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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly

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Speaker 2: source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and

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Speaker 2: whatever stupid stuff they decide to drop into the show. Now,

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Speaker 2: here's your host, Paul Charchian.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I am Paul Charchian. I

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Speaker 1: have two co hosts today as usual. Brian Johnson, Hey, Brian.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, what's up? No one cares about me?

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares not today, No, because we've got this is

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Speaker 1: your second time on the show, thor Thorney String. So

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Speaker 1: do you want to give an official affiliation or you

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Speaker 1: just Thorneiser nice drum.

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Speaker 4: We can go with thorneistrom but I work for Fantasy Pros,

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Speaker 4: but okay, call me all right.

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Speaker 5: Either way it works.

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Speaker 1: We're really glad to have you here because we spend

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Speaker 1: our fall as totally immersed in the NFL and then

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Speaker 1: we try to play catch up on the college guys

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Speaker 1: in February March April. Role you do this all year round.

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Speaker 1: You know so much more than we do, so perfect

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Speaker 1: to bring you in to talk about all of the

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Speaker 1: players that went after Round one. Last week's show. We

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Speaker 1: did Round one players. We recorded on Friday, so we

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Speaker 1: had all the Thursday stuff. I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: the fantasy players who matter most that went to through seven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this was was going to require a lot of

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Speaker 3: prep and the like. Let us get thork.

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Speaker 5: I didn't have to do anything. I just go make.

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Speaker 3: Rookies exactly were hooked up today.

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Speaker 1: Yes, uh, I want to start the quarterback position. We'll

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Speaker 1: hit all the hit quarterbacks, running back to wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: tight ends. Again, we're not doing everybody, because you can't.

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Speaker 1: That would be an enormously long, boring show. We're going

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Speaker 1: to hit on the players who have the greatest chance

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Speaker 1: of making some reasonably close term impact. So let's start

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Speaker 1: at wide receiver as sorry, quarterback. And the first quarterback

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Speaker 1: taken after the first round was Will Levis, who surprisingly

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Speaker 1: as the possible.

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Speaker 5: Air apparent to Ryan Tannehill. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Will, he's gonna start number three on the depth chair.

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Speaker 4: We've already seen that. And there's a couple different things

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Speaker 4: with his game that he needs to fix. The biggest

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Speaker 4: the lack of pocket presence, He doesn't sense the pass rushers.

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Speaker 4: That's something that they're going to use that developmental year

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Speaker 4: End up being able to do that, but yeah, I

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Speaker 5: I don't expect to see him on the field in

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Speaker 1: All right, that's critical for redraft. We don't think Will

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Speaker 5: But Tanhill's on the last year of his deal.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe will Lovis is the probable starter for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in twenty twenty four, that's sort of what they're indicating.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, I don't know. You're gonna have

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Speaker 4: But yeah, the thing that he has to fix it's

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Speaker 4: the exact same thing that I use to pick out

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Speaker 4: the thing that Drew Locke act. They haven't been able

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Speaker 4: to fix it yet. Can you fix it with Will Levis?

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Speaker 4: If you do, he's going to be a good quarterback.

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Speaker 4: But that's a long bridge to get there.

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Speaker 3: because it's no longer it used to be the Titans

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Speaker 3: the Jaguars Division. And if you know the Titans go

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Speaker 1: They effectively benched Ryan Tannehill last year, so you know

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Speaker 1: that scenario is out there. All right, Let's move on

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Speaker 1: to Hendon Hooker, the other, uh, the other the other

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Speaker 5: He goes to Detroit.

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Speaker 3: What is the are getting mocked for taking into a

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Speaker 1: But you know, at that point the value is pretty good.

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Speaker 1: But people and and a year ago at this time

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Speaker 4: It's funny because all spring I railed against this idea

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Speaker 4: That's right around where I had him ranked on my

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Speaker 4: Jared Goff. You see when he comes back, the thing

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Speaker 4: just some we've literally never seen before Tennessee offense. It's

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Speaker 4: It's that he could square his shoulders in his entire

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Speaker 4: I think it was one hundred and fifty five times

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Speaker 5: That's terrible. That is terrible.

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Speaker 4: So he has to learn how to process while he's

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Speaker 4: on the move. That stuff we just haven't seen before.

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Speaker 4: Can they teach him that stuff during this injury red

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Speaker 4: shirt season that's coming up? That will inform whether he

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Speaker 3: If something were to happen to goff injury wise, not

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Speaker 3: that he's injury prone or anything. Hooker right now is

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Speaker 5: I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: I would be surprised if he's back in active before

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Speaker 4: November's you know, that's when he suffered the injury. But

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Speaker 4: maybe he could come back by October. But why would

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Speaker 4: has never done these things that the NFL offense is

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Speaker 3: Well, you can throw them to the wolves so you

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Speaker 3: won't have to play Nate Sudfield or Suidfield or Adrian Martinez.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Kansas State Wildcats.

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Speaker 3: Of course you would know that last thing.

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Speaker 1: I'll mention a Hooker in him possibly passing golf. We

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Speaker 1: act like Jared Goff's got one foot in the grave.

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Speaker 5: He's twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: If Jared Goff still got potentially like eight decade of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not for me either, I don't think and the

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I would expect Goff to be the start

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Speaker 3: Hooker was only three years younger.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the point Saints took the next quarterback off

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Speaker 3: But I admittedly never heard of the guy. But I

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Speaker 1: Or get us up to speed on on Jake Hayn.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was really good the last couple of years

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Speaker 5: He did really, really good.

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Speaker 4: He also had a great senior ball and he did

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Speaker 4: great on that S two Test, which I know the

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Speaker 4: NFL cares about quite a bit. Now it's surpassed the

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Speaker 5: So you have all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: He reminds you a little bit of rock perty from

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Speaker 4: the previous process where the things that he lacks is

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Speaker 4: stuff he can't do anything about. The frame, uh, just

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Speaker 4: sort of mediocre athletes, and then they have the wet

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Speaker 4: take profits, they don't make mistakes with the ball. Both

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Speaker 4: those guys are leaders. He's gonna run your offense for

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Speaker 4: you if he ever gets out there. So I mean,

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Speaker 4: I could see him down the road coming in if

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Speaker 5: Being okay with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Carr just signed a four five year deal,

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Speaker 1: So it feels like Hayn to me is just going

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Speaker 3: Car and hater both from Presdo state though.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's true, Yeah, all right, some kind of

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Speaker 1: advantages to that. The next quarterback taken was Stetson Bennett.

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Speaker 5: There's Stafford. We didn't even know I Stafford was going.

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Speaker 1: To play this year, right, He was so close to

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Speaker 1: thinking about retiring. Another bad year for him or another

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Speaker 1: injury field year. That could be it for Stafford. Does

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Speaker 1: Stetson Bennett have any game at the NFL level?

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Speaker 4: So I compare him to Ian Buck, you know, it's

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Speaker 4: just so, No, I don't think so, not for me.

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Speaker 4: I mean he can process the field a little bit,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean you lack the free even more

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Speaker 4: than Jay Cayner does. And I don't know if he

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Speaker 4: processes as well as Jay Cayner does on the field.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was a really weird pick in round four.

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Speaker 1: All right, the last quarterback I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: also a round four guy where the Raiders taking Aid

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Speaker 1: and O'Connell. He I mentioned this only because Garoppolo so

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Speaker 1: wobbly as the starter. This could be a one and

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Speaker 1: done experiment with Garoppolo. In fact, I'm guessing it will

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Speaker 1: be a one and done experiment. I think the Raiders

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Speaker 1: and taking another quarterback at this time next year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they definitely could be O'Connell. I like his pocket

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Speaker 4: game enough. He goes through the progressions for sure. He

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Speaker 4: did for Jeff Browms offense at Purdue. He's not athletic, though,

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Speaker 4: does give you that short and intermedia area accuracy. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he has the physical skills to

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Speaker 3: I'm pulling for fourth stringer Chase Garber's on the Raiders

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Speaker 3: depth start, just so we can say that it's Garber's

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Speaker 5: I like it. Let's go to the running backs.

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Speaker 1: We already talked about the Day one running backs, so

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Speaker 1: let's go to the Day two running backs and beyond,

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Speaker 1: beginning with the shocking pick, not by talent but by

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Speaker 1: location of Zach Sharbonay did not see Seattle as a

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Speaker 5: I didn't either. Yeah, I love Zach Charbine.

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Speaker 4: It's it's real weird. They obviously like Charbeney's game. I

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Speaker 1: As the Kenneth Walker dynasty owners like, oh, you're kidding me?

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Speaker 3: And charbonne whoever already had their draft or was planning

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Speaker 5: So that's the one thing he done.

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Speaker 3: He'll do the backfield in Seattle disaster.

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Speaker 1: I had hoped that Charbonne would find his way to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Last question on Zach Charbonay for you the balls at

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Speaker 4: I think I think it's going to be Zach Charbonay.

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Speaker 1: Third round, the Saints went with Kendray Miller. Now, what's

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Speaker 4: They're going to try to push him up there. They

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Speaker 5: I was shocked that.

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Speaker 1: They didn't go with spears or a chain or you know,

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Speaker 5: Surely I was. I was surprised by the selection there.

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Speaker 3: The problem with Miller and Kamara is Jamal Williams is

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Speaker 1: All right, Tennessee a lot of people thought Tennessee would

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Speaker 4: Yeah, taj Spears is one of my favorite players in

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Speaker 2: Ye.

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Speaker 4: He's a home run hitter and he reminds me a

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Speaker 5: That's the one question with Tajay Spears.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you get the receiving utility with

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Speaker 5: We did see it the senior bow.

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Speaker 3: To go a little deeper in the medicals. Two torn

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Speaker 5: That is a huge worry for me.

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Speaker 3: Additionally, Spears has arthritis. Yes, two years old.

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Speaker 1: I mean thor you know, you know I for me,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it could be.

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Speaker 4: I guess I'm on team no give this second contract

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Speaker 5: So like for me, it never matters.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as long as you get the utility out of

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Speaker 4: It's because of those knees, all right, So how.

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Speaker 5: In your mind?

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Speaker 3: Let's go to yes real quick, would you deeper dynasty leagues?

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Speaker 3: People know Hassan Haskins, Yeah, who the Titans drafted in

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Speaker 5: I think it's gotta be. It's gotta be, all right.

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Speaker 3: I'm cutting them in our empire.

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Speaker 5: I think again, I think that's it for Haskins.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's go to Miami, uh where the player who

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Speaker 1: Chain And I think I pronounced that right.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be something to fight all for the rest

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Speaker 5: Yeah, faster than Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and a guy that is totally in line with

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Speaker 4: the McDaniel and the San Francisco forty nine ers Tree, right,

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Speaker 4: Like those are just the running backs that they're attracted to.

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Speaker 4: In that sense of it, I agree with that absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Od Chain reminded me of joab at Best, you know,

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Speaker 5: Way back in the day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's the same sort of thing with I

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Speaker 4: They're dancers, you know, They're guys that want to dance

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Speaker 3: We know two chains, a rappro I'm gonna call a

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Speaker 3: Chain one chain. But he was going, you know me,

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Speaker 3: I'm a best ball DJ and I was drafting before

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Speaker 3: He now going not like eleventh, but he could go

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Speaker 4: The only thing that you're you know, like as far

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Speaker 1: Can he catch well, he can catch okay, But like.

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Speaker 5: That's a mediocre landing spot. I don't.

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Speaker 4: everything like that. As a short area grinder guy, for sure,

439
00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,280
Speaker 4: you're gonna see that right away and you'll see eventually

440
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Speaker 4: if he can be on the bellcoll with ETM. You

441
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,920
Speaker 4: don't need that right away, but yeah, he gonna factor

442
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Speaker 4: in immediately charge you.

443
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Speaker 3: You have to get your Snoop Connor tattoo removed.

444
00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,800
Speaker 1: Now I know it says Snoop is dead. I think

445
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Speaker 1: I think I think it's over for Snoop.

446
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Speaker 5: The uh.

447
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Speaker 1: What I love about Bigsby is you give that guy

448
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Speaker 1: a little crease, and man, does he hit that little crease.

449
00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,000
Speaker 1: Hard and he's through it and I'm like, wow, I

450
00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,800
Speaker 1: did not think you were gonna get through there untouched,

451
00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:53,800
Speaker 1: and yet there he is.

452
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he might he might lack the track speed, but

453
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Speaker 4: he does not lack the the ability to hit the gas.

454
00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,760
Speaker 4: The acceleration there for a big back and then obviously

455
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,600
Speaker 4: he converts that into power runs through the arm tackles.

456
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Speaker 1: A guy, I believe you like a lot, ended up

457
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,679
Speaker 1: with the Chicago Bears, Roachan Johnson in Texas. Talk to

458
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,560
Speaker 1: me about him and his fit in Chicago.

459
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,480
Speaker 4: Rochean Johnson would have gone higher if he had gone

460
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Speaker 4: to any other college. You know, Like he shows up

461
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Speaker 4: at Texas as a quarterback. They ended up switching him

462
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Speaker 4: to running back, right, and then he's stuck behind Bijon

463
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,280
Speaker 4: Robinson his entire career.

464
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Speaker 5: Tough. He's a very good.

465
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Speaker 4: Team like, you know, they'll rave about him as a teammate.

466
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,359
Speaker 4: You know, he also did the special teams and everything

467
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,640
Speaker 4: like that. But he's underrated as a runner just because

468
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Speaker 4: we didn't get to see more reps of him doing that.

469
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Speaker 4: His elusive rating, you just look at the per carry

470
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 4: elusive rating on him was extremely high. The broken tackle

471
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 4: thing he has athleticism two in the Big Package. One

472
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 4: of the cool things about watching his tape is guys

473
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,120
Speaker 4: will try to dive bomb his knees when he gets

474
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Speaker 4: into the.

475
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Speaker 5: Second a third levels.

476
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Speaker 4: He does that thing of jumping over him that we

477
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 4: used to see Gronk do when they would do the

478
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,120
Speaker 4: same thing.

479
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Speaker 5: I really like his talent level.

480
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Speaker 4: We haven't seen him as much as a receiver yet

481
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Speaker 4: because Beijeon got all that work. We do know that

482
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 4: Rochon Johnson is a very good pass blocker. They would

483
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Speaker 4: also use him as a lead blocker, sometimes in front

484
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 4: of Jean, But you're getting that running.

485
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 5: Utility between the tackles. Absolutely.

486
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Speaker 4: You're also getting the pass pro which you're gonna keep

487
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Speaker 4: him on the field. I expect him to be starting

488
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Speaker 4: from day one in Chicago, and.

489
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Speaker 1: I'm starting so ahead of Khalil Herbert.

490
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh he's gonna dust Khalil Herbert. Wow. Yeah, you're

491
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 5: gonna keep him in the dust.

492
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Speaker 4: And Deontay foremant Deontay it's the same sort of skill

493
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Speaker 4: Set's just deontay Foreman is not as good as Rochean

494
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 4: Johnson is.

495
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Rochan and uh A Chane, those two have seen

496
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,160
Speaker 3: the biggest spike in ADP post draft.

497
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,679
Speaker 5: And you can actually give him all the touches.

498
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Speaker 4: And one other cool thing about him that was underrated

499
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Speaker 4: about his profile is he doesn't have that tread on

500
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Speaker 4: the tires as some of these other kids because of

501
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 4: that situation, so you have a more fresh back as well.

502
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Speaker 1: So the Jets end up with a frustrating landing spot

503
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,120
Speaker 1: to me, frustrating landing spot for is he a Bana Canda?

504
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 5: Is it Conda or Avana Canda?

505
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 1: A Banon Canda? Who a lot of people like. But

506
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Speaker 1: the Jets you've got Reese Hall coming back from the

507
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 1: a cl and then Michael Carter was a whatever, fourth

508
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,120
Speaker 1: round pick, fifth round pick a couple of years ago

509
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 1: and did look good last year.

510
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 4: I hated this landing spot for ezy bad landing spot.

511
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 4: It felt like to me, very very bad landing spot. Yeah,

512
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 4: he a Bancanna reminds me a lot of Tevin Coleman.

513
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 4: It's the same sort of upright running style like a

514
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 4: sprinter and that home run speed. If he can just

515
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 4: get that laying down field, he could he could take

516
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 4: it to the house every single time. Thing you wonder

517
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,719
Speaker 4: about him, it's the rest of the stuff the contact, balanced,

518
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 4: different stuff like that, the fully fleshed out game. He

519
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 4: leaves Pitt after he had that one dominant season last year.

520
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 4: But the speed is for real, and that utility of

521
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 4: hitting that crease and then getting forward is for real

522
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 4: as well. I don't know how it's going to work

523
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 4: out in that depth chart, but he's got talent.

524
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Speaker 5: It's gonna I view him.

525
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: I view Izzy as being somebody who dropped this year,

526
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: and you sit on and see how this thing shakes

527
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,479
Speaker 1: out any year. I thought brees Hall looked great, great

528
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 1: when he was healthy.

529
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Speaker 5: I just I don't I just don't know how this

530
00:21:59,000 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 5: thing factors in.

531
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: Assuming Breeze Hall comes back relatively early into the season

532
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: and it's such crowded backfield, I just don't know how.

533
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: I don't see the I don't see the value in redraft,

534
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: and I don't see a lot of dynasty either.

535
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 5: Yeah. How minsol a round flyer in the ladder? For sure?

536
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

537
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 3: How many teams carry four running backs unless ones like

538
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 3: a elite special teams turn guy? And I don't think

539
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 3: any of these guys are in the chess. Yeah, like

540
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 3: one of them has to go. It almost seems like.

541
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: I mentioned a few minutes ago, I was excited for

542
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: a potential landing spot of Zach Sharbonay with Cincinnati that

543
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: did not come to fruition, but eventually they did take

544
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 1: a running back Chase Brown. This is not the guy

545
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to see in Cincinnati, but maybe you like

546
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 1: him more than I do.

547
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 3: You.

548
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts in Chase Brown with knowing Joe

549
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 1: Mixon look cooked last year? Yeah, the opportunity could be here.

550
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 4: I'm not a big fan of Chase Brown, but it's funny,

551
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 4: like I had him rated lower than most people in

552
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 4: the media, but I had him one fifty six on

553
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 4: my board.

554
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 5: He ends up going one sixty three.

555
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 4: So the NFL sort of saw him like guy that

556
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 4: He's a straight line guy that got most of his

557
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 4: production at Illinois running into the second and third levels

558
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 4: on breakaway yards. But like the thing, he doesn't make

559
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 4: anybody miss and he doesn't break a lot of tackles either,

560
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 4: so that's something that sort of has to be manufactured

561
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 4: for him.

562
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 5: That's not good.

563
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 4: It's like the same sort of utility like a guy

564
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 4: like Rocki Moster.

565
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 5: It's just he's not as athletic as he is.

566
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: Chase Brown. The problem is going to be what you're

567
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:16,959
Speaker 1: describing right now.

568
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 5: In the NFL. If you don't have some special.

569
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 4: Trait that gets you out of tackles, you're dead. And

570
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 4: he doesn't catch the ball either, and he also gets

571
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 4: ragged all when he's trying to do pass pro, so

572
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 4: he's not playable on third downs. It's literally just breakaway yards,

573
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 4: which you can get more easily.

574
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 5: In the Big Ten than you can in the NFL.

575
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Speaker 3: So moral of that story is, Chris Evans, maybe you're

576
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 3: sneaky Captain America and running back and people were expecting

577
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 3: things from last year, never got it because some AJP

578
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: Ryan stepped up big time. But he's gone.

579
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just talk about a couple of guys that

580
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: are in landing spots that I think only of dynasty value.

581
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: Eric Gray goes to the Giants. Of course, they've got

582
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley on his franchise tag that so this could

583
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: be his last year. Is there anything any reason to

584
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: think Airic Gray is going to pay dividends next year

585
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: for the Giants.

586
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 5: I could see him doing it.

587
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like he has that well rounded skill set that

588
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,479
Speaker 4: Chase Brown lacks.

589
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 5: Eric Gray is a really good receiver.

590
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 4: You know, he's on the smaller side and he's not

591
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 4: an elite athlete, but he can make you miss. He's

592
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 4: very slippery, again, another thing that Chase Brown lacks. I

593
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 4: like him more than I like Chase Chase Brown. And

594
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 4: we'll see how it goes with the Giants depth chart

595
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 4: going forward, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if

596
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 4: he factored into the back backfield prominently.

597
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: Dallas has a similar situation Tony Pollard on his franchise deal.

598
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: They drafted duce Vaughan in the sixth round. He was

599
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: a very polarizing running back. I saw people that liked

600
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,479
Speaker 1: him enough to be like fourth round, fifth round. Other

601
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: people like I wouldn't draft him period.

602
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 5: What were you?

603
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: What's your take on duce Vaughan and a potential fit

604
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: for Dallas, not necessarily this year, but going forward.

605
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 5: I thought that Dallas was going to take a running

606
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 5: back earlier in the draft. I did too.

607
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, like with the depth chart what it was, and

608
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 4: I don't know they were deferring to some of these

609
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 4: other positions. They made some wonky decisions during the draft.

610
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 4: They needed the tight end two they waited, and I

611
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 4: think they took school maker in terms of that. But

612
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 4: like Duce Vaughan, this is a really good landing spot

613
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 4: for him. And obviously you have his father is working

614
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 4: for the team as well, so you have that thing.

615
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 4: But to me, he's that good or bad. Well, maybe

616
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 4: it's good for his job security, right, yeah, yeah.

617
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 5: It'll make the cut.

618
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 3: He's a scout though, right, It's not like he's going

619
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 3: to be hanging over his shoulder all day. It's not

620
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 3: like he's a offensive Yeah. But for those who don't know,

621
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 3: du s van, little guy like five, very very little,

622
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 3: one seventy yeah.

623
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well into the combine five five one seventy nine.

624
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like five five to five, very small.

625
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 4: And he came out of Kansas State at the same

626
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 4: school that produced Darren Sprawl. So that's right, he got

627
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 4: some of those comps. But that that's a little above

628
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 4: his impart. I think it's probably more a lot to

629
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 4: say Tarik Cohn, yeah for him, Yeah, And I think

630
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 4: he'll probably be used that way, and I think he'll

631
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 4: get on the field as a rookie just situationally. But

632
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 4: you're not going to give him a ton of touches

633
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: right off the bat.

634
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: No, I don't see duce Vaughan being even you know,

635
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: you're notice I did not say he was a Zeke

636
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: replacement because stylistically there's nothing alike, and this is the

637
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: kind of player that very rarely is a fantasy factor. Yeah,

638
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: last guy, I'm gonna mention left running back. I'm gonna

639
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: mention the Vikings in the seventh round to Dwayne McBride,

640
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: who I liked better than this the seventh rounder. And

641
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 1: we know that Dalvin Cook is on super thin ice

642
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: here with the Vikings and not expected to ultimately start

643
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: the season with the team. I'm of the opinion that

644
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: there's an opportunity for McBride to get real carries this year.

645
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 5: Yes, I totally agree with that.

646
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you're looking at the post Delvin world and

647
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: it's Alex Maddison and Ty Chandler, and you put McBride's

648
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 4: skill set in there, I think there's a shot there

649
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 4: that McBride is the best early down bell call guy,

650
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 4: or not bell call, but.

651
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 5: Like early down behind your guy.

652
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, he certainly doesn't bring the receiving that the hands

653
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 4: are the question there. UAB never used him as a

654
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 4: wide receiver or you know, as a receiving option. He

655
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 4: also fumbled a little bit. You know his his fumble

656
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 4: rate is a little bit excessive. But if he can

657
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 4: cut that down, all the skills as a runner are

658
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: going to play. He runs fearless, he runs with power.

659
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 4: He can make people mess and like when when guys

660
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 4: are on the doorstep at him, he can change their

661
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: angle so instead of it being a flushit it becomes

662
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 4: an off angle one. He runs down at the arm tackles.

663
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 4: You look at the PFF the last over their nine

664
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 4: year charting history, there was only three guys that are

665
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 4: two guys ahead of him in terms of missforced tackle

666
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 4: rate miss over the tackle rate, Yes, which are by

667
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: Jon Robinson and Javonte Williams. Dwayne number three all time

668
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 4: on the PFF the last nine years in college foot Wow.

669
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, now it's a round out running backs. Say, we're

670
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 3: assuming Dalvin Cook leaves the Vikings charged. Do you envision

671
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: the Vikings being candidates a candidate to sign like a

672
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: cream hunt Leonard Fournette.

673
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 5: No, not with you, not with McBride.

674
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: And part of it is that much part of it

675
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: is they they legitimately like ty Chandler even though he

676
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: was inactive most of last year.

677
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 5: They they they like that kit a lot, So.

678
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: I really do think they're three deep at receiver running

679
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: back now with Dwayne McBride, So I don't think.

680
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 5: I don't think they're gonna add anybody.

681
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, all right, let's take a break. When

682
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: we come back, let's talk through the notable wide receivers

683
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: and tight ends that were in Day two and beyond

684
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Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft. Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly Paul

685
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: Charchie and Brian Johnson and special guest Thor Neistrom with

686
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: us breaking down the Round two through seven players that

687
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: you need to care about the rookies from the draft.

688
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: We're not doing every single skill position rookie. We're doing

689
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: the guys we think are worthy of mention. We've done

690
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: the running backs, We've done the quarterbacks. Let's talk wide receiver.

691
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: The first receiver taken in the second round, which was

692
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: a bit of a surprise to me, was Jonathan Mingo

693
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: going to the Panthers.

694
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: What do you think?

695
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jonathan Mingo tested better that more athletically than he

696
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 4: acquits himself on the field. In my opinion, he doesn't

697
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 4: move around as well as his athletic profile show it.

698
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 4: He is an okay route runner though just in terms

699
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 4: of the mechanics of it, he eve impressed me with that.

700
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 4: At the senior ball, I knew he was going to

701
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 4: rise between the frame between the athletic profile and then

702
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 4: between how bad this class, right, But his play on

703
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: the field just did not justify the slotter that he

704
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 4: was taking him.

705
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 5: But he's going to see the field early because of it.

706
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: What do you think of the landing spot in Carolina Bryant,

707
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of competition there feelings on you

708
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: know what is probably you know, the last year or

709
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: two of his career and then Terras Marshall Jr.

710
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: It doesn't bode well for Terrist Marshall. I think any

711
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: host people were holding on to for him to be

712
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: Fantasy relevant, Scott Fish is one of them. He was

713
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: our biggest Terrorist Marshall supporter. But uh it, it could

714
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: be worse. It could be a worse landing spot for Mingo.

715
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: Like you guys, I was kind of shocked that he

716
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: was What would this make him counting the first round

717
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: the fourth wide receiver, fifth wide receiver. He was well

718
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: outside the top ten wide receivers being taken on a

719
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: you know, a redraft from a redraft standpoint before the draft,

720
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: so a little bit of a chakra. But he, like

721
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: Thorpe mentioned, just he's built like a he's a he's

722
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: like a DK Metcalf type.

723
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well he reminded me of Chase Claypool a little bit.

724
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, another freak monster athlete exactly.

725
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if he hits his ceiling, that's what it'll be.

726
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was just a little bit above his

727
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 4: import for me. Where he got taken at thirty nine.

728
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: Green Bay could have had their pickup every receiver in

729
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: this draft when they went at fifteen. No, actually they

730
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: traded at what thirteen, I don't know wherever they ended up.

731
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: Middle of the first round they chose to pass on

732
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: the position, and then in the second round, picked fifty,

733
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: they went with Jaden Reid from Michigan State. I did

734
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: not see them going here either, but that's the selection

735
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: they made. What do you think about Jaden Reid's game

736
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: and his potential to crack a thin wide receiver roster

737
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: in Green Bay?

738
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't believe that Jayden Reid is a top

739
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 5: fifty packs.

740
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 4: That's a function of the wide receiver class as much

741
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 4: as anything this wide receiver class fell off a shelf

742
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 4: after those top four guys, and that Bill Simmons has

743
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 4: this concept of press box hot. I think Jayden Reid

744
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 4: is the press box hot of this wide receiver class.

745
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 5: I don't know what that means. What is press box

746
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 5: hot thorn.

747
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 4: It's someone who looks more attractive because there's a dearth

748
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 4: of options, and in this receiver class, because there wasn't

749
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 4: any options. Once he get past those top four that

750
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 4: are super duper attractive, guys start to look attractive when again,

751
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: in a regular class, they just would have been looked

752
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 4: at as a Day three after thought, Yeah, that's what

753
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: I thought about with Jayden Reid. He's under six feet,

754
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 4: he's under one hundred and ninety pounds. He is not

755
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 4: an elite athlete. I like his competitiveness at the catch point.

756
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 4: He has made plays down the field and everything like that.

757
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 4: And you do give him the benefit of the doubt

758
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 4: that Michigan State had a poor quarterback play last couple

759
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 4: of years and stuff like that, But yeah, he would

760
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 4: not have been the guy that I would have chosen

761
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 4: to develop there with the fiftieth pack.

762
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: I had never heard of Jayden Reid before the draft.

763
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: He was not getting drafted in any Best Ball drafts.

764
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: I was doing seats. But now he Yeah, like you

765
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: mentioned that, it's a pretty good landing spy in Green Bay.

766
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: You're to compete with Christian Watson and Romeo Dubbs and

767
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: that's about it.

768
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 5: I wish it was Dubbs. It's Dobs.

769
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: I've been made that mistake a million times because I

770
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: wanted to be Dubbs. Becausedubs is way cooler than Dobbs.

771
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure it is. Uh, do you believe Jaden Reid

772
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: has any impact in your one?

773
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I think they're probably going to try

774
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 4: to start him in year one. But do I think

775
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 4: he's going to be a stud? No, like their second

776
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: round pick from last year. At least he has the potential,

777
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 4: right like he had the athletic profile. You've seen it

778
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 4: all in his college film at NDSU Christian Watson. But

779
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: Jane Reed, I do think they're going to force him

780
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 4: onto the field, and also because of how bad their

781
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 4: receiving core is. But yeah, I'm not super ballish on

782
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 4: him having a huge impact.

783
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: The next receiver to go was to the Kansas City

784
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: Chiefs that picked fifty five is it Raishi, Rashi Rashi

785
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: is Rashi Rice. All right, well then we're gonna go

786
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: with that as correct. Nobody will get mad at me. Yeah,

787
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: well the Rice family might, maybe they listen.

788
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 5: I don't know.

789
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: Rashi Rashi, Yeah, he said, Rashi Rashi Rice, tell me

790
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: about his game?

791
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, right from the starter at SMU, they were

792
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: pounding that kid with targets. He had nearly four hundred

793
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 4: receptions over his career at SMBA. He's won both in

794
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: the slot and outside, and he's wonted all three sectors

795
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 4: of the field.

796
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: I think.

797
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 4: With the Chiefs, and they've mentioned this in some of

798
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: their their comments after the draft, one of the things

799
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 4: that they really like about is his game is the

800
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 4: ability to go downfield. He's only six foot and a

801
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 4: half I believe is what he measured at two oho four,

802
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 4: but he has really long arms. He has arms more

803
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 4: like a six to five guy, and he also has

804
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: a vertical leap and he has ball skills down the

805
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 4: field too. He one of those guys who doesn't get

806
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 4: effected when a DB's trying to go through his back

807
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 4: like for some receivers that's just the end of rep

808
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 4: like on a touchdown field. Yeah, but it doesn't affect

809
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 4: Rashie Rice at all. Some teams were reportedly concerned about

810
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 4: his work ethic, different stuff like that. The Chiefs obviously

811
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 4: were not. They were very aggressive with him. I like

812
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 4: Rashi Rice's ability and potential more on the field by

813
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 4: quite a bit than Jayden Reid.

814
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: All Right, the question with any receiver on Kansas City

815
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: is can they stand out on that team?

816
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 5: We all know.

817
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: Dravis Kelsey is essentially their number one wide receiver, but

818
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: then you got marcz All, this Gantling, Kadarius, Tony sky Moore,

819
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: Richie James, Justin Watson who they like, Justin Ross who

820
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: didn't play last year but he's looking like he'll play

821
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: this year. Would have been a top five wide receiver

822
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 3: last year if not for the neck injury.

823
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: Not for the injury, that is John Ross and me

824
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 4: or Smith Marsette, even former Viking even he's not nothing

825
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: to get too excited about.

826
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: No, he's got a lot of people to compete with

827
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: for targets here.

828
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, he does.

829
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 4: But also there's no like elite guys, right, so he

830
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 4: could very quickly push his way to the top tier

831
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 4: and as far as a perimeter option there and does

832
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 4: stuff that they like. And Mahomes obviously can get the

833
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 4: ball down field. I do think we're going to see

834
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 4: him early on the field.

835
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: Me Cole Hartman was a such a tantalizing talent and

836
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: he had some real game breaking ability, but he could

837
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: never he could never become a reliable receiver and a

838
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: team that desperately needed one correct And I so I

839
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: just don't think the landing spot for any receiver in

840
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: Kansas City as great as it sounds and as open

841
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: as this opportunity is for Russhee Rice, Racchie Rice, Rashie

842
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: Rashie Rice. It doesn't automatically mean that he's going to

843
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: take advantage of.

844
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: You, No, it definitely doesn't. But he has the ball scales,

845
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 4: for instance, that me Col Hartman lacks. But you know,

846
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 4: obviously we seen last year they took Sky more than

847
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 4: this ball skills he did, yeah, and he could win

848
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: them both the inside and the outside, and they didn't

849
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: trust him initially early on. So we'll see if Rashie

850
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 4: Rice can win that trust from the coaching staff in camp.

851
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: All Right, they got a couple others for you, wide

852
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: receiver Marvin Mimms to the Denver Broncos. What's your take

853
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: on Mims? No relation to Denzel, I assume career over

854
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: Denzel Mims.

855
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I love Marvin Mems. Marvin Mims was my

856
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 4: fifth receiver. I like I had him, you know, forty eight,

857
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 4: so I had him around where you know, my board

858
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 4: where Jayden Reid. It ended up going Marvin Mims. First off,

859
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 4: he is the all time leader in Texas high school

860
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 4: football history and receiving yards.

861
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 5: Jesus this day.

862
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 4: Then he goes to Oklahoma and was awesome as a

863
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 4: true freshman. The last two years his game was a

864
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 4: little bit down on the surface, but you keep in

865
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 4: mind the contexts there. Twenty twenty one, Spencer Ratler goes

866
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 4: into a tank. Yeah, into the tank at the beginning

867
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 4: of the season. Then then Lincoln Riley had his foot

868
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 4: out the door. The rest of it wasn't the best

869
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 4: offensive environment there. Then Lincoln Riley leaves for USC last season,

870
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: they bringing Brent Venables.

871
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 5: Their offense was a train wreck.

872
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 4: But Marvin Mins, so he's a smaller kid, comes in

873
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 4: five to eleven and a quarter one eighty three, but

874
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 4: he won on the outside throughout his career at Oklahoma.

875
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 4: He's also played in the slot, so you can do

876
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 4: either one of those. But Marvin Mins, for being a

877
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: smaller receiver, is a fabulous downfield receiver. The ball tracking,

878
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 4: the ball skills downfield. His highlight reel of his best

879
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 4: catches in college is the best in.

880
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 5: This entire receiver class.

881
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 4: He makes absolute circus catches and the downfield utility. Every

882
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 4: single season he was on campus all three years, thirty

883
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 4: five percent or more of his targets came twenty plus

884
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 4: yards downfield. I really like that pick for Denver and

885
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: I expect him to be starting next year.

886
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton was rumored to be on the trading block

887
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: before this.

888
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 3: Pick, and Jerry Judy, they've both kind of been on

889
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: the block.

890
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: Right Well, I think I think Judy's way, way, way better.

891
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna hold Judy. I think Sutton could

892
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: be moved and that would open up a spot for Mims,

893
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: who needs on. Tim Patrick's there too, and Tim Patrick's

894
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: proven himself to be a pretty.

895
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: Good coming off major knee injury.

896
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 5: That's a fair point.

897
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: That was he will be a year move from that

898
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 3: when the season starts, because that was a preseason injury.

899
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a good spot. It could have been

900
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: a better spot for Hims like Kansas City, right Denver?

901
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 3: Denver not too bad.

902
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: Houston is my favorite rebuilding team and I've really kind

903
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: of emotionally back to the Texans right now. What do

904
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: you think of the selection in the third round of

905
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: Nathaniel tank Dell for the Texans.

906
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 5: I like it. I like it.

907
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 4: I'm just the only thing with that is is so

908
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 4: tank Dell obviously has to be a slot receiver. He's

909
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: the teeny tiny you know, it's one hundred and sixty

910
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 4: pounds or so.

911
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love him as a slot.

912
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 4: Nobody could cover him one on one at the senior ball,

913
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 4: which wasn't a surprise at all though those drills are

914
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: tilted towards the offense, and nobody in college could cover

915
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 4: tank Dell. And by the way, it wasn't just like

916
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 4: in the G five. Every single Power five team that

917
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 4: Houston played the last couple of years, tank Dell cooked them.

918
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 4: And then when they faced Cincinnati the playoffs, Cincinnati team

919
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: where they had Zas Gardner the two NFL safeties Kolbe

920
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 4: Bryant on the other side of quarterback, tank Dell cooked

921
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 4: them too. Tankt Dell cooks everybody, but he has to

922
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 4: be a slot receiver in the NFL because of that frame.

923
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 4: Then you look at Houston's roster. They'd taken John Menshi

924
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 4: the year before, who obviously missed last season, but to me,

925
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 4: he was a slot receiver. So are you looking now

926
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 4: at John Mechi as an outside receiver? And then later

927
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 4: on Houston takes a big manufactured touch slot in Xavier Hutchinson,

928
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 4: who that's all he's ever done is just a manufacturer.

929
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: What he did at Iowa State manufactured touches for him

930
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 4: close to the line and let him let him run

931
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: after that. So I don't know what they're doing on

932
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: the boundary there, but yeah, Tank Dell should be starting

933
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 4: in an NFL slot next year, and hopefully that is

934
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 4: open for him in Houston.

935
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: And the two main people that he'll be competing with

936
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: for targets starters Robert Woods very well washed at this point.

937
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Don got a fork sticking out of him.

938
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: Nico Collins good, not great.

939
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 4: The other contextual thing I would say, and Tank like,

940
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 4: if Tank del can win that starting slot, shop into

941
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 4: your one.

942
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 5: CJ.

943
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 4: Stroud threw the ball of metric ton to the slot

944
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 4: at Ohio JS that house he'll be looking for for

945
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 4: Tank Dell.

946
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: Is Tank Dell's game closer to Rondell Moore or you've

947
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: got a comp of Hollywood Brown, Yeah, where what do

948
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: you think? It's more those two are not very stylistic.

949
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 4: It's more of the latter because Rondeo Moore or he's

950
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 4: super explosive, but he's another one of those manufactured touch guys,

951
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 4: right like, and we just don't know if he can

952
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 4: win down the field whatnot.

953
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 5: But no, we know he can't Rondelle more Field.

954
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: I trying to give him the but like you know,

955
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 4: in this case, like tant Dell, he wonted all three

956
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 4: sectors of the field every single year he was at Houston,

957
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 4: Like I think two of the three years he was

958
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 4: at Houston he had PFF grades at every all three

959
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 4: sectors of ninety or above, which is really good. And

960
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 4: that's why I railed against the idea of like he

961
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 4: was too too out well or something like.

962
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 5: That, too to out well.

963
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 4: At Louisville, it was just the manufactured touches short or

964
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 4: else sent them on a fly route. Tank Dell can

965
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 4: actually run routes and he shakes people every single time.

966
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit two more receivers next. Jalen Hyatt was

967
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: expected to go higher than this, and I didn't love

968
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: him as like an early second round pick which where

969
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: many people at him placed. But he drops to like

970
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, mid third round and he ends up

971
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: with the Giant in which gives him a lot of opportunity.

972
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Jalen Hyatt.

973
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, really good landing spot for him. The Giants were

974
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 4: a team that we're thinking about the receiver in round one,

975
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 4: then they watched the flour go right up off them

976
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 4: right and then in a round two one of the

977
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 4: guys they were considering in round one, John Michael Schmidt,

978
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: who filled this enormous.

979
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 5: Hole there as well. Perfect spot was available. It was

980
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 5: a perfect spot for him.

981
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 4: So because of that, they weren't able to pick the

982
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 4: receiver earlier on even though they had a desperate need there.

983
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 5: They take Jalen Hide here.

984
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: Jalen Hyde is a one year Wonder one trick pony,

985
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 4: but the trick is pretty cool.

986
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 5: He can win downfield.

987
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see him in the NFL,

988
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 4: where Josh Hipel was able to move him around the formation,

989
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 4: get him into advantageous matchups, like, for instance, when they

990
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 4: were playing Alabama, Jalen Hyko matchup on DeMarco Hellms, a

991
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: whole bunch of DeMarco Hellmes is a strong safety, like

992
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 4: basically an extra linebacker. But like he got isolated in

993
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 4: the coverage against Jalen Hyde.

994
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 5: That's a bad combo right there.

995
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 4: Jalen Hide had the ten yard head start to get

996
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 4: to him and I was just like bye bye. So like,

997
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 4: but in the NFL, he's actually going to have to

998
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 4: beat people off of the line. They might press him,

999
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: which never happened to him at Tennessee. But again, you

1000
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 4: do have that downfield utility just some of those other

1001
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 4: things he has to prove, but he has a clear shot,

1002
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 4: a clear path to playing time immediately in that receiving court,

1003
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 4: you think so well, I mean who else they got there?

1004
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: Well, they got like five other slot receivers is the problem. Yeah, yeah,

1005
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: none of them are that great. But you know Paris Campbell,

1006
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 3: won Dale Robinson, Jameson Crowders, Charlie Shephard. It makes me

1007
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 3: love Darren Waller even more.

1008
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're kind of like the Texas.

1009
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 4: They both have more slots on a casino but like,

1010
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 4: but you know as far as high like yeah, I mean,

1011
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 4: like you probably do have to play him in the slot.

1012
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 5: But he is the pop the top fella there.

1013
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: I want to talk about one more wide receiver already

1014
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: at what our longest offseason show of the year.

1015
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 5: But it was a loaded guy to talk to Josh.

1016
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: Downs just because what I loved about Josh downs despite

1017
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: the relatively small stature, dude's got the it factor. I mean,

1018
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: he wants to eat, just a battler going for balls.

1019
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 5: He's fearless.

1020
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: I liked Josh downs a lot, and I was a

1021
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: little surprised that he fell to the third mid third

1022
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 1: round in the Indianapolis Colt.

1023
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 5: I'm totally with you, charge. I love Josh Downes' game.

1024
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 4: Like you know, he gets the price point to flight

1025
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 4: it because he's not a boundary receiver. He's just a slot.

1026
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 4: He's just gonna be a slot in the NFL. But

1027
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 4: we know he's gonna be a good one. And immediately,

1028
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 4: like the last couple of years uns, he didn't really

1029
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 4: have any other skill guys, they were just pounding targets

1030
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 4: to Jess Jones.

1031
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 5: He converted all those. He's extremely efficient, his hands are

1032
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 5: really good.

1033
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 4: Take a look at the drop rate, take a look

1034
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 4: at the tape. The other thing I really like about

1035
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 4: him in terms of that you're working in an NFL slot,

1036
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: You're gonna be moving around a lot of garbage stuff

1037
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 4: like that, picking through traffic, whatnot. You're gonna have to

1038
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 4: catch the ball around other guys. Josh Downes is contested

1039
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 4: catch rate in college was awesome just in a vacuum,

1040
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 4: but particularly for a receiver that's five nine one seventy one. Yeah,

1041
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 4: he's gonna show ISJAA McKenzie and whoever they got out

1042
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 4: of there right away, he will be their starting slot

1043
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 4: on day one.

1044
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 5: He will Paris Campbell gone. That opens up opens up

1045
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 5: another Isaiah.

1046
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 3: Isaiah McKenzie is who will be competing against in the slot,

1047
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: and he should beat him out. And downs was a

1048
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: guy who was going as the sixth seventh rookie wide

1049
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 3: receiver in three draft draft and I drafted a ton

1050
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 3: of them. People are down on him now because of

1051
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: the draft capital, but I'm averaging down in terms of

1052
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 3: like I'm still buying at a lower price. I love

1053
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: I love Josh too.

1054
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 5: I'm with you obviously.

1055
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson will be throwing in passes and hopefully maybe

1056
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: this year, maybe next year, we'll find out more how

1057
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: that'll work out.

1058
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 5: With time.

1059
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: Thorn Ice from is our guest, Uh, what is your type?

1060
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: You have a title NFL Draft Analysts, college football analyst

1061
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: for fantasy pros, and.

1062
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 5: I like it.

1063
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: I want to talk about five tight ends beginning and

1064
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: again the one first rounders off the board.

1065
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 5: Dalton Kin kid it was not the was the first

1066
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 5: player taken. We talked about him last week.

1067
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: By the way, even more recently follow him, he was

1068
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 3: getting plus odds and Thor said he will be the

1069
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: first tight end taking.

1070
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 5: Uh.

1071
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: The Lions end up going tight end early in round two,

1072
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: a position of great need for them after they let t. J.

1073
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: Hutch Hockinson go, And by the way, they still threw

1074
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: to the tight ends, you know, the anonymous tight end.

1075
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: They still involved those guys, but they ended up going

1076
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: with Sam Laporta from Iowa, who was shockingly productive in

1077
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: an offense that couldn't do anything basically that didn't involve

1078
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: Sam Laporta.

1079
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, And like you mentioned, I mean, just

1080
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 4: about as bad of an offensive environment as you can

1081
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 4: come from. Last year, Iowa was one hundred and thirtyeth

1082
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 4: out of one hundred and thirty one FPS teams and scoring,

1083
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 4: they were terrible. Four players had. Individual players in the

1084
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 4: FPBS had more offensive touchdowns than the IOWA.

1085
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 5: Offense did last season. That's amazing, So it's kind of crazy.

1086
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 4: But the even crazier thing is if i WOUA didn't

1087
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 4: have Sam Laporta, they would have been the worst FBS

1088
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 4: offense in the history of FBS. Like they would manufacture

1089
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 4: all these touches to Sam Laporta and then just watched

1090
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 4: Sam Laporta break tackles. Last year he had twenty four

1091
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 4: Smiths tackles, which was the top five all time individual

1092
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 4: season during the PFF charting era of that nine years,

1093
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 4: like I mentioned before, and then also a first down

1094
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 4: and touchdown monster even on that terrible team. Two thirds

1095
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 4: of his catches the last two years win for either

1096
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 4: a first down or a touchdown. The agility and the

1097
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: strength is what stands out about him in conjunction.

1098
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 5: With each other.

1099
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 4: He's super agile along the route pass, so that's how

1100
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 4: he opens up the throwing windows for the quarterback. And

1101
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 4: then when he gets the ball in his hands, that's

1102
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 4: what makes him so good.

1103
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 5: After the catch.

1104
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 4: He's a yeah god for a tight end, and yeah

1105
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 4: he's going to be productive as a rookie for Detroit.

1106
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: Pretty good track record for Iowa, producing titles.

1107
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: No kidding Dallas, they know what they're doing there. In

1108
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: a different year, Sam Laporta would have been a first rounder.

1109
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 5: Yeah he could have been. Yeah, in a different offense

1110
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 5: for sure.

1111
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 4: Well that too, right, Yeah, he would have acquitted himself

1112
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: better for sure.

1113
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 5: So I agree with that.

1114
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: Let's go to the guy that everybody thought. You know

1115
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: all most of the mock drafts had Michael Mahyer going

1116
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: as the first overall tight end in this draft and

1117
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: in the first round. Many Adam Pegg going to Dallas.

1118
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 5: You didn't.

1119
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: He ends up with the Raiders. Is the Darren Waller replacement.

1120
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: Talk to me about Michael Mahyer.

1121
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1122
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 4: The reason the NFL started deflated his value just a

1123
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 4: little bit is because he doesn't give you the receiving

1124
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 4: utility had the other two guys. He he ain't go

1125
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 4: downfield and get it like Dalton Kinka does. He doesn't

1126
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: create the separation like Dalton kin Kay does, and he

1127
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 4: doesn't have the run after the catch that Sam Laparta does.

1128
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: But what he has on both those guys is Michael

1129
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 4: Mayer is a true inline tight end who blocks his

1130
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 4: butt off and is really good at that. Yeah, and

1131
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: as a receiver, the thing you get from him, it's

1132
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 4: he catches the ball out to the intermediate area without

1133
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 4: creating the separation. But his special sauce is contested situations.

1134
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 4: And he's even talked about this in the media of

1135
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 4: like how he doesn't even care, like he actually wants

1136
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 4: to field the guy along his route because he wants

1137
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 4: to pin him to his back. And last year in

1138
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 4: Notre Dame they didn't have any other offensive skill guys.

1139
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: They're starting quarterback gets injured right away. They have this

1140
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 4: newd alarm scrambler that comes in Drew Pine to be

1141
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 4: the quarterback for the rest of this season. They forced

1142
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 4: a bunch of touches to Michael Mahyer and the defense

1143
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 4: new was coming. He got double team, he'd still come

1144
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 4: down with the catch.

1145
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: Packers needed a tight end badly, and they go to

1146
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: Luke Musgrave in the early second round. He's got an

1147
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: opportunity to walk right into that starting job.

1148
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 5: Yeah he does.

1149
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 4: It's funny when the Packers made that pick, I was like,

1150
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 4: you dopes, there's a better receiver tight end that's on

1151
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 4: the board right now, and then they took him around later.

1152
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 4: I think Tucker Kraft ends up having a better career

1153
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 4: for the Packers Luke musk Grave does. But Musgrave, he

1154
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: is a really interesting thought experiment. He barely you know.

1155
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 4: I think he had thirteen college starts or something like that.

1156
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 4: Last year was supposed to be his breakout season, but

1157
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 4: after two games he ends up getting hurt. For the

1158
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 4: rest of the year, we don't get to see him whatnot.

1159
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 4: He did play really well in those first two games.

1160
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 4: The thing you like most about him, it's the athletic profile.

1161
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 4: In that frame. He has shown to have an aptitude

1162
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,959
Speaker 4: to go downfield and get it as well. But he's

1163
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 4: not good in the intermediate range, mostly because he doesn't

1164
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 4: have the agility with him. It's all the straight line

1165
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 4: line explosion, so he just doesn't have any nuance with

1166
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 4: with the route running stuff like that. He's not going

1167
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: to create the separation. He also doesn't break tackles. I

1168
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 4: told you guys last year Samu Laporte had twenty by

1169
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 4: himself in one season.

1170
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 5: Luke Musgrave over his entire career had two. That's it. Yeah,

1171
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 5: that's it.

1172
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: It's kind of It reminds me of how when the

1173
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 3: Ravens drafted Hayden Hurst and then took Mark Andrews rounds later, Right,

1174
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: they took a much better tight end.

1175
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 5: Right.

1176
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 3: If I'm pairing it, I'm looking to pay a cheap

1177
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: tight end with a Jordan Love and a best ball stack.

1178
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 3: I like Tucker Craft more than a musk Grave.

1179
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: We'll just go right to talk. I'm gonna skip to

1180
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: Tucker Craft. Okay, let's do it. Let's go to Tucker Craft.

1181
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: Now.

1182
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: He's the Packers also end up taking him. He is

1183
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: the farm boy from Minnesota that ended up playing at

1184
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: South Dakota State. He was highly productive there. Talk to

1185
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: me about Tucker Craft as the other option.

1186
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, a six five kid, two fifty four, and he

1187
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 4: has a ninety seven percentile size adjusted athletics score, you know,

1188
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 4: during the pre draft process. And he was dominant at

1189
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 4: the FCS level too.

1190
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1191
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 4: The only thing you're disappointed about was last offseason around

1192
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 4: this time, a whole bunch of FBS programs. We're going

1193
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 4: to offer him a bag to go and transfer there

1194
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 4: or whatever with nil money. He wanted to stick it

1195
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 4: out and finish things with his teammates. You would have

1196
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 4: liked to have seen him for one year in the

1197
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 4: FSA proven that concept, because the only Nippick you can

1198
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 4: make about like him on film is he was so

1199
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 4: dominant and such an athleticis a manager all everybody like

1200
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 4: a lot of his catches, he already just blew by

1201
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 4: the guy and then he would just be an open

1202
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 4: space and then you just be trucking down the field whatnot.

1203
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 4: You wanted to see him against better athletes and then

1204
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 4: you look like the.

1205
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 5: Route running sort of nuanced with that.

1206
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't get to see that quite as much,

1207
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 4: but I mean the receiving skill was all there on tape.

1208
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 4: The athletic profile speaks for itself. I do think he's

1209
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 4: gonna be better than Musgrave in the NFL.

1210
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna draft one of the two packer rookie tight

1211
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: ends for your dynasty team. Is it Luke Musgrave or

1212
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: is it Tucker Craft?

1213
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 5: For me? Tucker Craft? Easy, same.

1214
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna get him cheaper because people just look

1215
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 3: at the.

1216
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: Draft draft equity, right. Yeah, I'm on Tucker Craft's game.

1217
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: I think he's got way more upside, you know, just

1218
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: that Position's really hard to get fantasy producers out of

1219
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: your tight end position. But Tucker Craft has the upside

1220
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: to be a top five fantasy tight end in three years. Yeah,

1221
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: I just don't see it when I watch Luke Musgrave.

1222
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 5: Yeah I don't either.

1223
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 4: And a lot of this stuff with Musgrave it's you know,

1224
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 4: you would say it's projection, but really it's just a

1225
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 4: leap of faith because you've just never seen it before.

1226
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 4: So he has Musgrave has to stay on the field.

1227
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 4: He's also got the durability issues. So we'll see, I'll go.

1228
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: I didn't spend a lot of time on Luke shoon Maker,

1229
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: who ends up being the Dallas Cowboys tight end when

1230
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: everybody thought it'd be Dalton Kin Kate or some or

1231
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Mayer. I don't know that much about

1232
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: his game. Who tell me about Luke Shoonmaker.

1233
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 3: I can tell you he's old as hell, right, like

1234
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 3: twenty six years old almost, he's about in twenty five.

1235
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1236
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 4: So he goes to Michigan an another tight end factory.

1237
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 4: And the thing you like about him he plays inline.

1238
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 4: He's in line size and it was six five two

1239
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 4: fifty one and he blocks and he's.

1240
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 5: He's a good blocker. Yeah, but like he goes.

1241
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 4: I mean he opened people's eyes by going into the

1242
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 4: pre draft process ninety eight percentile size adjusted to athleticism. You

1243
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 4: didn't get to see that as much. Or Michigan because

1244
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 4: they just never used him as a receiver. So it's like,

1245
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 4: was Michigan who has a really smart coaching staff, where

1246
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 4: they miss using him by not using him more as

1247
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 4: a receiver or is he just not good at that?

1248
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 4: We only got limited looks there. You know, the other

1249
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 4: stuff speaks for itself. You know, you have the athleticism thing,

1250
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 4: but it seems like Dallas is sort of you know,

1251
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 4: a hope and a prayer as far as the rest

1252
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 4: of it goes. Because they missed out on some of

1253
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 4: those better Titans, or they reached for Schoonmaker over some

1254
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 4: of those guys. It's funny, my compound schoonmaker was Dalton Scholtz.

1255
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 4: Who's the reason that Yeah, right, he was taking because.

1256
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 5: He walked out the door.

1257
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 4: But like you know, as far as for fantasy people,

1258
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 4: it's just a total unknown that receiving utility. So even

1259
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 4: though I do think he's gonna play early, I just

1260
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 4: don't know how that's gonna project.

1261
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: A really disappointing landing spot for the final tight end.

1262
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Darnell Washington, the Big oh

1263
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: as they called him at Georgia. I loved the potential

1264
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: upside of Darnell Washington as a freaking beast. He's sixty

1265
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: seven or six foot I think he's six foot seven,

1266
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy pounds.

1267
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 5: But with the with the ball in his.

1268
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: Hands, Darnell Washington is just shredding dudes. He's nimble, he's

1269
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: got catch radius. I'm like, what it took me a

1270
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: while to fire out why he didn't get more balls

1271
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: at Georgia until I found out how good brock bers

1272
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: is and how he's gonna be like a top five

1273
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: player next year. Talk to me a little bit about

1274
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: Darnell Washington tough land spot with the Steelers.

1275
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sure is, and obviously they have an intention

1276
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: to go to more twelve personnel and whatnot. But yeah,

1277
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 4: you're behind Friarmuth as far as the first receiving tight end.

1278
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: And that's certainly what happened to him at Georgia when

1279
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 4: he was stuck behind Brock Bowers. Who's going to be

1280
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 4: the first tight end taking off the board in the

1281
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 4: next draft, right, And you know, like, if you're going

1282
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 4: to look at Darna Washington glass half full as a receiver, it's, oh,

1283
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 4: you know, he didn't get the extra utility because Brock

1284
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 4: Bowers on the roster. Eric Gilbert was active for a

1285
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 4: little bit as well. Who he was the number one

1286
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 4: tight end in his class. Yeah, but Darnall Washington, he's

1287
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 4: one of the better blocking tight ends who's come out

1288
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 4: in like the last decade. In fact, when he was

1289
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 4: coming out as a recruit, there was a whole bunch

1290
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 4: of blue bloods that wanted him as an offensive tackle to.

1291
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 5: Ball him up.

1292
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 4: I bet he played games in college at over two

1293
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty pounds. I think he's in the two

1294
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 4: sixty four. That was like him on a diet. But

1295
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 4: he's going to be playing games around that in the NFL.

1296
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 4: The receiving utilities, it's the one thing that we just

1297
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 4: don't know. He put on a show during the pre

1298
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 4: draft process, but in college he only caught two balls

1299
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 4: to travel more than twenty yards in the air. Despite

1300
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 4: that having a lower aid dot, he had a drop

1301
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 4: rate over ten percent. So it's like, you know, if

1302
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 4: he's gonna be the intermediate safety blanket guy. He can't

1303
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 4: be dropping that many masses whatnot. But like, there just

1304
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 4: weren't looks manufactured for him. At Georgia, he was always

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Speaker 4: the you know, the third fourth option on a play

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Speaker 4: or whatever. In the NFL, can he prove anymore with that, well,

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Speaker 4: we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But the blocking spiece for itself, it's what's gonna get

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Speaker 4: him onto the field.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 3: I have some medicals too, right that they did that point.

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Speaker 4: Medical different foot injuries last year and some teams were

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Speaker 4: concerned about that potentially being a recurring thing.

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Speaker 5: Yep. Reasonable.

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Speaker 1: Darnell Washington though, a freaky upside if the receiving comes together.

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Speaker 1: You've got Gronconian stature in Darnell Washington, and if it

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Speaker 1: turns out he can be a reliable receiver, and it's

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Speaker 1: you know, now, now it's I'm gonna go all Jelanie

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Speaker 1: Woods on myself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have been a very sexy pick for

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Speaker 3: the Jaguars if they took Washington.

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Speaker 5: They took a tight end.

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Speaker 3: Brenton Strange, We're not gonna talk about because I don't

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Speaker 3: even know if he's a real person, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure, Thor, but that would have been a fun

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Speaker 3: pick for Jacksonville, Washington.

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Speaker 5: There another guy, a strange pick.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I see what you did.

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Speaker 5: Very nice, Thor.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for all your contributions to the show. I mean,

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Speaker 1: perfect guy to have on right now. We're blessed to

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Speaker 1: have you in the Twin Cities. We can just bring

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Speaker 1: into my kitchen.

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Speaker 5: Hey, appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fantastic, lots of fun and I hope this has

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Speaker 1: been a valuable exercise, especially for those in dynasty leagues

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Speaker 1: are doing deeper dives on the players after round number one.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next week and we've also got all

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Football Weekly micro editions. This we're gonna put this.

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Speaker 1: know this. We're gonna drop this a little earlier than

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Speaker 1: our usual Fridays for the big shows, just because it's

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Speaker 1: so topical.

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Speaker 5: Right it's the draft.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's still buzzing from the draft from the weekend, so

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Speaker 1: we'll drop this one a little bit earlier. But you'll

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