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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I am Paul Charchian. I
Speaker 1: have two co hosts today as usual. Brian Johnson, Hey, Brian.
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Speaker 1: We're really glad to have you here because we spend
Speaker 1: our fall as totally immersed in the NFL and then
Speaker 1: we try to play catch up on the college guys
Speaker 1: in February March April. Role you do this all year round.
Speaker 1: You know so much more than we do, so perfect
Speaker 1: to bring you in to talk about all of the
Speaker 1: players that went after Round one. Last week's show. We
Speaker 1: did Round one players. We recorded on Friday, so we
Speaker 1: had all the Thursday stuff. I want to talk about
Speaker 1: the fantasy players who matter most that went to through seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was was going to require a lot of
Speaker 3: prep and the like. Let us get thork.
Speaker 5: I didn't have to do anything. I just go make.
Speaker 3: Rookies exactly were hooked up today.
Speaker 1: Yes, uh, I want to start the quarterback position. We'll
Speaker 1: hit all the hit quarterbacks, running back to wide receivers,
Speaker 1: tight ends. Again, we're not doing everybody, because you can't.
Speaker 1: That would be an enormously long, boring show. We're going
Speaker 1: to hit on the players who have the greatest chance
Speaker 1: of making some reasonably close term impact. So let's start
Speaker 1: at wide receiver as sorry, quarterback. And the first quarterback
Speaker 1: taken after the first round was Will Levis, who surprisingly
Speaker 1: fell out of the first round ends up at Tennessee
Speaker 1: as the possible.
Speaker 5: Air apparent to Ryan Tannehill. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Will, he's gonna start number three on the depth chair.
Speaker 4: We've already seen that. And there's a couple different things
Speaker 4: with his game that he needs to fix. The biggest
Speaker 4: one and the one that I'm most concerned about, it's
Speaker 4: the lack of pocket presence, He doesn't sense the pass rushers.
Speaker 4: That's something that they're going to use that developmental year
Speaker 4: to try to fix with him.
Speaker 5: We'll see if they they're.
Speaker 4: End up being able to do that, but yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean it's going to take that year.
Speaker 5: I don't expect to see him on the field in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: All right, that's critical for redraft. We don't think Will
Speaker 1: loves plays this year.
Speaker 5: But Tanhill's on the last year of his deal.
Speaker 1: Do you believe will Lovis is the probable starter for
Speaker 1: Tennessee next year?
Speaker 4: Yeah, in twenty twenty four, that's sort of what they're indicating.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, I don't know. You're gonna have
Speaker 4: to see what you got in him that this coming season.
Speaker 4: But yeah, the thing that he has to fix it's
Speaker 4: the exact same thing that I use to pick out
Speaker 4: quarterback bus. It's the thing that Zach Wilson lacked. It's
Speaker 4: the thing that Drew Locke act. They haven't been able
Speaker 4: to fix it yet. Can you fix it with Will Levis?
Speaker 4: If you do, he's going to be a good quarterback.
Speaker 4: But that's a long bridge to get there.
Speaker 3: I'm going to disagree a little. I think there's a
Speaker 3: chance we see him on the field this year, really,
Speaker 3: because it's no longer it used to be the Titans
Speaker 3: Division in the AFC South like they trounced they were
Speaker 3: trounce the Jaguars, the Texans and who am I forgetting
Speaker 3: Colts the Colts soon in recent history. But now it's
Speaker 3: the Jaguars Division. And if you know the Titans go
Speaker 3: Billy up come mid late November, well they not.
Speaker 1: They effectively benched Ryan Tannehill last year, so you know
Speaker 1: that scenario is out there. All right, Let's move on
Speaker 1: to Hendon Hooker, the other, uh, the other the other
Speaker 1: quarterback that was often mocked into the first round but
Speaker 1: fell all the way to the third round.
Speaker 5: He goes to Detroit.
Speaker 3: What is the are getting mocked for taking into a
Speaker 3: little bit?
Speaker 1: But you know, at that point the value is pretty good.
Speaker 1: But people and and a year ago at this time
Speaker 1: nobody believed that Jared Goff was the quarterback of the future.
Speaker 1: Had a nice season and now people are more content there.
Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts again, not this year for
Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker, but long term dynasty value thor.
Speaker 4: It's funny because all spring I railed against this idea
Speaker 4: of Hendon Hooker as a first round pick. But it's
Speaker 4: like Brian was mentioning where he fell to the Lions
Speaker 4: in the draft. That's juice worth the squeeze in the spot.
Speaker 4: That's right around where I had him ranked on my
Speaker 4: big board. He's an older prospect coming in obviously he's
Speaker 4: coming out the knee injury, so you're not going to
Speaker 4: get any utility there from him as a rookie, right,
Speaker 4: but the Lions are clearly looking at him as a
Speaker 4: guy that they could potentially be the air apparent to
Speaker 4: Jared Goff. You see when he comes back, the thing
Speaker 4: he has to fix, well, it's not even fixed. It's
Speaker 4: just some we've literally never seen before Tennessee offense. It's
Speaker 4: not just that the field is cleved in half for you,
Speaker 4: It's that he could square his shoulders in his entire
Speaker 4: body to the side of the field that the play
Speaker 4: is designed to go to. We have never seen Hendon
Speaker 4: Hooker go to the other side of the field. He
Speaker 4: predominantly threw to his first read. He knew what side
Speaker 4: of the field he was going to, yep, And when
Speaker 4: he has moved off of his spot, he doesn't throw ever.
Speaker 4: I think it was one hundred and fifty five times
Speaker 4: last two seasons he was moved off his spot. In
Speaker 4: those instances, he completed seven passes.
Speaker 5: That's terrible. That is terrible.
Speaker 4: So he has to learn how to process while he's
Speaker 4: on the move. That stuff we just haven't seen before.
Speaker 4: Can they teach him that stuff during this injury red
Speaker 4: shirt season that's coming up? That will inform whether he
Speaker 4: is their quarterback of the future.
Speaker 3: If something were to happen to goff injury wise, not
Speaker 3: that he's injury prone or anything. Hooker right now is
Speaker 3: second on their depth chart. He would he be ready
Speaker 3: injury wise to play?
Speaker 5: I don't think so.
Speaker 4: I would be surprised if he's back in active before
Speaker 4: November's you know, that's when he suffered the injury. But
Speaker 4: maybe he could come back by October. But why would
Speaker 4: you want to throw him to the wolves when he
Speaker 4: has never done these things that the NFL offense is
Speaker 4: going to ask him to do.
Speaker 3: Well, you can throw them to the wolves so you
Speaker 3: won't have to play Nate Sudfield or Suidfield or Adrian Martinez.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Kansas State Wildcats.
Speaker 3: Of course you would know that last thing.
Speaker 1: I'll mention a Hooker in him possibly passing golf. We
Speaker 1: act like Jared Goff's got one foot in the grave.
Speaker 5: He's twenty eight.
Speaker 1: If Jared Goff still got potentially like eight decade of
Speaker 1: service ahead of him, Hendon Hooker got no interest even
Speaker 1: in Dynasty for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not for me either, I don't think and the
Speaker 4: Lions love Jared Goff more than any other organization, like
Speaker 4: they're higher on him for whatever reason.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I would expect Goff to be the start
Speaker 5: of there for a couple more years.
Speaker 3: Hooker was only three years younger.
Speaker 1: That's that's the point Saints took the next quarterback off
Speaker 1: the board. I don't think Jake Hayn is worth spending
Speaker 1: much time on.
Speaker 3: But I admittedly never heard of the guy. But I
Speaker 3: know Thor has.
Speaker 1: Or get us up to speed on on Jake Hayn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was really good the last couple of years
Speaker 4: for Fresno State. He couldn't get on the field early
Speaker 4: in his career with Washington, so that's where he had
Speaker 4: transferred and he did.
Speaker 5: He did really, really good.
Speaker 4: He also had a great senior ball and he did
Speaker 4: great on that S two Test, which I know the
Speaker 4: NFL cares about quite a bit. Now it's surpassed the
Speaker 4: wonder lick whatnot.
Speaker 5: So you have all that stuff.
Speaker 4: He reminds you a little bit of rock perty from
Speaker 4: the previous process where the things that he lacks is
Speaker 4: stuff he can't do anything about. The frame, uh, just
Speaker 4: sort of mediocre athletes, and then they have the wet
Speaker 4: noodle arms. But they process the field really quickly. They
Speaker 4: take profits, they don't make mistakes with the ball. Both
Speaker 4: those guys are leaders. He's gonna run your offense for
Speaker 4: you if he ever gets out there. So I mean,
Speaker 4: I could see him down the road coming in if
Speaker 4: he has to be a caretaker.
Speaker 5: Being okay with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Carr just signed a four five year deal,
Speaker 1: So it feels like Hayn to me is just going
Speaker 1: to be a back.
Speaker 3: Car and hater both from Presdo state though.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's true, Yeah, all right, some kind of
Speaker 1: advantages to that. The next quarterback taken was Stetson Bennett.
Speaker 1: He ends up going to the Rams.
Speaker 5: There's Stafford. We didn't even know I Stafford was going.
Speaker 1: To play this year, right, He was so close to
Speaker 1: thinking about retiring. Another bad year for him or another
Speaker 1: injury field year. That could be it for Stafford. Does
Speaker 1: Stetson Bennett have any game at the NFL level?
Speaker 4: So I compare him to Ian Buck, you know, it's
Speaker 4: just so, No, I don't think so, not for me.
Speaker 4: I mean he can process the field a little bit,
Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean you lack the free even more
Speaker 4: than Jay Cayner does. And I don't know if he
Speaker 4: processes as well as Jay Cayner does on the field.
Speaker 4: I thought that was a really weird pick in round four.
Speaker 1: All right, the last quarterback I want to talk about
Speaker 1: also a round four guy where the Raiders taking Aid
Speaker 1: and O'Connell. He I mentioned this only because Garoppolo so
Speaker 1: wobbly as the starter. This could be a one and
Speaker 1: done experiment with Garoppolo. In fact, I'm guessing it will
Speaker 1: be a one and done experiment. I think the Raiders
Speaker 1: will be at near the top of the draft order
Speaker 1: and taking another quarterback at this time next year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they definitely could be O'Connell. I like his pocket
Speaker 4: game enough. He goes through the progressions for sure. He
Speaker 4: did for Jeff Browms offense at Purdue. He's not athletic, though,
Speaker 4: and he has arm limitations as well, so he's not
Speaker 4: going to hurt the defense down the field. But he
Speaker 4: does give you that short and intermedia area accuracy. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know if he has the physical skills to
Speaker 4: be a long term start in the NFL.
Speaker 3: I'm pulling for fourth stringer Chase Garber's on the Raiders
Speaker 3: depth start, just so we can say that it's Garber's
Speaker 3: Garber's time.
Speaker 5: I like it. Let's go to the running backs.
Speaker 1: We already talked about the Day one running backs, so
Speaker 1: let's go to the Day two running backs and beyond,
Speaker 1: beginning with the shocking pick, not by talent but by
Speaker 1: location of Zach Sharbonay did not see Seattle as a
Speaker 1: landing spot here.
Speaker 5: I didn't either. Yeah, I love Zach Charbine.
Speaker 4: Zach Shearbeney was actually my number two rated running back,
Speaker 4: just slightly ahead of Jamior Gives. So like, I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna disagree with the talent at all, but the landing spot, yeah,
Speaker 4: was super weird. And you take Kenneth Walker to the
Speaker 4: Brown two the year before, now you take Sharboney. They
Speaker 4: explained it after the pick of saying like, oh, we
Speaker 4: needed to improve our screen game. And I do agree
Speaker 4: that Zach Scharbenney was a super underrated receiver. He averaged
Speaker 4: nearly ten yards after the catch in college. But you're
Speaker 4: not just gonna draft the guy to be a screen
Speaker 4: game guy.
Speaker 5: No, not in the second round.
Speaker 4: It's it's real weird. They obviously like Charbeney's game. I
Speaker 4: really like Charbonnay's game too, so I get it on
Speaker 4: that front. But how is that going to work out
Speaker 4: with him and Kenneth Walker at the start?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he fantasy. It's a nightmare. You could hear the
Speaker 3: cl have grown across the country when Charbonnaye got picked.
Speaker 1: As the Kenneth Walker dynasty owners like, oh, you're kidding me?
Speaker 3: And charbonne whoever already had their draft or was planning
Speaker 3: on drafting him at the potential of being a lead back,
Speaker 3: that seems like the most platoony platoon there's going to
Speaker 3: be in the NFL right now. Screen game Kenny McIntosh
Speaker 3: running back they took in the seventh round. Granted, not
Speaker 3: a lot of draft capital there, but he's like a
Speaker 3: receiving special screen guy.
Speaker 5: So that's the one thing he done.
Speaker 3: He'll do the backfield in Seattle disaster.
Speaker 5: Very weird.
Speaker 1: I had hoped that Charbonne would find his way to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: That did not happen, but we'll talk about We'll talk
Speaker 1: about Cincinnati and where they went in a few minutes.
Speaker 1: Last question on Zach Charbonay for you the balls at
Speaker 1: the three yard line, who's getting the carry?
Speaker 4: I think I think it's going to be Zach Charbonay.
Speaker 4: I do too perfectly for it, right, Yeah, he's you know,
Speaker 4: he's top fifteen or even top ten in the nation
Speaker 4: last year, an elusive rating, and certainly he wasn't and
Speaker 4: broken tackles for us, So I think it's going to
Speaker 4: be sharpinnet.
Speaker 1: Third round, the Saints went with Kendray Miller. Now, what's
Speaker 1: interesting about the Saints, You know, with Alvin Kamara's play
Speaker 1: has dropped off a lot last year, especially year before that,
Speaker 1: you know, and he's been used a variety of different ways,
Speaker 1: never been really a goal line guy. And then all
Speaker 1: the legal troubles surrounding Alvin Kamara as well.
Speaker 5: Here it comes Kendray Miller.
Speaker 1: How quickly do you think he gets up to speed
Speaker 1: and is a factor in this offense.
Speaker 4: They're going to try to push him up there. They
Speaker 4: believe in Kendrey Miller more than I do. I had
Speaker 4: him one hundred and forty seventh on my big boardy
Speaker 4: seventy first. Okay, it's like he has a well rounded game,
Speaker 4: but he's not elite at anything, So like I you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess there's some of those parts
Speaker 4: the Saints liked a little bit more than me. But yeah,
Speaker 4: just because of the draft capital, he's going to get
Speaker 4: looks early on and we'll see how it works out
Speaker 4: with Kamara and those other guys whatnot. But yeah, I
Speaker 4: wasn't as big of a believer in the talent set.
Speaker 5: I was shocked that.
Speaker 1: They didn't go with spears or a chain or you know,
Speaker 1: some of the other tank bigsby who all Roshawn Johnson.
Speaker 1: I liked all those guys more than I like Henry Miller.
Speaker 5: Surely I was. I was surprised by the selection there.
Speaker 3: The problem with Miller and Kamara is Jamal Williams is
Speaker 3: now in New Orleans, who had the all time touchdown
Speaker 3: vulture season last year with the Lions. So yeah, it
Speaker 3: seems like a nice landing spot for Miller, but it's
Speaker 3: not as nice as it appears with Williams there now.
Speaker 1: All right, Tennessee a lot of people thought Tennessee would
Speaker 1: go running back at some point because we you know,
Speaker 1: all the rumors them trying to move Derrick Henry and
Speaker 1: we know Henry is in what is probably the final
Speaker 1: core tile of his career. They ended up going stylistically
Speaker 1: pretty far from where Derrick Henry is.
Speaker 5: With taj Spears, they sure did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, taj Spears is one of my favorite players in
Speaker 4: this draft class.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 4: He's a home run hitter and he reminds me a
Speaker 4: lot of a guy ironically that went in the first
Speaker 4: round a couple of years ago, Travis etn. Yeah, their
Speaker 4: games are so similar. It's all about the birds, the acceleration,
Speaker 4: and then when they get out into space, it's like
Speaker 4: they sensed the guys around them or whatever and then
Speaker 4: they can you know, both didn't know what that, but
Speaker 4: also set him up with the one cut change of
Speaker 4: direction everything like that. Uh, A little bit surprised he
Speaker 4: fell to way he did, except with you give the
Speaker 4: context of his medicals. There were some teams that maybe
Speaker 4: ding them a little bit on their board because he
Speaker 4: has two knee injuries in the past.
Speaker 5: That's the one question with Tajay Spears.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you get the receiving utility with
Speaker 4: him as much as well.
Speaker 5: We did see it the senior bow.
Speaker 4: He was better at that than we thought he would be,
Speaker 4: just because Tulane didn't use him as that right, But
Speaker 4: he was shaking guys in the one on ones in
Speaker 4: the route and showed soft hands as well, So maybe
Speaker 4: he can give him some some receiving utility there. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean what what he really brings your offense, It's
Speaker 4: that explosive element hitting the home runs.
Speaker 3: To go a little deeper in the medicals. Two torn
Speaker 3: acls in the past. At the combine test revealed a
Speaker 3: full thickness cartilage loss. Yeah, no ACL in his knee.
Speaker 5: That is a huge worry for me.
Speaker 3: Additionally, Spears has arthritis. Yes, two years old.
Speaker 1: I mean thor you know, you know I for me,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of concern about Spears like long
Speaker 1: term dynasty value because I'm worried this could be a
Speaker 1: short career for him. You know, three four years later
Speaker 1: this might be it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 4: I guess I'm on team no give this second contract
Speaker 4: to the running backs.
Speaker 5: So like for me, it never matters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as long as you get the utility out of
Speaker 4: him during that rookie contract, And one thing that behooved
Speaker 4: me about him was that last season, he plays the
Speaker 4: entire season, doesn't get hurt, and got better and better
Speaker 4: and better as the season went along, shredded USC in
Speaker 4: the ballgame, shredded UCF and the AC title game. But yeah,
Speaker 4: do I think he's gonna have a super long career
Speaker 4: in the NFL. No, it's not because of the skill.
Speaker 4: It's because of those knees, all right, So how.
Speaker 1: Quickly can tij Spears make an impact in the Tennessee offense?
Speaker 5: In your mind?
Speaker 1: With Derek Henry still there and presumably the lead back.
Speaker 4: They will work him in situationally, absolutely as a rookie,
Speaker 4: Like the talent is such with him as a runner
Speaker 4: that he has to be on the field situationally.
Speaker 5: So they're gonna have to figure out some way.
Speaker 4: To do that, and you can mitigate Henry's touches a
Speaker 4: little bit through that.
Speaker 3: Let's go to yes real quick, would you deeper dynasty leagues?
Speaker 3: People know Hassan Haskins, Yeah, who the Titans drafted in
Speaker 3: the fourth round last year, put some decent draft capital
Speaker 3: into him. But is this kill shot for Haskins.
Speaker 5: I think it's gotta be. It's gotta be, all right.
Speaker 3: I'm cutting them in our empire.
Speaker 5: I think again, I think that's it for Haskins.
Speaker 1: Well, let's go to Miami, uh where the player who
Speaker 1: gets into the best possible landing spot is Devon a
Speaker 1: Chain And I think I pronounced that right.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be something to fight all for the rest
Speaker 1: of his career. So the Dolphins end up with the
Speaker 1: fastest running back in this draft.
Speaker 5: Yeah, faster than Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and a guy that is totally in line with
Speaker 4: the McDaniel and the San Francisco forty nine ers Tree, right,
Speaker 4: Like those are just the running backs that they're attracted to.
Speaker 4: In that sense of it, I agree with that absolutely.
Speaker 4: Od Chain reminded me of joab at Best, you know,
Speaker 4: the kid who would come out of another first round guy.
Speaker 5: Way back in the day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's the same sort of thing with I
Speaker 4: change the thing that I like about him. Typically we
Speaker 4: associate with those smaller sub threshold backs. He weighed in
Speaker 4: was a one hundred and eighty eight pounds at the combine.
Speaker 4: They're dancers, you know, They're guys that want to dance
Speaker 4: around and make you miss. Chain is not at all
Speaker 4: like he wants to get on a straight line. He
Speaker 4: is an arrow pointer at the goal line every time
Speaker 4: he gets the ball, so and that really stresses the
Speaker 4: defense because the angles start getting a race one by
Speaker 4: one if he has that straight line. But yeah, it'll
Speaker 4: be interesting to see how he gets mixed in with
Speaker 4: the other Dolphins running backs. But they will definitely be
Speaker 4: using him as a rookie.
Speaker 3: We know two chains, a rappro I'm gonna call a
Speaker 3: Chain one chain. But he was going, you know me,
Speaker 3: I'm a best ball DJ and I was drafting before
Speaker 3: the NFL Draft. He was going like sixteenth, seventeenth round.
Speaker 3: He now going not like eleventh, but he could go
Speaker 3: up higher. Yeah, you know, Jeff Wilson, Raheem, moster are
Speaker 3: still there, but they're they're not much of a threat. Yeah,
Speaker 3: for one Chain.
Speaker 4: The only thing that you're you know, like as far
Speaker 4: as his dint or his fantasy utility goes, is you
Speaker 4: have to mitigate Chain's touches. And if he's gonna get
Speaker 4: any as a return guy that needs to come out
Speaker 4: of the total and you're giving him, you have to
Speaker 4: protect that kid as far as his health goes, you know,
Speaker 4: by mad to getting that. But outside of that, it's
Speaker 4: a really good schematic fit.
Speaker 1: Can he catch well, he can catch okay, But like.
Speaker 4: They didn't just use him a ton as a receiver
Speaker 4: at Texas A and M, so some of that is unknown.
Speaker 1: I love to tank Bigsby, who was the next running
Speaker 1: back to go went to Jacksonville.
Speaker 5: That's a mediocre landing spot. I don't.
Speaker 1: I do believe that, all things considered, they'd like to
Speaker 1: have more of a two headed attack. They weren't able
Speaker 1: to get that with James Robinson last year's They just
Speaker 1: cut him and it really, you know, the backfield really
Speaker 1: turned into a one back situation with FTN. But I
Speaker 1: think Bigsby should have a role here and I think
Speaker 1: it's this year. I really liked his game. I totally
Speaker 1: agree with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the thing that you don't get with him,
Speaker 4: it's the receiving utility. Like even when they tried him
Speaker 4: with that at Auburn, he wasn't good at that. But
Speaker 4: here very skilled runner, one of the more skilled runners
Speaker 4: in this class, especially between the tackles and last year,
Speaker 4: you know, people looking at his counting SATs they're gonna
Speaker 4: discount him a little bit. You have to understand the context.
Speaker 4: Auburn's offensive line last year's stunk terrible. Their coaching staff
Speaker 4: was under fire. They eventually fired Brian Harrison during the season,
Speaker 4: and then the quarterback they were using with him couldn't.
Speaker 5: Throw his robe. Ash was just a good.
Speaker 4: Athlete, but like he couldn't throw, So defense didn't have
Speaker 4: to be concerned about the past game either. Tank Bixby
Speaker 4: was this mark man behind a bad offensive line.
Speaker 5: He's still produced.
Speaker 4: He's got really good vision, he has really really good
Speaker 4: contact balance, knows what he's doing, gets through those gaps,
Speaker 4: everything like that. As a short area grinder guy, for sure,
Speaker 4: you're gonna see that right away and you'll see eventually
Speaker 4: if he can be on the bellcoll with ETM. You
Speaker 4: don't need that right away, but yeah, he gonna factor
Speaker 4: in immediately charge you.
Speaker 3: You have to get your Snoop Connor tattoo removed.
Speaker 1: Now I know it says Snoop is dead. I think
Speaker 1: I think I think it's over for Snoop.
Speaker 5: The uh.
Speaker 1: What I love about Bigsby is you give that guy
Speaker 1: a little crease, and man, does he hit that little crease.
Speaker 1: Hard and he's through it and I'm like, wow, I
Speaker 1: did not think you were gonna get through there untouched,
Speaker 1: and yet there he is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he might he might lack the track speed, but
Speaker 4: he does not lack the the ability to hit the gas.
Speaker 4: The acceleration there for a big back and then obviously
Speaker 4: he converts that into power runs through the arm tackles.
Speaker 1: A guy, I believe you like a lot, ended up
Speaker 1: with the Chicago Bears, Roachan Johnson in Texas. Talk to
Speaker 1: me about him and his fit in Chicago.
Speaker 4: Rochean Johnson would have gone higher if he had gone
Speaker 4: to any other college. You know, Like he shows up
Speaker 4: at Texas as a quarterback. They ended up switching him
Speaker 4: to running back, right, and then he's stuck behind Bijon
Speaker 4: Robinson his entire career.
Speaker 5: Tough. He's a very good.
Speaker 4: Team like, you know, they'll rave about him as a teammate.
Speaker 4: You know, he also did the special teams and everything
Speaker 4: like that. But he's underrated as a runner just because
Speaker 4: we didn't get to see more reps of him doing that.
Speaker 4: His elusive rating, you just look at the per carry
Speaker 4: elusive rating on him was extremely high. The broken tackle
Speaker 4: thing he has athleticism two in the Big Package. One
Speaker 4: of the cool things about watching his tape is guys
Speaker 4: will try to dive bomb his knees when he gets
Speaker 4: into the.
Speaker 5: Second a third levels.
Speaker 4: He does that thing of jumping over him that we
Speaker 4: used to see Gronk do when they would do the
Speaker 4: same thing.
Speaker 5: I really like his talent level.
Speaker 4: We haven't seen him as much as a receiver yet
Speaker 4: because Beijeon got all that work. We do know that
Speaker 4: Rochon Johnson is a very good pass blocker. They would
Speaker 4: also use him as a lead blocker, sometimes in front
Speaker 4: of Jean, But you're getting that running.
Speaker 5: Utility between the tackles. Absolutely.
Speaker 4: You're also getting the pass pro which you're gonna keep
Speaker 4: him on the field. I expect him to be starting
Speaker 4: from day one in Chicago, and.
Speaker 1: I'm starting so ahead of Khalil Herbert.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh he's gonna dust Khalil Herbert. Wow. Yeah, you're
Speaker 5: gonna keep him in the dust.
Speaker 4: And Deontay foremant Deontay it's the same sort of skill
Speaker 4: Set's just deontay Foreman is not as good as Rochean
Speaker 4: Johnson is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rochan and uh A Chane, those two have seen
Speaker 3: the biggest spike in ADP post draft.
Speaker 5: And you can actually give him all the touches.
Speaker 4: And one other cool thing about him that was underrated
Speaker 4: about his profile is he doesn't have that tread on
Speaker 4: the tires as some of these other kids because of
Speaker 4: that situation, so you have a more fresh back as well.
Speaker 1: So the Jets end up with a frustrating landing spot
Speaker 1: to me, frustrating landing spot for is he a Bana Canda?
Speaker 5: Is it Conda or Avana Canda?
Speaker 1: A Banon Canda? Who a lot of people like. But
Speaker 1: the Jets you've got Reese Hall coming back from the
Speaker 1: a cl and then Michael Carter was a whatever, fourth
Speaker 1: round pick, fifth round pick a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: and did look good last year.
Speaker 4: I hated this landing spot for ezy bad landing spot.
Speaker 4: It felt like to me, very very bad landing spot. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he a Bancanna reminds me a lot of Tevin Coleman.
Speaker 4: It's the same sort of upright running style like a
Speaker 4: sprinter and that home run speed. If he can just
Speaker 4: get that laying down field, he could he could take
Speaker 4: it to the house every single time. Thing you wonder
Speaker 4: about him, it's the rest of the stuff the contact, balanced,
Speaker 4: different stuff like that, the fully fleshed out game. He
Speaker 4: leaves Pitt after he had that one dominant season last year.
Speaker 4: But the speed is for real, and that utility of
Speaker 4: hitting that crease and then getting forward is for real
Speaker 4: as well. I don't know how it's going to work
Speaker 4: out in that depth chart, but he's got talent.
Speaker 5: It's gonna I view him.
Speaker 1: I view Izzy as being somebody who dropped this year,
Speaker 1: and you sit on and see how this thing shakes
Speaker 1: out any year. I thought brees Hall looked great, great
Speaker 1: when he was healthy.
Speaker 5: I just I don't I just don't know how this
Speaker 5: thing factors in.
Speaker 1: Assuming Breeze Hall comes back relatively early into the season
Speaker 1: and it's such crowded backfield, I just don't know how.
Speaker 1: I don't see the I don't see the value in redraft,
Speaker 1: and I don't see a lot of dynasty either.
Speaker 5: Yeah. How minsol a round flyer in the ladder? For sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: How many teams carry four running backs unless ones like
Speaker 3: a elite special teams turn guy? And I don't think
Speaker 3: any of these guys are in the chess. Yeah, like
Speaker 3: one of them has to go. It almost seems like.
Speaker 1: I mentioned a few minutes ago, I was excited for
Speaker 1: a potential landing spot of Zach Sharbonay with Cincinnati that
Speaker 1: did not come to fruition, but eventually they did take
Speaker 1: a running back Chase Brown. This is not the guy
Speaker 1: I wanted to see in Cincinnati, but maybe you like
Speaker 1: him more than I do.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts in Chase Brown with knowing Joe
Speaker 1: Mixon look cooked last year? Yeah, the opportunity could be here.
Speaker 4: I'm not a big fan of Chase Brown, but it's funny,
Speaker 4: like I had him rated lower than most people in
Speaker 4: the media, but I had him one fifty six on
Speaker 4: my board.
Speaker 5: He ends up going one sixty three.
Speaker 4: So the NFL sort of saw him like guy that
Speaker 4: He's a straight line guy that got most of his
Speaker 4: production at Illinois running into the second and third levels
Speaker 4: on breakaway yards. But like the thing, he doesn't make
Speaker 4: anybody miss and he doesn't break a lot of tackles either,
Speaker 4: so that's something that sort of has to be manufactured
Speaker 4: for him.
Speaker 5: That's not good.
Speaker 4: It's like the same sort of utility like a guy
Speaker 4: like Rocki Moster.
Speaker 5: It's just he's not as athletic as he is.
Speaker 1: Chase Brown. The problem is going to be what you're
Speaker 1: describing right now.
Speaker 5: In the NFL. If you don't have some special.
Speaker 4: Trait that gets you out of tackles, you're dead. And
Speaker 4: he doesn't catch the ball either, and he also gets
Speaker 4: ragged all when he's trying to do pass pro, so
Speaker 4: he's not playable on third downs. It's literally just breakaway yards,
Speaker 4: which you can get more easily.
Speaker 5: In the Big Ten than you can in the NFL.
Speaker 3: So moral of that story is, Chris Evans, maybe you're
Speaker 3: sneaky Captain America and running back and people were expecting
Speaker 3: things from last year, never got it because some AJP
Speaker 3: Ryan stepped up big time. But he's gone.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just talk about a couple of guys that
Speaker 1: are in landing spots that I think only of dynasty value.
Speaker 1: Eric Gray goes to the Giants. Of course, they've got
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley on his franchise tag that so this could
Speaker 1: be his last year. Is there anything any reason to
Speaker 1: think Airic Gray is going to pay dividends next year
Speaker 1: for the Giants.
Speaker 5: I could see him doing it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like he has that well rounded skill set that
Speaker 4: Chase Brown lacks.
Speaker 5: Eric Gray is a really good receiver.
Speaker 4: You know, he's on the smaller side and he's not
Speaker 4: an elite athlete, but he can make you miss. He's
Speaker 4: very slippery, again, another thing that Chase Brown lacks. I
Speaker 4: like him more than I like Chase Chase Brown. And
Speaker 4: we'll see how it goes with the Giants depth chart
Speaker 4: going forward, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if
Speaker 4: he factored into the back backfield prominently.
Speaker 1: Dallas has a similar situation Tony Pollard on his franchise deal.
Speaker 1: They drafted duce Vaughan in the sixth round. He was
Speaker 1: a very polarizing running back. I saw people that liked
Speaker 1: him enough to be like fourth round, fifth round. Other
Speaker 1: people like I wouldn't draft him period.
Speaker 5: What were you?
Speaker 1: What's your take on duce Vaughan and a potential fit
Speaker 1: for Dallas, not necessarily this year, but going forward.
Speaker 5: I thought that Dallas was going to take a running
Speaker 5: back earlier in the draft. I did too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like with the depth chart what it was, and
Speaker 4: I don't know they were deferring to some of these
Speaker 4: other positions. They made some wonky decisions during the draft.
Speaker 4: They needed the tight end two they waited, and I
Speaker 4: think they took school maker in terms of that. But
Speaker 4: like Duce Vaughan, this is a really good landing spot
Speaker 4: for him. And obviously you have his father is working
Speaker 4: for the team as well, so you have that thing.
Speaker 4: But to me, he's that good or bad. Well, maybe
Speaker 4: it's good for his job security, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: It'll make the cut.
Speaker 3: He's a scout though, right, It's not like he's going
Speaker 3: to be hanging over his shoulder all day. It's not
Speaker 3: like he's a offensive Yeah. But for those who don't know,
Speaker 3: du s van, little guy like five, very very little,
Speaker 3: one seventy yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well into the combine five five one seventy nine.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like five five to five, very small.
Speaker 4: And he came out of Kansas State at the same
Speaker 4: school that produced Darren Sprawl. So that's right, he got
Speaker 4: some of those comps. But that that's a little above
Speaker 4: his impart. I think it's probably more a lot to
Speaker 4: say Tarik Cohn, yeah for him, Yeah, And I think
Speaker 4: he'll probably be used that way, and I think he'll
Speaker 4: get on the field as a rookie just situationally. But
Speaker 4: you're not going to give him a ton of touches
Speaker 4: right off the bat.
Speaker 1: No, I don't see duce Vaughan being even you know,
Speaker 1: you're notice I did not say he was a Zeke
Speaker 1: replacement because stylistically there's nothing alike, and this is the
Speaker 1: kind of player that very rarely is a fantasy factor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: last guy, I'm gonna mention left running back. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: mention the Vikings in the seventh round to Dwayne McBride,
Speaker 1: who I liked better than this the seventh rounder. And
Speaker 1: we know that Dalvin Cook is on super thin ice
Speaker 1: here with the Vikings and not expected to ultimately start
Speaker 1: the season with the team. I'm of the opinion that
Speaker 1: there's an opportunity for McBride to get real carries this year.
Speaker 5: Yes, I totally agree with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you're looking at the post Delvin world and
Speaker 4: it's Alex Maddison and Ty Chandler, and you put McBride's
Speaker 4: skill set in there, I think there's a shot there
Speaker 4: that McBride is the best early down bell call guy,
Speaker 4: or not bell call, but.
Speaker 5: Like early down behind your guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he certainly doesn't bring the receiving that the hands
Speaker 4: are the question there. UAB never used him as a
Speaker 4: wide receiver or you know, as a receiving option. He
Speaker 4: also fumbled a little bit. You know his his fumble
Speaker 4: rate is a little bit excessive. But if he can
Speaker 4: cut that down, all the skills as a runner are
Speaker 4: going to play. He runs fearless, he runs with power.
Speaker 4: He can make people mess and like when when guys
Speaker 4: are on the doorstep at him, he can change their
Speaker 4: angle so instead of it being a flushit it becomes
Speaker 4: an off angle one. He runs down at the arm tackles.
Speaker 4: You look at the PFF the last over their nine
Speaker 4: year charting history, there was only three guys that are
Speaker 4: two guys ahead of him in terms of missforced tackle
Speaker 4: rate miss over the tackle rate, Yes, which are by
Speaker 4: Jon Robinson and Javonte Williams. Dwayne number three all time
Speaker 4: on the PFF the last nine years in college foot Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now it's a round out running backs. Say, we're
Speaker 3: assuming Dalvin Cook leaves the Vikings charged. Do you envision
Speaker 3: the Vikings being candidates a candidate to sign like a
Speaker 3: cream hunt Leonard Fournette.
Speaker 5: No, not with you, not with McBride.
Speaker 1: And part of it is that much part of it
Speaker 1: is they they legitimately like ty Chandler even though he
Speaker 1: was inactive most of last year.
Speaker 5: They they they like that kit a lot, So.
Speaker 1: I really do think they're three deep at receiver running
Speaker 1: back now with Dwayne McBride, So I don't think.
Speaker 5: I don't think they're gonna add anybody.
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, all right, let's take a break. When
Speaker 1: we come back, let's talk through the notable wide receivers
Speaker 1: and tight ends that were in Day two and beyond
Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft. Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly Paul
Speaker 1: Charchie and Brian Johnson and special guest Thor Neistrom with
Speaker 1: us breaking down the Round two through seven players that
Speaker 1: you need to care about the rookies from the draft.
Speaker 1: We're not doing every single skill position rookie. We're doing
Speaker 1: the guys we think are worthy of mention. We've done
Speaker 1: the running backs, We've done the quarterbacks. Let's talk wide receiver.
Speaker 1: The first receiver taken in the second round, which was
Speaker 1: a bit of a surprise to me, was Jonathan Mingo
Speaker 1: going to the Panthers.
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jonathan Mingo tested better that more athletically than he
Speaker 4: acquits himself on the field. In my opinion, he doesn't
Speaker 4: move around as well as his athletic profile show it.
Speaker 4: He is an okay route runner though just in terms
Speaker 4: of the mechanics of it, he eve impressed me with that.
Speaker 4: At the senior ball, I knew he was going to
Speaker 4: rise between the frame between the athletic profile and then
Speaker 4: between how bad this class, right, But his play on
Speaker 4: the field just did not justify the slotter that he
Speaker 4: was taking him.
Speaker 5: But he's going to see the field early because of it.
Speaker 1: What do you think of the landing spot in Carolina Bryant,
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of competition there feelings on you
Speaker 1: know what is probably you know, the last year or
Speaker 1: two of his career and then Terras Marshall Jr.
Speaker 3: It doesn't bode well for Terrist Marshall. I think any
Speaker 3: host people were holding on to for him to be
Speaker 3: Fantasy relevant, Scott Fish is one of them. He was
Speaker 3: our biggest Terrorist Marshall supporter. But uh it, it could
Speaker 3: be worse. It could be a worse landing spot for Mingo.
Speaker 3: Like you guys, I was kind of shocked that he
Speaker 3: was What would this make him counting the first round
Speaker 3: the fourth wide receiver, fifth wide receiver. He was well
Speaker 3: outside the top ten wide receivers being taken on a
Speaker 3: you know, a redraft from a redraft standpoint before the draft,
Speaker 3: so a little bit of a chakra. But he, like
Speaker 3: Thorpe mentioned, just he's built like a he's a he's
Speaker 3: like a DK Metcalf type.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well he reminded me of Chase Claypool a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, another freak monster athlete exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if he hits his ceiling, that's what it'll be.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was just a little bit above his
Speaker 4: import for me. Where he got taken at thirty nine.
Speaker 1: Green Bay could have had their pickup every receiver in
Speaker 1: this draft when they went at fifteen. No, actually they
Speaker 1: traded at what thirteen, I don't know wherever they ended up.
Speaker 1: Middle of the first round they chose to pass on
Speaker 1: the position, and then in the second round, picked fifty,
Speaker 1: they went with Jaden Reid from Michigan State. I did
Speaker 1: not see them going here either, but that's the selection
Speaker 1: they made. What do you think about Jaden Reid's game
Speaker 1: and his potential to crack a thin wide receiver roster
Speaker 1: in Green Bay?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't believe that Jayden Reid is a top
Speaker 5: fifty packs.
Speaker 4: That's a function of the wide receiver class as much
Speaker 4: as anything this wide receiver class fell off a shelf
Speaker 4: after those top four guys, and that Bill Simmons has
Speaker 4: this concept of press box hot. I think Jayden Reid
Speaker 4: is the press box hot of this wide receiver class.
Speaker 5: I don't know what that means. What is press box
Speaker 5: hot thorn.
Speaker 4: It's someone who looks more attractive because there's a dearth
Speaker 4: of options, and in this receiver class, because there wasn't
Speaker 4: any options. Once he get past those top four that
Speaker 4: are super duper attractive, guys start to look attractive when again,
Speaker 4: in a regular class, they just would have been looked
Speaker 4: at as a Day three after thought, Yeah, that's what
Speaker 4: I thought about with Jayden Reid. He's under six feet,
Speaker 4: he's under one hundred and ninety pounds. He is not
Speaker 4: an elite athlete. I like his competitiveness at the catch point.
Speaker 4: He has made plays down the field and everything like that.
Speaker 4: And you do give him the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 4: that Michigan State had a poor quarterback play last couple
Speaker 4: of years and stuff like that, But yeah, he would
Speaker 4: not have been the guy that I would have chosen
Speaker 4: to develop there with the fiftieth pack.
Speaker 3: I had never heard of Jayden Reid before the draft.
Speaker 3: He was not getting drafted in any Best Ball drafts.
Speaker 3: I was doing seats. But now he Yeah, like you
Speaker 3: mentioned that, it's a pretty good landing spy in Green Bay.
Speaker 3: You're to compete with Christian Watson and Romeo Dubbs and
Speaker 3: that's about it.
Speaker 5: I wish it was Dubbs. It's Dobs.
Speaker 1: I've been made that mistake a million times because I
Speaker 1: wanted to be Dubbs. Becausedubs is way cooler than Dobbs.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it is. Uh, do you believe Jaden Reid
Speaker 1: has any impact in your one?
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I think they're probably going to try
Speaker 4: to start him in year one. But do I think
Speaker 4: he's going to be a stud? No, like their second
Speaker 4: round pick from last year. At least he has the potential,
Speaker 4: right like he had the athletic profile. You've seen it
Speaker 4: all in his college film at NDSU Christian Watson. But
Speaker 4: Jane Reed, I do think they're going to force him
Speaker 4: onto the field, and also because of how bad their
Speaker 4: receiving core is. But yeah, I'm not super ballish on
Speaker 4: him having a huge impact.
Speaker 1: The next receiver to go was to the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs that picked fifty five is it Raishi, Rashi Rashi
Speaker 1: is Rashi Rice. All right, well then we're gonna go
Speaker 1: with that as correct. Nobody will get mad at me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well the Rice family might, maybe they listen.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Rashi Rashi, Yeah, he said, Rashi Rashi Rice, tell me
Speaker 1: about his game?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, right from the starter at SMU, they were
Speaker 4: pounding that kid with targets. He had nearly four hundred
Speaker 4: receptions over his career at SMBA. He's won both in
Speaker 4: the slot and outside, and he's wonted all three sectors
Speaker 4: of the field.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: With the Chiefs, and they've mentioned this in some of
Speaker 4: their their comments after the draft, one of the things
Speaker 4: that they really like about is his game is the
Speaker 4: ability to go downfield. He's only six foot and a
Speaker 4: half I believe is what he measured at two oho four,
Speaker 4: but he has really long arms. He has arms more
Speaker 4: like a six to five guy, and he also has
Speaker 4: a vertical leap and he has ball skills down the
Speaker 4: field too. He one of those guys who doesn't get
Speaker 4: effected when a DB's trying to go through his back
Speaker 4: like for some receivers that's just the end of rep
Speaker 4: like on a touchdown field. Yeah, but it doesn't affect
Speaker 4: Rashie Rice at all. Some teams were reportedly concerned about
Speaker 4: his work ethic, different stuff like that. The Chiefs obviously
Speaker 4: were not. They were very aggressive with him. I like
Speaker 4: Rashi Rice's ability and potential more on the field by
Speaker 4: quite a bit than Jayden Reid.
Speaker 3: All Right, the question with any receiver on Kansas City
Speaker 3: is can they stand out on that team?
Speaker 5: We all know.
Speaker 3: Dravis Kelsey is essentially their number one wide receiver, but
Speaker 3: then you got marcz All, this Gantling, Kadarius, Tony sky Moore,
Speaker 3: Richie James, Justin Watson who they like, Justin Ross who
Speaker 3: didn't play last year but he's looking like he'll play
Speaker 3: this year. Would have been a top five wide receiver
Speaker 3: last year if not for the neck injury.
Speaker 4: Not for the injury, that is John Ross and me
Speaker 4: or Smith Marsette, even former Viking even he's not nothing
Speaker 4: to get too excited about.
Speaker 3: No, he's got a lot of people to compete with
Speaker 3: for targets here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he does.
Speaker 4: But also there's no like elite guys, right, so he
Speaker 4: could very quickly push his way to the top tier
Speaker 4: and as far as a perimeter option there and does
Speaker 4: stuff that they like. And Mahomes obviously can get the
Speaker 4: ball down field. I do think we're going to see
Speaker 4: him early on the field.
Speaker 1: Me Cole Hartman was a such a tantalizing talent and
Speaker 1: he had some real game breaking ability, but he could
Speaker 1: never he could never become a reliable receiver and a
Speaker 1: team that desperately needed one correct And I so I
Speaker 1: just don't think the landing spot for any receiver in
Speaker 1: Kansas City as great as it sounds and as open
Speaker 1: as this opportunity is for Russhee Rice, Racchie Rice, Rashie
Speaker 1: Rashie Rice. It doesn't automatically mean that he's going to
Speaker 1: take advantage of.
Speaker 4: You, No, it definitely doesn't. But he has the ball scales,
Speaker 4: for instance, that me Col Hartman lacks. But you know,
Speaker 4: obviously we seen last year they took Sky more than
Speaker 4: this ball skills he did, yeah, and he could win
Speaker 4: them both the inside and the outside, and they didn't
Speaker 4: trust him initially early on. So we'll see if Rashie
Speaker 4: Rice can win that trust from the coaching staff in camp.
Speaker 1: All Right, they got a couple others for you, wide
Speaker 1: receiver Marvin Mimms to the Denver Broncos. What's your take
Speaker 1: on Mims? No relation to Denzel, I assume career over
Speaker 1: Denzel Mims.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I love Marvin Mems. Marvin Mims was my
Speaker 4: fifth receiver. I like I had him, you know, forty eight,
Speaker 4: so I had him around where you know, my board
Speaker 4: where Jayden Reid. It ended up going Marvin Mims. First off,
Speaker 4: he is the all time leader in Texas high school
Speaker 4: football history and receiving yards.
Speaker 5: Jesus this day.
Speaker 4: Then he goes to Oklahoma and was awesome as a
Speaker 4: true freshman. The last two years his game was a
Speaker 4: little bit down on the surface, but you keep in
Speaker 4: mind the contexts there. Twenty twenty one, Spencer Ratler goes
Speaker 4: into a tank. Yeah, into the tank at the beginning
Speaker 4: of the season. Then then Lincoln Riley had his foot
Speaker 4: out the door. The rest of it wasn't the best
Speaker 4: offensive environment there. Then Lincoln Riley leaves for USC last season,
Speaker 4: they bringing Brent Venables.
Speaker 5: Their offense was a train wreck.
Speaker 4: But Marvin Mins, so he's a smaller kid, comes in
Speaker 4: five to eleven and a quarter one eighty three, but
Speaker 4: he won on the outside throughout his career at Oklahoma.
Speaker 4: He's also played in the slot, so you can do
Speaker 4: either one of those. But Marvin Mins, for being a
Speaker 4: smaller receiver, is a fabulous downfield receiver. The ball tracking,
Speaker 4: the ball skills downfield. His highlight reel of his best
Speaker 4: catches in college is the best in.
Speaker 5: This entire receiver class.
Speaker 4: He makes absolute circus catches and the downfield utility. Every
Speaker 4: single season he was on campus all three years, thirty
Speaker 4: five percent or more of his targets came twenty plus
Speaker 4: yards downfield. I really like that pick for Denver and
Speaker 4: I expect him to be starting next year.
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton was rumored to be on the trading block
Speaker 1: before this.
Speaker 3: Pick, and Jerry Judy, they've both kind of been on
Speaker 3: the block.
Speaker 1: Right Well, I think I think Judy's way, way, way better.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna hold Judy. I think Sutton could
Speaker 1: be moved and that would open up a spot for Mims,
Speaker 1: who needs on. Tim Patrick's there too, and Tim Patrick's
Speaker 1: proven himself to be a pretty.
Speaker 3: Good coming off major knee injury.
Speaker 5: That's a fair point.
Speaker 3: That was he will be a year move from that
Speaker 3: when the season starts, because that was a preseason injury.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a good spot. It could have been
Speaker 3: a better spot for Hims like Kansas City, right Denver?
Speaker 3: Denver not too bad.
Speaker 1: Houston is my favorite rebuilding team and I've really kind
Speaker 1: of emotionally back to the Texans right now. What do
Speaker 1: you think of the selection in the third round of
Speaker 1: Nathaniel tank Dell for the Texans.
Speaker 5: I like it. I like it.
Speaker 4: I'm just the only thing with that is is so
Speaker 4: tank Dell obviously has to be a slot receiver. He's
Speaker 4: the teeny tiny you know, it's one hundred and sixty
Speaker 4: pounds or so.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love him as a slot.
Speaker 4: Nobody could cover him one on one at the senior ball,
Speaker 4: which wasn't a surprise at all though those drills are
Speaker 4: tilted towards the offense, and nobody in college could cover
Speaker 4: tank Dell. And by the way, it wasn't just like
Speaker 4: in the G five. Every single Power five team that
Speaker 4: Houston played the last couple of years, tank Dell cooked them.
Speaker 4: And then when they faced Cincinnati the playoffs, Cincinnati team
Speaker 4: where they had Zas Gardner the two NFL safeties Kolbe
Speaker 4: Bryant on the other side of quarterback, tank Dell cooked
Speaker 4: them too. Tankt Dell cooks everybody, but he has to
Speaker 4: be a slot receiver in the NFL because of that frame.
Speaker 4: Then you look at Houston's roster. They'd taken John Menshi
Speaker 4: the year before, who obviously missed last season, but to me,
Speaker 4: he was a slot receiver. So are you looking now
Speaker 4: at John Mechi as an outside receiver? And then later
Speaker 4: on Houston takes a big manufactured touch slot in Xavier Hutchinson,
Speaker 4: who that's all he's ever done is just a manufacturer.
Speaker 4: What he did at Iowa State manufactured touches for him
Speaker 4: close to the line and let him let him run
Speaker 4: after that. So I don't know what they're doing on
Speaker 4: the boundary there, but yeah, Tank Dell should be starting
Speaker 4: in an NFL slot next year, and hopefully that is
Speaker 4: open for him in Houston.
Speaker 3: And the two main people that he'll be competing with
Speaker 3: for targets starters Robert Woods very well washed at this point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Don got a fork sticking out of him.
Speaker 3: Nico Collins good, not great.
Speaker 4: The other contextual thing I would say, and Tank like,
Speaker 4: if Tank del can win that starting slot, shop into
Speaker 4: your one.
Speaker 5: CJ.
Speaker 4: Stroud threw the ball of metric ton to the slot
Speaker 4: at Ohio JS that house he'll be looking for for
Speaker 4: Tank Dell.
Speaker 1: Is Tank Dell's game closer to Rondell Moore or you've
Speaker 1: got a comp of Hollywood Brown, Yeah, where what do
Speaker 1: you think? It's more those two are not very stylistic.
Speaker 4: It's more of the latter because Rondeo Moore or he's
Speaker 4: super explosive, but he's another one of those manufactured touch guys,
Speaker 4: right like, and we just don't know if he can
Speaker 4: win down the field whatnot.
Speaker 5: But no, we know he can't Rondelle more Field.
Speaker 4: I trying to give him the but like you know,
Speaker 4: in this case, like tant Dell, he wonted all three
Speaker 4: sectors of the field every single year he was at Houston,
Speaker 4: Like I think two of the three years he was
Speaker 4: at Houston he had PFF grades at every all three
Speaker 4: sectors of ninety or above, which is really good. And
Speaker 4: that's why I railed against the idea of like he
Speaker 4: was too too out well or something like.
Speaker 5: That, too to out well.
Speaker 4: At Louisville, it was just the manufactured touches short or
Speaker 4: else sent them on a fly route. Tank Dell can
Speaker 4: actually run routes and he shakes people every single time.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit two more receivers next. Jalen Hyatt was
Speaker 1: expected to go higher than this, and I didn't love
Speaker 1: him as like an early second round pick which where
Speaker 1: many people at him placed. But he drops to like
Speaker 1: I don't know, mid third round and he ends up
Speaker 1: with the Giant in which gives him a lot of opportunity.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Jalen Hyatt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, really good landing spot for him. The Giants were
Speaker 4: a team that we're thinking about the receiver in round one,
Speaker 4: then they watched the flour go right up off them
Speaker 4: right and then in a round two one of the
Speaker 4: guys they were considering in round one, John Michael Schmidt,
Speaker 4: who filled this enormous.
Speaker 5: Hole there as well. Perfect spot was available. It was
Speaker 5: a perfect spot for him.
Speaker 4: So because of that, they weren't able to pick the
Speaker 4: receiver earlier on even though they had a desperate need there.
Speaker 5: They take Jalen Hide here.
Speaker 4: Jalen Hyde is a one year Wonder one trick pony,
Speaker 4: but the trick is pretty cool.
Speaker 5: He can win downfield.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see him in the NFL,
Speaker 4: where Josh Hipel was able to move him around the formation,
Speaker 4: get him into advantageous matchups, like, for instance, when they
Speaker 4: were playing Alabama, Jalen Hyko matchup on DeMarco Hellms, a
Speaker 4: whole bunch of DeMarco Hellmes is a strong safety, like
Speaker 4: basically an extra linebacker. But like he got isolated in
Speaker 4: the coverage against Jalen Hyde.
Speaker 5: That's a bad combo right there.
Speaker 4: Jalen Hide had the ten yard head start to get
Speaker 4: to him and I was just like bye bye. So like,
Speaker 4: but in the NFL, he's actually going to have to
Speaker 4: beat people off of the line. They might press him,
Speaker 4: which never happened to him at Tennessee. But again, you
Speaker 4: do have that downfield utility just some of those other
Speaker 4: things he has to prove, but he has a clear shot,
Speaker 4: a clear path to playing time immediately in that receiving court,
Speaker 4: you think so well, I mean who else they got there?
Speaker 3: Well, they got like five other slot receivers is the problem. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: none of them are that great. But you know Paris Campbell,
Speaker 3: won Dale Robinson, Jameson Crowders, Charlie Shephard. It makes me
Speaker 3: love Darren Waller even more.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're kind of like the Texas.
Speaker 4: They both have more slots on a casino but like,
Speaker 4: but you know as far as high like yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: like you probably do have to play him in the slot.
Speaker 5: But he is the pop the top fella there.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about one more wide receiver already
Speaker 1: at what our longest offseason show of the year.
Speaker 5: But it was a loaded guy to talk to Josh.
Speaker 1: Downs just because what I loved about Josh downs despite
Speaker 1: the relatively small stature, dude's got the it factor. I mean,
Speaker 1: he wants to eat, just a battler going for balls.
Speaker 5: He's fearless.
Speaker 1: I liked Josh downs a lot, and I was a
Speaker 1: little surprised that he fell to the third mid third
Speaker 1: round in the Indianapolis Colt.
Speaker 5: I'm totally with you, charge. I love Josh Downes' game.
Speaker 4: Like you know, he gets the price point to flight
Speaker 4: it because he's not a boundary receiver. He's just a slot.
Speaker 4: He's just gonna be a slot in the NFL. But
Speaker 4: we know he's gonna be a good one. And immediately,
Speaker 4: like the last couple of years uns, he didn't really
Speaker 4: have any other skill guys, they were just pounding targets
Speaker 4: to Jess Jones.
Speaker 5: He converted all those. He's extremely efficient, his hands are
Speaker 5: really good.
Speaker 4: Take a look at the drop rate, take a look
Speaker 4: at the tape. The other thing I really like about
Speaker 4: him in terms of that you're working in an NFL slot,
Speaker 4: You're gonna be moving around a lot of garbage stuff
Speaker 4: like that, picking through traffic, whatnot. You're gonna have to
Speaker 4: catch the ball around other guys. Josh Downes is contested
Speaker 4: catch rate in college was awesome just in a vacuum,
Speaker 4: but particularly for a receiver that's five nine one seventy one. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's gonna show ISJAA McKenzie and whoever they got out
Speaker 4: of there right away, he will be their starting slot
Speaker 4: on day one.
Speaker 5: He will Paris Campbell gone. That opens up opens up
Speaker 5: another Isaiah.
Speaker 3: Isaiah McKenzie is who will be competing against in the slot,
Speaker 3: and he should beat him out. And downs was a
Speaker 3: guy who was going as the sixth seventh rookie wide
Speaker 3: receiver in three draft draft and I drafted a ton
Speaker 3: of them. People are down on him now because of
Speaker 3: the draft capital, but I'm averaging down in terms of
Speaker 3: like I'm still buying at a lower price. I love
Speaker 3: I love Josh too.
Speaker 5: I'm with you obviously.
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson will be throwing in passes and hopefully maybe
Speaker 1: this year, maybe next year, we'll find out more how
Speaker 1: that'll work out.
Speaker 5: With time.
Speaker 1: Thorn Ice from is our guest, Uh, what is your type?
Speaker 1: You have a title NFL Draft Analysts, college football analyst
Speaker 1: for fantasy pros, and.
Speaker 5: I like it.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about five tight ends beginning and
Speaker 1: again the one first rounders off the board.
Speaker 5: Dalton Kin kid it was not the was the first
Speaker 5: player taken. We talked about him last week.
Speaker 3: By the way, even more recently follow him, he was
Speaker 3: getting plus odds and Thor said he will be the
Speaker 3: first tight end taking.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: The Lions end up going tight end early in round two,
Speaker 1: a position of great need for them after they let t. J.
Speaker 1: Hutch Hockinson go, And by the way, they still threw
Speaker 1: to the tight ends, you know, the anonymous tight end.
Speaker 1: They still involved those guys, but they ended up going
Speaker 1: with Sam Laporta from Iowa, who was shockingly productive in
Speaker 1: an offense that couldn't do anything basically that didn't involve
Speaker 1: Sam Laporta.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, And like you mentioned, I mean, just
Speaker 4: about as bad of an offensive environment as you can
Speaker 4: come from. Last year, Iowa was one hundred and thirtyeth
Speaker 4: out of one hundred and thirty one FPS teams and scoring,
Speaker 4: they were terrible. Four players had. Individual players in the
Speaker 4: FPBS had more offensive touchdowns than the IOWA.
Speaker 5: Offense did last season. That's amazing, So it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 4: But the even crazier thing is if i WOUA didn't
Speaker 4: have Sam Laporta, they would have been the worst FBS
Speaker 4: offense in the history of FBS. Like they would manufacture
Speaker 4: all these touches to Sam Laporta and then just watched
Speaker 4: Sam Laporta break tackles. Last year he had twenty four
Speaker 4: Smiths tackles, which was the top five all time individual
Speaker 4: season during the PFF charting era of that nine years,
Speaker 4: like I mentioned before, and then also a first down
Speaker 4: and touchdown monster even on that terrible team. Two thirds
Speaker 4: of his catches the last two years win for either
Speaker 4: a first down or a touchdown. The agility and the
Speaker 4: strength is what stands out about him in conjunction.
Speaker 5: With each other.
Speaker 4: He's super agile along the route pass, so that's how
Speaker 4: he opens up the throwing windows for the quarterback. And
Speaker 4: then when he gets the ball in his hands, that's
Speaker 4: what makes him so good.
Speaker 5: After the catch.
Speaker 4: He's a yeah god for a tight end, and yeah
Speaker 4: he's going to be productive as a rookie for Detroit.
Speaker 3: Pretty good track record for Iowa, producing titles.
Speaker 1: No kidding Dallas, they know what they're doing there. In
Speaker 1: a different year, Sam Laporta would have been a first rounder.
Speaker 5: Yeah he could have been. Yeah, in a different offense
Speaker 5: for sure.
Speaker 4: Well that too, right, Yeah, he would have acquitted himself
Speaker 4: better for sure.
Speaker 5: So I agree with that.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the guy that everybody thought. You know
Speaker 1: all most of the mock drafts had Michael Mahyer going
Speaker 1: as the first overall tight end in this draft and
Speaker 1: in the first round. Many Adam Pegg going to Dallas.
Speaker 5: You didn't.
Speaker 1: He ends up with the Raiders. Is the Darren Waller replacement.
Speaker 1: Talk to me about Michael Mahyer.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The reason the NFL started deflated his value just a
Speaker 4: little bit is because he doesn't give you the receiving
Speaker 4: utility had the other two guys. He he ain't go
Speaker 4: downfield and get it like Dalton Kinka does. He doesn't
Speaker 4: create the separation like Dalton kin Kay does, and he
Speaker 4: doesn't have the run after the catch that Sam Laparta does.
Speaker 4: But what he has on both those guys is Michael
Speaker 4: Mayer is a true inline tight end who blocks his
Speaker 4: butt off and is really good at that. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: as a receiver, the thing you get from him, it's
Speaker 4: he catches the ball out to the intermediate area without
Speaker 4: creating the separation. But his special sauce is contested situations.
Speaker 4: And he's even talked about this in the media of
Speaker 4: like how he doesn't even care, like he actually wants
Speaker 4: to field the guy along his route because he wants
Speaker 4: to pin him to his back. And last year in
Speaker 4: Notre Dame they didn't have any other offensive skill guys.
Speaker 4: They're starting quarterback gets injured right away. They have this
Speaker 4: newd alarm scrambler that comes in Drew Pine to be
Speaker 4: the quarterback for the rest of this season. They forced
Speaker 4: a bunch of touches to Michael Mahyer and the defense
Speaker 4: new was coming. He got double team, he'd still come
Speaker 4: down with the catch.
Speaker 1: Packers needed a tight end badly, and they go to
Speaker 1: Luke Musgrave in the early second round. He's got an
Speaker 1: opportunity to walk right into that starting job.
Speaker 5: Yeah he does.
Speaker 4: It's funny when the Packers made that pick, I was like,
Speaker 4: you dopes, there's a better receiver tight end that's on
Speaker 4: the board right now, and then they took him around later.
Speaker 4: I think Tucker Kraft ends up having a better career
Speaker 4: for the Packers Luke musk Grave does. But Musgrave, he
Speaker 4: is a really interesting thought experiment. He barely you know.
Speaker 4: I think he had thirteen college starts or something like that.
Speaker 4: Last year was supposed to be his breakout season, but
Speaker 4: after two games he ends up getting hurt. For the
Speaker 4: rest of the year, we don't get to see him whatnot.
Speaker 4: He did play really well in those first two games.
Speaker 4: The thing you like most about him, it's the athletic profile.
Speaker 4: In that frame. He has shown to have an aptitude
Speaker 4: to go downfield and get it as well. But he's
Speaker 4: not good in the intermediate range, mostly because he doesn't
Speaker 4: have the agility with him. It's all the straight line
Speaker 4: line explosion, so he just doesn't have any nuance with
Speaker 4: with the route running stuff like that. He's not going
Speaker 4: to create the separation. He also doesn't break tackles. I
Speaker 4: told you guys last year Samu Laporte had twenty by
Speaker 4: himself in one season.
Speaker 5: Luke Musgrave over his entire career had two. That's it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's it.
Speaker 3: It's kind of It reminds me of how when the
Speaker 3: Ravens drafted Hayden Hurst and then took Mark Andrews rounds later, Right,
Speaker 3: they took a much better tight end.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: If I'm pairing it, I'm looking to pay a cheap
Speaker 3: tight end with a Jordan Love and a best ball stack.
Speaker 3: I like Tucker Craft more than a musk Grave.
Speaker 1: We'll just go right to talk. I'm gonna skip to
Speaker 1: Tucker Craft. Okay, let's do it. Let's go to Tucker Craft.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: He's the Packers also end up taking him. He is
Speaker 1: the farm boy from Minnesota that ended up playing at
Speaker 1: South Dakota State. He was highly productive there. Talk to
Speaker 1: me about Tucker Craft as the other option.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a six five kid, two fifty four, and he
Speaker 4: has a ninety seven percentile size adjusted athletics score, you know,
Speaker 4: during the pre draft process. And he was dominant at
Speaker 4: the FCS level too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The only thing you're disappointed about was last offseason around
Speaker 4: this time, a whole bunch of FBS programs. We're going
Speaker 4: to offer him a bag to go and transfer there
Speaker 4: or whatever with nil money. He wanted to stick it
Speaker 4: out and finish things with his teammates. You would have
Speaker 4: liked to have seen him for one year in the
Speaker 4: FSA proven that concept, because the only Nippick you can
Speaker 4: make about like him on film is he was so
Speaker 4: dominant and such an athleticis a manager all everybody like
Speaker 4: a lot of his catches, he already just blew by
Speaker 4: the guy and then he would just be an open
Speaker 4: space and then you just be trucking down the field whatnot.
Speaker 4: You wanted to see him against better athletes and then
Speaker 4: you look like the.
Speaker 5: Route running sort of nuanced with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't get to see that quite as much,
Speaker 4: but I mean the receiving skill was all there on tape.
Speaker 4: The athletic profile speaks for itself. I do think he's
Speaker 4: gonna be better than Musgrave in the NFL.
Speaker 1: You're gonna draft one of the two packer rookie tight
Speaker 1: ends for your dynasty team. Is it Luke Musgrave or
Speaker 1: is it Tucker Craft?
Speaker 5: For me? Tucker Craft? Easy, same.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna get him cheaper because people just look
Speaker 3: at the.
Speaker 1: Draft draft equity, right. Yeah, I'm on Tucker Craft's game.
Speaker 1: I think he's got way more upside, you know, just
Speaker 1: that Position's really hard to get fantasy producers out of
Speaker 1: your tight end position. But Tucker Craft has the upside
Speaker 1: to be a top five fantasy tight end in three years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't see it when I watch Luke Musgrave.
Speaker 5: Yeah I don't either.
Speaker 4: And a lot of this stuff with Musgrave it's you know,
Speaker 4: you would say it's projection, but really it's just a
Speaker 4: leap of faith because you've just never seen it before.
Speaker 4: So he has Musgrave has to stay on the field.
Speaker 4: He's also got the durability issues. So we'll see, I'll go.
Speaker 1: I didn't spend a lot of time on Luke shoon Maker,
Speaker 1: who ends up being the Dallas Cowboys tight end when
Speaker 1: everybody thought it'd be Dalton Kin Kate or some or
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Mayer. I don't know that much about
Speaker 1: his game. Who tell me about Luke Shoonmaker.
Speaker 3: I can tell you he's old as hell, right, like
Speaker 3: twenty six years old almost, he's about in twenty five.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So he goes to Michigan an another tight end factory.
Speaker 4: And the thing you like about him he plays inline.
Speaker 4: He's in line size and it was six five two
Speaker 4: fifty one and he blocks and he's.
Speaker 5: He's a good blocker. Yeah, but like he goes.
Speaker 4: I mean he opened people's eyes by going into the
Speaker 4: pre draft process ninety eight percentile size adjusted to athleticism. You
Speaker 4: didn't get to see that as much. Or Michigan because
Speaker 4: they just never used him as a receiver. So it's like,
Speaker 4: was Michigan who has a really smart coaching staff, where
Speaker 4: they miss using him by not using him more as
Speaker 4: a receiver or is he just not good at that?
Speaker 4: We only got limited looks there. You know, the other
Speaker 4: stuff speaks for itself. You know, you have the athleticism thing,
Speaker 4: but it seems like Dallas is sort of you know,
Speaker 4: a hope and a prayer as far as the rest
Speaker 4: of it goes. Because they missed out on some of
Speaker 4: those better Titans, or they reached for Schoonmaker over some
Speaker 4: of those guys. It's funny, my compound schoonmaker was Dalton Scholtz.
Speaker 4: Who's the reason that Yeah, right, he was taking because.
Speaker 5: He walked out the door.
Speaker 4: But like you know, as far as for fantasy people,
Speaker 4: it's just a total unknown that receiving utility. So even
Speaker 4: though I do think he's gonna play early, I just
Speaker 4: don't know how that's gonna project.
Speaker 1: A really disappointing landing spot for the final tight end.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Darnell Washington, the Big oh
Speaker 1: as they called him at Georgia. I loved the potential
Speaker 1: upside of Darnell Washington as a freaking beast. He's sixty
Speaker 1: seven or six foot I think he's six foot seven,
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy pounds.
Speaker 5: But with the with the ball in his.
Speaker 1: Hands, Darnell Washington is just shredding dudes. He's nimble, he's
Speaker 1: got catch radius. I'm like, what it took me a
Speaker 1: while to fire out why he didn't get more balls
Speaker 1: at Georgia until I found out how good brock bers
Speaker 1: is and how he's gonna be like a top five
Speaker 1: player next year. Talk to me a little bit about
Speaker 1: Darnell Washington tough land spot with the Steelers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sure is, and obviously they have an intention
Speaker 4: to go to more twelve personnel and whatnot. But yeah,
Speaker 4: you're behind Friarmuth as far as the first receiving tight end.
Speaker 4: And that's certainly what happened to him at Georgia when
Speaker 4: he was stuck behind Brock Bowers. Who's going to be
Speaker 4: the first tight end taking off the board in the
Speaker 4: next draft, right, And you know, like, if you're going
Speaker 4: to look at Darna Washington glass half full as a receiver, it's, oh,
Speaker 4: you know, he didn't get the extra utility because Brock
Speaker 4: Bowers on the roster. Eric Gilbert was active for a
Speaker 4: little bit as well. Who he was the number one
Speaker 4: tight end in his class. Yeah, but Darnall Washington, he's
Speaker 4: one of the better blocking tight ends who's come out
Speaker 4: in like the last decade. In fact, when he was
Speaker 4: coming out as a recruit, there was a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of blue bloods that wanted him as an offensive tackle to.
Speaker 5: Ball him up.
Speaker 4: I bet he played games in college at over two
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty pounds. I think he's in the two
Speaker 4: sixty four. That was like him on a diet. But
Speaker 4: he's going to be playing games around that in the NFL.
Speaker 4: The receiving utilities, it's the one thing that we just
Speaker 4: don't know. He put on a show during the pre
Speaker 4: draft process, but in college he only caught two balls
Speaker 4: to travel more than twenty yards in the air. Despite
Speaker 4: that having a lower aid dot, he had a drop
Speaker 4: rate over ten percent. So it's like, you know, if
Speaker 4: he's gonna be the intermediate safety blanket guy. He can't
Speaker 4: be dropping that many masses whatnot. But like, there just
Speaker 4: weren't looks manufactured for him. At Georgia, he was always
Speaker 4: the you know, the third fourth option on a play
Speaker 4: or whatever. In the NFL, can he prove anymore with that, well,
Speaker 4: we'll see.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But the blocking spiece for itself, it's what's gonna get
Speaker 4: him onto the field.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: I have some medicals too, right that they did that point.
Speaker 4: Medical different foot injuries last year and some teams were
Speaker 4: concerned about that potentially being a recurring thing.
Speaker 5: Yep. Reasonable.
Speaker 1: Darnell Washington though, a freaky upside if the receiving comes together.
Speaker 1: You've got Gronconian stature in Darnell Washington, and if it
Speaker 1: turns out he can be a reliable receiver, and it's
Speaker 1: you know, now, now it's I'm gonna go all Jelanie
Speaker 1: Woods on myself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have been a very sexy pick for
Speaker 3: the Jaguars if they took Washington.
Speaker 5: They took a tight end.
Speaker 3: Brenton Strange, We're not gonna talk about because I don't
Speaker 3: even know if he's a real person, you.
Speaker 5: Know, about it.
Speaker 3: I'm sure, Thor, but that would have been a fun
Speaker 3: pick for Jacksonville, Washington.
Speaker 5: There another guy, a strange pick.
Speaker 3: Yes, I see what you did.
Speaker 5: Very nice, Thor.
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Speaker 5: Hey, appreciate you.
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