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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, how's everybody doing here?

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Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you One Bill's Live. Welcome

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Speaker 3: to a Tuesday edition and plenty of NFL news coming

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Speaker 3: down the pike all morning and into the first hour

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Speaker 3: of the afternoon. Here in the twelve o'clock hour, we'll

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Speaker 3: get you up to speed on any and all of it.

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Speaker 3: I guess the best place for us to begin is

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Speaker 3: kind of where we left off yesterday. We had Dean

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Speaker 3: Blandino on the show Fox NFL rules analyst who also

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Speaker 3: worked as the vice president of Officiating in the NFL

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Speaker 3: for five years, then assisted the XFL with their officiating,

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Speaker 3: was doing live officiating reviews on TV for those telecasts.

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Speaker 3: So he's a guy that's pretty plugged in and he

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Speaker 3: was hearing yesterday. The way everything was going was that

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Speaker 3: it was possible the league would table a vote on

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Speaker 3: the new kickoff rule because they didn't have the required

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Speaker 3: seventy five percent support. They didn't have the votes to

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Speaker 3: get it to pass. We thought today was the last

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Speaker 3: day of the owners meetings, and according to Competition Committee

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Speaker 3: Chair Rich McKay, he confirmed it. We didn't have the

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Speaker 3: votes yesterday, so they put their lobbyists to work with

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Speaker 3: NFL ownership and said, look, we really got to put

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Speaker 3: this through. We need a change. We've got no returns.

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Speaker 3: Returns are not happening anymore in the game. We got

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Speaker 3: to get that fixed. And a compromise was made, which

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Speaker 3: I'll get to in a second, but basically, the lobbyists

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Speaker 3: believed they got the votes they needed and the vote

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Speaker 3: came down today by a final count of twenty nine

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Speaker 3: to three, and the new kickoff rule is in. It

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Speaker 3: has passed, and although it only has a one year

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Speaker 3: implementation for twenty twenty four, that is not with the

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Speaker 3: anticipation that it will be yanked out again next year.

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Speaker 3: It's with the anticipation that there may have to be

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Speaker 3: some tweaks and changes. That is why it is listed

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Speaker 3: as a one year rule change for twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: It's because they think they'll have to amend some things

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Speaker 3: here and there after seeing it for an entire regular

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Speaker 2: But it is a done deal.

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Speaker 3: The compromise steve that had to take place to get

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Speaker 3: the required vote support. They essentially made the end zone

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Speaker 3: touchback now a drive start of the thirty yard line.

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Speaker 2: The initial proposal had it at the thirty.

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Speaker 3: Five, So McKay is a little disappointed in that because

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Speaker 3: he believes the increase in returns had it been the

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Speaker 3: thirty five, would be an eighty five percent jump in

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Speaker 3: kick returns. Instead moving the touchback back to the thirty

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Speaker 3: he thinks returns will only increase fifty percent. That being said, well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: from eighty five percent increase in returns to fifty percent

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Speaker 3: increase in returns from what it was last year.

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Speaker 2: When it all comes.

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Speaker 3: Out in the wash, they were going to be one

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Speaker 3: thousand to twelve hundred more returns based on their calculations

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Speaker 3: this coming season, and they believe that is a more

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Speaker 3: exciting on field product.

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Speaker 1: Think about it. That's like, so I'm.

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Speaker 3: Gonna put it to you, Steve, if you had to

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Speaker 3: guess last season, how many kick returns did the Bills

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Speaker 3: have for the entire season Last year?

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Speaker 1: Ten I'll say ten.

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Speaker 3: Seventeen, okay, one per game, essentially one per game. Their

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Speaker 3: opponents had twenty nine returns, but looking around the league,

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Speaker 3: it's around one kick return a game. Bengals had seventeen. Also,

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Speaker 3: there were a few other teams that were in the

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Speaker 3: teams for total kick returns for the season. That now

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Speaker 3: jump increased that by fifty percent, and that'll give you

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Speaker 3: an idea on what the Bills'll be looking at it.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna change things. I've been watching some footage from

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Speaker 1: kind of times up. It's gonna be your your return.

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Speaker 1: because they're gonna have to be running into running into traffic. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It's it's what it does basically when you watch it,

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Speaker 1: and having watched a bunch of kickoffs and all of that,

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Speaker 1: it's the last five seconds of a kickoff that you

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Speaker 1: And that is the difference. It's the last you know,

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Speaker 1: It's going to be live. So instead of watching the

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Speaker 2: Right, So if a ball lands in the end zone

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Speaker 3: Or goes out of the back of the end zone,

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Speaker 3: the drive start for the receiving team will be their

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Speaker 2: It was originally the thirty five.

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Speaker 3: That was the compromise to get the required votes to

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Speaker 3: pass it. It's only going to be the thirty yard

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Speaker 3: line now. We just ran a graphic for our MSG

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Speaker 3: It is now the thirty And I'll have to make

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Speaker 3: sure that it wasn't changed as far as downing it

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Speaker 3: but if it's in the landing area between the receiving

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Speaker 3: has to hit and that's where I think a lot

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Speaker 3: of teams are going to put the ball. See talked

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Speaker 3: to Dean Blandino about this yesterday and said, hey, what

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Speaker 3: was the general approach of kicking teams.

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Speaker 2: In the XFL?

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Speaker 3: And he said the general approach was keep it between

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Speaker 3: the five yard line to prompt a return, feeling that

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Speaker 3: your coverage team should be good enough to keep him

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Speaker 3: get on a touch back.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, the ball has to land past the twenty,

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Speaker 1: all of that, and if it bounces out of the

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Speaker 1: There you go. If he downs in the end zone,

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Speaker 1: it's out to it's out to the thirty.

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Speaker 2: I don't well, I gotta check. I think that's right here.

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Speaker 1: There's one where it's and there's one where it goes

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Speaker 1: only to the twenty, and I can't.

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Speaker 2: I don't guess.

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Speaker 3: Any kick that hits in the landing zone and then

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Speaker 3: by the receiving team, And if that's the case, then

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Speaker 3: they get it at their own twenty.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: So if it if it hits the landing.

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Speaker 1: In the end If the dude catches it and downs

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Speaker 1: it in the end zone, it's to the twenty.

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Speaker 3: No, if it goes in the end zone on a

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Speaker 3: So to me, if you're the return man and you

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Speaker 3: see it's reaching the end zone, you're letting it go

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Speaker 3: over your head. Why would you field it. It's going

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Speaker 3: to the thirty, right, But if it bounces in the

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Speaker 3: got to so the key grab it and either return

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Speaker 3: that's going to be the general approach of kicking teams.

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Speaker 1: I would think the key. The key is though, if

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Speaker 2: It's why you kick it between the numbers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, then you've got an edge as the kicking team

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Speaker 1: because the guy's got field it for one, and if

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Speaker 1: There's either this getting spoted at the twenty or you

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Speaker 1: tackle him inside that.

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Speaker 3: No one's gonna put it on a fly in the

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Speaker 3: end zone unless they are absolutely unequivocally terrified of the

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Speaker 3: return man, or if there's like if or six starters

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Speaker 3: on your kick coverage team or injured.

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Speaker 1: Into the game or something like that or whatever. Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're way up. Yeah, you're way up. And you don't

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Speaker 1: you want on a live ball, right? Yeah, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be fun to see it. It looks different, gonna change

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Speaker 1: the game, It's gonna change the way it looks, and

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Speaker 1: it will. It's going to foster some creativity on special

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Speaker 1: teams coaches as well. We'll have to see what they do.

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Speaker 3: But let's not forget it was special teams coordinators that

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Speaker 3: largely drew this play up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. And I'm a'll say this too. I

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Speaker 1: see on the horizon, you know, with the end of

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Speaker 1: game lateral play where you got one last play you're

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Speaker 1: throwing they're trying to throw it back and always never

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Speaker 2: You want a solution for that, a better play for.

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Speaker 1: That, right, And I'm thinking rugby, would the rugby play

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Speaker 1: where the guys are strung out, and the guy just

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Speaker 1: just keep doing it. You can see some of that

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Speaker 1: the coverage limitations. Yeah, I think it's fascinating. I think

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Speaker 3: Already taking another step ahead there, Steve. We just got

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Speaker 3: this thing instituted. You're thinking for solutions, you got to

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Speaker 3: get you on the committee.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: You got to lob a call into Rich.

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Speaker 1: As you know, I talked too much to be any committee.

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Speaker 3: The other interesting thing, Steve, and we mentioned this when

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Speaker 3: we went down the run of the list of proposals

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Speaker 3: that we're going to be submitted during the owner's meetings.

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Speaker 3: There were two submitted by the bills regarding playing rule

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Speaker 3: by the Competition Committee on behalf of the bills to

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Speaker 3: a bonifid quarterback an unlimited number of times from its

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Speaker 3: practice squad to the active list on game day to

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Speaker 3: be the emergency third quarterback, thereby keeping a team from

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Speaker 3: occupying a fifty three man roster spot with a third quarterback. Now,

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Speaker 3: the Bills have never done that in the McDermott bean

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Speaker 3: era anyway, barring injury, they've often had a third quarterback

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Speaker 3: on the practice squad. So they proposed that that passed,

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Speaker 3: so that is now permissible. So I don't know if

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Speaker 3: there's gonna be any team in the league that's going

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Speaker 3: to carry three quarterbacks anymore.

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Speaker 2: When you can put a third on the practice squad.

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Speaker 3: And call them up whenever you want, probably only gonna

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Speaker 3: have two qbs on the active roster right for every

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Speaker 1: But you've got him up that you got to have

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's him hanging around the building and he

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Speaker 1: doesn't count as a roster spot, which is you know,

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Speaker 1: it's huge because and with the practice squad the way

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Speaker 3: I hope, I hope Miami and the Jets push back

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Speaker 3: I can't see them going back to two of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but this will give them a chance to get

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Speaker 3: Those Billy New York, Dallas, Washington. You gotta new staff

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Speaker 1: I think you get past the cities. Saquon Barkley barely

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Speaker 3: They're trying to institute a fresh new kind of feel

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Speaker 3: Right, And I think the other division that would merit

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Speaker 3: Aaron is enough of a polarizing figure all by himself,

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Speaker 1: Oh baby, I'm telling you, I got.

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Speaker 1: Josh is absolutely appointment viewing for everybody who has any

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Speaker 1: And I'd like to hear a better option.

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna play the Niners this year, so you

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Speaker 2: So get the League MVP in there.

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Speaker 3: Week one, at Arrowhead while the Chiefs are raising the

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Speaker 2: Body, listen, I hang in that time of year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't move the needles. Who cares? There are right,

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Speaker 1: They played Sunday, They're gonna play Thursday. Oh, it's so unsafe,

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Speaker 1: and you know, please shut up. The injury statistics are

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Speaker 1: flat Sunday to Thursday. On Thursday night games, they're flat.

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Speaker 1: They're the exact same ratios they are on every other weekend,

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Speaker 1: every other game. The league trumpets that loud and clear,

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Speaker 1: and so spare me the stuff about the Thursday nights

446
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Speaker 1: because they're just gonna play these guys on Thursday or

447
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Speaker 1: is the Saturday game like they said, and then they'll

448
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Speaker 1: play on a third and it's the same thing they've

449
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Speaker 1: done for however long Thursday night football has been around.

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Speaker 1: It's not a big deal. Yeah, but I know I'm

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Speaker 1: maybe one of the few old former players who's like,

452
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Speaker 1: not swayed by this, but.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Steve, you're looking at the end of the year.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say you're in a playoff the only thing

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Speaker 3: you're in a playoff race.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end of the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you play Sunday Week fifteen or week fourteen. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you play the following Saturday, Week fifteen, and then you

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Speaker 3: play the following Wednesday, Week sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Three games in eleven days at the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: Done that before, They've done that before. I know.

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Speaker 3: But at the end it's not easy to pull off

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Speaker 3: if you're in a playoff race.

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Speaker 1: Say this, and I get it. In a season, a

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Speaker 1: long round, grinding everything. Listen, the end of the season

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Speaker 1: now is only affected by the fact that you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have guys injured. That's a problem, but that's the same

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Speaker 1: for both teams. And it's not going to change whether

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Speaker 1: you have guys injured for the game and out or

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Speaker 1: whether they play well.

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Speaker 3: I think you do because if you have a guy,

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Speaker 3: let's say that Sunday game, you have a guy that

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Speaker 3: gets dinged and he's not ready to play the next Saturday.

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Speaker 1: He might be ready. It's like it was on Sunday and.

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Speaker 3: The following Sunday. He might be ready, but he's not

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Speaker 3: because you're playing on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the same with every game. That's that's the

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Speaker 1: same with week two. On a Sunday to Sunday, not

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Speaker 1: just a Thursday to Sunday, that's the same name. The

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Speaker 1: guy might be ready, he might not be ready. It

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Speaker 1: depends on the injury.

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Speaker 3: If you've got a guy with a with a twelve

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Speaker 3: day injury and you're playing three games in eleven days,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna miss two games instead of one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, here's the thing. Here's how

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Speaker 1: we fix that. We play NFL games for as long

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Speaker 1: as it takes for everybody to get healthy, and then

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Speaker 1: we'll have another game. Let's just do that, and that

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Speaker 1: may it'll be all be fair like that. Okay, we'll

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Speaker 1: have a game once a month. We'll have a game

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Speaker 1: once a month every season. Every season will take a

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Speaker 1: decade to play. It'll take a decade to play. Don't

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Speaker 1: come on, they're fine. They're fine that that. These short

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Speaker 1: week things are a little bit trom and I get

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Speaker 1: it it. You know the hard part about it. It's

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Speaker 1: not the game it's the travel, it's the upheaval of

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Speaker 1: your personal life and all your routine and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: The guys hate it, would argue it's how your body feels.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you could speak to that better than I could, obviously. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: just talking to a lot of these players with these

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Speaker 3: Thursday night games late in the season, I get it.

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Speaker 3: They don't even feel right, start to feel right till Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: That late in the season. You ain't gonna feel right

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Speaker 1: until February. Yeah, forget it. I can't. You can't get

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Speaker 1: around it. The physicality of the game is always going

506
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Speaker 1: to be there. It's always going to be a factor.

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Speaker 1: And here's the kicker, it's always going to be unpredictable.

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Speaker 1: You can't plan for it, right, so not don't try to.

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Speaker 1: And I get this too. I'll say this, playing on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: you can just like it don't matter anymore. They practice,

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Speaker 1: You can't practice. Nothing is sacred. Nothing's saying whatever game

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Speaker 1: they wanted, whatever day they're gonna pull off, because COVID

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Speaker 1: proved it, they'll do. Oh yeah, so they're gonna say,

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Speaker 1: you know, and believe me. Think about the Bills hosting

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs at four point thirty on Christmas Wednesday, Christmas Day,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna there will be seventy million viewers for that

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Speaker 1: seventy yeah.

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Speaker 3: Because everybody's home. And that's that's the whole reason. Hans Schroeder,

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Speaker 3: who works for the league, who made the presentation today

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Speaker 3: at the league meetings, basically said the ratings that were

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Speaker 3: pulled for previous Christmas Day games were off the charts.

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Speaker 2: It was too profitable to ignore. So here we are.

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Speaker 3: You thought Christmas was commercialized already, wait till we have

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Speaker 3: a double head or football.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable and now and now here's the thing. They did

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Speaker 1: it last year. Now they do it this year on

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Speaker 1: a Wednesday. Next year it's going to be what on

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday because it was a leap year.

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Speaker 2: There's a leap year, so it might be Wednesday again. No,

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Speaker 2: it'll be because the day won't advance because you lose

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Speaker 2: a day. Next year. Every year the day moves up

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Speaker 2: one usually.

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Speaker 1: Right, but this year it moved two because of the

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Speaker 1: leap year.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so it'll be Thursday.

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Speaker 1: So it'll be it'll be a Thursday. It's a move

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Speaker 1: forward or backwards forward. So it's not gonna be a Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a Thursday Thursday Ago Thursdays, you

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Speaker 1: just gonna have six teams playing on Thursday instead of two.

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Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's breezy, easy, peasy, lemon squeeze.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So that we'll see what happens when the schedule comes out.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, that my point was a tradition

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Speaker 1: like unlike any other it's going to.

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Speaker 2: Be doubleheader on a Wednesday, Christmas Day.

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Speaker 1: People are going to anticipate, like in twenty twenty seven

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Speaker 1: when it's on a Tuesday. Again, let's go.

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Speaker 3: And I would imagine that those four teams are going

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Speaker 3: to be announced in one of those trickle out announcements.

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Speaker 3: You know how they have different schedule things trickle out

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Speaker 3: before the actual full schedule is out in May. That's

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Speaker 3: one of those that'll trickle out in April sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Right, because two, the league has to float that out

554
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Speaker 1: there to the team say listen, here's what we're going

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Speaker 1: to do, and the teams will go, no, we don't

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Speaker 1: want to do it, and they'll entice them somehow or

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Speaker 1: someway or whatever, and then it's got to be because

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Speaker 1: the teams don't want to do that.

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Speaker 3: Topic of discussion for you today, involves a poll. We

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Speaker 3: need you to weigh in on this. Which NFL rule

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Speaker 3: or overall change made by the NFL are you most

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Speaker 3: intrigued by? Is it the new kickoff rule, the Christmas

563
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Speaker 3: Day games, the hip drop tackle ban, or replay for

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Speaker 3: the game clock? Now, a reviewable play is if the

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Speaker 3: play clock gets down to zero and nobody on the

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Speaker 3: field called it and the play goes off. If it

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Speaker 3: was obvious to the replay assistant upstairs that the clock

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Speaker 3: hit zero and it should have been delay of game.

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Speaker 2: It can now be reviewed.

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Speaker 3: The new kickoff is kind of running away with it

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Speaker 3: as expected, But you let us know what you think.

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Speaker 2: At eight oh three oh.

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Speaker 3: Five fifty one eight eight five fifty two, five fifty

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Speaker 3: the number to get on board.

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Speaker 2: You got open lines for you.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing I'm it's the players and the coaches,

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Speaker 1: the players, the game clock thing, the play clock. It's

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Speaker 1: not the game clock, it's the play clock.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: So if the play clock goes down and goes to

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Speaker 1: zero before they snat, we all see it because the

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Speaker 1: broadcast play they super imposed it. Yeah, they supermposed it.

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Speaker 1: We can all see it. It's it's easy as it

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Speaker 1: can be. It can be so it. This is totally

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Speaker 1: in control of the teams. And if you start, all

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Speaker 1: you had to do is you could have fixed it

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Speaker 1: last year with saying, hey, call it, don't let it slide,

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Speaker 1: because the league is obviously telling the officials you know whatever.

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Speaker 1: You know, we just wanted to play. We just want

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Speaker 1: it is about it. It was about it getting the

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Speaker 1: game going faster, the get play clock rather than anything else.

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Speaker 1: So just if it's close, let it go. Oh you

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Speaker 1: do say lo call it the officialsy call it in

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Speaker 1: that hard. Come on, they know now that this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be I think that's a nothing rule change. I

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Speaker 1: think certainly.

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Speaker 2: It says I like that it's in there.

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Speaker 1: I do too. I do too. Making it reviewable means

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get it right all the time.

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Speaker 3: Break time for us here, but when we come back,

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Speaker 3: Ron and Buffalo, Chuck and Hamburg will lead us off.

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Speaker 3: But open lines for you at ATO three oh five

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Speaker 3: fifty one eight eight five point fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 3: which NFL rule or overall change made by the NFL

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Speaker 3: are you most intrigued by voting the poll and then

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Speaker 3: let us know talking to you next here on one

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Speaker 3: Bill's Live presented by co Lout of Health.

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, which.

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Speaker 3: NFL rule or change made by the NFL. You're most

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Speaker 3: intrigued by the kickoff rule? Christmas Day double header on

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Speaker 3: a Wednesday, hip drop tackle van or video video replay

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Speaker 3: for playclock expiration when delay of game is not called.

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Speaker 3: And let us know at ATO three oh five fifty,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna get right to the phones. People waiting patiently there.

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Speaker 3: And we lead.

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Speaker 2: Off with Ron in Buffalo. What's up? Ron?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 5: How you doing?

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Speaker 6: Guys?

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Speaker 7: You know, I don't mind the kickoff rules, but the

622
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Speaker 7: touch back leave it at twenty or twenty five not

623
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Speaker 7: thirty five. That's just you know, these guys are professional athletes.

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Speaker 7: Make them work for their money, That's all I have

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Speaker 7: to say.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well they did amend it already. Ron, it's the

627
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Speaker 3: thirty now, not the thirty five. That was a compromise

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Speaker 3: they put in to get the vote passed.

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Speaker 1: And they wanted to make it out there far enough.

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Speaker 1: And when you say make them work for it, that

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Speaker 1: goes both ways. You got to defend it too.

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Speaker 2: So trying to make the kicking team work for yeah,

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Speaker 2: they I'm just putting it in the end.

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Speaker 1: Zone, right, They're trying to incentivize a guy catching it

635
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Speaker 1: and running with it and making the kickoff a live play,

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Speaker 1: which it looks like they're gonna do. That's yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what it should be. I think, yeah, and I'm all

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 3: I want returns back in the game. They're going to

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Speaker 3: tweak the rules on the kickoff play every which way

641
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Speaker 3: they can to promote returns. Makes the game more exciting

642
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: on that play gives.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this as a guy who is a

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Speaker 1: bit player myself, all these guys don't want you know,

645
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Speaker 1: when you're the forty third or thirty eighth to the

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Speaker 1: forty eighth player on the roster on the game day roster,

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Speaker 1: and you play one or two plays of offense or

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Speaker 1: one or two plays of defense or whatever, you just

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Speaker 1: want a chance to contribute. And so having an extra

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Speaker 1: live play like a kickoff return or kickoff coverage gives

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Speaker 1: you a chance to do that instead of just going

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Speaker 1: out there and ceremonially running down the field.

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Speaker 3: Which is what happened in the Super Bowl thirteen times,

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Speaker 3: thirteen kickoffs, no returns. Let's go to Chuck in Hamburg next.

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Speaker 3: What do you got for us Chuck.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. One of the tweaks that I don't think they've

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Speaker 5: been mentioned yet is there's no longer any fair catches. Correct, Yeah, correct.

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Speaker 3: That was the one year rule that they put in

659
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Speaker 3: last year that it bombed quite frankly, because it took

660
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Speaker 3: Turns completely out of the game. So it was only

661
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Speaker 3: in for one year to begin with, so it was

662
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Speaker 3: never going to be a part of this new rule

663
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Speaker 3: in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 5: And my only other comment is if the PSL press

665
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 5: that I'm hearing are true, there's gonna be a lot

666
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 5: of sad Buffalo Bill boosters out there.

667
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Speaker 1: I'll say this, if you want to go to the

668
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: games in the new stadium, you're gonna be able to

669
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: go to the games in the new stadium. Basically what

670
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: the industry is ounce And we heard that. We heard

671
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: this in you know, some meetings and behind in status

672
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: reports along the way. The PSL stuff, they're gonna they're

673
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: gonna let the people who are willing to spend the

674
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: most money get whatever they want, and like it's going

675
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: to descend. So yeah, the people who are willing to

676
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: spend the most money, they'll give them what they can

677
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: they can give them, and then it'll and then as

678
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: as those people run out, they'll start to lower it

679
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: and it'll start to come down towards the people like

680
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: you and me, but like this too. There's some seats

681
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: in this stadium in high Mark here now that the

682
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: bills playing now that are a little too pricey for

683
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: me as well. Those are always going to be there.

684
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 1: And it's the way where we live. But the way

685
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: that it's an industry practice, the way they're divvying up

686
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: the tickets to be sold now, and the way it

687
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: is is they the biggest money gets to pick where

688
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: they sit and and the amenities, and then when that

689
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: that market's right, then they go to the next tier

690
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: and they see who's gonna spend what for that, and

691
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: then they go to the next year, next year. So

692
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Speaker 1: most of.

693
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Speaker 3: Us saying, as you're hearing about the most exorbitant prices

694
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Speaker 3: right now, because they're being catered to first.

695
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the people with the biggest pockets kind of you know,

696
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: can come in and say, Okay, I'm not gonna pay

697
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: I'll pay for this and this and this. Uh so

698
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: they'll pay for it. The rest of us, you know.

699
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: Figer quotes normal and I mean financially normal people, not mentally.

700
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, right, we're gonna get our chance to buy

701
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: tickets and we're gonna love them. And I'll say this too,

702
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: when you get in this new stadium, we are all

703
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: gonna love it. It's gonna be awesome, I promise you.

704
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: So don't be frightened by the PSL stuff that you're hearing.

705
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: Certainly there's astronomical prices being asked, but they're gonna get

706
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: the biggest money. People are gonna buy the seats that

707
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of us want to sit

708
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: in anyway, but you know they want certain things and

709
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: they're gonna pay whatever it takes to get them. Those

710
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: people go first, and then there's a step below them,

711
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: and a step below that, and a step in another set,

712
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: and they're just gonna step it down until you know,

713
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: fifty thousand of the seats are gonna be for the

714
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: rest of us. Yeah, you know what I mean.

715
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: So, and look, I know that we've been living somewhat

716
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 3: of a charmed life as NFL fans here for longer

717
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: than most because we've had a stadium.

718
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: Last a lot longer than that was huge too.

719
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: PSLs have been a common business practice in the NFL

720
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: for over twenty years. I mean the Carolina Panthers built

721
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: their stadium in the late nineties they had PSLs, So

722
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: this has been around for twenty five years now as

723
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: a common busines and his practice in the league. We've

724
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: just haven't had to see it implemented here because the

725
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 3: new stadium hasn't shown up until twenty twenty six. But

726
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 3: it's just the fact of the way NFL clubs do business,

727
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: and I realize that it might not be the best

728
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 3: thing that any of us want to hear.

729
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: I guess what, that's kind of the way everybody else

730
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: does it.

731
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's an industry practice. And I'll say this too,

732
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: just just if wait long enough, you're the price will

733
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: come down to you. The price will come down to you.

734
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: It's where you can get in, so don't worry about it.

735
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: And you're going to love the seats. You're going to

736
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: love the seats.

737
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: Let's go to Harold in Rochester next. What's up, Harold.

738
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 8: Hey, I've got a couple of questions on the new

739
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 8: kickoff role that hopefully you can clear up for me.

740
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 8: If the ball falls off the tee a couple of times,

741
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 8: does a player have to go back to hold the kickoff.

742
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: That's a great question.

743
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: I have the answer to that.

744
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 3: There's going to be a kicking stick brought out to

745
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 3: allow the kicker to have the ball held for him

746
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 3: by that three prong kicking stick. I don't know if

747
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: you guys have seen that before, and then they do

748
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: it on the side and then it's the job of

749
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 3: the nearest official to pick it up after the kick.

750
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: That's how the rule read. So that's how that's going

751
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: to be addressed.

752
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 8: Oh right, not going to run out there to go

753
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 8: get the.

754
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: Right that's a great question. Did not know. I did

755
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: not think about that.

756
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 8: The other thing was on is on side kicks just done?

757
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 9: Now?

758
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: No, So here's here's how onside kicks are going to work. Uh,

759
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 3: First and foremost, the surprise on side kick is a dinosaur.

760
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: It's extinct because obviously if you're if you're gonna line

761
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: up for an on side kick, it's going to be

762
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: a different formation and a different yard line the traditional

763
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: thirty five yard line. Now here's the new rules as

764
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: they currently stand. On the on side s kick. It

765
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: has to be the fourth quarter, your team has to

766
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: be trailing, and then you have to inform the official

767
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 3: that you are going to an attempt to attempt an

768
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: on side's kick. Now, one of the reasons that the

769
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: onside kick recovery rate had dropped to an all time

770
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 3: low of five percent last season was because the new

771
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 3: rules to protect players on kickoffs was balanced formations. You

772
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: had to put five players on one side of the

773
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: ball five players on the other. This under the new

774
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 3: on side kick rules, you can have an unbalanced formation,

775
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: but you can only put six players on one side

776
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 3: of the ball four on the other. You can't put

777
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: nine over there. So, yes, on side kicks are in

778
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 3: dead surprise. On side kicks are because you have to

779
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: declare it, and you have to be in the fourth

780
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: quarter and you have to be trailing.

781
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 8: Okay, And my final question, Tea is how do you

782
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 8: think this affects the players that are going to be

783
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 8: used out there? I mean, you want a really fast

784
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 8: guy to return the kick. How do you cover it?

785
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I think you're gonna you're gonna see

786
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: a premium put on athlete who can block tight ends,

787
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: full backs, that kind of stuff. On specialty linebackers, edge guys,

788
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: those tweener guys are who you got to you gotta

789
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: be able to play in space. So it may be

790
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: tough for like an offensive lineman to make that, but

791
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: it's like basic football one on one. The bigger faster

792
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: you are, and the better you play in space and

793
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: with more size, the better off you're gonna be on

794
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: that kickoff return. Now, you'll have some guys you know,

795
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: built more like me, and guys built more like you know,

796
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 1: Greg russo U and everything in between. It'll be it'll

797
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: come down to can the guy make plays and can

798
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: he shed blocks or get off blocks or get a

799
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: round blocks or whatever. Because the the play is being

800
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: distilled down to the to the point where the returner

801
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: gets to the interference where the coverage team, the blockers

802
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: on the return team, and the return man with the

803
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: ball all get to that spot and they all get

804
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: there a kind of the same time. That's what the

805
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: play is gonna be now, and so it's those kind

806
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: of players that are most effective in there. There's gonna

807
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: be sometimes there's a little bit of space, but if

808
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: you've got a returner who can go side to side

809
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: and make, you know, spread it out a little bit

810
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: and then cut back hard and set up blocks, there's

811
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of that going on too.

812
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: I think the one thing we have to remember also

813
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: is the setup zone for the return team. They need

814
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: at least.

815
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: Nine players in that five yard setup zone, which for

816
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 3: the NFL is gonna be between the thirty and the

817
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: thirty five yard line. So they need nine guys in

818
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: that setup zone, but they don't all have to be

819
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 3: standing on the thirty five. Some of them can be

820
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 3: off that line as long as they're inside in between

821
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: the thirty and the thirty five. So I'm wondering if

822
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 3: there could be a strategy employed where you stack a

823
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 3: formation in such a way knowing five, you know, you

824
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: can have as many guys off that line as you want,

825
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: and maybe only half your guys are engaging people right

826
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 3: at the thirty five, and then you pull a bunch

827
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: of players around to one side to get out there

828
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 3: and block for a guy on a right return, for example.

829
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: I think one of the things too is you'll have

830
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: you know, you have four guys on each side of

831
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: the kicking the receiving team, you can have him spread

832
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: across and then when the ball's kicked, particularly if they

833
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: see it kick down the middle between the numbers, Like

834
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: we said, talked about four guys on this side, cross

835
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: over the four guys on that side, and you kick

836
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: everybody out towards the sidelines and the ego right up

837
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: through the pipe. All of that's in. You can trap

838
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: block guys, you can do all of that. You can't

839
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: double team because that's still in effect, but you can

840
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: take angles and do a lot of stuff with the

841
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: who you pick up. As a blocker and as a

842
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: coverage guy. You're down there, you're kind of trying to

843
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: focus on the guy catching the ball, what he's going

844
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: to do, what he looks like, where he's headed, which

845
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: direction he's face.

846
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 3: So you can focus on him pretty easily because you

847
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 3: can't move until he catches it.

848
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: Right, but when you're running down there, after he catches it,

849
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: which directions he running, And then all of a sudden,

850
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: a guy from like not the guy in front of you,

851
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: but a guy from someplace else comes and ear holds you.

852
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: Then you're on you. You're watching the play from your back.

853
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: So no peel but peel but peel back blocks are

854
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 3: still prohibited.

855
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: But Steve's talking about something different.

856
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm talking about crossing block. You know, when you

857
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: come from one from the other side, of the field

858
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: across and knock the guy over go in the same direction.

859
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: So that's all. There's a lot of possibilities. And we

860
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: just showed a highlight on our on our show from

861
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: an XFL game that it's gonna be fun to watch.

862
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to watch. I know this though. Uh, Speed,

863
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: is and misdirection are gonna be crucial in this whole thing.

864
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: If you've got a team that can make the other

865
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: team think you're going one way and you don't, you

866
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: got a chance. You know it's it's gonna be fun.

867
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 4: Uh.

868
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Speaker 1: And it's gonna let for the first time in a

869
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: long time, let special teams coaches be a little bit

870
00:43:58,760 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: more creative.

871
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: We got to take a break here, but when we

872
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: come back, we'll lead off with Mark and West Seneca.

873
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 3: We have some open lines for you at eight oh three,

874
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 3: oh five fifty one eight eight five fifty two five

875
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Speaker 3: fifty Which NFL rule or change made by the league

876
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: are you most intrigued by? Choices are there on the

877
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 3: Twitter poll at one Bill's Live Back with your phone

878
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Speaker 3: calls next, stay tuned all right back here on one

879
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Speaker 3: Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you which NFL

880
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: rule or change made by the NFL. Are you most

881
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: intrigued by kickoffs, Christmas Day, double header, hip drop tackle,

882
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 3: ban or replay for the game clock. I apologize I

883
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 3: did state that incorrectly. I was talking about the play clock.

884
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: It's the game clock, which essentially means you're only gonna

885
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 3: review that twice a game. At the most end of half,

886
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: end of game.

887
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 2: I'd prefer the play clock.

888
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I thought they meant. I was talking like, yeah,

889
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: that makes a lot because we see the game delay

890
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: of game penalties that are never called. That's not what

891
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:09,959
Speaker 1: they're talking about. That's dumb. That's dumb. Nobody cares about

892
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: the game clock at the end of the half. That

893
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: happens like once every month in the NFL. We're a

894
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: game clock where you think it's gonna be closing, getting

895
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: the playoff, like spiking the ball to stop the clock.

896
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: Come on, Yeah, nobody cares.

897
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: That seems a little over zealous.

898
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: It's dumb. I'm disappointed now.

899
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: I'm disappointed.

900
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed.

901
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: I want to remember it, not intrigued by it.

902
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: So take that off the poll right now, Harris disappointed.

903
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phone. To Mark and what's up, Mark.

904
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 10: Oh, it is Steve dumb dumb dumb, dumb dumb.

905
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: That's right, that's me, man.

906
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,959
Speaker 10: It makes no sense. They need to let the fans

907
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 10: get involved in the rules. That would be interesting. Yeah,

908
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 10: I'm sorry. A couple two three things that you're talking about.

909
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 10: The kickoff thing, I think is very interesting. I think

910
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 10: it's gonna u That line of demarcation is gonna start

911
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 10: looking like a line of scrimmage, and you're gonna start

912
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 10: putting guys out there. I think you've alluded to this, Steve,

913
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 10: Guys who can get off blocks and defend a run

914
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 10: even though the run is starting further back than any

915
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 10: typical regular play run. So I think that's what you're

916
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 10: gonna start seeing. As far as the kicking teams, what

917
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 10: they're gonna put out there as opposed to guys who

918
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 10: can run and take proper angles in space when they're

919
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 10: trying to get to a ball carrier, whether it's to

920
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 10: get by a block or just run past itself. I

921
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 10: think that's what's gonna happen. As far as the on

922
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 10: side kick, I understand no more on sidekick surprise because

923
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 10: of the kickoff rule, but I really dislike the fact

924
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 10: that they've put some constraints on when you can choose

925
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 10: to try an on sidekick. I don't like when the

926
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 10: rules dictate what plays you can run at what point

927
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 10: in the game, regardless if it's the you know, the

928
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 10: new six guys on one side on the kickoff, or

929
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 10: they'd end up going to the fourth and fifteen or

930
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 10: twenty or whatever. You should if you want to hold

931
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 10: onto the ball, you should have the opportunity to hold

932
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 10: on to the ball. I don't get why they need

933
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 10: to restrict that. That makes most sense to me, whatsoever, whatsoever.

934
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 10: But what what I really called about is something that

935
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 10: nobody ever talks about in the NFL and has dropped

936
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 10: for fifty years. And that's the two minute warning unless

937
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 10: when a team is out of timeouts and then we

938
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 10: watch the kneel down that absolutely dry high watch hockey

939
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 10: they play at the end, they pulled the goalie. It's

940
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 10: all hell out there. Basketball, they keep playing to the

941
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 10: end of the game. Baseball, they don't have some kind

942
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 10: of crazy rule that if you're up by three runs

943
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 10: or whatever, you don't have to pitch the last three outs.

944
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 10: I mean, you play to the end of the game.

945
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 10: I believe that they should, and I know this would

946
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 10: have to be vetted, don't get me wrong, but the

947
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 10: team that has the ball, if the other team has

948
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 10: no timeoutslept, they should have to try to advance the

949
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 10: ball past the line of scrimmage. No running to the left,

950
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 10: running to the right, falling down, no running around back

951
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 10: there to just draw the clock out. They need to

952
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 10: run NFL plays. They need to hold on to the ball.

953
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 10: They're professionals. Turnovers during the game are just as bad

954
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 10: as they are in the end of a game, and

955
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 10: it should be exciting for the fans and the defense

956
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 10: if you're within one score, they should be benefiting from

957
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 10: the fact they kept the game close and have the

958
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 10: ability to try and get the ball back somehow. So

959
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 10: that absolutely in my mind. Now, you guys could tell

960
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 10: me I'm wrong to discuss it, but that kneel down

961
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 10: just drives me crazy. Thanks, guys.

962
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: I think you make a valid point, Mark, and I

963
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: think you've called this and talked about this in the past.

964
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 2: I hate the Neil down.

965
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, because and he's right, it's the only sports that

966
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 3: ends prematurely because you could just take a knee fair point.

967
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, and I don't think it's so simple as

968
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: to say, hey, you gotta do this, gotta do that,

969
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: because yeah, it's a hard problem because the reason the

970
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: kneel down came into existence is exactly what he said.

971
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: The miracle in the Meadowlands is exactly why they came

972
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: up with.

973
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 8: It.

974
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: Used to be illegal to kneel down. And you got

975
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: a team like the Giants that can't execute a simple handoff. Yeah,

976
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: they doink it and Herm Edwards is in the end

977
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: zone and he wins. So that's that's why they instituted

978
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: the kneel down. So keep that from happening. But I'm

979
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: kind of with you. We're kind of past that kind

980
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: of place in history now. It's like, if you're gonna

981
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: if you're gonna end the game, let's see you do it.

982
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how you legislate it, though, because you

983
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: can't really constrict the office for what they're doing. Because

984
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: if they got to hang on to it, we'll let

985
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: them hang on to it. But you can't say you

986
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: have to gain yardage or you have to even run

987
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: a because you.

988
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 3: Don't have to play sixty minutes anymore. You got to

989
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 3: play fifty eight to twenty. That's all you gotta play.

990
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 4: Well.

991
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: If the other team is out of time and during

992
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: that fifty eight to twenty, you got to get them

993
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: to use all their timeouts. Well that's a big ask. Yeah,

994
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: But here's the thing too. You know that the team

995
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: that is kneeling down gets the benefit of their play,

996
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: you know, so that's their reward. They're under the same

997
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: clock that other team is. But I get it if

998
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: they're if they're mad, not mad, let's you know, just

999
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: if they're unhappy with the kickoff because it was ceremonial

1000
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: last year. You know, they're getting like one return a

1001
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: game and it's largely it's like the old extra point.

1002
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: It's just like a go through. Okay, you get a point,

1003
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Why would they be happy with

1004
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: three kneel downs at the end of a game, right,

1005
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: So it's a great point. It deserves to be discussed.

1006
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 1: But man, oh man, I don't have to find a fix.

1007
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how you find a fix for that.

1008
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: I really don't.

1009
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: I really saying you have to prove you're trying to

1010
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 3: advance the ball. Well, you can run at the line

1011
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: and say, hey, we're trying, but.

1012
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: Quarter trying you're a quarterback sneaks, you know.

1013
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: And then you know, then the league comes in and says, well,

1014
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 3: why are we gonna get unnecessary hits on a quarterback

1015
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 3: trying to sneak a ball just because they have to

1016
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 3: go forward?

1017
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 2: And then safety is gonna come in again, and yeah.

1018
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: We're you gonna do you. Nobody breaks an angle or

1019
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: blows a knee kneeling down. That's one thing that the

1020
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: players will tell you.

1021
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: And I know there are probably baseball people out there saying, well,

1022
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 3: there's no bottom of the ninth for baseball games. Well,

1023
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 3: that's a little different because you don't play offense and

1024
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 3: defense at the same You know, one team does not

1025
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 3: play offense and defense at the same time.

1026
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: They've already played defense.

1027
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 3: They have a lead, so if you want them to

1028
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 3: add to their lead, I guess you can give them

1029
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: the opportunity to do that. But they're not losing the game.

1030
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 3: Once you get to the bottom of the ninth, they can't, right,

1031
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 3: they can't, so save.

1032
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: Everybody the time.

1033
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: The baseball doesn't have a clock either, right, So yeah,

1034
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: it's whatever.

1035
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: It's a little different.

1036
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: It is different, but it's it deserves a discussion. I don't.

1037
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen every game. Remember, it doesn't happen every game.

1038
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: Right, Gotta take a break here, but our number two

1039
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 3: is wide open for your phone calls. Jerry and north Tonawanda, Glenna,

1040
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 3: New Fan, Adam and Silver Creek Bob in South Carolina.

1041
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 3: Hang tight, we do have time for you when we

1042
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 3: come back. Here On One Bill's Live presented by co

1043
00:52:28,040 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 3: Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1044
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

1045
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: Hour number two Here on a Tuesday, Chris Brown Steve

1046
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 3: Tasker with you. Which NFL rule or change made by

1047
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 3: the league are you most intrigued by? Poll is up

1048
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 3: at One Bill's Live on Twitter X or whatever you

1049
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 3: call it now. Choices are kickoffs, Christmas Day double header

1050
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: on a Wednesday, hip drop, tackle band or replay for

1051
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 3: the game clock. And people aren't bothered by the Christmas

1052
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: Day double header even though it's a Wednesday. Maybe they

1053
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 3: didn't realize Christmas was.

1054
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 2: Wednesday, middle of the week.

1055
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, But far and away is the new kickoff, which

1056
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 3: I think is visibly is going to be most noticeably

1057
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 3: different of anything.

1058
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: It's going to be a real play now, even though

1059
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: it's going to look completely different. Right, you could see

1060
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 1: it coming when I was in that room four years

1061
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: ago or whatever, however long it was five years ago

1062
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: when they changed it to a standing start kickoff and

1063
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: and restricted the line us the line alignment guidelines.

1064
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: Balance line.

1065
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: You could see it was they were going to keep it.

1066
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: And now because they've continued to tinker with it, and

1067
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: now this is going to be something vastly different. They're

1068
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: going to keep it in the game, and they're going

1069
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: to keep it a live play. And actually now it's

1070
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: back as as something could actually happen in this in

1071
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: this iteration of it.

1072
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 3: Eight oh three oh five fifty the number to get

1073
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 3: on board one eight eight eight.

1074
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: Five fifty two five fifty.

1075
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 3: But let's get to the phones and leading us off

1076
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 3: in this segment Jerry and north Tonawanda, what's up, Jerry?

1077
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 9: Ah Right, Chris and Steve. I'm calling to express my

1078
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 9: disappointment about having football games on Christmas Day. You know,

1079
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 9: it's a it's one of the most most important religious holidays,

1080
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 9: and it's a time that we should be spending with

1081
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 9: our families and to have football games is a bit

1082
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 9: of a distraction. You know, normally, if if Christmas were

1083
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 9: to occur on a Saturday or Sunday, so you know,

1084
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 9: we we would we would understand that, but to go

1085
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 9: out of their way to schedule a game on a

1086
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 9: holiday like that, it just it just does not seem

1087
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 9: right to me.

1088
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get, I get where you're coming from, Jerry,

1089
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 3: And I'll just say this, I think the league is

1090
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 3: taking advantage because what do they know. They know everybody's

1091
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 3: home with family for the most part on Christmas, so

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00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: they're taking advantage of people being in their homes and

1093
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 3: likely turning on their television sets. So your ratings could

1094
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 3: be gigantic. That benefits their television and partners, so they

1095
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 3: cater to them who are paying the billions of dollars

1096
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 3: to air football games. And yeah, I mean, I get

1097
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 3: what you're saying, especially smack dab in the middle of

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00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 3: the week.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough on families once.

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00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: Once you start to compromise and do other things on Christmas,

1101
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: then you know, open the door because I know this

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00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: movie theaters are crushed on Christmas Night. Usually they get

1103
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: a big influx of people. So it's it's people are

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00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: waiting for something to do with their families. You knew

1105
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: this was gonna when when the numbers came out last

1106
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 1: year and that and there was a niche market there

1107
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: on that holiday. All of a sudden, it got to

1108
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: the point where if it wasn't the NFL, the NBA

1109
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: would be.

1110
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 3: Well, the NBA has played on Christmas Day for decades, decades.

1111
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 3: They always it's a triple header on Christmas Day for

1112
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: the NBA. Always has been. I mean from the time

1113
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 3: I was like a teenager, right, they've been playing on

1114
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 3: Christmas Day. I mean time and time and time again.

1115
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan was playing on Christmas Day, you know.

1116
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: So, so it's it's part of the landscape in the

1117
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: United I agree with you, though, Gary, There's no two

1118
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: ways about it. It is a it's a it's a money grab.

1119
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: Call it what you want, compromise all of those things,

1120
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: but it's it's the current state of business. Uh, not

1121
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: only in our country, but uh probably around the world.

1122
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: So I'm yeah, you don't have to like it. You

1123
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: don't have to like it, and I appreciate you can

1124
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: call it any time and and voice your displeasure, but uh,

1125
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: it is a reality, and it's it's not going away.

1126
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: Sports on holidays is not going away.

1127
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 2: Let's go to Glenn in Newfane next. What's up Glenn?

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00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 4: Hey, how are we doing there?

1129
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: Guys?

1130
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 4: Well, so many things. I hate it one I'm on

1131
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 4: hold and all of a sudden, the all of these

1132
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 4: things are going on with the call that all of

1133
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 4: a sudden, I've got my poor brain is trying to remember.

1134
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 4: I'll try to make it quick. First of all the

1135
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 4: games on Christmas. That's ridiculous, Just another thing I need

1136
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 4: to be arguing about with my family during a stressful time.

1137
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 4: I've become I'm so into the bills now that I'm

1138
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 4: like almost obsessed, and I you know, they don't like

1139
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 4: seeing me like that. It's just not a good version

1140
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 4: of me. But the other thing is that on the

1141
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 4: kneel down when I'm at the game and wore up

1142
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 4: and Josh is kneeling down, that's a reward for four

1143
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 4: hard fought quarters that might have gone you know, it

1144
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 4: might you know, you might get scored on a couple

1145
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 4: of times, and we're going, oh no, how can we

1146
00:58:55,120 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 4: lose it home? And it's a reward just seeing Josh

1147
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 4: kneeling down. I understand people watching it as a TV show.

1148
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 4: It's not a TV show that might be it boring

1149
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 4: to you on your couch, but when you're there and

1150
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 4: we're high fiving and it's, you know, a celebration. It's

1151
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 4: kind of like in racing a cool down lap, to

1152
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 4: be able to look around, catch your breath, you maybe

1153
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 4: talk to the if you're close enough to the sideline,

1154
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 4: you know you're you're you know, yelling hey right onto

1155
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 4: the to the players, it's it's definitely a reward for

1156
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 4: you know, a hard fought game. But my thing on

1157
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 4: the rules the when I saw the video this week

1158
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 4: of some of these hip drops where the defender is

1159
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 4: wrapping up the ball carrier's arms so they can't even

1160
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 4: catch themselves going to the ground, and then on top

1161
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 4: of that falling onto their legs, their ankle, their knee,

1162
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 4: it just looks so much like an intent to injure them.

1163
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 4: I haven't seen anything like that since Gronk tried to

1164
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 4: sever Tredavius's spine over on the sideline with his elbow.

1165
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 4: When he jumped his entire body weight out of the

1166
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 4: back of Tredavius, putting his elbow into him. That was vicious.

1167
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 4: I will never forget that, and I'll never forget some

1168
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 4: of these hip drop tackles that I've seen, just obviously,

1169
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 4: it's not trying to tackle the guy. I love a

1170
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 4: good tackle, and I understand the defense. They're adding a

1171
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 4: lot of rules, you know, I can't believe that the

1172
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 4: players Union would be against this when you see these videos,

1173
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 4: it's like vicious. But anyway, Yeah, that's like a hundred things.

1174
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 4: Sorry about that, Thank you guys, great show.

1175
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 3: Thanks Glenn, appreciate the input there. Yeah, the hip drop,

1176
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 3: it's what it deals with. Primarily in terms of how

1177
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: it's going to be identified, is if a player wraps

1178
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 3: up a ball carrier from behind, runs alongside them, and

1179
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 3: then drags them to the ground while their feet are

1180
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 3: still moving as well, that's probably not going to be called.

1181
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 3: What is going to be called is when the tackler

1182
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 3: leaves his feet and uses his body's weight to bring

1183
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 3: the tackler to the ground and then uses his legs

1184
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 3: to collapse on top of the lower body of the

1185
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 3: ball carrier, thereby increasing the rate of injury that's going

1186
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 3: to be drawn.

1187
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: When you deliberately throw your body into when you grab

1188
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: the guy high and drop low on his legs, that's

1189
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: the hip drop, and it's different than tackling the guy

1190
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: from behind, just diving and wrapping up both his legs

1191
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: and pulling them down from behind. That's different. It's certainly

1192
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: going to be a difficult thing to get used to

1193
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:01,439
Speaker 1: and judged by, and defenders are gonna have to learn

1194
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: not to do it because it's you know, you're trying

1195
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: to get the guy's feet out from under him. The

1196
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: problem is this, defenders have already been limited so much

1197
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: in what they're allowed to do. It used to be,

1198
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, it was big hits. You knock the guy,

1199
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 1: and you knock the guy off his feet by getting

1200
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: him off balance because of a big impact blow either

1201
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: down at his knees or below or at his head

1202
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: and shoulders. It's easier to knock him off balance, knock

1203
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: him off balance if you hit him at one end

1204
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: or the other, because it's the better leverage. Well, now

1205
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: you can't do that at the top of him. And

1206
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: if you go at the bottom of him, now you're

1207
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: start and seeing like guys like Josh Allen just jump

1208
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: over guys. Now that's become a thing. So and the

1209
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: athletes are so good and so big that if you

1210
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: come in and trying to hit him in the middle

1211
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: and knock him off their feet. You get injured because

1212
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: it's like trying to strike, trying to tackle an oak

1213
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: tree and ain't moving. So the defenders are limited so

1214
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: much in what they do. And I and I see,

1215
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't kid yourself. We get as many calls about

1216
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: people call in our show going these guys don't know

1217
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: how to tackle. They don't well, hey, they ain't allowed

1218
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: to tackle, you know now, And this is further proof

1219
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: of that. You've got to there are certain things you

1220
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: cannot do to get a guy on the ground. So

1221
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna further hamper It's just one less thing that's

1222
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: gonna one less thing that is gonna be against the offense,

1223
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: one less thing that the defense has at its disposal

1224
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: to stop a guy running the football. And it's gonna

1225
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: be difficult to learn. Maybe, uh. They already have to

1226
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: relearn tackling every single year because they don't get to

1227
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: practice it. They don't get to practice full pads, they

1228
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: don't get to tackle. They don't do tackling drills on

1229
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: live people. They do it on donuts, giant rolling donuts

1230
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: or moving tackle. They got those robot tackle right, you know,

1231
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: they kind of make do trying to learn how to tackle.

1232
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: There's nothing with two big fat legs flopping back and

1233
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: forth running to.

1234
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 3: You.

1235
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: Kind of you kind of got to take a you know,

1236
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: deep breath and clench your teeth to take a guy on.

1237
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I've done it. It's it's I don't care

1238
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: how big the guy is. It's like, okay, here we go.

1239
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: You know, you kind of gird your loins, you know,

1240
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, here we go. Now, that's kind of

1241
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: you got to take the guy on full front and

1242
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: get him down. And it hurts.

1243
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: Man.

1244
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: That's what you're asking defenders to do, and that's why

1245
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: they got some pushback from the players Union. You're gonna

1246
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 1: get defenders start getting hurt tackling guys because of the

1247
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: limited way in which they have to approach the guy.

1248
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 3: All right, back to the phones, we go into Adam

1249
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 3: and Silver Creek got open lines for you though.

1250
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 2: At eight oh three five point fifteen. Let me pull

1251
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 2: him up here. What you got for his Adam, Hey.

1252
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 11: Guys, how we're doing today? Thanks for taking my call

1253
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 11: in terms of just your question overall. You know, I

1254
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 11: don't know about you, guys, but I can't wait to

1255
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 11: hear uh Gene's territory on on the on the broadcasts more,

1256
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 11: you know, trying to explain to us about all these rules.

1257
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 11: I mean, this is you know, it's it's getting to

1258
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 11: the point where you know, it's just it's it's slowing

1259
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 11: the game down so much, I think, you know, especially

1260
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 11: with you know, you're talking about reviewing, you know, the

1261
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 11: clocks now, and it's something that just I guess we're

1262
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 11: just gonna have to deal with modern football. But the

1263
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 11: one thing that did concern me a lot more than

1264
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 11: any of the rule changes out of the last few

1265
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 11: days was just the lack of clarity from Sean McDermott

1266
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 11: about what's going to be going on with the defensive

1267
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 11: play Holland this year. And you know, I understand that

1268
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 11: there's a lot of time left in the offseason, but

1269
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 11: there are a ton of new faces on just the

1270
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 11: defensive coaching staff as well as in the defense. You know,

1271
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 11: we're gonna have a branding secondary basically for the most part,

1272
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 11: and I don't understand, quite frankly, what the hesitation is

1273
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 11: with you know, deciding what's going to be going on

1274
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 11: with this and getting the ball rolling and getting everybody

1275
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 11: acclimated to all the changes.

1276
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: Right, I have a theory on this and I do too,

1277
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: And it's a good question. Adam, You're right. And here's

1278
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: here's what I think is is where they're at. Brownie

1279
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: plays his own thoughts about it as well. Here Sean mcdermy.

1280
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: They may not know. They literally may not know who

1281
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: they want. Sean may not know who he wants to

1282
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: call plays, whether he wants to do it, or whether

1283
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: he wants Bobby Babbage to do it. And but I'll

1284
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: say this, the conversations now are about how they're going

1285
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: to decide who's call and plays. Bobby Babbage is going

1286
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: to get his chance to do it in the preseason

1287
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: and in practice, and they're gonna have meetings about why

1288
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: do you call this what? They'll go down games and

1289
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: they'll say, here's what we know, here's where I call

1290
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: this defense, Here's what we did, Here's what happened, Here's

1291
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: here's my thought process. And Babbage will give Sean what

1292
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: he thinks. He says, I would I want to call

1293
01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: this defense because of this and this and this and this.

1294
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: They'll have tons of conversations about that, and Sean will

1295
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: decide if he can trust Bob Babbage more than he

1296
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: trusts himself, or enough so that he doesn't have to

1297
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: worry about Bob Babbage. Sean is responsible for how that

1298
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Speaker 1: defense goes, and the defense played had a lot of

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Speaker 1: splash plays last year, a lot more than they did

1300
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Speaker 1: under Leslie Fraser. Statistically, they weren't ranked as high, but

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Speaker 1: they I think won games last year with their defense

1302
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: where they didn't in years past. They gave their offense

1303
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: a chance to win games defensively. So I think while

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01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: they have not, they probably have not. I think Sean's

1305
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 1: being genuine. He has not decided who's gonna call defensive plays,

1306
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: but they are probably deciding how they're going to find

1307
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: out who's gonna call, because they're gonna get the best guy,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be either him or Bob Babbage.

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Speaker 2: Here is my theory.

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Speaker 3: Every decision that Sean McDermott has made as head coach

1311
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 3: of this football team has been painstaking, lee thorough, and

1312
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 3: based on evidence and information. What information does he have

1313
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 3: to go on that Bobby Babbage can handle calling this

1314
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Speaker 3: defense on Sundays or game days. I don't think he

1315
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 3: feels he has enough evidence. I think he feels that

1316
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 3: Bobby Babbage is deserving of the promotion to defensive coordinator

1317
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 3: because of the coach that he has been for Sean

1318
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 3: McDermott the better part of the last seven years. But

1319
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 3: what evidence does he have that Bobby Babbage is capable

1320
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 3: of being a defensive play caller in the NFL on

1321
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 3: game days. He does not have any evidence none. So

1322
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 3: in an effort to help convince him that Bobby Babbage

1323
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 3: can handle that job, He's going to give him call

1324
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 3: it periods in the practice setting OTAs mini camp, and

1325
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 3: he will use how Babbage handles those calls and sessions,

1326
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 3: review them on tape, sit down presumably with Babbage, and say,

1327
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 3: to Steve's point, Hey, what were you thinking on this

1328
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 3: down and distance?

1329
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: Here?

1330
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 3: Let me know what your what were your choices here?

1331
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 3: What did you come down to? What were your final

1332
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 3: two choices before you made that call? And why did

1333
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 3: you make that call? And He's going to evaluate Bobby

1334
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 3: Babbage through the course of the spring and maybe even

1335
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 3: into training camp in the preseason, and if he feels

1336
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 3: comfortable that Babbage has proven to him he's going to

1337
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 3: make the right call ninety eight percent of the time,

1338
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 3: well then he'll call plays. But Sean McDermott does not

1339
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 3: make premature decisions in anything that he does if he

1340
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 3: does not feel he has all the evidence he needs

1341
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 3: to make the best decision he can make for the

1342
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 3: football team. So he's going to use all the allotted

1343
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 3: time between now and the time he feels comfortable making

1344
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 3: that decision to make the best call.

1345
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they keep his people guessing

1346
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: up until the gain.

1347
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 3: And he's not doing it to deceive people. He's doing

1348
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 3: it to make the best decision for the football team.

1349
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to make the best decision for the

1350
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 1: ball team. But he doesn't care if anybody else knows

1351
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: about it, and he probably he probably won't. He won't

1352
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: go out of his way to let people find out.

1353
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: He'll keep you guessing all the way up until the end.

1354
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: But Brownie's right. Even back when they first hired him

1355
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean came on board and they started having

1356
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: these decisions like when are they going to decide to

1357
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: do you know, franchise tag or transition tags, or when

1358
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 1: are they going to cut this guy or release this guy?

1359
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: They weigh every decision that we knew they had to make.

1360
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: Went all the way to the deadline. Every single one

1361
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: of them. Every decision they made went all the way

1362
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: till the deadline, even if they knew or if they

1363
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: if they did, and so this is not going to

1364
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: be any different.

1365
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he subscribes to he doesn't want anybody to know.

1366
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 1: He wants probably wants the guys in the division, the

1367
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: teams in the division, to think Bob Babbitt is gonna

1368
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: do it, whether he's going to do it or not,

1369
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: because they don't know. If they know Sean's going to

1370
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: call defenses, they'll watch last year's film and they'll get

1371
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: a heads up. So he not gonna tell anybody.

1372
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a little games and ship involved, but

1373
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 3: I think the main issue here is Sean McDermott wants

1374
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 3: information to help him make the best decision, and that

1375
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 3: information can only come by letting Bobby Babbage call plays

1376
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 3: through OTA's in mini camp and maybe even training camp

1377
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 3: in the preseason to get a handle on what he

1378
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 3: is and is not capable of and if he measures

1379
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 3: up to what Sean McDermott expects the standard the defensive

1380
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 3: play caller to be. And I think he'll take his

1381
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 3: time until he feels good about making what he feels

1382
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 3: is the right decision.

1383
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: Let's go to Ryan in Toronto next. What do you

1384
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: got for us? Ryan?

1385
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, I have a couple of questions for you guys.

1386
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 12: Maybe it's two Steams in the back in the names

1387
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 12: in the nineties as well, ste was playing. Was he

1388
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 12: a safety committee? Secondly, one of the numbers when it

1389
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 12: comes injury his base back then Wills is now? I mean,

1390
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 12: is it greater than going back then? Or is the

1391
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 12: same numbers? And I don't know if he has but

1392
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 12: I mean as I wanted football, and when they have football,

1393
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 12: the intel is two helmets cash into each other. That's

1394
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 12: ESPN Monday football intoal and that is what we had now.

1395
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 12: It is when we hate thoughts.

1396
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're thinking, well, let's face it.

1397
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: The physicality of the game is one of its major

1398
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,839
Speaker 1: selling points for fans. They you know, it's it's chaos.

1399
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: And when you like I've done, I mean you stand

1400
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: down the sidelines for an NFL game, it's stunning the

1401
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: size and speed and the collisions of these guys, even

1402
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: though they're restricted. In the nineteen nineties, there was no

1403
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: player safety commission or committee. It was it was not

1404
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: done until now a generation and a half or two

1405
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 1: generations later, where we've got older guys who are seeing

1406
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: the effects of the game, effects of the game. And

1407
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, it's not the orthopedic effects. Those

1408
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: have been evident, self evident since the nineteen seventies of

1409
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: guys in the sixties and fifties and sixties coming back

1410
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: and they all got new hips, they all got new

1411
01:12:55,400 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: knees and all that. The orthopedic issues were never even

1412
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was a shoulder shrug by everybody,

1413
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 1: the players and the coaches and the and the league itself.

1414
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: But when it started to become cognitive issues with concussions

1415
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: and the correlation between you know, how many concussions you get,

1416
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: how severe they are, how fast you come back, and

1417
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: how you know, and and long term effects later in

1418
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 1: life where your your ability to think is compromised greatly

1419
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: for some guys, then it became like, hey, that it

1420
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: crossed some line for the league, for the players union,

1421
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 1: and for the public at large too, I think. So

1422
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: they wanted to see some things done so these guys

1423
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't be in that kind of predicament. And that's what

1424
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: really turned the tide. Towards player safety. Was the cognitive

1425
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: issues later in life for these guys and CTE, and

1426
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: you had some prominent players take their own life and

1427
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: it was purported to be with they had CTE. That

1428
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: link was, you know, was made at least tacitly by

1429
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: just everyday fans, and the league didn't want that, and

1430
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: neither do the players union. So now they have begun

1431
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: to do things, and they attacked the kickoff first, because

1432
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: concussions were happening on kickoff coverage and kickoff return at

1433
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: an alarming rate back in the eighties and nineties, in

1434
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: early two thousands, because there were you had players running

1435
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: in opposite directions from a long way away. These all

1436
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,839
Speaker 1: these guys that run, these four four four, five forties

1437
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: from a long way away, running towards each other, and

1438
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 1: they weren't trying to avoid each other. They were crashing

1439
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: into each other. And it's crazy now to say it

1440
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,759
Speaker 1: like that, but it's it's true. And guys were getting

1441
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: they were getting concussions every game. So that's what really

1442
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: turned the corner was the cognitive issues later in life

1443
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: and the concussion issue that really brought it bubbled it

1444
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 1: to the surface. And now the league, to its credit,

1445
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: has taken big steps towards safening it. And this will

1446
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: this kickoff alignment thing will bring the kickoff and kick

1447
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: off return more into line with a regular scrimmage down

1448
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 1: for the severity and frequency of concussion. So that's where

1449
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: it all comes from, and that's where it stems to.

1450
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: And you're but you're right. The ESPN and the TV

1451
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: and Sports Center, they're always going to show you the

1452
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,799
Speaker 1: big hits. They're always going to show you because that's

1453
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 1: the it's the compelling part about the game.

1454
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 3: Gotta take a break here, but Aaron, Oregon, Mark and

1455
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 3: Stockton will get to you too when we return. As

1456
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 3: we're talking about which NFL overall change or rule change

1457
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 3: is most intriguing to you and why more of your

1458
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 3: phone calls next here on One Bill's Live.

1459
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 2: Stay with us. Here we are on One Bill's Live

1460
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 2: on Tuesday. Got about a half hour to go.

1461
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 3: Want to get right back to the phones at eight

1462
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 3: o three oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty

1463
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 3: two five fifty.

1464
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: You got a couple open lines for you, so hop

1465
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 2: on and join us.

1466
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 3: Let us know what NFL rule change or overall change

1467
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 3: made by the league intrigues you the most. Obviously the

1468
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 3: kickoffs got in the most support, but there are other

1469
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 3: things afoot.

1470
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 2: So let us know. At eight o three five fifty

1471
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 2: to Aaron in Oregon, we go, what's up Aeron?

1472
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 6: Oh hey, guys, I have a on topic comment, And

1473
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 6: then I want to talk a little bit about the draft.

1474
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 6: But sure, the real change I really like is the

1475
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 6: kickoffs have been getting really bored with the kick it

1476
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 6: out of the Indian zone, and you know, ninety percent

1477
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 6: of the kicks don't get returned, So so I like special teams.

1478
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 6: That's why Steve's my favorite player. And so so I

1479
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 6: just am intrigued by the new strategy and seeing how

1480
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 6: this all plays out. So that's that's the on topic,

1481
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 6: and then off topic, I wanted to talk about and

1482
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 6: ask you Chris who you saw him maybe at the

1483
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 6: combine as a big power back that we could target

1484
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 6: with us plugging a lot of the holes. I see

1485
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 6: power back as kind of a need. You know, I

1486
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 6: was kind of hoping we'd resign Damien Harris, but he retired,

1487
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,759
Speaker 6: so so I'm thinking maybe this guy Brayln Allen or

1488
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 6: this guy Carson Steel, but I didn't see him, so

1489
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 6: I want a little insight on that and see what

1490
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 6: you guys think.

1491
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, unfortunately we left the combine before the

1492
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 3: running backs tested. One of the powerbacks I liked was

1493
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 3: Estimate from Notre Dame. I was kind of hoping he

1494
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 3: would run a little better, but now I'm thinking because

1495
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 3: he didn't.

1496
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 2: He ran in the mid to high four or fives.

1497
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 3: Because he didn't run as well as maybe some people expected,

1498
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if he slides into the fourth round where

1499
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 3: the Bills may get a look at him. But he's

1500
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 3: that Notre Dame kids who's pretty verse little player for

1501
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 3: a for an ice block of a build.

1502
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 4: Uh.

1503
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 2: I kind of liked his game watching him in college.

1504
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, though, I'm still working through the

1505
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 3: position groups and I've saved running back kind of to

1506
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 3: the latter half of my prep for the draft. I

1507
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 3: haven't really dove deep into them just yet.

1508
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: There's a kid from Wisconsin, Brayden Allen.

1509
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one he was mentioning.

1510
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, six one, two thirty five runs a four to

1511
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 1: four year, right, I mean, he's that's what you're looking at.

1512
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: And let's face it, if you want to get a

1513
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: running back. You're gonna take a running back. You're gonna

1514
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: take him like in the fourth, fifth, sixth round, or

1515
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,759
Speaker 1: you know, not certainly, not earlier than the third round.

1516
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: You want to get a guy with some traits as

1517
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 1: much as you can, and that's where you're gonna be.

1518
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: He's there's another guy, the kid from Georgia, Kenden Milton, Kendall, Milton. Yeah.

1519
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 2: I saw a lot of Milton six. He's okay, Yeah,

1520
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,440
Speaker 2: he's not He's not explosive.

1521
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 3: He's got a knee injury in his history, so that'll

1522
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 3: have to be vetted through the medical exams.

1523
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: Think about these guys, is too that for me? And

1524
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: what you're talking what you're talking about, Aaron, If you

1525
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 1: want to get a big power back, I mean you

1526
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, look down the list. Anybody over six foot twenty.

1527
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: It's a short list because most of these guys are

1528
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 1: the five ten to five eleven guys that are buck

1529
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 1: ninety two hundred and can scoot, you know, and run routes.

1530
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: There's not too many of the there's you know, Derrick

1531
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: Henry at getting in this draft. He's not here, you know,

1532
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: So you got to take what's there. And most of

1533
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: the guys are that kind of back like you know,

1534
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 1: the James Cook, Devin Singletary all of that. The two

1535
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: guys were talking about that. We spoke about, Yeah, there's

1536
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 1: some big dudes in there and they can run. But

1537
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 1: you know there's.

1538
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 3: Estimate they were hoping and running the four fives. He

1539
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 3: ran like a four to seven that night might not

1540
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 3: be good enough. I mean, you think about Ty Johnson

1541
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 3: on this roster, who is a power back and has

1542
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 3: some juice. I mean, I would imagine he's in the

1543
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 3: high four to fours, probably low four fives for speed.

1544
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: One guy.

1545
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 3: I am interested in looking at the kid from South

1546
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 3: Dakota State, Isaiah Davis. Six foot and he goes two

1547
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 3: eighteen and they clocked him at four or five seven.

1548
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,560
Speaker 3: South Dakota State had a great season this year and

1549
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,560
Speaker 3: he was a big reason for that. Haven't had a

1550
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 3: chance to turn his tape on yet, but I'm interested

1551
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 3: to see what he may have to offer. And you know,

1552
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 3: a guy from a smaller school may last, you know,

1553
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 3: until day three, and you know the Bills could get

1554
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 3: a crack at him where they have the bulk of

1555
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 3: their draft picks.

1556
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you got a guy like all the way

1557
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: down the draft from Colorado, uh six two hundred just

1558
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: under hens a four four to eight, you know, and

1559
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: he's he's got toughness, he's got all of that stuff.

1560
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: And he's known as a pass protector as well, so

1561
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: that gives you something there. So, yeah, there's some guys

1562
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,799
Speaker 1: with some skill sets in this draft, but we're talking

1563
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: but the most the third round. That's if you know,

1564
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 1: if the Bills like him as much as all of

1565
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: us seem to like whatever name you can pick from

1566
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: the list, you know, and that's that's iffy. I think

1567
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,600
Speaker 1: you're talking about getting down into Let me just revisit

1568
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 1: this now, the twentieth, the twenty eighth, the sixtieth, twenty

1569
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 1: eight one. Yeah, it's like one. Oh, it's all the

1570
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 1: way down to one twenty one, twenty eight.

1571
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so in one three, Yeah, it's it's gonna be

1572
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 3: a long way.

1573
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: Might you could get one thirty three? I wouldn't be surprised.

1574
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 1: We'll see.

1575
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mark in Stockton next. What do you

1576
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 2: got first?

1577
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: Mark?

1578
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 13: Hi, guys love the show. I got an issue about

1579
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:55,640
Speaker 13: the slow sliding quarterbacks like dek Dak Prescott for that

1580
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 13: Bill's game. They wait till the last second to slide

1581
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 13: the feder cannot pull out of his head, and then

1582
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 13: they draw a flag and get some extra yardage. There.

1583
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 13: They should make a rule. Is there a couple of

1584
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 13: steps away? Call it ahead. Keep your laundry in your pocket.

1585
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 13: I want to hear your thoughts.

1586
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't like to see the quarter If the

1587
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 1: quarterback is going to break out and run to me,

1588
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: he's got to be ready. You got to be ready

1589
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 1: to play football. If they slide feet first, they've always

1590
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: gotten the protection. If they slide head first, they don't. Uh.

1591
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 1: That's that's the line of demarcation. And certainly when a

1592
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 1: guy you we've we've all seen it. You know this

1593
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 1: where the guy drops late, the defender has and that's

1594
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 1: just one more way the defenders are like, you know

1595
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: what he wants to do. Uh, it's hard to play

1596
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:50,759
Speaker 1: defense in the NFL. I wouldn't anticipate any changes because,

1597
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 1: to put it, put it bluntly, if you're a safety, cornerback, linebacker,

1598
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 1: or defensive lineman, let me just clear my throat and

1599
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: say this is with all the grace and love can

1600
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 1: I can muster. They don't care much about you as

1601
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 1: they do about a quarterback. I'm sorry, they just don't.

1602
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 5: Uh.

1603
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: Stars run the league and they're gonna get protected.

1604
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 3: Stars are the reason people watch. And as a Bills fan,

1605
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 3: you should probably understand that better than anybody.

1606
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bill. You've got the most compelling player in

1607
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: the league on your team, and.

1608
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 2: Players like that, You dives.

1609
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 1: Just think about what would happen if somebody gave your

1610
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 1: guy or you know, gave Josh cheap shot and then

1611
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 1: he doesn't play for it and he doesn't play for

1612
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: four games, yeah or whatever. They protect those guys certainly.

1613
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,879
Speaker 2: And the Bills cames off of You wouldn't see.

1614
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 1: Another You'd get scheduled out of it. That's that's the

1615
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: way it is. So they protect those guys. They go

1616
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: out of their way to do it. And as long

1617
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: as they do it for your guy, I think it's

1618
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 1: hard to complain about him doing it for somebody else,

1619
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: even if their guy isn't as good as your guy.

1620
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 2: Let's check in on the tweet sheet.

1621
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 3: Haven't cracked that open yet in terms of which NFL

1622
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 3: change intrigues you. The most Tweets sheet brought to you

1623
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 3: by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of

1624
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills, and we begin with Boz who says,

1625
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 3: easy to say the new kickoffs, but the replay for

1626
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 3: game clock really interests me. This mean refs will blow

1627
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 3: the whistle at zero. Now over the pass practice of

1628
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 3: seeing zero on the clock and then looking at the

1629
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 3: ball to see if it's moving. Yeah, we've often talked

1630
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 3: about that half beat before the ref.

1631
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 2: That's not what throws the flag.

1632
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: That's not what this is. Yeah, this is not the

1633
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 1: play clock. This is the game clocks.

1634
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 3: But they won't blow the whistle prematurely. They'll call it

1635
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 3: as they see it. If the replay assistant upstairs, if

1636
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 3: they see they have clearly missed that the clock expired

1637
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 3: before the snap, they will buzz down and adjudicated accordingly.

1638
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: That means you can sell what's happening. The officials are

1639
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 1: out there, they're running around trying to pick the ball

1640
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: up from a wide receiver who caught it rushing at

1641
01:24:58,800 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: the end of You're trying to get it to this

1642
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: to the hash mark to snap it or to spot

1643
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 1: it get out of the way so they can snap it.

1644
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: And they're you know, they're trying to get out of

1645
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: the way and making sure everybody's set and in a

1646
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 1: legal formation, you've got eleven and all that stuff, and

1647
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, oh, by the way, it's zero zero.

1648
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: They snapped it and spike it to stop the clock.

1649
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it was zero zero. You're done. Well, now

1650
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: you can replay that. This has nothing to do with

1651
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: the play clock when the guys are stretching it a

1652
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: half a second or a full second past zero on

1653
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: the gate on the play clock the game. This is

1654
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 1: talking about the end of the first half, into the

1655
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 1: game or overtime.

1656
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's still tied.

1657
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 3: Right, Edwards says, kickoffs, your kicker has to be really

1658
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 3: good all the time. He definitely can't get hurt during

1659
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 3: a game. Could put your team in a really bad position. Otherwise,

1660
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 3: that's an interesting point, because he's kicking it. Every time

1661
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 3: you can't.

1662
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 1: Kick or gets hurt, you're in a bad position no

1663
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 1: matter when it happened.

1664
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 3: But I think it's exacerbated by these new kickoff rules

1665
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 3: because you want to drop it in the landing zone

1666
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 3: at least every time on the fly.

1667
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 1: Come on, you're making kick off.

1668
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep it on the field.

1669
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 1: Though, I was the emergency kicker for the Bills, that's

1670
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 1: how that's how easy it is. Let mean, come on,

1671
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 1: and all you gotta do is and I'll say this.

1672
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 1: I'll say this, looking at it now in my old,

1673
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 1: decrepit physical body that I inhabit now, I don't know

1674
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 1: if I can get it to the twenty. Yeah, But

1675
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 1: when I was that age, yeah it would. It's a problem.

1676
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna give risk a return, but yeah,

1677
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna be all right. Yeah, field goals are still

1678
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 1: what a kicker.

1679
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 3: Is needed from a Before we go to break straight

1680
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 3: from the Grumpy Man files, Kenny says, just quit messing

1681
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 3: with the game, Kenny, Kenny, Kenny, it can't be that

1682
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:48,839
Speaker 3: grumpy at any kickoff.

1683
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, Kenny. Oh, I'll just point

1684
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: this out to you. The NFL is an eight hundred

1685
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: pound gorilla in the sports landscape of the planet, or

1686
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: at least in this country. For sure, it is the

1687
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: eight hundred pound gorilla. The reason it is the eight

1688
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: hundred pound gorilla, there's a there's a handful of reasons,

1689
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: but basically it's one, it's the size and speed and

1690
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,759
Speaker 1: the physicality of the game. Two is because Green Bay

1691
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: and New Orleans and Buffalo can play with New York,

1692
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 1: LA and Chicago because of the share revenues. And three,

1693
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 1: they tinker with the game. The holy grail for the

1694
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 1: NFL is not is not money so much as it

1695
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:33,759
Speaker 1: is fan interest. That's the holy grail. And they tinker

1696
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: with the game is not sacred. They tinker with the

1697
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 1: game to give you and me and Brownie and all

1698
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 1: of us more of what they do want and less

1699
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 1: of what they don't want. They tinker with the game

1700
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 1: every single year. This is like, we could put this

1701
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 1: on the calendar. We're gonna discuss the rules because they're

1702
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: gonna change every year. They do that so that the

1703
01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 1: game stays fresh all the time, and it evolves in

1704
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 1: a in a trajectory that goes with the fans and

1705
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: what they want to see. This in baseball, where you

1706
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 1: got an Act of Congress to have a different guy

1707
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: take an at bat, you know, it's not like you know,

1708
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 1: now they got a pitchclock and they got all this

1709
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 1: other stuff. It took. It's like forever. They haven't changed

1710
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 1: the rules in two hundred years of baseball. And that's

1711
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: why you can't watch it.

1712
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so, don't don't ask, don't pooh pooh it

1713
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 3: just yet, don't put a.

1714
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 1: Change something that is worked to perfection to this point.

1715
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 2: Break time for us. Steve and I wrap it up

1716
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 2: next day tuned here on one Bill's Live.

1717
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 3: All right. One final thought on the tweet sheet, Which

1718
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 3: NFL change intrigues you the most? Philip is hot, He says,

1719
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 3: I hate it all Wednesday Christmas game. Squeezing dollars from

1720
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 3: families kickoffs like in principle, but will lead to stupid

1721
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 3: fourth and twenty rule to replace onside kicks hip drop

1722
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 3: tackle band, give them flags in their belts, already use

1723
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 3: the technology and improve the game. I will tell you

1724
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 3: the fourth and twenty rule failed miserably because they don't

1725
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 3: want to give refs extra influence on the end of

1726
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 3: a game. They're worried that if they have a fourth

1727
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,680
Speaker 3: and twenty, somebody calls a defensive holding call. Now it's

1728
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 3: a first down automatic, and the ref influenced it. Part

1729
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 3: of the reason why I got shot down. That's interesting

1730
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 3: referee influence.

1731
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 2: I get at the end of the game.

1732
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: Nobody likes refs.

1733
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 2: That's that's universal. We'll see you tomorrow at what It's

1734
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 2: just me