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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at Advocates Law dot com.

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Speaker 2: Thomas is on the phone today for a first day

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by Sophie. So in

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Speaker 2: a little while, So in just a few minutes, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna call Sophie and see if she'll tell us why

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Speaker 2: she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date. But

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Speaker 2: before we do that, Thomas, how long has it been

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Speaker 2: since you heard from Sophie.

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Speaker 3: It's been about four days.

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Speaker 4: Hey, that's not too bad. You're sure you getting ghosted.

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Speaker 5: I have sent a few messages and I haven't heard back,

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Speaker 5: So at this point I do.

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Speaker 3: Think I'm get ghosted.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, let's hear about your date. How did that go?

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Speaker 5: So, in my mind, it went pretty well. I think

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Speaker 5: we had some drinks and advertisers. We got to know

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Speaker 5: each other a little bit, and it was good overall.

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Speaker 5: There was one moment where we I don't even want

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Speaker 5: to call it an argument, but we did have a

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Speaker 5: little like heated back and forth for a minute. So

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Speaker 5: that's why I'm thinking that's what it probably was.

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Speaker 3: If I were to guess.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to the heated back and forth in

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Speaker 2: just a second. How did you get there?

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Speaker 3: Oh, we were just we were just getting getting like

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Speaker 3: getting food.

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Speaker 5: I picked her up and we went and uh yeah,

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Speaker 5: just got some food and drinks and it was pretty

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Speaker 4: So what was the heated debate about then?

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Speaker 3: So we were going through uh we were talking about.

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Speaker 5: My dating profile and stuff, and she kept just being like, uh, so,

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Speaker 5: what's your real hyder or or so what's your real job?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, what do you It's right here, like

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Speaker 3: I already said it, Oh believe me?

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Speaker 5: Uh or it seems like she didn't believe me, and

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Speaker 5: so it just got kind of back and forth. But

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Speaker 5: once I cleared it up, I feel like everything for

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Speaker 5: the rest of the night was good and we had fun.

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Speaker 2: Was she joking or she actually legit didn't believe it?

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Speaker 3: It seemed like she she didn't believe me.

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Speaker 6: If she didn't believe you, that that wasn't a you problem,

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Speaker 6: Like I think that that would just mean that she'd

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Speaker 6: been lied to and those apps had been leading her

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Speaker 6: astray many times before you. So you know, I guess

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Speaker 6: it would depend on how you responded to that. So

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Speaker 6: you yelled back or what did.

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Speaker 3: That sound like, yeah, No, I don't think I wasn't

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Speaker 3: trying to Uh. I wasn't yelling back or anything.

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Speaker 5: But I think after the second time, I'm kind of like, so,

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Speaker 5: what's your real job?

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Speaker 3: I was kind of like, well, this is my real job,

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Speaker 3: Like these are this is what I did.

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Speaker 5: That was I'm not lying. I might have found it

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Speaker 5: a little more in sence. So that's why I think

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Speaker 5: it wasn't really an argument. It was just kind of

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Speaker 5: like a heated thing from for a second.

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Speaker 4: I mean, can I ask those there, like your height?

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Speaker 4: Exact height? Some guys lie about their height to ask

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Speaker 4: it's there.

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Speaker 3: I don't do that. I put it. I put my

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Speaker 3: real height on there, and I put my job on there.

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Speaker 6: That's cool that you're out here telling the truth. I

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Speaker 6: think that that's understandable. And it not understandable, but you know,

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Speaker 6: we respect that.

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Speaker 4: Are you a.

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Speaker 3: Shorter, dude, I'm six foot flat.

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Speaker 4: Oh. I don't think it was the height. I don't

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Speaker 1: Was there anything else that happened on the date that

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Speaker 1: may have caused a little bit of I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say tension, but I was gonna say friction, But

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Speaker 1: usually friction could be a good thing, good words.

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Speaker 6: She kind of asked for it. She kind of walked

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Speaker 6: right into friction. Maybe she's one of those people that

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Speaker 6: gets turned on by arguments. Oh yeah, you know how

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Speaker 6: some people are into that and they like like a

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Speaker 6: and then diffused it, maybe she got bored. That would

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Speaker 3: Was true, Yeah, but maybe interesting.

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Speaker 4: How did things end with you guys?

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Speaker 3: It was pretty good.

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Speaker 5: We we hugged, We didn't kiss, but uh, it wasn't

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Speaker 5: It didn't feel like things were bad. It felt like

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Speaker 5: at that point the energy has kind of turned around

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Speaker 5: and Advisor backed up?

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Speaker 2: Did you say anything about future plans? Like you know,

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Speaker 2: when you guys parted ways?

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Speaker 3: I said, I'll text you and she said, all right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, well, and you've heard nothing in four day,

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Speaker 2: so will play a song come back and then call

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Speaker 2: her see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you

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Speaker 2: and maybe get you another.

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Speaker 3: Day to right awesome? Thank you?

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Speaker 4: All right, well plas on' come back, get your first

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Speaker 4: DA follow up.

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Speaker 2: Next right in the middle of today's first date fall

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Speaker 2: If you're just joining us. Thomas is on the phone,

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Speaker 2: and Thomas is getting ghosted by Sophie. So we're about

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Speaker 2: to call her right now and see if she'll tell

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Speaker 2: us why she's ghosting and maybe get him another date.

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Speaker 2: But before we do that, Thomas, why don't you catch

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Speaker 2: everybody up on your date with Sophie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So, Sophie and I met on one of the dating apps.

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Speaker 5: We ended up going out for drinks and appetizers. It

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Speaker 5: was a pretty good time overall. At the beginning, we

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Speaker 5: were going over my dating profile and she was pointing

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Speaker 5: out some like things that she thought were maybe I

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Speaker 5: was lying about but I wasn't, and so they got

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Speaker 5: kind of a little tension there for a moment, but

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Speaker 5: after that it was all right. But I haven't heard

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Speaker 5: with her and have another date.

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Speaker 4: All right, Were you ready for us to call her?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Huh, I'm asking to Sophie. Please, Sophie, Hi,

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Speaker 2: how are you? My name is Jubil and I hostdio show.

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Speaker 2: It's called The Jubil Show.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Sophie, I'm Nina also on the show. Hi, I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 4: Hi on the phone with you. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good, there's so many of you.

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Speaker 2: Well, we do a segment on the show it's called

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Speaker 2: the first Day follow Up. So that's where if you

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Speaker 2: go out on a date with somebody and then you

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Speaker 2: end up ghosting them, that person can get have us

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Speaker 2: get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them.

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Speaker 2: So you're currently actively ghosting somebody I think, okay, and

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Speaker 2: his name is Thomas okay, okay, and you went out

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Speaker 2: with him like a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it was like I don't like four or

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Speaker 1: five days ago or something. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he says you haven't talked to him since

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Speaker 2: you guys have gone out, so we're wondering if you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm going I'm just like really awkward

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Speaker 3: It's like I'm not interested, so I just avoid doing that.

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Speaker 1: On our date, he like we got into like a fight,

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Speaker 1: and I just feel like if you get into like

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Speaker 4: What was the fight about.

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Speaker 3: It was just like a.

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Speaker 1: Couple of things, Like he was just being super cagey,

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Speaker 1: his profile, I think he said he was like six

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Speaker 3: And he was just like him six feet and I'm

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Speaker 1: And so that was weird, and he got really like

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Speaker 3: And he kept like laughing.

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Speaker 1: At me when I was getting like frustrated and like

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Speaker 3: I was like getting frustrated.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I just think he's like I

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you guys were legit arguing because he told

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Speaker 4: To me, it wasn't playful, not for me, Like I.

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Speaker 1: Was gonna like he thought he seemed to think it

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Speaker 1: I don't like having people like kind of lie to me.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I don't even know if his job,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I was sketched out.

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Speaker 6: So you didn't get the vibe that he was lying

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, because like before we had just been like

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Speaker 3: I don't know. He seemed fine before.

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Speaker 4: So what made you feel like he was lying about

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Speaker 1: I don't know, like like just what the job saying.

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Speaker 1: It's like I don't know what answering your question with

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Speaker 4: So because I felt like he wasn't truthful with you, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean he definitely.

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Speaker 1: I would be literally shocked if he was truthful at all.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, well let's ask him, because now I have

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Speaker 4: to be truthful. Sophie. Thomas is on the other line

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Speaker 4: listing and wants to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Sophie, that's really awkward.

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Speaker 5: I know, I just hold on because I feel like

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Speaker 5: maybe I wasn't there at dinner and stuff. I was

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Speaker 1: First of all, sorry if I said all that stuff

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Speaker 1: about you, uh, it seems like you were lying and

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Speaker 1: it's weird. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: In my opinion, I was like, oh, great, like good,

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Speaker 5: we had a good first conversation that like we're at

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Speaker 5: least like expressing like ourselves and being honest. And I

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Speaker 5: don't know, I felt like that was a good way

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Speaker 3: I wasn't lacking. We don't.

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Speaker 5: I just feel like I feel stuck before it because

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Speaker 5: it feels like there's nothing I can say that will

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Speaker 4: Well, what do you consult on?

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Speaker 3: I mean, just various businesses hire me? Okay that you guys,

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Speaker 3: come on, that's like, what is that?

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Speaker 4: So that's cool. So what did you consult on in

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Speaker 3: It was it was a it was a construction business.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, would you consult with them? Like with that?

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Speaker 4: What do you do specializing in construction?

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Speaker 3: Just sort of coding and just general like permit stuff. Yes.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like you didn't really answer anything about anything.

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Speaker 1: So it's like, what project are you working on right now?

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Speaker 3: Right now? I'm in between projects? Okay, so what was

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Speaker 3: your last project? The one that just finished?

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Speaker 5: It was it was for an updating like a subway station?

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Speaker 4: What I mean, people really do this?

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Speaker 3: Does this sound like that's true?

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Speaker 5: I can.

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Speaker 2: I can see Sophie's side on this, Thomas, You're not

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Speaker 2: giving enough detail to make it sound convincing.

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Speaker 5: Really, I was just gonna I mean, the truth is

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Speaker 5: I work for what was my dad's company, and I

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Speaker 5: still you know, I've taken over a lot of responsibility.

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Speaker 5: But I feel like maybe that's that's something I've been

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Speaker 5: hesitant to say because it's not like I built it myself.

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Speaker 6: I think that's fair. Also, maybe there doesn't need to

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Speaker 6: be that much pressure on your job on a first date.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, fine, okay, so all rightly, what about the height?

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Speaker 3: Like how tall are you? Actually?

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Speaker 5: When I go to the doctor, they say I'm a

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Speaker 5: six pots flat?

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Speaker 3: Are you paying in this?

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Speaker 1: You're not?

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Speaker 3: Hey, if you want to go on another date, you

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Speaker 3: can measure me.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there you go, Sophie, would you like to go

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Speaker 2: on another date with Thomas. We'll pay for it, then

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Speaker 2: you can measure him. No, I don't want.

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Speaker 3: To measure him. I don't want to do that. Okay, No,

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Speaker 3: there's absolutely no way.

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Speaker 4: They don't sound that compatible. To be honest, we're not. Okay.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for being honest.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for thanking me.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's your loss because yeah, you could have measured

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Speaker 5: me in more ways than one.

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Speaker 4: Oh Jubile's first day follow up