WEBVTT - Let's Be Real...with Brian Austin Green (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>This is let's be clear with Shannon Dorny that last

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<v Speaker 1>episode was so good we had to give our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>some more. So we're back with Brian Austin Green. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to flash to then us doing the reboot, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because because as you know, and as some people may know,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not want to do it. Yeah, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it. Luke and I had had mini

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<v Speaker 1>meetings and conversations where we had both decided that neither

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<v Speaker 1>one of us were doing it, and instead we were

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<v Speaker 1>going to do our own show, and we had a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of different ideas and producers that we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>work with. And then Luke passed, Yeah, and you are

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<v Speaker 1>really the one. I was still sitting on the fence.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to honor him, but I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>revisit that. I didn't want to revisit the emotions it

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<v Speaker 1>might bring up. It just felt like I was going backwards, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And you're really the one that said to me, and

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<v Speaker 1>you were the only one, by the way, the only

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<v Speaker 1>one when we got to set, and even before negotiating

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<v Speaker 1>and talking about wardrobe and all these talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again at Luke's wake at the house, we were

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<v Speaker 2>sitting and your mom was there and you were sitting

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<v Speaker 2>on the back of the couch. I remember it like

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<v Speaker 2>I remember the conversation when that came up.

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<v Speaker 1>But you were the only one who knew that I

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<v Speaker 1>had cancer, that it had come back, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>was stage four, and I will say, you're probably You're

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<v Speaker 1>the main reason, next to besides Luke, that I did

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<v Speaker 1>that show. And what's really funny is that I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>happy I did it because you know, you had your

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<v Speaker 1>moment where you you were like, oh, I am funny,

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<v Speaker 1>I can do comedy. I think that was the moment

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<v Speaker 1>when I realized that I was funny and I could

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<v Speaker 1>do comedy too. I had always been told that I

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<v Speaker 1>was funny, but I always felt like, no, I'm too smart,

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<v Speaker 1>or I'm too serious, or I'm too dry, or I'm

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<v Speaker 1>too dark. I have a my sense of humor people

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<v Speaker 1>don't get because it's so dark. You and I have

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<v Speaker 1>a very similar sense of humor. We're both very dry

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<v Speaker 1>and a little on the dark side in a good way.

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<v Speaker 1>And we would talk about the scripts and you would

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<v Speaker 1>we would both say to each other, Yeah, we're just

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<v Speaker 1>going to improv. We're just gonna improv. And we.

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<v Speaker 2>Trailer with the candles and the whole thing, like improv

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<v Speaker 2>that entire thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We did improve the entire thing. That was amazing, and

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<v Speaker 1>the eating.

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<v Speaker 2>I look back on the reboot, it's such a great

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<v Speaker 2>experience because ultimately, I feel like we stepped back into

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<v Speaker 2>a situation that was so hard and traumatic when we

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<v Speaker 2>were younger, and we stepped in in a place now

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<v Speaker 2>where it's like, I'm done with all that shit. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna fucking show up here no matter what's going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna enjoy it. And we enjoyed each other's

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<v Speaker 2>company and time, and we had great fucking dinners, and

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<v Speaker 2>like it was. I gloved that experience. There were there

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<v Speaker 2>were parts of it that fucking sucked, of course. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So but that's that's gonna happen. Nice, That's gonna fucking

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<v Speaker 2>happen all the time. You're gonna get in the car

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<v Speaker 2>and there's gonna be fucking traffic and you're gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>that drive sucked. So what it's like, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>I always I always tell people, like one of the mantras,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that I really try and follow

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<v Speaker 2>on a daily basis is I feel like the only

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<v Speaker 2>thing in life that I have control over. I've said

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<v Speaker 2>this before is who I choose to be while living life,

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<v Speaker 2>because life fucking does this. It has a substance downs,

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<v Speaker 2>and it has the crazy shit, the neurological shit that

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<v Speaker 2>I went through, the fucking divorced stuff, like all the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you go through the lows and you go,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, this is fucking terrible, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>go these these highs where everything's great, and it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>who do I want to fucking be during all of this?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I want to be somebody that is unpredictable emotionally

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<v Speaker 2>because if things are going great, I'm super nice, and

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<v Speaker 2>then if things are going shitty, I'm a fucking asshole.

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<v Speaker 2>When you meet me or see me out somewhere, do

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be that guy? Or do I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be the guy that, no matter what, fucking stops

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<v Speaker 2>and takes time to connect with people genuinely. And you,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the I feel the same way about you. You're

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<v Speaker 2>very good at doing that. Like you, no matter what

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<v Speaker 2>is going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Around you.

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<v Speaker 2>Take the time to take in your surroundings and fucking

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<v Speaker 2>be the person. I've said it that char and I

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<v Speaker 2>were just talking about it to me, you live consciously

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<v Speaker 2>like all the time, Yeah, which is that's but it's

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<v Speaker 2>a choice. It's not People get confused. They think like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that person's just better than me. It's like, no, that's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fucking conscious It's a choice that I make

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<v Speaker 2>in every single situation, every conversation that comes up. My

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<v Speaker 2>first instinct is you want to fucking be venomous, and

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<v Speaker 2>you want to stand up for yourself and you want

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<v Speaker 2>to defend yourself and you want to do things. But

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<v Speaker 2>then I stop, and I take a breath, and I go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how do I really want to be in this moment?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if somebody's saying shitty things to me in

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<v Speaker 2>comments or in fucking whatever, do I want to fall

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<v Speaker 2>in line with that and become a part of that

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<v Speaker 2>fucking stupid conversation. Or do I want to stop and

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<v Speaker 2>go Okay, let's approach this as fucking respectful adults and

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<v Speaker 2>let's have a real conversation. And as soon as as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as I do, fuck, I feel so much better.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because then you can be proud of yourself, right

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<v Speaker 1>you can. You can then walk away from whatever that

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<v Speaker 1>conversation is or whatever encounter, that is, and be proud

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<v Speaker 1>that you handled it a certain way and with class

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<v Speaker 1>and with compassion and with integrity. I had a I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was mid fourth season of the original nine

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<v Speaker 1>to two one zero. I started going to therapy pretty

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<v Speaker 1>heavily because I was trying to figure out that marriage

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<v Speaker 1>and all of that. And she and I went for

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty long time afterwards, and she taught me something

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<v Speaker 1>that has always stayed with me, and that was that

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<v Speaker 1>she said, before you react, count to three, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you're still angry after you count to three, count to ten,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can answer. Then you can respond. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with taking a pause. You don't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>so reactionary so quick. And I think I was so

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<v Speaker 1>quick all the time in my earlier life because I

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<v Speaker 1>felt I felt attacked. I felt attacked, but I also

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<v Speaker 1>felt as a woman, I wasn't being heard. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>instantly respected like the men were. I wasn't paid as

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<v Speaker 1>much as Jason was or whoever was, And nobody considered

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<v Speaker 1>in that first season when I was sort of an

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<v Speaker 1>angel coming to work, nobody considered me to be the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback there was. And it was ingrained in my head

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<v Speaker 1>from being a child and having such amazing parents that

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<v Speaker 1>I was equal to my brother and that it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter what your gender was. Everybody should respect each other equally.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when I felt that I wasn't getting that,

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<v Speaker 1>my reaction was a very bad reaction, right, because my

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<v Speaker 1>reaction then took away any reason really respected me because

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<v Speaker 1>it was so incredibly reactionary, and I would get angry

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<v Speaker 1>and upset, and that if I said I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>how Brenda is being written, that it was, well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not up to you, right, and you don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>voice here. And when some executives and people helped those

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<v Speaker 1>people create the I Hate Brenda newsletter in order to

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<v Speaker 1>drum up that bad publicity, and I was saying, this

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<v Speaker 1>is hurtful to me personally, like I'm I'm young, and

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<v Speaker 1>these people are attacking me and I need help with this.

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<v Speaker 1>It was sort of, well, that publicity is great for

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<v Speaker 1>the show, and then it's funny to hear that in

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<v Speaker 1>the meeting, it was, well, she's getting really bad publicity. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't a good look for us. But going back

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<v Speaker 1>to my original point, I wish that I had learned

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<v Speaker 1>the whole three ten count at a much younger age,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know how much it benefits me. So even now,

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody is complaining about something in life, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I have gotten not great news about cancer, I still

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<v Speaker 1>stop and count to myself and say, it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>what you're going through. What matters they're needing to share.

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<v Speaker 1>They're needing somebody to listen to them and give them comfort,

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<v Speaker 1>and you need to do that. You need to give

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<v Speaker 1>them some comfort and love. And whenever, now, whenever somebody

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<v Speaker 1>says it's so stupid that I would complain to you,

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<v Speaker 1>you of all people, and I'm like, no, I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>the right person to complain to now, because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think everything's relative my health situation. You went through a

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<v Speaker 1>massive health situation. That does not mean that we're in

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<v Speaker 1>a competition. It's not a competition, and we're not excluded

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<v Speaker 1>from from being a part of your life and hearing

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<v Speaker 1>what your issues are and trying to help you as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I hate Brendan newsletter. I totally forgot about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was brutal.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly believe like you weren't meant to be on

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<v Speaker 2>the show for more than the four seasons that you were,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's no you were meant to move, move out

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<v Speaker 2>into the world and do some other stuff, and like

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<v Speaker 2>that was that. That was a strange, little little group.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an amazing group, but it's a strange one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the universe, man, the universe has these like

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<v Speaker 2>weird fucking things happen and it doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But you look back on them and you go, man,

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<v Speaker 2>thank god, thank god, you weren't you weren't stuck there

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<v Speaker 2>for another eight years or six years. That would have

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<v Speaker 2>you would have I know you, you like you would have

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<v Speaker 2>felt so fucking caged by that experience. You're not someone

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<v Speaker 2>in my experience to be like quit in a box

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<v Speaker 2>and you know this is this is just what your

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<v Speaker 2>life is now. You like you just love to fucking

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<v Speaker 2>roam and do and try things and experience things and

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<v Speaker 2>do all that and now two and zero. After a while,

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<v Speaker 2>it really didn't offer that. I mean, we were at

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<v Speaker 2>the point when we were at like the double up

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<v Speaker 2>episodes and doing all that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so like it was brutal.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a grind Monday through Friday. You'd get there

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<v Speaker 2>at seven thirty in the morning and you'd worked till

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<v Speaker 2>eight thirty at night and you'd go to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just like groundhogs day. Every single day

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<v Speaker 2>you'd show up.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think for me, Charmed was the only show

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<v Speaker 1>that I probably could have been on forever, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there was just something about it. There was my character,

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<v Speaker 1>my crew, my directors, my writers. That was also your

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<v Speaker 1>show like you, and I was directing it just yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing stunts. It felt like I was getting

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<v Speaker 1>to rome and not be in a box while also

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<v Speaker 1>still being in a box. But it was a box

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<v Speaker 1>that I was super happy with versus I agree with you,

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<v Speaker 1>I think nine which you want to know, everything does

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<v Speaker 1>happen for a reason. And and if I had stayed,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably would have gotten fired a year or two

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<v Speaker 1>years or three years later because I would have been

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<v Speaker 1>so incredibly unhappy.

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<v Speaker 2>You would Yeah, you would have fucking hated it. You

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<v Speaker 2>would have hated it.

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<v Speaker 1>There well, I also hated the direction Brenda went.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have been like, these stories are fucking ridiculous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what is happening with my character? Why am I saying this?

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<v Speaker 2>You hadn't just been like up in arms every day

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<v Speaker 2>on set because I was, and you know me like

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<v Speaker 2>I am as damn near as agreeable as they come.

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<v Speaker 2>I was rewriting scenes. I was like, this is fucking terror,

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<v Speaker 2>this is garbage, ripped this page up. Fucking Tory and

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<v Speaker 2>I were sitting in and I'm not a writer, torrit,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Tory is a writer, like but but

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that we were doing that is like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's yeah. It was Uh, that show got tough tough

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<v Speaker 2>to fucking write for it after a while because it

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Okay, we're we graduated high school and now

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<v Speaker 2>we're in college. Okay, now we're we graduated college. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we're working at the fucking store. I felt like everybody

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<v Speaker 2>stayed the same. It was like the same sort of issues,

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<v Speaker 2>the same drama.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of I mean, listen, I didn't really watch

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<v Speaker 1>it when I was on it, so I didn't watch

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<v Speaker 1>it when I was offer, But from everything that people

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<v Speaker 1>conveyed to me afterwards, it just got Some of the

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<v Speaker 1>storylines were, oh, it just.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just yourself deeper and deeper into the same So

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<v Speaker 2>like it wasn't it didn't. It didn't grow at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like our environment changed, but our characters didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really change. Like it was we were just in a

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<v Speaker 2>new we were on new sets, wearing new clothes and

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<v Speaker 2>doing new stuff, and it was a new year. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like that, that was it. Otherwise it was just the

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<v Speaker 2>same stuff we were shooting Season eight was the same

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<v Speaker 2>as scenes we were shooting Season two. Like it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>they were. It was damn near a copy and paste

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<v Speaker 2>at that point. It would have it would have driven

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<v Speaker 2>you fucking crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, I guess I'll thank everybody the next

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<v Speaker 1>time I see that totally. Hey, I want to thank

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<v Speaker 1>you all for that phone call. I really want to

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<v Speaker 1>thank you guys for firing me. Guys I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>and not wanting me to be there. I just want

0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you to know the way that would be. I would

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<v Speaker 1>there's some people I would love to see the reaction

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<v Speaker 1>to that. I might actually do it, because it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of funny to so many years later go up.

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<v Speaker 2>To just call everyone almost like you know, aa, like

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<v Speaker 2>make amends, like you call everyone, you go listen. I

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<v Speaker 2>just wanted to thank you for that phone call you

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<v Speaker 2>guys had that day, because changed for the better at

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<v Speaker 2>that point, right, And I didn't sound to show knew

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<v Speaker 2>me because of that experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at their notes because they do have really

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<v Speaker 1>good notes. Uh, did you feel like a little brothers

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<v Speaker 1>to me? No, you felt like I didn't right, No, No,

0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.680
<v Speaker 1>you felt like seemed like fucking bros. Like we were.

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<v Speaker 2>It was aside from the fact that we were different

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<v Speaker 2>ages that never ever fucking played a part in anything,

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<v Speaker 2>but we we hung out and to me, like you were,

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<v Speaker 2>we were absolute fucking me equals. I gotta say, like

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<v Speaker 2>that was that was one of the experiences that I

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<v Speaker 2>had with pretty much all the cast was like I was.

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<v Speaker 2>They never treated me as like the younger one or

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, Jay would call me young Brie and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, Like there was always reference to that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was never treated by anyone, uh, in any

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<v Speaker 2>sort of different way. And you and I especially never

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<v Speaker 2>had that relationship. I think, like I remember showing up

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<v Speaker 2>on setting, you being there and feeling so relieved because

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, oh, I fucking know somebody here, great

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<v Speaker 2>and we'd we'd worked on all sorts of things around

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<v Speaker 2>each other. We had never worked together on anything, so

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, beyond set, it was like holy shit,

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<v Speaker 2>like auctionnon too, this is this is great. I still

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, it's a pilot, Like we'll do this

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<v Speaker 2>pilot and then we'll you know, but hey, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to do a pilot together. That's great, you know, yeah

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<v Speaker 2>next year when we're doing you know, the fucking Prices

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<v Speaker 2>right reboot.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it like for you when you came back

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<v Speaker 1>for like season five and I wasn't there was there

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<v Speaker 1>anything weird on this set? Not to be all self consumed,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just curious if it felt weird or if

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<v Speaker 1>did because did Tiffany come on right after me?

0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:55.640
<v Speaker 2>She came on right after you.

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<v Speaker 1>In a way, it was almost like I lost my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>but now my girlfriend's on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>It was It was definitely weird, though, like it was

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<v Speaker 2>for me. What was weird was like being in the

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<v Speaker 2>hallways where you usually were and not seeing you, not

0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.080
<v Speaker 2>seeing you in the makeup trailer, not like being on

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<v Speaker 2>set because we talked about this before. We didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>much stuff together on so they had a couple fun

0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:24.800
<v Speaker 2>things for us here and there, like we would dance it,

0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, the pool party or whatever. We would be

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<v Speaker 2>off on the side doing that kind of stuff. Stuff

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<v Speaker 2>honestly that I think you and I created more than

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<v Speaker 2>was written.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was.

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<v Speaker 2>We we just it was like oh there's a group

0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:37.840
<v Speaker 2>of people. Okay, I'm gonna end up with Sham because

0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I'd rather be over there. So we're gonna be here

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<v Speaker 2>all day for the fucking party scene. But I remember

0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:49.679
<v Speaker 2>it was the daily life, like getting a set, because

0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:53.400
<v Speaker 2>we had a like a routine. After four fucking years,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a routine. It's like you you get there,

0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.520
<v Speaker 2>you know where everybody is, you know everybody hangs out,

0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:00.680
<v Speaker 2>you know where like the spots are and the things,

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<v Speaker 2>and so to get there and all of a sudden,

0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.560
<v Speaker 2>it was like I would get to those places and

0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.800
<v Speaker 2>you weren't there. It was fucking strange, like it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't It wasn't so much. I didn't feel so

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<v Speaker 2>much of the professional loss as I did the personal

0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.280
<v Speaker 2>loss because it was just you were a part of

0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.240
<v Speaker 2>that experience for me. You were a part of life there.

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<v Speaker 2>So then when you weren't there, it was strange. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Losing a pet.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It's like when you watch the other pets

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<v Speaker 2>kind of come around, it's like there where Now what

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<v Speaker 2>do we fucking do? You know? This is the one

0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:39.840
<v Speaker 2>that we like followed and hung out with, and didn't

0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:43.480
<v Speaker 2>you just compared to a pet. I didn't compare you

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<v Speaker 2>to a pet, but I compared the loss of you

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<v Speaker 2>for people that haven't lost a callag you at work.

0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.119
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people have lost pets. I'm going to

0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:53.919
<v Speaker 2>cut you off there, s because that's uh.

0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.760
<v Speaker 1>But you know what was really cool was that when

0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:02.720
<v Speaker 1>we did the reboot, I think we consciously decided that

0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:06.720
<v Speaker 1>we wanted to actually work more together because we hadn't.

0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:07.479
<v Speaker 2>We did.

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<v Speaker 1>We pitched and they led us, so a lot of

0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.679
<v Speaker 1>our stuff was just you and me, which was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And again and we would do the improv and we

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<v Speaker 1>would just go on tangents and play and have fun

0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:24.040
<v Speaker 1>and be creative, and our sense of humors would compliment

0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:28.080
<v Speaker 1>each other. And our wardrobe was super cool.

0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:32.640
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I'll never I'll never forget the one scene

0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:36.520
<v Speaker 2>we had that ended with you reading watermelon because they

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<v Speaker 2>kept all of that in. I was shocked, Like it

0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.600
<v Speaker 2>was the final episode. It was the party at at

0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:45.080
<v Speaker 2>my house as we're picked up and you were reading watermelon,

0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.439
<v Speaker 2>you offered me some. It was They kept like an

0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:50.959
<v Speaker 2>extra two and a half minutes of us just fucking

0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:52.200
<v Speaker 2>like riffing.

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<v Speaker 1>And and that was pretty cool of them to keep

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<v Speaker 1>it was great yeah. It was fun because you would

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<v Speaker 1>think that they would have cut that and they don

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was and I and I loved

0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:07.720
<v Speaker 1>that you were that through all of my like on

0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:10.720
<v Speaker 1>camera eating scenes and it's finally in the last episode

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:12.320
<v Speaker 1>that you start partaking in the eating.

0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.159
<v Speaker 2>I love that you told me early on though, you

0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:19.199
<v Speaker 2>were like, so one of my choices is I'm going

0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:21.800
<v Speaker 2>to eat in every scene. I was like, fucked, dope,

0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't take the scene when you guys, when we

0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.399
<v Speaker 2>were all up on stage singing with Ray and you

0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.200
<v Speaker 2>were just like eating all the time. It was fine.

0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:33.000
<v Speaker 1>It was so great and and everybody else was looking

0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:33.240
<v Speaker 1>at me.

0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Like, bananas, sandwiches, apple, you do whatever the fuck you

0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:38.960
<v Speaker 2>could consume? Do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Somehow I picked skittles one day when

0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:46.080
<v Speaker 1>we were all sitting around in the director's chairs for

0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:50.760
<v Speaker 1>that scene, and I was so sick from the candy,

0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:53.359
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't think that it would take that many takes,

0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:57.120
<v Speaker 1>but it did, and I just had it. Oh god.

0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.320
<v Speaker 1>That's that was the first time that I went maybe

0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.320
<v Speaker 1>this eating thing is not totally I think I'm going

0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:07.560
<v Speaker 1>to rethink this character episode eight, but I was happy

0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.600
<v Speaker 1>with it again that was that was a really fun

0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:14.320
<v Speaker 1>experience for me. I felt I felt super very free

0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.600
<v Speaker 1>and like liberated from myself.

0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Remember when we went and ate and at that Mexican

0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:23.280
<v Speaker 2>restaurant and it was like a fucking twenty minute walk

0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.000
<v Speaker 2>to get there, and like I remember just walking through

0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:29.600
<v Speaker 2>the city and like looking at sty was. So it

0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.920
<v Speaker 2>was so cool that way, because that is not we

0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:36.480
<v Speaker 2>don't have time to do stuff like that. We don't

0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:39.560
<v Speaker 2>have lives that support that type of behavior. But when

0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:41.240
<v Speaker 2>you're in Vancouver, you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good with getting out seeing a place, and I

0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:54.200
<v Speaker 1>go into a self conscious mode and I hide. So

0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:58.639
<v Speaker 1>I was hiding out in my hotel suite, and you

0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:02.399
<v Speaker 1>were the one that all said called me, I'll be

0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:05.440
<v Speaker 1>outside your hotel in five minutes, like we're going for

0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:07.000
<v Speaker 1>a walk, we're going to go here, we're going to

0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:10.000
<v Speaker 1>go do this. And you got me out and got

0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.280
<v Speaker 1>me seeing things and yeah.

0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:15.160
<v Speaker 2>And I've been there for like three weeks though before

0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:16.960
<v Speaker 2>you got there, or two and a half weeks before

0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.680
<v Speaker 2>you got there. So I like, for me, it was

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:22.800
<v Speaker 2>when you got there, I wanted you because I felt

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:27.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I felt a bit not responsible for you

0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.639
<v Speaker 2>being there, but I really felt like you're here. I

0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:32.840
<v Speaker 2>wanted to take care of you and make sure that

0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:35.840
<v Speaker 2>you felt good and that you had a good experience

0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:39.080
<v Speaker 2>in the city and that it was the best it

0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:42.919
<v Speaker 2>could be, because like I talked you into a lot

0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:46.520
<v Speaker 2>of this shit, Like I just was in your ear constantly,

0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:48.760
<v Speaker 2>like come on, let's do this and it'll be fucking great,

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:50.159
<v Speaker 2>and you know you'll you'll love doing it.

0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:52.520
<v Speaker 1>And also coming in two and a half weeks later

0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:57.440
<v Speaker 1>is hard because everybody's established themselves. Yeah, you know, they've

0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:00.639
<v Speaker 1>rented apartments right, you know, next door each other, so

0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.680
<v Speaker 1>there's always there's there's already a click going on. And

0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter that you're, however much older, you still

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 1>get when it's time to get on that plane. And

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:17.200
<v Speaker 1>then when it's time to walk on that set and

0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:22.520
<v Speaker 1>see everybody again, it's it's like massive butterflies in your stomach.

0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:29.160
<v Speaker 1>But you didn't you you didn't once let me feel

0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:31.479
<v Speaker 1>like I was out there by myself. You were very

0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:35.359
<v Speaker 1>much shan, we're going here, we're going there, we're doing this.

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I never ate lunch by myself.

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<v Speaker 2>And how crazy is it that the apartment that I

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:46.359
<v Speaker 2>had was not near anybody else's. It was I was

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:48.239
<v Speaker 2>in my own spot and I was literally like two

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:51.440
<v Speaker 2>blocks away from you, right, So it was like you

0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:54.639
<v Speaker 2>got there and just that naturally happened, like it wasn't

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:57.359
<v Speaker 2>nobody planned for that because I don't know that city

0:23:57.480 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 2>at all. People were like, where do you want to stay?

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I have no fucking where. I text Jason,

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, where should I stay?

0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:06.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't you know? What's the good area? It's a

0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:08.240
<v Speaker 1>good spot. Your area. It was really good. That was

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Cole Harbor was Yeah, it's a really good good.

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 2>The seawall and stuff there, because I would every morning

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:17.200
<v Speaker 2>get down to the seawall the path around on my

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:20.120
<v Speaker 2>electric skateboard and I just fucking go out. So then

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:23.879
<v Speaker 2>when you got there, it was all about like, come like,

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 2>come with me on all this stuff. We're gonna walk

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 2>the sea wall, we'll go to the restaurants, we'll go

0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:30.119
<v Speaker 2>to the coffee shops, we'll do the things. And it

0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 2>was fucking great. It was. I'd so I had so

0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:35.680
<v Speaker 2>much fun doing that with you. I'm so glad that

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 2>you were out there in.

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:39.879
<v Speaker 1>The meet too. Thank you what I thought if you weren't.

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for like being in my ear and making

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:48.399
<v Speaker 1>me get past myself and doing it because I it

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:52.639
<v Speaker 1>was an awesome, awesome experience. I'm so happy I did it.

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Like really, looking back, I'm like that was that was

0:24:57.000 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>just an awesome experience and and did so much for me.

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:06.199
<v Speaker 1>And it's exactly what I needed because I'd just been

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>diagnosed with stage four like February, I guess or something, Yeah,

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 1>February towards the end of February. So to have that distraction,

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 1>to have something going on, and to at least for

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:24.360
<v Speaker 1>six episodes, think that you're going to have a job

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:27.159
<v Speaker 1>and that cancer isn't going to impact your career and

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:30.879
<v Speaker 1>nobody's going to want to hire you. It was really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>And then to be able to hang out with you

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<v Speaker 1>and have fun and play characters that we got to

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<v Speaker 1>essentially develop, and it was just overall really awesome experience,

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<v Speaker 1>one that I loved. So thank you. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think I've asked you everything that I would

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask you. And also aren't we supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>do yours right now? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So for people that don't know, yeah, we're doing two

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<v Speaker 2>episodes today.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm on your podcast and then you get to

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<v Speaker 2>come over to my world.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is awesome because I love Your Guys podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen Randy in forever.

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<v Speaker 2>He's so excited to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so excited too. And then obviously you know

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<v Speaker 1>that I love Sharana, So I'm I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 1>now been doing this podcast thing for a while. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't really, but it feels like it. So to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the other end of being on your Guys podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be really cool. You know what's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about when I remember when I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to you before I had the uh like the documentary,

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<v Speaker 2>the idea, and you were like, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>fucking talk about nine O two one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't want to rehash any of that shit. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut to now we're on each other's podcasts, and literally

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<v Speaker 2>we've been talking about nine O two one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. I know, I know, I do remember that. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fucking cathartic, man. It's like, I strongly SI just

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<v Speaker 2>to people that went through any sort of traumatic experience

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<v Speaker 2>earlier on and are trying to avoid that and not

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<v Speaker 2>dredge that up, and feel like, oh, maybe if I

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<v Speaker 2>just bury it and I forget that it was there,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be better for me fucking get out and talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it. We're totally different people, you know than when

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<v Speaker 2>we did the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And going through divorces, which both of us have gone Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same thing. It's you can go through a

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<v Speaker 1>divorce and either feel anger, resentment, or whatever. My case,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bunch of other emotions and you can sweep

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>that under the rug or you can deal with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And by talking about it, you learn so much about

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 1>yourself in the process, and you also learn so much

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<v Speaker 1>about what other people that are in your life thought

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<v Speaker 1>of you and of that during that time, and so

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>they get to voice what they saw, what their concerns were,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to deal with that. It is very cathartic.

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<v Speaker 2>It is uh, just not letting life break you. It's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when shit comes up, just fucking like take it,

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 2>take it on head on and fucking stand tough and

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:26.160
<v Speaker 2>stand proud and stand tall, and you'll be fine. You'll

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 2>be okay. Like shit fucking hurts and shit sucks, but

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 2>you'll be okay. Just stick with it, right, see it through,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's a there's always something at the other end

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<v Speaker 2>of it. Always there's no way to avoid that really.

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<v Speaker 1>About coming in the resolution, because in order to get

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<v Speaker 1>past it, you have to resolve it. And so if

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>you resolve it and you're able to resolve it with

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<v Speaker 1>peace within yourself and maybe with others, sometimes there is

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<v Speaker 1>no peace with other people, but you can still find

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>the peace within yourself and give yourself the grace and

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<v Speaker 1>move on. It's so much healthier and you feel way lighter,

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>way lighter. Yeah. So I'm going to call everybody now

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>and be like, hey, thank you so much for getting

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<v Speaker 1>me fired.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Hey, so I really wanted to talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>about that conversation that was had thirty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>That for you than that, Yeah, Like I haven't thanked you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't really heard how traumatic that must have

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<v Speaker 1>been for you. So if you can share that with me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to you for a minute. Okay, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know what you.

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Felt during that thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's a good one, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Shan, come on over. I'll sorry over on Oldish.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'll see you over there.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you too.

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<v Speaker 2>Fe