type of pick,

653
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: and do a player like Derrick Henry, Well, he's very good.

654
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: It's just he's not going to have the opportunities to

655
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: pay dividends on that pick potentially all season, maybe not

656
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: until later or if something happens to Murray. I'd be

657
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: more comfortable taking Derrick Henry maybe in the double digit round.

658
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you know, in a ten team standard,

659
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: because there is so much depth left on the waiver wire,

660
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: I don't mind sinking in earlier pick in somebody that

661
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: could be a very high value guy. So like, even

662
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: if it was a ninth round selection in Derrick Henry,

663
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 1: I'd be cool with that because again there's gonna be

664
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: there's not that many guys that could just be absolute

665
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: game changers that you're gonna get, but I mean that's

666
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: in that range. You could get somebody likes too much,

667
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: somebody like Paul Perkins. You could get somebody like Amir

668
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: of Dullah, Frank Gore, somebody that's more like. That's my

669
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: favorite one this year, my favorite six YEO, hold hold

670
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: where did you do? I would not be doing my

671
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: job if I didn't ask you follower you Now we're

672
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: talking about the NCY South here, but um what hold on,

673
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: let me hold on, let let me get let me

674
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: go into the month round tight end off the board.

675
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: Excuse me overall and a recent keep your mock. You

676
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: took Julius Thomas. You said you'd take him in the

677
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: sixth if you if you're gonna do, if you're gonna say, okay,

678
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: look I didn't draft. Obviously it's not your second tight end.

679
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm not advocating a two tight end system, right, But

680
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: if you're like, if you've gone you know, like like

681
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: me or sometimes I'm like, oh, I just drafted like

682
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: five wide receivers and I even draft like you know whatever,

683
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: You kind of find yourself in that spot and you're like,

684
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm going to like sneak something in

685
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: here that people might try to steal from me. I

686
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: know you could probably get him later, but to me,

687
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: that's actually if you're doing like a blind like you know,

688
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, I try to like game. You guys when

689
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: we play, like I'm learning, you want to stuff. I

690
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: don't want to be I don't want you to read me.

691
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm bad at lying from the Midwest. I like

692
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: you can read me too easy if I so. Point being,

693
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: I think that this is the Adam Gaze reunion in Miami.

694
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: You've got a quarterback who you know you want to

695
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: protect this quarterback. You've got a lot of things. You know,

696
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: you've got a really great slot receiver, and you're running game.

697
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: You got j g I. But that was there was

698
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: some great games and then there was that's very bumpy road.

699
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: So Julius Thomas, this is a someone that's very reliable,

700
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: had a great necessarily a great year a couple of

701
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: years in a row here. But I think that they

702
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: didn't trade for him for nothing, right, Like, there's a

703
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: point there's a strategy there, especially since this is a

704
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: great tight end class. So they if they wanted to draft,

705
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, if they thought they could draft someone, They

706
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: could have done that. So I'm just saying, sneaky, put

707
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: it on your radar. Maybe six is high. Maybe we're

708
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: being a little whatever there, but honestly, you have him

709
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: just in terms of tight end rankings, you have him

710
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: as a top ten guy I do. He's not Gronk. Like,

711
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: let's be clear what range as he fallen? Would you

712
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: take Martellis Bennett or Julius Thomas, Marty b Tyler Effort

713
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: or Julius Thomas. Let's see effort so line really frightens

714
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: me or Julius Julius Thomas, Kyle Rudolph or Julius Thomas.

715
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: I think, but I try so you haven't probably around

716
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: that like tight end eight to twelve range. I think

717
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: he's so far off the table for most drafters then

718
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: I know, so maybe you can steak and get him later.

719
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: But so my point is maybe six is aggressive, but

720
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: honestly consider him and if you can try to, like

721
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: there's some gamesmanship there, but if you're not, if your

722
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: strategy doesn't include being able to get Greg Olsen Gronk

723
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: or one of the people who are gonna like are

724
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: actually wide receivers that you can put in as a

725
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: tight end, then this is a person that you could

726
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: slide into that tight end spot, especially in a PPR

727
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: because those little dinking dunks. I think that's going to

728
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: be a key part of Tannehill's game. Okay, there you go.

729
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: To see how compared to the rest of the the

730
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: gentleman on NFL dot Com, I think he's currently ranked

731
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: six and Marcus Grant has him the highest at thirteen,

732
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: and uh, fabrianal and Alex have him at seventeen. I

733
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: knew that Marcus was my favorite behind behind the likes

734
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: Abron Doyle Gates. There you go. All right, we'll move

735
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: on to the Colts. Talk about We talked about Andrew Luck,

736
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: we talked about t Y Hilton. Let's talk about their

737
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: running game. Frank Gore, at the age of thirty two

738
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: last year, still carried the ball two hundred and sixty

739
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: three times. It's the fourth most carries in a season

740
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: in his career. Man. That was at thirty two years old.

741
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: He had ten twenty five on the ground to seventy

742
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: seven through the air. It was his eleven consecutive season

743
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: he has had twelve hundred or more total scrimmage yards.

744
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: That to go along with eight total touchdowns. Oh my goodness,

745
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: this guy was the RB twelve. He is the terminator.

746
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: He is absolutely the terminator. But what do we do

747
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: in We've been having this conversation for five years in

748
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: a row, but what do you do with d core

749
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: in seen Alex gillhar I mean, I think you still

750
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: have to believe in the guy. I'm past the point

751
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: of doubting Frank Gore when he hangs them up officially

752
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: as done producing in the league. But it's not not

753
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: to say you go and jump at him in like

754
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: the fourth round or something. You want to wait a

755
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: little bit, mitigate that risk of of his age and

756
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: uh increasingly crowded backfield now because they brought in Robert

757
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: Turban last year, they re signed him. The GM really

758
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: likes him. Marlin drafted Marlon mack so I think I

759
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: think he's one of those great guys if you start

760
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: wide receiver heavy in your drafts to look to Frank

761
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: or because you're getting a lead pretty much workhorse back

762
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: in rounds five to eight anywhere in there. Totally unspectacular,

763
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: but just slid. This is a rock man. It's just

764
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: been unbelievable. Your take on Frere I agree, he's one

765
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: of those people who has This year, I'm I'm kind

766
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: of all in on the Colts offense getting better because

767
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: their defense got better, right because you know, you're bringing

768
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: in someone who could potentially increase their number of turnovers

769
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: so they get more and you know, they think they

770
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 1: were number twenty. They had the twentie starting starting field

771
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: position on average and very few turnovers Like these are

772
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: things that when you have running backs on teams that

773
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: that could jump his touchdown total because if they're getting

774
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: those like wonky turnover oh or at the like you know,

775
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: starting this, you know, some good yard line right then

776
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: then that's a bet like that's touchdowns are fickle, I

777
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: get it, But that kind of improvement could say, could

778
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: lead me to believe that he'd have an increase in time.

779
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything to any reason to believe

780
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: his production in terms of, you know, number of total

781
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: yards is going to significantly go down. I don't. I

782
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: don't see that happening unless it gets hurt, God forbid.

783
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: But you know he could have some sneaky touchdown upside

784
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: all right, question for the panel, Frank Gore does rushing

785
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: yards this year? Eleven Hunter rushing. I wouldn't say eleven

786
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: hunter rushing, but so it would be total. If he

787
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: gets question, he has six hundred yards away of becoming

788
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: fifth all time rushing, and he's eleven hundred of passing

789
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: Curtis Martin, and he'd be fourth all time. So I'm saying,

790
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: if he gets gored yards, he would be fourth all

791
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: time and rushing. That's amazing. That'd be awesome. Maybe that's

792
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: the thing I just guess. I just thought he already

793
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: was like top. He's eight right now, two behind Dickerson.

794
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: He's six hundred behind Bettus, a little bit more behind

795
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: LTD Curtis Martin. In a game that has no longevity,

796
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: This dude has been an absolute. He helped me in

797
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: my first UM, like I do with my girlfriends. We

798
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: we we all played together and then we go out

799
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: and buy shoes together after that's how you say that

800
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: podcast and UM and when we do that. Then he

801
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: helped me win. He helped me win that league. And

802
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: my what year was this? It was a long time ago.

803
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: It was a really long time ago. Oh man, the

804
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: Jaguars were an embarrassment last year. They were three and

805
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: thirteen overall, the team out of Tom Coughlin, though, to

806
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: run football operations there in Jacksonville. Team then added L

807
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: four talking about Leonard Fournett in the draft, projections all

808
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: over the place on this guy, I would love to know,

809
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: Cynthia Freelance projection on the rookie. Ask me in the

810
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: end of August to refine this, But he's one that

811
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: I think it honestly that this is the one where

812
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: I don't know um for PPR because I don't know

813
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: how much they're going to use him in the run

814
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: or in the passing game. But I think that I

815
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: think you're gonna get a nice like I think it

816
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: might be like old school giants running back on the

817
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: ground pound that kind of like. I think that the

818
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: influence of Coughlin that could be something there. I don't

819
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: want to overstate his influence because I don't think he's

820
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: calling plays, but I do think, you know, I think

821
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: you could see that. I feel like, I feel like

822
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: that's what they want to do. It'd be smart, right,

823
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: So but if you so to me, it's like all ground.

824
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: So so for PPR, I'm a little bit less I'm

825
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: a little bit less on you know. And you even

826
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: saw that with Ezekiel Elliott last year, it is like

827
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: ground guard ground, then we add some pass like and

828
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: you kind of ramp up the passing. But that was

829
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: like rookie quarterback and rookie running back, so you know

830
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: that that could make a difference. But for me, it's

831
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: like ground really solid season, Like I let like something

832
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: like I don't know if I want to give him

833
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: a thousand yards, but I think close round nine hundred,

834
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: like right around there, but not much in the passing.

835
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: So if you're PPR beware, but total yardage wise, you

836
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: would say is about right total, So two through the well,

837
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: that's the thing, like you were hinting at it, Cynthia.

838
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: It's hard to know right now. There's been talk out

839
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: of camp that they're like, oh, he's a great pass catcher,

840
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: like we want to use him there. But in the

841
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: same token, they still have tg Yelden and the average

842
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: is fifty seven targets over the past two years for

843
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: his career, like and if they want to be multiple

844
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: and half him in and spell for net so he's

845
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: good there makes sense to take him off the field

846
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: every now and again in those passing ses. I just

847
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: don't know if I agree. I don't know if he's

848
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: gonna get enough of volume like snaps to be able

849
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: to We didn't see a lot. We didn't see a

850
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: lot of running backs catch balls out of the backfield

851
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: in that less mile system. But you know, the few

852
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: passes that he did see there, I thought he looked

853
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: pretty darned smooth actually catching the football. So we have

854
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: to remember though, that there's like a lot of like

855
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: who do who do they play? And who would be

856
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: hitting him? Right? Who are the like who are the

857
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: nose tackles are coming out for him? So this is

858
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: a little different than you know, the mad hatters like right, yes,

859
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: he can catch it. It's but I just to me,

860
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: it's a little especially as a rookie's that's not what

861
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: I would count on. It would be like a nice surprise,

862
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: but not I think, Uh, I know you put in

863
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: the rundown James. Why some people are the fantas community

864
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: hates little down on him? Well, I don't think they

865
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: hate him. Oh my god, come on, bro, where have

866
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: you been seeing all this hate? Like I mean, it

867
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: is a it's amazing how much like nitpicky stuff people

868
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: right about lend for net and they'll totally I compare

869
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette to Christian McCaffrey, and the press that surrounds

870
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette and the press that surrounds Christian mccaffe it is,

871
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: it's it's it's ridiculous to me. I mean, both of

872
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: these guys have holes in their games, and that's fine,

873
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: and I love both of them as prospects. I absolutely

874
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: love both. But it's hard to find positive press surrounding

875
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette's game, and it's really hard to find negative

876
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: press surrounding Christian McCaffrey's game. Well, I think I think

877
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: what it is partially too, is it, at least for fantasy,

878
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: is it comes down to their situations, Like there are

879
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: red flag land mines all over the place. With Leonard Fournette,

880
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: Let's start with Blake Bortles still the quarterback. They brought

881
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: in Bartles and Coughlin they want are they brought in

882
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 1: you know, Kauflin and Fournette. They want Bortles to throw less.

883
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: Bortles still leads the league in turnover since with sixty three.

884
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: I was looking at this because like you're talking at

885
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: this earlier about how when um you get you get turnovers?

886
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: You know, gives that out your offense and a chance

887
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: to score. But by the same token, when your offense

888
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: commits a ton of turnovers, it takes away scoring opportunities.

889
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: And over the last five years, teams in the bottom

890
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: ten in turnover percentage score on average just rushing touchdowns

891
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: for a fewer rushing touchdowns than teams ahead of that.

892
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: The Jags have been in the bottom ten in the

893
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: last two years. They just missed it. They were twenty one.

894
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: That's because Borders only played fourteen games and committed twenty

895
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: two turnovers in those four fourteen games, So that huge

896
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: red flag. Thank you ALREADYSTA the passing game. McCaffrey is

897
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: going to get work in the passing game. That's why

898
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: they drafted him already talking about that. He's playing with

899
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. He's playing in an objectively better offense with

900
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: probably still a better defense. I really like the Jags

901
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: defense and the piece they put it put in it.

902
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: Let's see that unit played together for a full year

903
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: and dominate people. So I think that's why there's the

904
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: discrepancy in their games. There are there are holes in

905
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: their personal games. But from fantasy, we're looking at the

906
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: situation and where they're going for net is also almost

907
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: unanimously going ahead of McCaffrey. So that's why those red

908
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: flags become a little more Because I was about to say,

909
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: I think it often has to do with your expectations.

910
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: So if you're expecting, like from McCaffrey, you're expecting shared.

911
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: You know, nobody's thinking like he's it. He's not like

912
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: a d percent snaps. He's gonna be on the field

913
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: for you know. So it's I think that the expectation

914
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: there is very different. Is for net Worth a top

915
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: top twenty PPR now right right on the edge PPR

916
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: standard PPR PR now. And I was in Miami with

917
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: one new V shows. Well it was a couple of

918
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 1: minutes from them. There you go had to get that

919
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: that's the Jack last year. She was like a woman. Yeah,

920
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: that was a woman. She was like interviewed by a

921
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: local newscaster after they got she's super exciting and uh,

922
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: would they take Miles Jack? They the news reporter asked

923
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: her that the Jaguars won the draft, and she had

924
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: her faint now interview And I was in Miami with

925
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: one new V shows. Well it was a couple of

926
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: minutes she had the like, yeah, you can't have the

927
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: NFL has been holding the Jags back because you can't

928
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: have a newcomer come in and steal the show, like

929
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: the T shirt. Now Harmon has one, you don't have

930
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: to watch it later. It's great. It's about on that.

931
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, I'm gonna save this Allan Robinson piece

932
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: for if we can't get uh, if we can possibly

933
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: get Matt Harmon on farm up right now, let's dial

934
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: it up. Let's dial it up. We're gonna make a

935
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: call into the wild and we shall see if we

936
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: can find I don't know. We're gonna put the whole

937
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: like number on so people could start like we did that.

938
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: We did that once on accident, he said, on accident.

939
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: So I like on accident. Yeah, Hi, accident. Uh so yes,

940
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: we will say this Allen Robinson conversation for if we

941
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: can get Matt Harmon on the phone, whoa hello, But

942
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: we may not back there. We do have some uh

943
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: story was I we had called him and we thought

944
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: he was going to be around to answer, and then

945
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: we were just shooting the breeze while I was ringing

946
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: and then started going to call me back at and

947
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: was the first one to notice. So he just started

948
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: yelling and then I went I went back into the

949
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: audio and flipped up, that's funny. All right, well we're ringing.

950
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: We got like five digits into it. Yeah, it was

951
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: pretty good. Hello. Oh hey, it's our pal. What's up Harmon?

952
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: Hey man, how you doing? Pal? Matt Harmon? Who was

953
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: an idiot? It's always a good day to wake up

954
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: and be all right. We're welcome you into the NFL

955
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: Fantasy Life Podcast. It's been a minute since we had

956
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: you on the pod. We thought we'd we'd give you

957
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: a call here and get your take on some of

958
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 1: these a f C South UH wide receivers. Will start

959
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: with your boy there in Jacksonville, Allen Robinson. A bit

960
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: of a fantasy disappointment last year, Well, not a bit

961
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: a lot. Uh three through the air, just six touchdowns.

962
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: What does he do with Matt Harmon. I'm gonna just

963
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: bypass the fact that it's really rude that you're just

964
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: calling me up and right away get to business. No

965
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: pleasant trees. I apologize, I apologize, Yeah, apology accepted anyway,

966
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: So it was Alan Robinson. It's kind of hard to

967
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: tell yourself the story about how he's gonna get the

968
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: volume that we've seen the last two years. Considering what

969
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 1: Jacksonville has done in the off season. Obviously, they drafted

970
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: Leonard Tornett in the top five picks. Then they came

971
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: around in the second round and they snagged a big

972
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: offensive guard, not or a big potential tackle maybe guard,

973
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what, Cam Robinson. But so they obviously

974
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: want to be a different type of team. They don't

975
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: want to be losing all the time, where they threw

976
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: a lot more than then they probably have wanted to.

977
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I'm I still love Allen Robinson

978
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: the player, but for fantasy, I think he's probably more

979
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: of like a third round pick and maybe like a

980
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: high end wide receiver to low end wide receiver one

981
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: for fantasy. It's just not like it's not a situation

982
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: that I love as much as I have in the past.

983
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: All Right, let's talk about new Copkins. DeAndre Hopkins last

984
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: year obviously was very frustrated with the quarterback play. Matt Harmon.

985
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: I asked these two find folks in the room with

986
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: me if he bounces back in a big way, But

987
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: could I get a projection from you regarding Nuke. I'm

988
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: kind of like off Nuke Hopkins this year at his

989
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: current price, Like you you see him going off the

990
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: board on you know sites like Fantasy Pros or Fantasy

991
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: Football Calculator and their ADP right now, and he's like

992
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. He's like the wide receiver twelve. And

993
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: that feels to me. I don't know how you guys

994
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: feel in the room there, but like that feels to

995
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: me like you're buying him but his absolute best case scenario,

996
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: because if you look at the last two years, the

997
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: only time he's really been a high end wide receiver

998
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: one for fantasy has really only been in one set

999
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: of conditions, and that's when the Texans were at their

1000
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: worst as a team in the first half of the season.

1001
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: Their run play percentage dipped in the second half of

1002
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: the year when their defense got better and they started

1003
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: winning more games. Bill O'Brien has always ranked inside the

1004
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: top six in terms of run runs, run rushi attempts

1005
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So I don't really see them wanting

1006
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: to be a team that you know, funnels of their

1007
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: passing offense to new Copkins. And even if they do

1008
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: do that, it's probably not going to be the same

1009
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: amount of volume that we've seen the last few years, plus, Like,

1010
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: I know things are going to be better without brock Osweiler,

1011
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: at least we would assume, But how much better are

1012
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: they really with Tom Savage, who wasn't like a tangible

1013
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: upgrade as soon as he hit the field last year.

1014
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: I like de Shaun Watson enough as a prospect, but

1015
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: you know, he's still going to be a rookie, So

1016
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: I can easily see Hopkins finishing as like wide receiver

1017
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: nineteen or twenty and where he's going right now like that,

1018
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: I just can't justify ever making the pick there at

1019
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: that point. So I'm I'm pretty much like completely out

1020
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: on Hopkins as long as this price stays around wide

1021
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: receiver twelve. All right, let's go to Tennessee. Marcus Mariotta

1022
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: broke his leg late last year but is on track

1023
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: to start the season team out of Corey Davis in

1024
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: the draft. Eric Decker your favorite one of your favorite

1025
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: wide receivers in free agency? Meanwhile, one of james Least

1026
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 1: favorite players. Yeah, well, I was right in stupid, I know, right,

1027
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: Just stop it. Richard Matthews was your leading receiver last

1028
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: year in Tennessee, even there you know, current price tags.

1029
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: Who do you like there in Tennessee. Who's your favorite

1030
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: preferred wide receiver in the Titans wide receiver corps? So

1031
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: right now it's Decker just because he's still cheap, but

1032
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: I would expect him to probably creep up into like

1033
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: the top thirty five wide receivers picked by the time

1034
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: we're doing this in August, and at that point than

1035
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: I really I'm a little bit shyer on the price

1036
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: just because I love Decker the player. Again, but this

1037
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: is another volume situation where like how a Tennessee's offseason

1038
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: moves definitely seem to indicate that they want to open

1039
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: up the offense more. They have a really efficient quarterback,

1040
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: especially in the red zone. Decker has been one of

1041
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: the most efficient wide receivers in the league in the

1042
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: red zone. So it's a good pairing from that perspective,

1043
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: And I think that like on a week to week basis,

1044
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: we can kind of count on Decker as a as

1045
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: a touchdown threat. But outside of that, like I don't

1046
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of these guys are gonna

1047
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: get the volume to be like predictable week to week

1048
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: because they still have Delaney Walker, they drafted Corey Davis

1049
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: in the top five. We're start Matthews is kind of

1050
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: I think was gonna be a trap either way this

1051
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: year because because I don't think he's that great of

1052
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: a player, Like I think he's just fine. I think

1053
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: he's a guy, but not much more than that. So,

1054
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: like all these guys, I feel like they're going to

1055
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: be vulnerable week to week. Who's gonna like it might

1056
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: be more of just a week to week like guessing

1057
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: game with a matchup perspective in terms of who's going

1058
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: to have the week that week. So I I don't

1059
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: really want to feel good about drafting of these guys.

1060
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, Like I think I saw

1061
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: Mike Clay tweeted out his projections for these guys, and

1062
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: for Davis, Decker and Richard Matthews, it was all roughly

1063
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: in the like fifty to seventy catch like seven to

1064
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: eight hundred yard like five to seven touchdown games. Like

1065
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: the only time I'd probably want to actually start one

1066
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: of these guys is maybe in a game if they're

1067
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: gonna be it when something that's projected to be a

1068
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: really high scoring affair, like if they were hypothetically playing

1069
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: the Packers again like they did last year. Like that

1070
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: would be a game where I might start these guys.

1071
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: But otherwise, like Harmon's kind of right at their costs,

1072
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: I feel like it's going to be too unpredictable and

1073
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna be too frustrated to try and figure out

1074
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: when and where to start these guys. I think it

1075
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: certainly opens the door anyways for Marcus Mario to being

1076
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: a great value quarterback. You know, you talk about these

1077
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: individual wide receivers. Maybe individually, we don't know what they're

1078
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: gonna do, but I'll tell you what, as a collection,

1079
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: that's got to help the development of Marcus Mariota, hopefully

1080
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: he comes back from his broken leg at all. Right,

1081
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: enough with the the a f C South, Let's talk

1082
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: about a more important topic here. Let's talk about you man, Harmon.

1083
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: What's you got going on tow my favorite topic? Well,

1084
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: I just I just got back here to l A

1085
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: last night. I've been back home so which It's funny

1086
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: how it's hard to get motivated to do literally anything

1087
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: productive when you're in your childhood home. It's like, well,

1088
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: I cam to sit here and screw around. So in

1089
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: terms of what I've been doing the last twenty days,

1090
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: not so much anything that's like relevant to what listeners

1091
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: might care about unless they really like me that much,

1092
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: and that I would completely understand. But my god, Like,

1093
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: in terms of football stuff, I'm working on building some

1094
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: projections for this year actually, which is something I've never

1095
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: done before, so that's kind of exciting. And of course

1096
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: obviously just continuing to pimp Reception Perception and uh, if

1097
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: listeners are interested in more of my wide receiver analysis,

1098
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: you go to Reception perception dot com. You click on

1099
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: my little face there and you can buy access to

1100
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: all my data that I charted out this year. So

1101
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: it's pretty excited about that, continuing to get out there,

1102
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: and like it's not even it's not even it's not

1103
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: even July yet, so I'm really hoping that if the

1104
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: season goes on, or the preseason goes on, we get

1105
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: to more like take season, the demand for that will

1106
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: be pretty great. So I'm I'm excited. But in terms

1107
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: of what's going on with me, I don't know. Just

1108
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: to try to live my best life here, How's how's Charlie?

1109
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: How have you guys been? I'm sure did you guys

1110
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: see the video? Chief as chief Harley a videographer, and

1111
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: the house I I filmed it last night, but it

1112
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: was quite an adorable reunion. But how is how is

1113
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: the full day Ben Harmon with you guys hanging out again?

1114
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: It's been good to have them back, like there's some

1115
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: so obviously if I did not take Charlie back east

1116
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: on the trip, but for those who don't know, which

1117
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: was really hard for for me, but I think probably

1118
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: harder for him because reporting is it because he doesn't

1119
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: like West Virginia? Is that why? It's just because I'm

1120
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: gonna annore that because I could not imagine like possibly

1121
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: flying with him because he's a very anxious dog, and

1122
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: like I just don't done well with that. I don't know,

1123
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: I know, I know there are ways to do it,

1124
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: but I just maybe we'll explore down the line. But

1125
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: I gotta say it's nice having him back for for

1126
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: me at least, because there are just some things you

1127
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: like it used to having a dog around, Like you

1128
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: wake up in the middle of the night to like

1129
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom or something like I always put

1130
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: out my hand to like tell him to stay, and

1131
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: like I was doing that and be like, oh, there's

1132
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: nobody here or you know this, little little things like

1133
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 1: that you get used to and when the dog's not around,

1134
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: it's kind of do you realize a dog was seven

1135
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: times at the age one, the seven dog years for

1136
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: everyone human year or something like that. Yeah, that's so

1137
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: so each dog. Here's what fifty two days? Basically, you

1138
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: left your dog for half a year alone. WHOA? What

1139
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: a perspective. We said last probably took a year off

1140
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: his life for this this stress. Half a year dog

1141
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: for a half year. Now, that's anne sounds better, doesn't it.

1142
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: You deliver the number. I know you got a consult

1143
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: with me, alright, I got a consult NFL network Analytic Analytics.

1144
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: That first didn't be free. Yes, on how long you

1145
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: leave a dog alone? Half a year? What a? What a?

1146
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: What an idiot? I am? All right? Should we let

1147
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: him go and get back to Charlie? All right? We're

1148
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: the great Matt Harmon. Find his work at Reception perception

1149
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: dot com. He is one half of the Fantasy Hipsters

1150
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: as well. Matt. We appreciate your time, man, I think

1151
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: we already we already hung up on him. So that's all.

1152
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: But he'll he'll listen to the podcast. No doubt, no doubt,

1153
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: we will it. Matt Harmon, tell listen the podcast day.

1154
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: All right, we'll close out your show with a round

1155
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: of daily depths Depth. All right, daily tap time. We

1156
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: shall start with the wikid fil Wisconsin. Two depths. First one.

1157
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: Over the weekend, I saw The Big Sick. It was

1158
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: in a Livid release New York in l A. It's

1159
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: produced by jud Apatow, directed by Michael show Walter, starring Kumalew,

1160
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: Johnny and Zoe Kazan, And it's based on Kumil's real

1161
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: life with his wife. Actually because while they were well,

1162
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: they're like, well they were dating, she came down with

1163
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: some incredibly rare illness and had to be put into

1164
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: a medically induced coma for months. Uh So that's kind

1165
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: of the center of the story is young Pakistani guy

1166
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: and his white girl are dating and she gets put

1167
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: in this comma and it kind of thrust him in

1168
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: with her family and stuff like that. Amazing movie. It's

1169
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: super funny, super heartfelt, super touching. Honestly, can't recommend it highly.

1170
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: It was phenomenal. I think of it again, The Big Sick,

1171
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: The Big Sick. I've seen the I've seen the commercials

1172
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: for just so. I think it's opening wide soon, um

1173
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: so keep an eye out for it when it comes

1174
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 1: to your theater. But go check it out. It's super funny. It's,

1175
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: like I said, it's got a great heart to it,

1176
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: and it's not like it's still hilarious without being like

1177
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: super raunchy like those other town movies that the hit

1178
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: for a while with, like super Bad and uh uh,

1179
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: what's someone I'm forgetting knocked up and stuff like that.

1180
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: It's just it's really great. So I can't recommend highly enough.

1181
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: Second thing much dumber. One of the stupidest things I

1182
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: think I've ever watched in my life. But I was

1183
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: like cry laughing last night at midnight in the streets

1184
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: of Westwood as I was walking Charlie because I stumbled

1185
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: upon this video. Is a guy that used to do

1186
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: it on Vine and it was called pronouncing things Incorrectly.

1187
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: He would do the six second Vine of just him

1188
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: like with like brands or fruits or you know, cereals

1189
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: or random stung for stores, and he would just horribly

1190
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: mispronounce them. And it's just like he'll do like five

1191
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: or six women things just bam bam bam bam, Bam.

1192
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: It's so dumb, but it's hilarious. There's a compilation video

1193
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: on YouTube, and I think people must have thought I

1194
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: was psychotic as it was just walking through the streets

1195
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: like scream laughing with Charlie. So just things incorrectly on

1196
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: YouTube and you will not be disappointed. I like it.

1197
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: Cynthia Freeland. Do we have daily dapts from you, ma'am?

1198
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: We do. We have to. So, um, it's summer, and

1199
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: you know how like when we were little, you have

1200
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: to like read books in the summer and you get

1201
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: like stickers and stuff. So I've been like consuming books

1202
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: like a maniac. Like I'm like, it's three a week.

1203
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I'm jealous of I know it's good. So

1204
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: I just read read this really good data science book. Yep,

1205
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: I said it, but it's actually like it's something that

1206
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: I think I read a great data science book. No,

1207
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: I would not recommend it here if I didn't think

1208
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: that our listening really like it. It's called Everybody Lies,

1209
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: and it's it's a really great book because it basically

1210
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: says that, okay, fair warning, there are some things in there,

1211
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 1: like they talk about some things that are all raunch

1212
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: it's good that the this guy, Seth the author, Seth Stevens,

1213
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: David David Evitts. I know I'm butchering his name, but

1214
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: he um. Ultimately, he took years worth of Google search

1215
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: data and he like mapped to the most amazing things

1216
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: that tell us truth about ourselves. He talks about the election,

1217
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: he talks about, Oh, it's fantastic book. So it's really

1218
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: it's worth read. It just came out. I'm a big fan.

1219
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a I'm a it's it's a good

1220
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: it's a good read. So that's my first one and

1221
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: then my second. Dap Oreo cookies. Yeah, that's great choice.

1222
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: I just like them. Things we learned on the NFL

1223
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: Fantasy Live podcast. I love. I will give my first

1224
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: undaps to Chris Paul CP three. Uh got traded over

1225
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: to the Rockets because he said he did not want

1226
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,959
Speaker 1: to play for the l A Clippers anymore. I just don't.

1227
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: Then you want him gone, then that's fine. Doesn't want

1228
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: to play for them, then that's good. No, here's the thing,

1229
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: and you know, I know, you know Clipper Nation all

1230
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: that kind of but it's not it's not that I'm

1231
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: mad at him for leaving. I'm not that guy. I'm

1232
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: just saying I'm really not that guy like k D

1233
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: going to the Gold State World. I'm down, do do you?

1234
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: It's all good, But I just to me this it

1235
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. I mean why, First of all,

1236
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: the money, it makes absolute the Rockets need space. And

1237
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Yes, he retains his bird rights, that's fine.

1238
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: So and he's gonna take eleven million dollar hit this

1239
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: year with the thought that he could then sign a

1240
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: super max deal at the end of next season. Bro,

1241
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: you're playing with two hundred million dollars in change for

1242
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: a guy that has an extensive injury history. You're telling me,

1243
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: at the age of thirty three, somebody's gonna sign this

1244
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: guy to a five year super max deal with those injuries.

1245
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: And again we're talking about playing around with two hundred

1246
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: million dollars. Let's say he blows out an achilles. Let's

1247
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: say he blows out an A C L whatever it

1248
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: might be, that money is bye bye. It's just to me,

1249
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, it doesn't It didn't make sense from

1250
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: a financial standpoint to me, from a basketball standpoint, and

1251
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: may absolutely no sense. His style of gameplay does not

1252
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: mesh with what I think will work well with the

1253
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: Mike D'Antoni system. James Harden. There's James Harden there, who

1254
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: is also a ball dominant guard as well. Who just

1255
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,959
Speaker 1: who just put in an m v P level type

1256
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: season and you're gonna ask him to step aside and

1257
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: give the ball to CP CP three. Blake Griffin and he,

1258
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean they both had they put up pretty significant numbers.

1259
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: We're having a significant basketball talk, which I love, but

1260
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: we'll move on. I just don't think. I didn't like

1261
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: it from a basketball standpoint. I didn't like it from

1262
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: a financial standpoint. I just to me, it just didn't

1263
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: make a whole hell of a lot of sense. But

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Speaker 1: definitely was it definitely was like, WHOA, But I think

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Speaker 1: you're digging a little deeper, and you see, like I

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Speaker 1: think if you went to San Antonio, I'm all about it.

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Speaker 1: I'd be super happy for CP three. I think it'd

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Speaker 1: be great for the league. Blah blah blah blah. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: DAPs to the Great British breaking show, uh total left

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Speaker 1: turn here. I just my wife was into it and

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Speaker 1: I just started watching a few episodes, like I don't know,

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Speaker 1: like four or five weeks ago, and I first of all,

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Speaker 1: I'm a sucker for cooking shows like I love Chopped,

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Speaker 1: I love all you know, I can't stop watching especially Chopped.

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Speaker 1: Like if that's on, I'm like, I really crap. Let me,

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Speaker 1: let me let me watch it through this one break. Yes, no, um,

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Speaker 1: I I love cooking competition shows. I'm a sucker form

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Speaker 1: all Um Great British Baking Show, Mary Barry, Paul Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: Mel I'm going to butcher her name be Droike and

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Speaker 1: Sue Perkins, who I absolutely love. Um soup Perkins, I

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Speaker 1: think to me as a superstar. But but yes, on

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Speaker 1: your marks? Gets it? Uh, The Great British Baking Show.

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Speaker 1: It's on PBS. You can find it on Netflix as well.

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Speaker 1: The most current season is currently on Netflix. Go check

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Speaker 1: it out. What do you want to a bunch of depths?

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Speaker 1: I know it's all over the play Big Data Novel

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Speaker 1: or not Novel, a book which I have on my list.

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Speaker 1: Now you should And it's a great you candy awesome,

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Speaker 1: It's really awesome, really good. It is all over the place.

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Speaker 1: We got basketball, and we got we got some cooking

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Speaker 1: shows in we's movies. Do you have anything about the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers really quick, because I mean Tony Bellinger is a

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Speaker 1: beast that's gonna do it for a show. Okay for

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Speaker 1: the whiskey from Wisconsin, elexkell Hard, Cynthia Frail and joining

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Speaker 1: us on this beautiful ones off James COO, we'll see you,

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Speaker 1: don't I don't