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Speaker 5: Good morning, swivel and welcome to the Now Dumps podcast

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Speaker 4: Oh, Ferrari did great. Maybe Graden will bring like a

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Speaker 5: Okay, so no breaks. That's later today. Let's get into

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Speaker 5: last night's games though, some really entertaining games, some interesting endings.

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Speaker 5: Let's start though, with Tyrese Maxi leading the shorthanded seventy

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Speaker 3: It sure is the second night of a back to back.

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Speaker 3: Miami Heat went in as eight point favorites in this game, understandably,

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Speaker 3: They tried to get him in every single action there

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Speaker 3: and they did, and Tyree's just took over hit those

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Maxi took over, as Lelee said, down the final

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Speaker 2: It was wonderful. And yeah, they got a full squad

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Speaker 2: Milton We're going to score twenty points to average twenty

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Speaker 2: This is not sustainable getting quork Mas and Shake Milton.

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Speaker 2: Maxi has been great, but the Kneangs. You just can't

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Speaker 2: great team win and all that for sure. After losing

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Speaker 2: but James startn has to come out and be better

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Speaker 2: then they just didn't get enough production from PJ. Tucker,

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I worry about Jimmy Butler just because, you know,

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Speaker 2: I just don't know how great he's going to look

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Speaker 2: Gaatee Benson was also out of this game. I think

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder what the stats are. I can't imagine

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Speaker 4: You need his shooting as well. But we just saw

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Speaker 4: But this did not look good. And Hero can't be

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's an ultimate wild card. Actually, I think when

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Speaker 4: He could do that.

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Speaker 5: But if they're going to expose him and really go

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was I thought he was moving really well.

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Speaker 4: very excited to watch Patrick Williams versus Scottie Barnes. Hopefully

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Speaker 2: The cool looking guy too, I forgot about that. Maybe

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Speaker 4: I don't know why.

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Speaker 2: He's just got to go and he's Yeah, he's huge

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Speaker 5: And when you talk Lonzo, like, everybody brings up like, oh,

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00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,680
Speaker 5: the perimeter defense, like that's just like a huge part

431
00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,040
Speaker 5: of how the Bulls got off to that hot start,

432
00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,560
Speaker 5: and that's totally true. But I think they forget and

433
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,439
Speaker 5: try you this better than anyone. Like guy gives them

434
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,720
Speaker 5: a three point shot, takes a three point shot, was

435
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,200
Speaker 5: hitting like at an unbelievable clip here, you know, before

436
00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,640
Speaker 5: the injury. So just like he's doing it on both ends,

437
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,200
Speaker 5: just being a bit of a floor spacer. So yeah,

438
00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,760
Speaker 5: that sucks though it sounds like he's not gonna be

439
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:15,639
Speaker 5: back for the regular season here.

440
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bulls are thirtieth and three point attempts twenty eighth

441
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 4: in makes they just need somebody to shoot, and which

442
00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,440
Speaker 4: is why I'm like, anytime Levine passes it up, I'm like,

443
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,439
Speaker 4: I would take any Zach Lavine shot, even if it's

444
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,639
Speaker 4: got two hands in his face. But yeah, the Lonzo

445
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,879
Speaker 4: news doesn't sound good. To stop him from running and

446
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 4: cutting for ten days when there's like ten days left

447
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,680
Speaker 4: in the season, I wouldn't be surprised if it's next

448
00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:36,639
Speaker 4: year that Lonzo's back.

449
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,760
Speaker 5: So we shall see big, big win though for Chicago.

450
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 5: Tough loss for the Raptors. They're trying to chase the

451
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,200
Speaker 5: Bulls in the standings and they're trying to chase the

452
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 5: Calves to get out of the play in tournament and

453
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 5: Cleveland loses last night task. But the Raps can't make

454
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 5: up that game because we had Lebron with the massive

455
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,360
Speaker 5: triple double duncan on Kevin Love and then getting into

456
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 5: a headlock fight with him as he helps the Lakers

457
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,159
Speaker 5: get the you need a victory as well as they

458
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:01,719
Speaker 5: beat Cleveland.

459
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those out of this world Lebron

460
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 2: performances where he's thirty seven years of age that you

461
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 2: can really enjoy because they wont you know, it's not

462
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 2: one of those sure forty and a loss. You know,

463
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 2: they came out and they put one hundred and thirty

464
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,160
Speaker 2: one up on the Calves and the Calves I think

465
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,399
Speaker 2: we're kind of sitting back and watching Lebron and enjoying

466
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 2: the show. So that's what coach Bickerstaff said after the game,

467
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 2: and you could just see it. It seemed like Lebron

468
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 2: was in a gym by himself at times, the one

469
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 2: legged fades in the lane of definitely Lebronto flashbacks. I mean,

470
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 2: he's good against he was great against the Reps back

471
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 2: in the day. He's great against the Cavs. He's seventeen

472
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 2: and one against the Calves all time. Now, so he

473
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 2: got to thirty eight points, eleven boards, and twelve assists. Again,

474
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 2: it just felt like he was in the gym by himself.

475
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 2: Thirty points per game. Now he's at officially leading the

476
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 2: scoring race thirty point zero. That's a I like that.

477
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 2: I definitely like that round number. Yeah, that one makes sense.

478
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 2: You know, we make up stats all time. This guy

479
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 2: is leading the league in scoring. He's thirty seven years age,

480
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 2: he's thirty points per game, and yeah, you know he

481
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 2: needed some great performances from his teammates. Twenty points from

482
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 2: DJ Augustine. That's a little mid season pickup. He was

483
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 2: seven of seven from three point Land and Russell Westbrook.

484
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 2: You gotta say it. He's twenty points and eleven assists.

485
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 2: Let's let's big him up while he's playing well. His

486
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 2: last three games twenty one eight, nine point seven assists

487
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 2: per game, fifty three percent from the floor and fifty

488
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 2: percent from three point land and only.

489
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,360
Speaker 5: One turnover last night. Yeah, him and Lebron four combined.

490
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 4: That's big.

491
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 2: It is big, so yeah, and two of those three

492
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 2: games are wins reps and this one against Cleveland, plus

493
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 2: they were up in the fourth quarter against the Wizards,

494
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 2: so they could have been three.

495
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 6: No.

496
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, the fun here was Lebron and his dunk

497
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: on his old teammate Kevin Love because his head was

498
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 2: at the freaking right. Yeah, it legitimately was at the rim.

499
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 2: And yeah, again you can really enjoy it unless your

500
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: name is Kevin Love because, as you said, he did

501
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: the headlock, and we've got the video here JD's headlock. Yeah,

502
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: gets you don't see this on a Yeah, he looks

503
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 2: like he's in the locker room, like you know, we're

504
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 2: wrestling here. But after getting dunked on, I mean he

505
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 2: really pulled the shoot. He didn't want to take a charge,

506
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 2: so he got the heck out of there. But he

507
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: got him back with that nine second headlock right there.

508
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: But Lebron and Westbrook playing better at this team cutting again.

509
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,719
Speaker 2: Their starters look like they want to pass and they

510
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 2: want to cut. They do give up a lot of points,

511
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 2: there's no doubt. But I think those two guys, plus

512
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: a healthy Anthony Davis, is the reason I want this

513
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 2: thirty one and forty one team in the play tournament.

514
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: They're not great, but they can definitely beat people.

515
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 3: What do you think, Lee, Yeah, Lebron just has a

516
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 3: different energy. I think back in Cleveland, you know, and

517
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 3: in other games this season, you've seen fourth quarter he's

518
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 3: looked kind of old and slow. This time they have

519
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 3: a win, he's in front of his home fans, he's

520
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: had the big Donks having a great game. He was like, yeah,

521
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 3: I've got the energy again. And they have been playing

522
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 3: a little bit better, I guess, but it's almost like,

523
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: you know what, we're not going to do anything this season,

524
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 3: and now there's pressure is off and they playing a

525
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 3: bit of Westbrook looks to me actually like a little

526
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: bit more like he's broken the shackles. So whether or

527
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 3: not they can keep it up, who knows. But still

528
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be overly frightened of this team. You shouldn't be,

529
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 3: because you can score against them. It's just the Cavs

530
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: had a bit of trouble last night. In the end,

531
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 3: they were playing good enough but then it was that,

532
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: you know, Lebron takeover that we don't see as many

533
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: of these days, and the Caves didn't really have an answer.

534
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 3: That to them is not a bad sort of idea

535
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 3: of what it's going to be like in the playoffs.

536
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 3: So like things get a little bit tighter, you've been

537
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 3: playing really well this season, you have to figure out

538
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 3: a way to just keep the scoreboard ticking over and

539
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 3: I didn't think they were able to do a good

540
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 3: enough job of that.

541
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 4: Any notes on this one, I don't have many notes

542
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 4: to add. I just love Kevin Love doing bets, like

543
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 4: if you're going to get dunked on, Like as soon

544
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 4: as he got dunk on, you're like just laid on

545
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 4: the floor like he was actually deceased. And then obviously

546
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 4: he came back out after the second half through him

547
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 4: in I had, like Lebron said, don't on my career

548
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 4: highlight reel.

549
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

550
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 4: I know him and Kevin Love were such a close buddies.

551
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 4: At this point, I guess he's fitting in instead of

552
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 4: fitting out these days. But uh, great stuff from Lebron.

553
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 4: You could tell it was going to be a special

554
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 4: night when he got that baseline dunk early in the

555
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 4: second quarter and his head was at the ron again.

556
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 4: He basically did a chin up. You're like, okay, forties

557
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 4: in the cards here he ended up with thirty eight

558
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 4: because he was passing the ball a little bit too much.

559
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 4: I had to get the triple double as well.

560
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 5: Thirty eight didn't hit a three, and it only hit

561
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 5: four free throws, so I think it was something like that.

562
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 5: It wasn't a ton of trips to the free throw line. Yeah,

563
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 5: I mean the jumper was falling a little fade away

564
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 5: and then obviously attacking and dunking on. It felt like

565
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 5: half the roster though.

566
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 3: It's the old locomotive as well. At times hyeah, just

567
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: like get out of his way here.

568
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 5: But crazy, Yeah, I mean, you do forget how old

569
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 5: he is. It's it's wild what he's still doing here

570
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 5: and taking the lead in the scoring race.

571
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: Why isn't that guy? So there was that the viral

572
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 2: video of the guy's you know, shooting and not getting help.

573
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: He was pretending he was Lebron and said, I'm thirty six,

574
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: you know, the guy in the corner. What's there's a

575
00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: viral video going on?

576
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 4: It's old video.

577
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: I've seen it, says I'm thirty six in the corner.

578
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: He's pretending to be Lebron not getting help with the Lakers.

579
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 2: This last year when he was thirty six. I'm surprised

580
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: he didn't make another viral video where he's thirty seven.

581
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 5: Don't remember.

582
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys have seen it. I just didn't do

583
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 2: a good job. I told you. I told you. It's

584
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: very difficult relaying viral videos in real life or or memes,

585
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: especially from last season.

586
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 5: Last Yeah, it's like if it didn't happen this last week,

587
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 5: I've long forgotten about it. But yeah, yeah, anyways, Okay,

588
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,239
Speaker 5: what about this game? Reggie Bullock and the MAVs. They

589
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 5: hold on after a delay, some crazy storms down there

590
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 5: in Dallas, and they beat the Timberwolves one ten to

591
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 5: one oh eight. There's a lot to unpack from this game.

592
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 5: So I don't know where you want to start.

593
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: Well, let's start with the roof leaking there. Sure it

594
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: was a strange site. Everybody looking up and including owner

595
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: Mark Cuban, what is going on with my roof? I

596
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: thought he was going to go up there and Patrick himself,

597
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: But yeah, very strange. And then I was just looking

598
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 2: forward to the Patrick Beverly. Luka don it's one on

599
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: one matchup in that came through it, Ye, Luca hate

600
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 2: it's playing against Patrick Beverley. That's that's clear. Yeah. But

601
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: he had he's he's had games in the past, playoff

602
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: games in the past, matv's facing the Clippers, but he

603
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: still hasn't found a way to just shed Patrick Beverley,

604
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: not be pissed in the moment, not be not not

605
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: let it get to him. It's still getting to him,

606
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: and he tried. There's lots of close ups of Patrick Beverly,

607
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 2: you know, getting away with a lot of hacks on Luca,

608
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: which I don't think that happens in the playoffs. I

609
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: don't think you can get away with all those hacks.

610
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 2: I mean, Patrick Beverley is just flying under the radar

611
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: for some reason. I mean, he's a Draymond Green like

612
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: he's pushing the boundaries, getting away with hacks, and Luca

613
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 2: wanting to turn around and smack him in the face,

614
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: but holding back and and he listened. Beverly in the

615
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 2: end doing incredible job on Luca. Luca had an off

616
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: night at five, seventeen and fifteen points, but his men

617
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: beside him, they came through.

618
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they were all wide open in the corner.

619
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's great to see Reggie Bullock come through

620
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: six of eleven from the floor, six of eleven from three,

621
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: didn't step into two point territory banging home those series.

622
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: I will say the Spencer Dinwiddie line, he only hit

623
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 2: one three. That is important. He can drive, yeah, and

624
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: he's he's comfortable doing that, even though you don't think

625
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: of him really as a guy who finishes at the room.

626
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: He's doing a good job of that. Twenty points off

627
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: the bench.

628
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

629
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: Performance for the MAVs where they got six guys in

630
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: double figures. Not only that, six guys with fifteen plus.

631
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: So that's why they win this game. They get to

632
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: the end with that. That weird thing that happened. The

633
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: walls were down three. Patrick Beverley at the line and

634
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: it was cool how he pulled it off. He got

635
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: the ball from the referee and he had it over

636
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: his head like a soccer pass, like an inbound soccer pass,

637
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: hit the rim, came off and he went into the

638
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: lane and got it. But then the MAVs challenged that

639
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: he just they challenged that he crossed the line too early,

640
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: am I right? What did they challenge the foul?

641
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 5: Foul and they're like, let's go replay this at the

642
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 5: ending of this game was got awful?

643
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, and the challenge the foul because he grabbed

644
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: the ball got foul. They whistled, but they challenged that foul.

645
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: And so there was a jump ball which overturned. Yeah,

646
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: it was overturned, which was an argument because they were

647
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 2: up three, wouldn't you rather just have Patrick Beverley go

648
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: to the line for two more rather than well, like

649
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: you could lose the ball and shoot a three anyways,

650
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: But then they just ended.

651
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 5: Up fouling again. I mean, this is the thing, Like

652
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 5: there's a great article on CBS Sports today about what

653
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 5: is the NBA doing here with these intentional fouls and

654
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 5: like even the intentionally misfree throws and the long reviews

655
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 5: like how is this entertaining? No, it's not, especially the

656
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 5: intentional fouls.

657
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: Like yeah, that which wasn't a part of.

658
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: Well it was.

659
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 5: I mean, like do you think Look, it's a rule,

660
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 5: and the MAVs played it perfectly, so I'm not like

661
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 5: knocking kid and their staff are doing it, but I

662
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 5: think it should be changed all that part of fouling

663
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 5: when you're up three. We are just removing like some

664
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 5: of the most exciting things from the game because the

665
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 5: strategy says, foul up three and put them in the

666
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 5: line and then let's go from there. But like you

667
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 5: could argue, like, why don't we just make that an

668
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 5: intentional foul and shots in the ball?

669
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: I don't think you can remove that. That's so hard

670
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: to do because you could just pretend, hey, I'm going

671
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: to defend this player with the ball and hack him

672
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: and he goes to the line.

673
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 5: It's go one step further than if you foul a

674
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 5: guy outside of the three point line when there's like

675
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 5: less than twenty four seconds to go With something like that,

676
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: it's just like this idea, like we're just making the

677
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 5: game worse. It's boring. I mean, I get it, you

678
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 5: get the misfree throws. The internally, it's like all that,

679
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 5: but no one wants that. We want to see a

680
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 5: guy try and take a shot and you want to

681
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 5: see it defended.

682
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how you take that strategy, the

683
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: strategy of the game.

684
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 5: You just that's all you do. You just penalize them.

685
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 5: But the opposite is happening, you're incentivized to foul.

686
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: But if you guys dribbling around the three point line,

687
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: how can you judge whether or not he hacks them? Like,

688
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: you know, like anybody is hacked when they're dribbling a basketball.

689
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's deliberate versus I get it.

690
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 5: You're right, the defenders will get creative in the sense

691
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 5: of like, was that intentional? Okay, but last night this

692
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 5: one where.

693
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 4: Who was it? Was it Beverly that came around a screen?

694
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was shooting the ball.

695
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 4: He was right, that should have been a three point foal.

696
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 5: Sure, Sure, But these other ones where obviously it's just

697
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 5: an intentional foul and we're going to play that game

698
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 5: because that's what the numbers say and put on line.

699
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 5: I get all that. Again, this is like the right strategy,

700
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 5: but I think it should be changed. I just don't

701
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 5: think it's good for an entertainment product.

702
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is what this is supposed to be. I

703
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: think it's a little tough to change that rule to

704
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: sort of eradicate it completely.

705
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 5: But on the dungeich one, So, why why do you

706
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 5: guys keep saying that, well, what do you mean penalize

707
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 5: the people fouling, so freeze rows and they keep the ball.

708
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but on that one, it's like you're just basically

709
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: stopping them from shooting a threat. You can do that,

710
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: You should be able to do that.

711
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 5: Okay, well I'm arguing you shouldn't.

712
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: Well I don't think you can take that out of

713
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: the game yet. I don't think unless you've got.

714
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, you love free throws, so you're the

715
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: last I like.

716
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: Pressure free throws, not free throws in general. But look,

717
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: the thing is afterwards Beverly he got the ball again

718
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: and Doncic fouled him and like sort of slapped that

719
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: in him. That's the one that I think they should

720
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: look at and say, like, that's not really a foul there.

721
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: You're just like you're just hitting him. Unless you're impeding

722
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: him in some way, then it's play on. Because I

723
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: think Beverly turned around hit the three. Now he may

724
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: have actually I don't know if his foot was on

725
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: the line, but he took the shot there.

726
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, this thing that I'm saying get rid of happened

727
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 5: twice in the final.

728
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: I just saying, I mean, the last thing we want

729
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: is reviews, reviews, reviews like that and the game dragging out,

730
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: but you should still be able to defend the guy

731
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: and foul him without it then being saying, well that

732
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: now is a possession.

733
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 5: But the problem is this happens almost every second game

734
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 5: where the guy like Beverly saying I'm shooting the three,

735
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 5: and they're like, no, we fouled on the floor.

736
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: Then we go into that's different, different because Beverly was shooting.

737
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: I know, I will say that that that's a difference,

738
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: say like, if the guy hasn't gotten into a shooting motion,

739
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: then that that shouldn't be an extra.

740
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 5: My point is that the team will stop even trying

741
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 5: to do the intentional foul to get them to the

742
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 5: line and stuff, because then you're going to be penalized

743
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 5: for it.

744
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: But sometimes something sometimes don't do the fail They like,

745
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: we'll live with the miss.

746
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: Threat, Jason get used to not.

747
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 5: Again this is I don't want mass fans coming at me.

748
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 4: This was what you should do.

749
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,239
Speaker 5: I'm just saying overall, I think it's something the lead

750
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 5: should look at because it's just not It's not as

751
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 5: there's a great game, Wolves are back in it. You know,

752
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 5: we get these like back and forth shots being made

753
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 5: the enter the buzzes building, and then a lot of

754
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 5: times what happens is this crap happens, and it's like

755
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 5: you're there or you're watching on TV. We're sickos. We're

756
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 5: gonna watch regardless, and we're gonna talk about it. But

757
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 5: casual fans are like another review or what the heck?

758
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 5: I mean, I can't even see a potential game tying

759
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 5: shot or something like that. It's just it's not fun.

760
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 5: It's the honest truth.

761
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 4: I think.

762
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: I think the bigger picture is the classic casual fan issue,

763
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: which is an issue for us. The end of games

764
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: take too long. It was happening in the David Stern era.

765
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: If they tried to try to address it with Adam Silver,

766
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: Adam silver Is definitely has it high up on the whiteboard.

767
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure the end of games just take way too

768
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: long and we're all exasperated by that. I don't think

769
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: this intentional foul really changes all that much. The video

770
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: reviews in general are the biggest issue of everything, and

771
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: I think the intentional fouls for the first forty seven

772
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: minutes of the game, in terms of a guy just

773
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: you know, having a break, it's a two on one,

774
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: they just grab him for no reason, they grab the

775
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: ball handler for no reason. That I mean, that's to

776
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: me a bigger issue. And then this you know three

777
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: point situation, which is, you know, a very unique situation

778
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: where it's three points and you just follow the guy

779
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: because you want him shooting too. It doesn't happen a lot,

780
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: and I think that's part of the strategy. Happens. It happened, Okay,

781
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: I mean, let's say.

782
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 5: That it happened probably another five ten times as we

783
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 5: get in the home stretch here and into the playoffs,

784
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 5: like this happens all the time. You're up three, and

785
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 5: then what do we do? Are we intentionally fouling and

786
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 5: the guy's putting his hand up. The second one is like,

787
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 5: while he's fouling, he's putting his hand up, I'm taking

788
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 5: the take foul here, the intentional foul.

789
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't mind that as a strategy of

790
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: the game. If we had some quicker endings to the game.

791
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: I mean, if we weren't watching stripes look at video review.

792
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 5: Okay, but hold on, I'm saying you want it to

793
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 5: be quicker. And then I'm saying, if you penalize that,

794
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 5: if you took if you called it an intentional foul,

795
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 5: they would then get shot and the ball teams will

796
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 5: stop doing it, so then the game's going to be faster.

797
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 2: I don't know how you determine if a thing is intentional,

798
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: then you're gonna have a referee going to the video

799
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: monitor board saying maybe he was just playing defense. I mean,

800
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: you could just stick.

801
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 5: That's gonna be well, then maybe you do need to

802
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, go extreme with it. If you're outside

803
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 5: the three point line or something like that and there's

804
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 5: twenty four seconds or less or something and it's a

805
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 5: foul occurs, then it's the same idea or something something

806
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 5: to stop teams from wanting to do it because it's

807
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 5: in their best interest to do it, which is so funny.

808
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 5: For a majority of the game, it's like fowls are bad,

809
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 5: you're hurt that way, and then in a way they

810
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 5: become a positive for you. It's just a weird switch,

811
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 5: that's all. Yeah, And it's not fun to watch. It's

812
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 5: the other thing.

813
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 4: Any take on this, I personally like seeing an intentionally

814
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 4: missed free throw. I hate seeing a review. And Lee

815
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 4: is right that teams kind of just did start fouling

816
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 4: in this situation like ten years ago. Just rewind ten

817
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 4: years ago. You're taking the three, You're probably not getting

818
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 4: a foul there, you know, to send the guy to

819
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 4: the line. But I don't know, it feels a little

820
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 4: bit like an overthing to get rid of files in

821
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 4: the last ten seconds just because you want to see

822
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 4: some game winning threes. So I'm more with Lee and

823
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 4: Tass on this one, but also shout out to Beverly.

824
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 4: He did the intentional miss and get the rebound thing twice. Yeah,

825
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 4: and he did it two different ways because he did

826
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 4: the fast one, which was cool, and then they got

827
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 4: the DNCIC play where this was just one percent Beverly

828
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 4: catching everybody off guard, like nobody knew that he was

829
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 4: going to do it right away. That was cool. Yeah,

830
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 4: and then he did a higher toss one on the

831
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 4: second one, it just bounced around a little to Towns,

832
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 4: who kind of had to throw up that little prayer

833
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 4: over the backboard.

834
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 5: But you know, pretty well done.

835
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 4: I thought that Beverly to actually get somewhat of a

836
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: possession for the timber Walls ball time.

837
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: That's why he won the skills challenge at the game

838
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: years ago.

839
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 3: He gave Luca one hell of a butt slat too last.

840
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we got right now agregious butt slash

841
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 4: fouling him.

842
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

843
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 5: And then you saw that Luca iroll is like there's

844
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 5: a meme right there.

845
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that should be. And then after the game, Luca

846
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 3: had the ball and Patrick Beverly steals it. The game's over,

847
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 3: but he steals it just to keep on going. It's

848
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: crazy stuff. But if you are the Wolves, you look

849
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 3: at that and you look you did a really good job.

850
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 3: I thought on Luca with the eight turnover, as you mentioned,

851
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 3: the shooting five for seventeen in total. But Reggie Bullock

852
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: and other guy stepped up. So this was a big gamer.

853
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: Was a fun game overall, and the Wolves it.

854
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 5: Wasn't until the ending me it was too with the

855
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 5: intentionally miss Yeah.

856
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 3: But the Wolves, you know this is again they have

857
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 3: to answer these questions against top teams. I got the

858
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: Mavericks one more time, and I thought, I've rolled, I

859
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 3: were pretty good.

860
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 5: I thought they were gonna pull it off. I mean,

861
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 5: Towns had that massive, massive donk lay and they had

862
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 5: that little bit of a lead. But yeah, it was

863
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 5: the strategy was sound obviously like anybody but Luca, But

864
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 5: I almost wonder if they went too far to the

865
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 5: extreme because it was a lot of like he's going

866
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 5: to make the pass and those guys were just hitting

867
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 5: open corner three after over the corner three, and it

868
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 5: was you know, Phinney Smith included with Reggie Bullock there, Jady,

869
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 5: throw up the playoff picture if you if you have

870
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 5: it available, because there's a big win for Dallas here

871
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 5: obviously in terms of of where they're trying to land

872
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 5: in the in the seating race. And we'll get to

873
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 5: the nets Jazz a little bit later in the show,

874
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 5: but the Utah losing right now though it's still four

875
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 5: to five, Utah would have home court advantage against Dallas.

876
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 5: As we show this to everybody in the stream team

877
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 5: you know, I've been sharing this every morning on Twitter,

878
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 5: changing every day. That's the exciting part. It's like every

879
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 5: day there's like two or three teams like flipping each other.

880
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 5: You know, Philly back to two if you look over

881
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 5: in the East and in Milwaukee down to three. So exciting.

882
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: That's what we want, isn't it?

883
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 5: That's what we want? But will we got it? Just

884
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 5: some other games here, just to throw in. We had

885
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 5: the Hornets defeating the Pelicans one O six, one O

886
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 5: three for their fifth straight victory. Miles Bridges after the

887
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 5: games had quote, we had a bad February and we

888
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 5: were dropping out of the playoffs, so we just wanted

889
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 5: to show the NBA that we're here. We are going

890
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 5: to continue to play like this and put the NBA

891
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 5: on notice. Oh hello, but nice ending here. LaMelo had

892
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 5: a very tough floater in the lane with about about

893
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 5: ten seconds to go, and then the Pelicans went to McCullum,

894
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 5: which makes sense. But the Hornets they swarmed him. Yeah,

895
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 5: and they just had ran a couple guys at him

896
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 5: and he was never even to get able to get

897
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 5: up a shot. So Hornets outscored the Pelicans twenty one

898
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 5: to ten in the final nine minutes of that game.

899
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 5: And a quick Mason plum Dog update, we go three

900
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 5: for four at the line. Yeah, switching hands. As we've

901
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 5: talked about, he's left you're shooting a left handed now

902
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 5: after he injured his right finger.

903
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: There and a couple of wide i've been dunks as well.

904
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: They Yeah, I mean, look, he's a big guy as

905
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 3: an athlete like that, but you can't give up so

906
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: many easy baskets in such a top game. He I

907
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 3: feel the Pels, but yeah, Cape shooting lefties, man, they great?

908
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, three or four, I mean you're laughing. He's like

909
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 5: thirty five percent presearching this season. And then just one

910
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 5: more here. We won't get to all of them because

911
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 5: we're running a little long. Tatum scored thirty six as

912
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 5: the Celtics rolled past okay See one thirty two to

913
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 5: one twenty three. The good times continue to roll for

914
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 5: the Beantown boys here. I know they're playing okay See,

915
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 5: but Tatum another thirty plus points. That's three straight games.

916
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 5: Jalen Brown twenty five. Batman, it's sticking. Batman.

917
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 4: Is hereatman now?

918
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 5: He literally was like in his press conference last night

919
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 5: as signing roles. Uh, you know Marvel characters took all

920
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 5: the players on his team now, so yeah, he's all

921
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 5: in on this Grant Batman well, and he scored twenty

922
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 5: Creighton Pritchard five to eleven from deep there he finished

923
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 5: their eighteen and they just they started this game on

924
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 5: a run. They maintain the lead. Trey Man awesome for

925
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 5: Okac set a franchise working scoring record with thirty five points.

926
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 5: He had seven threes.

927
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: But you want to go. You want to go through

928
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: the Marvel characters that he assigned to his teammates in

929
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: front of Yeah, we can go through it quick characters.

930
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 2: Huh Marvel characters yeah, Celtics, Marvel Comps. Grant Williams list.

931
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: Who is Marcus smart.

932
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 5: Penguin?

933
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 2: I don't even know if the hul holds the Hulk? Okay,

934
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: Jaylen Brown, iron Man, black Panther, Okay, good one, Al Horford,

935
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: this is an interesting one.

936
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 4: Doctor Stephen Strange as Captain America. Okay, he's old, just

937
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 4: like Captain America unfrozen aaron Ne Smith coming off the bench,

938
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 4: Hawkeye tracks what.

939
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: My brain's not to hot here? Who's Luke.

940
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 4: Cornette?

941
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 6: Cornette Conett? This course is gettible, Hawkeye. It's gettable, so

942
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 6: it doesn't say a lot.

943
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 4: Wow, Rob Williams, Doctor Stephen Strange, hold on?

944
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: Uh?

945
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: Good guess can you give us a hint?

946
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 5: Like, can we get it at all?

947
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 2: The ancient because he's a big he's a big name.

948
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 2: Four yes, yeah, uh. Daniel Tice's Captain Marvel, Jason.

949
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 4: Tatum, iron Man.

950
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: I don't even know who this is.

951
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 5: You don't know who it is?

952
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 2: I guess you should. I guess I should. It starts

953
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: with a V venom no.

954
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 4: Vision, Wanda vision. That's a good one, that's fair.

955
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he went through the entire t. Peyton Pritchard his

956
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: quick silver. Derek White is iron Man, I guess, and

957
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: uh Grant he didn't sign himself spider Man. Who's there's

958
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: another grant? I don't know.

959
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 5: Well, this is the Batman is d Yeah, right, that's right.

960
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: And he had to give himself a Marvel one A

961
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 2: coach a udoka for the last one here to take

962
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: it home.

963
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 5: Uh, Professor x no who is the.

964
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 4: Coach of the Marvel Superheroes.

965
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 5: League the Timestone.

966
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 2: It's a very common first name with the last name.

967
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: That is, there's no fanos on here. Bruce Banner, Nick Fury.

968
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 5: Oh, he's the coach of the Avengers. Kind of all

969
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 5: right there, I go wow, Okay. On that note, we're

970
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 5: gonna take our first break. When we come back, we'll

971
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 5: get into a little is this news? All right, back

972
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 5: with the boys here in the Classic Factory, let's do

973
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 5: a little is this news? Yeah, headsne got some headlines

974
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 5: here for you. You guys can debate whether or not

975
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 5: they're really newsworthy. First one, we'll give credit to ESPN

976
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 5: on this one. Ben Simmons has a herniated disc in

977
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 5: his back. Timeline for return still unclear. Trey, is this news?

978
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 4: It isn't news because nothing has changed. Ben Simmons is

979
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 4: still not playing, But it is news because to me

980
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 4: it kind of shows the Nets aren't going to be

981
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 4: counting on Ben Simmons this year. They still want him back.

982
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 4: They say he still could come back, but the guy

983
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 4: just had an epidural. There's ten games left in the season.

984
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 4: He hasn't played in two hundred and seventy five days.

985
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: That's like a huge task to ask for somebody who

986
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 4: isn't Ben Simmons. Not to mention, we saw the way

987
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: things ended in Philadelphia for Ben Simmons, so it's weird stuff.

988
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 4: The best version of the Nets, at their full strength,

989
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 4: will have a healthy Ben Simmons. Also, a healthy Joe

990
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 4: Harris would help. But anything they get, I think from

991
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 4: Ben Simmons this year is going to be gravy. But

992
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 4: that's fine because they got the potatoes. Kevin Durant is

993
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 4: straight up the potatoes. He's good enough to win any

994
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 4: series himself. As we saw last night thirty seven, nine

995
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 4: and eight against the Jazz clinical precision from KD. I

996
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 4: would say even brought back the teeny peenie on royce Odia.

997
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 4: Too small is on another level right now you've got

998
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 4: the standard one hand KD has pinched to grow an inch.

999
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 4: I was watching the NCAA tournament over the weekend. There

1000
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 4: was a guy named Eddie Lampkin Junior. He had like

1001
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 4: an awesome put back and he went with two hands

1002
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 4: for the too small to the ground. So I don't

1003
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 4: know what to mat to that. I guess we have

1004
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 4: seen before, uh, rocking the Baby Baby, Yeah, that's gone though, Yeah,

1005
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: I think I think that's gone. I think we had

1006
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 4: Draymond's flex, you know where he would just put his

1007
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 4: arms up, not actually flex his muscles, and then we

1008
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 4: had Rocking the Baby. It's all about too small right now.

1009
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 4: So I'm excited to see what the next innovation is.

1010
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 4: But it doesn't seem like it's coming from Ben Simmons.

1011
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: No.

1012
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin Durant is he's lethal with that too small?

1013
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 4: Oh it's so mean.

1014
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that's the meanest one. The hand

1015
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: to the floor. I get it, you're you're small, but

1016
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 2: this is just this is real brutal.

1017
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 5: I think it's it's like there's an extra layer to

1018
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 5: its brutality too, because like it's one thing when a guy,

1019
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 5: a big guy, is in the post, you know, a

1020
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 5: mouse in the house, you know a barbecue chicken. Put

1021
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 5: you in the rim. Okay, yeah, you're too small. You

1022
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 5: can't go because I'm a giant. But Durant is a

1023
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 5: perimeter player, though he is a giant at something tall,

1024
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 5: so he can do it to basically everybody. Nobody is

1025
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 5: big enough to defend him on the perimeter, so he's

1026
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 5: going to shoot over everybody. So in theory, he could

1027
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 5: always drop this the teeny weenie Yeah.

1028
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think he's going to do more of

1029
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: it because he's the sort of guy likes the show

1030
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: you no one can get close to me. We saw

1031
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 3: last night DeRozan actually after he hit one on Fred

1032
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: van Vliet.

1033
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: Sort of I don't want to do this.

1034
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not really going to because they're buds.

1035
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, but Kevin Durant, he's a vicious man out there.

1036
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: And this was great because the Jets came back in

1037
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: this game and then it was Kevin Durant's like get

1038
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 3: out of here.

1039
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1040
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 3: Fifteen for twenty three last night. Man, he's just and

1041
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: he's cooking like this. It's beautiful to watch.

1042
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 5: Do you think Trey's maybe right here though? That like

1043
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 5: to see Ben Simmons at all, you don't know.

1044
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: I don't see how he could get himself physically. He

1045
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: wasn't even doing five on five stuff sort of before

1046
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 3: this back injury, by the way, has been you know,

1047
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: around from now at least two or three weeks, so

1048
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: for him to get back into condition to get into

1049
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: five on five stuff, and then that's basically playoffs. I

1050
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: just don't think, considering how the playoffs ended for him

1051
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: last season, your first time you want to see him

1052
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: is out there in the court in the playoffs, because

1053
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 3: that's probably not the best situation for him.

1054
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think they bring him back in any capacity,

1055
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: like if he can come off the bench and play

1056
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: ten minutes, you know, like a guy who's been injured.

1057
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: Can He was, you know, in Steve Nash's words, working

1058
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: out hard for several months, and I think they know

1059
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: that The best version Astre said of this team is

1060
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons helping out defensively. And the good thing is

1061
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 2: he doesn't have much of a responsibility really because Kevin

1062
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 2: Durant and Kyrie Irving and even Goran Dragis can handle

1063
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: the ball a time, and they did really well to

1064
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: get Goran Dragic off the scrap heat because you know,

1065
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: he's another creator that can really help. You can see

1066
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: how small Gordon Dragach is at times on the defensive end,

1067
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: which would be gone with Ben Simmons helping out. But

1068
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: Dragitch is a great find to play point guard minutes,

1069
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: but he's always sort of a low man helping out defensively.

1070
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 2: You know, it's coming over and helping out Simmons would

1071
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 2: just be so perfect for this team. And I think

1072
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: because it's not a huge responsibility, they would They're gonna

1073
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 2: throw him out there, I think, no matter what. And

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00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: Steve Nash keeps saying, you know, Steve Nash lied to

1075
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 2: us when he said that James Harden isn't being dealt

1076
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: at the headline.

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00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 5: But Stevens has had back issues.

1078
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he said, my hurting any of this or

1079
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: you know, everybody's unique, so I'm not going to really

1080
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: comment on it. But he does say he expects to

1081
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: see Ben Simmons back. What is that just companies speaking maybe,

1082
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: but yes, it's getting too close to really say he's

1083
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: going to be a starter in thirty minutes per game.

1084
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: Definitely that.

1085
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 5: I mean, it's also like it's not like the Nets

1086
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 5: window is like in Kevin Durant terms, it's like this small.

1087
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 5: You know, it's like Ben Simmons is under contract for

1088
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 5: what another.

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00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 3: Free more three years? Yeah, yeah, it is that right,

1090
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 3: So you know.

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00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 5: I guess they like they don't want to aggravate something

1092
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 5: even more extremely it is a back injury, a herniated

1093
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 5: disc at that. I mean, for a guy that's what

1094
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 5: twenty five, twenty six years old, you're going to be

1095
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 5: pretty cautious with that. And yeah, you can still beat

1096
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 5: anybody when you have Durant. And then if Kyrie is

1097
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 5: playing in some of these games too, like the Nets

1098
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 5: are going to basically just piss in the eye of

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00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 5: the regular season. They're gonna They're going to obviously be

1100
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 5: in the plan. They're going to get in you know,

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00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 5: you know, unless Durank somehow got injured like they're going.

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00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: To and that an that's got to be somewhat of

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00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 3: a concern for the minutes that he's playing because he's

1104
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 3: been injured in the past and again without Kyrie, there

1105
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 3: in these home games, especially to close out the season,

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00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant is going to have to play heavy minutes.

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00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 3: So you know that that is one concern here that

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00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: that Durant, a guy whos has a lot of injuries

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00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 3: even this season. You want him to be obviously one

1110
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 3: hundred percent in the playoffs.

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00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 5: All right, Our next headline didn't really have time yesterday

1112
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 5: to get to this. I guess it's when the news

1113
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 5: but from the athletic NBA veteran guard Jamal Crawford retires

1114
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 5: after twenty seasons. It took to Twitter to let us know,

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00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 5: task is this news?

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00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: Sure? I think he's retiring here towards the end of

1117
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 2: March because he was waiting for a ten day I'm

1118
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: sure it felt like you got a guy like Isaiah

1119
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 2: Thomas and Charlotte just signed to the rest of the

1120
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: season with the Hornets after two ten day contracts where

1121
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: he is on a heater ten points per game, only

1122
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: thirteen minutes in each game and forty eight percent from three.

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Speaker 2: Jamal Crawford could put up numbers like that, I would say,

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00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: and especially on team that might need offense. But it's understandable.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen Jamal Craff hasn't been playing the

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00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: last couple of years since he was a Brooklyn Net

1127
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: bubble man. If I am correct, so that was twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: He's forty two years.

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00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: He is forty two. He just turned turn Yeah, so

1130
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 2: I guess it's I guess it's time. Although you know,

1131
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 2: he could have put up points for a team desperate

1132
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 2: for points off the bench, just like it does.

1133
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, some team should have signed Jamal Crawford just for

1134
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 4: like this last month of the season to see if

1135
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 4: he could get fifty for another team. Fifty point games

1136
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 4: are going around like huckcakes right now. He's got him

1137
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 4: for four different franchises, the Knicks, the Bulls, the Warriors,

1138
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 4: and the Sons. Jamal Crawford is going to be one

1139
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 4: of those great you had to be there players. Yeah,

1140
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 4: kind of along the lines of Nick Van Exell. I

1141
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 4: think like everybody who watches basketball from one to twenty

1142
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 4: twenty is going to have some favorite Jamal Crawford moments,

1143
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 4: like his crossovers. There was the story that he never practices,

1144
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 4: like he had never practiced ball handling in his life,

1145
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,479
Speaker 4: and he's got the sickest handles in like the past

1146
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 4: two decades until Kyrie Irving came along. Three six Man

1147
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 4: of the Years has that crazy record for the four

1148
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 4: point plays as well. So he's just got a couple,

1149
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 4: like a few things that we'll always remember about Jamal Crawford,

1150
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 4: even if he wasn't the biggest start in the league.

1151
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, a unique legacy. I guess people are saying you

1152
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 5: would agree with that.

1153
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, some of those moves in on the fast breaker.

1154
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: I remember the one against the Nicks, especially where he

1155
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: sort of you know, went to the left, put behind

1156
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 3: him and laid it up that became you know, he

1157
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 3: did that a few times throughout his career. So but

1158
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 3: this season as well, Remember Joe Johnson was back in

1159
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 3: the league this year, and Jamal Crawford kept himself ready

1160
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 3: and in shape. So I am surprised this season he

1161
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 3: didn't get at least someone calling him up and say,

1162
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 3: all right, we're desperate right now, when when everyone was

1163
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 3: missing players due to coronavirus and stuff, that he didn't

1164
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 3: get a gig then. But anyway, I'm sure we'll still

1165
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 3: see Hm around. He's been doing some stuff for the NBA,

1166
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 3: and he's actually really comfortable on camera. So I think

1167
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 3: we're going to still see plenty of Jamal Crawford.

1168
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 5: Nineteen four hundred and nineteen points in his career, so

1169
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 5: just short of that twenty thousand point mark.

1170
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 3: That we've had no All Star appearances at all. So no,

1171
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: he I mean that might be the leading scorer for

1172
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 3: no All Star appearances.

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00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: No, somebody screwed twenty.

1174
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 5: Where's really at?

1175
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: No, Realdy hasn't got to twenty?

1176
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 5: Question, he hasn't there. Yeah, I think they're because we

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00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 5: talked about it.

1178
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: Not too long, maybe not. Maybe there isn't one. That's

1179
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: a lot of pointy.

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00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 5: No all Star appearances, nine teams, Yeah, twenty years as

1181
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 5: he played, I just loved to hoop. Yeah, I think

1182
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 5: that's and you're right. I tweeted it my favorite sad

1183
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 5: about him, and I just hope he has it forever,

1184
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 5: though I'm sure at some point somebody will pass him.

1185
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 5: I think it's fifty five four point plays if you

1186
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 5: just count the regular season, and he had another five

1187
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 5: more if you count the postseason, So sixty total four

1188
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 5: point plays where he hit the three gout fount and

1189
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 5: hit the free throw.

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00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 3: And it's not close. Who's second, I don't thinking. Yeah,

1191
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 3: I think it was like daylight between him and whoever

1192
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 3: was That's a lot.

1193
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 5: It's a lot. I know, the game like changing is

1194
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 5: obviously more three point attempts and stuff like that. So

1195
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 5: maybe somebody eventually breaks it, but I hope he holds

1196
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 5: onto that one forever. Okay, final headline from Real GM

1197
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 5: the headline, but really by way of Mark Stein, Quinn

1198
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 5: Snyder mentioned as possible candidate to coach the Lakers or

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Speaker 5: the Spurs.

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00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 3: Is this news?

1201
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: Leally, Yes, it is news.

1202
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 3: I would say Mark Stein is very plugged in, and

1203
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: so if he reports something, it's not usually just something

1204
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 3: that's he's just pulled out of thin air. There's probably

1205
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: talk out there, and there are some vacancy's going to

1206
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 3: be around next season, maybe san Antonio. I'm not sure

1207
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 3: Greg Popvich. Stein believes that Popovich probably coaches one more season,

1208
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: and the Lakers. I don't think Vogel returns short of

1209
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: them somehow pulling off a miraculous playoff run or winning

1210
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 3: the championship. And I think in Utah it probably is

1211
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 3: time for it to change too. This will be his

1212
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 3: eighth season. They've never gotten past the second round, and

1213
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 3: I think if you're the Jazz i don't think they

1214
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 3: get past the second round this season either. I think

1215
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 3: either him or Rudy or Donovan is not going to

1216
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 3: be their next season, and I think Snyder is probably

1217
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 3: the first Domino to four. I think he's done a

1218
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 3: good job with this team, but I also sort of

1219
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 3: think you see the same sort of things happening in

1220
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 3: the playoffs. They can't get past that second round. They've led,

1221
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 3: they've been up three to one and haven't been able

1222
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 3: to do it. Against the Clippers last season, you know,

1223
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 3: when Kawhi goes down, they were up two zero in

1224
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: that series and they lose in six. That to me

1225
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 3: was pretty bad, Like Kawhi goes down and you can't

1226
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 3: finish off that team. So I think if you're the Jazz,

1227
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 3: you'd probably go you know what, Night has done a

1228
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: good job. They've always been a consistent defensive team, an

1229
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: offensive team, but playoff Snyder maybe hasn't had the same success,

1230
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 3: So maybe it's time for him to go to a

1231
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 3: different situation and try someone different. I have no question

1232
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 3: he will be a coach in demand. I just feel

1233
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 3: after eight seasons a couple of fifty winners in there, so.

1234
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 5: You don't think if they make the conference finals.

1235
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: I don't think. I think I think there's going to

1236
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 3: be definitely a change. There's this talk that Donovan's not

1237
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 3: happy there as well. They're you know, same with Rudy.

1238
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 3: But again, I think if you're at the franchise, you're like,

1239
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 3: we're not giving up our players.

1240
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: First.

1241
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 3: I think the coach is probably the first first guy

1242
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 3: to go.

1243
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 5: I think like one of the longest tenured coaches in

1244
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 5: the league is probably Pop Sportster, and then probably Snyder.

1245
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 4: I think he's tied with Kurk. They started.

1246
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you think about this rumor here from

1247
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 5: Mark Stein?

1248
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 4: Well, it's definitely interesting and it'll kind of show us

1249
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 4: what the Jazz ownership group is all about these days.

1250
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 4: Because Utah has had three coaches since nineteen eighty nine,

1251
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 4: they don't change coaches. And yeah, the Jazz haven't taken

1252
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 4: the biggest leap, but like they've built a really good program.

1253
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 4: Like the Jazz are one of the best teams in

1254
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 4: the league every single year, and they play a team

1255
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 4: style of basketball that you kind of have to do

1256
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 4: when you're playing in Utah. So San Antonio certainly has

1257
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 4: to be thinking that's pretty greg Popovicy what you're doing

1258
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 4: there in Utah, whereas the Lakers are probably like, you

1259
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 4: built a really good team. Now imagine if you had

1260
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 4: superstar talent. So to me, it would be more along

1261
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 4: the lines of does Quinn Snyder want to do something

1262
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 4: different than be a Utah Jazz coach? Because I don't know.

1263
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 4: I don't know. Would the Jazz fire like fire him,

1264
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 4: would they scape goat him? That's not a very jazzy

1265
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 4: thing to do. But they've also got Dwayne Wade there. Now,

1266
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 4: they've got Danny Ainge there now a lot of new

1267
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 4: voices compared to the past. So it's it's interesting, I

1268
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 4: think Stein.

1269
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 5: Says in his newsletter, it's sort of unclear even what

1270
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 5: Snyder's contract situation is. I know he signed an extension,

1271
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 5: but no one's really sure how many years and like

1272
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 5: when it you know, when it ends. So yeah, trade's right,

1273
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 5: Like would there be like a firing here or would

1274
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 5: it be coming up that he would possibly getting a

1275
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 5: new one.

1276
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1277
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: It feels like, yeah, I agree with me, something's got

1278
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: to change. They're running it back over and over and

1279
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 2: over again. It feels a little raptorsy with Dwayne Casey

1280
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 2: at the helm where they just can't get over the hump.

1281
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: Whether it's a Western Conference Finals appearance, which would be

1282
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 2: an improvement, it's hard to see right now them getting there.

1283
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 2: I would think that they run it back we have

1284
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: with Mitchell and Gobert and a change probably on the

1285
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: bench because you see stuff like what happened last night

1286
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: against the Nets where Rudy Gobert is going up against

1287
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: a young player, Nick Claxon and he only gets five attempts.

1288
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: And I know Rudy Gobert is we call everyone a bucket.

1289
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: He is not a bucket. However, However, he's got to

1290
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 2: be utilized if he's going to be such a high

1291
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 2: paid player, and he does draw people in because he

1292
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: does put pressure on the rim when he gets the ball.

1293
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 2: Am I blaming it on Quinn? I mean I think

1294
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: when you're looking at the hierarchy of this team, yeah,

1295
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 2: you've got to say these are players probably the first

1296
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 2: thing to go as a coach, I would guess, well.

1297
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 5: Let's hear from everybody else there. With all three of

1298
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 5: those headlines regarding Ben Simmons obviously here, the Utah Jazz

1299
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 5: and the Quinn Snyder rumors, would you like to see

1300
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 5: him coach the Spurs of the Lakers more as we wrap.

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00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 3: Up interesting, I mean, the Lakers are definitely closer to

1302
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 3: you know, championship windows sort of stuff. The Spurs are

1303
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 3: a bit of a rebuilding project out there, so less

1304
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 3: pressure in San Antonio, but were clamoring in Los Angeles,

1305
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 3: I'd go to the Lakers.

1306
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 4: Okay, come on, Quinn Snyder sitting there on the bench

1307
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 4: next to Jack Nicholson, a couple of jokers in the

1308
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 4: same arena.

1309
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 5: Grant Williams would depend to trade to the Lakes.

1310
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 4: It just it just takes the Lakers Celtics rivalry to

1311
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 4: the next level. Two jokers versus one Batman and a

1312
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 4: bunch of Marvel characters who showed up for some reason.

1313
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 4: Rights itself right, rates itself. What a crossover event, skeets.

1314
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 4: I ran the numbers for you, Yeah, went on stat

1315
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 4: heead all right, you want to not name the top

1316
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 4: five players in points without an All.

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00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 5: Star appearance, okay' ridy guy on the He's.

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Speaker 4: Number four, Okay, jam obviously number one, Jamal Crawford, Nice call.

1319
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 3: CJ McCollum.

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Speaker 4: No, I would say, probably not enough seasons yet, Jamison Maid.

1321
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Brud Strickland.

1322
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 4: Nope, one guy. You might hear his voice. Still no, no, no,

1323
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 4: but they I believe there were teammates in college. You

1324
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 4: have to be an old man to know this one

1325
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 4: and be from Illinois as well. Lee, I bet you've

1326
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 4: talked to this guy maybe if you heard him on

1327
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 4: Sirius XM Brady Eddie Eddie Johnson, Eddy Johnson, number two,

1328
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 4: number three, number three. A recent player, Jamal Crawford like

1329
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 4: kind of player as well. Got a championship. Uh later

1330
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 4: in his career, got a tattoo of his championship. Jason

1331
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 4: Terry at number five. Perhaps the greatest al you thrower

1332
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 4: in NBA history, Andre Miller.

1333
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Speaker 1: There you go.

1334
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 5: That is a lot of points.

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00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 4: Teen and seventy eight. Wow, had a fifty two point game.

1336
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 4: That's true, A weird one.

1337
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 5: That's true. All right, we're gonna take our final break here.

1338
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 5: When we come back, we have a very very fun

1339
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 5: tweeted the night and pick them results and tonight's pick

1340
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 5: them game. Give me some Raptor news. Okay, let's get

1341
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 5: to tweet of the night.

1342
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Speaker 2: Tweet of the night. Wow, Twitt.

1343
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, this one's for the Raptors fans out there at

1344
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 5: bodog Ca tweeted yesterday something that got the Raptors faithful

1345
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 5: all worked up in a tizzy. Do you agree with

1346
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 5: this list of all time Raptors, asked bodog Ca. And

1347
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 5: the list here, I'll read it for everybody that's listening

1348
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 5: to the podcast. You're seeing it here on the stream

1349
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 5: team on YouTube. Top ten Raptors one Lowry two, Vince three,

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00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 5: Bosch four, Derozen five, Kawhi six, Mighty Mouse, Deamons, Dottemeyer seven,

1351
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 5: Tracy McGrady eight, Antonio Davis, nine, Pass Galthiakam and ten

1352
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 5: Morris Peterson.

1353
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 4: Tess.

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01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 5: Again, there were some some Raptors fans are very very

1355
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 5: upset with this list. I would say, notably not happy

1356
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 5: McGrady was on the list. He did play less than

1357
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 5: two hundred games for Toronto. He averaged like ten or

1358
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 5: eleven points per game, you know, as a rookie.

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01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 2: For first three years of his career high schooler, just

1360
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: because just the name recognition exactly.

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01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 5: I mean, he's a Hall of Famer, but it wasn't

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01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 5: because of what he did with Toronto, you want, right,

1363
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 5: and then other people, I would say upset. Mister Hams

1364
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 5: himself Jose Calderone is not cracking that he played over

1365
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 5: five hundred games for the Raptors. You know, for a

1366
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 5: while there led a lot of categories, maybe a valentunis.

1367
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 5: I know you probably want Jorge on there, garba hooboy.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that.

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01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 5: Well, what would you think of that list? What are

1370
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:51,479
Speaker 5: they screwing up there about dogs?

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01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: He A, Well, I love how they were pressured. They

1372
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: were told this ain't right, and they came out. They

1373
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: came out with the revised one.

1374
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 5: Do you want to see the revised one right now?

1375
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 4: Sure?

1376
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: Yes, and then I'll revise their revised one.

1377
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 5: Well there some hashtags snark here.

1378
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 2: Oh oh okay, yeah, so they said after I didn't

1379
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: know it was this joky. I didn't know it was

1380
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 2: oh yeah.

1381
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

1382
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 5: They were like, okay, we'll just put Jose Calderode up

1383
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 5: the number one spot, fifth and sixth and eighth, and

1384
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 5: then there's your acheme Elijah watch. I didn't know master

1385
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 5: p Tracy sticks on there. Oh boogy Williams Alva Williams.

1386
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 5: Yeah so and Swardy Barnes too. So yeah, they were look,

1387
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 5: you know, they were yeah, they saw the comments and

1388
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 5: they said Okay, well, here you go. That's sort of funny.

1389
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 2: But the actual lists, they're pressured and it was determined

1390
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: that they weren't right. The fans who have watched twenty

1391
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 2: five years of Raptors basketball know what they're talking about.

1392
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: And I will say right at the top, Kyle Lowry

1393
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 2: should be number one. I think DeRozan should be number two. Okay,

1394
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 2: I think Vince should be number three. Now you can

1395
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: jumble those around if you want, but I think those

1396
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 2: three are the lynchpins of it. Lowry, DeRozan, Vince Carter,

1397
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 2: and then I think Bosch is a clear number four

1398
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 2: for me, seven years with the Raps five all Star appearances,

1399
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 2: you don't screw with that. I mean, that's longevity and

1400
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 2: all star appearances. Then, as you said, Skeetz, maybe people

1401
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,479
Speaker 2: mad that there aren't sort of fan favorites like Jose

1402
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 2: Calderon and all that. But to me, we're getting to

1403
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 2: a point in Raptors history where you can fill out

1404
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: a top ten with accomplished all stars rather than just

1405
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 2: feel good stories, like feel good players, like guys who've

1406
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 2: been there for a long time like Mars Pears and

1407
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 2: Jose Calderan. So for me, after Bosch at four, I've

1408
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 2: got a bunch of guys who've been there for years

1409
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 2: and are All Stars. I think you could put in

1410
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 2: Pascal Siakam six years and an All Star appearance. You

1411
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 2: got to squeeze in Kawhi he won a championship, Fred

1412
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: van Vliet as well, long tenured raptor with an All

1413
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: Star appearance. Antonio Davis as well. He squeezes in for

1414
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 2: me four and a half seasons and an All Star.

1415
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,439
Speaker 2: So that's five through eight for me, and then okay,

1416
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: there's not enough accomplishments at the nine and ten spot

1417
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 2: where you have to exclude sort of fan favorites, because

1418
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 2: nine and ten are fan favorites. Really to me, that's

1419
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: the category Alvin William and or Damon Stodomyer who did

1420
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 2: win a Rookie of the Year, and or Jose Calderon

1421
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 2: and or Morris Peterson. So so to me, the guys

1422
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 2: who made the All Star appearance and a championship in Kawhi,

1423
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: those are the top eight, and then you know some

1424
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 2: fun at the bottom.

1425
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 5: Okay, so it sounds like I mean, basically they're the

1426
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 5: top was somewhat right, but you think DeRozan should be

1427
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 5: higher especially than like a bosh like they had him

1428
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 5: on the list.

1429
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 2: No question, right, DeRose you get extra points for being

1430
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 2: dealt away rather than not you know demand then yes,

1431
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 2: I mean Evince also sort of demanded, but yeah, yeah,

1432
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 2: different reasons there.

1433
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 5: And then you had Van Vliet, who over the last

1434
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 5: three seasons is averaging twenty seven and four and like

1435
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 5: you said, made an All Star team. And I think

1436
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 5: he is on the list too. I mean he's he's

1437
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 5: above Morris Peterson. I mean I would have him probably

1438
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 5: above like an Antonio Davis too.

1439
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, well that's when when they put out top ten,

1440
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 3: they need to be specific, like just favorite players, like accomplishments.

1441
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 5: You know, because because yeah, all time Raptors.

1442
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 3: I love, I've got the Mopeak jerseys, t Peak jerseys.

1443
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 3: Of course he's going to be like number five on

1444
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 3: my list, but he's not really there in terms of accomplishments.

1445
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 3: If you go on straight out fan favorites, I think

1446
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 3: j y d is on there.

1447
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 5: You know what, we're not going to do what about this?

1448
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 3: We're still playing what about this guy? Because a guy

1449
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 3: who was loved by Raptors fans while he was in Toronto,

1450
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 3: but kind of forgotten is Amir Johnson. People love Meir Johnson.

1451
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 5: He's not going to make this type of list.

1452
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 3: Well, they don't specific specify what the list is.

1453
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 5: I mean, they're just throw all time Raptors means when

1454
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 5: they tweet that, But what is that based on opinion

1455
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 5: or is it based on fact?

1456
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 3: Is it based on games.

1457
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 4: Opinion?

1458
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 3: But the point is I think that I think they

1459
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 3: were looking for a fight that had that second one

1460
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,439
Speaker 3: ready to go, and it worked. Because we're talking about

1461
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 3: is tweeter then people they know people do laugh that, like,

1462
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 3: how aren't you putting someone at number six and not

1463
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 3: number five?

1464
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 4: That's that's so.

1465
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 3: Disrespectful, you know so, But Kawhi Leonard's going to be

1466
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 3: up there too.

1467
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 5: I mean, Coy Leonard played eighty more games for the

1468
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 5: Raptors if you include the posts.

1469
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's the crazy thing.

1470
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 5: That's insane.

1471
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 3: If it didn't rest his fourth game or something like that.

1472
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 5: He played sixty regular season games and twenty four in

1473
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 5: the in the run of the title.

1474
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 3: But but he has to be on this list, absolutely, yeah, absolutely,

1475
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 3: he's going to get a statue, well some sort of

1476
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:17,919
Speaker 3: recognition at some point.

1477
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 4: He has to.

1478
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 5: He has to Okay, I don't know a statue, smaller statue.

1479
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 3: Would you rather have one season of Kawhi Leonard or

1480
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 3: like how many more peoples?

1481
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 5: Or all of the Amir Johnson seasons?

1482
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1483
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 3: No offense, Yeah any fun fun.

1484
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously a great tweet, got the engagement, had the

1485
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 5: second one little laugh to go and there you go.

1486
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 5: Just do this for every team and you yeah, applies.

1487
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:50,919
Speaker 4: I mean I think you could have had the same

1488
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 4: You could have still had a spicy discussion if you

1489
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 4: kept it at five. There's five quality ones for the

1490
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 4: Raptors top five, as we saw, and then you can

1491
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 4: still have an argument like could you put Damon Stodamaier

1492
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 4: ahead of Kawhi Leonard, you know, just for being there

1493
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 4: a little bit longer. But mo Peterson makes the list

1494
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:08,919
Speaker 4: for me as well, because if it wasn't for mo Pete,

1495
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:09,959
Speaker 4: we wouldn't have mo Vernie.

1496
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 2: That's right, It's very important.

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Speaker 4: That very true.

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Speaker 5: Oh I'd love to hear mo Vernie's top ten rats. Yeah, exactly,

1499
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 5: we can make that happen. Okay, let's get to picking results.

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01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 5: Last night it was the Raptors Bulls Chicago Fair by

1501
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 5: four and a half at home. This brought to you

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01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 5: by Bett MGM, and a lot of us were taking

1503
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 5: the Bulls, myself included noted Raptors fans. I mean, I

1504
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 5: went against my team, but uh I did not like this,

1505
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 5: uh this schedule loss which I thought was coming into

1506
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 5: play there last night and the Bulls getting Patrick Williams

1507
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 5: back and they needed that win, and they guy and

1508
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 5: they got done, They got took care of business. So

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01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 5: task is the only one that picks up the l

1510
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 5: win for Trey, win for me, win for Leep. We

1511
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 5: got a three way tie atop the leaderboard, US three,

1512
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 5: eight and seven. All right, Trey tassing myself, Lee six

1513
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 5: and nine. You know, your two games back, but still

1514
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 5: a lot of basketball to be played here in the

1515
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 5: month of March. So this is a big one. Anybody

1516
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 5: could lose. It's my favorite part. What's the game tonight?

1517
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 5: That's only four on, only.

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01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: Four on, Yeah, the rest of the Slate Warriors at

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01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 2: the Magic, the Bulls at the Bucks. It's a seven

1520
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 2: and a half point line for the Milwaukee Bucks. Yeah,

1521
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 2: Juicy and the Clippers are visiting the Nuggets, all fairly

1522
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: large lines. Those three games. The game we're going with

1523
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 2: the closest line the tightest line. The Hawks are visiting

1524
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 2: the Knicks. The Knicks are one and a half point dogs,

1525
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 2: although that's expanded to two and a half points. But

1526
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 2: because Randall, because of Julius Randall's news, yes he is

1527
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: not playing tonight. A couple of us feeling the Knicks.

1528
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 2: Of course three of us actually skeets training myself. Did

1529
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 2: I say, Nick Skees train myself with the Hawks in

1530
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 2: New York? Are right in atl to bounce back after

1531
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: that loss to almost near.

1532
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 4: Lost to Charlotte. What happened?

1533
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 2: They lost to Charlotte? I'm sorry you're lost of the

1534
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 2: Grizzlies beforehand. Excuse me, I'm all over the place. They're

1535
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 2: going into New York. Lee the only one with the

1536
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 2: statue of Liberty.

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Speaker 4: I do know.

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01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 5: I feel confident about this pic. In fact, in the

1539
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 5: slack channel this morning when tasky was the game, I

1540
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 5: put wolf because I was like, I don't know. I mean,

1541
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 5: the Knicks, like, I don't think they're making the play

1542
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 5: in but if they lose this, they're definitely not making it.

1543
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 5: So I guess they're playing for that? Are they helped out?

1544
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 5: I know Julius Randalls, I mean we didn't know that

1545
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 5: at the time we're making the pick in the morning,

1546
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 5: and then it come out about an hour.

1547
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 3: Or two later, just before the show, you said Julius

1548
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,560
Speaker 3: Randall's out, and I was like, Initially I was like,

1549
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 3: oh damn, but then I'm like, we just saw the

1550
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 3: Sixers last night with that, Yeah, two of this was

1551
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 3: put in a great performance. Maybe I don't know who

1552
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 3: knows putting your faith at the Knicks to keep you

1553
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 3: alive in the pick them. I don't also feel all

1554
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 3: that confident right, No, for sure, for sure.

1555
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 5: But the Hawks are jackling hide. One night they look great,

1556
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 5: like against the Grizzlies. The next night they look so

1557
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 5: who knows.

1558
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 2: Great comment from Ziggy and the stream team, Julius Randall

1559
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 2: is just worth one point ouch in terms of the lines.

1560
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 2: This is a good point. That's a very good point.

1561
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 5: Bad season for the next all right, Well, good luck

1562
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 5: to everybody that Hawks Knicks game only four on tonight,

1563
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 5: strange because there's no college men's basketball, a little weird,

1564
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 5: but we will be back tomorrow to talk about those

1565
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 5: four games, any of the NBA news and maybe some

1566
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,960
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1567
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1569
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1577
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1578
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1581
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Speaker 3: Just think we should delay just to give it a

1585
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Speaker 3: bit more emphasis as to what the shirt is. You

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Speaker 2: You heard it here first.

1602
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Speaker 4: Have a great time, turn up, Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember I hope you have

1604
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Speaker 2: yourself a great night.

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Speaker 5: Embrace today, people,