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Speaker 4: On Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington Jonas Knox in for Colin.

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Speaker 4: You can hear Lebar and I alongside Brady Quinn weekday morning,

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Speaker 4: the country. If you're listening on the podcast, we appreciate

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Speaker 4: you doing so. When LaVar and I are together and

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Speaker 4: there's no Brady Quinn, we do a little show called

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Speaker 4: Black and Drack. For those wondering, I look like Dracula

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Speaker 4: and LaVar I look like a black man. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: it's radio, so your imagination run wild.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if that's an opinion or a fact.

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Speaker 6: And it rhymes with the word black.

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Speaker 4: So when we started the show, the legal tampering period

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Speaker 4: started in the NFL quote legal tampering period where basically

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Speaker 4: everybody's been fooling around on their better halves and trying

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Speaker 4: to pretend like there was no conversations going on.

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Speaker 3: And so coming back.

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Speaker 5: There, there's been moves that have been made.

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Speaker 4: There's another one to report here, and we've been getting

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Speaker 4: it all today from the tongue in Tuey himself, who's

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Speaker 4: got the latest on the transaction wire and the breaking

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Speaker 4: news from around the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Breaking news from Fox Sports. So this is an underrated one, guys.

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Speaker 7: Tight end Isaiah likely from the Ravens heading to the

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Speaker 7: Giants on a three year deal. I like him a lot.

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Speaker 7: I like him a lot. I think this is a bit.

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Speaker 7: I think this is a really good signing for New.

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Speaker 4: York, which is code for he helped me win a

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Speaker 4: couple of games in fantasy one year and you've never

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Speaker 4: forgotten it.

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Speaker 5: That's that's what that means.

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Speaker 8: I know.

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Speaker 4: He's Yeah, and so the Giants are gonna add a piece,

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Speaker 4: and it felt like Baltimore was gonna probably move on

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Speaker 4: from him because I didn't they give Mark Andrews a

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Speaker 4: new deal last year? Yeah, I think yeah, and then

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Speaker 4: they just took on Max Crosby and yeah, so like yeah,

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Speaker 4: they got to cut costs here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's one.

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Speaker 6: It's interesting because you know, Isaiah Likely is not you know,

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Speaker 6: he's not super old.

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Speaker 4: Twenty five years old, he'd be a sophomore in college

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Speaker 4: now twenty five. That's a really good pool. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know what they have Theo Johnson already

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Speaker 6: there in New York, who is a young budding superstar

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Speaker 6: in my opinion at the position, not because he's a

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Speaker 6: good that that it creates necessary depth at the position.

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Speaker 6: Uh and could add a different a different weapon in

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Speaker 6: terms of what you know, what you're able to do

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Speaker 6: with the different packages. You know, you may run twelve

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Speaker 6: personnel more often than what you you would have without

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Speaker 6: having a talent like Likely being on your team, and

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Speaker 6: could also provide more blocking, possible blocking, better blocking. In

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Speaker 6: terms of a double threat, you got two tight ends

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Speaker 4: And also familiarity with John Harbaugh. There there you go,

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Speaker 4: that would make good, that would make some sense. And

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Speaker 4: clearly he's you know, he liked him in Baltimore because

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Speaker 4: I think and he kind of Isaiah likely was one

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Speaker 7: They're actually biggest free agent deal for running back ever,

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Speaker 7: Alec Pierce setting back to Indianapolis four years, eighty four

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Speaker 7: million guaranteed. And off of that, Michael Pittman traded to

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Speaker 6: To me, I feel like that's the outside of Max Crosby,

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Speaker 6: what what was it? A broken ankle or broken arm?

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Speaker 6: What was the big tight end from the Steelers?

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Speaker 4: Parnell Washington, Washing? Sorry Washington, but what did he break?

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Speaker 4: He broke something, right, he broke somebody. Well he went

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Speaker 3: That's a big dude.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was a broken but darn Washington,

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Speaker 4: Darnell Washington.

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Speaker 5: What I say?

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Speaker 4: You say Darn said Parnell and not Dave or something.

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Speaker 5: I mean.

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Speaker 6: We got from a Friday, you know, the one that

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Speaker 6: what I did this morning anyway, and you got friar mouth.

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Speaker 6: If he's coming back, you got a nice tight ends

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Speaker 6: tight ends room. But the receiving corps was lacking. They

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Speaker 6: I think this has the potential of being the biggest

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Speaker 6: think Pittman Jr. He's he's still a very young, young receiver,

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Speaker 6: nice talent. I would have never thought that the Colts

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Speaker 6: an either or situation there and and for Pittsburgh. Like

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Speaker 6: you said, Towey, Uh, I think it's definitely is a

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Speaker 6: move in the direction of saying, you know, look at this, Aaron,

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Speaker 6: you have two nice targets that you could throw to

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Speaker 6: at the receiver's position. Maybe you give it one more go,

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Speaker 6: let's see if we could do.

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Speaker 7: It with and the Mike McCarthy. The stars seemed to

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Speaker 7: be a ligning for Aaron return to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: The Jets have made some moves, right. I think Joseph

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Speaker 4: Asai was one of the moves they made.

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Speaker 5: They just came in.

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Speaker 4: There's been a couple of Jets moves that have been

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Speaker 4: made like they've been actually somewhat active here, which would

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Speaker 4: beg the question for me.

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Speaker 9: Why because they trying to get better? Okay, hat on

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Speaker 9: the Jets trying to improve. If you want to get better,

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Speaker 9: go move to the CFL. Okay, what are we talking

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Speaker 6: Like if you're a bad person, like somebody starts saying like, like,

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Speaker 6: for instance, myself, I'll try to create some better habits

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Speaker 6: in my life, do things better, And all you do

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Speaker 6: is is criticize me and give me a hard time

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Speaker 6: for trying.

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Speaker 3: To be better.

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Speaker 6: Like, if you're a bad person, it doesn't mean you

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Speaker 6: have to stay being a bad person, Jonas, Like, I

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Speaker 6: don't understand, Like you can't be committed to one thing

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Speaker 6: all all that you're guaranteed it's changed.

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Speaker 4: I got news for you, Jeffrey Dahmer. Don't come up

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Speaker 4: to me and tell me you put the cart back

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Speaker 4: in the front of the store and you didn't leave

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Speaker 4: it in the parking lot. The damage has been done,

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Speaker 4: pal Okay, Like, I don't want to hear so you

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Speaker 4: can never be redeemed.

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Speaker 5: You can never redeem yourself.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to hear that you picked up a

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Speaker 4: cup that somebody left next to the trash can and

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Speaker 4: you put it in there so nobody else had to

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Speaker 4: clean it. All right, the damage is done. You're the Jets.

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Speaker 4: You're awful. Okay, we've seen it, we understand it. We

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Speaker 4: know what's happened. Next year, is gonna look just like

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Speaker 4: this year looked.

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Speaker 5: What do we come on?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, that's an opinion.

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Speaker 5: Jonas knock.

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Speaker 2: I'm a changed man.

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Speaker 4: I cle my dog took a crap out in front

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Speaker 4: of the neighbor's house, but I cleaned it up. Okay,

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Speaker 4: you've got three bodies in the basement. Okay, well explain

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Speaker 4: those and then tell me that all the good dj start.

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Speaker 6: We gotta start somewhere. God, they gotta start somewhere. Nobody starts,

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Speaker 6: Nobody starts at Z. You know, sometimes you gotta start

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Speaker 6: at the beginning of the alphabet.

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Speaker 3: Bro, Like, like, let's work our way to the end.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, imagine if we put that type of

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Speaker 6: evil on the Chicago Bears, what they could never be

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Speaker 6: any good because they haven't been good for so long?

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Speaker 4: The who the Chicago Bears at the Hammond Bears. By

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Speaker 4: the way, get to get a correct Indiana bearris.

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Speaker 7: Another big move guy's last hour. LaVar and I had

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Speaker 7: some fun with this one. Malik Willis first quarterback off

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Speaker 7: the board heading to Miami, three year deal guaranteed.

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Speaker 5: LeVar thinks he's a thinks I think there could be.

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Speaker 3: Mario Davis just signed with the Jets too.

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Speaker 5: How about it?

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Speaker 3: Why what are we doing?

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Speaker 6: Because it's a great market if you're a part of

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Speaker 6: the day. Look at what happened in Foxborough this year.

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Speaker 6: You had all those free agents go to to be

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Speaker 6: made it all the way to the super Bowl. These

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Speaker 6: guys are looking at the opportunity Aaron Glenn for for

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Speaker 6: whatever reason or another that you want to disparage him.

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Speaker 6: Aaron Glenn is a fine coach and even more of

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Speaker 6: a fine human being, and people won't want to play

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Speaker 6: for Aaron.

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Speaker 5: He should get out too. I'm telling you.

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Speaker 3: He made a movie about it. Maybe they should change

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Speaker 3: it to the Jets edition. So like the chapter to

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Speaker 3: get Out Jets Facility.

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Speaker 4: It's almost like everybody like you kind of know what

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Speaker 4: teams are doing, Like, hey, listen, we're okay if we're

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Speaker 4: bad this year, you know, because we'll get the number

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Speaker 4: one Picknick. And it's like the Jets can't quite figure

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Speaker 7: Isn't this kind of a move though, to bring like

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Speaker 7: an older veteran just to kind of keep them afloat,

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Speaker 7: And you don't, you know, you talked about building like

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Speaker 7: looking for that quarterback next year. I mean, this is

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Speaker 7: what the Texans did with Lovey Smith. They brought in

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Speaker 7: and then they they were sort of building up for

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Speaker 7: that next like that next regime, right with the Miko and.

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Speaker 4: To get them, Yeah, they got they against.

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Speaker 5: The cult Smith.

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Speaker 4: Well that was gonna happen in Davis Mills and his

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Speaker 4: but I think that's what the Jets are doing. They're

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Speaker 6: That has become the new norm and That's what's generally

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Speaker 3: Because they're trying to win. They're trying to win.

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Speaker 6: If I'm looking at my division, if I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: Take pack, and if you're a Jets fan you're listening

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Speaker 6: Like, why do we get Why are you so doom

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Speaker 4: I just I don't understand what all of these moves

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Speaker 4: But it's all these half measures, Like it's never just

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Speaker 4: I just don't know that anything's gonna work there.

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Speaker 4: I just it's just an underwhelming organization all the way through.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, let's assume let's just say Justin Field's

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Speaker 5: Well? Also, do we even know if he's quarterback? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: And and I've heard I think you're looking for a

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Speaker 8: To that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's under contract for this year, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: He's looking around going damn it. They will find they

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Speaker 4: I don't know who they find. It would have been

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Speaker 6: It would have been a horrible situation for Malik Willis

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Speaker 6: a perfect move, all right. Well, Halfley Nilson from Green,

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Speaker 6: I think it's a very difficult position to be in

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Speaker 4: So you did the NFL draft coverage on Fox Sports

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Speaker 5: You know what that sounded like. He's relief peace.

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Speaker 4: That was like Morgan Freeman finding the box at the

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Speaker 4: of here, like Joe Douglas is looking for Dufrain polishing

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Speaker 3: Like where are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna get the hell out of here.

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Speaker 6: It has not been the easiest environment to build in.

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Speaker 6: And I'm just curious again you bring in a high

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Speaker 6: But let me tell you something, Aaron Glenn is a

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Speaker 6: that's what this is all about, seeing things through. People

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Speaker 6: That's why Dan Campbell brought Aaron Glenn in with him

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Speaker 3: So to me, you got to give it a chance.

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Speaker 6: There has to be a chance that's given to Aaron

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Speaker 5: up Momentarice.

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Speaker 6: That's exciting. Love TJ. Get some opinions from him. He

442
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 6: was on site at the Combine this year as well,

443
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Speaker 6: does a lot of development and training with the incoming

444
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 6: receivers quite a bit out here in California, so it'd

445
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 6: be nice to get some words from him.

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Speaker 5: Hear what he has to say about some of these topics.

447
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Speaker 4: That position is taken over man receivers. If you were

448
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 4: if you were like if you're a dad and your

449
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 4: kid really wanted to play running back, wouldn't you just

450
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 4: be like, hey, buddy, learn how to catch, Learn.

451
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 5: How to catch?

452
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Speaker 6: If you're playing for running back, absolutely, yeah, other positions, like,

453
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 6: you know, I think my guy's at the right position.

454
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 6: Defensive end, edge rushers, edges are are are in pretty

455
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 6: pretty big demand right now as well.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, and now welcome in the Pro bowler himself,

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Speaker 4: TJ houshman Zada. You hear him Saturdays with LeVar Arrington

458
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Speaker 4: and Plexico Burris on up on Game Here on Fox

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Speaker 4: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: TJ.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, man, man, I'm good.

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Speaker 8: How y'all doing good?

463
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Speaker 6: Good, Good to hear your voice. Good to talk to

464
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Speaker 6: you during the day. You know, how's the weather, how's

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Speaker 6: it going? Sounds very sounds like it's good.

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Speaker 8: I'm pulling up to the training. A couple of clouds

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Speaker 8: in the sky, but it's about seventy five degrees man,

468
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Speaker 8: and gets no better.

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Speaker 5: Seventy five does look like a good day, TJ.

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Speaker 4: We were talking about this before you came on, that

471
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 4: the receiver position has completely taken over. Now we're back

472
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Speaker 4: in the day next to quarterback. Running back was really

473
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,479
Speaker 4: the guy and that was. You know, so many teams

474
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 4: based their offenses around the running back, and now you're

475
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 4: seeing receivers. Michael Pittman Junior just got traded at Pittsburgh,

476
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 4: but they gave him a new deal upon his arrival.

477
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 4: Alec Pierce just got you know, one hundred and fourteen

478
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 4: million or whatever it is. Where do you think the

479
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 4: switch started to happen where the receiver position became one

480
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 4: of the most important positions and highly paid positions on

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Speaker 4: the field.

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Speaker 8: It's when the emphasis went to the quarterback. Really, receivers

483
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 8: and quarterback, you know, we hand in hand. We like

484
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 8: feeding socks, you know, nes and feed however you want to.

485
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 8: They go hand in hand. Where if you have a

486
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Speaker 8: good quarterback and you don't have a good receiver, your

487
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 8: quarterback is going to have hard times to really reach

488
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Speaker 8: ultimate success. You look at Josh Sally before he had

489
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 8: Stefan Diggs, it was like, ah, he's very talented. He

490
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 8: got Stepan Diggs, It's like, why he's MVP Kennedy, Although

491
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 8: he won MVP without Diggs. Diggs elevant this game. Since

492
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 8: Diggs is left, everybody's saying, Josh s Allen needs what

493
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 8: a flight receiver and so it just goes hand in hand.

494
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 8: The quarterback needs a receiver, but the receiver also needs

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Speaker 8: a quarterback. I'm happy for all these dudes. Man, the

496
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 8: amount of money that they're making is life changing, his

497
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 8: generational type of money. And just hope everybody can stay

498
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 8: healthy and manage their money the correct way.

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Speaker 3: TJ.

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Speaker 6: We saw that Malique Willis just got picked up by

501
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 6: the Miami Dolphins and Tua was released for as large

502
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 6: a dig cap hit as he represented, they released him

503
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 6: seemingly to have made way to bring in Malik Willis.

504
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Speaker 6: I'm not so certain that that's what it's going to

505
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 6: be him being the starter, But give me some perspective

506
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Speaker 6: on that. Do you like the move like and what's

507
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 6: next for Tua? You know, in your estimation there's.

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Speaker 8: Always going to be a spot for Tua when you're

509
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 8: as accurate as he is. The I mean, the big

510
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 8: worry with two is when he gets hit, is he

511
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 8: getting up? How is he going to react? And that's

512
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 8: all I think that's just gonna always be in the

513
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 8: back of everyone's mind because of the incidents that he's

514
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 8: been through and they're alarming. But if he wants to

515
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 8: continue to play, let him play, but that accuracy, that

516
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 8: throwing with anticipation and time, man is always gonna be

517
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 8: a place for that. Again, it's just gonna be a

518
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 8: health for eligue Willis. I actually thought he would end

519
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 8: up with the Carolina with the Arizona Cardinals because of

520
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 8: the connection of the Laflors. I just felt like, Oh,

521
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 8: I'm gonna let my little brother know. You gotta get him,

522
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 8: do everything in your power to get him. The fact

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Speaker 8: that he didn't end up with the Arizona Cardinals kind

524
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 8: of concerns me. But happily was his defensive coordinator in

525
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 8: Gen Bay. He saw him every damn practice, understands his

526
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 8: work ethic and what he is and what he isn't

527
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 8: and so this will be an interesting pairing. I'm assuming

528
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 8: throw the ball twenty to twenty five times a game.

529
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 8: They gonna be run heavy. Defensive Coach, you got a

530
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 8: quarterback that hasn't had a lot of starts, hasn't had

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Speaker 8: a lot of pass attempts. You gotta be smart with him.

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Speaker 5: TJ.

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00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 4: Husman Jada joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar

534
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 4: Arrington Jonas Knox in for calling here on the Herd.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you about keeping it with the wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: I know, obviously you were at the combine. Who's the

537
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 4: best wide receiver coming out? And why is does he

538
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 4: stand above the rest in this draft class?

539
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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 8: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 8: You know? So you know I be LeVar knows this.

543
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 8: Like I'm biased when you when you ask me these questions,

544
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 8: but I'm gonna be slightly biased and unbiased at the

545
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 8: same time. I'm gonna give you a sleeper. And people

546
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 8: are talking about him because of what he did at

547
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 8: the combine, and he looked really good. He ran fashion

548
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 8: and many thought as Jakobe Lane. And I'm biased because

549
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 8: I've been training him, so I know he knows what

550
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 8: to do, what not to do. At least he will

551
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 8: know what to do, what not to do, when and

552
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 8: do it, how to do it, why to do it

553
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 8: type of thing. The Carnel tape is the best receiver

554
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 8: when you look at his production, you look at his

555
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 8: route running, you look at his body control. Yeah, he

556
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 8: ran into four five, but that's fast enough with as

557
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 8: long as you can separate. People always talk about how

558
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 8: fast you can go, but the key is how fast

559
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 8: can you stop. How many people talk about that because

560
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 8: they don't know the game I'm giving free game up

561
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 8: now people are gonna start talking about it's the art

562
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 8: of deceleration, not the art of acceleration. And the sooner

563
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 8: these people understand that, they'll understand why receiver is good

564
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 8: and why one isn't. But I like Carnell Tape. But

565
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 8: Jakobe Lane at six', five just over two hundred, pounds

566
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 8: with his route running ability is, Quickness he's gonna be

567
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 8: a pleasant surprise for.

568
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 5: MANY Uh Kansas.

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Speaker 6: City we had the conversation on On, saturday AND i

570
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 6: asked the, question do you feel as though the window

571
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 6: could be closing on This Kansas City chief? Team And

572
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 6: i'm just curious for this audience to be able to

573
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 6: hear your your opinion on on that that. Matter in,

574
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 6: particular they you know they they just brought In Kenneth

575
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 6: walker as a new running. BACK i think it improves

576
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 6: their their run. Game BUT i don't know how high

577
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 6: the expectations should be with the uncertainty around the health

578
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 6: Of Patrick mahomes or even where this This Kansas city

579
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 6: defense currently.

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00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 8: STANDS i say this with respect because of what The

581
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 8: chiefs have, accomplished what and Who Andy reid is as

582
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 8: a coach and a play, color door, shut window, Closed.

583
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 8: Wow because One mahomes is coming off a major. Injury

584
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 8: we don't know how he's going to react to. That

585
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 8: we don't even know When mahomes is coming. Back they're

586
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 8: losing really good players on the defensive side of the,

587
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 8: ball young defensive, players not only, young And trent mcduffy

588
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 8: And Jayan watson just signed with The. Rams they don't

589
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 8: have that receiver that we just spoke up. Earlier who's

590
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 8: going to change the, Game who's gonna demand respect when

591
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 8: your game planning to stop The? Chiefs and SO i

592
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 8: just look at it like it's really an uphill. Battle

593
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 8: but when you have Many reid And Patrick, mahomes the

594
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 8: statement THAT i said from the get, go doors, closed windows,

595
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 8: shut that can always change because of those two, GUYS

596
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 8: i just feel like it's gonna be extremely. Hard while

597
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 8: The chiefs are struggling with health and good players and

598
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 8: retaining good, players these other teams are getting, better they're.

599
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 8: Maturing that division is gonna be, tough and SO i

600
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 8: just feel like it's an uphill battle for the. Kandacity The.

601
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 8: Chiefs they had their. Run can they do it? Again?

602
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 8: Yeah you can never count Out Pat mahomes And Andy.

603
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 8: Reid but these other, teams you got to get them

604
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 8: credit for what they're doing and what they're gonna. DO

605
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 8: i believe It's curtains for The. CHIEFS. T.

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00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: J husmanzada joining us here On Fox Sports, Radio LeVar

607
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 4: Arrington jonas in For collin here on The. Herd let

608
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 4: me ask you from a receiver, standpoint if you're in

609
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 4: the shoes Of Justin, jefferson you've seen what's gone on In.

610
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 4: Minnesota THE jj McCarthy Or LeVar calls him, NINE i

611
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 4: call HIM j McCarthy from that experience and that experiment,

612
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 4: there and then you've seen what happened With Sam darnold

613
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 4: when he. Left Kirk cousins is out. There there's been

614
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 4: Some Kyler murray conversations that are going. On if you

615
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 4: were a receiver In, minnesota what would your preference be

616
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: at the quarterback?

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00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 8: Position Oh, Man competition for, sure somebody that's gonna PUSH

618
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 8: jj McCarthy to be, Better somebody that's gone force him

619
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 8: to have to be on his p's and q's every

620
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 8: practice physically and. Mentally if You're Justin, jefferson you just

621
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 8: you don't want to go through another season that you

622
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 8: just went, through especially when you look at what a

623
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 8: lot of other teams have done or doing and will

624
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 8: continue to, do and just receivers in, general like when

625
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 8: you come into the, league How jets came into the

626
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 8: league SETTING i mean going, crazy and then you have

627
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 8: this type of. Year it's hard to get used to

628
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 8: that and you see your peers just falling out of.

629
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 8: Control and so for, him If Kyler murray is the,

630
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 8: answer let's. Go if IT'S jj, McCarthy let's. GO i

631
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 8: just need guys to be. Better and that's, frustrating, man

632
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 8: when you have the type of starts in his career

633
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 8: that he had and now it's like, This and SO

634
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 8: i expect competition to be brought in FOR jj. McCarthy

635
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 8: kream always rises to the. Top if he's what they

636
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 8: thought he was when they drafted, him he's gonna rise

637
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 8: to the.

638
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 5: Top do you Think Kyler murray makes?

639
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 8: Sense Kyler murray makes sense because he can get out the,

640
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 8: pocket he's, accurate he has a good. On Kyler murray's

641
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 8: only negative is he's a small. Guy Kyler. MURRAY i

642
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 8: don't Know Kyler, murray BUT i know people have played

643
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 8: with him he's just a different, dude, Man and so

644
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 8: he's gonna have to change some of his ways personally

645
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 8: and be more of a, leader be more of a

646
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 8: guy that people gravitate. Towards. Uh, yeah he's just gonna

647
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 8: have to change a little bit of his, way especially

648
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 8: when you're the. Quarterback you, months it's a, month and

649
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 8: if he doesn't do, that he'll be out the league very.

650
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 6: Soon, Dang let's keep it on Courtesh, Uh let's keep.

651
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 5: It let's give it on.

652
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 6: Receivers let's go to your home where you're a great

653
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 6: in The Cincinnati, Bengals Jamar chase had a by all,

654
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 6: accounts statistically had a great, year but it just didn't

655
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 6: seem like it was a great year for this. Team

656
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 6: and it seemed like there was like some heartache and some,

657
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 6: hard gut wrenching times some of the things we heard

658
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 6: From Joe burrow and not being happy and where they're

659
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 6: at with. Things you you more than anyone everybody would

660
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 6: know what the pulse is In. Cincinnati what should be the?

661
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 6: Approach how should we be looking at This bengals team this?

662
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 5: Year?

663
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 8: Man we better be. Better we we we better get

664
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 8: some guys on defense that can stop somebody like have

665
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 8: some pride like. That just that boggles my mind that

666
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 8: we are all professionals and we don't have pride in

667
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 8: what we do day in day out on a consistent.

668
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 8: Basis like, you nobody should be that bad, Defensively, nobody.

669
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 8: Nobody if you have pride and you're a true, professional

670
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 8: you nobody should be that bad defensively where you can't

671
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 8: stop somebody from just going up and down the field

672
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 8: all game. Long jamar had a good, year but when you're,

673
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 8: losing nobody has a good. Year and so that's how it.

674
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 8: Works like you, Know i've Seen joe at The Super,

675
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 8: bowl talk to him, frustrated AND i just hope we

676
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 8: can put a team around him because there's only so

677
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 8: much that somebody can. Take, believe he gonna get a

678
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 8: bingles two more years and if things don't, change AND

679
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 8: i think we will start to see a Different Joe.

680
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 8: Burrow because guys want, greatness they want to achieve, greatness

681
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 8: they want to reach the, pinnacle and we may not

682
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 8: reach it every, year but just give me an opportunity to,

683
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 8: read a real. Opportunity and So i'm hoping that we

684
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 8: can draft some guys and get some guys in free

685
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 8: agency defensively that can help accomplish that.

686
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 5: GOAL. Tj Huschman.

687
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 4: Zada you hear Him saturdays With LeVar arrington And Plexigo

688
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 4: burus on up On game here On Fox Sports. Radio

689
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 4: Pro Bowler Wide, receiver savant and always appreciate a few

690
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 4: minutes of your time here on the, show man y'all the.

691
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 8: Best in the. Business man y'all keep it. Up man

692
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 8: y'a actually be doing.

693
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 5: More of, this please.

694
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 4: You the.

695
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 5: Man THANKS. Tj y'all take. Care, yeah he is the GREAT.

696
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 5: Tj Hushman zada here On Fox Sports.

697
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 4: Radio it is The Herd here ON, fsr Lvar, Arrington

698
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 4: jonas Knox in For. Colin coming up next, here we

699
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: are going to have the very latest on a big

700
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 4: day for one organization in THE. Nfl not only did they,

701
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 4: add but they reunited with somebody in the world of.

702
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 4: Sports so find out who it is right here ON.

703
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: Fsr be sure to catch live editions Of The herd

704
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,680
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00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,240
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00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 3: App it's A herd On Fox Sports.

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00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: Radio LaVar, Arrington Jonas Knox in For colin coming up

708
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 4: top of next hour a little over fifteen minutes from.

709
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 4: Now we've got more from the legal tampering period in THE.

710
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 4: Nfl we got, moves teams trying to compete for playoffs next,

711
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 4: year teams trying to make the impression that they actually

712
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 4: care about winning next, year all sorts of fun. Stuff, quarterbacks,

713
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 4: receivers defensive. Guys i've seen some kickers and punters go

714
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 4: off the. BOARD i Think Nick folk just got a

715
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 4: deal as well. Too so we will have more on

716
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 4: the latest from the tampering period in THE nfl coming

717
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 4: up top of next. Hour but right now it's time

718
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 4: for the return Of Tonguan.

719
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 8: Towey, no, no.

720
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 7: This is the Herd line, news all, Right, Greg what

721
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 7: a time to be alive right, now you. Guys we

722
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 7: GOT nfl free, agency we GOT, wbc we Got turney

723
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 7: week in college, hoops we GOT Nba like this is

724
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 7: This this is a great time of. Year let's start

725
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 7: it off In Kansas. City we told you last, Hour

726
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 7: Kenneth walker is going to the chief From seattle three year.

727
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 7: Deal this is a, massive massive move for The. Chiefs

728
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 7: but another move that happened today In Kansas City Travis

729
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 7: kelcey is expected to return next season.

730
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: For The.

731
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 5: Chiefs looks like it's going to be a one year.

732
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 6: Deal does that include walker and wheelchair and come automatic

733
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 6: lift up.

734
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 3: The stairs, You Kenneth.

735
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 8: OH i.

736
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 7: Don't THINK i could mentally prepare myself to See Taylor

737
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 7: swift anywhere else In Kansas.

738
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 5: CITY i just.

739
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 7: Couldn't but here was T J housminzana just a bit

740
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 7: ago on The chiefs outlook this.

741
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 8: SEASON i say this will respect because of what The

742
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 8: chiefs have, accomplished what and Who Andy reid is as

743
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 8: a coach and a play. Caller door, shut window. Closed

744
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 8: because One mahomes is coming off a major. Injury we

745
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 8: don't know how he's gonna react to. That we don't

746
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 8: even know When mahomes is coming. Back they're losing really

747
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 8: good players on the defensive side of the, ball young defensive,

748
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 8: players not only young And trip mcduffy And jay And

749
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 8: watson just signed with The. Rams they don't have that

750
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 8: receiver that we just spoke up. Earlier who's going to

751
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 8: change the. Game who's going to demand respect when your

752
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 8: game planning to stop the CHIEF.

753
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 4: I, mean, look, okay it probably is closed all, Right

754
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 4: if we're being, honest window probably is close for The

755
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 4: Kansas City chiefs because what The patriots, did we're never

756
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 4: going to see again to where the dynasty. Ended they

757
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 4: went ten years before winning Another Super bowl and then

758
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 4: they won three. More you just we're probably never ever

759
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 4: going to see that again because ten years from, now

760
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 4: What's Patrick mahomes going to be?

761
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 5: Forty What's Andy reid? Doing ten years from? Now what

762
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 5: did he in?

763
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 8: That?

764
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 5: DAMN i hope he's still. Coaching, YEAH.

765
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: I hope he.

766
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 4: IS i, Also i'm not surprised That kelsey's. BACK i

767
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 4: know that they wanted to make a big to do

768
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 4: of the fact that On Christmas night he was walking

769
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: off the field and he was saying goodbye to everybody

770
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 4: and all. That BUT i think that he probably he

771
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 4: came out of this year and he wasn't beat.

772
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 5: Up then he's still.

773
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: Produced he was their best receiver last, year AND i

774
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 4: think that he wanted to end his time In Kansas

775
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 4: city With Patrick mahomes and instead of was you, know

776
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 4: was It Chris Olda ducan was the was the quarterback

777
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 4: on the field. THERE i just it made sense to,

778
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 4: me and the more that you heard him talk about

779
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 4: the excitement The eric The enemy was. Back he was

780
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: excited to Have eric The enemy. Back the more that

781
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 4: he talked about, it, uh the more that it felt

782
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 4: like he was probably gonna.

783
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 5: Return that's.

784
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 4: Wonderful, yeah, WELL i was going to tell.

785
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 7: You i'll tell you real, quick we have another we

786
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 7: have do we do have another big? Signing i'll tell

787
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 7: you real. Quick under the radar this. Morning this happened really.

788
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 7: Early Were Shaun gary traded to The cowboys from The.

789
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: Packers what a slapping?

790
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 5: Us.

791
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 6: Damn if A dallas, Fan i'm offended If i'm A

792
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 6: If i'm A Green Bay packers, fan it's just kind

793
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 6: OF i don't know how you.

794
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: Feel but, man you.

795
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 6: All just give away your best pass rusher and then

796
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 6: bring in the former best pass rusher of the. Team

797
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 6: you sent your best pass rusher, Too so, okay, yeah

798
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 6: we gave you our best pass, rusher but just the

799
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 6: season remove we came and took what your best passed rusher,

800
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 6: was but before we gave you our best ass a

801
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 6: little while they got it, Right, fine that's something like

802
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 6: real like messed up love triangle type stuff going, on,

803
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 6: RIGHT i don't want any parts of that, Yeah so

804
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 6: what are you, Doing, joneses what are you?

805
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 7: Doing so this guy's this just came. Down we got

806
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 7: to give our old lineman some. Love we can't forget

807
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 7: about our old.

808
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 5: Lineman now you.

809
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 7: Can't ravens free agent Center Tyler, Linderbaum, okay no Tod No.

810
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 7: Raiders three, years eighty one million, deal eighty one dollars million,

811
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 7: deal sixty million, guaranteed makes some the highest paid interior

812
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 7: offensive lineman in THE.

813
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 5: Nfl according To Adam, shepard.

814
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 6: Biggest loss of the free agent period, already AND i

815
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 6: won't even suspect to think that it gets any closer

816
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 6: than where we are.

817
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 5: Now this is the biggest loss period The. Ravens you.

818
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 5: Lost you messed up on this. One it also LOOK

819
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 5: i was surprise they didn't tag. Him that is.

820
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: Horrible we talked about it On. Friday there was reports

821
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 4: that they had offered him twenty million a year and

822
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 4: he had turned it down and they didn't tag, him

823
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 4: and so this felt like this was probably where this was.

824
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 4: Headed and so now they're going to go back and

825
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 4: try and figure out the center. Position but if you're The,

826
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,479
Speaker 4: raiders you just you just added probably the best free

827
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: agent on the.

828
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 5: Market you, did you.

829
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 6: Did and but reference The raiders the exact same way

830
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 6: you referenced The. Jets do not do not say anything

831
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 6: about the.

832
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: Day you better handle The raiders this same exact.

833
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 4: Way the good news For Tyler linderbaum is the fact

834
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 4: that it's that it's only a three year, deal so

835
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 4: he's only going to be stuck there at most three.

836
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 4: Years he can get out and he's going to hit

837
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 4: the market again at twenty eight years, old because he's

838
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 4: only twenty, Five so he's gonna he's gonna be able

839
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 4: to hit the market.

840
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 5: There you.

841
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 4: Know but it is good, that you, know if they're

842
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 4: going to draft For Nanna, mendoza absolutely that that you,

843
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: know you've got a. Center oh that's. Right they want

844
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: to add a veteran because they want the veteran to

845
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 4: play this next year and not the guy they're drafting

846
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 4: number one. Over, yeah that's that's that's that's WHAT i understand.

847
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 6: That, yeah but that's a loss For. Baltimore, man that's

848
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 6: a tremendous. Lot that's the biggest ale of the off.

849
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 6: Season that's a, ale big old al big old, fat

850
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 6: juicy baney lad bad L, Yeah i'm glad you're. Happy

851
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 6: raiders fans enjoy that you still got a long way to.

852
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 4: Go but he give me The Lennard ball is gonna

853
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 4: be sitting watching The Blue Man group with a, drink

854
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 4: going why DID i pick? Here there's so many other

855
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 4: PLACES i could have, gone And i'm stuck here looking at.

856
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: This look at all the. Lights