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Speaker 1: had a lot of money on the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: who was rooting for the forty nine ers to win

430
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Speaker 1: this game. That sucked. And that was way worse, I think,

431
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Speaker 1: way worse than the previous Super Bowl loss against the

432
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Speaker 1: Chiefs because ultimately they scored twenty one unanswered Tyreek Hill

433
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Speaker 1: made the big play. That offense was historically great this team,

434
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Speaker 1: while they have an excellent defense, their offense was struggling

435
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Speaker 1: to score. And you have a million weapons, now, Deebo,

436
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: some of those weapons got some flaws. Debo not exactly

437
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: a great right runner, and the Chiefs knew it and

438
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 1: they neutralized him. Kittle, I don't really quite know what

439
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: happened there. Ayuk was fine, but I don't know, what

440
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: do you have three or four catches? And Christian McCaffrey,

441
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean, did everything he could. But ultimately, the offense

442
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: you need to score more points against the better defenses,

443
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Speaker 1: and we saw it twice this year against the Ravens,

444
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: who just kind of overwhelm them with the turnovers, and

445
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: clearly the Chiefs just gave the forty nine ers a

446
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Speaker 1: lot of trouble they just did on third downs against

447
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: blitz packages. Now the good thing they have going for him,

448
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: they have an eight hundred thousand dollars quarterback. Someone on

449
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: Twitter today, you know, the volume posts all these social clips,

450
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: and someone was like, if Dak had had that game

451
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Speaker 1: that Perdy just had middle cough, you would be taking

452
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Speaker 1: him to town. No, it wouldn't. That'd be one of

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Speaker 1: the best playoff games Dak's ever had. I've watched Act

454
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Speaker 1: the last three years get bounced in the playoffs. It's

455
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Speaker 1: from five interceptions and been horrendous. Here's the other thing,

456
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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, we're just using him as an example. Makes

457
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Speaker 1: forty million dollars. Part of judging brock perty is, I

458
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: don't know. He doesn't even make a million dollars. It's

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Speaker 1: why comparing him to all these other quarterbacks. Here's my

460
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: thing with Lamar Jackson. This was the worst MVP year

461
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Speaker 1: I think I ever have seen. Like, it's not some

462
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Speaker 1: great competition. It wasn't four guys throwing forty five touchdowns.

463
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Speaker 1: It was a shitty MVP year. That's why Brock was

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Speaker 1: in the conversation. Do I think he's comparable to a

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Speaker 1: lot of former MVPs some Roger seasons, some Brady seasons,

466
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Speaker 1: some home season. Of course not. You have to be

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00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: smoking crack to think that. But this notion that he

468
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: wasn't really good throughout the season. But they faced a

469
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Speaker 1: couple of big time defenses throughout the year and it

470
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: didn't look great. And that's something that we either got

471
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: to find out he can take the next step or

472
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: that's always going to be a crutch because until he

473
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Speaker 1: has to make big money, then like, yeah, he's kind

474
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Speaker 1: of grated on a curve. Does not make one million dollars.

475
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Speaker 1: To put this in perspective, Deshaun Watson next year, his

476
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: cap hit is sixty three million dollars. So the difference

477
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: between Deshaun Watson and Brock Purty is like sixty two

478
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: million dollars of cap space that you can build around

479
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: your team. That's a big advantage. Now, once you get paid,

480
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: we judge you differently. Jalen Hurts was an incredible story

481
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. Then we looked at him a

482
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Speaker 1: little differently once he signed three hundred million dollars or

483
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Speaker 1: whatever the hell he got and starts making forty five

484
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: to fifty million dollars a year. It's what's so incredible.

485
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, he was incredible on a rookie contract. Then

486
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Speaker 1: they gave him four hundred and fifty million dollars and

487
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: Florida was like, oh, they didn't guarantee you that much.

488
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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, when you're a great quarterback, I got

489
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Speaker 1: news for you. I actually ran into Mahomes's agent, Chris Cabin,

490
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: and we didn't talk about this, but when you're a good,

491
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 1: good quarterback, let alone an all time great quarterback, you

492
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: see every penny of your contract. All these other players

493
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Speaker 1: at all these other positions they're holding on for dear

494
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: life the moment they start slipping your cut to the

495
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Speaker 1: way it works with quarterbacks Google like Derek Carr and

496
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and Dak Prescott and all the guys that

497
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Speaker 1: we don't even consider to be top five or six quarterbacks,

498
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: they have seen every penny of every dollar they've ever

499
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Speaker 1: signed forment. They restructured, they got it all back if

500
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: they didn't see that last year. So I'm gonna end

501
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Speaker 1: with this. I do think he eventually will win it,

502
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: but these scars are gonna be something that he's gonna

503
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Speaker 1: have to build off of. Look in the mirror, and

504
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: his team didn't know the OT rules. He never got

505
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: brought Purdy on the move. But he did not lose

506
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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons the Super Bowl. He was a coordinator,

507
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: not the head coach. He was not even the boss.

508
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: Middle management can't send your company into bankruptcy unless like

509
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Speaker 1: they're committing.

510
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Speaker 2: Fraud or whatever.

511
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Speaker 1: And Andy Reid, once upon a time, at a similar age,

512
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Speaker 1: is viewed to some guy that's never gonna win the

513
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: big game? How'd that turn out? Speaking about Andy Reid,

514
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Speaker 1: I think he's a great example of sometimes it takes

515
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: so long for people to truly appreciate you. Like there

516
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: are some guys that just, for whatever reason, it just

517
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: happens for immediately. ConA Sean McVay gets hired at thirty

518
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Speaker 1: one and within five years he's a Super Bowl champ,

519
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: superstar making fifteen twenty million dollars a year, has Jeff

520
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: Bezos's company begging him to come work for them at

521
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars. And some guys like Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: who I swear to God, I've never been around I

523
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: never will be around another guy. And anyone who has

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Speaker 1: ever worked for the Chiefs in a scouting or a

525
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Speaker 1: coaching or a training capacity will swear by this with me.

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Speaker 1: It's impossible to work harder than that guy. His work

527
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Speaker 1: ethic is an elite, it's above elite. It just his

528
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Speaker 1: ability to grind is unlike anything I have and never

529
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Speaker 1: will see. And I've always said this just because you

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Speaker 1: work hard. Even in this great country we live in,

531
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Speaker 1: where capitalism you can make a ton of money, does

532
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: not guarantee you shit. You deserve nothing. You get what

533
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Speaker 1: you negotiate. But when you have the elite work ethic,

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Speaker 1: and you have this talent which Andy clearly as, which

535
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: is get along with people, understand football players, understand what

536
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Speaker 1: makes them tick. Obviously from a schematical standpoint, is elite.

537
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: Great at putting together staffs, great at just knowing his

538
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: industry inside and out, you will eventually get what you're

539
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: looking for. And it took him longer than most right,

540
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: took him eighteen nineteen years of coaching, but he has

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Speaker 1: two wins away and he coached three less years so

542
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: far in Kansas City than he worked in Philadelphia from

543
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: matching the win total in his time in Philadelphia, and

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Speaker 1: we all agree his time in Philadelphia was extremely successful.

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Speaker 1: What he's done in Kansas City, He's one hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty eight and fifty one in the regular season. He's

547
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: obviously won three Super Bowls in the last five or

548
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Speaker 1: six years. He's going to six straight AFC Championships. He

549
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: is currently dominating the league. And one thing I think

550
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Speaker 1: that we can argue to a blue in the face

551
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: him versus Belichick. I think both of them would tell

552
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: you the other guy is unreal. They're elite at their job.

553
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: And one thing with Andy, like Bill got Tom Brady

554
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago, it took Andy till twenty eighteen

555
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: to find his Tom Brady, and a lot like Bill.

556
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Speaker 1: Once you gave those two guys tom Brady, it was

557
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: on like Donkey Kong. Same thing. Bill Walsh didn't get

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Speaker 1: a head coaching job till later in life a couple

559
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: of years in guess Joe Montana I actually might have

560
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: been his first year in nineteen seventy nine, but within

561
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: a couple of years won the Super Bowl and the

562
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: rest is history. And I think the major difference between

563
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Speaker 1: Bill and Andy is Culturally I think they both share.

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Speaker 1: I've never worked for Belichick, but known a ton of

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Speaker 1: people who have. When I was at Fresno State, Pat

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00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: Hill used to work for Bill in Cleveland. A ton

567
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: of our Fresno State guys got drafted there. Moses Cabrera,

568
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: our strength and conditioning coach, has been there since like

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Speaker 1: twenty eleven, won multiple Super Bowls, three of them. And

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00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: the work ethic of Belichick and Andy it it's the

571
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: cream of the crop in the sport of football. But

572
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: Bill is a Northeastern kind of curumudgeon because that's kind

573
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Speaker 1: of the wiring of people back there. Well, the wiring

574
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Speaker 1: of us on the West Coast is a little different.

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Speaker 1: We're not as angry, we just aren't. It doesn't mean

576
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Speaker 1: that we're not moody or can't be edgy. But the

577
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: personality of the two of us, I think reflects the

578
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: two guys. One guy vacations in Nantucket, the other guy

579
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: vacations in southern California. One guy wears Tommy Bahama. The

580
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: other guy refuses to show up for the photo shoots

581
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: because he hates everybody. And I'll never forget, you know.

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Speaker 1: For those who don't know you know, in my second

583
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Speaker 1: year in Philadelphia, I had kind of felt lonely. It

584
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: was like this, I just by myself all the way

585
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: out there, even though we had a good young staff.

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Speaker 1: It's not like I didn't have friends, but my life

587
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: felt a little hot. And I remember started asking around, like,

588
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: is there any you know? Thanksgiving was coming up around

589
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: the corner, and I listen, I'm just second year guy

590
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: there pro scout making like fifty K at the end

591
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: of the day, not that important to the whole grand

592
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Speaker 1: scheme of things. But I was asking how he's assistant,

593
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: Katie I think still works there. You know, is there

594
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: like a homeless shelter or something that I could just

595
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: go give back, surf some food. I just wanted to

596
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: do something else beside just this world of football. We

597
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: were losing. It was just kind of a negative time

598
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: up upstairs. And I don't know how he got word

599
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: of it, but someone came down. I don't remember if

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Speaker 1: Andy came down or I got an email that was like,

601
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: go to Andy's house for Thanksgiving. He wants you to go.

602
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: So my second year in the NFL, on Thanksgiving Day,

603
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: we worked a little bit in the morning practice ins

604
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: and I just had Thanksgiving sat with Andy at his house.

605
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean Marty morning. We was there, Eugene chung like

606
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: it was I was just me and his family. There

607
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: were other people there, but he did not have to

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Speaker 1: invite me. And every single person who has been around Andy,

609
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: whether it's a player, whether it's a coach, and this

610
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: goes back to Green Bay, this obviously goes to Philadelphia

611
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: and now his time in Kansas City. Loved the guy

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00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: and if you played for him, you probably had success,

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00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: and you probably made a lot of money, and it

614
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: probably benefited your actual professional career. But I think when

615
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: you talk to these guys, whether it's way back in

616
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: the day, the Hugh Douglases, Brian Westbrooks, the next generation

617
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: of Shady McCoy's, Macklin's and Deshaun's and Vicks or this,

618
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, from Alex Smith, the Kelsey to Chris Jones

619
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: to Patrick and obviously a million players in between, they

620
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: all really like him. I mean, like really legitimately liked

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Speaker 1: the guy. And I think that's a huge difference between

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Speaker 1: him and Bill. Obviously, if you played for Bill over

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Speaker 1: twenty years with Brady, you fucking won. And a lot

624
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: of guys became legends and will make money the rest

625
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: of their life because of that time period. But most

626
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: of them all admit I have no relationship with the

627
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: guy zero. When I text Andy in a day or two,

628
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 1: he'll respond to me, I'm not Brian Westbrook, or I'm

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Speaker 1: not Howie Roseman, or I'm not Alex Smith. And I

630
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: can't even imagine how many guys I'm still on a

631
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: buddy on the Chiefs. I'm like, I get a response

632
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: quicker from Coach Reid than I do Veach, and it

633
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: just speaks to I think his personality, and he's just

634
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: a very unique character. He really is. And listen, I

635
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: wanted the Niners to win because I always felt good

636
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: I rooted for Coach Reid in twenty twenty, I honestly did,

637
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: and last year I was rooting for him as well,

638
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: but they weren't playing the Niners. I wanted the Niners

639
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: to win this one. But when it was all said

640
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: and done, I mean, it sucks. It's a pretty big kick,

641
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: and then you know what, especially if you had money

642
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: not on the Chiefs. But I don't think there's anyone

643
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: who have ever been associated with Andy that don't get

644
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: joy out of his success because of just what a

645
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 1: person he is and what like. There aren't many guys

646
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: like him. They're really not, and there won't be many

647
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: guys like him again. And I think what makes his

648
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: story so cool is again, these were first class problems

649
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: because he was winning a lot of games, but a

650
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: lot of people said he was never gonna get it done,

651
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: couldn't manage the game, got too pass happy. Now he

652
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: just went back to back Super Bowls for the first

653
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: time since twenty years and it was Bill Belichick and

654
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and other coaches like Jimmy Johnson or Walsh

655
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: and Seafford were doing it with the Niners. It's a

656
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: very very special category and Andy belongs in that category. Obviously.

657
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: A big reason he's in this category is because of

658
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: the quarterback. And like anything, there's an element of luck

659
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 1: in a draft when you are not the number one pick,

660
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: especially when you were in a situation like trading up

661
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: for him. But the organization had conviction. Veitchs loved him,

662
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: sold in the Dorsey, they sold in the Andy Naggy

663
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: and all those guys, and they were all obviously you

664
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: needed him to fall. They had to get a trade up,

665
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: and they pulled it off. But since we've seen him

666
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: play and then pull this off, he's one of the

667
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: most remarkable players we've ever seen. And early on what

668
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 1: made it so cool is he was like this Brett

669
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: Favre Steph Curry hybrid athlete. That's like, what is going

670
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: on here? And then this season was much more normal football.

671
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: It was difficult. He struggled. I remember on Christmas Day

672
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: and I was so hungover in watching him throw that

673
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: pick six against Jack Jones, and then I think a

674
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: series or two later he easily could have thrown another intercept.

675
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: He looked bad, and you're like, this is just not

676
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: going to be his year. Tough season, it happens. And

677
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: I've always been impressed with athletes, whether you're a pro

678
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: golfer and you just you can't hit a fairway, but

679
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: you look up at the end of the round, it's like,

680
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: got it shot three under a baseball pitchers like I

681
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: got my like C minus stuff today and you get

682
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 1: through seven and a half inaches. What you do when

683
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: you don't have it in sports truly determines how great

684
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna be. A lot of guys have elite talent.

685
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: A lot of guys have unreal physical capabilities, but you're

686
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: not always gonna have your A game. Things are gonna

687
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: come tough. And you're watching that Super Bowl going got

688
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: it just it looks off, it's tough. The d line

689
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: was peppering Mahomes and there were so many shots in

690
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: the second half that came right up to his face

691
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: and you're like, God, he doesn't even look faced. He

692
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: doesn't even really look like he's sweating. How is he

693
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: so dialed in right now? And that's what makes the

694
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: greatest players of all time who they are. It's their personality,

695
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: it's their wiring. That used to be the thing about

696
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: Joe Montana. His nickname was cool Joe. The pressure be

697
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, came stronger and stronger throughout the game, he

698
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: got more calm. Michael Jordan's ability to focus in the

699
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: biggest moments run paralleled Tiger Woods. Same thing, Tom Brady,

700
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: same thing, and we're watching a guy who listen. I'm

701
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: always fascinated by the human psychology, the wiring of it,

702
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: whether it's just all the reps he's had throughout his life,

703
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: whether it was the struggle in college, whether it's now

704
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: the combination of him and coach Reid whether it's a

705
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: learned experience. Obviously, you know a learned experience. The only

706
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: way you can experience is to go through stuff. But

707
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: you do have to wonder, was he born with certain

708
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: traits that make it more conducive for him to stay calm,

709
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: for him not to get worked up? And as he

710
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: learned that over time, as he matured. Is he more

711
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: mature now in terms of his emotions than he was

712
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: five or six years ago. I'm sure there are all

713
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: these variables. But I've said it forever and I'll say

714
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: it till the day I die. Love sports, still really

715
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: enjoy watching them. Obviously I watch much more football and

716
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: golf than the other two major sports. But I flipped

717
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: on the Warriors on Saturday night and watch Steh hit

718
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: that game winning shot, which I think is like easily

719
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: a top five game winning shot he's ever had. I

720
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: still like watching big time playoff baseball, where I like

721
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: it when the moments, the biggest, you know, the most,

722
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: is on the line and the best players are involved

723
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: in a two to two game, and Bryce Harper's up

724
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: in an O two count, It's like, what the fuck,

725
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: How's he gonna get out of this one? And then

726
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: a couple of pictures later he sends it into you know,

727
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: West Philadelphia, And that's what Patrick Mahomes is. He is

728
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: the reason I watched sports. And I think that game

729
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: was littered with high end guys. That was what was

730
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: so How good was Nick Bosa? How unreal was Fred Warner?

731
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: How about Travis Kelcey flipping the switch these last three

732
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: weeks after for his standard it felt like he was

733
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: slipping a little bit. Chris Jones, I mean, how good

734
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: is that guy? Holy shit? But the star of the show,

735
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: the guy that rows above it all, was Patrick Mahomes

736
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: and just was if you liked football, just fun to watch.

737
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: Let's beg out a couple other things. Vegas was incredible.

738
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: It really is. Taylor made to host this event. I

739
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: told Colin this yesterday and I've been thinking about it.

740
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: If you said the super Bowl was in Vegas the

741
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: next five years, I don't think a soul in the NFL.

742
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't think any fan who wanted to go to

743
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: the game would complain at all. I've never been to

744
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: a New Orleans super Bowl. I'm sure it's awesome. Have

745
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: been to a Miami super Bowl. It is awesome. I'm

746
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: biased Scottsdale, Phoenix, a little spread out, but still pretty cool.

747
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: I think there's especially waste management's going on. The same time,

748
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: it's a perfect time for the event. Vegas is set

749
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: up to do this moving forward, and I think I

750
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: saw a headline Roger Goodell says, we're coming back. Of

751
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: course you're coming back now. If you're there, it's it

752
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: can be a little risky. You never have to go outside.

753
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: Those casinos are always ice cold. It's easy to lose

754
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: five figures. I did. It hasn't been my greatest five

755
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: day stretch of life. I will promise you that. But

756
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: there is so much going on, and I think the

757
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: previous generation that you know, don't not everyone likes to gamble.

758
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: You know, some of us were born to, you know,

759
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: kind of put it on the line in whatever we're

760
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: doing on life. And that's what gets my juices flowing.

761
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: I like to gamble in life, right, whether that's actually

762
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: gambling on sports at the tables, whether it's business wise,

763
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: whether it's in the stock market. That I'll never get

764
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: my rocks off jumping out of a plane. I will

765
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: never skydive. I'm not gonna bungee jump. I don't like

766
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: doing shit like that. I don't need to get into

767
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: a fight to get my juice, like I like financially,

768
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: have something on the line that gets me going. That's

769
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: where I get my highs professionally and just in life.

770
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: That's one of my hobbies. In Vegas for guys like me,

771
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: is a pretty special place. But if even if you

772
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: don't like to gamble, there were I mean, there's always

773
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: stuff to do there. Concert Wise, the food in Vegas

774
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: is incredible. Obviously they have a million, like high end

775
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: five star restaurants, but even just some of the hole

776
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: in the wall spots. We went to this place. I

777
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: think the Cosmo is my favorite hotel. I haven't been

778
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: a Fountain Blue yet. I like Aria too, but I

779
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: think the Cosmo is just the perfect hotel. It has

780
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: literally everything you could possibly need. Gim is actually a

781
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: little shitty. Did hit that once and it didn't last long,

782
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: but I could use a little bigger Jim. But overall,

783
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: in terms of the amenities, everything you need, I just

784
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: can't recommend the place enough. And I told Colin this

785
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: before I was born. The guy my dad worked for

786
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: owned a casino in Vegas, and listen, I'm a sucker.

787
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: For Mob shows. Whether you've seen Casino, whether you've seen

788
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: the documentaries on the Mob. They ran Vegas. That is

789
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: no longer the case. So there was this stigma from

790
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: older people that Vegas was a shit place. It was

791
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: where shady shit goes down. You walk into Vegas. Now

792
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: it's like walking into the S and P. Five hundred.

793
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: It is run by corporate America. Now. There was a

794
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: moment at the ARIA, I sat down, me and the

795
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: Maria were doing a walk around, checking out some shops,

796
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: trying to get our steps in. Actually ran by Reggie Bush,

797
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: told him, you know my cousin. He juked him out

798
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: on one of his famous runs against Fresno State back

799
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five. But the ARI, I sat

800
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: down at this table and this dude at the ARIA

801
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: was like, love your show and listen. I'm not trying

802
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: toot my own horn, but I've gotten that before. It

803
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: doesn't throw me off. But I looked at the guy,

804
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: who's like sixty five years old. I was like, this

805
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: guy really listen to my show. And then he had

806
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if she was the pit boss or

807
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: just maybe the next dealer coming off. I mean, this

808
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: guy was just killing me, and she's like, oh, you're

809
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: that podcaster from YouTube. And it was like they had

810
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: things in their ear, like they were the CIA using

811
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: face recognition meet and then try to butter me up

812
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: so I could just give them, you know, two thousand dollars.

813
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: It was crazy. Listen. I'm not saying the dealer doesn't

814
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: listen to my show, but I do think there's a

815
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: chance that they were doing some stuff at the area.

816
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 1: So listen, I'm not acting like nothing shady happens in Vegas.

817
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: They have a business run like they're trying to get

818
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: my money. I'm trying to get theirs. We both know

819
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: the deal and the odds are in their favorites. Why

820
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: the casinos are so nice. But when you walk around Vegas,

821
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: one you feel very safe. Two you feel like no

822
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: matter what you want to do, they have it there

823
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 1: for you. High end, low end, mid end, it does

824
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: not matter. You don't need to be rich, you can

825
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: be poor. That there's something for everyone. There is every

826
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: price point at the hotel. I truly think that Vegas.

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00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: If I didn't live where I live now, I would

828
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: live in Vegas. There are two places that I would

829
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: live on the West Coast and that would be Vegas

830
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: or Scottsdale. And I think, now, you don't live on

831
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: the strip, but I understand why people live in Vegas

832
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: like it so much. Obviously the no state income tax helps,

833
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: but there is a vibe and an energy on that

834
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: strip that listen it. Maybe it's not for everybody, though

835
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: I do believe something is there for everybody. It's for

836
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: me and it's it was fucking awesome. And I if

837
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: your team makes the next Super Bowl in Vegas, I

838
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: cannot recommend going enough. A couple other things. Mike Zimmer

839
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys one thing. I haven't seen all the

840
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: details of the length of his contract. I would imagine

841
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer got more than a one year deal. Let's

842
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: just say this in a vacuum. Mike Zimmer is an

843
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: elite defensive coordinator. Elite. I think he is awesome. We

844
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: saw him in this with the Cincinnati Bengals. We saw

845
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: what he did as a head coach while he was

846
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: also calling plays with the Minnesota Vikings. I say this

847
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: all the time. How Rick Spielman isn't a general manager

848
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL is beyond me. He's easily one of

849
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: the best personnel men of the last ten to fifteen

850
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: years in the NFL. But as a wise man told

851
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: me once, coaches get seconds as gms typically don't. But

852
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer to me, is a no brainer higher for

853
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I do think that it could work out.

854
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: Mid season. Their defense is awesome, not skipping a beat.

855
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: They're winning twelve thirteen games, and we're judging them like normal,

856
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: which is gonna come down to the playoffs and everything's

857
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: cool during the year or things could get weird, right,

858
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: what if the season doesn't go that well? They got

859
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: McCarthy on a one year deal, they're the elephant in

860
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: the room. Is gonna be what are they gonna do

861
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: with them long term? Right? Is he gonna get a

862
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: contract extension? Is he gonna get fired? And that has

863
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: a chance to get weird. So all the coaches that

864
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 1: they were interviewing were big name guys, big personality guys.

865
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: They interviewed Rex Ryan, Mike Zimmer. Do you know what

866
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: those wink? Martindale is a good example of this. You

867
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: know what, those guys give zero? You know what about

868
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: worrying about what they say when they say it. They're

869
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: already rich, they don't have time to be political. Bruce

870
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: arians was the same way. They do not give a shit,

871
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: which I like, and when things are going well, it's awesome.

872
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: But if things get weird, and I'm not saying backstabbing

873
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: or anything, I'm just saying it adds to the weirdness.

874
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: So it's like the elephant in the room of something

875
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: to watch. Because of McCarthy's contract. If you told me

876
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: they hired Mike Zimmer even with that personality, but Mike

877
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: had just got a three year contract extension, I would

878
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: not bring this up. But Jerry is adamant that, like

879
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna coach on this one year. Mike's cool with

880
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: it. It just has potential to get weird. Speaking about getting weird,

881
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: I watched one of the days. Maybe it was when

882
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: I was at the gym at the COSMO. I flipped

883
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: on the press conference for Mike McDonald and John Schneider

884
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: and pretty impressive. Buttoned up a little stiff for me,

885
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: but you know, I've heard he's a great coach, young

886
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: coordinator from the Ravens, and I think the big question

887
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: mark was who they were going to hire as their

888
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. And the interviewed Chip and I was at

889
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: the volume party talking to Sherm and I was like,

890
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: that would be the worst tire and lit'sten give him credit.

891
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: They didn't do it. They went with Ben Grubb, who

892
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: is Kaylin du Boor's right hand guy, who's been with

893
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: him at Fresno State, who's been with him in Washington,

894
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: and went with him to Alabama. And on the surface,

895
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: like it's a no brainer. Higher he's clearly at least

896
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: been in college or pro one of the best offensive

897
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: coordinators in all of football. My only issue with it

898
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: is Mike McDonald's a good example. Mike McDonald has coached

899
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: in the pros, then he went to college, and then

900
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: he came back to the pros. So he kind of

901
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: has a lay of the land with everything recruiting, anil

902
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: free agency, trades, practice squad. He's seen it at all.

903
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: The issue with Ben Grubbs he's never worked in pro

904
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: football ever. And not saying that you can't make the

905
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: transition a lot of guys do. But if you look

906
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: at a lot of coaches when they make the transition

907
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: from college football, because that's where a lot of people start,

908
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: myself included, you usually start at a lower level. Sometimes

909
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: you start as a quality again, Roll coach. Sometimes you

910
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: start as a position coach and you work your way

911
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: up to a coordinator. I do think it is difficult

912
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: when your coordinating, and I like benng Grumm. Hell I

913
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: put the biggest bet I've ever made was a large

914
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: reason was Ben Grubb against Steve Sarkisian's defense, and it

915
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: paid off. It was awesome. But I've seen it before

916
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: and I think it can be very very tough for

917
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: these guys that have never worked in pro football, especially

918
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: when you go to work and your head coach is

919
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: the defensive guy, so the offense is all on you. Now, Ultimately,

920
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: football's football. Maybe the rules change a little right one

921
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: feet two feet when you're down in college, you're actually

922
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: not down in the pros if no one has touched you. So,

923
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: I mean there are little details here and there, but still,

924
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean, an outside zone is an outside zone, you know,

925
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: a seven yard out route. The different concepts are very

926
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: very similar, and they run I would say pro style

927
00:51:55,480 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: type offense, right. But dealing with people who make more

928
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: more money than you can be complicated. It just can't.

929
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: And I understand taking that risk. Listen, I'm a pro

930
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: risk taker, but we can't act like this is some

931
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: no brainer hire say this. I would not have hired

932
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly, but I do understand interviewing him go one.

933
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: The guy was begging to get out of UCLA, but

934
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: he has coached in the pros before. He's proven he

935
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: can do it. Ryan Grubb has not. And I'm not

936
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: saying from a schematic standpoint, I'm not saying this guy

937
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: will be overwhelmed in terms of getting guys open or

938
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: Colin run plays or anything. I'm just talking about on

939
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: a daily basis, dealing with people who the rules of

940
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: the way they operate, they're all under contract. When they're late,

941
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: you don't like have them go run hills. You find them.

942
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: It can just be somewhat of a culture shock for guys.

943
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: Speaking of a culture shock, I understood why Jeff Hafley

944
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: whatever that was, a couple of weeks ago, left Boston

945
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: College to go be the defensive coordinator for the Green

946
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. It's a better job. It just at Boston

947
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: College is a bottom five eight job in all of

948
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: Power five. The Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator job. If

949
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: you have success in two years, you'll be an NFL

950
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: head coach. They go to the playoffs, the next two

951
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: years and their defense is improved. Jeff Hafley will be

952
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 1: an NFL head coach. The Chip Kelly leaving UCLA and listen,

953
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm not here. I grew up actually a pretty big

954
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: UCLA fan. A good family friend of ours. John Hoefert

955
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: walked on UCLA's team with who is on those teams

956
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: like Jason Capono and some of those guys in the

957
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: late nineties, early two thousands. So I love UCLA basketball.

958
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: My cousin Nick Amandola played for the football team in

959
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: the early two thousands. I've always rooted for UCLA foot

960
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: just UCLA sports. Clearly, when it comes to this changing landscape,

961
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: they are behind the term or you know, the changing

962
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: adaptation of everything that's going on. Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Oregon,

963
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: all these Texas, all these programs are adapting, They're struggling,

964
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: and I understand it's not a great job, but like

965
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't give chip Kelly the benefit of

966
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: the doubt. I did not understand at the end of

967
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: last season why UCLA didn't fire Chip Kelly, an attempt

968
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: to hire Jonathan Smith from Oregon State. He's literally from Pasadena.

969
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't have the money because Jonathan Smith got

970
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: like seven and a half million dollars a year for

971
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: Michigan State. Maybe Jonathan Smith would have rather gone to

972
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: Michigan State. You had a West Coast guy who had

973
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: spent his entire career Boise State, Washington, Oregon State Leaf

974
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: when you had Chip Kelly, who doesn't give a shit

975
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: about you. Chip Kelly reminds me of these NBA players

976
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: that are just total mercenaries. And this is a huge

977
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: reason that no one really talks about. I think that

978
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: doesn't resonate with the zo anymore. Is like Kevin Durant's

979
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 1: on the Suns. I don't think Kevin Durant cares about

980
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns one iota. I don't think it means

981
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: anything to him, and I don't think he's alone. I

982
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: think all these guys, the jersey means nothing to them,

983
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: and maybe it's been that way for a while, but

984
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: I'll promise you the Lakers meant something to Kobe, The

985
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: Bulls meant something to Michael. The Lakers meant something to

986
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: Shack like it used to mean something Chip Kelly, Like

987
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: Nick Saban Alabama meant a lot to him. Georgia means

988
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: a lot to Kirby Smart Bob Stoops would run through

989
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: a wall for Oklahoma. Not a big urban Meyer guy,

990
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: but he cared about Ohio State. Chris Peterson really really

991
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: loved Boise State in Washington. Chip Kelly, if UCLA would

992
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: have burned five years ago, wouldn't have fucking thought twice,

993
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: did not care. And I never understood the hiring. I

994
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 1: don't understand chip Kelly. I really don't. He was really

995
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: good when I was scouting, and then he just kind

996
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 1: of got fat, literally and happy, and I think he's

997
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: just averages. The day is long now. And I understand

998
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State hiring him when Bill O'Brien goes to Boston College,

999
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: because that's Ryan Day. He created Ryan Day. He hired

1000
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 1: Ryan Day originally in Philly, took him to San Francisco. Obviously,

1001
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 1: the connection to Ubert Meyer, like he created this guy.

1002
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: But this notion that like Chip Kelly is still some

1003
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: dominant offensive coach, to me is kind of laughable. And

1004
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: no one at this point in time with a major

1005
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: job feels like they care less about everything going on.

1006
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: And listen, you'd be like, well, you're just biased. He

1007
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: fired you yeah. I know a lot of people that

1008
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: stayed and worked for the Eagles for the next couple

1009
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: of years. Not one of them has a positive thing

1010
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: to say about him. Not one. I don't know many

1011
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: people besides like in his inner circle that like the

1012
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: guy at all. And I based a lot of my opinions.

1013
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: Some of them are gut A lot of them are

1014
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: shared experiences and people that I know that have worked

1015
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: for certain people. It's why I go all in positively

1016
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: on some guys, and it's why negatively, I'll push all

1017
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: my chips in the middle of the table. I think

1018
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: this is laughable. I don't care that he left UCLA.

1019
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: I only cared that UCLA thought he cared. They should

1020
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: have fired him years ago. It made no sense. I

1021
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: understand being desperate whenever you originally hired him, but he

1022
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: proved pretty quickly he sucks. He's not any good. Do

1023
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: you know who should be celebrating right now, University of Michigan,

1024
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: Ohio State. I would pay for this guy to be

1025
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: on the staff. I was those programs. Michigan just hires

1026
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: Wink Martindale to be their defensive coordinator. You know who

1027
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: I like in that matchup? Wink Martindale, I'll promise you that,

1028
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: so you know, I listen. UCLA's got issues, maybe the programs,

1029
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't even My issue is not with chip Kelly,

1030
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: like wanting to get out of a program that was

1031
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: heading the right way. My issue is with UCLA years ago,

1032
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: not realizing how little he cared about the whole operation,

1033
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: how little he tried. And here's the other thing. He

1034
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: wanted out to be a coordinator. Every team in the

1035
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: NFL said no. He begged the Raiders, he begged Washington.

1036
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: He would have drove his car to McDonald's house and

1037
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: drove him across the country to work every day. All

1038
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: those guys said no, we're not interested. And if Bill

1039
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: O'Brien doesn't take the Boston College job, I mean he

1040
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: had nowhere to go. I think he might have just quit.

1041
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: I think he wouldn't have wanted to because he would

1042
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: have given up a lot of money, but it was

1043
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: definitely on his mind. But that's how chip Kelly's really

1044
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: felt since like the Eagles fired him. Was like, Eh, whatever,

1045
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of here. I hate the media and

1046
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: then I go work for the media. It's like just

1047
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: just a fraud. Listen, I've said this forever about Urban Meyer.

1048
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: He has some fraudulent characteristics. He's a big time football coach.

1049
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: Not can't be argued. Let's last time Chip Kelly's been

1050
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: good A decade ago. Twenty twenty four, The volume