Speaker 1: This is let's be clear with Shannon Dorny that last
Speaker 1: episode was so good we had to give our listeners
Speaker 1: some more. So we're back with Brian Austin Green. I'm
Speaker 1: going to flash to then us doing the reboot, okay,
Speaker 1: because because as you know, and as some people may know,
Speaker 1: I did not want to do it. Yeah, I wasn't
Speaker 1: going to do it. Luke and I had had mini
Speaker 1: meetings and conversations where we had both decided that neither
Speaker 1: one of us were doing it, and instead we were
Speaker 1: going to do our own show, and we had a
Speaker 1: couple of different ideas and producers that we wanted to
Speaker 1: work with. And then Luke passed, Yeah, and you are
Speaker 1: really the one. I was still sitting on the fence.
Speaker 1: I wanted to honor him, but I didn't want to
Speaker 1: revisit that. I didn't want to revisit the emotions it
Speaker 1: might bring up. It just felt like I was going backwards, right,
Speaker 1: And you're really the one that said to me, and
Speaker 1: you were the only one, by the way, the only
Speaker 1: one when we got to set, and even before negotiating
Speaker 1: and talking about wardrobe and all these talking.
Speaker 2: Now again at Luke's wake at the house, we were
Speaker 2: sitting and your mom was there and you were sitting
Speaker 2: on the back of the couch. I remember it like
Speaker 2: I remember the conversation when that came up.
Speaker 1: But you were the only one who knew that I
Speaker 1: had cancer, that it had come back, and then it
Speaker 1: was stage four, and I will say, you're probably You're
Speaker 1: the main reason, next to besides Luke, that I did
Speaker 1: that show. And what's really funny is that I'm very
Speaker 1: happy I did it because you know, you had your
Speaker 1: moment where you you were like, oh, I am funny,
Speaker 1: I can do comedy. I think that was the moment
Speaker 1: when I realized that I was funny and I could
Speaker 1: do comedy too. I had always been told that I
Speaker 1: was funny, but I always felt like, no, I'm too smart,
Speaker 1: or I'm too serious, or I'm too dry, or I'm
Speaker 1: too dark. I have a my sense of humor people
Speaker 1: don't get because it's so dark. You and I have
Speaker 1: a very similar sense of humor. We're both very dry
Speaker 1: and a little on the dark side in a good way.
Speaker 1: And we would talk about the scripts and you would
Speaker 1: we would both say to each other, Yeah, we're just
Speaker 1: going to improv. We're just gonna improv. And we.
Speaker 2: Trailer with the candles and the whole thing, like improv
Speaker 2: that entire thing.
Speaker 1: We did improve the entire thing. That was amazing, and
Speaker 1: the eating.
Speaker 2: I look back on the reboot, it's such a great
Speaker 2: experience because ultimately, I feel like we stepped back into
Speaker 2: a situation that was so hard and traumatic when we
Speaker 2: were younger, and we stepped in in a place now
Speaker 2: where it's like, I'm done with all that shit. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna fucking show up here no matter what's going on,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna enjoy it. And we enjoyed each other's
Speaker 2: company and time, and we had great fucking dinners, and
Speaker 2: like it was. I gloved that experience. There were there
Speaker 2: were parts of it that fucking sucked, of course. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So but that's that's gonna happen. Nice, That's gonna fucking
Speaker 2: happen all the time. You're gonna get in the car
Speaker 2: and there's gonna be fucking traffic and you're gonna go
Speaker 2: that drive sucked. So what it's like, you know, it's
Speaker 2: I always I always tell people, like one of the mantras,
Speaker 2: one of the things that I really try and follow
Speaker 2: on a daily basis is I feel like the only
Speaker 2: thing in life that I have control over. I've said
Speaker 2: this before is who I choose to be while living life,
Speaker 2: because life fucking does this. It has a substance downs,
Speaker 2: and it has the crazy shit, the neurological shit that
Speaker 2: I went through, the fucking divorced stuff, like all the
Speaker 2: you know, you go through the lows and you go,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is fucking terrible, and then you
Speaker 2: go these these highs where everything's great, and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: who do I want to fucking be during all of this?
Speaker 2: Do I want to be somebody that is unpredictable emotionally
Speaker 2: because if things are going great, I'm super nice, and
Speaker 2: then if things are going shitty, I'm a fucking asshole.
Speaker 2: When you meet me or see me out somewhere, do
Speaker 2: I want to be that guy? Or do I want
Speaker 2: to be the guy that, no matter what, fucking stops
Speaker 2: and takes time to connect with people genuinely. And you,
Speaker 2: it's the I feel the same way about you. You're
Speaker 2: very good at doing that. Like you, no matter what
Speaker 2: is going on.
Speaker 1: Around you.
Speaker 2: Take the time to take in your surroundings and fucking
Speaker 2: be the person. I've said it that char and I
Speaker 2: were just talking about it to me, you live consciously
Speaker 2: like all the time, Yeah, which is that's but it's
Speaker 2: a choice. It's not People get confused. They think like, oh,
Speaker 2: that person's just better than me. It's like, no, that's not.
Speaker 2: It's a fucking conscious It's a choice that I make
Speaker 2: in every single situation, every conversation that comes up. My
Speaker 2: first instinct is you want to fucking be venomous, and
Speaker 2: you want to stand up for yourself and you want
Speaker 2: to defend yourself and you want to do things. But
Speaker 2: then I stop, and I take a breath, and I go, Okay,
Speaker 2: how do I really want to be in this moment?
Speaker 2: You know, if somebody's saying shitty things to me in
Speaker 2: comments or in fucking whatever, do I want to fall
Speaker 2: in line with that and become a part of that
Speaker 2: fucking stupid conversation. Or do I want to stop and
Speaker 2: go Okay, let's approach this as fucking respectful adults and
Speaker 2: let's have a real conversation. And as soon as as
Speaker 2: soon as I do, fuck, I feel so much better.
Speaker 1: Well, because then you can be proud of yourself, right
Speaker 1: you can. You can then walk away from whatever that
Speaker 1: conversation is or whatever encounter, that is, and be proud
Speaker 1: that you handled it a certain way and with class
Speaker 1: and with compassion and with integrity. I had a I
Speaker 1: think it was mid fourth season of the original nine
Speaker 1: to two one zero. I started going to therapy pretty
Speaker 1: heavily because I was trying to figure out that marriage
Speaker 1: and all of that. And she and I went for
Speaker 1: a pretty long time afterwards, and she taught me something
Speaker 1: that has always stayed with me, and that was that
Speaker 1: she said, before you react, count to three, and if
Speaker 1: you're still angry after you count to three, count to ten,
Speaker 1: then you can answer. Then you can respond. There's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with taking a pause. You don't have to be
Speaker 1: so reactionary so quick. And I think I was so
Speaker 1: quick all the time in my earlier life because I
Speaker 1: felt I felt attacked. I felt attacked, but I also
Speaker 1: felt as a woman, I wasn't being heard. I wasn't
Speaker 1: instantly respected like the men were. I wasn't paid as
Speaker 1: much as Jason was or whoever was, And nobody considered
Speaker 1: in that first season when I was sort of an
Speaker 1: angel coming to work, nobody considered me to be the
Speaker 1: quarterback there was. And it was ingrained in my head
Speaker 1: from being a child and having such amazing parents that
Speaker 1: I was equal to my brother and that it didn't
Speaker 1: matter what your gender was. Everybody should respect each other equally.
Speaker 1: And so when I felt that I wasn't getting that,
Speaker 1: my reaction was a very bad reaction, right, because my
Speaker 1: reaction then took away any reason really respected me because
Speaker 1: it was so incredibly reactionary, and I would get angry
Speaker 1: and upset, and that if I said I don't like
Speaker 1: how Brenda is being written, that it was, well, it's
Speaker 1: not up to you, right, and you don't have a
Speaker 1: voice here. And when some executives and people helped those
Speaker 1: people create the I Hate Brenda newsletter in order to
Speaker 1: drum up that bad publicity, and I was saying, this
Speaker 1: is hurtful to me personally, like I'm I'm young, and
Speaker 1: these people are attacking me and I need help with this.
Speaker 1: It was sort of, well, that publicity is great for
Speaker 1: the show, and then it's funny to hear that in
Speaker 1: the meeting, it was, well, she's getting really bad publicity. Now,
Speaker 1: this isn't a good look for us. But going back
Speaker 1: to my original point, I wish that I had learned
Speaker 1: the whole three ten count at a much younger age,
Speaker 1: because I know how much it benefits me. So even now,
Speaker 1: if somebody is complaining about something in life, and maybe
Speaker 1: I have gotten not great news about cancer, I still
Speaker 1: stop and count to myself and say, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what you're going through. What matters they're needing to share.
Speaker 1: They're needing somebody to listen to them and give them comfort,
Speaker 1: and you need to do that. You need to give
Speaker 1: them some comfort and love. And whenever, now, whenever somebody
Speaker 1: says it's so stupid that I would complain to you,
Speaker 1: you of all people, and I'm like, no, I'm actually
Speaker 1: the right person to complain to now, because I don't
Speaker 1: think everything's relative my health situation. You went through a
Speaker 1: massive health situation. That does not mean that we're in
Speaker 1: a competition. It's not a competition, and we're not excluded
Speaker 1: from from being a part of your life and hearing
Speaker 1: what your issues are and trying to help you as well.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I hate Brendan newsletter. I totally forgot about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was brutal.
Speaker 2: I honestly believe like you weren't meant to be on
Speaker 2: the show for more than the four seasons that you were,
Speaker 2: Like there's no you were meant to move, move out
Speaker 2: into the world and do some other stuff, and like
Speaker 2: that was that. That was a strange, little little group.
Speaker 2: It was an amazing group, but it's a strange one.
Speaker 2: I think the universe, man, the universe has these like
Speaker 2: weird fucking things happen and it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: But you look back on them and you go, man,
Speaker 2: thank god, thank god, you weren't you weren't stuck there
Speaker 2: for another eight years or six years. That would have
Speaker 2: you would have I know you, you like you would have
Speaker 2: felt so fucking caged by that experience. You're not someone
Speaker 2: in my experience to be like quit in a box
Speaker 2: and you know this is this is just what your
Speaker 2: life is now. You like you just love to fucking
Speaker 2: roam and do and try things and experience things and
Speaker 2: do all that and now two and zero. After a while,
Speaker 2: it really didn't offer that. I mean, we were at
Speaker 2: the point when we were at like the double up
Speaker 2: episodes and doing all that shit.
Speaker 1: It was so like it was brutal.
Speaker 2: It was a grind Monday through Friday. You'd get there
Speaker 2: at seven thirty in the morning and you'd worked till
Speaker 2: eight thirty at night and you'd go to you know,
Speaker 2: and it was just like groundhogs day. Every single day
Speaker 2: you'd show up.
Speaker 1: And I think for me, Charmed was the only show
Speaker 1: that I probably could have been on forever, because yeah,
Speaker 1: there was just something about it. There was my character,
Speaker 1: my crew, my directors, my writers. That was also your
Speaker 1: show like you, and I was directing it just yeah,
Speaker 1: I was doing stunts. It felt like I was getting
Speaker 1: to rome and not be in a box while also
Speaker 1: still being in a box. But it was a box
Speaker 1: that I was super happy with versus I agree with you,
Speaker 1: I think nine which you want to know, everything does
Speaker 1: happen for a reason. And and if I had stayed,
Speaker 1: I probably would have gotten fired a year or two
Speaker 1: years or three years later because I would have been
Speaker 1: so incredibly unhappy.
Speaker 2: You would Yeah, you would have fucking hated it. You
Speaker 2: would have hated it.
Speaker 1: There well, I also hated the direction Brenda went.
Speaker 2: You would have been like, these stories are fucking ridiculous. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what is happening with my character? Why am I saying this?
Speaker 2: You hadn't just been like up in arms every day
Speaker 2: on set because I was, and you know me like
Speaker 2: I am as damn near as agreeable as they come.
Speaker 2: I was rewriting scenes. I was like, this is fucking terror,
Speaker 2: this is garbage, ripped this page up. Fucking Tory and
Speaker 2: I were sitting in and I'm not a writer, torrit,
Speaker 2: I don't think Tory is a writer, like but but
Speaker 2: the fact that we were doing that is like, okay,
Speaker 2: that's yeah. It was Uh, that show got tough tough
Speaker 2: to fucking write for it after a while because it
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, we're we graduated high school and now
Speaker 2: we're in college. Okay, now we're we graduated college. Now
Speaker 2: we're working at the fucking store. I felt like everybody
Speaker 2: stayed the same. It was like the same sort of issues,
Speaker 2: the same drama.
Speaker 1: It kind of I mean, listen, I didn't really watch
Speaker 1: it when I was on it, so I didn't watch
Speaker 1: it when I was offer, But from everything that people
Speaker 1: conveyed to me afterwards, it just got Some of the
Speaker 1: storylines were, oh, it just.
Speaker 2: It's just yourself deeper and deeper into the same So
Speaker 2: like it wasn't it didn't. It didn't grow at the time.
Speaker 2: It was like our environment changed, but our characters didn't
Speaker 2: really change. Like it was we were just in a
Speaker 2: new we were on new sets, wearing new clothes and
Speaker 2: doing new stuff, and it was a new year. It's
Speaker 2: like that, that was it. Otherwise it was just the
Speaker 2: same stuff we were shooting Season eight was the same
Speaker 2: as scenes we were shooting Season two. Like it wasn't
Speaker 2: they were. It was damn near a copy and paste
Speaker 2: at that point. It would have it would have driven
Speaker 2: you fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I guess I'll thank everybody the next
Speaker 1: time I see that totally. Hey, I want to thank
Speaker 1: you all for that phone call. I really want to
Speaker 1: thank you guys for firing me. Guys I really appreciate
Speaker 1: and not wanting me to be there. I just want
Speaker 1: you to know the way that would be. I would
Speaker 1: there's some people I would love to see the reaction
Speaker 1: to that. I might actually do it, because it's kind
Speaker 1: of funny to so many years later go up.
Speaker 2: To just call everyone almost like you know, aa, like
Speaker 2: make amends, like you call everyone, you go listen. I
Speaker 2: just wanted to thank you for that phone call you
Speaker 2: guys had that day, because changed for the better at
Speaker 2: that point, right, And I didn't sound to show knew
Speaker 2: me because of that experience.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at their notes because they do have really
Speaker 1: good notes. Uh, did you feel like a little brothers
Speaker 1: to me? No, you felt like I didn't right, No, No,
Speaker 1: you felt like seemed like fucking bros. Like we were.
Speaker 2: It was aside from the fact that we were different
Speaker 2: ages that never ever fucking played a part in anything,
Speaker 2: but we we hung out and to me, like you were,
Speaker 2: we were absolute fucking me equals. I gotta say, like
Speaker 2: that was that was one of the experiences that I
Speaker 2: had with pretty much all the cast was like I was.
Speaker 2: They never treated me as like the younger one or
Speaker 2: like you know, Jay would call me young Brie and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, Like there was always reference to that.
Speaker 2: But I was never treated by anyone, uh, in any
Speaker 2: sort of different way. And you and I especially never
Speaker 2: had that relationship. I think, like I remember showing up
Speaker 2: on setting, you being there and feeling so relieved because
Speaker 2: it was like, oh, I fucking know somebody here, great
Speaker 2: and we'd we'd worked on all sorts of things around
Speaker 2: each other. We had never worked together on anything, so
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, beyond set, it was like holy shit,
Speaker 2: like auctionnon too, this is this is great. I still
Speaker 2: was like, oh, it's a pilot, Like we'll do this
Speaker 2: pilot and then we'll you know, but hey, we got
Speaker 2: to do a pilot together. That's great, you know, yeah
Speaker 2: next year when we're doing you know, the fucking Prices
Speaker 2: right reboot.
Speaker 1: What was it like for you when you came back
Speaker 1: for like season five and I wasn't there was there
Speaker 1: anything weird on this set? Not to be all self consumed,
Speaker 1: but I'm just curious if it felt weird or if
Speaker 1: did because did Tiffany come on right after me?
Speaker 2: She came on right after you.
Speaker 1: In a way, it was almost like I lost my friend,
Speaker 1: but now my girlfriend's on the show.
Speaker 2: It was It was definitely weird, though, like it was
Speaker 2: for me. What was weird was like being in the
Speaker 2: hallways where you usually were and not seeing you, not
Speaker 2: seeing you in the makeup trailer, not like being on
Speaker 2: set because we talked about this before. We didn't have
Speaker 2: much stuff together on so they had a couple fun
Speaker 2: things for us here and there, like we would dance it,
Speaker 2: you know, the pool party or whatever. We would be
Speaker 2: off on the side doing that kind of stuff. Stuff
Speaker 2: honestly that I think you and I created more than
Speaker 2: was written.
Speaker 1: Like it was.
Speaker 2: We we just it was like oh there's a group
Speaker 2: of people. Okay, I'm gonna end up with Sham because
Speaker 2: I'd rather be over there. So we're gonna be here
Speaker 2: all day for the fucking party scene. But I remember
Speaker 2: it was the daily life, like getting a set, because
Speaker 2: we had a like a routine. After four fucking years,
Speaker 2: you have a routine. It's like you you get there,
Speaker 2: you know where everybody is, you know everybody hangs out,
Speaker 2: you know where like the spots are and the things,
Speaker 2: and so to get there and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it was like I would get to those places and
Speaker 2: you weren't there. It was fucking strange, like it was.
Speaker 2: It wasn't It wasn't so much. I didn't feel so
Speaker 2: much of the professional loss as I did the personal
Speaker 2: loss because it was just you were a part of
Speaker 2: that experience for me. You were a part of life there.
Speaker 2: So then when you weren't there, it was strange. It
Speaker 2: was like.
Speaker 1: Losing a pet.
Speaker 2: You know. It's like when you watch the other pets
Speaker 2: kind of come around, it's like there where Now what
Speaker 2: do we fucking do? You know? This is the one
Speaker 2: that we like followed and hung out with, and didn't
Speaker 2: you just compared to a pet. I didn't compare you
Speaker 2: to a pet, but I compared the loss of you
Speaker 2: for people that haven't lost a callag you at work.
Speaker 2: A lot of people have lost pets. I'm going to
Speaker 2: cut you off there, s because that's uh.
Speaker 1: But you know what was really cool was that when
Speaker 1: we did the reboot, I think we consciously decided that
Speaker 1: we wanted to actually work more together because we hadn't.
Speaker 2: We did.
Speaker 1: We pitched and they led us, so a lot of
Speaker 1: our stuff was just you and me, which was awesome.
Speaker 1: And again and we would do the improv and we
Speaker 1: would just go on tangents and play and have fun
Speaker 1: and be creative, and our sense of humors would compliment
Speaker 1: each other. And our wardrobe was super cool.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'll never I'll never forget the one scene
Speaker 2: we had that ended with you reading watermelon because they
Speaker 2: kept all of that in. I was shocked, Like it
Speaker 2: was the final episode. It was the party at at
Speaker 2: my house as we're picked up and you were reading watermelon,
Speaker 2: you offered me some. It was They kept like an
Speaker 2: extra two and a half minutes of us just fucking
Speaker 2: like riffing.
Speaker 1: And and that was pretty cool of them to keep
Speaker 1: it was great yeah. It was fun because you would
Speaker 1: think that they would have cut that and they don
Speaker 1: and it was it was and I and I loved
Speaker 1: that you were that through all of my like on
Speaker 1: camera eating scenes and it's finally in the last episode
Speaker 1: that you start partaking in the eating.
Speaker 2: I love that you told me early on though, you
Speaker 2: were like, so one of my choices is I'm going
Speaker 2: to eat in every scene. I was like, fucked, dope,
Speaker 2: I don't take the scene when you guys, when we
Speaker 2: were all up on stage singing with Ray and you
Speaker 2: were just like eating all the time. It was fine.
Speaker 1: It was so great and and everybody else was looking
Speaker 1: at me.
Speaker 2: Like, bananas, sandwiches, apple, you do whatever the fuck you
Speaker 2: could consume? Do it?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Somehow I picked skittles one day when
Speaker 1: we were all sitting around in the director's chairs for
Speaker 1: that scene, and I was so sick from the candy,
Speaker 1: and I didn't think that it would take that many takes,
Speaker 1: but it did, and I just had it. Oh god.
Speaker 1: That's that was the first time that I went maybe
Speaker 1: this eating thing is not totally I think I'm going
Speaker 1: to rethink this character episode eight, but I was happy
Speaker 1: with it again that was that was a really fun
Speaker 1: experience for me. I felt I felt super very free
Speaker 1: and like liberated from myself.
Speaker 2: Remember when we went and ate and at that Mexican
Speaker 2: restaurant and it was like a fucking twenty minute walk
Speaker 2: to get there, and like I remember just walking through
Speaker 2: the city and like looking at sty was. So it
Speaker 2: was so cool that way, because that is not we
Speaker 2: don't have time to do stuff like that. We don't
Speaker 2: have lives that support that type of behavior. But when
Speaker 2: you're in Vancouver, you're.
Speaker 1: Very good with getting out seeing a place, and I
Speaker 1: go into a self conscious mode and I hide. So
Speaker 1: I was hiding out in my hotel suite, and you
Speaker 1: were the one that all said called me, I'll be
Speaker 1: outside your hotel in five minutes, like we're going for
Speaker 1: a walk, we're going to go here, we're going to
Speaker 1: go do this. And you got me out and got
Speaker 1: me seeing things and yeah.
Speaker 2: And I've been there for like three weeks though before
Speaker 2: you got there, or two and a half weeks before
Speaker 2: you got there. So I like, for me, it was
Speaker 2: when you got there, I wanted you because I felt
Speaker 2: I mean, I felt a bit not responsible for you
Speaker 2: being there, but I really felt like you're here. I
Speaker 2: wanted to take care of you and make sure that
Speaker 2: you felt good and that you had a good experience
Speaker 2: in the city and that it was the best it
Speaker 2: could be, because like I talked you into a lot
Speaker 2: of this shit, Like I just was in your ear constantly,
Speaker 2: like come on, let's do this and it'll be fucking great,
Speaker 2: and you know you'll you'll love doing it.
Speaker 1: And also coming in two and a half weeks later
Speaker 1: is hard because everybody's established themselves. Yeah, you know, they've
Speaker 1: rented apartments right, you know, next door each other, so
Speaker 1: there's always there's there's already a click going on. And
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter that you're, however much older, you still
Speaker 1: get when it's time to get on that plane. And
Speaker 1: then when it's time to walk on that set and
Speaker 1: see everybody again, it's it's like massive butterflies in your stomach.
Speaker 1: But you didn't you you didn't once let me feel
Speaker 1: like I was out there by myself. You were very
Speaker 1: much shan, we're going here, we're going there, we're doing this.
Speaker 1: I never ate lunch by myself.
Speaker 2: And how crazy is it that the apartment that I
Speaker 2: had was not near anybody else's. It was I was
Speaker 2: in my own spot and I was literally like two
Speaker 2: blocks away from you, right, So it was like you
Speaker 2: got there and just that naturally happened, like it wasn't
Speaker 2: nobody planned for that because I don't know that city
Speaker 2: at all. People were like, where do you want to stay?
Speaker 2: I was like, I have no fucking where. I text Jason,
Speaker 2: I was like, where should I stay?
Speaker 1: I don't you know? What's the good area? It's a
Speaker 1: good spot. Your area. It was really good. That was
Speaker 1: Cole Harbor was Yeah, it's a really good good.
Speaker 2: The seawall and stuff there, because I would every morning
Speaker 2: get down to the seawall the path around on my
Speaker 2: electric skateboard and I just fucking go out. So then
Speaker 2: when you got there, it was all about like, come like,
Speaker 2: come with me on all this stuff. We're gonna walk
Speaker 2: the sea wall, we'll go to the restaurants, we'll go
Speaker 2: to the coffee shops, we'll do the things. And it
Speaker 2: was fucking great. It was. I'd so I had so
Speaker 2: much fun doing that with you. I'm so glad that
Speaker 2: you were out there in.
Speaker 1: The meet too. Thank you what I thought if you weren't.
Speaker 1: Thank you for like being in my ear and making
Speaker 1: me get past myself and doing it because I it
Speaker 1: was an awesome, awesome experience. I'm so happy I did it.
Speaker 1: Like really, looking back, I'm like that was that was
Speaker 1: just an awesome experience and and did so much for me.
Speaker 1: And it's exactly what I needed because I'd just been
Speaker 1: diagnosed with stage four like February, I guess or something, Yeah,
Speaker 1: February towards the end of February. So to have that distraction,
Speaker 1: to have something going on, and to at least for
Speaker 1: six episodes, think that you're going to have a job
Speaker 1: and that cancer isn't going to impact your career and
Speaker 1: nobody's going to want to hire you. It was really nice.
Speaker 1: And then to be able to hang out with you
Speaker 1: and have fun and play characters that we got to
Speaker 1: essentially develop, and it was just overall really awesome experience,
Speaker 1: one that I loved. So thank you. I think I
Speaker 1: think I think I've asked you everything that I would
Speaker 1: want to ask you. And also aren't we supposed to
Speaker 1: do yours right now? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So for people that don't know, yeah, we're doing two
Speaker 2: episodes today.
Speaker 1: It's fun.
Speaker 2: So I'm on your podcast and then you get to
Speaker 2: come over to my world.
Speaker 1: Which is awesome because I love Your Guys podcast and
Speaker 1: I haven't seen Randy in forever.
Speaker 2: He's so excited to talk to you.
Speaker 1: I am so excited too. And then obviously you know
Speaker 1: that I love Sharana, So I'm I feel like I've
Speaker 1: now been doing this podcast thing for a while. I
Speaker 1: haven't really, but it feels like it. So to be
Speaker 1: on the other end of being on your Guys podcast,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really cool. You know what's funny.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about when I remember when I talked
Speaker 2: to you before I had the uh like the documentary,
Speaker 2: the idea, and you were like, I don't want to
Speaker 2: fucking talk about nine O two one.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't want to rehash any of that shit. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Cut to now we're on each other's podcasts, and literally
Speaker 2: we've been talking about nine O two one.
Speaker 1: Oh. I know, I know, I do remember that. You
Speaker 1: know what.
Speaker 2: It's fucking cathartic, man. It's like, I strongly SI just
Speaker 2: to people that went through any sort of traumatic experience
Speaker 2: earlier on and are trying to avoid that and not
Speaker 2: dredge that up, and feel like, oh, maybe if I
Speaker 2: just bury it and I forget that it was there,
Speaker 2: it'll be better for me fucking get out and talk
Speaker 2: about it. We're totally different people, you know than when
Speaker 2: we did the show.
Speaker 1: And going through divorces, which both of us have gone Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's you can go through a
Speaker 1: divorce and either feel anger, resentment, or whatever. My case,
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of other emotions and you can sweep
Speaker 1: that under the rug or you can deal with it.
Speaker 1: And by talking about it, you learn so much about
Speaker 1: yourself in the process, and you also learn so much
Speaker 1: about what other people that are in your life thought
Speaker 1: of you and of that during that time, and so
Speaker 1: they get to voice what they saw, what their concerns were,
Speaker 1: you get to deal with that. It is very cathartic.
Speaker 2: It is uh, just not letting life break you. It's
Speaker 2: you know, when shit comes up, just fucking like take it,
Speaker 2: take it on head on and fucking stand tough and
Speaker 2: stand proud and stand tall, and you'll be fine. You'll
Speaker 2: be okay. Like shit fucking hurts and shit sucks, but
Speaker 2: you'll be okay. Just stick with it, right, see it through,
Speaker 2: because there's a there's always something at the other end
Speaker 2: of it. Always there's no way to avoid that really.
Speaker 1: About coming in the resolution, because in order to get
Speaker 1: past it, you have to resolve it. And so if
Speaker 1: you resolve it and you're able to resolve it with
Speaker 1: peace within yourself and maybe with others, sometimes there is
Speaker 1: no peace with other people, but you can still find
Speaker 1: the peace within yourself and give yourself the grace and
Speaker 1: move on. It's so much healthier and you feel way lighter,
Speaker 1: way lighter. Yeah. So I'm going to call everybody now
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, thank you so much for getting
Speaker 1: me fired.
Speaker 2: Right, Hey, so I really wanted to talk to you
Speaker 2: about that conversation that was had thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: That for you than that, Yeah, Like I haven't thanked you,
Speaker 1: and I haven't really heard how traumatic that must have
Speaker 1: been for you. So if you can share that with me,
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you for a minute. Okay, I want
Speaker 1: to know what you.
Speaker 2: Felt during that thing.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's a good one, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Shan, come on over. I'll sorry over on Oldish.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll see you over there.
Speaker 2: I love you.
Speaker 1: I love you too.
Speaker 2: Fe