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Speaker 1: dot Com. There we go on the Giants let him,

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Speaker 1: let's go out of the Giants podcast Network. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: this week's rapid reaction here on the Giants Huddle Podcast.

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Speaker 1: The Giants went down to Dallas and fell to the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys twenty to twenty. My name is Madeline Burke, joined

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Speaker 1: today by two times Super Bowl champion former Giants linebacker

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Speaker 1: Jonathan because Cus j C. This is a tough loss

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Speaker 1: for the Giants. Of course, the oh and two in

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Speaker 1: the division now, both losses to the Dallas Cowboys not good,

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Speaker 1: especially heading into this stretch of all NFC East teams

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Speaker 1: that they have to face to the Commanders twice, the

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Speaker 1: Eagles twice. Other teams thrown in there. But that's the

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Speaker 1: main thing we're talking about the division, right The Giants

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Speaker 1: have to get out of this division and how it's

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Speaker 1: looking right now with the Commander's surgeon. This next week

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Speaker 1: game is going to be a pivotal point for the

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Speaker 1: season for sure. Absolutely before we go look ahead, we

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Speaker 1: gotta look at this one right now, because this was

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Speaker 1: a tale of two a half. The Giants were the

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Speaker 1: first to score, uh they had a touchdown that was

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Speaker 1: called back after a penalty, settled for a field goal,

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Speaker 1: go up three nothing. They go into the half up

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Speaker 1: thirteen to seven, feeling good, having a lot of positive momentum.

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Speaker 1: But then coming out of the half, Dallas goes on

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Speaker 1: a long drive seven minutes and thirty nine seconds off

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Speaker 1: the clock, ending in a fifteen yard Dalton Schultz touchdown,

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Speaker 1: putting the Cowboys up fourteen thirteen. And it's just after

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Speaker 1: that the Giants couldn't find their rhythm. They go for

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Speaker 1: it on fourth down. On the ensuing drive, ten players

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Speaker 1: on the field sake one Barkley kind of fingertips a

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Speaker 1: low past, doesn't catch it. It just seemed to go

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Speaker 1: downhill from there. Jucy. Yeah, you know when you play games,

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Speaker 1: every single game, there's momentum, right, the dependulum that swings

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Speaker 1: back and forth. The Cowboys took the momentum back by

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Speaker 1: slowing it down, having a fourteen fifteen play drive was

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Speaker 1: fifteen play, a fifteen plays, fourteen plays, seventy five yard

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Speaker 1: drive to start the second half right, And then the

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Speaker 1: Giants they wanted to get the momentum back right, like

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Speaker 1: the first game of the season when they went forward

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Speaker 1: late in the game. For Yeah, it was a ball's

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Speaker 1: he play. But that's how you get the momentum on

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Speaker 1: your side. And that's when the Giants failed to convert

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Speaker 1: that And we talked about it earlier on the show.

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Speaker 1: Say Kwan, you're the guy. You gotta make that catch.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if Daniel Jones didn't throw you the

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Speaker 1: best Paul best ball. Daniel Jones took full accountability for.

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Speaker 1: But say, Kwan, you're that guy. We all love you.

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Speaker 1: He knows it too, he has to make that play

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Speaker 1: and that way, everybody looks smart. Yeah, everybody looks smart

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Speaker 1: when you make the play. You know, nobody looks dumb

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Speaker 1: because ten guys are on the field. Yeah, that's not good.

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Speaker 1: When you talk about playing like, you know, making plays

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Speaker 1: and right calling fourth going for the fourth down in

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Speaker 1: a bad situation on the field, execution is number one,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't execute. Ten guys on the field is

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Speaker 1: literally starting handicapped. Yeah, absolutely, I mean, but the fact

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Speaker 1: ball almost was caught by tick bar this is a

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Speaker 1: lot right there, um And to your point, yeah sake,

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Speaker 1: one should have caught that ball. Daniel should have thrown

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Speaker 1: a better ball. Both things can be true, neither one were,

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Speaker 1: and the Giants turn it over on downs on their

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Speaker 1: own forty four. That results in yet another touchdown drive,

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Speaker 1: another Dalton Shoults touchdown, putting Dallas. That momentum stayed over there.

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Speaker 1: It stayed, and you know, Brian Dable was asked about, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: he said, you know, it was important to do something

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Speaker 1: that long Cowboys offensive drive. The Giants defense has just

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Speaker 1: been on the field for nearly eight minutes. He wanted

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Speaker 1: to show I believe in this team, and sometimes it works,

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Speaker 1: sometimes it pays off, and sometimes, as we saw there,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't um. You know. Sa Juan Barkley talked about

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Speaker 1: defense is not their strength. They really locked down Sa Kwan.

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Speaker 1: And look, if if you're Kafka, right, you you design

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Speaker 1: Under twenty just barely broke ten. If you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: even somebody. People have to step up. I think Daniel Jones. Look,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna see and uh four hundred

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Speaker 1: he can make Daniel Jones better. I think Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: think you can make guys that ain't really you know,

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Speaker 1: no shade to none of these guys. But when you

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Speaker 1: look at comparatively the Dallas Cowboys receivers against the Giant receivers,

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Speaker 1: it's not even close. You know, Ceedee Lamb is going

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Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb tough. Ceedee Lamb had guys draped over him

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Speaker 1: all game, made contested catches and Gallop too. We we

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Speaker 1: we didn't really speak at all about Gallop. Gallup also

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Speaker 1: was making contested catches the entire game. The Giants don't

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Speaker 1: really have guys like that can do that on a

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Speaker 1: We did see forty four yard bomb that Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: a great catch that translated one play later into a

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Speaker 1: especially the last couple of losses that the Giants have had.

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Speaker 1: You need to stretch the ball down a field. You

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Speaker 1: have to have safeties that are not driving on these routes,

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Speaker 1: play five to six yards deep. That's not deep. That's

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Speaker 1: That gives you opportunity to make plays. And because of that,

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Speaker 1: the post game show that we just did special teams

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Speaker 1: the defense is not good enough to have the special

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Speaker 1: a broadcaster. Ladies and gentlemen. UH. Two times Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: champion Jonathan cause See is joining me. Madeline Burke, thanks

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Speaker 1: But a lot of ballgame left this season. We'll see

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