WEBVTT - But wait, there's more!  Rookies from  rounds 2-7!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly

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<v Speaker 2>source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and

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<v Speaker 2>whatever stupid stuff they decide to drop into the show. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>here's your host, Paul Charchian.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I am Paul Charchian. I

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<v Speaker 1>have two co hosts today as usual. Brian Johnson, Hey, Brian.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Hey, what's up? No one cares about me?

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody cares not today, No, because we've got this is

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<v Speaker 1>your second time on the show, thor Thorney String. So

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to give an official affiliation or you

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<v Speaker 1>just Thorneiser nice drum.

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<v Speaker 4>We can go with thorneistrom but I work for Fantasy Pros,

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<v Speaker 4>but okay, call me all right.

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<v Speaker 5>Either way it works.

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<v Speaker 1>We're really glad to have you here because we spend

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<v Speaker 1>our fall as totally immersed in the NFL and then

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<v Speaker 1>we try to play catch up on the college guys

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<v Speaker 1>in February March April. Role you do this all year round.

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<v Speaker 1>You know so much more than we do, so perfect

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<v Speaker 1>to bring you in to talk about all of the

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<v Speaker 1>players that went after Round one. Last week's show. We

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<v Speaker 1>did Round one players. We recorded on Friday, so we

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<v Speaker 1>had all the Thursday stuff. I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the fantasy players who matter most that went to through seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this was was going to require a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>prep and the like. Let us get thork.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't have to do anything. I just go make.

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<v Speaker 3>Rookies exactly were hooked up today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, uh, I want to start the quarterback position. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>hit all the hit quarterbacks, running back to wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends. Again, we're not doing everybody, because you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be an enormously long, boring show. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to hit on the players who have the greatest chance

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<v Speaker 1>of making some reasonably close term impact. So let's start

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<v Speaker 1>at wide receiver as sorry, quarterback. And the first quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>taken after the first round was Will Levis, who surprisingly

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<v Speaker 1>fell out of the first round ends up at Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>as the possible.

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<v Speaker 5>Air apparent to Ryan Tannehill. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Will, he's gonna start number three on the depth chair.

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<v Speaker 4>We've already seen that. And there's a couple different things

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<v Speaker 4>with his game that he needs to fix. The biggest

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<v Speaker 4>one and the one that I'm most concerned about, it's

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<v Speaker 4>the lack of pocket presence, He doesn't sense the pass rushers.

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<v Speaker 4>That's something that they're going to use that developmental year

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<v Speaker 4>to try to fix with him.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll see if they they're.

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<v Speaker 4>End up being able to do that, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean it's going to take that year.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't expect to see him on the field in

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's critical for redraft. We don't think Will

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<v Speaker 1>loves plays this year.

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<v Speaker 5>But Tanhill's on the last year of his deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe will Lovis is the probable starter for

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee next year?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, in twenty twenty four, that's sort of what they're indicating.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I mean, I don't know. You're gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>to see what you got in him that this coming season.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, the thing that he has to fix it's

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<v Speaker 4>the exact same thing that I use to pick out

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<v Speaker 4>quarterback bus. It's the thing that Zach Wilson lacked. It's

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<v Speaker 4>the thing that Drew Locke act. They haven't been able

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<v Speaker 4>to fix it yet. Can you fix it with Will Levis?

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<v Speaker 4>If you do, he's going to be a good quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's a long bridge to get there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to disagree a little. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>chance we see him on the field this year, really,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's no longer it used to be the Titans

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<v Speaker 3>Division in the AFC South like they trounced they were

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<v Speaker 3>trounce the Jaguars, the Texans and who am I forgetting

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<v Speaker 3>Colts the Colts soon in recent history. But now it's

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<v Speaker 3>the Jaguars Division. And if you know the Titans go

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<v Speaker 3>Billy up come mid late November, well they not.

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<v Speaker 1>They effectively benched Ryan Tannehill last year, so you know

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<v Speaker 1>that scenario is out there. All right, Let's move on

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<v Speaker 1>to Hendon Hooker, the other, uh, the other the other

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback that was often mocked into the first round but

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<v Speaker 1>fell all the way to the third round.

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<v Speaker 5>He goes to Detroit.

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<v Speaker 3>What is the are getting mocked for taking into a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit?

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, at that point the value is pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>But people and and a year ago at this time

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<v Speaker 1>nobody believed that Jared Goff was the quarterback of the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Had a nice season and now people are more content there.

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<v Speaker 1>But what are your thoughts again, not this year for

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<v Speaker 1>Hendon Hooker, but long term dynasty value thor.

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<v Speaker 4>It's funny because all spring I railed against this idea

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<v Speaker 4>of Hendon Hooker as a first round pick. But it's

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<v Speaker 4>like Brian was mentioning where he fell to the Lions

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<v Speaker 4>in the draft. That's juice worth the squeeze in the spot.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right around where I had him ranked on my

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<v Speaker 4>big board. He's an older prospect coming in obviously he's

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<v Speaker 4>coming out the knee injury, so you're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>get any utility there from him as a rookie, right,

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<v Speaker 4>but the Lions are clearly looking at him as a

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<v Speaker 4>guy that they could potentially be the air apparent to

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<v Speaker 4>Jared Goff. You see when he comes back, the thing

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<v Speaker 4>he has to fix, well, it's not even fixed. It's

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<v Speaker 4>just some we've literally never seen before Tennessee offense. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not just that the field is cleved in half for you,

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<v Speaker 4>It's that he could square his shoulders in his entire

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<v Speaker 4>body to the side of the field that the play

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<v Speaker 4>is designed to go to. We have never seen Hendon

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<v Speaker 4>Hooker go to the other side of the field. He

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<v Speaker 4>predominantly threw to his first read. He knew what side

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<v Speaker 4>of the field he was going to, yep, And when

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<v Speaker 4>he has moved off of his spot, he doesn't throw ever.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was one hundred and fifty five times

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<v Speaker 4>last two seasons he was moved off his spot. In

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<v Speaker 4>those instances, he completed seven passes.

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<v Speaker 5>That's terrible. That is terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>So he has to learn how to process while he's

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<v Speaker 4>on the move. That stuff we just haven't seen before.

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<v Speaker 4>Can they teach him that stuff during this injury red

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<v Speaker 4>shirt season that's coming up? That will inform whether he

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<v Speaker 4>is their quarterback of the future.

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<v Speaker 3>If something were to happen to goff injury wise, not

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<v Speaker 3>that he's injury prone or anything. Hooker right now is

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<v Speaker 3>second on their depth chart. He would he be ready

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<v Speaker 3>injury wise to play?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 4>I would be surprised if he's back in active before

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<v Speaker 4>November's you know, that's when he suffered the injury. But

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<v Speaker 4>maybe he could come back by October. But why would

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<v Speaker 4>you want to throw him to the wolves when he

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<v Speaker 4>has never done these things that the NFL offense is

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<v Speaker 4>going to ask him to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you can throw them to the wolves so you

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<v Speaker 3>won't have to play Nate Sudfield or Suidfield or Adrian Martinez.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, Kansas State Wildcats.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course you would know that last thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll mention a Hooker in him possibly passing golf. We

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<v Speaker 1>act like Jared Goff's got one foot in the grave.

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<v Speaker 5>He's twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>If Jared Goff still got potentially like eight decade of

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<v Speaker 1>service ahead of him, Hendon Hooker got no interest even

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<v Speaker 1>in Dynasty for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, not for me either, I don't think and the

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<v Speaker 4>Lions love Jared Goff more than any other organization, like

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<v Speaker 4>they're higher on him for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I would expect Goff to be the start

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<v Speaker 5>of there for a couple more years.

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<v Speaker 3>Hooker was only three years younger.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's the point Saints took the next quarterback off

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<v Speaker 1>the board. I don't think Jake Hayn is worth spending

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<v Speaker 1>much time on.

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<v Speaker 3>But I admittedly never heard of the guy. But I

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<v Speaker 3>know Thor has.

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<v Speaker 1>Or get us up to speed on on Jake Hayn.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he was really good the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 4>for Fresno State. He couldn't get on the field early

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<v Speaker 4>in his career with Washington, so that's where he had

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<v Speaker 4>transferred and he did.

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<v Speaker 5>He did really, really good.

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<v Speaker 4>He also had a great senior ball and he did

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<v Speaker 4>great on that S two Test, which I know the

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<v Speaker 4>NFL cares about quite a bit. Now it's surpassed the

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<v Speaker 4>wonder lick whatnot.

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<v Speaker 5>So you have all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>He reminds you a little bit of rock perty from

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<v Speaker 4>the previous process where the things that he lacks is

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<v Speaker 4>stuff he can't do anything about. The frame, uh, just

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<v Speaker 4>sort of mediocre athletes, and then they have the wet

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<v Speaker 4>noodle arms. But they process the field really quickly. They

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<v Speaker 4>take profits, they don't make mistakes with the ball. Both

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<v Speaker 4>those guys are leaders. He's gonna run your offense for

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<v Speaker 4>you if he ever gets out there. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I could see him down the road coming in if

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<v Speaker 4>he has to be a caretaker.

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<v Speaker 5>Being okay with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Carr just signed a four five year deal,

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<v Speaker 1>So it feels like Hayn to me is just going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a back.

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<v Speaker 3>Car and hater both from Presdo state though.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's true, Yeah, all right, some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>advantages to that. The next quarterback taken was Stetson Bennett.

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<v Speaker 1>He ends up going to the Rams.

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<v Speaker 5>There's Stafford. We didn't even know I Stafford was going.

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<v Speaker 1>To play this year, right, He was so close to

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about retiring. Another bad year for him or another

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<v Speaker 1>injury field year. That could be it for Stafford. Does

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<v Speaker 1>Stetson Bennett have any game at the NFL level?

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<v Speaker 4>So I compare him to Ian Buck, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>just so, No, I don't think so, not for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he can process the field a little bit,

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, I mean you lack the free even more

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<v Speaker 4>than Jay Cayner does. And I don't know if he

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<v Speaker 4>processes as well as Jay Cayner does on the field.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was a really weird pick in round four.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, the last quarterback I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>also a round four guy where the Raiders taking Aid

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<v Speaker 1>and O'Connell. He I mentioned this only because Garoppolo so

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<v Speaker 1>wobbly as the starter. This could be a one and

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<v Speaker 1>done experiment with Garoppolo. In fact, I'm guessing it will

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<v Speaker 1>be a one and done experiment. I think the Raiders

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<v Speaker 1>will be at near the top of the draft order

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<v Speaker 1>and taking another quarterback at this time next year.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they definitely could be O'Connell. I like his pocket

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<v Speaker 4>game enough. He goes through the progressions for sure. He

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<v Speaker 4>did for Jeff Browms offense at Purdue. He's not athletic, though,

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<v Speaker 4>and he has arm limitations as well, so he's not

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<v Speaker 4>going to hurt the defense down the field. But he

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<v Speaker 4>does give you that short and intermedia area accuracy. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if he has the physical skills to

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<v Speaker 4>be a long term start in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pulling for fourth stringer Chase Garber's on the Raiders

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<v Speaker 3>depth start, just so we can say that it's Garber's

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<v Speaker 3>Garber's time.

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<v Speaker 5>I like it. Let's go to the running backs.

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<v Speaker 1>We already talked about the Day one running backs, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to the Day two running backs and beyond,

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<v Speaker 1>beginning with the shocking pick, not by talent but by

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<v Speaker 1>location of Zach Sharbonay did not see Seattle as a

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<v Speaker 1>landing spot here.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't either. Yeah, I love Zach Charbine.

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<v Speaker 4>Zach Shearbeney was actually my number two rated running back,

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<v Speaker 4>just slightly ahead of Jamior Gives. So like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>gonna disagree with the talent at all, but the landing spot, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>was super weird. And you take Kenneth Walker to the

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<v Speaker 4>Brown two the year before, now you take Sharboney. They

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<v Speaker 4>explained it after the pick of saying like, oh, we

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<v Speaker 4>needed to improve our screen game. And I do agree

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<v Speaker 4>that Zach Scharbenney was a super underrated receiver. He averaged

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<v Speaker 4>nearly ten yards after the catch in college. But you're

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<v Speaker 4>not just gonna draft the guy to be a screen

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<v Speaker 4>game guy.

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<v Speaker 5>No, not in the second round.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's real weird. They obviously like Charbeney's game. I

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<v Speaker 4>really like Charbonnay's game too, so I get it on

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<v Speaker 4>that front. But how is that going to work out

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<v Speaker 4>with him and Kenneth Walker at the start?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he fantasy. It's a nightmare. You could hear the

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<v Speaker 3>cl have grown across the country when Charbonnaye got picked.

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<v Speaker 1>As the Kenneth Walker dynasty owners like, oh, you're kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>And charbonne whoever already had their draft or was planning

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<v Speaker 3>on drafting him at the potential of being a lead back,

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<v Speaker 3>that seems like the most platoony platoon there's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be in the NFL right now. Screen game Kenny McIntosh

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<v Speaker 3>running back they took in the seventh round. Granted, not

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of draft capital there, but he's like a

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<v Speaker 3>receiving special screen guy.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's the one thing he done.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll do the backfield in Seattle disaster.

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<v Speaker 5>Very weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I had hoped that Charbonne would find his way to Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>That did not happen, but we'll talk about We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Cincinnati and where they went in a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question on Zach Charbonay for you the balls at

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<v Speaker 1>the three yard line, who's getting the carry?

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think it's going to be Zach Charbonay.

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<v Speaker 4>I do too perfectly for it, right, Yeah, he's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he's top fifteen or even top ten in the nation

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<v Speaker 4>last year, an elusive rating, and certainly he wasn't and

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<v Speaker 4>broken tackles for us, So I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be sharpinnet.

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<v Speaker 1>Third round, the Saints went with Kendray Miller. Now, what's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting about the Saints, You know, with Alvin Kamara's play

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<v Speaker 1>has dropped off a lot last year, especially year before that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and he's been used a variety of different ways,

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<v Speaker 1>never been really a goal line guy. And then all

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<v Speaker 1>the legal troubles surrounding Alvin Kamara as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Here it comes Kendray Miller.

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<v Speaker 1>How quickly do you think he gets up to speed

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<v Speaker 1>and is a factor in this offense.

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<v Speaker 4>They're going to try to push him up there. They

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<v Speaker 4>believe in Kendrey Miller more than I do. I had

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<v Speaker 4>him one hundred and forty seventh on my big boardy

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<v Speaker 4>seventy first. Okay, it's like he has a well rounded game,

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<v Speaker 4>but he's not elite at anything, So like I you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I guess there's some of those parts

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<v Speaker 4>the Saints liked a little bit more than me. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>just because of the draft capital, he's going to get

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<v Speaker 4>looks early on and we'll see how it works out

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<v Speaker 4>with Kamara and those other guys whatnot. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't as big of a believer in the talent set.

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<v Speaker 5>I was shocked that.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't go with spears or a chain or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the other tank bigsby who all Roshawn Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked all those guys more than I like Henry Miller.

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<v Speaker 5>Surely I was. I was surprised by the selection there.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem with Miller and Kamara is Jamal Williams is

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<v Speaker 3>now in New Orleans, who had the all time touchdown

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<v Speaker 3>vulture season last year with the Lions. So yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>seems like a nice landing spot for Miller, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>not as nice as it appears with Williams there now.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Tennessee a lot of people thought Tennessee would

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<v Speaker 1>go running back at some point because we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the rumors them trying to move Derrick Henry and

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<v Speaker 1>we know Henry is in what is probably the final

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<v Speaker 1>core tile of his career. They ended up going stylistically

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<v Speaker 1>pretty far from where Derrick Henry is.

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<v Speaker 5>With taj Spears, they sure did.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, taj Spears is one of my favorite players in

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<v Speaker 4>this draft class.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a home run hitter and he reminds me a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of a guy ironically that went in the first

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<v Speaker 4>round a couple of years ago, Travis etn. Yeah, their

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<v Speaker 4>games are so similar. It's all about the birds, the acceleration,

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<v Speaker 4>and then when they get out into space, it's like

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<v Speaker 4>they sensed the guys around them or whatever and then

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<v Speaker 4>they can you know, both didn't know what that, but

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<v Speaker 4>also set him up with the one cut change of

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<v Speaker 4>direction everything like that. Uh, A little bit surprised he

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<v Speaker 4>fell to way he did, except with you give the

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<v Speaker 4>context of his medicals. There were some teams that maybe

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<v Speaker 4>ding them a little bit on their board because he

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<v Speaker 4>has two knee injuries in the past.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the one question with Tajay Spears.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you get the receiving utility with

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<v Speaker 4>him as much as well.

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<v Speaker 5>We did see it the senior bow.

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<v Speaker 4>He was better at that than we thought he would be,

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<v Speaker 4>just because Tulane didn't use him as that right, But

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<v Speaker 4>he was shaking guys in the one on ones in

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<v Speaker 4>the route and showed soft hands as well, So maybe

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<v Speaker 4>he can give him some some receiving utility there. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean what what he really brings your offense, It's

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<v Speaker 4>that explosive element hitting the home runs.

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<v Speaker 3>To go a little deeper in the medicals. Two torn

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<v Speaker 3>acls in the past. At the combine test revealed a

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<v Speaker 3>full thickness cartilage loss. Yeah, no ACL in his knee.

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<v Speaker 5>That is a huge worry for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Additionally, Spears has arthritis. Yes, two years old.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean thor you know, you know I for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of concern about Spears like long

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<v Speaker 1>term dynasty value because I'm worried this could be a

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<v Speaker 1>short career for him. You know, three four years later

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<v Speaker 1>this might be it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it could be.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I'm on team no give this second contract

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<v Speaker 4>to the running backs.

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<v Speaker 5>So like for me, it never matters.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, as long as you get the utility out of

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<v Speaker 4>him during that rookie contract, And one thing that behooved

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<v Speaker 4>me about him was that last season, he plays the

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<v Speaker 4>entire season, doesn't get hurt, and got better and better

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<v Speaker 4>and better as the season went along, shredded USC in

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<v Speaker 4>the ballgame, shredded UCF and the AC title game. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>do I think he's gonna have a super long career

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<v Speaker 4>in the NFL. No, it's not because of the skill.

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<v Speaker 4>It's because of those knees, all right, So how.

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<v Speaker 1>Quickly can tij Spears make an impact in the Tennessee offense?

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<v Speaker 5>In your mind?

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<v Speaker 1>With Derek Henry still there and presumably the lead back.

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<v Speaker 4>They will work him in situationally, absolutely as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 4>Like the talent is such with him as a runner

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<v Speaker 4>that he has to be on the field situationally.

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<v Speaker 5>So they're gonna have to figure out some way.

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<v Speaker 4>To do that, and you can mitigate Henry's touches a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit through that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go to yes real quick, would you deeper dynasty leagues?

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<v Speaker 3>People know Hassan Haskins, Yeah, who the Titans drafted in

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<v Speaker 3>the fourth round last year, put some decent draft capital

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<v Speaker 3>into him. But is this kill shot for Haskins.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's gotta be. It's gotta be, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm cutting them in our empire.

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<v Speaker 5>I think again, I think that's it for Haskins.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's go to Miami, uh where the player who

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<v Speaker 1>gets into the best possible landing spot is Devon a

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<v Speaker 1>Chain And I think I pronounced that right.

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<v Speaker 5>It's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be something to fight all for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of his career. So the Dolphins end up with the

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<v Speaker 1>fastest running back in this draft.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, faster than Tyreek Hill.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and a guy that is totally in line with

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<v Speaker 4>the McDaniel and the San Francisco forty nine ers Tree, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Like those are just the running backs that they're attracted to.

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<v Speaker 4>In that sense of it, I agree with that absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>Od Chain reminded me of joab at Best, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the kid who would come out of another first round guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Way back in the day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it's the same sort of thing with I

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<v Speaker 4>change the thing that I like about him. Typically we

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<v Speaker 4>associate with those smaller sub threshold backs. He weighed in

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<v Speaker 4>was a one hundred and eighty eight pounds at the combine.

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<v Speaker 4>They're dancers, you know, They're guys that want to dance

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<v Speaker 4>around and make you miss. Chain is not at all

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<v Speaker 4>like he wants to get on a straight line. He

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<v Speaker 4>is an arrow pointer at the goal line every time

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<v Speaker 4>he gets the ball, so and that really stresses the

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<v Speaker 4>defense because the angles start getting a race one by

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<v Speaker 4>one if he has that straight line. But yeah, it'll

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<v Speaker 4>be interesting to see how he gets mixed in with

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<v Speaker 4>the other Dolphins running backs. But they will definitely be

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<v Speaker 4>using him as a rookie.

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<v Speaker 3>We know two chains, a rappro I'm gonna call a

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<v Speaker 3>Chain one chain. But he was going, you know me,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a best ball DJ and I was drafting before

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL Draft. He was going like sixteenth, seventeenth round.

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<v Speaker 3>He now going not like eleventh, but he could go

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<v Speaker 3>up higher. Yeah, you know, Jeff Wilson, Raheem, moster are

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<v Speaker 3>still there, but they're they're not much of a threat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>for one Chain.

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<v Speaker 4>The only thing that you're you know, like as far

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<v Speaker 4>as his dint or his fantasy utility goes, is you

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<v Speaker 4>have to mitigate Chain's touches. And if he's gonna get

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<v Speaker 4>any as a return guy that needs to come out

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<v Speaker 4>of the total and you're giving him, you have to

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<v Speaker 4>protect that kid as far as his health goes, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>by mad to getting that. But outside of that, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a really good schematic fit.

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<v Speaker 1>Can he catch well, he can catch okay, But like.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't just use him a ton as a receiver

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<v Speaker 4>at Texas A and M, so some of that is unknown.

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<v Speaker 1>I love to tank Bigsby, who was the next running

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<v Speaker 1>back to go went to Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a mediocre landing spot. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe that, all things considered, they'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>have more of a two headed attack. They weren't able

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<v Speaker 1>to get that with James Robinson last year's They just

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<v Speaker 1>cut him and it really, you know, the backfield really

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<v Speaker 1>turned into a one back situation with FTN. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think Bigsby should have a role here and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's this year. I really liked his game. I totally

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<v Speaker 1>agree with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean the thing that you don't get with him,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the receiving utility. Like even when they tried him

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<v Speaker 4>with that at Auburn, he wasn't good at that. But

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<v Speaker 4>here very skilled runner, one of the more skilled runners

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<v Speaker 4>in this class, especially between the tackles and last year,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, people looking at his counting SATs they're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>discount him a little bit. You have to understand the context.

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<v Speaker 4>Auburn's offensive line last year's stunk terrible. Their coaching staff

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<v Speaker 4>was under fire. They eventually fired Brian Harrison during the season,

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<v Speaker 4>and then the quarterback they were using with him couldn't.

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<v Speaker 5>Throw his robe. Ash was just a good.

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<v Speaker 4>Athlete, but like he couldn't throw, So defense didn't have

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<v Speaker 4>to be concerned about the past game either. Tank Bixby

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<v Speaker 4>was this mark man behind a bad offensive line.

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<v Speaker 5>He's still produced.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got really good vision, he has really really good

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<v Speaker 4>contact balance, knows what he's doing, gets through those gaps,

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<v Speaker 4>everything like that. As a short area grinder guy, for sure,

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna see that right away and you'll see eventually

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<v Speaker 4>if he can be on the bellcoll with ETM. You

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<v Speaker 4>don't need that right away, but yeah, he gonna factor

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<v Speaker 4>in immediately charge you.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to get your Snoop Connor tattoo removed.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I know it says Snoop is dead. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think it's over for Snoop.

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<v Speaker 5>The uh.

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<v Speaker 1>What I love about Bigsby is you give that guy

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<v Speaker 1>a little crease, and man, does he hit that little crease.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard and he's through it and I'm like, wow, I

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<v Speaker 1>did not think you were gonna get through there untouched,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet there he is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he might he might lack the track speed, but

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<v Speaker 4>he does not lack the the ability to hit the gas.

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<v Speaker 4>The acceleration there for a big back and then obviously

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<v Speaker 4>he converts that into power runs through the arm tackles.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy, I believe you like a lot, ended up

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<v Speaker 1>with the Chicago Bears, Roachan Johnson in Texas. Talk to

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<v Speaker 1>me about him and his fit in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 4>Rochean Johnson would have gone higher if he had gone

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<v Speaker 4>to any other college. You know, Like he shows up

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<v Speaker 4>at Texas as a quarterback. They ended up switching him

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<v Speaker 4>to running back, right, and then he's stuck behind Bijon

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<v Speaker 4>Robinson his entire career.

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<v Speaker 5>Tough. He's a very good.

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<v Speaker 4>Team like, you know, they'll rave about him as a teammate.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he also did the special teams and everything

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<v Speaker 4>like that. But he's underrated as a runner just because

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't get to see more reps of him doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>His elusive rating, you just look at the per carry

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<v Speaker 4>elusive rating on him was extremely high. The broken tackle

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<v Speaker 4>thing he has athleticism two in the Big Package. One

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<v Speaker 4>of the cool things about watching his tape is guys

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<v Speaker 4>will try to dive bomb his knees when he gets

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<v Speaker 4>into the.

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<v Speaker 5>Second a third levels.

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<v Speaker 4>He does that thing of jumping over him that we

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<v Speaker 4>used to see Gronk do when they would do the

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<v Speaker 4>same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I really like his talent level.

0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:58.760
<v Speaker 4>We haven't seen him as much as a receiver yet

0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:01.000
<v Speaker 4>because Beijeon got all that work. We do know that

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<v Speaker 4>Rochon Johnson is a very good pass blocker. They would

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<v Speaker 4>also use him as a lead blocker, sometimes in front

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<v Speaker 4>of Jean, But you're getting that running.

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<v Speaker 5>Utility between the tackles. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>You're also getting the pass pro which you're gonna keep

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<v Speaker 4>him on the field. I expect him to be starting

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<v Speaker 4>from day one in Chicago, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting so ahead of Khalil Herbert.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Oh he's gonna dust Khalil Herbert. Wow. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna keep him in the dust.

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<v Speaker 4>And Deontay foremant Deontay it's the same sort of skill

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<v Speaker 4>Set's just deontay Foreman is not as good as Rochean

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<v Speaker 4>Johnson is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Rochan and uh A Chane, those two have seen

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest spike in ADP post draft.

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<v Speaker 5>And you can actually give him all the touches.

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<v Speaker 4>And one other cool thing about him that was underrated

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<v Speaker 4>about his profile is he doesn't have that tread on

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<v Speaker 4>the tires as some of these other kids because of

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<v Speaker 4>that situation, so you have a more fresh back as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Jets end up with a frustrating landing spot

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<v Speaker 1>to me, frustrating landing spot for is he a Bana Canda?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it Conda or Avana Canda?

0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:59.159
<v Speaker 1>A Banon Canda? Who a lot of people like. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets you've got Reese Hall coming back from the

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<v Speaker 1>a cl and then Michael Carter was a whatever, fourth

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<v Speaker 1>round pick, fifth round pick a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 1>and did look good last year.

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<v Speaker 4>I hated this landing spot for ezy bad landing spot.

0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:13.960
<v Speaker 4>It felt like to me, very very bad landing spot. Yeah,

0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:16.880
<v Speaker 4>he a Bancanna reminds me a lot of Tevin Coleman.

0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.320
<v Speaker 4>It's the same sort of upright running style like a

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<v Speaker 4>sprinter and that home run speed. If he can just

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<v Speaker 4>get that laying down field, he could he could take

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<v Speaker 4>it to the house every single time. Thing you wonder

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<v Speaker 4>about him, it's the rest of the stuff the contact, balanced,

0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.200
<v Speaker 4>different stuff like that, the fully fleshed out game. He

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<v Speaker 4>leaves Pitt after he had that one dominant season last year.

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<v Speaker 4>But the speed is for real, and that utility of

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<v Speaker 4>hitting that crease and then getting forward is for real

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<v Speaker 4>as well. I don't know how it's going to work

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<v Speaker 4>out in that depth chart, but he's got talent.

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<v Speaker 5>It's gonna I view him.

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<v Speaker 1>I view Izzy as being somebody who dropped this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and you sit on and see how this thing shakes

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<v Speaker 1>out any year. I thought brees Hall looked great, great

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<v Speaker 1>when he was healthy.

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<v Speaker 5>I just I don't I just don't know how this

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<v Speaker 5>thing factors in.

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<v Speaker 1>Assuming Breeze Hall comes back relatively early into the season

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<v Speaker 1>and it's such crowded backfield, I just don't know how.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see the I don't see the value in redraft,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't see a lot of dynasty either.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. How minsol a round flyer in the ladder? For sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>How many teams carry four running backs unless ones like

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<v Speaker 3>a elite special teams turn guy? And I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>any of these guys are in the chess. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 3>one of them has to go. It almost seems like.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned a few minutes ago, I was excited for

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<v Speaker 1>a potential landing spot of Zach Sharbonay with Cincinnati that

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<v Speaker 1>did not come to fruition, but eventually they did take

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<v Speaker 1>a running back Chase Brown. This is not the guy

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to see in Cincinnati, but maybe you like

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<v Speaker 1>him more than I do.

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<v Speaker 3>You.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts in Chase Brown with knowing Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Mixon look cooked last year? Yeah, the opportunity could be here.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not a big fan of Chase Brown, but it's funny,

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<v Speaker 4>like I had him rated lower than most people in

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<v Speaker 4>the media, but I had him one fifty six on

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<v Speaker 4>my board.

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<v Speaker 5>He ends up going one sixty three.

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<v Speaker 4>So the NFL sort of saw him like guy that

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<v Speaker 4>He's a straight line guy that got most of his

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<v Speaker 4>production at Illinois running into the second and third levels

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<v Speaker 4>on breakaway yards. But like the thing, he doesn't make

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<v Speaker 4>anybody miss and he doesn't break a lot of tackles either,

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<v Speaker 4>so that's something that sort of has to be manufactured

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<v Speaker 4>for him.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not good.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like the same sort of utility like a guy

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<v Speaker 4>like Rocki Moster.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just he's not as athletic as he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Brown. The problem is going to be what you're

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<v Speaker 1>describing right now.

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<v Speaker 5>In the NFL. If you don't have some special.

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<v Speaker 4>Trait that gets you out of tackles, you're dead. And

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't catch the ball either, and he also gets

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<v Speaker 4>ragged all when he's trying to do pass pro, so

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<v Speaker 4>he's not playable on third downs. It's literally just breakaway yards,

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<v Speaker 4>which you can get more easily.

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<v Speaker 5>In the Big Ten than you can in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>So moral of that story is, Chris Evans, maybe you're

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<v Speaker 3>sneaky Captain America and running back and people were expecting

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<v Speaker 3>things from last year, never got it because some AJP

0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Ryan stepped up big time. But he's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna just talk about a couple of guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are in landing spots that I think only of dynasty value.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Gray goes to the Giants. Of course, they've got

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<v Speaker 1>Saquon Barkley on his franchise tag that so this could

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<v Speaker 1>be his last year. Is there anything any reason to

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<v Speaker 1>think Airic Gray is going to pay dividends next year

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<v Speaker 1>for the Giants.

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<v Speaker 5>I could see him doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like he has that well rounded skill set that

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<v Speaker 4>Chase Brown lacks.

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<v Speaker 5>Eric Gray is a really good receiver.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he's on the smaller side and he's not

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<v Speaker 4>an elite athlete, but he can make you miss. He's

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<v Speaker 4>very slippery, again, another thing that Chase Brown lacks. I

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<v Speaker 4>like him more than I like Chase Chase Brown. And

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<v Speaker 4>we'll see how it goes with the Giants depth chart

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<v Speaker 4>going forward, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if

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<v Speaker 4>he factored into the back backfield prominently.

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas has a similar situation Tony Pollard on his franchise deal.

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<v Speaker 1>They drafted duce Vaughan in the sixth round. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a very polarizing running back. I saw people that liked

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<v Speaker 1>him enough to be like fourth round, fifth round. Other

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<v Speaker 1>people like I wouldn't draft him period.

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<v Speaker 5>What were you?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your take on duce Vaughan and a potential fit

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<v Speaker 1>for Dallas, not necessarily this year, but going forward.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought that Dallas was going to take a running

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<v Speaker 5>back earlier in the draft. I did too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like with the depth chart what it was, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know they were deferring to some of these

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<v Speaker 4>other positions. They made some wonky decisions during the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>They needed the tight end two they waited, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think they took school maker in terms of that. But

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<v Speaker 4>like Duce Vaughan, this is a really good landing spot

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<v Speaker 4>for him. And obviously you have his father is working

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:05.400
<v Speaker 4>for the team as well, so you have that thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But to me, he's that good or bad. Well, maybe

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 4>it's good for his job security, right, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>It'll make the cut.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a scout though, right, It's not like he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be hanging over his shoulder all day. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>like he's a offensive Yeah. But for those who don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>du s van, little guy like five, very very little,

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<v Speaker 3>one seventy yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well into the combine five five one seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but like five five to five, very small.

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<v Speaker 4>And he came out of Kansas State at the same

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<v Speaker 4>school that produced Darren Sprawl. So that's right, he got

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<v Speaker 4>some of those comps. But that that's a little above

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 4>his impart. I think it's probably more a lot to

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<v Speaker 4>say Tarik Cohn, yeah for him, Yeah, And I think

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<v Speaker 4>he'll probably be used that way, and I think he'll

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<v Speaker 4>get on the field as a rookie just situationally. But

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 4>you're not going to give him a ton of touches

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<v Speaker 4>right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't see duce Vaughan being even you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're notice I did not say he was a Zeke

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<v Speaker 1>replacement because stylistically there's nothing alike, and this is the

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:03.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of player that very rarely is a fantasy factor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>last guy, I'm gonna mention left running back. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>mention the Vikings in the seventh round to Dwayne McBride,

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<v Speaker 1>who I liked better than this the seventh rounder. And

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<v Speaker 1>we know that Dalvin Cook is on super thin ice

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<v Speaker 1>here with the Vikings and not expected to ultimately start

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<v Speaker 1>the season with the team. I'm of the opinion that

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<v Speaker 1>there's an opportunity for McBride to get real carries this year.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I totally agree with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because you're looking at the post Delvin world and

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 4>it's Alex Maddison and Ty Chandler, and you put McBride's

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<v Speaker 4>skill set in there, I think there's a shot there

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 4>that McBride is the best early down bell call guy,

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 4>or not bell call, but.

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 5>Like early down behind your guy.

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he certainly doesn't bring the receiving that the hands

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 4>are the question there. UAB never used him as a

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<v Speaker 4>wide receiver or you know, as a receiving option. He

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<v Speaker 4>also fumbled a little bit. You know his his fumble

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.400
<v Speaker 4>rate is a little bit excessive. But if he can

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<v Speaker 4>cut that down, all the skills as a runner are

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<v Speaker 4>going to play. He runs fearless, he runs with power.

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<v Speaker 4>He can make people mess and like when when guys

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 4>are on the doorstep at him, he can change their

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 4>angle so instead of it being a flushit it becomes

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 4>an off angle one. He runs down at the arm tackles.

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 4>You look at the PFF the last over their nine

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 4>year charting history, there was only three guys that are

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 4>two guys ahead of him in terms of missforced tackle

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 4>rate miss over the tackle rate, Yes, which are by

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 4>Jon Robinson and Javonte Williams. Dwayne number three all time

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 4>on the PFF the last nine years in college foot Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now it's a round out running backs. Say, we're

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<v Speaker 3>assuming Dalvin Cook leaves the Vikings charged. Do you envision

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 3>the Vikings being candidates a candidate to sign like a

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 3>cream hunt Leonard Fournette.

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<v Speaker 5>No, not with you, not with McBride.

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>And part of it is that much part of it

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 1>is they they legitimately like ty Chandler even though he

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>was inactive most of last year.

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 5>They they they like that kit a lot, So.

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I really do think they're three deep at receiver running

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>back now with Dwayne McBride, So I don't think.

0:27:57.520 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 5>I don't think they're gonna add anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Uh, all right, let's take a break. When

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>we come back, let's talk through the notable wide receivers

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.439
<v Speaker 1>and tight ends that were in Day two and beyond

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:12.120
<v Speaker 1>of the NFL Draft. Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly Paul

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Charchie and Brian Johnson and special guest Thor Neistrom with

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 1>us breaking down the Round two through seven players that

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 1>you need to care about the rookies from the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not doing every single skill position rookie. We're doing

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 1>the guys we think are worthy of mention. We've done

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<v Speaker 1>the running backs, We've done the quarterbacks. Let's talk wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>The first receiver taken in the second round, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a surprise to me, was Jonathan Mingo

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>going to the Panthers.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Jonathan Mingo tested better that more athletically than he

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 4>acquits himself on the field. In my opinion, he doesn't

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 4>move around as well as his athletic profile show it.

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 4>He is an okay route runner though just in terms

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 4>of the mechanics of it, he eve impressed me with that.

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 4>At the senior ball, I knew he was going to

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 4>rise between the frame between the athletic profile and then

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 4>between how bad this class, right, But his play on

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 4>the field just did not justify the slotter that he

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 4>was taking him.

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 5>But he's going to see the field early because of it.

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>What do you think of the landing spot in Carolina Bryant,

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 1>There's not a lot of competition there feelings on you

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>know what is probably you know, the last year or

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>two of his career and then Terras Marshall Jr.

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't bode well for Terrist Marshall. I think any

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 3>host people were holding on to for him to be

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Fantasy relevant, Scott Fish is one of them. He was

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 3>our biggest Terrorist Marshall supporter. But uh it, it could

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 3>be worse. It could be a worse landing spot for Mingo.

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 3>Like you guys, I was kind of shocked that he

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 3>was What would this make him counting the first round

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 3>the fourth wide receiver, fifth wide receiver. He was well

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 3>outside the top ten wide receivers being taken on a

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, a redraft from a redraft standpoint before the draft,

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 3>so a little bit of a chakra. But he, like

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Thorpe mentioned, just he's built like a he's a he's

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 3>like a DK Metcalf type.

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Well he reminded me of Chase Claypool a little bit.

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what, another freak monster athlete exactly.

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And if he hits his ceiling, that's what it'll be.

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it was just a little bit above his

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 4>import for me. Where he got taken at thirty nine.

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay could have had their pickup every receiver in

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>this draft when they went at fifteen. No, actually they

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 1>traded at what thirteen, I don't know wherever they ended up.

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Middle of the first round they chose to pass on

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>the position, and then in the second round, picked fifty,

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>they went with Jaden Reid from Michigan State. I did

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 1>not see them going here either, but that's the selection

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>they made. What do you think about Jaden Reid's game

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>and his potential to crack a thin wide receiver roster

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>in Green Bay?

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I can't believe that Jayden Reid is a top

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 5>fifty packs.

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 4>That's a function of the wide receiver class as much

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 4>as anything this wide receiver class fell off a shelf

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 4>after those top four guys, and that Bill Simmons has

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 4>this concept of press box hot. I think Jayden Reid

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 4>is the press box hot of this wide receiver class.

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what that means. What is press box

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 5>hot thorn.

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 4>It's someone who looks more attractive because there's a dearth

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 4>of options, and in this receiver class, because there wasn't

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 4>any options. Once he get past those top four that

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 4>are super duper attractive, guys start to look attractive when again,

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 4>in a regular class, they just would have been looked

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 4>at as a Day three after thought, Yeah, that's what

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 4>I thought about with Jayden Reid. He's under six feet,

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 4>he's under one hundred and ninety pounds. He is not

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 4>an elite athlete. I like his competitiveness at the catch point.

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 4>He has made plays down the field and everything like that.

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 4>And you do give him the benefit of the doubt

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 4>that Michigan State had a poor quarterback play last couple

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 4>of years and stuff like that, But yeah, he would

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 4>not have been the guy that I would have chosen

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 4>to develop there with the fiftieth pack.

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 3>I had never heard of Jayden Reid before the draft.

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 3>He was not getting drafted in any Best Ball drafts.

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 3>I was doing seats. But now he Yeah, like you

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 3>mentioned that, it's a pretty good landing spy in Green Bay.

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 3>You're to compete with Christian Watson and Romeo Dubbs and

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 3>that's about it.

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 5>I wish it was Dubbs. It's Dobs.

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>I've been made that mistake a million times because I

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be Dubbs. Becausedubs is way cooler than Dobbs.

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it is. Uh, do you believe Jaden Reid

0:31:57.880 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>has any impact in your one?

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, I think they're probably going to try

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 4>to start him in year one. But do I think

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 4>he's going to be a stud? No, like their second

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 4>round pick from last year. At least he has the potential,

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 4>right like he had the athletic profile. You've seen it

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 4>all in his college film at NDSU Christian Watson. But

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 4>Jane Reed, I do think they're going to force him

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 4>onto the field, and also because of how bad their

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 4>receiving core is. But yeah, I'm not super ballish on

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 4>him having a huge impact.

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>The next receiver to go was to the Kansas City

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Chiefs that picked fifty five is it Raishi, Rashi Rashi

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>is Rashi Rice. All right, well then we're gonna go

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>with that as correct. Nobody will get mad at me. Yeah,

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>well the Rice family might, maybe they listen.

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:35.479
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Rashi Rashi, Yeah, he said, Rashi Rashi Rice, tell me

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>about his game?

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, right from the starter at SMU, they were

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 4>pounding that kid with targets. He had nearly four hundred

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 4>receptions over his career at SMBA. He's won both in

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 4>the slot and outside, and he's wonted all three sectors

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 4>of the field.

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 3>I think.

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 4>With the Chiefs, and they've mentioned this in some of

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 4>their their comments after the draft, one of the things

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 4>that they really like about is his game is the

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.959
<v Speaker 4>ability to go downfield. He's only six foot and a

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 4>half I believe is what he measured at two oho four,

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 4>but he has really long arms. He has arms more

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 4>like a six to five guy, and he also has

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 4>a vertical leap and he has ball skills down the

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 4>field too. He one of those guys who doesn't get

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 4>effected when a DB's trying to go through his back

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 4>like for some receivers that's just the end of rep

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 4>like on a touchdown field. Yeah, but it doesn't affect

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 4>Rashie Rice at all. Some teams were reportedly concerned about

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 4>his work ethic, different stuff like that. The Chiefs obviously

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 4>were not. They were very aggressive with him. I like

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 4>Rashi Rice's ability and potential more on the field by

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 4>quite a bit than Jayden Reid.

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 3>All Right, the question with any receiver on Kansas City

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 3>is can they stand out on that team?

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 5>We all know.

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Dravis Kelsey is essentially their number one wide receiver, but

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 3>then you got marcz All, this Gantling, Kadarius, Tony sky Moore,

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Richie James, Justin Watson who they like, Justin Ross who

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 3>didn't play last year but he's looking like he'll play

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 3>this year. Would have been a top five wide receiver

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:57.479
<v Speaker 3>last year if not for the neck injury.

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 4>Not for the injury, that is John Ross and me

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 4>or Smith Marsette, even former Viking even he's not nothing

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 4>to get too excited about.

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 3>No, he's got a lot of people to compete with

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 3>for targets here.

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he does.

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 4>But also there's no like elite guys, right, so he

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 4>could very quickly push his way to the top tier

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.359
<v Speaker 4>and as far as a perimeter option there and does

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 4>stuff that they like. And Mahomes obviously can get the

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 4>ball down field. I do think we're going to see

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:24.240
<v Speaker 4>him early on the field.

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Me Cole Hartman was a such a tantalizing talent and

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>he had some real game breaking ability, but he could

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>never he could never become a reliable receiver and a

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>team that desperately needed one correct And I so I

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 1>just don't think the landing spot for any receiver in

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City as great as it sounds and as open

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>as this opportunity is for Russhee Rice, Racchie Rice, Rashie

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Rashie Rice. It doesn't automatically mean that he's going to

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:53.359
<v Speaker 1>take advantage of.

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 4>You, No, it definitely doesn't. But he has the ball scales,

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 4>for instance, that me Col Hartman lacks. But you know,

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 4>obviously we seen last year they took Sky more than

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.359
<v Speaker 4>this ball skills he did, yeah, and he could win

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 4>them both the inside and the outside, and they didn't

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 4>trust him initially early on. So we'll see if Rashie

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 4>Rice can win that trust from the coaching staff in camp.

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>All Right, they got a couple others for you, wide

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>receiver Marvin Mimms to the Denver Broncos. What's your take

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 1>on Mims? No relation to Denzel, I assume career over

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Denzel Mims.

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I love Marvin Mems. Marvin Mims was my

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 4>fifth receiver. I like I had him, you know, forty eight,

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 4>so I had him around where you know, my board

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 4>where Jayden Reid. It ended up going Marvin Mims. First off,

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.240
<v Speaker 4>he is the all time leader in Texas high school

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 4>football history and receiving yards.

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 5>Jesus this day.

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 4>Then he goes to Oklahoma and was awesome as a

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 4>true freshman. The last two years his game was a

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 4>little bit down on the surface, but you keep in

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 4>mind the contexts there. Twenty twenty one, Spencer Ratler goes

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.399
<v Speaker 4>into a tank. Yeah, into the tank at the beginning

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 4>of the season. Then then Lincoln Riley had his foot

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:55.399
<v Speaker 4>out the door. The rest of it wasn't the best

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 4>offensive environment there. Then Lincoln Riley leaves for USC last season,

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 4>they bringing Brent Venables.

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 5>Their offense was a train wreck.

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 4>But Marvin Mins, so he's a smaller kid, comes in

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 4>five to eleven and a quarter one eighty three, but

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 4>he won on the outside throughout his career at Oklahoma.

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:12.800
<v Speaker 4>He's also played in the slot, so you can do

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 4>either one of those. But Marvin Mins, for being a

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 4>smaller receiver, is a fabulous downfield receiver. The ball tracking,

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.240
<v Speaker 4>the ball skills downfield. His highlight reel of his best

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 4>catches in college is the best in.

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 5>This entire receiver class.

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:29.879
<v Speaker 4>He makes absolute circus catches and the downfield utility. Every

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.720
<v Speaker 4>single season he was on campus all three years, thirty

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:34.879
<v Speaker 4>five percent or more of his targets came twenty plus

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 4>yards downfield. I really like that pick for Denver and

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 4>I expect him to be starting next year.

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Courtland Sutton was rumored to be on the trading block

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>before this.

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 3>Pick, and Jerry Judy, they've both kind of been on

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 3>the block.

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Right Well, I think I think Judy's way, way, way better.

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:50.399
<v Speaker 1>I think they're gonna hold Judy. I think Sutton could

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 1>be moved and that would open up a spot for Mims,

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:54.800
<v Speaker 1>who needs on. Tim Patrick's there too, and Tim Patrick's

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>proven himself to be a pretty.

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 3>Good coming off major knee injury.

0:36:57.600 --> 0:36:58.280
<v Speaker 5>That's a fair point.

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:00.400
<v Speaker 3>That was he will be a year move from that

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:02.439
<v Speaker 3>when the season starts, because that was a preseason injury.

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's a good spot. It could have been

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 3>a better spot for Hims like Kansas City, right Denver?

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 3>Denver not too bad.

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Houston is my favorite rebuilding team and I've really kind

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 1>of emotionally back to the Texans right now. What do

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>you think of the selection in the third round of

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Nathaniel tank Dell for the Texans.

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 5>I like it. I like it.

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm just the only thing with that is is so

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 4>tank Dell obviously has to be a slot receiver. He's

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 4>the teeny tiny you know, it's one hundred and sixty

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 4>pounds or so.

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I love him as a slot.

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 4>Nobody could cover him one on one at the senior ball,

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:36.359
<v Speaker 4>which wasn't a surprise at all though those drills are

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 4>tilted towards the offense, and nobody in college could cover

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 4>tank Dell. And by the way, it wasn't just like

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 4>in the G five. Every single Power five team that

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 4>Houston played the last couple of years, tank Dell cooked them.

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 4>And then when they faced Cincinnati the playoffs, Cincinnati team

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 4>where they had Zas Gardner the two NFL safeties Kolbe

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 4>Bryant on the other side of quarterback, tank Dell cooked

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 4>them too. Tankt Dell cooks everybody, but he has to

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.280
<v Speaker 4>be a slot receiver in the NFL because of that frame.

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 4>Then you look at Houston's roster. They'd taken John Menshi

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 4>the year before, who obviously missed last season, but to me,

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 4>he was a slot receiver. So are you looking now

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 4>at John Mechi as an outside receiver? And then later

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 4>on Houston takes a big manufactured touch slot in Xavier Hutchinson,

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 4>who that's all he's ever done is just a manufacturer.

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 4>What he did at Iowa State manufactured touches for him

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:21.359
<v Speaker 4>close to the line and let him let him run

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 4>after that. So I don't know what they're doing on

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 4>the boundary there, but yeah, Tank Dell should be starting

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 4>in an NFL slot next year, and hopefully that is

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 4>open for him in Houston.

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 3>And the two main people that he'll be competing with

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 3>for targets starters Robert Woods very well washed at this point.

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and Don got a fork sticking out of him.

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Nico Collins good, not great.

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 4>The other contextual thing I would say, and Tank like,

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 4>if Tank del can win that starting slot, shop into

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:48.879
<v Speaker 4>your one.

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 5>CJ.

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 4>Stroud threw the ball of metric ton to the slot

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 4>at Ohio JS that house he'll be looking for for

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 4>Tank Dell.

0:38:55.800 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Is Tank Dell's game closer to Rondell Moore or you've

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>got a comp of Hollywood Brown, Yeah, where what do

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 1>you think? It's more those two are not very stylistic.

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 4>It's more of the latter because Rondeo Moore or he's

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:12.439
<v Speaker 4>super explosive, but he's another one of those manufactured touch guys,

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 4>right like, and we just don't know if he can

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:15.720
<v Speaker 4>win down the field whatnot.

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 5>But no, we know he can't Rondelle more Field.

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 4>I trying to give him the but like you know,

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 4>in this case, like tant Dell, he wonted all three

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 4>sectors of the field every single year he was at Houston,

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 4>Like I think two of the three years he was

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 4>at Houston he had PFF grades at every all three

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 4>sectors of ninety or above, which is really good. And

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 4>that's why I railed against the idea of like he

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 4>was too too out well or something like.

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 5>That, too to out well.

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 4>At Louisville, it was just the manufactured touches short or

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 4>else sent them on a fly route. Tank Dell can

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.280
<v Speaker 4>actually run routes and he shakes people every single time.

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna hit two more receivers next. Jalen Hyatt was

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 1>expected to go higher than this, and I didn't love

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 1>him as like an early second round pick which where

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.279
<v Speaker 1>many people at him placed. But he drops to like

0:39:57.640 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, mid third round and he ends up

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 1>with the Giant in which gives him a lot of opportunity.

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on Jalen Hyatt.

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, really good landing spot for him. The Giants were

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 4>a team that we're thinking about the receiver in round one,

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 4>then they watched the flour go right up off them

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 4>right and then in a round two one of the

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.920
<v Speaker 4>guys they were considering in round one, John Michael Schmidt,

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 4>who filled this enormous.

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 5>Hole there as well. Perfect spot was available. It was

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 5>a perfect spot for him.

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 4>So because of that, they weren't able to pick the

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 4>receiver earlier on even though they had a desperate need there.

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 5>They take Jalen Hide here.

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 4>Jalen Hyde is a one year Wonder one trick pony,

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 4>but the trick is pretty cool.

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 5>He can win downfield.

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it'll be interesting to see him in the NFL,

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 4>where Josh Hipel was able to move him around the formation,

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:40.239
<v Speaker 4>get him into advantageous matchups, like, for instance, when they

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 4>were playing Alabama, Jalen Hyko matchup on DeMarco Hellms, a

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 4>whole bunch of DeMarco Hellmes is a strong safety, like

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 4>basically an extra linebacker. But like he got isolated in

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 4>the coverage against Jalen Hyde.

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 5>That's a bad combo right there.

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 4>Jalen Hide had the ten yard head start to get

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 4>to him and I was just like bye bye. So like,

0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 4>but in the NFL, he's actually going to have to

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 4>beat people off of the line. They might press him,

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 4>which never happened to him at Tennessee. But again, you

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.359
<v Speaker 4>do have that downfield utility just some of those other

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.240
<v Speaker 4>things he has to prove, but he has a clear shot,

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 4>a clear path to playing time immediately in that receiving court,

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 4>you think so well, I mean who else they got there?

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, they got like five other slot receivers is the problem. Yeah, yeah,

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 3>none of them are that great. But you know Paris Campbell,

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:22.719
<v Speaker 3>won Dale Robinson, Jameson Crowders, Charlie Shephard. It makes me

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:23.879
<v Speaker 3>love Darren Waller even more.

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they're kind of like the Texas.

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 4>They both have more slots on a casino but like,

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 4>but you know as far as high like yeah, I mean,

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 4>like you probably do have to play him in the slot.

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:34.439
<v Speaker 5>But he is the pop the top fella there.

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about one more wide receiver already

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 1>at what our longest offseason show of the year.

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 5>But it was a loaded guy to talk to Josh.

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Downs just because what I loved about Josh downs despite

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the relatively small stature, dude's got the it factor. I mean,

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 1>he wants to eat, just a battler going for balls.

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 5>He's fearless.

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I liked Josh downs a lot, and I was a

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 1>little surprised that he fell to the third mid third

0:41:58.239 --> 0:41:59.439
<v Speaker 1>round in the Indianapolis Colt.

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 5>I'm totally with you, charge. I love Josh Downes' game.

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 4>Like you know, he gets the price point to flight

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 4>it because he's not a boundary receiver. He's just a slot.

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:10.360
<v Speaker 4>He's just gonna be a slot in the NFL. But

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 4>we know he's gonna be a good one. And immediately,

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 4>like the last couple of years uns, he didn't really

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 4>have any other skill guys, they were just pounding targets

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:18.280
<v Speaker 4>to Jess Jones.

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 5>He converted all those. He's extremely efficient, his hands are

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 5>really good.

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:23.239
<v Speaker 4>Take a look at the drop rate, take a look

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:24.879
<v Speaker 4>at the tape. The other thing I really like about

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:27.240
<v Speaker 4>him in terms of that you're working in an NFL slot,

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna be moving around a lot of garbage stuff

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:31.880
<v Speaker 4>like that, picking through traffic, whatnot. You're gonna have to

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:34.719
<v Speaker 4>catch the ball around other guys. Josh Downes is contested

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.240
<v Speaker 4>catch rate in college was awesome just in a vacuum,

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 4>but particularly for a receiver that's five nine one seventy one. Yeah,

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:44.239
<v Speaker 4>he's gonna show ISJAA McKenzie and whoever they got out

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:46.240
<v Speaker 4>of there right away, he will be their starting slot

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:46.759
<v Speaker 4>on day one.

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 5>He will Paris Campbell gone. That opens up opens up

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 5>another Isaiah.

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 3>Isaiah McKenzie is who will be competing against in the slot,

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 3>and he should beat him out. And downs was a

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 3>guy who was going as the sixth seventh rookie wide

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:01.879
<v Speaker 3>receiver in three draft draft and I drafted a ton

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 3>of them. People are down on him now because of

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 3>the draft capital, but I'm averaging down in terms of

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:08.839
<v Speaker 3>like I'm still buying at a lower price. I love

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 3>I love Josh too.

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm with you obviously.

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Richardson will be throwing in passes and hopefully maybe

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 1>this year, maybe next year, we'll find out more how

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:18.399
<v Speaker 1>that'll work out.

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 5>With time.

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Thorn Ice from is our guest, Uh, what is your type?

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 1>You have a title NFL Draft Analysts, college football analyst

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 1>for fantasy pros, and.

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 5>I like it.

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about five tight ends beginning and

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 1>again the one first rounders off the board.

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 5>Dalton Kin kid it was not the was the first

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:42.359
<v Speaker 5>player taken. We talked about him last week.

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 3>By the way, even more recently follow him, he was

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 3>getting plus odds and Thor said he will be the

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 3>first tight end taking.

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:51.520
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 1>The Lions end up going tight end early in round two,

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 1>a position of great need for them after they let t. J.

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.839
<v Speaker 1>Hutch Hockinson go, And by the way, they still threw

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 1>to the tight ends, you know, the anonymous tight end.

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 1>They still involved those guys, but they ended up going

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>with Sam Laporta from Iowa, who was shockingly productive in

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.320
<v Speaker 1>an offense that couldn't do anything basically that didn't involve

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Sam Laporta.

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, yeah, And like you mentioned, I mean, just

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 4>about as bad of an offensive environment as you can

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 4>come from. Last year, Iowa was one hundred and thirtyeth

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:20.760
<v Speaker 4>out of one hundred and thirty one FPS teams and scoring,

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 4>they were terrible. Four players had. Individual players in the

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 4>FPBS had more offensive touchdowns than the IOWA.

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:28.800
<v Speaker 5>Offense did last season. That's amazing, So it's kind of crazy.

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 4>But the even crazier thing is if i WOUA didn't

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 4>have Sam Laporta, they would have been the worst FBS

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 4>offense in the history of FBS. Like they would manufacture

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 4>all these touches to Sam Laporta and then just watched

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 4>Sam Laporta break tackles. Last year he had twenty four

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:45.840
<v Speaker 4>Smiths tackles, which was the top five all time individual

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 4>season during the PFF charting era of that nine years,

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 4>like I mentioned before, and then also a first down

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.919
<v Speaker 4>and touchdown monster even on that terrible team. Two thirds

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 4>of his catches the last two years win for either

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 4>a first down or a touchdown. The agility and the

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 4>strength is what stands out about him in conjunction.

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 5>With each other.

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:04.839
<v Speaker 4>He's super agile along the route pass, so that's how

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:07.320
<v Speaker 4>he opens up the throwing windows for the quarterback. And

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:08.879
<v Speaker 4>then when he gets the ball in his hands, that's

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:09.799
<v Speaker 4>what makes him so good.

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 5>After the catch.

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 4>He's a yeah god for a tight end, and yeah

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:14.720
<v Speaker 4>he's going to be productive as a rookie for Detroit.

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Pretty good track record for Iowa, producing titles.

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>No kidding Dallas, they know what they're doing there. In

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:27.840
<v Speaker 1>a different year, Sam Laporta would have been a first rounder.

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah he could have been. Yeah, in a different offense

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:30.799
<v Speaker 5>for sure.

0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 4>Well that too, right, Yeah, he would have acquitted himself

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 4>better for sure.

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 5>So I agree with that.

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the guy that everybody thought. You know

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 1>all most of the mock drafts had Michael Mahyer going

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 1>as the first overall tight end in this draft and

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:46.840
<v Speaker 1>in the first round. Many Adam Pegg going to Dallas.

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:47.760
<v Speaker 5>You didn't.

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 1>He ends up with the Raiders. Is the Darren Waller replacement.

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Talk to me about Michael Mahyer.

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:56.400
<v Speaker 4>The reason the NFL started deflated his value just a

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:58.320
<v Speaker 4>little bit is because he doesn't give you the receiving

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 4>utility had the other two guys. He he ain't go

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:02.800
<v Speaker 4>downfield and get it like Dalton Kinka does. He doesn't

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 4>create the separation like Dalton kin Kay does, and he

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:07.879
<v Speaker 4>doesn't have the run after the catch that Sam Laparta does.

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 4>But what he has on both those guys is Michael

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:12.400
<v Speaker 4>Mayer is a true inline tight end who blocks his

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 4>butt off and is really good at that. Yeah, and

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 4>as a receiver, the thing you get from him, it's

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:18.840
<v Speaker 4>he catches the ball out to the intermediate area without

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 4>creating the separation. But his special sauce is contested situations.

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 4>And he's even talked about this in the media of

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 4>like how he doesn't even care, like he actually wants

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 4>to field the guy along his route because he wants

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.560
<v Speaker 4>to pin him to his back. And last year in

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:33.919
<v Speaker 4>Notre Dame they didn't have any other offensive skill guys.

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 4>They're starting quarterback gets injured right away. They have this

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:38.840
<v Speaker 4>newd alarm scrambler that comes in Drew Pine to be

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 4>the quarterback for the rest of this season. They forced

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.840
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of touches to Michael Mahyer and the defense

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:45.920
<v Speaker 4>new was coming. He got double team, he'd still come

0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 4>down with the catch.

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Packers needed a tight end badly, and they go to

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Luke Musgrave in the early second round. He's got an

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:55.239
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to walk right into that starting job.

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:56.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah he does.

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 4>It's funny when the Packers made that pick, I was like,

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:00.880
<v Speaker 4>you dopes, there's a better receiver tight end that's on

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 4>the board right now, and then they took him around later.

0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 4>I think Tucker Kraft ends up having a better career

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 4>for the Packers Luke musk Grave does. But Musgrave, he

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.279
<v Speaker 4>is a really interesting thought experiment. He barely you know.

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 4>I think he had thirteen college starts or something like that.

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 4>Last year was supposed to be his breakout season, but

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 4>after two games he ends up getting hurt. For the

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 4>rest of the year, we don't get to see him whatnot.

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:24.520
<v Speaker 4>He did play really well in those first two games.

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 4>The thing you like most about him, it's the athletic profile.

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 4>In that frame. He has shown to have an aptitude

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:31.959
<v Speaker 4>to go downfield and get it as well. But he's

0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 4>not good in the intermediate range, mostly because he doesn't

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 4>have the agility with him. It's all the straight line

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:39.359
<v Speaker 4>line explosion, so he just doesn't have any nuance with

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:40.840
<v Speaker 4>with the route running stuff like that. He's not going

0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 4>to create the separation. He also doesn't break tackles. I

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 4>told you guys last year Samu Laporte had twenty by

0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 4>himself in one season.

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 5>Luke Musgrave over his entire career had two. That's it. Yeah,

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 5>that's it.

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of It reminds me of how when the

0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:57.120
<v Speaker 3>Ravens drafted Hayden Hurst and then took Mark Andrews rounds later, Right,

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 3>they took a much better tight end.

0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:00.480
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 3>If I'm pairing it, I'm looking to pay a cheap

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 3>tight end with a Jordan Love and a best ball stack.

0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:07.160
<v Speaker 3>I like Tucker Craft more than a musk Grave.

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.360
<v Speaker 1>We'll just go right to talk. I'm gonna skip to

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Tucker Craft. Okay, let's do it. Let's go to Tucker Craft.

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>He's the Packers also end up taking him. He is

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 1>the farm boy from Minnesota that ended up playing at

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 1>South Dakota State. He was highly productive there. Talk to

0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 1>me about Tucker Craft as the other option.

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a six five kid, two fifty four, and he

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:28.560
<v Speaker 4>has a ninety seven percentile size adjusted athletics score, you know,

0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:30.920
<v Speaker 4>during the pre draft process. And he was dominant at

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:31.920
<v Speaker 4>the FCS level too.

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 4>The only thing you're disappointed about was last offseason around

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 4>this time, a whole bunch of FBS programs. We're going

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 4>to offer him a bag to go and transfer there

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:42.239
<v Speaker 4>or whatever with nil money. He wanted to stick it

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:44.920
<v Speaker 4>out and finish things with his teammates. You would have

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:46.440
<v Speaker 4>liked to have seen him for one year in the

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:49.359
<v Speaker 4>FSA proven that concept, because the only Nippick you can

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:52.080
<v Speaker 4>make about like him on film is he was so

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 4>dominant and such an athleticis a manager all everybody like

0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 4>a lot of his catches, he already just blew by

0:48:58.200 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 4>the guy and then he would just be an open

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 4>space and then you just be trucking down the field whatnot.

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 4>You wanted to see him against better athletes and then

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 4>you look like the.

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:07.799
<v Speaker 5>Route running sort of nuanced with that.

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you didn't get to see that quite as much,

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:12.440
<v Speaker 4>but I mean the receiving skill was all there on tape.

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.319
<v Speaker 4>The athletic profile speaks for itself. I do think he's

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:16.800
<v Speaker 4>gonna be better than Musgrave in the NFL.

0:49:17.000 --> 0:49:20.120
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna draft one of the two packer rookie tight

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:23.360
<v Speaker 1>ends for your dynasty team. Is it Luke Musgrave or

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:24.240
<v Speaker 1>is it Tucker Craft?

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 5>For me? Tucker Craft? Easy, same.

0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:28.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're gonna get him cheaper because people just look

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:28.920
<v Speaker 3>at the.

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Draft draft equity, right. Yeah, I'm on Tucker Craft's game.

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got way more upside, you know, just

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:38.440
<v Speaker 1>that Position's really hard to get fantasy producers out of

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:41.880
<v Speaker 1>your tight end position. But Tucker Craft has the upside

0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:45.160
<v Speaker 1>to be a top five fantasy tight end in three years. Yeah,

0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I just don't see it when I watch Luke Musgrave.

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah I don't either.

0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 4>And a lot of this stuff with Musgrave it's you know,

0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 4>you would say it's projection, but really it's just a

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:55.280
<v Speaker 4>leap of faith because you've just never seen it before.

0:49:55.360 --> 0:49:57.799
<v Speaker 4>So he has Musgrave has to stay on the field.

0:49:57.840 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 4>He's also got the durability issues. So we'll see, I'll go.

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't spend a lot of time on Luke shoon Maker,

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:07.359
<v Speaker 1>who ends up being the Dallas Cowboys tight end when

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:09.640
<v Speaker 1>everybody thought it'd be Dalton Kin Kate or some or

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, Michael Mayer. I don't know that much about

0:50:12.400 --> 0:50:15.160
<v Speaker 1>his game. Who tell me about Luke Shoonmaker.

0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:18.400
<v Speaker 3>I can tell you he's old as hell, right, like

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 3>twenty six years old almost, he's about in twenty five.

0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:21.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 4>So he goes to Michigan an another tight end factory.

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:26.760
<v Speaker 4>And the thing you like about him he plays inline.

0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:28.919
<v Speaker 4>He's in line size and it was six five two

0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:31.360
<v Speaker 4>fifty one and he blocks and he's.

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:33.080
<v Speaker 5>He's a good blocker. Yeah, but like he goes.

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean he opened people's eyes by going into the

0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:38.400
<v Speaker 4>pre draft process ninety eight percentile size adjusted to athleticism. You

0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:40.239
<v Speaker 4>didn't get to see that as much. Or Michigan because

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:42.400
<v Speaker 4>they just never used him as a receiver. So it's like,

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:44.839
<v Speaker 4>was Michigan who has a really smart coaching staff, where

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:46.680
<v Speaker 4>they miss using him by not using him more as

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:49.080
<v Speaker 4>a receiver or is he just not good at that?

0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:51.719
<v Speaker 4>We only got limited looks there. You know, the other

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 4>stuff speaks for itself. You know, you have the athleticism thing,

0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:57.040
<v Speaker 4>but it seems like Dallas is sort of you know,

0:50:57.120 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 4>a hope and a prayer as far as the rest

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:00.360
<v Speaker 4>of it goes. Because they missed out on some of

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 4>those better Titans, or they reached for Schoonmaker over some

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:06.800
<v Speaker 4>of those guys. It's funny, my compound schoonmaker was Dalton Scholtz.

0:51:06.840 --> 0:51:09.360
<v Speaker 4>Who's the reason that Yeah, right, he was taking because.

0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 5>He walked out the door.

0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 4>But like you know, as far as for fantasy people,

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 4>it's just a total unknown that receiving utility. So even

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:17.279
<v Speaker 4>though I do think he's gonna play early, I just

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:19.279
<v Speaker 4>don't know how that's gonna project.

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:21.880
<v Speaker 1>A really disappointing landing spot for the final tight end.

0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about Darnell Washington, the Big oh

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:29.280
<v Speaker 1>as they called him at Georgia. I loved the potential

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:34.480
<v Speaker 1>upside of Darnell Washington as a freaking beast. He's sixty

0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:37.200
<v Speaker 1>seven or six foot I think he's six foot seven,

0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and seventy pounds.

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:41.759
<v Speaker 5>But with the with the ball in his.

0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Hands, Darnell Washington is just shredding dudes. He's nimble, he's

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:50.239
<v Speaker 1>got catch radius. I'm like, what it took me a

0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:52.400
<v Speaker 1>while to fire out why he didn't get more balls

0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:54.680
<v Speaker 1>at Georgia until I found out how good brock bers

0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 1>is and how he's gonna be like a top five

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:58.640
<v Speaker 1>player next year. Talk to me a little bit about

0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Darnell Washington tough land spot with the Steelers.

0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:03.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it sure is, and obviously they have an intention

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:06.000
<v Speaker 4>to go to more twelve personnel and whatnot. But yeah,

0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:08.839
<v Speaker 4>you're behind Friarmuth as far as the first receiving tight end.

0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 4>And that's certainly what happened to him at Georgia when

0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 4>he was stuck behind Brock Bowers. Who's going to be

0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:14.120
<v Speaker 4>the first tight end taking off the board in the

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:16.839
<v Speaker 4>next draft, right, And you know, like, if you're going

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 4>to look at Darna Washington glass half full as a receiver, it's, oh,

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, he didn't get the extra utility because Brock

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:25.680
<v Speaker 4>Bowers on the roster. Eric Gilbert was active for a

0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:27.759
<v Speaker 4>little bit as well. Who he was the number one

0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:30.359
<v Speaker 4>tight end in his class. Yeah, but Darnall Washington, he's

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:32.439
<v Speaker 4>one of the better blocking tight ends who's come out

0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 4>in like the last decade. In fact, when he was

0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:36.640
<v Speaker 4>coming out as a recruit, there was a whole bunch

0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:39.279
<v Speaker 4>of blue bloods that wanted him as an offensive tackle to.

0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:39.960
<v Speaker 5>Ball him up.

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:42.200
<v Speaker 4>I bet he played games in college at over two

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:44.359
<v Speaker 4>hundred and eighty pounds. I think he's in the two

0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 4>sixty four. That was like him on a diet. But

0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 4>he's going to be playing games around that in the NFL.

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:52.759
<v Speaker 4>The receiving utilities, it's the one thing that we just

0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:54.600
<v Speaker 4>don't know. He put on a show during the pre

0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:57.280
<v Speaker 4>draft process, but in college he only caught two balls

0:52:57.280 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 4>to travel more than twenty yards in the air. Despite

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:02.279
<v Speaker 4>that having a lower aid dot, he had a drop

0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:04.960
<v Speaker 4>rate over ten percent. So it's like, you know, if

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:07.680
<v Speaker 4>he's gonna be the intermediate safety blanket guy. He can't

0:53:07.719 --> 0:53:11.360
<v Speaker 4>be dropping that many masses whatnot. But like, there just

0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:13.960
<v Speaker 4>weren't looks manufactured for him. At Georgia, he was always

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:16.200
<v Speaker 4>the you know, the third fourth option on a play

0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:19.200
<v Speaker 4>or whatever. In the NFL, can he prove anymore with that, well,

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:19.680
<v Speaker 4>we'll see.

0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:19.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:21.920
<v Speaker 4>But the blocking spiece for itself, it's what's gonna get

0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 4>him onto the field.

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:23.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it is.

0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:26.360
<v Speaker 3>I have some medicals too, right that they did that point.

0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 4>Medical different foot injuries last year and some teams were

0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:31.160
<v Speaker 4>concerned about that potentially being a recurring thing.

0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:32.320
<v Speaker 5>Yep. Reasonable.

0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Darnell Washington though, a freaky upside if the receiving comes together.

0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:42.560
<v Speaker 1>You've got Gronconian stature in Darnell Washington, and if it

0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:46.120
<v Speaker 1>turns out he can be a reliable receiver, and it's

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:49.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, now, now it's I'm gonna go all Jelanie

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Woods on myself.

0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:52.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it would have been a very sexy pick for

0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 3>the Jaguars if they took Washington.

0:53:55.160 --> 0:53:55.880
<v Speaker 5>They took a tight end.

0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:57.759
<v Speaker 3>Brenton Strange, We're not gonna talk about because I don't

0:53:57.760 --> 0:53:59.279
<v Speaker 3>even know if he's a real person, you.

0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:00.320
<v Speaker 5>Know, about it.

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:02.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure, Thor, but that would have been a fun

0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:04.399
<v Speaker 3>pick for Jacksonville, Washington.

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:06.919
<v Speaker 5>There another guy, a strange pick.

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I see what you did.

0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:10.440
<v Speaker 5>Very nice, Thor.

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for all your contributions to the show. I mean,

0:54:12.680 --> 0:54:14.680
<v Speaker 1>perfect guy to have on right now. We're blessed to

0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:16.399
<v Speaker 1>have you in the Twin Cities. We can just bring

0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:17.080
<v Speaker 1>into my kitchen.

0:54:17.120 --> 0:54:17.800
<v Speaker 5>Hey, appreciate you.

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:20.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fantastic, lots of fun and I hope this has

0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:23.879
<v Speaker 1>been a valuable exercise, especially for those in dynasty leagues

0:54:23.960 --> 0:54:26.879
<v Speaker 1>are doing deeper dives on the players after round number one.

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