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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura. Oh, let's do it live on a sun

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Speaker 1: kissed Friday edition of the program, Merely Bow and the

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Speaker 1: Great GiB A. How you doing buddy? Oh? You know,

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Speaker 1: just rolling away here on this Friday. I would like

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Speaker 1: who take this is his third consecutive Friday off, is it? Well,

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Speaker 1: not that I'm counting, but he's the franchise. He's the franchise.

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Speaker 1: Let it you know. Yeah, this is one of those

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Speaker 1: see it, because we're not going to be great next week.

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Speaker 1: So this is kind of the this week's been incredible

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Speaker 1: you know this this was one where if you see

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Speaker 1: I know you'll hit him straights, you know. Unfortunately, like

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Speaker 1: that's true. Um So, to be fair, I play the

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Speaker 1: it'll get to where it'll get there, it'll get to football.

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Speaker 1: But I just wanted to start with the National Hockey

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Speaker 1: Marque's good one news, and it's good news. It's just

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Speaker 1: officially he's locked in. Um So. There is a team

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Speaker 1: the Columbus Blue Jackets, who play in the NHL. They

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Speaker 1: have been the worst organization in the NHL from a

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Speaker 1: they're great human beings, but the worst organization the NHL

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Speaker 1: At that point, they're an expansion team, so they've come in.

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Speaker 1: They've had no lottery luck. They've picked three times in

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Speaker 1: There is a generational player that is available in this

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Speaker 1: He scored sixty four goals this year. Typically when you

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Speaker 1: The Blue Jackets have two games left, one last night

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Speaker 1: other words, it's the most meaningful, meaning less, meaningful game

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Speaker 1: and McDavid will win one eventually. Wouldn't the NFL benefit

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Speaker 1: Like it's physical. You put on the sweaters, lay up

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Speaker 1: when I put the auto cover on and off. He

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Speaker 1: was fascinated by that. But I just thought, like his

427
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: natural instra instincts as a dog that is bred to one.

428
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 1: You shoot a foul bird if you will, and it

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Speaker 1: falls into a lake or pond or creek or river.

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Speaker 1: The first two primarily you then go to retrieve it.

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Speaker 1: And I just assumed that he would just take to

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Speaker 1: that and would be hopping all over. But he was not,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. I might have to take him

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Speaker 1: in there tonight and just give him a little run

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Speaker 1: to see if he see if he enjoys it. My

436
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Speaker 1: wife says no, she's all worried about, like it's a

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Speaker 1: saltwater pool, and he's like, well, what's what's it gonna

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Speaker 1: do to his coat? I'm gonna be fine. He's a

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Speaker 1: Dog'll be fine. He's a dog. We'll wash him off.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be fine. Both of my dogs, my one dog,

441
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Speaker 1: we would put on a raft. He would just float

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Speaker 1: around the pool with us. He had to be a

443
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Speaker 1: little nervous, but he was like, whatever, I'm good, I

444
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Speaker 1: got this is good. Yeah. Yeah, that's so that's what

445
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: we're hoping for there. Um. We do have some news

446
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: on the NFL side of things today. Nothing groundbreaking. Gerald

447
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: McCoy uh shutting it down after six the six time

448
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: pro bowler with the Bucks. We were linked to him

449
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Speaker 1: at one point, did you remember when he was here

450
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Speaker 1: from and we kept waiting. We're like, do we record? Like,

451
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Speaker 1: We're like, it's gonna come on. There's movement, there's movement,

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00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: people are moving around, nothing nothing. Two forty five, two

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Speaker 1: fifty were like, all right, well, this isn't gonna happen

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Speaker 1: on our show. Do we need to pre tape something?

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Speaker 1: We did? Yeah, we ta, we did. We taped a

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Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy podcast edition of CBD where then we got him.

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Speaker 1: That never made it to air. No, I remember this.

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Speaker 1: So at that time, did he sign with signed with Carolina? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is that who he signed with? Instead? I believe so?

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Speaker 1: Was that nineteen? I mean nineteen. I'm gonna write a

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Speaker 1: book about nineteen. There's a lot going on in nineteen

462
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: there eighteen eighteen into nineteen. Oh my god, I mean

463
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: it could start. The book starts the night you beat

464
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Speaker 1: the Jets on Thursday Night football. That's the start, and

465
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: then it's everything that follows um. But yeah, this was

466
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Speaker 1: that had to be in that year. It had to

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Speaker 1: be nineteen. That's World's team, that's Odell in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: That's all of that. When we Yeah, because we recorded it,

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Speaker 1: we recorded Gerald boy signs at the Browns. We were like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll just do a quick, like ten minute podcast and

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Speaker 1: it been drops, then we'll throw it up. Yeah, then

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Speaker 1: we're ready. We were here. I was here until like

473
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Speaker 1: five o'clock on Friday. Yeah, we waited forever. We waited forever.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember we did it. We must have done

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Speaker 1: on the phone, yeah, because that was pretty COVID so

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't have end ability to broadcast from home, so

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Speaker 1: it would have been on the phone. No, I think

478
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Speaker 1: we recorded it here in studio and then you guys left.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's it did on the phone. I

480
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: think you guys, yeah, you got it. Just said let's

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Speaker 1: just knock this out. Just knock it out right after

482
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Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, we have his stats. If he signs,

483
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Speaker 1: we know what. He was there all day. He literally

484
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Speaker 1: hung out in the cafeteria for like three hours. Yeah,

485
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: he was he was there all day. I wonder what

486
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Speaker 1: prevented that from happening. Who will? Only Dorsey will know

487
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: he was the one involved, and those in his lieutenants

488
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: Alonso high Smith and knows where all the bodies are buried. Um.

489
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Speaker 1: This from this from Bud Duprie, former Steeler of course

490
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: and Titan signing a one year deal with Atlanta. Bud

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00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: Dupri already thirty years old. There was a time he

492
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Speaker 1: was a dude. Did not go well in Tennessee for him,

493
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: dealt with injuries, just seven sacks unless twenty two games

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Speaker 1: over a couple of seasons. But he is part of

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00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: a huge contingent that the Falcons have signed. Remember they

496
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Speaker 1: traded for Jeff Acuta last week, the former number three

497
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Speaker 1: pick in the draft. Overall, they signed Jesse Bates Calais

498
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Speaker 1: Campbell so very busy. I'm gonna throw it out there.

499
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: They have built themselves a squad. Why they won't go

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Speaker 1: get Lamar Jackson is truly beyond me? Are you sure

501
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: they aren't? According to their owner, they're not. Yeah, I

502
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: wonder if he just did to say that publicly though,

503
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Speaker 1: I mean, because I'm with you. It looks like a

504
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: team that's trying to win now with that who doesn't

505
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: have a quarterback? So what's the one thing you don't have?

506
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: It really is one you're really gonna run out, Desmond Ritter,

507
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: You're really gonna just throw all your eggs in that basket.

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Speaker 1: I can't see. I don't know about that. Is heinik

509
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: there too? Even? Still? Yeah, yesterday Odell Beckham Junior officially

510
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: unveiled in Baltimore as a new Baltimore Raven. He said,

511
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: do it for the money. No, he didn't. By the way,

512
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Speaker 1: I also think it's funny so like there was at

513
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: one point he was talking about how everybody's doubted him.

514
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, dude, no one's ever doubted you. You were

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Speaker 1: a normal US recruit at LSU, you were a first

516
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Speaker 1: round receiver in the NFL. You've been an All Pro,

517
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Speaker 1: You've everybody's been known You're great forever. Man, Like, no

518
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: one's doubted you. You've been great forever. Drives me. That's

519
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: what athletes say that Like, No, you were identified young

520
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: as being special, you're not. Nobody ever looked at Odell

521
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: Beckham juniors like I don't know if you'll make it,

522
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: Like he was always gonna make it always and then

523
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Speaker 1: after the one handed catch, no one never doubted him again, nobody.

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00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: If anybody handed out it was gone. He is gone.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was sensational during those early years at

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Speaker 1: the Giants. He did say he was given no assurances

527
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Speaker 1: that Lamar Jackson will be the quarterback of the Ravens,

528
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: but he did look directly into the camera and say Lamark,

529
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Speaker 1: I'm on home, and I think this probably worked for

530
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Speaker 1: Lamar too. He was I'm sure he was excited about it.

531
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Speaker 1: And this gets him a little bit of juice to

532
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: play for the Ravens. We've talked about it many times.

533
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: He is. Odell is so popular among among NFL players,

534
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: and you know what great And the first three games,

535
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Speaker 1: when Odell's got one catch, that's gonna go well in

536
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: that locker room. No, but it's the line for bad men.

537
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 1: That's what the money's for. No one else was going

538
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: to give him eighteen potential of eighteen fifteen guaranteed, last

539
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Speaker 1: one here quickly. The Bucks GM Jason Lickt has said

540
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: they have no intention of trading linebacker Devon White. Remember

541
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Speaker 1: Devon White, he of course, most famous as being an

542
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 1: LSU linebacker who likes to ride horses, demanded a trade

543
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: earlier this week, the Bucks saying no shot, not happening

544
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: on that front. We'll talk about all of these things

545
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: spring game tomorrow, DWN and Columbus as well. We'll do

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Speaker 1: so with our good buddy ti Vis Powell. He joins

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Speaker 1: the show coming up next. Less to Cleveland Browns Daily

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Speaker 1: Keep it was to Cleveland. Former Buckeye great, Cleveland Brown's

556
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Speaker 1: radio analyst, former intern of mine, and a man with

557
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Speaker 1: an eternal smile, the Great Tivis Powell joins, how you

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00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: doing on this Friday? My friend? Oh? You know, I'm

559
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: just smiling my butt. Of course you are. Why wouldn't

560
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: you be listen? It's a beautiful friday. You know it's

561
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: the day before the spring game. I actually got to

562
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: go watch practice today. Oh. It's just been a good day, man,

563
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: just a good day. Oh. I got big questions for you.

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00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: Then on that. In just a second. Before I get

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00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: to that, I wanted to add run around a couple

566
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Speaker 1: of things by you from an NFL perspective, and I

567
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: wanted to start with this do you see any any

568
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: downside to the NFL doing a draft lottery similar to

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Speaker 1: the NBA and NHL. Did I see a downside to it?

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00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: Not necessarily, Um, I think it would be it'd be

571
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: more intriguing for the bottom tea, so you know, you know,

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00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: I think it comes to a point where you get

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Speaker 1: to the end the season and you know it's there's

574
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: no there's nothing good about winning the game. You get

575
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: nothing out of winning that melt the last couple of games,

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00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: and obviously we've seen with the Blue Jackets. Yeah, the

577
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: Blue Jackets there yesterday. But it makes it more interesting

578
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: because now it's like the whole tanking thing that you know,

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00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: the Dolphins got accused guff like, it doesn't even matter

580
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 1: because if you're not guaranteed the number one pick. So

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00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: I think it makes it will bring dollars in. You

582
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: know how people tune in to see the lottery. I

583
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: think that the NFL, if it was the lottery, it

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00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: would bring way more attention to it because the sport

585
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: is just the most popular sport in America to day,

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00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people will be invested

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Speaker 1: into it. So I don't see a downside to it.

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00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 1: Have you been. Have you ever been on a team

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Speaker 1: that is in that hopeless position where I'm trying to

590
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: think of all your stops and if it ever has

591
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: it ever happened to you where you were in the

592
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: spot where you were long eliminated and just playing out

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00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: the string. Yeah, it was Actually this would be twenty

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Speaker 1: seventeen when you know the forty nine ers got Jimmy

595
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: Garoppolo and you know we're on this Big six and

596
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: old run. At the end of the season, I mean,

597
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't enoughing we weren't playing. Then the next season

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Speaker 1: after that we played another season. Jimmy Garoppolo got hurt

599
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: that season. They make Nick Bullers was the quarterback that year.

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Speaker 1: Season was not good at all, and we got to

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00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: I think we ended up being four and twelve. Maybe

602
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: we got to that last game against the Rams and

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00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: it was like like the starters played like a quarter

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00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: and then sat. It was just a bunch of bench

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00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: players playing for the rest of the game because it

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00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: didn't matter. But the only thing we had going that

607
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: season was that George Kittle was on the verge of

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Speaker 1: breaking the single season record. I think him and I

609
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: think Travis Kelsey broke it. Didn't Kittle broke Travis Kelsey's record,

610
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: didn't like the same day or something like that. So

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00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: that was the only motivation we had. But as far

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Speaker 1: as winning and losing, we had no. It was no

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00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: motivation to win the game at all. I asked you

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Speaker 1: that because you know, in the NBA you can tank

615
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: and it doesn't take a physical toll. Taking in the

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00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: NFL hurts. It hurts. It's a collision sport. It's a

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00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: physical game. Like can you play Can you play the

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00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: in the NFL not full throttle? I don't think you

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Speaker 1: you can, but you definitely should not us since it's

620
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: such a violent game. You go out there and you

621
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: know you're going half speeding the other guys are going

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00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. You can get hurt doing that. So

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Speaker 1: it's best that you just go out there and put

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00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: your best foot for it. Like I say, I think

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00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: teams disguised by who they play. You know, you know

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00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: see a lot of starters now playing. They'll put their

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00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: bench players in or there, the second or third string guys. Man,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty much how teams disguise. Next week, our team

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Speaker 1: will get here for the start of the offseason program.

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Speaker 1: Um we anticipate most of them will be here. Most

631
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Speaker 1: of them will be be here and be participating. There

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00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: will be some probably who won't a handful here or there.

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00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: What's the most important thing that gets done between now

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Speaker 1: and the last day, which I think the last day

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00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 1: mandatory medica for us like June eighth. Uh, what's job one?

636
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Speaker 1: But y'all wanted to make sure everybody gets back in shape.

637
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's for especially for the Cleveland Browns and

638
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: their instance. It's defense. You know, it's a new defensive

639
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: coordinator in there. So now we got to get these

640
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: guys to learn these playbooks and speak the same language.

641
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,959
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of Jim Schwartz and Joe

642
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: Woods and words or verbage translates with each other. Usually

643
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: when you got a new defensive coordinator, they speak different terms,

644
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: so you have to get those down understand what he's

645
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: looking for. So I think that's from a defensive standpoint.

646
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: As far as offense goes, you got you got some

647
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: new wide receivers in there, and they need to learn

648
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: the playbook, They need to learn the chemistry with Deshrine.

649
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: They have six games with them last year, but obviously

650
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: in those six games we've seen like they weren't used

651
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: to scramble drill from a receiver standpoint, offensive line standpoint,

652
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: I mean those guys who are getting hold and called.

653
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: So you have to you have to put that in

654
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: practice and understand how you want to utilize all of

655
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: these new weapons that you have because you want to

656
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: try to please everybody. But when that when training camp

657
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: comes around, you need to have a good game plan

658
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: and understand what every power everybody can contribute to the win.

659
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: And I think that's what OTAs and many campus for.

660
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: It's just getting that thing down and seeing what everybody's

661
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: made of and making sure everybody's on the same page.

662
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: How how big of a challenge is it from a

663
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: like from a terminology standpoint, How how tough is that?

664
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: Because and how you know, because a lot of times

665
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: sometimes you're teaching the same thing but almost in a

666
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: different language. Right, Yeah, it's so for it's like you

667
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: can't they might it might be called cover three, Like

668
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: Jim Nose is gonna run. He's gonna run the same thing.

669
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: Single high safety will cover one, cover three, And you

670
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: know it might be a hook dropper. You might call

671
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: it a hook, but he might call it a buzzer,

672
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: So it's like it's just totally different. It's that it's

673
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: the little things like that where you have to learn

674
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: how to speak the same language. Because if you but

675
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: if you go out there and say, hey, I'm the

676
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: buzz player and Joe and Joe Woods is defense, that

677
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: might be the guy that's that's got the sideline the

678
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: flats in the styleline. But it's this thing. It might

679
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: vertical hook guys. So if you tell a guy from

680
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: last season, I'm a buzzer, but you're checking Jim Noses,

681
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: he'll think that. He'll think it's a hook, but you

682
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: actually buzzing. So that's that's where you can get confused.

683
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: And that's why you got to make sure that everything

684
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: is on the same page. And very seldomly do defensive

685
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: coordinator change their verbiage. They make you change. So um,

686
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: I actually struggle with that a little bit when I

687
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: went to Denver. Denver has something like that where they

688
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: called their buzzers the hook players, and they called it

689
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: something that they called them flat droppers or something like that,

690
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: And I was confused and I was saying, I was

691
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: coming down, I was bu everybody was looking and be

692
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: like what are you talking about it is? It's something

693
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: real You gotta get on the same page. You know,

694
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: you mentioned Deshaun and tune of the great Tivis Powell

695
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 1: former bucket a great longtime NFL that UM. When you

696
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: when you think about Deshaun Watson and you think about

697
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: UM an offseason program that he's gonna start on Monday

698
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: without the cloud over him in terms of what suspension

699
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: could come and from Kevin Stefanski's perspective, Alex Van Pelt's perspective,

700
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: you know you got him and now you can just

701
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: go full throttle. What do you what do you think

702
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: will be the biggest difference in having that information and

703
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: what do you expect them to do with Watson that

704
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: maybe they weren't able to do last year because you

705
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: never really knew until I mean, heck, we were all

706
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: the way in camp when we finally knew how long

707
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: he's going to be out. Yeah, I think I think

708
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: they tried to do a really good job last year.

709
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: We're trying to get him as many reps as possible.

710
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: You know, we heard about obviously jacoben Pricid being the backup,

711
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 1: and you know, thank guy, he was a pro because

712
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 1: he was he was taking a bunch of mental reps

713
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: when we all thought that he should be the one

714
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: getting a lot of those reps, but they understood that

715
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: Deshaan didn't play last year. I think now it's just

716
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: about getting that communication with him because he only had

717
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: the preseason. He had those six games where he was

718
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: able to, you know, be on the same talk to

719
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski through the helmet and be able to take

720
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: what Stafanski saying, give it to the offense, to go

721
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: out there and run offense and command the offense. I

722
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: think now you have to you have to continue to

723
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 1: feed him those reps because out of those six games

724
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a lot. They have to be able

725
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: to be on the same page, watch the same film together.

726
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: And it's just about him being rusty and getting his

727
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: confidence back. You know, if we've seen him play some

728
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: good ball last year where he made some throws where

729
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: you've seen it, he was like, Okay, it's still there,

730
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: but it never was that confidence. I think I've seen

731
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: him one time where he had some confidence. I think

732
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: it was against Baltimore. He broke on like a twenty

733
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: yard run, got up and did like a nice little

734
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: first down Dan, it was like that that was the

735
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: energy that I was waiting to see him fit. And

736
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: it's like he kinda to me with all the stuff

737
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: that was going on, It's like he didn't want to

738
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: put that out there because he was trying to, you know,

739
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: keep a clean image. You know, he didn't want to

740
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: know he already had the negativity. He didn't want to

741
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: bring his a cocky ego to the field. But that's

742
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: who he is when he plays his best football. He

743
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: has a cocky attitude on the field and he needs

744
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: to get that back. He needs to get his swag

745
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: back on the field. If he does that, I think

746
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: that the sky's the limit. We'll see the design that

747
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: we've seen in Houston. The guy that you know, he scored,

748
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: he played a guitar. You know, that's that's the guy

749
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: that they need to see for the Cleveland Brows. Because

750
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: what it does is if people feed off of that energy,

751
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: teammates speed off that energy. You see somebody get up

752
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: and do some dancing. It's like, man, I wanted to

753
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: do some dance. So it's something that just he needs

754
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: to get that back for himself. All right, you were

755
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 1: one of the swaggist athletes around in scarlet and gray.

756
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: The socks were always scrunched. The shoes were always clean.

757
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: Not quite to the level of Braxon Miller, but I

758
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: don't know that anybody was that but close. If you're

759
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: in the vicinity, got special shoes. Man, it was a

760
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: couple of games. I look at Braxton to be like,

761
00:40:54,600 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: where did we got? The footwear especially was always unique.

762
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: My friend like, I don't think those are in the catalog. Um,

763
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: but I because of that, I want to ask you that.

764
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: So Elijah Moore, I saw this earlier in the week.

765
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: He uh put so he were number eight with the Jets,

766
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: which I think is pretty cool. So he wrote eight

767
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: or zero. Now, I'm not gonna tell you how I

768
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: feel about zero. Um, I'm curious which one you would do?

769
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: Eight or zero? Which one looks better? Eight? Eight? For me,

770
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a fan of the zero at all. Um.

771
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: I always thought it was good, like if you're if

772
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: you're a D in college, I don't think you could

773
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: do it in the NFL. But in college deal line

774
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: in that weear and in linebackers that wear tight ends.

775
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,479
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that. But as far as the DV

776
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: goes I'm not for I just think it's a wide number.

777
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: Like I think it's kind of why I took me.

778
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't Maybe it's just me thinking this, but I

779
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: just think it's why. I just don't like the number zero.

780
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: I get that people to say I wear a zero

781
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: because it's zero, you go get zero completions or I

782
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: get all that talk. But like everybody knows, in the secondary,

783
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 1: the number to wear is two. If anybody that wears

784
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: number two in the secondary is definitely that guy, that's

785
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: because of prime Dean sand that's prime War two. He

786
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: started it. I'm with you on zero. To me, every

787
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: time I see zero on somebody, it just looks like

788
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: an oh yeah, I'm not with it. I'm not for it.

789
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 1: I see that Craig Newsom is flirting with the idea.

790
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: I mean listening, maybe he can pull it off. I

791
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: just I'm not to me, it's not a thing. I'm

792
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: with you. Let's let's do a couple of minutes on

793
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: the Buckeyes spring game tomorrow. Uh, some juice out of it.

794
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: There was a quarterback competition, but now not. I guess

795
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: the competition is still going on, although I believe that

796
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,479
Speaker 1: they've already made their mind, even if they're not saying

797
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: it out loud. But I was excited to see Devin

798
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: Brown play in his first full spring and his first

799
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: year here to see how he could push a little bit.

800
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: M Kyle McCord is the other one who's fighting for it.

801
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: Former five our kid out of Philly from a high

802
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: school teammate of Marvin Harrison junior um. You saw a practice.

803
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: It's three straight first round picks out of Ohio State

804
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Does it feel to you like McCord has

805
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: that juice? You know, he actually does have that ability.

806
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: Now Monday, I've seen him missus baby one or two throws,

807
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, but today I seen him to being Josh

808
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: Perry was actually out there watching it together and he

809
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: threw a nice little out route from the far hash

810
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: and it was on the money to Cardinal Tate. So

811
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: who was the name that everybody needs to get familiar

812
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: with because that kid kidn't go. But I like Kyle McCord.

813
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: I like I think he can sling the ball with

814
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: the best of them. Obviously, you know, I've seen him

815
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: on Monday. He completed a lot of beat balls, which

816
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: is not great for the secondary, but it was able

817
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: to see that he can make those throws and make

818
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: those big time throws. Nice little scene route to Marvin Harrison.

819
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, this, So to me, the throwing

820
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: ability is there. I have to see how he commands

821
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: the offense when the season comes around. But I think

822
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: he already had the leg up. Anyway. We saw him

823
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: with two years ago in the acoring game and he

824
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: did a good job commanding that offense, slinging the ball

825
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: through a touchdown. So the confidence is already there, you know,

826
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: And like I say, naturally he got there. The chemistry

827
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: with Marvin Harrison, I think to me it was a layup.

828
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: Even though Devin Brown maybe the better athlete as far

829
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: as mobility goes, I just think that you can't tess

830
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 1: with that, that chemistry, and when it comes game time,

831
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: you gotta go with the guy that you trust that

832
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: can go in the game and get it done. And

833
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: what better than that's already done it? All right? You

834
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: be honest with me, could your secondary group have covered

835
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: these Buckeye receivers' Actually what group are you talking about?

836
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: It's two different Are you want to go fourteen or fifteen?

837
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: I'll let you pick it. Listen, all I'm gonna say

838
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: is twenty fifteen assisted U two first round picks, that corn,

839
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: a second round pick, and an undrafted ideas that myself.

840
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: So with that Dnson I would have from a talent

841
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: standpoint here, I would go with twenty fifteen. But twenty

842
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: fourteen Duran Grant was he can bang with the best

843
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: of them, and obviously we won a Natty. He was

844
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: our number one cornerback then. So I think they would.

845
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: I think, I'll tell you what, I think that we

846
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: would be up for the challenge for sure. I think

847
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison is a problem through game plan, in preparation.

848
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: I think we'd take them. I really do, Marvin. It's

849
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: funny because people, you know, you think about what Brian

850
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: Hardline in Northeast Ohio Gay another one of them that

851
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: has done at the receiver position. There. It's just next level.

852
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just they're coming off a two first

853
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: round picks at receiver last year. You're gonna get another

854
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: one in Jackson Smith and Jagba this year. And now

855
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison. I got people down there saying he's the

856
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: best of the bunch. What do you think it's unfair?

857
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: What Brian Hartline is doing Marvin Harrison out of all

858
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: of those. It's crazy because the difference between him is

859
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: he runs great routes, he's fast, he got great hands,

860
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: and the differences he has the size. Man, I never

861
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: realized how big he was until I've seen him on Monday.

862
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, this he might be six three, six four,

863
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: legit like because I'm six three and he with me.

864
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: So I'm like, and the guys just physically gifted. He

865
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: might be the best one out of the body. And

866
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: that's crazy to say, but it's crazy as I say that.

867
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: This cardinal take kid of bo I'm telling you out

868
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: here in the bottom. I've seen it for myself the

869
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: past two times i've been. I went Monday, and I

870
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: went Friday or today, and the kids who stand out

871
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: and he's that number seventeen. Y'all shouldn't invest with from

872
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: stocking that kid because he is really good. I still

873
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: think I have some seventeens for the boys from the

874
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: Jalen Marshall era. They might still be I might have

875
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: seen somewhere only he don't change his number, but yeah,

876
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: that will be in. I believe he will play this year.

877
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: And they say that he is like how Marvin Harrison

878
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: was as a freshman. We didn't get to see him

879
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: because obviously they got to Garrett Wilsons and you got

880
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: the Crystal Loaves and JSCN, so he had no time

881
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: to be on the field. We didn't get to see

882
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: him to the rose ball. But this kid here, they

883
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: say he is on that same level. He's a pro.

884
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: He handles his business and that kid can absolutely ball.

885
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: All right, let me give you one. I want one

886
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: defensive one. I'll get you out of here on this

887
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: one because I'm hearing a lot about Sunny Styles, who

888
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: switched his number from twenty to six. He's a safety currently.

889
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if some people tried talking him

890
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: into being a hybrid player, much like Isaiah Simmons was

891
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: at Clemson. What did you see out of the secondary

892
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: and specifically Styles, Well, believe it or not, we know

893
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: Denzel Burke struggled a little bit. Um he had He's

894
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: had a pick. He had a pick on Monday when

895
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: I watched it. He had to pick again to day

896
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: when I watched So can he making some plays there? He?

897
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: I think he's really gonna have a bounce back season.

898
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: We didn't get to see Jordan Hancock last year, but

899
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: I like his movements. I like the way that he moves,

900
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: and I like this it but knows the kid that

901
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: we got from. I think he's from Old miss He's

902
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 1: the one that's coming to program. It's really got people

903
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: having to step their game. But because that kid can

904
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: absolutely go when it comes to Sonny though, Sonny, when

905
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: you look at him, when you get to see him, man,

906
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: that kid is physically gifted. He moves very well for

907
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: its size. They trying to figure out exactly where they

908
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: want to put him. He's been in the post the

909
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: last couple of times i've seen him, which I don't

910
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 1: know how much how I feel about that. I would

911
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: like to see him more closer to the ball. You

912
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: get a kid like that who physically gifted like that,

913
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: and it's very physical when it comes to making tackles,

914
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: I think you need to put him around the ball.

915
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't want them to make that mistake and keep

916
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: him in the post just to try to keep him

917
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 1: on the field. Then you gotta make a you gotta

918
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: let playmakers be playmakers and be around that ball so

919
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: that'll be interested to see what they do. With him,

920
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: but he did disappoint me. They ended practice today. It

921
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: was like a scramble drill. The quarterbacks throws it up,

922
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: pours the out of bounds. Funny goes to pick it

923
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: right out of bounds like where he was going to

924
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: have two feet in and he dropped it. But I was, oh,

925
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 1: we hate to see that. He don't like nice things, man,

926
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm not worried about it. The

927
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: kid moves well to the fact that he was able

928
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: to put himself in position to make a play. That's

929
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: about ninety five percent of the battle. He just got

930
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: to reward himself. Good talking to you, buddy. It's always

931
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: thanks for your time. No problem, I have a goal,

932
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: all right. That's a great friend of the program. Tyvis

933
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,400
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934
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,359
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938
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: kayper Junior, a smattering of conversation around the NFL Draft

939
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946
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Speaker 1: your Cleveland Browns. Let's hear from mel kiper Junior. Here's

947
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: some highlights from ESPN legendary NFL draft analyst mel kiper

948
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: Junior his pre draft conference call with the media. Let's

949
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: have a listen. Hey man, I appreciate you doing this.

950
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: I want to ask you over this past season, there

951
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: were twice as many quarterbacks six foot one and under

952
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 1: start games as there were ten years ago. Why why

953
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: is there a trend towards you think, towards smaller, maybe

954
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: even more athletic quarterbacks than there were ten years ago. Well,

955
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: the shotgun, you're so deep in the shotgun now you're

956
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: away from the line of scrimmage. You have sightline now

957
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: that you didn't have before. Certainly, you know you look

958
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: at the way they spread the field now with so

959
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: many receiving options that you can get the ball out quick.

960
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: You know, I think Russell Wilson, Drew Breese. Russell Wilson

961
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: made these quarterbacks a lot of money that are coming

962
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 1: into the draft. You five ten, five eleven, six feet

963
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: proving he can do it. Kyler Murray as well, and

964
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: then certainly you know Drew Brees. So Michael Vick was

965
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: only six feet tall, five eleven and a half six feet.

966
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: So we have had successful quarterbacks that have won big

967
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL. We won super Bowls like Russell did

968
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: that have been that size. So now once that happened,

969
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: nobody cares anymore. So size went by the boards and

970
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: you see now all of a sudden you're looking at

971
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: Bryce Shung, number one pick overall. And it's not just

972
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: the height as the size. We have not had a

973
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: Bright Young in the draft. We've had quarterbacks that didn't

974
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 1: have the ideal at the time height, but they had

975
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: to wait and they had to frame. Bryce Young doesn't

976
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: have either. That's why he's an outlier. He's a once

977
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: in a lifetime quarterback. We have never in the history

978
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: of the common draft at a quarterback his size five

979
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: ten and a quarter only probably gonna play at one

980
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: eighty five go in the first round, let alone number

981
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: one overall, and then you get into Okay, Stetson, Bennett

982
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: Georgia won two national titles, Jake han Er Fresno State.

983
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: Those quarterbacks that are getting a chance now because of

984
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that were in the six foot range that

985
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: made it big. So again, you know, Bryce has been

986
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: helped by Russell and Murray and the other guys will

987
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: just help out of fact the six foot quarterbacks have shown.

988
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: Because of the way the league is now protecting the quarterback.

989
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 1: I always saying that they protect you, but they don't

990
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: protect you from the pain. You get the penalty, but

991
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: you still get the pain. So we act like they

992
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: protect the quarterback. You're still getting hit, you're still getting hurt,

993
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: you're still feeling the pain, but the penalty flags thrown.

994
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: So that's a little bit of a misnomer there for me.

995
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: But the shotgun, I think in the way you spread

996
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: the field now with so many multiple receiving options, helps

997
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: the quarterback get the ball out quicker and protect his

998
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: body him l thank you. Last year we saw five

999
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: or six draft day trades in the bottom end of

1000
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: the first round at twenty and below. Do you see

1001
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of times if there's a quarterback

1002
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: who's a late first round or you see movement, do

1003
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: you what do you think about that? Do you think

1004
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: do you expect to see a fair chance of moves

1005
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: late in the first round? Again, possibly I had the

1006
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker trade for that reason, get that fifth year

1007
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: option on Hendon Hooker at Seattle. Could be Minnesota, they

1008
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: just didn't never sept don't have a second round pick,

1009
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: so that kind of hurt me in terms of thinking

1010
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: that they could maybe make that move, maybe a one

1011
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 1: next year if they want to do that. So there's

1012
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: ways to get a round not having a two if

1013
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: you really want to get a guy like Hooker in

1014
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: the late first there's certainly a chance. Baltimore, as we discuss,

1015
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: always likes to trade down gee Americ Da Costa, you know,

1016
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: to pick up a two, which they don't have. The

1017
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: Rocon Smith trade they lost that too, so they could

1018
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: move off a twenty two, moved down and still get

1019
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 1: a d. J. Turner, say from Michigan, who was coached

1020
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: by at Michigan, their defensive coordinator Mike McDonald. So it's

1021
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: trades like that could happen. Yeah, I had Pittsburgh taken

1022
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 1: a receiver. They haven't taken a receiver since I was six.

1023
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: But if they go corner there or they want to receiver, baby,

1024
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: they trade down or they take a corner. If they

1025
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: feel like, we don't take it a receiver since I

1026
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: was six, we're gonna go corner, that could affect them

1027
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: a little bit because then they say, if they want

1028
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: to receiver, they could move down and still get a

1029
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: pretty good one. I think Seattle at twenty they already

1030
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: make a pick at five. They could move off at

1031
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: twenty and move down. Possibly you could see, like say

1032
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: teams like Philadelphia, like I have them moving out of

1033
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: the first round. Certainly Kansas City, New Orleans and any

1034
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: of those teams at the end of the first round

1035
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: could move out for a team looking to move in

1036
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: and get either a guy that slid further than they

1037
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: expected or that quarterback. And to go to your question

1038
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: about trades, there's so much mixed opinion. There's not a

1039
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: lot of guys with first round grades. I mean, you

1040
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: get down to with fifteen twenty guys, so when you

1041
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: get into the late first you don't have a first

1042
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: round grade on a player. Teams will one out and

1043
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: somebody's always going to be high. When a guy that

1044
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: slides down a little bit, they have a different they

1045
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: have a higher grade on than the other teams do that,

1046
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: then they want to go up and get so in

1047
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: a draft like this, which it's not a really strong draft,

1048
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: and you know, it's one of those drafts where you

1049
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: got to really pick your spots, counting your evaluators, your scouts,

1050
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: to really align these guys up properly. I said a

1051
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: couple of months ago, if you get if you have

1052
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: three years from now, you get an A or A

1053
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: plus grade or a B plus grade, you should give

1054
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: your scouts a raise because this is a draft or

1055
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: you gotta earn your money. It's a tough draft to evaluate,

1056
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: a lot of mixed depending a lot of players are

1057
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: tough to evaluate. So because of that, to answer your question,

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00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: I would expect some maybe two or three trades between

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00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: say eighteen and thirty one. Hey mail, thanks for doing

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00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 1: this question for you. Just kind of big picture late teens,

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00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: early twenties. You have teams like you know, Pittsburgh, the Ravens, Chargers, Minnesota,

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00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: A lot of them need the same kind of prospect,

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00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, edge rusher, wide receiver, cornerback. I'm just wondering

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00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: how you think that might affect you know, the notion

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00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: of either treating into that that spot to get to

1066
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: jump another team or trading back, and you know how

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00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 1: that kind of might affect other teams and their ability

1068
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: to move around there. Yeah, depends who you really like.

1069
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean the guys in there. There's I say again,

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00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: there's super mixed opinion on a lot of these guys.

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00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: So we're one team may like them, I don't know

1072
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: if you can build a consensus so in other teams

1073
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: liking them equally as well. Some fit different schemes, you know,

1074
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: than than others. Um, that's why I look at Elijah

1075
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: Cancy fits as a three technique. He's not gonna fit

1076
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: a three four team. You know, you got guys who

1077
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: can play up end down. How do they view it?

1078
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: Some of the tight ends are they they want more

1079
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: of an h back move guy, which is what Dalton

1080
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: Kink and Luke Musgrave are, which they want more of

1081
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: an inline guy, which is what Michael Marin and Darnell

1082
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: Washington a mark. Um. The receivers, do you want a

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00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: speed guy who's great after the catch and electric, Like

1084
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: I say, Flowers, you want the great route runner like

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00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison. Um, you know, how do you view that?

1086
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: Do you want a guy that has great talent and

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00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: potential but body catches a little too much? That had

1088
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: some drops in Quentin Johnson from TC you so, and

1089
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: then where's b John Robinson to fit in the running back?

1090
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: Mixed opinion on Lucas vand's the potential pass rusher out

1091
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: of Iowa. Um so it just varies. I mean, Brian

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00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: Brazzie out of Clemson, now here's the defensive tackle. Played

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00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: great as a true freshman, then injured and obviously with

1094
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: the situation there, the tragedy was his sister passing away.

1095
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: He had a lot to deal with mentally and physically.

1096
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: So Brian Brazie's acting a player. He's out of the

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00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: Damascus High School here in Maryland. Great kid, tremendous players

1098
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: a freshman. I think he's gonna go in the first

1099
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: round now, but something second round. So again, those are

1100
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: some of the guys that I think are kind of

1101
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: wild cards as the where they are slotted in the draft.

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Speaker 1: We always talk about Carter Brasil. You just mentioned Kancy

1103
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: out of pit we talk about, but is there anyone

1104
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: that you're looking at that you feel I could be

1105
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: a dominant in interior defensive lineman that we're not talking

1106
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: about that could end up being a really good steal.

1107
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: It's a great question. I think Roy at LSU. I've

1108
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: talked about him as an underrated guy. Have not mentioned

1109
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: Mozzi Smith, who's a talented kid defensive line. Coaches need

1110
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: to work with him to maximize audibility. But he's got

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00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: a chance as a second round pick out of Michigan.

1112
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: Carlo Brooks is a really intriguing guy at a Bowling Green.

1113
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: The production in the Mid American Conference was outstanding. He

1114
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: can play. I think it's a three to four d.

1115
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: He could be a four to three defensive tackle. He's

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00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: got a lot of scheme versatility. I think he could

1117
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: be a third round pick that wasn't invited to the

1118
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: combine that will surprise people. Keanu Bent at Wisconsin. People

1119
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: love the potential. I didn't see the production. I think

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Speaker 1: he could go second or third round. Colby Wooden out

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00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: of Auburn's first of all, I see him as more

1122
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: of a three technique. We'll see about him you want

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00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: to nose tackle. It's Siaki Apuka from Baylor. Grevon Dexter

1124
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: tested Will of Florida, had his moments. I'd like to

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00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: see more consistency there. Clark at at Coastal Carolina could

1126
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: be a Day three guy. I thought Colburn at Texas

1127
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: played well, didn't test great. Jalen Redman at Oklahoma is

1128
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: another guy. Roderick martin Western Conty buying young Alabama Ojobo

1129
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: at Texas. There's a lot of defensive tackles. But I

1130
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: think Carl Brooks, because he was not invited to the

1131
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: combine at a Bowling Green, you can put him at

1132
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: endor tackle for the reasons I talked about the versatility

1133
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: from a scheme standpoint, but I think Carl Brooks is interesting.

1134
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: But Roy at LSU is one of my more underrated

1135
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: players in this trap. But there are people who are

1136
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: and I get it, who are Jeremiah guys or you

1137
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: know some of these new age guys. And we love

1138
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: Dane and there's a lot of great people out there.

1139
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: But when it comes time to watch the draft, I'm

1140
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: a keiper guy man. I need to hear his acts.

1141
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: I want to hear his voice. I want to hear

1142
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: his takes, he's it's so fascinating, Like he's he's one

1143
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: of those guys who just invented the medium, and he

1144
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: just created the job. Didn't even exist before him. He's

1145
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: the only man to ever have it. He didn't. It

1146
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: is crazy and he is just he is just in encyclopedia,

1147
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: like it's one of those things where you can ask

1148
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,439
Speaker 1: him about player and not just like in April leading

1149
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: up to the draft, like he he did a show

1150
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: I think it was Darry and mel on ESPN Radio

1151
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: on Saturday mornings. I can remember like ten years ago.

1152
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: They would start asking him. Darry would try to make

1153
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: him miss like in January, and he would bring up

1154
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: a name and he'd be like and I mean literally

1155
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: like throwing darts at like a list of like seven

1156
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: hundred players. And I was like, Oh, yeah, blah blah

1157
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. No, maybe is

1158
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: it staged. I don't think so. Like we we had

1159
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: him on CBD a few times. Every guy we've ever

1160
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: asked him about he never knew that we were going

1161
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: to ask him about him. Yeah, does not need a prep.

1162
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: He does not need to know the questions asked for beforehand.

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01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: He'll be just fine. Uh knows it and still appears

1164
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: to have the exact same passion for it that he

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01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: had thirty some years ago when he started doing it.

1166
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: Still has it, man, And that's interesting you say that

1167
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,439
Speaker 1: and that, and that's interesting to me because I feel

1168
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: like Todd McShay has gone the other way. Now. I

1169
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: know Todd's had some medical stuff going on, and yeah,

1170
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: he's had his share of issues, but like last week

1171
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Speaker 1: his conference call and we played some of it, I mean,

1172
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: he didn't know certain guys, like he just openly was like,

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01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: I really don't know anything about that guy. Yeah, And

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01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: that's not how he used to be, Like he was

1175
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: the he was the heir apparent. And right now I

1176
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: think mel has said I'm still the king. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean Jordan Reid's great. Yeah. I think

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01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: Jordan Reid is ascending Matt Miller, who I know we've

1179
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: had on a few times now. Right Matt's at ESPN,

1180
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: like they've they've got this stable of draft guys, but

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01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody's really positioned themselves as a

1182
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 1: clear cut number two anymore to mel kiper I would

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01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: agree with that um and you mentioned some of the

1184
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, some of the issues with mcshaye beyond that

1185
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: out of his control. But yeah, I've noticed that with

1186
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: him as well. Now just imagine bring a full circle. Now,

1187
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: imagine all of these guys sitting around a table when

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01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: they're doing the draft lottery. Now we've got it. You're

1189
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: you're really trying. I means on that you're bringing it back.

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01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: I think it's a home run. First night and that

1191
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: first night of the combine that Monday night. Come on, man,

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01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: it's gotta be mute. It's gotta be Monday night because

1193
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: Tuesday when all the gms and coaches talk, then it's yeah,

1194
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: you want to know where you're picking at that point.

1195
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's it. You could also if

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01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: you wanted to do it long before that, like earlier

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01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: in the draft process, if you wanted to, uh, you

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01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: could also do it like the Saturday of the you know,

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Speaker 1: you can do it on Super Bowl Sunday. You can

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Speaker 1: do it on the Saturday or Sunday at the NFCFC

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01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: chan And that's where, yeah, I was gonna say, you

1202
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: want to spiff up the nice five hours Super Bowl

1203
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: pregame coverage. Throw a draft lottery into the middle of it.

1204
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: Can I interest you in that? I feel like that

1205
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: would be a U certainly an intriguing thing, to say

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01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: the least, uh speak of intriguing. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: closely you've looked beyond the Cavaliers and the Knicks. These

1208
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: NBA playoffs are sensational. We'll do some power rankings of

1209
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: that coming up. Your conversation with Glenn Cook coming up

1210
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: in about fifteen minutes from now. You listen to Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Cleveland Browns Daily,

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought you by ballely Bet Coming

1215
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how how think we get Oldac on the board? Give?

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01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: I mean like this is like, here's a my box.

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Speaker 1: Just stay between the navigational beacons. Boys. I think old

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01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: is old. AK and I were talking about He's been

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01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: there since before the sun came up, So you've been

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01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: in the same room. It is fine in January when

1222
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: it's snowing side ways, it's not so great when it's

1223
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Speaker 1: eighty two and sunny out, but we appreciate all of

1224
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Speaker 1: his help today. Chris, you in on the NFL Draft lottery. Boh,

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01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm kind of with you. How great.

1226
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: At first, when I heard you say it, I was like,

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01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: you know what, that's kind of ridiculous. The more I've

1228
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: heard you talk about it, I don't hate it. I mean,

1229
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Speaker 1: next year, Caleb Williams Drake may come on Super Bowl Sunday,

1230
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: little half hour lottery show bing bong balls. Who are

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Speaker 1: the bottom three teams in your estimation vying for that Bucks?

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01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: And go? Let me see Bucks for sure. Well, what's

1233
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: interesting about this is like if you think about who

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01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: you think the bottom three that you think that they

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01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: will be, juxtapose what they actually were. If you went

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01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: back a year ago this time, I would have said

1237
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: Seattle and they end up going in the other way.

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01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: Bucks for sure. I'm curious what Houston does. I could

1239
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: see Houston still being bad, and then I feel like

1240
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: Chicago better take a step. I want to go to

1241
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: an AFC team just because the AFC is so loaded,

1242
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: Like could it be Tennessee if they go like if

1243
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: there's you know or I don't know, because the problem

1244
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: is that the NFC is so bad that some of

1245
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: those teams that you feel like would be tanking are

1246
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: going to stumble into wins. We're about the Raiders Garoppolo though,

1247
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: like if I guess if he got hurt, they could

1248
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: lean into it, but he's too good to Like tank

1249
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: Arizona could absolutely be in that spot, Like they could

1250
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: take a red shirt ear for Kyler. Yes, yeah, yeah,

1251
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: they could take a red shirt ear. That would make

1252
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: some sense for them. A lot of these other places,

1253
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: though it's hard. You know, it's hard to see. You

1254
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: think maybe somebody in the in the NFC East, Like

1255
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: could the Commies get bad enough to where they do it? Maybe?

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. The arrow is only up now that

1257
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: Dan Snyder is selling team. Yeah, yeah, that's we gave

1258
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: the fix for that pretty quickly. Like you just rebrand

1259
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: that sucker, you get that stadium built in the district,

1260
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: and then away you go. Um, there's there's a lot

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01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: of options that are turned that thing around. That's that's

1262
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: one of the worst stewardships of an organization in the

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01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: history of sport. The twenty plus years at Snyder to

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Speaker 1: take one of the most proud, wealthy organizations in the sport.

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Speaker 1: And in the old days when they when they would

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Speaker 1: first do like the Forbes most Valuable, the then Washington

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Speaker 1: Redskins were always right there with the Cowboys as the

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Speaker 1: two most valuable teams in the NFL. And to think

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Speaker 1: what has happened there over those years is a pretty

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Speaker 1: stunning thing, to say the least. But the beautiful part

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Speaker 1: of of of my lottery proposal is, you know, really

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Speaker 1: one through eight would all be involved. You're all going

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Speaker 1: to be in the mix, you know, and and then

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Speaker 1: that changes things a great deal. Um, all right, we've

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Speaker 1: got uh some NBA fund We've got Obviously we'll be

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Speaker 1: paying a lot of attention tomorrow at six, but beyond

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Speaker 1: that and we'll spend some time on that too. These West,

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Speaker 1: some of these West battles are nuts. I mean, Lakers

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Speaker 1: in Memphis, Golden State and Sacramento, Phoenix and the Clippers

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Speaker 1: all of those would pass his conference finals. Could the

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Speaker 1: West is just insane, just insane. I mean, everything that's

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Speaker 1: going on with John Morant and yeah, in Memphis, somehow

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Speaker 1: they're the two seats Sacramento when they just broke a

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Speaker 1: giant playoff list streak. Yeah, now they're going to be

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Speaker 1: home against Congratulations, you get Golden State. I saw this

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Speaker 1: earlier this week that they are playing on ABC for

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Speaker 1: the first time since like two thousand and two. Sacramento. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like the Webber Bibbie, Divac Stoyakovich kings that, that's how

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Speaker 1: long you got to go back? Those were fun teams

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Speaker 1: they were. Yeah, to me, that feels like a blank.

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Speaker 1: Many people listening probably weren't even alive and have no

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Speaker 1: point of reference of Chris Webber, the Sacramento king. Um,

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Speaker 1: but that's the way that goes. All right, you want

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Speaker 1: to do you would do a little power ranking here, Gibbey, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we should. Let's go. I'm for it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who's your number one overall? Milwaukee? I because

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Speaker 1: you follow the NBA closer than me, is there? I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's Milwaukee right to me, it's gotta be Milwaukee. Um,

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Speaker 1: and I think the number two is Boston. Like to me,

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Speaker 1: the top two teams in the NBA right now that

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Speaker 1: are left, it's in the East. I don't promise that.

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Speaker 1: I think you could dang near go Philly, and they

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Speaker 1: might be I could listen to that argument, you might one, two,

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Speaker 1: three East, But I think this is what we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to here, is is that it's the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the West because of the aging star power that's in

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Speaker 1: the West. So if the you could make an argue

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Speaker 1: the top three teams that they're in the East and

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Speaker 1: then spots like four through where would the Calves fit.

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Speaker 1: Not necessarily in terms of the health of the organization

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Speaker 1: or how much you like the team, but just from

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Speaker 1: the perspective of like, is there a scenario where you

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Speaker 1: can see the Cavaliers winning the NBA Championship? To me,

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Speaker 1: that seems too soon, Like you're not making that step now. Conversely, like,

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Speaker 1: could I see Golden State? Yeah? I could. I just

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Speaker 1: saw it last year. I could see that for sure.

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Speaker 1: But bo, I think the interesting part of that conversation

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Speaker 1: is if the Calves were in the West right now,

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Speaker 1: not even based on seating, you could look at that

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Speaker 1: and say, realistically they could win the West. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think you can say that about these because you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to go through Milwaukee, assuming you beat the

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Speaker 1: Knicks in the first round, and then in all likelihood

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Speaker 1: either the Sixers or the Celtics. Yes, yeah, no, that's

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Speaker 1: but that's the That's the tricky thing is you could

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Speaker 1: be the East is so top heavy and the West

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Speaker 1: is just absurdly balanced. You could almost make the case,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the eight's not coming out of the West,

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Speaker 1: but like what you would, I wouldn't be shocked if

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Speaker 1: Lebron did it one more time and drug the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, the Lakers are going to

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Speaker 1: beat Memphis. Well, yeah, I agree with and you know

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Speaker 1: how I feel about that guy out there. I agree

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Speaker 1: with you. They're playing really good. Yeah, and I think

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Speaker 1: in more rest in you know, first round? How the

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Speaker 1: first round series last what six months? I mean all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, you take it three weeks off between games,

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01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 1: plenty of time to rest and him and him in

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Speaker 1: a d in a in a long series, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I like that. And they sneakily got a lot better

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Speaker 1: at the deadline when people thought that they really couldn't

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Speaker 1: um So they're a lot more versaile in Memphis is

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01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: it's as you mentioned, Gibby, it's been a circus there

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Speaker 1: the last two months. I still like Denver. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: where I don't know where i'd put them in my

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Speaker 1: power rankings, but their length and like when they were

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Speaker 1: here in that overtime game against US, My god, they've

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Speaker 1: got some weapons for sure. It's just they have to

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Speaker 1: just you know, they're at the point in their gestation

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Speaker 1: where they just have to go do it. He's won

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Speaker 1: back to back MVPs, like it's time to go do

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Speaker 1: it a little bit, so I think there's a little

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01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: bit of pressure on them. And then you think about

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Speaker 1: Kawhi with the Clippers. You think about Durant in Phoenix,

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Speaker 1: Golden State, if healthy, some of the Golden State numbers.

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Speaker 1: When they have their ideal five, it's it's stunning. When

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Speaker 1: they have their true starting five. And it sounds like

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Speaker 1: they're gonna I don't know what's exactly going on with Wiggins,

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Speaker 1: but it sounds like're gonna have them all in the way.

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Speaker 1: They'll think Wiggins is coming off the bench, they gonna

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Speaker 1: bring him off. Yeah, yeah, So more versatility there for them. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys feel like if they I mean to me,

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Speaker 1: it feels like at the start of the year, one

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Speaker 1: of the things that I do in the mornings, how

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Speaker 1: are we going to judge a team, right. So what

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Speaker 1: I mean by that is like with Buckeye football, you'll

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Speaker 1: say national championship, you know, beat Michigan, win the Big Ten,

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Speaker 1: judge them off of that, hold him to that standard.

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Speaker 1: Like this year at the Calves. To me, when I

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Speaker 1: looked at the roster, I said, go get to the

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Speaker 1: second round. Like, I don't care what your record is

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Speaker 1: in between now and then, but to me, this should

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Speaker 1: be a second round team. And I do think like

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Speaker 1: if they're not as fun as this has all been,

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Speaker 1: it ends up a little hollow. I think that's fair.

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Speaker 1: I think you could look at it and say, once

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Speaker 1: the Calves got Donovan Mitchell, I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: expectations change, not to title. But bo, I've been with you.

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Speaker 1: I said all year that you gotta get out of

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Speaker 1: the first round because you hear the cliche all the time. Well,

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Speaker 1: you've got to get there and lose before you can

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Speaker 1: get there and win. But at the same time, if

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Speaker 1: you followed that like step by step process of at

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Speaker 1: just advancing to the next level each year, you're talking

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01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 1: a five year thing here, So you gotta gotta win

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01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: a series this year, but next year. I think with

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Speaker 1: the development of Mobli, you can talk about the calves

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Speaker 1: at least contending to win the East. So I look

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Speaker 1: at this and I say, for the Calves to your point,

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Speaker 1: bo Hollow, Yes, disappointing, yes, but not necessarily a failure

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Speaker 1: because I think you've seen a lot of people. And

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Speaker 1: it's funny because as we live in a day and

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Speaker 1: age now where if you don't get what you want,

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Speaker 1: people just considered a failure. And a lot of good

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01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: things have happened this year with the Calves where I

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Speaker 1: just can't sit here and say total failure if you

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Speaker 1: don't win. Chris. Have you Are you old enough to

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01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 1: have seen a movie called The Big Lebowski? I am. Yes.

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01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 1: There's a scene where the dude Jeffrey Lebowski is in

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Speaker 1: a study with the millionaire Jeffrey Lebowski, and the millionaire

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01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Lebowski says to the dude, he hands him a

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Speaker 1: slip and it's a ransom for Bunny. Lebowski's either sent

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01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: a toe or something like that. I can't remember the

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01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: exact specifics, but it's a ransom note. And the dude says,

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Speaker 1: it's a bummer, man, it's a bummer, And that's what

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01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: it would be if the I mean, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: not the end of the world. If they don't get

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Speaker 1: to the second round, it'd be a bummer man, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's where there I want them. I want them in

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Speaker 1: the second round. I want it going like six games

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01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 1: where it gets a little uncomfortable. Maybe it's yeah, in

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01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: the early rounds, is it two three two or is

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01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 1: it two two one one one? I know they move

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Speaker 1: it around a little bit. I can't remember if it's

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Speaker 1: I think the finals is still two two one one one.

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01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,879
Speaker 1: I believe it is two two one one one throughout

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01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: at least I know for them. I'm looking at the

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Speaker 1: first round. Okay, so they're two two one one one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I think what you would want, Okay, So what

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Speaker 1: I think would be ideal is if you could I

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Speaker 1: think in the first round, anything where you win is

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Speaker 1: a win. I mean, a game seven here against the Knicks,

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Speaker 1: are you kidd mee? That's unbelievable? But anything playing if

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Speaker 1: you get to the point where you play Milwaukee, the

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01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: value of playing like what would essentially be on a

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Speaker 1: two two one one one, a game six here, even

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Speaker 1: a game four here. You know where that matters a

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01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 1: game four that matters. Would be really cool to play

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01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: something like that, you know, down to one or something

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01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 1: like that and then getting a win and even the

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01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: season to two. There's a lot of value to that.

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01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 1: And the only thing I would say, and I think

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01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: it buttresses your point, Chris, like Donovan Mitchell's in his prime.

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01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: Like he's not three years from his prime. This is

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01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: his prime, right, so you do have to not this year,

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01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: but next year you've got to go and to that

1437
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: point though, two, I wonder if in two years, let's

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Speaker 1: say Donovan Mitchell, I think the hope is that he's

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01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: not the guy, and that's Evan Mobley. Sure, so imagine

1440
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Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell still in his prime, but maybe toward the

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01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: back of it with him not having to be the

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Speaker 1: main focal point. Because look, I don't think anybody would

1443
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: say if the Calves are gonna go anywhere this year

1444
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 1: in the postseason, it's because of Donovan Mitchell, like he

1445
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: is the guy, yes, but moving forward, you hope and

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01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: you you want that to be Evan Mobley because of

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01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: all of the comparisons we've already heard here in the

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01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,560
Speaker 1: first couple of seasons. And I have to say in

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Speaker 1: the back half of the year. Really since the All

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01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 1: Star breaks of the last twenty plus games. I think

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01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: Evan Mobile has taken a ton of leaps in his

1452
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 1: game for sure, and but he's just not there yet

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01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: to lead a team in the postseason. No, I mean

1454
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: they set up. They're set up so well because they

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01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 1: can go from the absolute apex of Donovan Mitchell's prime,

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01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: so hopefully at that same time Garland went, by the

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Speaker 1: time he's going out of that, Garland and Mobile are

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01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 1: going into it. So they're set up that way very

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Speaker 1: very well. All right, good stuff, but he always good

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Speaker 1: talking to. Yet coming up next, a little bit a

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Speaker 1: highlight from the BPA as we sit down with assistant

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Speaker 1: general manager Glenn Cook. You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily

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Speaker 1: on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally bed Coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. The NFL Draft just a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks away. Now, a lot of the heavy lifting already done.

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Speaker 1: It's about organizing, thoughts. One of the men who's going

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Speaker 1: to organize some of ours around here is as a

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Speaker 1: general manager, Glenn Cook. Here. He is one on one

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Speaker 1: with GiB A and an excerpt from the BPA. Let's

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Speaker 1: get right into it, Glenn. From a free agency standpoint,

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Speaker 1: you take a look. You guys have been very active

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01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 1: over the past month and a half, and it may

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01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: have taken a few more days than maybe. I know

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01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: the fan base was clamoring for some things right away,

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01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: but you know, given the current contract situations and whatnot

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01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 1: with this football team, things we're going to have to develop,

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01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: especially on the market side. When you go to put

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01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: together free agency. Is there a big board similar to

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01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 1: what you see with the draft in your big board

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01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 1: that you put together? Short answer, yes, I mean I

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01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: think the first thing we do is kind of try

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01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: to step back look at our own team. Right so

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01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 1: closer to the end of the season early January, you

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01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: kind of want to zoom out, be as objective and

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01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: honest with yourself as possible and say, hey, what do

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01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 1: where do we need to get better? You know, where

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01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 1: do we need to make some improvements if we're trying

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01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs and compete for championships. So we

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01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: kind of started start started there, really assessed, you know,

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01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: who we are, who we were, and where we want

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01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: to go. And then Yeah, you start to build it out.

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01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 1: Then you look at the marketplace, you look at who's available.

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01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: Everyone knows who's a free agent, um, you know who's

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01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: in RFAM. You know who potentially could be available for

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01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: a trade, which we'll probably talk about um, and you

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01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: just you try to map out, okay, what where's that

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01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: nice blend of we need this, we want this, and

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01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 1: this is available, right, and so that's kind of how

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Speaker 1: we just approached it. That's a real probably simplistic way

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01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: of describing it. And we do that over the course

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01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 1: of you know, really two to three months as a

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01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 1: group and you know, just run through a bunch of

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01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 1: different exercises and really challenge ourselves to make sure we

1505
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 1: know who's out there and you know, what's going to

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01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: be the best avenue to add them to our team.

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01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 1: And then you know you end up yeah, right, a

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01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: bunch of checks. Yeah, you know, obviously we don't have

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01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: to do yeah, someone else does that, but yeah, but

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01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: you guys set it all up and yeah where the

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01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: Domino's fall. I love the process because you think about

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01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,600
Speaker 1: for your agency is you you know, you plan all

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01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: the way to Z and you just don't know, you know,

1514
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: like you know, there's different factors, different different drivers for

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01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 1: these for these men as they make these decisions, and

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01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 1: we just we try to stay as agile as possible.

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01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: I think Andrews talked about that, just being adaptable and

1518
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 1: trying to be as adal as possible in these situations

1519
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 1: and and go get dudes. We want you know, we

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01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: want in Cleveland. All right, So you guys start working

1521
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: with your with your scouts and your your analytics people

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01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 1: and and just it's it's a very collaborative process. But

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01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,560
Speaker 1: then you then you meet with the coach. Yeah, and

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01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: you've got two new coordinators that you're also throwing into

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01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 1: the mix on that in a new defensive coordinator, a

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01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: new special teams coordinator. What what is the process of that?

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01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: Are you bringing in position coaches as well? In that situation?

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01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 1: So Kevin is I mean with the offensive that it

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01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: was easy, right, Like Kevin's here, Um, that's an ongoing conversation, right.

1530
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 1: You're always talking about your team week to week, you know,

1531
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 1: partly trying to make sure you have what you need

1532
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: in season to perform and uh play as well as

1533
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 1: you can on each side of the ball. But then

1534
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: as you're evaluating, you're you're just constantly checking the pulse

1535
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: of coach, both coaches, both coordinators UM to get a

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01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,600
Speaker 1: sense of like, hey, you know, I really need this.

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01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 1: You know, this will really put us in a good

1538
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 1: spot as a unit. UM. And you know, bringing in

1539
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: Jim a little bit later probably makes that a little

1540
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 1: bit tougher, but you know, he's pretty clear and definitive

1541
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 1: of what he wants, so excited. It expedited the process

1542
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: for us UM. But yeah, it's it's like you said,

1543
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:58,560
Speaker 1: it's collaborative. We're we're always working together and in conversation,

1544
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 1: I mean on every move, on every move. Even still

1545
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 1: as we're working through some of the guys who are

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01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 1: potentially still available UM on the street as we call it, Uh,

1547
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: we're constantly hey, Jim, you know, can you take a

1548
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: peek or keV, what do you think about this guy?

1549
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: Do you think he fits UM? You know, whether it's

1550
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 1: adding depth or you know something. You know, there's just

1551
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 1: some guys that are still out there for for a

1552
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,560
Speaker 1: various amount of reasons. So it's great. You know, the

1553
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: communication is important. Use it's not only talent, but you

1554
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: do want to make sure the fit is good, you know,

1555
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 1: I think that's really important. So you have to talk

1556
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: to the coaches to make sure, like, hey, this guy's

1557
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: gonna fit right, you want to make sure this works

1558
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: along those lines of making it a fit. And we'll

1559
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 1: get into the draft process and the interviews. But something

1560
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 1: that I've heard you mentioned over the over the last

1561
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 1: few months is that second and third hand info and

1562
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: like information about the player as a person. You know,

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01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 1: how much of an impact is that in terms of

1564
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: your free age agency because you have guys, there's a

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01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 1: certain window that you can start talking to players and

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01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: talking to their agents and it's got to be a

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01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 1: quick turnaround in some instances. So is it the same

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01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 1: amount of research going into finding out about their background

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01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: and who they are as much as it is what

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01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,879
Speaker 1: they've done on the field. Look like we say information

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01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 1: is game like, it's it's important, it's it's like a

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01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 1: strong amount of currency in our business. So you know, first,

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01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: the foundation is set really by the college process. You know,

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01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: we change and evolve as people and humans, but kind

1575
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 1: of you are who you are at your course, so

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01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 1: we do lean on like, hey, you know three or

1577
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: four years ago, this is what we knew about this person,

1578
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 1: and you just kind of build off that So it's

1579
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: a fine line because you you know, you reach out

1580
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 1: to your connects, but they're also sometimes trying to keep

1581
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: guys in their building. So you know, you just you

1582
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: try to absorb and acquire as much information about, you know,

1583
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:04,799
Speaker 1: how they've grown or maintained or maybe still been stagnant

1584
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 1: in their growth as NFL players, and just he lump

1585
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 1: it into the pie. Right, it's just a big soup

1586
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 1: that you're just trying to figure out, like, hey, how's

1587
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: this guy gonna fit into our organization? Because he may

1588
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 1: have fit in the place he was at or he

1589
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: may not have fit well into that place. But for us,

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01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: you know, we actually think it's it's a better fit

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01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: or worse fit. So it's definitely important to make sure.

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01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 1: And one of the things we talk about is, you know,

1593
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 1: once once let's they get out of college, you don't

1594
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 1: want to change and ask guys not to do what

1595
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: they've done well, Like Dalvin Tomlinson has been really good

1596
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: at doing what he does. Like, we're not gonna ask him,

1597
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, to turn into a different player. We want

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01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 1: him to come here and be great in the manner

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01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: that he's been great. So it's really important to make sure,

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01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: we lock in on that on and off the field,

1601
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 1: because that's that's a big piece and we found success

1602
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 1: in that formula. And let's go into some of these

1603
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 1: guys that we've gone out and acquired here over the

1604
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: over the past month, it's been a flurry of guys.

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01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, the first few days were quiet, but

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01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: I think it's I think that was that way for

1607
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 1: a lot of teams around the National Football League this year,

1608
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: just kind of wanting to see where the market was

1609
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 1: going to be set at. And then you had the

1610
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: opportunity to go in and of course you guys had

1611
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: a plan, you were prepared, and you took care of

1612
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 1: business relatively quickly. It starts with Dalvin Tomlinson at defensive

1613
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 1: tackle on the edge. Uh it's Ogbo? Did I had

1614
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 1: that right? Ogbo? Yeah? Sure, Dobb's saying, yes, it's called him.

1615
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 1: I literally every day we have the conversation on Brown's daily.

1616
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,560
Speaker 1: So how do we say it again? How do we

1617
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: say just call him? I like that? So, and then

1618
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: on the defensive side as well, a couple other guys

1619
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 1: rotational type players on the defensive line. But you also

1620
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: go out and get a safety and Wan Thornhill. So

1621
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,040
Speaker 1: three big pieces that you've gone out and acquired. You

1622
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about them and what you guys

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01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: liked about them. Yeah, I'll start up front, because we

1624
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, for us, that was, as you can see,

1625
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: a point of emphasis, not only because of where we

1626
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 1: are or were as a team, but just because how

1627
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: important we think it is to be really good up front,

1628
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: like I said, to compete, you know, in the National

1629
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: Football League. So Dalvin was big literally and figuratively. He's

1630
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 1: a big man. He can chose the interior part of

1631
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, and we wanted to really, you know,

1632
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 1: make sure we solidified the front and supportive Miles and

1633
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 1: some of our younger guys who are still growing and developing.

1634
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 1: So Dalvin fit that. You know, I think as you'll

1635
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 1: probably get to know you just as get off the

1636
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: field as a leader, set in an example as he

1637
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: is on the fieldmaking play. So to kind of have

1638
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 1: him as the cornerstone of the frigid process this year,

1639
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 1: I would say, is it's probably a pretty good sign

1640
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: we want you want guys like him. So he really

1641
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: he was, really, he really was a good getting really

1642
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 1: important for us to get. And then oh, I mean,

1643
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 1: probably a little underrated, and you know, we're excited about him.

1644
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 1: We'll see, you know, we're excited about what he can do.

1645
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: He probably had one of the best years, if not

1646
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: the best years, of his career. So we're going to

1647
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: continue to put him in a spot to do what

1648
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 1: he does well. Like, the dude gets after the quarterback.

1649
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: He's relentless. Second half of the season. He was one

1650
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: of the top edge rushers in the National Football absolutely,

1651
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: and so you know that's the next piece, right, Like,

1652
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 1: when you can affect these really really good quarterbacks and

1653
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: the division we play in and the conference we play

1654
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 1: in period, the league gives you a better chance. And

1655
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 1: so you know, hopefully him, Miles Dalvin and the crew

1656
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 1: can get after these dudes we're about to face next year.

1657
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 1: So being able to get him and hopefully you know,

1658
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 1: catch him on the uptick was was really good for us.

1659
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: And then yeah, wee like you know, sometimes as you

1660
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 1: just want good football player. You know, the guy the

1661
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 1: guys won two Super Bowls. Um, he's anchored the back

1662
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: end of a pretty good secondary in Kansas City. Um,

1663
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: he fits a skill set we want. The dude has range,

1664
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 1: he makes plays on the ball, he can run, he

1665
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 1: brings energy. Um, you'll see he you know you maybe

1666
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: you've seen a little bit. He has a lot of personality. Um,

1667
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 1: he brings juice in that way. So again, like you

1668
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: want to be as deep, versatile and as talented as

1669
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: you can with the way offense has played in this league,

1670
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: So being able to bring him in, you know, like

1671
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 1: you said, it wasn't wasn't the first wave, and it

1672
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 1: kind of kind of just ended up being a fit, right,

1673
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 1: Like he wanted to be here, We wanted him here. Uh,

1674
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 1: we figured it out, you know. So it looks like

1675
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: we were intentional about fixing the defense and in some ways,

1676
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: but honestly we were just trying to acquire like really

1677
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: good guys like you don't want to overthink it and

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Speaker 1: we need this position, we need this player. Sure, you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you just want to be as talented as you

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Speaker 1: can as well. So that's how it played out. Great

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Speaker 1: stuff out of Glenn, Great stuff out of Gibbet. You

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Speaker 1: gonna have a fun week next week. We've got players

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Speaker 1: end of the year, first time we've seen some of

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Speaker 1: very exciting, hopefully if some guys stop by the studio.

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Speaker 1: We have some pressers available next week as well. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have coaches and gms and everything. Right, it's the

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Speaker 1: pre draft thirty minute presser where we learn nothing. Nothing

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Speaker 1: there in the third for their credit. You know, maybe

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Speaker 1: they'll be a little more open because it's third round,

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Speaker 1: you know, because you're not gonna you can't mean you

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Speaker 1: know what I said. Who I want to hear from.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear from coach talking about our free

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Speaker 1: agent signings. I want to hear Yeah, that's you know

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Speaker 1: what about our pieces that we've that we've acquired here

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Speaker 1: in the last month. I agree, Yeah, that's the headliner. Folks,

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