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Speaker 1: This is let's be clear with Shannon Dorny that last

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Speaker 1: going to flash to then us doing the reboot, okay,

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Speaker 1: because because as you know, and as some people may know,

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Speaker 1: I did not want to do it. Yeah, I wasn't

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Speaker 1: going to do our own show, and we had a

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Speaker 1: really the one. I was still sitting on the fence.

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Speaker 1: And you're really the one that said to me, and

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Speaker 2: Now again at Luke's wake at the house, we were

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Speaker 2: I remember the conversation when that came up.

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Speaker 1: But you were the only one who knew that I

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Speaker 1: had cancer, that it had come back, and then it

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Speaker 1: the main reason, next to besides Luke, that I did

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Speaker 1: happy I did it because you know, you had your

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Speaker 1: And we would talk about the scripts and you would

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Speaker 1: going to improv. We're just gonna improv. And we.

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Speaker 2: Trailer with the candles and the whole thing, like improv

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Speaker 1: We did improve the entire thing. That was amazing, and

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Speaker 2: I look back on the reboot, it's such a great

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna enjoy it. And we enjoyed each other's

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Speaker 2: like it was. I gloved that experience. There were there

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Speaker 2: were parts of it that fucking sucked, of course. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So but that's that's gonna happen. Nice, That's gonna fucking

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Speaker 2: I always I always tell people, like one of the mantras,

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Speaker 2: this before is who I choose to be while living life,

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Speaker 2: because life fucking does this. It has a substance downs,

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Speaker 2: who do I want to fucking be during all of this?

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Speaker 2: because if things are going great, I'm super nice, and

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Speaker 2: You know, if somebody's saying shitty things to me in

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Speaker 1: Well, because then you can be proud of yourself, right

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Speaker 1: And I think for me, Charmed was the only show

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Speaker 1: I think nine which you want to know, everything does

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Speaker 2: The seawall and stuff there, because I would every morning

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Speaker 2: get down to the seawall the path around on my

437
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 2: electric skateboard and I just fucking go out. So then

438
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 2: when you got there, it was all about like, come like,

439
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: come with me on all this stuff. We're gonna walk

440
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Speaker 2: the sea wall, we'll go to the restaurants, we'll go

441
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Speaker 2: to the coffee shops, we'll do the things. And it

442
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 2: was fucking great. It was. I'd so I had so

443
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Speaker 2: much fun doing that with you. I'm so glad that

444
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Speaker 2: you were out there in.

445
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: The meet too. Thank you what I thought if you weren't.

446
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: Thank you for like being in my ear and making

447
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Speaker 1: me get past myself and doing it because I it

448
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: was an awesome, awesome experience. I'm so happy I did it.

449
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: Like really, looking back, I'm like that was that was

450
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: just an awesome experience and and did so much for me.

451
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 1: And it's exactly what I needed because I'd just been

452
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Speaker 1: diagnosed with stage four like February, I guess or something, Yeah,

453
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: February towards the end of February. So to have that distraction,

454
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: to have something going on, and to at least for

455
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Speaker 1: six episodes, think that you're going to have a job

456
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 1: and that cancer isn't going to impact your career and

457
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Speaker 1: nobody's going to want to hire you. It was really nice.

458
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Speaker 1: And then to be able to hang out with you

459
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: and have fun and play characters that we got to

460
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Speaker 1: essentially develop, and it was just overall really awesome experience,

461
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Speaker 1: one that I loved. So thank you. I think I

462
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: think I think I've asked you everything that I would

463
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: want to ask you. And also aren't we supposed to

464
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: do yours right now? Yeah?

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00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: So for people that don't know, yeah, we're doing two

466
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Speaker 2: episodes today.

467
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: It's fun.

468
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: So I'm on your podcast and then you get to

469
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 2: come over to my world.

470
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: Which is awesome because I love Your Guys podcast and

471
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: I haven't seen Randy in forever.

472
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: He's so excited to talk to you.

473
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: I am so excited too. And then obviously you know

474
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: that I love Sharana, So I'm I feel like I've

475
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: now been doing this podcast thing for a while. I

476
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: haven't really, but it feels like it. So to be

477
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: on the other end of being on your Guys podcast,

478
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be really cool. You know what's funny.

479
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Speaker 2: I was thinking about when I remember when I talked

480
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Speaker 2: to you before I had the uh like the documentary,

481
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Speaker 2: the idea, and you were like, I don't want to

482
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Speaker 2: fucking talk about nine O two one.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't want to rehash any of that shit. Yeah.

484
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: Cut to now we're on each other's podcasts, and literally

485
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: we've been talking about nine O two one.

486
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Speaker 1: Oh. I know, I know, I do remember that. You

487
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: know what.

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Speaker 2: It's fucking cathartic, man. It's like, I strongly SI just

489
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: to people that went through any sort of traumatic experience

490
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: earlier on and are trying to avoid that and not

491
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: dredge that up, and feel like, oh, maybe if I

492
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 2: just bury it and I forget that it was there,

493
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 2: it'll be better for me fucking get out and talk

494
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: about it. We're totally different people, you know than when

495
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: we did the show.

496
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: And going through divorces, which both of us have gone Yeah, yeah,

497
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's you can go through a

498
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: divorce and either feel anger, resentment, or whatever. My case,

499
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of other emotions and you can sweep

500
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: that under the rug or you can deal with it.

501
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: And by talking about it, you learn so much about

502
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: yourself in the process, and you also learn so much

503
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: about what other people that are in your life thought

504
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: of you and of that during that time, and so

505
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: they get to voice what they saw, what their concerns were,

506
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: you get to deal with that. It is very cathartic.

507
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: It is uh, just not letting life break you. It's

508
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 2: you know, when shit comes up, just fucking like take it,

509
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 2: take it on head on and fucking stand tough and

510
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 2: stand proud and stand tall, and you'll be fine. You'll

511
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: be okay. Like shit fucking hurts and shit sucks, but

512
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: you'll be okay. Just stick with it, right, see it through,

513
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: because there's a there's always something at the other end

514
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: of it. Always there's no way to avoid that really.

515
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: About coming in the resolution, because in order to get

516
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: past it, you have to resolve it. And so if

517
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: you resolve it and you're able to resolve it with

518
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: peace within yourself and maybe with others, sometimes there is

519
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: no peace with other people, but you can still find

520
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: the peace within yourself and give yourself the grace and

521
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: move on. It's so much healthier and you feel way lighter,

522
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: way lighter. Yeah. So I'm going to call everybody now

523
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, thank you so much for getting

524
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: me fired.

525
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: Right, Hey, so I really wanted to talk to you

526
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: about that conversation that was had thirty years ago.

527
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: That for you than that, Yeah, Like I haven't thanked you,

528
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: and I haven't really heard how traumatic that must have

529
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: been for you. So if you can share that with me,

530
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you for a minute. Okay, I want

531
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: to know what you.

532
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: Felt during that thing.

533
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's a good one, all.

534
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: Right, Shan, come on over. I'll sorry over on Oldish.

535
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll see you over there.

536
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: I love you.

537
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: I love you too.

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Speaker 2: Fe