WEBVTT - Cheech Would Never: "Lucky" Luke Brugnara

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Saron, Hey Elizabeth, how are you good?

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<v Speaker 3>I was just sitting over here watching Smoking in the

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<v Speaker 3>Bandit Too, which is just the worst movie. And I

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<v Speaker 3>love the Smoking the Bandit series, but it's such a

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<v Speaker 3>cash grab. Oh my god, it's so bad. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just terrible. But I love it for how terrible

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<v Speaker 3>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that for you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I was doing. How are you been?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good? Good is yeahm hm yeah. Do you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 3>I do, Elizabeth?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember? I'm not sure if you were into

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<v Speaker 3>this because it's a you know, I think it's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the things like you usually need cousins or like

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<v Speaker 3>some friends, and you apparently neither. So the easy bake oven? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>did you ever play with an easy bake oven?

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<v Speaker 2>I had a classmate who had one. I went to house.

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<v Speaker 2>This is basically like you stick batter under a light bulb.

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<v Speaker 3>An actual incandescent light bulb, but that was the heating element,

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<v Speaker 3>and you pull out this like undercooked cake or like

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<v Speaker 3>under cookies, and then the kids would eat them while

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<v Speaker 3>their parents were like, look at that. They're like a

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<v Speaker 3>little adults.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was. I wanted one, and my mom and

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<v Speaker 2>my grandmar are like, we have an oven, what's wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with you?

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<v Speaker 3>It was a huge It's in the Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 3>of Toys, Like, even though it made really bad cake

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<v Speaker 3>and cookies, people loved it and apparently get this, Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 3>I got good news for you. You can get your own

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<v Speaker 3>because it's back.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it now?

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<v Speaker 3>I swear to god? Has Bro brought it back? And

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<v Speaker 3>they have this They just brought one out at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of last year and it was the hit of

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<v Speaker 3>apparently the holiday season. It was only available from Walmart

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<v Speaker 3>and it sold out.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it have AI?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it doesn't have AI, but it interesting. They did

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<v Speaker 3>update it with quote new retro modern style, colorful sprinkle lights,

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<v Speaker 3>a built in timer, upgraded baking tools, and new mixes

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<v Speaker 3>featuring updated flavors. If you're wondering about the heating element,

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<v Speaker 3>they actually they don't use an incandescent light bulb anymore

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<v Speaker 3>because you can't buy them right Hoast in California. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know about the rest to the country, but we

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't have them, and they have a miniature heating element,

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<v Speaker 3>so I imagine it's like a coil of some kind.

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<v Speaker 3>So there you go, and it's like almost like forty

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<v Speaker 3>five bucks at Walmart, they're sold out. You're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>to wait. You're dropping, is thought because you like cooking.

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<v Speaker 2>I have then died a few months ago, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I got a new one.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it easy bake?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, I got a new one.

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome. Is it one of those like induction and

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<v Speaker 3>everything everything itself? Yeah, it tells you its own name.

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<v Speaker 2>Is zaps. My Apple preheating is done a super smartphone.

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<v Speaker 2>I do. I just don't care anymore. I'll just hook

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<v Speaker 2>everything up to everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Your car, text you, your text, yure, my washing, text you.

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<v Speaker 3>Your life is foreign to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's so great. I feel like I'm in the

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<v Speaker 2>jetson You're somewhere. And then meanwhile, like LG is going through.

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<v Speaker 3>My phone with it's like AI agent my.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? Who cares? I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care anymore about anything.

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<v Speaker 2>No, really, there's no such thing as privacy. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Do whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Money's a lie. There's no such thing as privacy.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's everything's in a lab.

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<v Speaker 3>I tell no one my real name.

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<v Speaker 2>It's well, do you want to know what else is ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 2>I do messing with the fish. Oh, this is Ridiculous Crime,

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<v Speaker 2>a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists, and cons.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always ninety nine percent murder free and one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn right, Oh gosh, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Every now and then when we stumble upon a crimer

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<v Speaker 2>who is so perfect for this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>It hurts a poster child.

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<v Speaker 2>IY so someone who embodies all the best parts of

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<v Speaker 2>the crimes and the criminals that we love. And today

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<v Speaker 2>I have that for you. Yes, this has San Francisco

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<v Speaker 2>art crime, prison escapes, casinos, courtroom drama, beach fights, and

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<v Speaker 2>trout fraud. What I could weep?

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<v Speaker 3>That last one?

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<v Speaker 2>He could weep. I've been at a real funk lately,

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<v Speaker 2>like clinically funky, and this story, this criminal has lifted

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<v Speaker 2>my dark mood like you wouldn't believe.

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<v Speaker 3>George Clinton, he re enlivened your funk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes he did, he really did. It's like the universe

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<v Speaker 2>saw my plight, saw that my light had gone out,

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<v Speaker 2>and said, not so fast, lady host. Help is on

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<v Speaker 2>the way, so let's get right to this. This guy

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<v Speaker 2>is named Luke Brugnara, Luke Brugnara. Yeah, he says. He's

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<v Speaker 2>often called Lucky Luke because he was so lucky in

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<v Speaker 2>business in life. That was just like when I told

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<v Speaker 2>people I have him and called Dizzy. Yes, very much.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to be very careful when you try

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<v Speaker 2>and give yourself a nickname. He has a website, Brugnaracorp

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. Naturally, please indulge me while I read to

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<v Speaker 2>you from his bio on there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I love this, go please.

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<v Speaker 2>Luke is a fourth generation San Franciscan, growing up in

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<v Speaker 2>the Sunset District, attending Holy Name Grammar School, where he

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<v Speaker 2>was student council and editor of the newspaper in yearbook,

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<v Speaker 2>which Luke began for Holy Name School and then attended

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Ignatius Preparatory for High School, where Luke competed in track,

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<v Speaker 2>setting records in the long jump which stand today. Luke

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<v Speaker 2>won the Jesse Owens National Invitational in Houston at thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>years old and Los Angeles fourteen years old, jumping seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>feet six inches and twenty one feet, respectively, winning the

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<v Speaker 2>national championships. Luke also set the national accuracy fly casting

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<v Speaker 2>record for the American Casting Association at fourteen years old

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<v Speaker 2>in Columbus, Ohio, casting a perfect score one hundred in

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<v Speaker 2>the fly accuracy, which still stands today as the national record.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe any of this. Wait, I mean some

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<v Speaker 3>of the early details, but twenty one feet at fourteen

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<v Speaker 3>years old is ridiculous as a long jumper, one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>percent ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, this is a grown man on his

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<v Speaker 2>corporation's website is telling us all the things he did

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<v Speaker 2>as a child.

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<v Speaker 3>Child and making them up or exaggerating.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody care. Yeah, so, I mean, I could honestly read

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing, but let me paraphrase some other highlights.

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<v Speaker 2>He went to San Diego State. Okay, he ran track

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<v Speaker 2>there and was amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Naturally, I was gonna ask.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, he went to San Francisco Law School.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't set more records in his Oh no, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like it was amazing and he was too good

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<v Speaker 2>for the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they wouldn't let him compete anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's too good. You got to get off the track.

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<v Speaker 3>Let someone else shine by.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't go to u S University of San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 2>or like UCS San Francisco, which used to be called Hastings.

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<v Speaker 2>He went to San Francisco Law School, and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>accredited by the American bars near that. Yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>California bar. Pass rate is pretty dismal, okay, but it

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<v Speaker 2>does have other interesting alums.

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<v Speaker 3>It does exist.

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<v Speaker 2>It does exist. Oscar Zeta Acosta, the inspiration for doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Gonzo in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. He went there.

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<v Speaker 2>The Buffalo former California Governor Pat Brown, father of governor

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<v Speaker 2>and all around awesome guy Jerry Brown. His dad went

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<v Speaker 2>there and Charles Gary. Now, if you ever have the

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<v Speaker 2>desire to go down a rabbit hole, he's worth looking into.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a documentary about him a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>He was an Armenian guy who was chief counsel for

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<v Speaker 2>the Black Panthers and a bunch of other really like

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<v Speaker 2>famous and infamous groups. You're super interesting guy. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 2>Charles Gary was Garabedian. Okay, Yeah, he changed it anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where Luke went to law school. He worked

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<v Speaker 2>as an investment banker after graduating. I don't think he

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<v Speaker 2>passed the bar took the bar, maybe because the California

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<v Speaker 2>Bar has no record of him when I ran this yet.

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<v Speaker 3>He went into em and a Elizabeth all that mergers next.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, still going to put us the bar for that one.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen ninety he married his college girlfriend and in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety two he formed the Brugnara Corporation. He has

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<v Speaker 2>four kids, Luke.

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<v Speaker 3>The second, Lucky Luke Jr.

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<v Speaker 2>Vincent, Lauren, and Brianna, and according to the website, the

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<v Speaker 2>boys are also involved in the business. How up to

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<v Speaker 2>date is the website?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me give you some more direct quotes from his website.

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<v Speaker 2>This is so good. Luke has royal lineage with Habsburg

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<v Speaker 2>bloodline on both his mother's and father's side, so.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like Habsburg double.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Cannibal Brugnara. Luke's great grandfather times four

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<v Speaker 2>was the Archduke of the Habsburg Holy Roman Empire from

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen sixty to seventeen ninety six. On his mother's side,

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<v Speaker 2>Pelais Gris di Mehramon, Luke's great grandparents were the Marquess

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<v Speaker 2>and Marquessa of Catalonia Barcelona in the seventeenth to early

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<v Speaker 2>twentieth century. It was a long they lived a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like biblical years. Yeah, like the biblical aufurs Luke.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll continue. Luke was bestowed honorary thirty third degree by

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<v Speaker 2>Sovereign Grand Commander of the Freemasons, Henry Clawson in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety three. Luke's maternal great grandfather times two is Alexander Morrison,

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<v Speaker 2>founder of the venerable law firm Morrison Forrester, who was

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<v Speaker 2>a San Francisco civic luminarian judge who endowed the Academy

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<v Speaker 2>of Sciences Morrison Planetarium and UC Berkeley Library Morrison Library.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a fun fact about Morrison Forrester. Please everyone refers

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<v Speaker 2>to it as MOFO. Yeah, Ley lean in to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Their website is even mofo dot com. Yeah. So there's more.

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<v Speaker 2>This will be important later.

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<v Speaker 3>It was important to me then.

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<v Speaker 2>Luke and his family have lived in Seacliff for the

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<v Speaker 2>past twenty one years and Las Vegas. Luke purchased his

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<v Speaker 2>Seacliff estate from Cheech Marin in two thousand. Luke leased

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<v Speaker 2>his twenty five thousand square foot Las Vegas mansion to

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jackson in two thousand and eight for a million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars for six months. Luke's house was the largest home

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<v Speaker 2>in Las Vegas at that time like this is everything

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<v Speaker 2>is the best, the biggest, the most expensive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well familiar, it's it's like an eleven year old

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<v Speaker 3>Lyne to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly exactly so for those not the know, Seacliff

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<v Speaker 2>is a neighborhood in San Francisco. It's west of the Presidio,

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<v Speaker 2>right on the Pacific Ocean, just outside the Golden Gate

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<v Speaker 2>And in fact most homes there have views of the

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<v Speaker 2>Golden Gate bridge, but looking at it into the bay,

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<v Speaker 2>not the other way around us. Your magnificent, beautiful and

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<v Speaker 2>Cheech Marin, of course, is the actor slash comedian best

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<v Speaker 2>known as one half of Cheech and Chong.

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<v Speaker 3>And then also Nash Bridge for his work.

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<v Speaker 2>On Nash Bridges, set in San Francisco, which you were

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<v Speaker 2>familiar with. Personal used to heckle them and I could

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<v Speaker 2>see them, so I think I've told this here he may.

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<v Speaker 2>When I would see him and Don Johnson filming on

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<v Speaker 2>the streets, I would yell dad to Don Johnson. And

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<v Speaker 2>it happened a lot, and it really.

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<v Speaker 3>Annoyed him, but it made Cheach smile. She thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was funny, like this is a comedian.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the fifth or sixth time that it happened over

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<v Speaker 2>the course of like months. Dad, No over, Dad, please

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<v Speaker 2>this no, look this way, I'm here anyway, this time

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<v Speaker 2>I miss you. So Cheech's place in Seacliff was right

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<v Speaker 2>on the water, and in fact there's this crazy zigzagging

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<v Speaker 2>steep stairway down said cliff to the water below. You

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<v Speaker 2>can check the house out on Zillow two to two

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<v Speaker 2>four Seacliff Avenue. Look, the stairway I mentioned is illegal,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, never got permits. I don't think Cheech

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<v Speaker 2>was the one who.

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<v Speaker 3>Put it in, probably not probably, I think he does.

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<v Speaker 2>Things on the up and up. So how did we

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<v Speaker 2>get here? How did Luke become Lucky Luke? Let's go

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<v Speaker 2>back to nineteen ninety three, Oh, back when he became Amazon.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when Luke bought a note for one point five

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars in bankruptcy court for the Cress Building at

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<v Speaker 2>nine to three to nine Market Street in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 2>It was originally the Pantagious Theater in the consideration, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it became a Crest department store.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>What it was when Luke picked it up. Offices maybe Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>he foreclosed on the former owner then got a three

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<v Speaker 2>million dollar loan using the note, which made him one

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<v Speaker 2>point five million upon clothes at Escrow, and he just

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<v Speaker 2>kept buying buildings Downtownsco.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So in nineteen ninety five he bought seven three five

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<v Speaker 2>Market Street. I used to work next door when Mother

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<v Speaker 2>Jones was located at seven three one Market. That's another

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<v Speaker 2>fun fact for you. So he bought seven three five

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<v Speaker 2>Market for two point four million dollars and sold it

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<v Speaker 2>two years later for five point two five million to

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<v Speaker 2>get in this credit, Heidi prophet, I don't know, he

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<v Speaker 2>told SF Gate quote. The plan is to keep buying.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm only thirty two years old, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>buy as many properties as i can in the Central

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<v Speaker 2>Business District in downtown San Francisco for as.

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<v Speaker 3>Long as I can.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, We're going to run out of buildings, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>till I own everything. So he's thirty two years old

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<v Speaker 2>and he owns five hundred thousand square feet of office

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<v Speaker 2>space in the city.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's incredible, it's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that he was worth one hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and that he amassed it in just four years.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's back when you wanted office space.

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<v Speaker 2>In downtown share then there was a high demand, not

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<v Speaker 2>like No. What's interesting too, is he has all this

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<v Speaker 2>royal lineage, he says, but his was like a supervisor

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<v Speaker 2>at juvenile Hall, so he didn't come from money.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I was wondering where the credit line.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, maybe his freemason friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps. According to sf Gate quote Brugnar's strategy quote, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going after any deal that's available because there's not much

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<v Speaker 2>money available right now for borrowers. And I'm in a

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<v Speaker 2>good position because I don't have anyone to answer to.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, I surround myself with the best people to

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<v Speaker 2>help me make the right decision.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like a shock I sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>But things weren't always on the up and up.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it seems so on the straight and narrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. In two thousand, he had to pay more than

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollars in fines and penalties for letting tenants

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<v Speaker 2>at the Post Street Medical and dental building he owned

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<v Speaker 2>illegally disposed of syringes and gauze pads like they're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be sealed and locked away before being removed by

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<v Speaker 2>a licensed biohazardous waste disposal company.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, look, there's holes in the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>Just throw it in the regular trash.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not paying, are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was in the building. It was like,

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<v Speaker 3>make it the trash in the dumpsters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, make make the needles the trash guys problem. According

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<v Speaker 2>to SFGate quote, Brignara had argued in court that city

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<v Speaker 2>officials were unfairly targeting him after he made unflattering comments

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<v Speaker 2>about them in a San Francisco magazine.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's just done right there, That's what the judge.

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<v Speaker 2>Was not buying it, and he's like, that's just done

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<v Speaker 2>right there, he said.

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<v Speaker 3>As he's done right there.

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<v Speaker 2>He said Brugnara had quote no credibility, and this testimony

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<v Speaker 2>must be quote rejected in its entirety as being untrustworthy

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<v Speaker 2>with the judge. Yeah, he's just not having it. In

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety nine, Luke tried to get into the casino business.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, he bought the Silver City Casino on the

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<v Speaker 2>Strip in Las Vegas. It's a couple of blocks down

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<v Speaker 2>from Circus Circus. Okay, he paid thirty one and a

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<v Speaker 2>half million dollars for the building. Did he get the

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<v Speaker 2>casino or just the hotel? Well, he got the he

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<v Speaker 2>got the both.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole thing, okay, and it was I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a full hotel. It was like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was more of a locals place, okay. Mandalay Resort

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<v Speaker 2>Group was leasing the space at the time, and then

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<v Speaker 2>Luke took it over, but he didn't have a gaming license,

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<v Speaker 2>so the place closed down on Halloween nineteen ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 2>All one hundred and fifty employees found themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of work. You would you get that first, because like.

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<v Speaker 2>Luke, he applied for a gaming license in August of

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety nine, but he was still undergoing a pre

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<v Speaker 2>licensing investigation.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so No Casino.

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<v Speaker 3>Nevada takes that stuff seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted to redo the whole thing anyway. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to tear this thing down. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>build a San Francisco themed resort on this property.

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<v Speaker 3>No one wants.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, there was already a Walgreen. No, no one wants that.

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<v Speaker 2>There was already a Walgreens on the property that he'd

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<v Speaker 2>have to build around for some reason. Yeah, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>everything is locked up inside of it. But he thought

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<v Speaker 2>he'd have everything running up by like two thousand and two.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, so three years here's the thing. The Nevada

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<v Speaker 2>Gaming Commission denied his gaming license in a unanimous decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Las Vegas Sun newspaper, one of the best to ever

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<v Speaker 2>do it. Quote. Major concerns were poor financial record keeping,

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<v Speaker 2>allegations Brugnara had failed to file tax returns with the

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<v Speaker 2>Internal Revenue Service from nineteen ninety two to nineteen ninety six,

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<v Speaker 2>run ins with San Francisco City regulators over alleged building

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<v Speaker 2>code violations, and issues from Brugnara's personal life, particularly on

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<v Speaker 2>allegations that Brugnara had made several death threats to associates

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<v Speaker 2>and government officials.

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<v Speaker 3>Death threats. Yeah, I like, how like they dug everywhere

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<v Speaker 3>that they wouldn't look downy play I serious, but I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really just so investigated. That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>So Luke was like, you know what, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>sue you. Of course, must sue you, sue me, sue you.

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<v Speaker 3>His settlement is like, you'll give me the license.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he said he talked to Joe Alioto and I've

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned him on here before, former San Francisco mayor, big

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<v Speaker 2>time lawyer.

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<v Speaker 3>Tough guy, totally had the office in North Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so San Francisco Italian American to San Francisco Italian American.

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<v Speaker 2>These two guys I started talking. Joe said he thought

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<v Speaker 2>Luke had a case. At least that's what Luke was

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<v Speaker 2>telling people. Look, Joe Alioto said, I got this. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't sue, but he did try again. And I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you have to wait a year before reapplying. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you get denied, you almost never get it on subsequent attempts.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's uimous, unanimous and this stuff that you can't

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<v Speaker 2>like explain or erase.

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<v Speaker 3>No, And they wouldn't have replaced that many in the

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<v Speaker 3>commission that quick now, so they're like, didn't we already

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<v Speaker 3>do this?

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<v Speaker 2>You're wasting my time exactly. So he sold the casino

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<v Speaker 2>and the surrounding property in two thousand and two. The

0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:35.960
<v Speaker 2>new owners tore everything down and built a ross dress

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<v Speaker 2>for less. They paved paradise, put up a dress for less.

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<v Speaker 3>My mother would be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is around the time that Luke bought Cheech's house. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>when he bought it, he got a glimpse of Cheech's

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<v Speaker 2>art collection. Like Maren, is a serious collector. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>he has one of the largest and most important private

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<v Speaker 2>collections of Chicano art anywhere in the world, more than

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred pieces, and he loans it out for exhibition

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<v Speaker 2>and he actually now has pledged it to the cheech

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<v Speaker 2>Marin Center for Chicano Arts and Culture in Riverside, Colugne,

0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.600
<v Speaker 2>the great museum there. Yeah. So he has absolutely incredible

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<v Speaker 2>pieces and one that stood out at the Seacliff home

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<v Speaker 2>is this huge, breathtaking painting by Diego Rivera. Oh nice

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<v Speaker 2>so Brugnara. He sees all this impressive art work, he

0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.119
<v Speaker 2>wants it for himself, naturally, not that work though, like

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<v Speaker 2>instead of Chicano art, he started collecting more of the

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<v Speaker 2>old masters. From a Forbes article, quote, though Maren's taste

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<v Speaker 2>ran to twentieth century Latin American artist like Diego Rivera,

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<v Speaker 2>Brugnara prefers the pure a political craftsmanship of sixteenth and

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<v Speaker 2>seventeenth century painters. And so you know, he goes on

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<v Speaker 2>to tell Forbes that he finds great value in portraits

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<v Speaker 2>of Jesus. Oh, and this is what he said to

0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Forbes magazine quote, most of the great dealers are Jewish.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a bad thing, but it's a fact, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not their top priority to promote Jesus Christ. What

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<v Speaker 2>the I don't even know what to do with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I as I always like to say, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just going to leave it lay where Jesus flaying it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Yeah, that's what we're going to do

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<v Speaker 2>with that. So two thousand and three, Brugnara bought a

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<v Speaker 2>painting Christ carrying the Cross for five hundred thousand dollars

0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:26.720
<v Speaker 2>and it was supposed to have been painted by this

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<v Speaker 2>minor Renaissance artist named gian Francesco d Mainieri. Luke didn't

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<v Speaker 2>accept that. He was like, you know what, that looks

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<v Speaker 2>like a Da Vinci to me. Yes, yeah, right, A

0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:44.040
<v Speaker 2>lot of the Ninja Turtles did this one. So Christie's,

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<v Speaker 2>the auction house that sold it to him, was like, well,

0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:49.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, if you really think it's a Leonardo, reach

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<v Speaker 2>out to a very well respected Italian guy. We know.

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<v Speaker 2>He's seventy five years old, retired Professor's name's Carlo Pedretti.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a Leonardo expert Florence.

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<v Speaker 3>Great guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And like when he saw what Luke had, he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little interested in this. In fact, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>little familiar. He's like, there are three others just like

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<v Speaker 2>it that I think might be the work of like

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<v Speaker 2>one of Leonardo's studio assistants. Maybe Leonardo, but probably yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like the backup Mona Lisa. Luke is stoked. He's so

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<v Speaker 2>fired up, so he hires Padretti to do research to

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<v Speaker 2>back it all up, and he sends him a check

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<v Speaker 2>for five grand. But then Luke finds out that even

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<v Speaker 2>the hint of Leonardo, not even like confirmation of it,

0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:33.120
<v Speaker 2>could drive the price up. So Pedretti. He's on vacation

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<v Speaker 2>during the summer and not working fast enough for Luke's taste. So,

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<v Speaker 2>according to Forbes quote, he decided he didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>wait for Padretti's opinion and stop payment.

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<v Speaker 3>On the check.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, I'm gonna say he sold it. No, He's like, stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Payment because he wants to go sell it. So, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>The Brugnaro Corporation website says the company owns quote a

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<v Speaker 2>significant fine art collection, including old masters Raphael Caravaggio, Da Vinci,

0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:05.640
<v Speaker 2>del Sarto, Tish and Rubens, modern and impressionist Picasso, Van Dojen, Soutine, Monet,

0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:10.520
<v Speaker 2>des Ga and Sizon. It's contemporary Pollock, Warhol, Liechtenstein, decooning

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:15.399
<v Speaker 2>Helmmen and Ramos. They also say that Leonardo da Vinci's

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<v Speaker 2>Christ Carrying the Cross circa. Fifteen hundred is valued at

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<v Speaker 2>over one billion dollars one billion. Brugnar Corporation's fine art

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<v Speaker 2>collection is valued at over three billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>The one billion would be a record, Like that's double

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<v Speaker 3>the most expensive Leonardo painting.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, yes, that was then? Yeah, like how does he?

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<v Speaker 3>Who did he think?

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<v Speaker 2>He's lying to himself? Probably so who knows. Let's take

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<v Speaker 2>a break and upon our return we're gonna up the

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<v Speaker 2>legal ante.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, zaren I loving dumb people. Lie, this is so good.

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:11.720
<v Speaker 2>It's so good because it's just like, no, keep going?

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:15.639
<v Speaker 2>What else? They were three trillion dollars? How about that?

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Is that what you're your sofa is worth? Okay? So

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and eight was rough on a lot of people.

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 2>There was that whole financial crisis thing, like thanks subprime mortgages,

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 2>thanks derivatives. Two thousand and eight was rough for Luke Brugnara,

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 2>but not for those reasons, although I'm guessing his finances

0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 2>and his real estate didn't have too smooth a ride. No,

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and eight is when things started to catch

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<v Speaker 2>up with him. We always say that you shouldn't lie

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<v Speaker 2>to the FBI.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yes, we do.

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:47.760
<v Speaker 2>You also shouldn't lie to the I R S.

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:49.359
<v Speaker 3>Another good one not to lie to.

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Luke lied to the I R S. Oh yeah, he

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 2>caught three counts.

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 3>The irony of that is, they'll refer you to the FBI.

0:23:56.680 --> 0:24:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. He caught three counts in April two thousand and

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:03.800
<v Speaker 2>eight for filing false income tax returns back in two thousand,

0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and one, two thousand and two. Remember he

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 2>went a stretch without filing at all because he had

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 2>all those properties. Remember in those three years two thousand

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:15.959
<v Speaker 2>through two thousand and two, he sold a bunch of properties,

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:19.159
<v Speaker 2>and on each sale he made a profit, and he

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 2>neglected to report those gains on his federal income tax.

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh so he was filing at this point and then

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.360
<v Speaker 3>just and just saying I don't know how that happened.

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. So he got those charges. But a few days

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 2>later a grand jury hit him with more noise. On

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 2>April tenth, two thousand and eight, Luke Brugnara and his corporation,

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Brugnara Corporation, they get charged with four counts of quote

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 2>taking steelhead trout in violation of the Endangered Species Act

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:54.280
<v Speaker 2>and two counts of making a false statement during the

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 2>course of the investigation.

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:58.640
<v Speaker 3>About your bond son your crimes.

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:03.919
<v Speaker 2>So it seems Luke intentionally blocked the flow of Little

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Arthur Creek, a watershed for steelheads. So there's this private

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 2>dam called Pikell's Dam after the original homesteaders in the

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 2>eighteen hundred, on some property that Luke bought just outside

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:23.400
<v Speaker 2>of Gilroy, California, Garlic. So he purposely closed the portal

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 2>on the dam, and it was known that steelhead trout

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 2>migrated upstream of the dam on the property. They struggled

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 2>all the way up from the Pacific Ocean at Monterey Bay,

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 2>through fields and everything else to get to and there's

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:45.200
<v Speaker 2>a threatened species. Why are they threatened? Thank you? Well,

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 2>folks like Luke were blocking off the waterways like Little

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Arthur Creek with dams. So state and federal Fish and

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Wildlife investigators they went to check it out and they

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 2>saw a bunch of adult steelhead trapped downstream of the dam.

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 2>They couldn't migrate upstream to their spawning habitat, and a

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Federal Fisheries biologist he took a look, and we're like,

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 2>these trout are essential to the survival of the species

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 2>due to their low number found in the Pajaro River

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:19.679
<v Speaker 2>watershed and parro is how you know, locally we pronounced it,

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 2>it's Paharo either way, So they had to be rescued

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 2>and moved upstream. They had to gather them up. So

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:31.679
<v Speaker 2>the rescue team arrives to move the steelhead upstream and

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:35.119
<v Speaker 2>investigators are like, there are no fish here, They're gone.

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:39.360
<v Speaker 2>And then they also found evidence of poaching and trapping activities,

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 2>so it wasn't just that he blocked the like damned

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 2>it up. He was, you know, netting them in. So

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:48.919
<v Speaker 2>they're like, we have to talk to the property owner

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 2>and that's Luke. And he was like, I didn't take

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 2>the fish, no, and you know, I have no idea,

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:57.160
<v Speaker 2>did you. He's like, I don't even have the kind

0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 2>of lure that you would need that's capable of cat

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 2>steelhead trout. He caught the fish, he had the lures.

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Like he was lying, He's got the truck.

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 2>He's lying to Federal Fish and Wild So what's interesting

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 2>is that this case is the first federal criminal case

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 2>in the country charging an individual and corporation with taking

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 2>steelhead trout by blocking access to upstream habitat first best,

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 2>most important, dude.

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 3>He got one. He finally got record.

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 2>So it should be noted that in twenty twenty four,

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:34.400
<v Speaker 2>after decades of hard work by local fishing and environmental organizations,

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Pickel's Dam was.

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Removed part of the Oravile Dam.

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Trout Unlimited raised the bulk of the funds, coordinated the work,

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and a press release they said, quote this work removed

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 2>the dam, it's non functional fish ladder, a concrete slab,

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 2>and restored some three hundred feet of stream channel, enabling

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 2>subservice water to rise and flow upstream of the dam

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 2>in the dry season for the first time in decades.

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Heck yeah, Now that the dam is gone to you

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 2>will manage the construction of a pedestrian bridge over the

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 2>creek on the project side to enable continued access for

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.959
<v Speaker 2>the property owner. So there's like this was a huge thing.

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 2>There's all this video of them tearing it down.

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 3>I have remember friends posting videos on Instagram and they're

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 3>excited about all. There's numerous damn teardowns in California going

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 3>on right now and people getting geeked.

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:22.879
<v Speaker 2>At but it's a cool thing to watch, and it

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 2>was like such a huge effort. I'm pretty sure Luke's

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 2>not the property owner anymore. So Back in two thousand

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 2>and eight, he pulled another stunt with that creek. He

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 2>tried to sell the water in it to the City

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 2>of Gilroy. According to the Gilroy Dispatch, the city administrator

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Quote called the entire premise of the proposition puzzling because

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 2>he wrote, it seems like Brugnara is trying to profit

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 2>off the way water currently flows. Water coming down Mount

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Madonna flows into Little Arthur Creek on Brugnara's one hundred

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 2>and twelve acre property along Redwood Retreat Road and then

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 2>feeds the Uvis Creek before percolating into the aquifer below Gilroy.

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Instead of paying the Santa Clara Valley Water District two

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 2>point four million dollars a year to pump nearly three

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 2>billion gallons of water from the aquifer, which it helps

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 2>replenish by releasing water from the Juviis Reservoir, Brugnara has

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 2>offered to sell quote his water in arrears for three

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars a year for the first two years,

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 2>and then a fifteen percent marked down from the district's

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 2>prevailing rate thereafter. Okay, and the article goes on. But

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 2>if the water already leaves Brugnara's property and travels down

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 2>Yuvus Creek along with the district's artificially released water, why

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 2>would the city pay him on top of the water

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 2>district thanks simple Brugnara has said, dump the godlike district

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 2>and just pay him instead. The godlike quote godlike district.

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I want to be the godlike water figure. This is

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 3>like the old Western where he's doing dams and trying

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 3>to sell water downstreet.

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 2>The city was like, big note, reject the offer, and

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Luke goes into a tizzy. He starts threatening people. He

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 2>accuses everyone of corruption, and the city's like, you know what,

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 2>that's crazy because we're still not interested.

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 3>And so he's a.

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Waiting well he's doing this while he's a waiting trial

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 2>on all this other stuff, on the tax stuff and

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 2>on the trout stuff.

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 3>Out from Vegas.

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 2>It's nothing, and so he gets tangled up in a

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 2>whole new legal mess. It's not so new. He'd been

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 2>accused of these sort of things in the past, as

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 2>we talked about threatening people, so in October of two

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 2>thousand and eight, four different people got restraining orders against him.

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I told you two thousand was rough, right. Apparently two

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 2>of those people were employees at his children's school. They

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 2>said that Luke forced another parent off the road with

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 2>his car, and they said that he was known to

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 2>carry weapons. Now, will I believe they mean a gun?

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 2>I prefer to imagine like nunchucks or maybe a mace.

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's maybe his fists are registered lethal weapons you

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 2>know that are Anyway, Like I said, he had a

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 2>history of this sort of thing. He once threatened a

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 2>city attorney, court appointed receiver, his brother, his former mistress,

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:20.479
<v Speaker 2>and their child. Former mistress, Yeah, it was their child.

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 3>He had an outside child.

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 2>It was alleged that he threatened a witness to alter

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 2>her testimony before the Nevada Gaming Commission. Wow, and then

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 2>said witness already had a restraining order in place when

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 2>he did this. So he later pleaded guilty to tax

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 2>fraud and trout fraud. And then he tried to retract

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 2>his pleas but they wouldn't let him, and then he

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 2>did and then he like it went back and forth, Yeah, exactly.

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 2>He eventually gets sentenced to thirty months in federal prison.

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>He got out in twenty twelve. Two years later, he's

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 2>back at it baby. March twenty fourteen, he arranged to

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 2>buy eleven million worth of paintings and other works of

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 2>art from a dealer named Rose Long. Okay, eleven million.

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Eleven million dollars of paintings.

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Paintings in the business artwork. Yeah, he said that they

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 2>were for display in his museum.

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 3>His museum.

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 2>So a couple notes on this one. He didn't have

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 2>that kind of money in twenty fourteen.

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing not. He just got out prison.

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 2>And two he didn't have a museum.

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 3>That was my big main question, what museum.

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.479
<v Speaker 2>Long was not aware of either of those notes and so,

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 2>and since like it was going to museum and not

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 2>a private collection, longs like, I'll give you a ten

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 2>percent discount. That's fabulous, Okay. Luke was like, thank you

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 2>so much. That's great. Also, I'm not going to pay

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 2>for shipping. Okay, thank spy, Kay, thank spy. So he

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 2>bought quotes sixteen paintings by Williem Da Kooning, the Dutch

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 2>American abstract expressionist, for about seven million. For those, he

0:32:55.560 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 2>threw down three million for a Diga sculpture. They're four

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty thousand for a painting by American realist

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 2>artist George Lukes, one hundred and sixty thousand for a

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 2>drawing by Miro Yeah, and one hundred and forty five

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 2>thousand for etchings by Pablo Picasso.

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 3>Baby patchings. Okay, I'll take.

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Exactly so long of course, is like, okay, give me

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 2>a deposit, give me a little upfront before delivery. And

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Luke's like, no, no, that's not going to work for me.

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, kay, thanks by He was like, don't forget

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 2>I bought expensive stuff from you before. He bought a

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 2>renoir for five hundred thousand dollars and another Picasso drawing.

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh really legitimately in the past. And so he's like,

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm good for it.

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 3>She's like, you know me, She's.

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, fine, I'm in. So she gets all the pieces

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 2>prepared for shipping, and she personally escorts them to San Francisco,

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 2>where the museum is supposed to be. And so she

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 2>and the art arrive and they make their way to

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 2>the address of the museum two to four Seacliff Avenue,

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 2>the former cheach House.

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 2>So about that museum. He told Long that he was

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 2>opening a museum in San Francisco. She said that she

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:12.800
<v Speaker 2>hadn't heard anything about a new museum opening in San Francisco.

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh, did I say San Francisco. It's actually

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:19.359
<v Speaker 2>be in Las Vegas. You know, so I slip up

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 2>sometimes about.

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Spanish words in San Francisco Las Vegas. Who knows.

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 2>She didn't want to just like leave more than ten

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 2>million dollars in art in the garage of a house,

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 2>but what else could she do? I mean take them

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 2>back with her, of course, But no, she left them

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:37.240
<v Speaker 2>at the Seacliff house.

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Luke told her that he wanted to inspect the art

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 2>when it came in. Yeah, But when Long and the

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 2>art arrived, he was like, Oh, I can't. I'm busy.

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:50.720
<v Speaker 2>I have an appointment to view some property this morning. Sorry,

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I can't.

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Miss your I'm double booked.

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:58.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm triple books. Yeah. So Long left the house without

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 2>the crates being opened, and then she also left without

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 2>getting paid. And then so what she did get was

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 2>a lawyer, but then so did Luke. Luke's like, sue me,

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 2>sue you for his argument. His argument was that the

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 2>art was all a gift. She just gifted this to

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 2>me and I'm sorry, but no takebacks, no vacksies, Bai.

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:24.280
<v Speaker 2>She's so generous.

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Kay, thanks by she loves me.

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just you know, I'm lucky, Luke.

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:30.479
<v Speaker 3>What can I say? Honor.

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 2>So Luke also told his lawyer that the pieces were

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 2>quote unauthenticated and not worth muchauthentic.

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine being this dude's lawyer stuff and you're like,

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 3>don't tell.

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Me that, Long Layer. They're going back and forth you

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:45.719
<v Speaker 2>He's like.

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no.

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 2>He puts his fingers in his ears. The lawyers are

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 2>going back and forth. Luke's lawyer was like, you know what,

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:54.280
<v Speaker 2>only four crates were delivered and then like a small box.

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 2>And Luke was like, you know what, I'll return the

0:35:57.719 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 2>gifts that you gave me, but I want something in reach.

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 2>What Yeah, I don't know. So negotiations are at a standstill.

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 2>So Long's legal team went to the FBI. Good for her,

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 2>The FBI searched the Seacliff house in May of twenty fourteen,

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:14.240
<v Speaker 2>took custody of four of the crates from the garage.

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 2>None had ever been opened, thank goodness. So in the

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 2>crates we have the mirror drawing, the Picasso etchings, the

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:24.359
<v Speaker 2>dacooning pieces, the Luke's painting. By the way, there's a

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:27.759
<v Speaker 2>real possibility that all the dacoonings were duf fake. But

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 2>that's another story.

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 3>Like intentionally counterfeit. She didn't know, she.

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 2>May not have known, you know. Wow, So the fifth crate.

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 2>But me, here's the thing, we talk about enough art crime.

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I think most of it's fake A good percentage.

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, er side, that's probably fair.

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:48.919
<v Speaker 2>It's probably fake. So that fifth crate, right, the one

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 2>with the bronze casting of the Degas Little Dancer statue

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 2>nowhere to be found. So it was on like the

0:36:56.040 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 2>FBI is like this tastes good. I love this. Luke

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 2>gets charged with a bunch of different counts of fraud,

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 2>taken into custody. We're going to trial people. Luke, however,

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:11.320
<v Speaker 2>was going to freedom. So in February of twenty fifteen,

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 2>right before the trial started, Luke made an escape. What

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 2>the judge gave him a three hour furlough so that

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 2>he could change out of his prison garb and into

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 2>a suit and like street clothes to meet up with

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 2>his lawyer at the Federal building in Oakland.

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 3>Sure.

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Instead, he just made a run for it. He took

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 2>off first six days he evaded the Feds. When he

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 2>was caught, he was hanging out in Los Gadows, which

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.320
<v Speaker 2>is at the edge of the Santa Cruz Mountains between

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Santase and Santa Cruz. If you need some sort of

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:44.839
<v Speaker 2>orientation there, and he had a perfectly good explanation for it.

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:45.839
<v Speaker 3>He took the road.

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:48.399
<v Speaker 2>No. See, he had been held at the Glen Dyer

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Jail in Oakland, so they're like, oh, okay, I get it.

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 2>It's the one that's closed down now. It's above police headquarters,

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 2>right next to the freeway with the slits for.

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Those downtown basically, So it wasn't just.

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 2>That it was Glen Dyre jail. It was that he

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 2>was being starved there, malnourished. He said he was being

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 2>malnourished and he was going to come back for trial.

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 2>It was honest. But he just nipped out for a

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 2>bite to eat and less got us fifty miles away. Yeah, anyway,

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 2>multiple so his lawyer withdrew representations.

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 3>I knew. Yeah, his lawyer, he's just like, you're going

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 3>to ruin my career just by being like.

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Why he's like ethical reasons, Yeah I cannot, And so

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 2>they get in, they bring in a replacement lawyer, and

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 2>then the replacement lawyer is like, yeah I can't. I

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.400
<v Speaker 2>have to withdraw representation for ethical reasons.

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:43.439
<v Speaker 3>So is it not a public defender? He's still paying right,

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 3>and they're just like opting out, opting out.

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:47.840
<v Speaker 2>So who's going to be his lawyers?

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Erin himself, a fool.

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Luke represented himself.

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I remember suddenly he went to law school.

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I went to law school. The trial was very chaotic,

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:02.320
<v Speaker 2>very unhinged, went on for two weeks.

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 3>The judge walked out with white hair, came in with.

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Let's take a break, and when we come back, courtroom drama.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, Sarin.

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:32.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I'm excited about this.

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<v Speaker 2>We we go now to the trial of Luke Brugnara.

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<v Speaker 2>An appeals judge would later write in his ruling, quote,

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:43.400
<v Speaker 2>this isn't a judge's.

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 3>Ruling, this is the appeal. So he's looking at another

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:45.879
<v Speaker 3>judge's work.

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Comes back and this is like, this is okay. Quote

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 2>from the moment his trial began. Brugnara's behavior could be

0:39:55.080 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 2>described as appalling. And then it just goes from thereat right.

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:05.879
<v Speaker 2>So apparently when government attorneys objected, he would just keep

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 2>talking right over him, like he didn't hear him. He

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>talked over and interrupted the judge like, Yeah, I'm gonna

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 2>need you to hold it a second. I'm still not done.

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:16.959
<v Speaker 2>When he would be told to settle down, he would

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 2>just yell louder. He ignored procedure. He gave speeches when

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:23.239
<v Speaker 2>he was supposed to be questioning witnesses.

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 3>Is he trying to get his case thrown out? Like?

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:27.320
<v Speaker 3>Is he going for like a mist?

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 2>He's luking it up. And he tried to sneak in

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 2>evidence during questioning that had already been ruled in admissible.

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 2>He was he was rude. He was luke Luke. So

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 2>zaren closure. You are a bailiff in the federal courthouse

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 2>in San Francisco. You've been on the job for more

0:40:57.200 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 2>than a decade and you've seen a lot. You're standing

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:02.919
<v Speaker 2>by the bench as the judge welcomes everyone back into

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 2>court after a recess. The murmured conversations die down, and

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 2>the judge tells the prosecution that they can call their

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 2>next witness. The government attorney stands and calls some commercial

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:15.760
<v Speaker 2>real estate broker to stand. A man at a fine

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 2>suit and expensive haircut approaches and you swear him in.

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 2>Brugnara stands and begins to question the witness. The US

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 2>attorney calls out, your honor, that's her witness. The judge

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:31.360
<v Speaker 2>bangs his gavel and warns Brugnara to sit down. Brugnari

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 2>stares at the US attorney, looks her up and down,

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:37.840
<v Speaker 2>and then tells her that she dresses like a Nazi. Enough,

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 2>shouts the judge, this whole trial has been wild, crazier

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 2>than anything you've ever seen. Brugnara says something about how

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 2>bossy the US attorney is and that the judge should

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 2>just lend her his robe, seeing how she's running things

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 2>in here. You cringe in anticipation of the judge's ire.

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 2>He threatens Brugnaro with contempt of court. Brugnara ignores him

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 2>and just sits back down. The gallery whispers to each other,

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 2>and the judge bangs his gavel again. After questions from

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 2>the US attorney, it's time for cross examination. This is

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.359
<v Speaker 2>bound to be good, you think. Brignara asked the guy

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 2>if he would still be able to obtain financing through

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:18.800
<v Speaker 2>his company if he were acquitted. The witness chuckles a

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 2>bit and then says absolutely not. Brugnara doesn't like this.

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:25.760
<v Speaker 2>He asked the question again, telling the witness to really

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 2>think about what he's saying. The witness repeats himself, absolutely not.

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:33.880
<v Speaker 2>We would not finance you. Brugnara tells him they go

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:35.879
<v Speaker 2>way back, and that there are a lot of things

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:38.840
<v Speaker 2>the witness should consider before he makes that kind of statement.

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:43.720
<v Speaker 2>The US attorney objects, sustained, Brignara tries one more time.

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 2>The witness stares Brugnara down. Then he says, you'd have

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 2>a better chance of successfully doing brain surgery than placing

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 2>alone for a museum of which you'd be the landlord

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 2>and tenant. Muffled chuckles fill the courtroom. The judge bangs

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 2>his gavel again and then announce is that they're done

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 2>for the day. They'll resume at nine am tomorrow. Everyone

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 2>begins to file out of the courtroom, but then Brugnara

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 2>loses it. He starts shouting about how he built himself

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:12.760
<v Speaker 2>up from nothing and that the court and the government

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:16.280
<v Speaker 2>are going to cost him a valuable business relationship. People

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 2>stop in their tracks to listen to this. Insane tirade.

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.839
<v Speaker 2>The judge looks at you and nods. You head over

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:23.839
<v Speaker 2>to Luke Brugnar and you take him by the arm.

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 2>You're done here today, buddy, you say, get your hands

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:29.800
<v Speaker 2>off me. He shouts, spittle forming at the corners of

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 2>his mouth. The attorney assigned to oversee him and the system,

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:36.239
<v Speaker 2>if necessary, quickly shuvels him off to the side room.

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.399
<v Speaker 2>You have another week of this madness and you aren't

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 2>sure you can take it. People just do not wild

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 2>out like this in federal court. You can't even read

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:48.920
<v Speaker 2>the paper in the gallery. Decorum is everything, and somehow

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 2>this guy keeps getting away with it. Act seran.

0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:59.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you just painted it well, so I can imagine.

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 3>But do you imagine sitting through day after day of

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 3>that guy running as his own lawyer, and you're like, look,

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:07.720
<v Speaker 3>we all know you're gonna lose. Can we just speed

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:08.080
<v Speaker 3>this out?

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Exactly? And he's so everybody and yeah, told the US

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 2>attorney you dressed like a Nazi. Yeah, what is that?

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Interrupting the judge? You had me at interrupting the judge like, hey,

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:19.799
<v Speaker 3>pipe down your honor.

0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:23.400
<v Speaker 2>The trials keeps going on. Luke was like, I don't

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:27.719
<v Speaker 2>have that missing Dega sculpture that we all keep talking about.

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 2>You go on and on. So first he was like,

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:34.359
<v Speaker 2>it was never shipped to me. I don't it never

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 2>She never gave it to me. But then the prosecutors

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 2>easily prove that to be false because they have all

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 2>the shipping records. And he's like, okay, fine, for preparatoris

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 2>helping her. Fine, it did get delivered, he says, but

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:50.720
<v Speaker 2>I have these workmen at the house and they mistook

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:53.719
<v Speaker 2>the crate containing the degaf for a toilet and they

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:55.879
<v Speaker 2>stole it. You know, as you do.

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Wait, were they trying to steal a toilet or do

0:44:58.080 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 3>they recognize it was day good later.

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, some time you see a crate, you're like,

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 2>that must have a toilet in it. I have to

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 2>steal it.

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:06.920
<v Speaker 3>And that's worth at least sixty bucks in the open market.

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:10.160
<v Speaker 2>It is. So they put it over to the flea market.

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 2>So he went on this long rant then about how

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 2>all the art was fake and worthless anyway, and so

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:20.120
<v Speaker 2>they asked him, had you had it appraised and authenticated?

0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 2>He's like, no, of course notis like yeah, his assessment

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 2>was like based on vibes so then came time for

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 2>jury deliberations and the jury sent a note to the judge.

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:34.640
<v Speaker 2>They said that one of the jurors had lied about

0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 2>his criminal history during Vadir and he was trying to

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:41.880
<v Speaker 2>influence the deliberations based on his experience as a prisoner.

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 2>The same juror also just like ran out of the

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 2>jury room in the middle of deliberations, and they found

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:52.040
<v Speaker 2>him later on another floor of the courthouse, like he was.

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 3>Just how are they picked for jury duty and made

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 3>it through?

0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:00.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. So the judge called the jur they

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 2>in the paperwork has only identified as IJ into the

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 2>courtroom and he's like, what's up, my good dude, Like

0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 2>what is going on? What's this? I hear about your

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 2>criminal history? And IJ flipped out and then went on

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:17.240
<v Speaker 2>what the judge described as, quote a relentless political tirade.

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:20.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, yeah, so security had to remove IJ from

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 2>the courtroom when he quote became physically belligerent. He apparently

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 2>he like whipped his jacket, like, rips his jacket off,

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 2>whips it against the seats of the jury box, and

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:34.719
<v Speaker 2>then he took off his shoe and brandished it like

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:38.160
<v Speaker 2>a weapon, like he was aiming for George W.

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Bush Goods.

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:43.239
<v Speaker 2>So Ij gets brought back in so the judge can

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:46.280
<v Speaker 2>dismiss him from jury service, and he flips out again,

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:49.760
<v Speaker 2>and this time he said that Luke was innocent because quote,

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 2>he's Italian, and he accused the judge of quote representing

0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:56.080
<v Speaker 2>a Nazi system.

0:46:56.760 --> 0:47:00.120
<v Speaker 3>Wow. Do you think Luke had gotten to this of

0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:01.279
<v Speaker 3>it offered him money?

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Has to be noticed. Jail do each other. I don't know,

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 2>so Ij.

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Are they running alternate jurorsm for this kind of case?

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.959
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so, because it's not like a private file.

0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 2>No Ij gets dismissed, escorted from the building. Luke loses it.

0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:21.839
<v Speaker 2>He objects to the dismissal, tries desperately to keep him

0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 2>on the jury, which like I can understand but sorry.

0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 2>So it should come as no surprise that Luke was

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:32.799
<v Speaker 2>convicted on six of the nine counts he was charged.

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm what didn't go to mistrial or something?

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I know. He gets sentenced to seven years in prisons,

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:42.800
<v Speaker 2>and that included more than fifteen months for contempt of court.

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 2>He was racking it up in there, like every single time.

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:53.400
<v Speaker 2>The judge is like scratching it a lot. Fifteen months. Yeah.

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:55.880
<v Speaker 2>He was also ordered to pay six hundred thousand dollars

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 2>in restitution for the DIGA and about eighty eight thousand

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 2>dollars in attorney's fees. So of course he appeals his lawyer.

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 2>He got a real one for this, said Luke couldn't

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 2>control his actions because of his quote untreated by polar disorder,

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 2>delusions and narcissism.

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Also the Twinkie defense.

0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Basically he said, quote, you have to look at it

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 2>in the context of his mental illness. He cannot accept

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 2>responsibility when that challenges his perception of himself, and that

0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 2>did not fly with the Court of appeals. There are

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot of narcissists and bipolar folks out there who.

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Don't do this, and do you know how many we

0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 3>see in through here?

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Right? So Luke went to prison and he got out

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 2>around November twenty twenty on supervised release. And I wonder

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 2>if it was one of those COVID releases. I was

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:45.960
<v Speaker 2>just about ask, Yeah, Luke is unstoppable though Zarin, No, No,

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:49.239
<v Speaker 2>he had to keep Lucky Luke in it up. So

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:53.040
<v Speaker 2>in July of twenty twenty three, a gun that was

0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:55.359
<v Speaker 2>registered to his girlfriend. So it looks like he got

0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:58.000
<v Speaker 2>a divorce at some point was found to have his

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 2>DNA on it. Now, I don't know how how we

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 2>got to that point, but we got there. Felons can't

0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 2>have weapons here in Californiaia, so his supervised release was revoked.

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Was the gun used in the commission of a crime?

0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:12.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Okay, I don't know. And he had

0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 2>to do another four hundred and fifty six days in jail. Wow,

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:17.799
<v Speaker 2>four or five six? I think they just punched that

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:21.439
<v Speaker 2>in on the keyboard. Speaking of COVID just a moment ago,

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:24.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, he couldn't resist trying to con the government

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:26.320
<v Speaker 2>out of some COVID relief money.

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, there's free money going around.

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:30.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Twenty twenty four, he gets indicted for just that.

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:32.840
<v Speaker 3>Give me a PPP loan exactly so.

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 2>According to court documents, quote on or about January fifteenth,

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:42.319
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one, Brugnara electronically submitted two EIDL applications that's

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Economic Injury Disaster loan in his own name on behalf

0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:50.200
<v Speaker 2>of Brugnara Corporation. As Brugnara knew at the time he

0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:54.880
<v Speaker 2>submitted each application, they contained false representations that were intended

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 2>to influence the SBA to release EIDL funds to which

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:02.439
<v Speaker 2>Brugnara was not entitled. He first applied for a loan

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:04.880
<v Speaker 2>of one hundred and fifty thousand dollars from the SBA,

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 2>which was twice denied. He said the company had four

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 2>employees and its gross revenues the year prior were thirteen million,

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:16.760
<v Speaker 2>seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So the next month

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:21.280
<v Speaker 2>he went after some of those PPP funds Paycheck Protection Program.

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:25.440
<v Speaker 2>He submitted a PPP application in the name of Brugnar Corporation.

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 2>In the application, he falsely represented that his company had

0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:33.520
<v Speaker 2>twenty four employees and had an average monthly payroll of

0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 2>two hundred thousand dollars, and this time he was successful.

0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:40.280
<v Speaker 2>They gave him a round like more than four hundred

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:44.479
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars. So since that worked, he tried a second time,

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 2>used all the same information that one got denied, and

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 2>it caught him some charges, and then he did another

0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 2>Oakland escape in May of twenty twenty four. I'm going

0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 2>to try not to be insulted by his desire to

0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:01.440
<v Speaker 2>run from Yeah, so right when he was indicted in

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:05.279
<v Speaker 2>a pandemic relief fraud case. Luke was sent to an

0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Oakland residential re entry center to serve the remainder of

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 2>his prison term on that gun charge.

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:11.680
<v Speaker 3>A halfway house.

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he and another dude immediately escaped. Like he

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:18.080
<v Speaker 2>walks in and was like, I'm halfway out. Now takes

0:51:18.080 --> 0:51:20.560
<v Speaker 2>off this time. They found him pretty quickly in a

0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 2>hotel room near San Francisco International Airport with his girlfriend.

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, those hotels, Yeah, exactly, staff, I have seen everything.

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Remember we did the one with the furries.

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Were they all on drilling game?

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:32.879
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:33.279
<v Speaker 3>That one.

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:38.600
<v Speaker 2>So he currently faces nine felony counts of wire fraud

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 2>and three counts of money laundering thanks to the pandemic. Yeah,

0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:44.959
<v Speaker 2>the trial is set to start in June twenty twenty six.

0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh but we're not done. We're not done.

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:49.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm not done.

0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:54.960
<v Speaker 2>In January of this year, Luke was back. According to

0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:59.719
<v Speaker 2>news outlet Sphist, Luke quote reportedly put up an illegal

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:03.400
<v Speaker 2>chain link fence around a piece of ocean front property

0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 2>in Daily City that has long been used for its

0:52:06.160 --> 0:52:09.400
<v Speaker 2>hiking and equestrian trail and is a path to Thornton

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 2>State Beach.

0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Why did he put up?

0:52:12.400 --> 0:52:14.480
<v Speaker 2>And he put up a sign that had like a

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:19.120
<v Speaker 2>hand drawn image of a gun and it said trespassers

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:25.320
<v Speaker 2>will be shot on site. S I te so yeah,

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:31.400
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, basically on this site. So the fence blocks

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 2>off this trail that the public has used for generations. Okay,

0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:38.319
<v Speaker 2>and as you know, what happens when you tell California

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 2>beach combers, dog owners and hikers that they can't access

0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:45.160
<v Speaker 2>the ocean like here go hell comes this is.

0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:47.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, especially those with you. I'm assuming this is like

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:49.640
<v Speaker 3>the sand duney area that's over the cliffs.

0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, so San Mateo County at south of San

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Francisco Daily City would be like the municipality for it.

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I've mentioned my dude, Dan Noys of ABC seven Eyewitness

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:04.040
<v Speaker 2>News ITEAM. He's a boss, like old school sixty minutes,

0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 2>microphone in the face as you come out of your

0:53:06.160 --> 0:53:09.719
<v Speaker 2>house journalists. He got an exclusive interview with Luke because

0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:12.359
<v Speaker 2>of course he did. Where he's Dan Noise, get out.

0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:15.200
<v Speaker 3>Of here, Hue Leather reporting with Dan Noise.

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Here's what Luke told him quote on the case. Not

0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:21.120
<v Speaker 2>only is that fence not coming down, it's going to

0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:24.080
<v Speaker 2>be replaced with a wrought iron fence. So we don't

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:26.440
<v Speaker 2>have to worry about people cutting holes in it anymore.

0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:31.480
<v Speaker 2>That's what he tells Dan Noise. According to Sphist quote,

0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:36.359
<v Speaker 2>the ownership structure is fairly complicated, involving multiple parties, some

0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:39.759
<v Speaker 2>of whom are siblings, all of whom are elderly. So

0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:41.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm like getting more and more confused as I'm trying

0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:42.600
<v Speaker 2>to figure this out.

0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 3>He's doing elder abuse and acting like this is his property.

0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 2>ABC seven. Dan steps into clarify. Quote. The seven acres

0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:53.920
<v Speaker 2>surrounded by fence right now at Thornton Beach State Park

0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:58.000
<v Speaker 2>are owned by eight people. Real estate investor Luke Brugnara

0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:01.800
<v Speaker 2>convinced one of them in November to give him their share,

0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:06.320
<v Speaker 2>a deed for one twenty fourth interest and the ability

0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:09.879
<v Speaker 2>to get more when two other owners pass away. Even

0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:13.000
<v Speaker 2>though he controls such a small portion, Brugnara tells the

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I team that he has a right to fence all

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:19.239
<v Speaker 2>seven acres, and then so a county supervisor sends a

0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:22.839
<v Speaker 2>letter to the county you know, assessor's office, asking to

0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:25.759
<v Speaker 2>investigate and is like, the deed, this has to be

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:29.680
<v Speaker 2>a fraud. This can't be real. Yeah, So that's all

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:33.680
<v Speaker 2>going on right now, Like there's developing its every day.

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:36.799
<v Speaker 2>You could go see the fence right now, and then

0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:39.799
<v Speaker 2>if you look, there's just like the stories keep popping up.

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:42.879
<v Speaker 2>New ones popped up while I was researching this. More

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:48.320
<v Speaker 2>from his dan Ney's interview quote, Dude, it doesn't matter

0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:51.160
<v Speaker 2>whether I own one percent or twenty percent. I have

0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:53.360
<v Speaker 2>a right to protect my interests and I have a

0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:56.960
<v Speaker 2>right to protect the property. So much so that a

0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:59.880
<v Speaker 2>couple recently called nine one one after they said Brugnar

0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I told them, if you get near the fence, I

0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:02.920
<v Speaker 2>will shoot and kill you.

0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:05.560
<v Speaker 3>Threats right Classico.

0:55:06.120 --> 0:55:09.480
<v Speaker 2>The cops roll up, they stop him because he's in

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:11.520
<v Speaker 2>a car that's being driven by his girlfriend.

0:55:12.280 --> 0:55:13.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he doesn't have a license.

0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, he's in the rear passenger seat at the time,

0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:20.320
<v Speaker 2>riding up front. And shotgun was a nine millimeter glock

0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:24.359
<v Speaker 2>in an unlocked case. Woa, ladies and gents, we got

0:55:24.400 --> 0:55:27.879
<v Speaker 2>a felon with a gun. He caught that charge as

0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 2>well as for all the threats he was making. And

0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:33.200
<v Speaker 2>guess what that was the same gun from twenty twenty

0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:34.080
<v Speaker 2>three with the DNA.

0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Daily City, where the fence is located, was

0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:41.040
<v Speaker 2>going to tear down the fence. But then an associate

0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:44.319
<v Speaker 2>of Luke's filed a lawsuit against Daily City to stop them,

0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:48.279
<v Speaker 2>like an injunction. Basically, yeah, that associate Luke's twenty six

0:55:48.320 --> 0:55:49.120
<v Speaker 2>year old girlfriend.

0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:50.480
<v Speaker 3>How is she?

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:53.960
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, honey, okay, hold on, if you're listening,

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:56.920
<v Speaker 2>you've got to walk away. You are young, you have

0:55:57.040 --> 0:56:01.319
<v Speaker 2>better options. Yes, don't walk run please, my dear. She

0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 2>denied being his girlfriend. Now, she said that he is

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 2>a real estate advisor to her family, like, oh, you're

0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 2>in good hands, top shelf. So Luke and the galpal

0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:16.880
<v Speaker 2>are living in an RV on that one twenty fourth

0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:20.799
<v Speaker 2>of the property man life and that's because Lucky Luke is,

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:25.800
<v Speaker 2>according to dan Ney's quote, facing eviction for disruptive behavior

0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:30.240
<v Speaker 2>from his single room occupancy hotel in Chinatown. The owner

0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:33.279
<v Speaker 2>says Brugnara hasn't paid rent for five months, that he

0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:36.160
<v Speaker 2>harasses other tenants and leaves trash everywhere.

0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:40.239
<v Speaker 3>This guy is just life a rack. It's just a

0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:41.760
<v Speaker 3>movable feast of crap.

0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 2>If it wasn't for bad luck, he'd have no luck

0:56:44.160 --> 0:56:44.919
<v Speaker 2>at all right now.

0:56:44.960 --> 0:56:47.080
<v Speaker 3>And he's the source of it. He's the sort of

0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:50.799
<v Speaker 3>like when he said, like you know, Lucky Luke, it's

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:53.520
<v Speaker 3>the exact opposite. Like everything else, he says, it's the

0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:54.719
<v Speaker 3>exact opposite, but.

0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Like this incredible rise and incredible fall, he goes from

0:56:58.080 --> 0:57:02.440
<v Speaker 2>like owning all this property downtown San Francisco to living

0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:03.000
<v Speaker 2>in a vanda.

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:05.279
<v Speaker 3>By the way, we're speculating, Oh my god, Yes it

0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:07.680
<v Speaker 3>was speculating. But do you think that girlfriend and he

0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:09.640
<v Speaker 3>there bond is drugs?

0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:15.840
<v Speaker 2>In pure speculation? Yes, yeah, he's.

0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Honey, other people have drugs. He looks if it's the

0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:20.200
<v Speaker 3>drugs other.

0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:22.680
<v Speaker 2>People, he looks rough. He's looking rough.

0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:23.800
<v Speaker 3>That's what I mean. I'm just guessing.

0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So what's your ridiculous takeaway on this?

0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:34.200
<v Speaker 3>It's wild? How just from his bio that he wrote

0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 3>and he highlighted his childhood accomplishments, will say you could

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:41.360
<v Speaker 3>see the arc of his life. You didn't. I didn't

0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:43.600
<v Speaker 3>know what details they would be. But the fact that

0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:50.720
<v Speaker 3>he would just forcibly, demonstrably aggressively argue his truth against anybody,

0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:53.960
<v Speaker 3>including the judge who decides his fate, It's all right

0:57:54.000 --> 0:57:56.200
<v Speaker 3>there in that bio, just the whole Like if I

0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:57.720
<v Speaker 3>say it, I can make it be true. I can

0:57:57.760 --> 0:57:58.480
<v Speaker 3>make you believe it.

0:57:59.000 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 2>That's not any sure that he is unwell. Really, I'm

0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:07.080
<v Speaker 2>interested to like know what his kids experiences are there

0:58:07.120 --> 0:58:10.600
<v Speaker 2>grown and like he says that they're part of the company.

0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Now oh yeah, I mean I don't know. Again, I

0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 2>don't know how I figure that was just old today. Yeah,

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:17.120
<v Speaker 2>but I mean it's like, what are they up to?

0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:19.200
<v Speaker 2>What are they doing? And like this has got to

0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:22.720
<v Speaker 2>be rough on, be embarrassing as all hell exactly, But

0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I swear to God, like you you ask people like

0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:29.480
<v Speaker 2>have you heard anything about this? And like you know,

0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:33.040
<v Speaker 2>friends of mine around the Bear friends in Vegas family,

0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:36.440
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like as soon as and they're just like,

0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:40.919
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, I heard about that guy. He's just yeah,

0:58:41.000 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 2>he's bike ride soon.

0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:45.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's far enough. I could go

0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:48.880
<v Speaker 3>down to Daily City you see this, get a picture.

0:58:49.000 --> 0:58:50.360
<v Speaker 3>I want to see if I get him to threaten

0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:52.520
<v Speaker 3>me and be like, dude, you spelled your sight wrong

0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:54.000
<v Speaker 3>on your sign, don't.

0:58:53.840 --> 0:59:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Go and bring a red marks. Yeah. What's my ridiculous

0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:03.320
<v Speaker 2>takeaway is that this guy just like appeared like this

0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:06.680
<v Speaker 2>vision in the night for me. I needed this, Luke,

0:59:06.880 --> 0:59:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I needed this, and I you know I we've said

0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:12.120
<v Speaker 2>before too that like all of us are a couple

0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:17.720
<v Speaker 2>of bad decisions away from being on this podcast Steal

0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 2>the Trout, Come on, But like there's so many interesting

0:59:21.960 --> 0:59:24.320
<v Speaker 2>elements that like I wanted to do side quests on it.

0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Like I was really fascinated about the Gilroy property and

0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:31.160
<v Speaker 2>I started researching it and I thought, unimportant Isabeth back up?

0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:35.760
<v Speaker 2>And then like where did he get the initial seed funding?

0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:39.120
<v Speaker 2>All these things? And I really want to know, Like,

0:59:39.640 --> 0:59:43.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, I want to know more about him because

0:59:43.720 --> 0:59:48.560
<v Speaker 2>he's just he's like a classic ridiculous criminal, very Californian,

0:59:48.840 --> 0:59:53.320
<v Speaker 2>but and he hits all the trout casinos Aret, Like

0:59:53.360 --> 0:59:55.640
<v Speaker 2>why are you kidding? Are you trying to jam it

0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:56.520
<v Speaker 2>all in their rooms?

0:59:58.440 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:59:58.840 --> 1:00:01.000
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, you know what I think I do need

1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:02.760
<v Speaker 2>is a talk do kill you?

1:00:07.120 --> 1:00:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh god.

1:00:09.720 --> 1:00:09.919
<v Speaker 2>Much?

1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:20.120
<v Speaker 4>I love James, Elizabeth Zarn or should I say Regina

1:00:20.200 --> 1:00:25.040
<v Speaker 4>corn Tower and Zaron. I was listening to your episode

1:00:25.080 --> 1:00:29.120
<v Speaker 4>on George Leslie and Zaren. You kept calling the money

1:00:29.160 --> 1:00:32.920
<v Speaker 4>pudding and it reminded me of the MTV show The

1:00:33.000 --> 1:00:37.360
<v Speaker 4>State with Barry and LaVaughn and two hundred and forty

1:00:37.400 --> 1:00:41.000
<v Speaker 4>dollars worth of pudding. If y'all get that reference.

1:00:42.160 --> 1:00:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I knew I loved y'all for a reason.

1:00:44.720 --> 1:00:45.720
<v Speaker 4>Keep up the great word.

1:00:46.520 --> 1:00:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Wait the state was one of the best.

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