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Speaker 2: Ah yeah, here we are another beautiful Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: full slate of action coming up for you. Theme of

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Speaker 2: the day, heroes and villains, good versus bad? Surely all

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Speaker 2: a matter of perspective. And what you see in the mirror,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? Welcome in? It's another edition of Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: the way tire buying should be. I'm Mike Carmen. Alongside me,

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Speaker 2: my guy ten years in the NBA UCLA. It's Ryan

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Speaker 2: Hollins working with the Houston Rockets. You see his work

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Speaker 2: at the Ryan Hollins. Follow him wherever he's traversing, and

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Speaker 2: he's a big man. You'll see him in a crowd.

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Brother?

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Speaker 3: What's up? Brother? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: It's another week of greatness. I made a long layoff

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Speaker 2: between NBA Finals game, you know, the conference finals and

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Speaker 2: into the finals. But I think everybody's done enough. Belly

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Speaker 2: aching and lamenting that and TV contracts and all those

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Speaker 2: layoff kind of things. So I'll ask it this way,

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Speaker 2: as a guy who played for ten years in the

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Speaker 2: league made how often did you did you get more

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Speaker 2: than two days off? And if so, how did you

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Speaker 2: luxuriate you didn't?

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Speaker 3: I mean it was rare.

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Speaker 1: I think I remember maybe doing something every day for

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Speaker 1: a month straight, because you come off the plane, you

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Speaker 1: go right into work, and you know, if there's a game,

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Speaker 1: you want to come in and get rehab or shots that percepted.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, no, you're you're really not ever going to

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Speaker 1: get a day off. So you may say, oh, you

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Speaker 1: only went in it, you know, you know at nine

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Speaker 1: o'clock and then you got off about one to do

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Speaker 1: whatever you want. But I'm doing that every day. Like

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Speaker 1: your Saturdays, I'm waking up and going to work out.

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Speaker 1: Your Sundays get waking up and going to work out.

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Speaker 1: You know, And a lot of people don't understand. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you plan the NBA, I am your entertainment. So

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Speaker 1: you know there is no like, oh, you got your weekends. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't have weekends. My weekends are working or flying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the old days off you really get is now

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Speaker 2: the negotiated extended break for the All Star Game anymore, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean those you've hadded a couple of days, so

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Speaker 2: maybe you will actually have a day or two to

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Speaker 2: sit around pool side, But more unlikely people are taking

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Speaker 2: care of family business and seeing the people that they

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Speaker 2: haven't for a couple of months in an extended period.

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Speaker 2: But it is a curiosity, you know, not from me. Look,

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Speaker 2: we get into TV contracts and expectations and ad rates

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Speaker 2: and sales and how you do things in terms of

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Speaker 2: your prime time programming. You know, summer shows are a thing.

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Speaker 2: Once upon a time it was just rerun, so maybe

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Speaker 2: it didn't matter nearly to the same degree. But now

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Speaker 2: with all the different reality shows and everything that premiere

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Speaker 2: nearer these times, you know you're trying to get the

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Speaker 2: most bang for your buck. So it becomes a all right,

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Speaker 2: we want to lock this in, especially when we're playing

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Speaker 2: the high advertising rates game that we do for these

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Speaker 2: live sporting events. But when we look at it, I

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Speaker 2: mean you look at the injury history. Lively came back

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Speaker 2: for the Mavericks. Okay, check that box. Kleeber was back,

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Speaker 2: check that box. On the other side. Now we just

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Speaker 2: do a daily watch and prayer visual for Christaps Porzingis.

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Speaker 3: It seems yeah, uh, Porzingis.

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Speaker 1: I think that, you know, the only shot that the

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Speaker 1: the chess match that the Celtics played behind the scenes, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're waiting on prezingas man, there is no persink. It's

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Speaker 1: very well could be with the severity of that injury,

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Speaker 1: and Mike we talked about this. I'm most concerned with

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Speaker 1: Presingius injury because it looked like it was non contact.

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Speaker 1: Looked like he just he just went down, and you

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Speaker 2: Last game he played was in the Miami series, played

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Speaker 2: on the twenty ninth of April. Has been out since.

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Speaker 2: Updates have been sporadic, and we've gotten used to that, right,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it would be a hip of violation

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Speaker 2: But you know, hey, for the purposes of the argument,

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Speaker 2: I like that you can use that as your stump

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Speaker 2: speech to get around talking about where a guy is

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Speaker 2: in his recovery. I know, with their media availability and

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Speaker 2: there has been some subruder film of poor zingis out

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Speaker 2: But you know, to your point, we're still talking about

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Speaker 2: clear for contact, getting through contact, how does he feel

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Speaker 2: the next day? And really, if you're the Celtics trying

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Speaker 2: still looking at him pretty rough. Minutes restriction would be

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Speaker 2: my guess, right, I mean, you're not suddenly bringing him

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you practice him And here's the big key,

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Speaker 1: and this is what's tough about Dallas. Let's say Prazingis

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Speaker 1: Just asked Rudy Gobert.

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Speaker 2: Trying to put you on skates and if it's not

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing about Chris STAPs. You got a

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Speaker 1: Luka Dancetz are shooting the basketball, that ain't gonna work.

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Speaker 1: Right now, that is not working. So we'll see how

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Speaker 1: that plays out. But it listen, it's not a good

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get deep into the finals. As Ryan alluded to,

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Speaker 2: their big big factor, just his availability and how you

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Speaker 2: reintegrate him to your offensive sets, but more importantly, trying

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Speaker 2: we've watched the Celtics in some of these games, right,

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Speaker 2: if they don't shoot particularly well, they're getting buried on

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Speaker 2: a degree and settling for three point show, right, which

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Speaker 2: as we talk about it and the NBA as a whole,

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Speaker 2: And certainly the Celtics live and die and certainly they've

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Speaker 2: lived and feasted far more frequently than they've they've died

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Speaker 2: from it in this NBA season with the record that

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Speaker 2: they've been able to put up. But the porzingis spot

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Speaker 2: certainly looms. We've got a lot on the on the

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Speaker 2: that was the w NBA game yesterday and everybody's got

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Speaker 2: an opinion. I don't think it was the first time

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Speaker 2: I've seen the X slash Twitter whale tail in a

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Speaker 2: while coming off of that game, with everybody having an

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Speaker 2: opinion on selected plays, Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark. That's part

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Speaker 2: of why the the villain tees becomes it. It's all

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Speaker 2: a matter of perspective and what your rooting interests are,

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Speaker 2: and as a basketball fan or in a lot of cases,

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Speaker 2: basketball players chiming in football players even chiming in, wondering

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Speaker 2: you know one very fundamental question that I texted you

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Speaker 2: very early in the Sky versus Fever game, and and

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Speaker 2: all of the incidences right, we can run them back

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Speaker 2: to back to back of all of the run ins

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Speaker 2: that Caitlyn Clark has had. Where the blank are her teammates?

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Speaker 2: Is now you put that on a T shirt? Because

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Speaker 2: that seems to be the recurring theme coming out of it.

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Speaker 2: We can we'll talk about Angel Reaves, we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: you know, how the game is officiated, played, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: But for all that you know, watch this and certainly

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Speaker 2: certainly you've seen it on your social media, if you

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Speaker 2: didn't see it a million times on Sports Center wherever

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Speaker 2: you're you're getting your sports information. Caitlin Clark off, the

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Speaker 2: ball gets well and Ed Reid hit from behind as

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Speaker 2: the ball is going to be inbounded, not a flagrant

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Speaker 2: before the inbound play, she shoots a free throw. Well, lo,

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Speaker 2: and behold the difference in the game one point a

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Speaker 2: free throw that Caitlin Clark makes a lot of decision

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Speaker 2: making in chaos once again in the final minutes of games.

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Speaker 2: So I have two questions on this One. We're the

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Speaker 2: many damn layups?

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Speaker 1: Well, we can, we can, We'll take the man.

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Speaker 3: Look at you.

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Speaker 2: She could have had twenty two assists.

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Speaker 1: Here's my deal too, Like, here's one narrative, like like

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Speaker 1: we got to see like Kaitlyn Clark. At this point,

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Speaker 1: they're showing the end result. Okay, and Mike, you know

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Speaker 1: this when your kids argue, you walk in, you just

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Speaker 1: see an elbow thrower.

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Speaker 2: You're seeing the retaliation.

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Speaker 1: Seeing the retel Go watch there's a full video out there.

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Speaker 1: Forgive me on another girl's name, but that that that

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Speaker 3: Off a rebound.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's a cheap shot to Caitlyn Clark. No, Caitlyn

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Speaker 1: Clark runs up to this girl, gets her face and

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Speaker 1: The girl keeps playing through and then at a certain

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Speaker 1: point she had enough. Okay, she had enough, and then

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Speaker 1: she goes and gets throwing a rebound and shout out

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Speaker 1: to the WNBA players because that's smart.

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Speaker 3: That's the time. Okay, Mike, if you want to come,

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Speaker 3: take me out.

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Speaker 1: Mike and me and you were on the court, you're like,

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Speaker 1: all right, Hollin's just talking to the trash to me. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you crash in there for a rebound. Okay, that's how

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Speaker 2: But that's the thing, right, you get it into a play.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't tell you the number of times

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Speaker 2: have watched, and again, obviously different levels, but we watch

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Speaker 2: a lot of kids soccer, watch a lot of kids basketball, right,

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Speaker 2: friends with kids playing, the last thing you can do

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Speaker 2: is go retaliate six seconds after the grievance is filed,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like if Carter had done

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Speaker 2: it in the heat of battle under the boards, because

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Speaker 2: Angel Reese got her, and this owes to a whole

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Speaker 2: other part of.

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Speaker 3: No Angel reads the get she flopped.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, But that's my point, right, No, there's

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Speaker 2: contact and then there's contact. And I'm wondering if Caitlin

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Speaker 2: Clark's flair for the embellishment isn't part of the reason

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Speaker 2: that officials are kind of shrugging at this point in

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Speaker 1: So if you're going to be established as an enforcer

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Speaker 3: You do not do not depending now he.

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Speaker 2: G and those guys never hooked you up, show ups

429
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Speaker 2: and all.

430
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Speaker 1: No, they I mean they took care of me. There's

431
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Speaker 1: nothing substantial, you know. And I didn't have to thank goodness,

432
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't have to actually fight, you know,

433
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: I didn't have to.

434
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Speaker 2: Well, we didn't. We didn't get a lot of real fights.

435
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Speaker 2: I mean they're usually some skirmishes, no.

436
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, no skirmish for me. You know, skirmmers for me.

437
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 2: You know, plugging and a little bit of shoving, but

438
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: the usually get too bad.

439
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 1: I made sure I was throwing my you know level

440
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: of elbows to you know, make sure that everything was good.

441
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: The focus wasn't on you know, Kevin or Paul or

442
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 1: Ray or any of those guys on the team. You know,

443
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: the focus is on me, you know, at least when

444
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: I was in so those guys were free to you know,

445
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: do what they wanted to do.

446
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just felt good that, you know. The question

447
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: I was asking in real time became the talking point

448
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: of a lot of current and former NBA players. Just

449
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: be like Okay, just somebody step in right and say something.

450
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: When you see like a star getting decked, and make

451
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: no mistake, maybe maybe she she's not that good, Maybe

452
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 1: she won't be that good. Maybe that's it's you know,

453
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's Caitlin Clark. Thing was just a you know,

454
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Speaker 1: a face, who knows. But she's the reason right now

455
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 1: that all eyes are on the league. Okay, she's the reason.

456
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,959
Speaker 1: You know, with all due respect, the ladies have been

457
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Speaker 1: putting in work, but for whatever reason, she's the reason

458
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Speaker 1: that the eyes are on the league. So the frustration

459
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: comes of, like you guys are not putting her in

460
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Speaker 1: a situation where she can be her best. Okay, And look,

461
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Speaker 1: maybe I'm assuming, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. Well,

462
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,479
Speaker 1: when I see physically she ain't there. She ain't there

463
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Speaker 1: yet physically, So you know what, what what do you have?

464
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Speaker 1: We got to support you, We got to put you

465
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Speaker 1: in a situation where you can be successful, and it

466
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Speaker 1: doesn't look like that's happening.

467
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Speaker 2: Well, and that's part of part of the larger conversation,

468
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Speaker 2: right is just how quickly you go from the NCAA

469
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Speaker 2: tournament to training camp and playing.

470
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Speaker 3: She should be ready though, Well, that's what.

471
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Speaker 2: I'm saying in terms of the physicality coming out of

472
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Speaker 2: what the WNBA is like, you didn't get a full

473
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Speaker 2: off season and cycle with your strength goes. And I'm

474
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Speaker 2: not saying you don't do that in Iowa, but we

475
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Speaker 2: know there's.

476
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Speaker 1: A there's there's an inexcusable partner. Here's a tough part

477
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: to that. These aren't like you know, when the NBA

478
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: players go, they're they're literally one year removed from like

479
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: au basketball, Like Katelyn Clark got four years of college,

480
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Speaker 1: and she should be physically she's old enough, she should

481
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Speaker 1: be physically ready. Okay, So there is you know, there

482
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Speaker 1: is a big difference when you know, comparing the two.

483
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Speaker 3: This is not a young kid.

484
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Speaker 2: No sure, and there will be you guys and all

485
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Speaker 2: the they've all been so successful as well.

486
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and make no mistake, there will be you know,

487
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Speaker 1: she will get better. There there is an adjustment period obviously,

488
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Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, she's not a little girl. Okay,

489
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Speaker 1: So the expectations, you know, and and a lot of

490
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Speaker 1: the you know WNBA start they can come in ready

491
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: from college, they come in killing already, they're older. You know,

492
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Speaker 1: they don't you know, they get a chance to mature

493
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: in college and get better and develop again.

494
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Speaker 2: The larger point I was trying to make is also

495
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Speaker 2: it's a full cycle of getting into an acclimated with

496
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Speaker 2: a team that isn't very good either, right, because look,

497
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 2: I've watched every minute of a number of these games,

498
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: and certainly yesterday's was on the full way through. Even

499
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 2: if she's not putting up thirty points, there's buckets being

500
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Speaker 2: left on the door step because women are not converting

501
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: layups bunnies in the lane. It's like, Wow, that's an

502
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: inordinate number of those, and that seems to be and look,

503
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Speaker 2: the turnovers inexcusable to reach in follows a big problem

504
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Speaker 2: that she's having. I wanted to get to the quote

505
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Speaker 2: though in the post game and get your opinion on this, Kennedy,

506
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Speaker 2: Carter and the Sky, and I set this over to

507
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Speaker 2: you in a text message because I don't know that

508
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 2: I've ever seen a team so proud of a response

509
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 2: like this kind of on the play before bumping in

510
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: with Caitlin, it seemed like she turned to you a

511
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Speaker 2: little bit after.

512
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Speaker 8: The few Kaylyn Clark questions.

513
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Speaker 2: Did she say anything to you?

514
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. What she said?

515
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 9: What'd you say to her?

516
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: And then Teresa Weatherspoon comes over the top, it's enough,

517
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: we're not talking about that and just shut it down.

518
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 2: Opportunity to explain, you know, heat of the moment, has

519
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 2: it on or is it better for the league if

520
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 2: it just becomes this festering issue.

521
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 3: I listen. I like the response.

522
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: I think what she knows is like if if I

523
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: come out knowing who I am and I tell you

524
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: that Caitlyn Clark said X, Y and Z to me,

525
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: no one wants to hear that. If I say that,

526
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: she says that Kaylen, because there's no I saw one clip.

527
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: I saw one clip of what Caitlyn Clark.

528
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: Actually did to this girl.

529
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: But everybody, every media outlet, and this is some nonsense.

530
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: It's showing the clip of Cayton Clark when she does

531
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Speaker 1: get the reactions, she does kind of, you know, fall

532
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: over on a rebound, you know, poor Caitlyn. So they're like,

533
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: we're not gonna talk about it because you guys are

534
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: already creating your own narratives.

535
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: What do I need to talk about? They're like, what

536
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: do we need to talk about?

537
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: You guys have already made your mindset up that, you know,

538
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: poor old Kaitlyn Clark.

539
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 3: So she's like, there's no that is I love.

540
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: I literally love that response because again the question is,

541
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: well what happened, And it's like, you know what, I

542
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: think she's smart enough that she says, well, I hear

543
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: her because she did this, this, and this.

544
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 3: She may not feel like anybody's gonna want to hear that.

545
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 2: Wow, I still say, as we talked about a little

546
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: earlier in the hour, it's like, you can do it

547
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: in a basketball play. Caitlyn Clark handles the ball enough.

548
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: You just gotta be you know better in your timing.

549
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: She did get her in a basketball player.

550
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: It was not a basketball play.

551
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: Come on, listen, I played the game my brother.

552
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: The time to go and hit somebody is on a rebound,

553
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: because everybody.

554
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm talking about that the inbound play is the play

555
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: that's yeah, well everybody that's.

556
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: Caitlyn had seemed to have gotten away with a lot already,

557
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: and she just was like enough, just like enough, enough

558
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: is enough.

559
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: You gotta be smart on the retaliation. Ryan Hollins, you

560
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: know that growing up. You know that with your kids.

561
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: I certainly learned from the back end of a wooden

562
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: spoon in many kitchen implements that I needed to be

563
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: smarter about my retalite tory decision making.

564
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Speaker 1: And it's the end of the day, you know, don't

565
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: do it, you know, And unfortunately WBA players don't get

566
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: what our kids have, which is, you know, go tell

567
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: a parent when I happened, so I don't see the reaction.

568
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: This is so you know, this is a part of

569
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 1: professional sports. This is not gonna go away. It's not

570
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: just the men's side, the women's side also the part

571
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: of professional sports. You got to learn how to hold

572
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: your own. It looks like Clayton Clark is either going

573
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: to learn how to hold her own or maybe she's

574
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 1: good at you know this, this victim role. You know,

575
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: we'll find out and the truth will be told. You know,

576
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: it's different in college BASKETBA. You know, all lives come

577
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: championship time, come playoff time.

578
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: You went full victim.

579
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know I might. I gotta send you

580
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: the clip because I don't think you.

581
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Speaker 2: Much at all.

582
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: You did see that, you did see the instigators.

583
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not saying she's not, but those are

584
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: like in the heat of the actual basketball and look

585
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: and even on the hit she takes. You know at

586
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: the end of the third quarter, how much of that

587
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: is the contact versus an embellishment? I guess the question

588
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: I keep asking and why it's it's tough to adjudicate

589
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: anything Caitlin Clark related when she's falling to the ground,

590
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: because I don't I don't know how much of that

591
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: is just I'm trying to sell a call.

592
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: Yes, And that's the when I say victim when you'd agree, right,

593
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying.

594
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 3: The victim wrot.

595
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: Takes on way too many connotations, especially given the narratives

596
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: that have surrounded the w n b A as we

597
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: talked about where people start taking their sides. So you know,

598
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: victims is a loaded word at this point.

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00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: Well, hey, you I stand by it. I don't mean

600
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: it in any other regard. I understand what you're saying.

601
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: I don't mean it in any other regard. But it's

602
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: like no play basketball.

603
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: No get up.

604
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: And she even said it after the game. And it

605
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: may be too little, too late because you've now got

606
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: ten games of narrative.

607
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: So and you know what, you know what the women

608
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: are getting used to also, and this is what the

609
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: NBA players have kind of been dealing with them. So

610
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: there's the NBA player smirking somewhere like, okay, you get

611
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: the accolades, right, But every time you sneeze, it's all film.

612
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: Lebron James walks out the back room and he trips,

613
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: and it's on film. Lebron James are talking with Genie

614
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: Boss about whatever and laughing and joining himself. It is

615
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: the front page everything and the talking point all these shows.

616
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: So you know, they're they're the women are finding out that,

617
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 1: you know, these are plays that kind of just happened

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00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: in the game. They're like, what is this doing being

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Speaker 1: you know, main media coverage? Now, this wasn't main media

620
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Speaker 1: stuff before. What's going on here? So they're getting adjusted

621
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Speaker 1: to that also heavy as they him.

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Speaker 2: it's Isaac Lowinkraw. What's what's trending this morning? Hi?

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Speaker 7: I love, good morning. And it has to be said.

633
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Speaker 7: I have to make this clear based on what you

634
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Speaker 7: guys were just saying. If I was there, Ryan, I

635
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Speaker 7: would have taken down Charlie Villanueva.

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Speaker 2: Wow, icly done.

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Speaker 7: Oh he's lucky that I wasn't there because I would

638
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Speaker 7: have grabbed a hold of that ankle and not let go.

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Speaker 9: I would have had your back. And I'll leave it

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Speaker 9: at that.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know how he comes at you a heart

642
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Speaker 2: over your hamburger takes you know why?

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Speaker 7: You know why I would have taken him down because

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Speaker 7: he wouldn't have been able to stop laughing and he

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Speaker 7: would have been vulnerable.

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Speaker 9: That's all we done, all right?

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Speaker 7: What the business in hand, including baseball history, that's coming up.

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Speaker 7: But we start with Game six of the NHL's Eastern

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Speaker 7: Conference Finals on Saturday night, saw the Florida Panthers defeat

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Speaker 7: the New York Rangers two to one to win the

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Speaker 7: series four games to two in advance to the Stanley

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Speaker 7: Cup Final for a second straight year in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 7: On Saturday night, the Yankees what at San Francisco seven

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Speaker 7: to three. Aaron Judge did it again, his major league

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Speaker 7: leading twenty first home run. This one waded at four

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Speaker 7: hundred sixty four feet. It was his third home run

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Speaker 7: in two games against the Giants. Dodgers over the Colorado

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Speaker 7: Rockies four to one. Cubs at Wrigley defeated Cincinnati seven

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Speaker 7: to five on Dansby Swanson's go ahead, two run home

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Speaker 7: run in the bottom of the eighth inning. Billy's over

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Speaker 7: the Cardinals six to one to improve their major league

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Speaker 7: best record to forty one and eighteen. Bryce Harper hit

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Speaker 7: his fourteenth home run now Finally, Also on Saturday night,

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Speaker 7: the first ever glow in the dark game in baseball

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Speaker 7: tree was played when a collegiate summer league team in

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Speaker 7: Colonial Heights, Virginia, called the Tri City Chili Peppers hosted

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Speaker 7: the Greenbrier Knights. Both teams wore glow in the Dark

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Speaker 7: fluorescent uniforms and played in the dark under black lights.

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Speaker 7: The baseball itself was glow in the dark. Here was

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Speaker 7: the key play in Tri City's nine to four victory,

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Speaker 7: called by Charlie ben Ami.

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Speaker 10: That set up the middle head over the head of

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Speaker 10: the center fielder McGovern with hy Nick speed and we

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Speaker 10: have ourselves a run another runner Ruddicks throw the stop

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Speaker 10: signet foot the.

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Speaker 1: Port oh row, my goodness.

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Speaker 10: Cosmic face fall Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 9: The Chili Peppers red Hot back to you.

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Speaker 2: Guys, nicely done at Isaac Low and Crown. Where you

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Speaker 2: find him on Twitter? Find Ryan over at the Ryan

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Speaker 2: Hollins find me over at Swollen Dome. Coming up next

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl could be in London. Do you care? We'll

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Speaker 2: talk about it next on Fox.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. My Carmen,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins with you. Ten years in the league. For

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins, I've watched more than ten years of basketball.

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Speaker 2: Here's my qualification. Shortly after the show, the podcast goes up.

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Speaker 2: your podcasts. You'll see this show Fox Sports Sunday. Hollins

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Speaker 2: and Harmon posted right after we get off the air,

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Speaker 2: thanks to Ian and Chris making a sound so pretty.

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Speaker 2: Our guy Isaac Lowencron, he's still watching highlights of Disco

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Speaker 2: and black Light Baseball, Ryan. I tried to watch two

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Speaker 2: minutes of the highlight. I couldn't tell what the hell

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00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: was going on, which is what you got in the

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Speaker 2: audio that he played. And there's another runner. I don't

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00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: know who he is, but I see him because I

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Speaker 2: see the logo as he runs. All Right, Mayor of

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Speaker 2: London City con talking about this week. Hey, I'd love

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Speaker 2: to put a future super Bowl in his city and

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00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: all obviously the United States game and this got a

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Speaker 2: bunch of outrage as the week we're on. It's an

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Speaker 2: American game, it needs to be played here and blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah, And I go, what's it gonna do. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna change the timing of your five k's, when you

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Speaker 2: have to start your grill or smoker and how early

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00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 2: in the day you need to make that last minute

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Speaker 2: run to the grocery store to get your seven layer

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Speaker 2: dip and chips. Other than that, you're not going to

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Speaker 2: the game. Most likely you're gonna turn on a TV

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Speaker 2: and do some gathering. Now you'd probably just come straight

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Speaker 2: from Sunday Services if you go out to Sunday Services,

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Speaker 2: so you might be dressed a little better for your

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Speaker 2: super Bowl party. But the last game that would have

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Speaker 2: been kicked out, and they're trying to theorize, you know,

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Speaker 2: when you would have to kick the game off, So

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Speaker 2: four o'clock Eastern the last super Bowl to kick off

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Speaker 2: in that hour, So one o'clock Pacific, forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: over Bangles, which was the highest rated super Bowl in

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Speaker 2: NFL history. So you can owe to that. And really

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Speaker 2: it comes down to one thing for me, Ryan, does

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Speaker 2: London want a pony up enough money to make it happen?

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Speaker 1: That has to be a lot of money. That had

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Speaker 1: to be a whole lot of money for the travel

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Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, it'd be a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: But it's you know, the corporate event. So you know,

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Speaker 2: if we're really gonna sell it, go ahead, go all

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Speaker 2: in on it is my thought. I mean, most folks

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Speaker 2: you know, talk about as soon as tickets go, you know,

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Speaker 2: the resale market and teams are set. All they do

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Speaker 2: is lament how expensive it is and how they'll never go,

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Speaker 2: which means, you know, they haven't done the saving for

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Speaker 2: the rainy day kind of thing. You know, the team

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Speaker 2: actually breaks through the malaise and makes a run towards

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Speaker 2: the super Bowl. So you're not going, so you just

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Speaker 2: buy a bigger TV and enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, not bad, and you know what, you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I was I think my first like three years in

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Speaker 1: the NBA, I was in the same city where the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl was happening, and I think it was the

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Speaker 1: Bears and the Colts and it was the first Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I think I was gonna have a chance, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'll go to the game, you know, let me figure

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Speaker 1: it out. And it ends up just pouring rain. And

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Speaker 1: you're right, maybe just going to the game is just

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Speaker 1: completely overrated. I can see that. But you watch it,

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Speaker 1: you go to the parties, it's an event.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm not saying not to go. If you can

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Speaker 2: make it happen. I've been lucky enough, I'm saying not

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Speaker 2: to go. Yeah, I've been lucky enough to go to

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Speaker 2: two and and I'd go every year if I can

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Speaker 2: make the money, travel and everything else work. There's no

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Speaker 2: question about it. Like the energy in a city around

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Speaker 2: the event and everything for me, has been huge, just

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Speaker 2: saying they most folks, as much as it's a bucket

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Speaker 2: list kind of thing, they end up watching and most

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Speaker 2: of the time their team's not in it anyway. So

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Speaker 2: in the in the end, just say, hey, the television expense,

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Speaker 2: you know, experience for the NFL has gotten so good

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Speaker 2: because you're not seeing all those replays in the stadium,

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Speaker 2: Like that's the one thing you do lose What the

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Speaker 2: hell happened on that play? No idea? The commercials, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't care about those.

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Speaker 1: Oh dude, what we got people that watch the game

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Speaker 1: literally just for the commercials, And that's saying and that's

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Speaker 1: their project and you don't care.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, I'm up and I'm going to refresh my drink,

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Speaker 2: hitting the bathroom maybe, uh, you know, watching what else

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Speaker 2: is on?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, the commercials do nothing for me because I've

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Speaker 2: usually seen them before the game as well, Like most

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Speaker 2: of them are very good anymore.

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Speaker 3: They got to do something.

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Speaker 2: I meant nothing, They got nothing. Hey, coming up next,

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Speaker 2: X Factors in your NBA Finals, Ryan Hollins's gonna tell

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Speaker 2: you what it's all about. As we continue on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, you're listening.

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Speaker 5: To Fox Sports. Grandy's welcome in.

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Speaker 2: It's our two Fox Sports Sunday here Mike Harmon alongside

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins. Thanks for being with us on the highways

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Speaker 2: and by ways of life, to front services up and

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Speaker 2: at them, work out, walking the dog, whatever you're doing

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Speaker 2: this morning, however you're joining us. Thanks for being part

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Speaker 2: of the extended family as you are out and about

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Speaker 2: later on today, take us with you, keep it locked

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Speaker 2: on us all day long. Fox Sports Radio dot Com,

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Speaker 2: all you listening out there on the local stations and

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Speaker 2: as always, and it actually made a promo now, Ryan Hollins,

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Speaker 2: I also may appear as that voice in your head.

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Speaker 3: Really yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's a nice soothing voice most of the time.

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Speaker 2: Unthoughs I'm screaming at Smith about something Jets, Mets or Nicks.

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Speaker 3: Related sounds about right to me.

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Speaker 2: Eh. There's been a lot of it, and we'll have

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Speaker 2: a Nick's story in a little while because it's the

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Speaker 2: season that won't die. But I want to shed some

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Speaker 2: light and shine a light on the comments of their

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Speaker 2: superstar from the year because I think he said everything

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Speaker 2: I tried to and you know that Jay and the

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Speaker 2: excuse making Knicks fans couldn't get away from. But we'll

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Speaker 2: do that in a little bit. The NBA Finals are set.

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Speaker 2: We've got the Mavericks, we've got the Celtics, We've got

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Speaker 2: superstars galore right up there. We'll get into Kyrie Irving

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Speaker 2: in about twenty minutes from now, because he's a guy

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Speaker 2: betting for Finals MVP Ryan Owins, would you believe he's

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Speaker 2: of days. But as you know, everybody goes back and

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Speaker 2: watch the tape, we do a lot of what ifs

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Speaker 2: along the way, and one of the narratives carrying things

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Speaker 2: is the easy path for the Celtics thus far, and

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Speaker 2: let's call what it is you've got injured players along

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Speaker 2: the way that's happened, and we've talked about it for weeks,

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Speaker 2: the war of attrition and the best ability being your

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Speaker 2: availability this time of year and trying to manage injuries

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Speaker 2: and hurt versus injured, and all of those things that

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Speaker 2: we've discussed for trying to navigate the regular season and

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Speaker 2: through because at a minimum, you're playing one hundred games, right,

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Speaker 2: you're ninety eight games if you're perfect in the postseason,

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Speaker 2: not to mention your preseason, and you know in season tournament,

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Speaker 2: if you made that championship, you got that and the

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Speaker 2: bonus game didn't count towards your stats to though, which

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Speaker 2: is I think kind of bogus. So maybe eventually we

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Speaker 2: get an adjustment and folks can get those tacked on,

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Speaker 2: because maybe there's points milestones end up being short on

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00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: that can help you in your argument for well, if

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Speaker 2: nothing else bar trivia, but to that point, Ryan, you know,

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Speaker 2: we got the Celtics that make the run, and I

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00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: see it being dismissed, like they were still the best

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Speaker 2: team in the East by double digit games. So the

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Speaker 2: fact that they still ran rough shot in the East,

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Speaker 2: I get it. Stars weren't there, but they were a

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Speaker 2: hell of a team coming in. So dismissing them just

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00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: seems so Sports talk radio and sports media of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Well, they didn't have the toughest road. We know that.

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Speaker 1: And you just saw you just saw the Dallas Mavericks

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00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: dismantled the best defense in the NBA. And it's the

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Speaker 1: first time probably since Lebron on the Heat, that you

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Speaker 1: can say that you had two superstars put together, two

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Speaker 1: prolific players on the same team and it and it worked.

859
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: You thought we thought the nets would work. We thought,

860
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: you know, James Harden, Chris Paul or James Harden and

861
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard.

862
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 2: And you're gonna keeps hard with a lot of guys.

863
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: Oh but just the first in my mind shouting, I

864
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: got shot out my Rockets, you know, but their teams

865
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: and players that get assemble. Hey, Kyrie on the Celtics, Okay,

866
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: and everybody got so excited that it's gonna be amazing,

867
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, they don't defend, he don't pass

868
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: the ball. This doing this is working because they defend. Uh,

869
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: they're tough minded. Like, there's so many good things that

870
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: we saw out of Dallas that were like, man, it's

871
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: their time. And you can tell with certain teams when

872
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: it's their time. You're looking at Dallas and you're like, nah,

873
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: it's their time. You don't feel the same way when

874
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: you watch Boston. Now, credit to old Boston. You know,

875
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: technically you can say, hey, maybe we're not giving Indiana

876
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: the credit that they deserve. But it wasn't Giannis, not

877
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: to the Kupo, it wasn't uh. You know, it wasn't

878
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: the NBA's best. It wasn't you know, with an Indiana

879
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: team that struggled to uh to execute down the stretch.

880
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: This wasn't Damian Lillard with the ball in his hands.

881
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 3: You know.

882
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: So there's a lot that went on that is making

883
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: you hesitant when it comes to seeing what the Celtics

884
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: are doing. But everything literally, everything that we're seeing from

885
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: the Uh, you know, from the Mavericks, you feel really good.

886
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: And it's from the defense to the fact that they

887
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: can they can execute offensively. You know, this is some

888
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: good basketball that we've seen. And even you know that

889
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: was a tough Oklahoma City team that they beat. I

890
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: meant by the air there, Jenny Jinjin and Luca douneons

891
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: impressed us most and in my opinion, by trusting Derek

892
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: Jones Junior and PJ Washington on the wings who hit

893
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: timely shots and you know, PJ, you got it. The

894
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: third option will beat you. That's what's tough about Dallas.

895
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 2: No, and that's ever since the trade and the change

896
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: really of the identity of that squad, right because it

897
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: was the Kyrie and Lucas show and maybe an occasional

898
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: guest star, and then you get fortified in the front line.

899
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: Lively had a fantastic season right by all measures, and

900
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: certainly you know Luca obviously jokingly but talking about you know,

901
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: his perfect shooting thus far in the postseason or in

902
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: the finals, they should say was the idea of here

903
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: you take the finals MVP. And I would be remiss

904
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 2: if I didn't bring back the Michael Finley story, Michael

905
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: Finley taking Lucas beer. Come on, now, my man's having

906
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: a beer with his old man.

907
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: No, I no, he ain't. Not right nowop noop, not

908
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 3: right now, not right now.

909
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: I got a week off, man. You don't think I'm

910
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: going to leave the corridor and go drink a couple

911
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: of gold.

912
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: Luca daches is the chance to play in the biggest

913
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: game in his life that he's ever played, and the

914
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: to run the knock on lucas that Luca doesn't take

915
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: things seriously, that Luca can get out of shape, that

916
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: Luca can relax because the game is so easy for him.

917
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 3: The game comes so easy for him.

918
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: So take that beer and don't take a kick it

919
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: out of slap it out of his hand.

920
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: Dude, this is not the time, so shout out to.

921
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: Mikeel No, Michael Finley needs to, you know, go back

922
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 2: and play or something again, or just come on you

923
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: having a beer with his old man after what he

924
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: just did.

925
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: He didn't prove to you.

926
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 3: What are you celebrating for it? There's nothing that's one.

927
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: You can't get a beer. He didn't bust out champagne

928
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: and start cracking it on bottles.

929
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: No, no, because that same beer if they lose, they

930
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: can look at Luca didn't take things serious, he's out

931
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: of shape.

932
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 3: You're saving them from him.

933
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: Shit, So isn't that for for Luca to decide whether

934
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 2: he wants to have someone screaming on a TV be

935
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: mad at him.

936
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: When Luca steps in with his third NBA championship or whatever,

937
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: he wants to hold a beer have at it. But

938
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: right now he's trying to build his legacy. Michael's doing

939
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: what's best for him. And I really do love, you know,

940
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: love that move because it was taking He was definitely

941
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: taking care of Luca.

942
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it in infantilized him, made him look

943
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 2: like he sunned.

944
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: Him, as he should. Luca's young, lucas not the veteran,

945
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: the experience.

946
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: Six year NBA. Last year, everybody was telling him that

947
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: he was never gonna win because of all these things.

948
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: Well, Michael, I love you because I know you don't

949
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: believe this. You're just blowing smoke, but you know that

950
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: Luca hasn't won anything, and you know you're not and

951
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: you're not ready to crown or annoint Luca to anywhere.

952
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: We know that.

953
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: So so the next this point in the NBA where

954
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 2: we're at, sure.

955
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: There's there's yeah, there's no MVPs there's no championships. We

956
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: want to annoy somebody and hopefully he can be that guy,

957
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: or right now he's not and we know that. So

958
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: you're your on page and you and you'd be the

959
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: first person going, well, remember that beer he was drinking.

960
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: Look, I would be the first person. Then you obviously

961
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 2: don't know me very well.

962
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: Well, no, you'd be in on it. You'd be in,

963
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: you'd be in. People turn well, no, you're reasonable. You're reasonable.

964
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: Why I thought I feel personally attacked.

965
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 3: It's not about you, it's the it's the Perci.

966
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: Screaming and all those clowns out of this.

967
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, no. Brethren here, I am

968
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: not even mentioning that, and so we we we you

969
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: know me, we ain't even having that conversation. That's not

970
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But I'm saying that narrative would very

971
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: easily be Luca's not taking things serious in the knock

972
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: on him. And you can draw the similarities with Luca

973
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: even with Joker. Okay, similar right horse racing, Like the

974
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: dudes un interested in basketball, and it's like you're sitting

975
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: there and you're supposed to be the best.

976
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 3: Athlete on the planet.

977
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: One of the best athletes on the planet, and you're

978
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: chugging a beer afterwards, and you're a guy who's had injuries,

979
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: You're a guy who's been out of shape. You're a

980
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: guy who who seemingly the game is too easy for you.

981
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: So when you talk about, hey man, what are you

982
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: doing chugging that beer? No, slap that thing out of

983
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: his hand, because we need you in shape, we need

984
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: you focused, we need you ready, and you ain't want

985
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: nothing yet, you know, go get him a get him

986
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: an energy drink, Get.

987
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: Him those are healthy for you.

988
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 3: Well, not that you know what I'm saying, something healthy.

989
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: Give you some whole whole week grain glory content on

990
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: that beer.

991
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: But I think he'd ran enough to probably earn one,

992
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: didn't he.

993
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, need him in shape.

994
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: No, it's it's if you had the biggest moment of

995
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: your life and.

996
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: You're and you're going to beer with my old man.

997
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: No, no, celebrate what you ain't won nothing yet, nothing yet, celebrate.

998
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: What Mike, there's nothing to celebrate yet.

999
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: No, if it's just a post game normal thing, right,

1000
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: if it was Game three and he was standing there.

1001
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: I know a lot of coaches teammates, whatever that may

1002
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: do that you wait until the proper time, waiting until

1003
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: you're on the airplane. Do not do this in the

1004
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: hallways because you're Luca's about to step into the NBA

1005
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: Championship with easily the most distractions that he's ever seen

1006
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: in a ballgame. And I know he played in some

1007
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: major games overseas, but this one is going to be different.

1008
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 3: So when you.

1009
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: Say, do not put a beer in your hand, do

1010
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: not do those things. Do not give these people anything

1011
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: to talk to you about. We're gonna we're gonna do

1012
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: our partying, okay, and if he chooses to amongst ourselves,

1013
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: but we're not gonna give these people anything negative to

1014
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: talk about you with.

1015
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: Not not one thing, not one thing.

1016
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 2: So did you think it was more than it was?

1017
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: Not a NBA sponsor, No, not even closed.

1018
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: Now, Philly don't care about that. Philly knows the perception.

1019
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: He's just like, look, I'm not gonna put you in

1020
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: a bad place, like you're not gonna take this beer.

1021
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have that because we don't need anybody

1022
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: questioning how serious you're taking things that you you know,

1023
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: in moments, Luca's been injured in the playoffs. Luca hadn't

1024
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: been ready. Alcohol is not good for your recovery. That

1025
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: is not the way you recovered. Now, maybe you mentally recover,

1026
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: and that's where you're like, hey, the guy needs a break.

1027
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 3: You know, he did a lot.

1028
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: No, ain't nothing done yet, because if they lose, that

1029
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: means nothing. If they lose with the best team that

1030
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: Dallas has had since the championship, it means nothing. So no, no,

1031
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: my friend, no beer for you. No, Luca, you win

1032
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,479
Speaker 1: a championship. As a matter of fact, Michael Philly's gonna

1033
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: hand him a beer. He's gonna personally add them one.

1034
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: Should back up a truck like they did years ago

1035
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: for some of those NBA players, because I don't know.

1036
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: I just thought it was a bad look that. I mean,

1037
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: he was smooth with it, don't get me wrong, the

1038
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: way he slipped it out of his hand and and

1039
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: got the quizzical look. But he just one of those

1040
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: h made him look like a child and treated him

1041
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: like one.

1042
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 3: He is.

1043
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, seemingly he is. Yeah, yeah he is. He had

1044
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: one none, yeah he is.

1045
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: He got a week off between games, and the man

1046
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: can't have none here, No, he cannot. Now if he

1047
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: was one of these guys coming straight from college and

1048
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: he u ball like you were talking about last hour,

1049
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: I'd agree with you because it'd be illegal.

1050
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: And that's what he's a twenty five year old grown

1051
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: ass man. That's that same mentality that will have Luca home.

1052
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: In losing. So no, wow, No, it's he took.

1053
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: It all the way there, that that that would be

1054
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 2: the thing that takes him home. That he pauses after

1055
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: beating this defensive juggernaut as they've been laid up and

1056
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 2: he got I pause to have a conversation and a

1057
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 2: beer with his old man. Yep, he's not standing there

1058
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: with a six pack, he doesn't have a mini cag

1059
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 2: and he's doing stands.

1060
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: It's that, dude, is that serious. It's that serious at

1061
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: that level. It's that serious. It is. It's that serious.

1062
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: It's it's not casual.

1063
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that just seems extreme.

1064
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 3: But winning is it? Winning is extreme?

1065
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: No?

1066
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: No, and I get it. It's we're just stay I

1067
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 2: got a week before I got to play basketball again.

1068
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: It's it's probably the hardest thing you are ever gonna do,

1069
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 1: literally the hardest in your life. It is that extreme.

1070
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: So yes, absolutely, there's no question. It is not casual.

1071
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: There's not casual. You're gonna win an NBA championship. There's

1072
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: no part of your day that's not accounted for. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing that's not tight. And I just went to an

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference finals. So as far as that, no, or

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00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: if that's your routine, like everything in your life has

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00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: to be that tight. So Michael Finley saw Luca eating

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00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: a little loose and said, no, don't.

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00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 3: I don't care what you did.

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00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: You the job is not finished because if you blink

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00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: for a second, you've lost. Just that second, that's that's

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00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: all it is. And you lost because Boston is gearing up.

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00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: Boston is hearing everybody and they're talking hands like me

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00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: and you and saying they're not good enough, they're not

1084
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: serious enough, they're not locked in.

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00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 3: They can't do it.

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00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: So you know, Boston's gonna have some motivation. And guess what,

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00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: they swept the Pacers, so they got a little more

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00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: arrest even than Dallas got because Dallas didn't take care

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00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: of business and they already took a look over and

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00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: didn't come with it the way that they should have

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00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: came with it.

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00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: Boston in the sweep three games where the win probability

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00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 2: in the final minute, got within what ninety four percent

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Speaker 2: twice and ninety percent a third and snatched the souls

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Speaker 2: of the Indiana Pacers. We'll continue with the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 2: At the Ryan Hollins where you find them on Twitter,

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Speaker 2: find me over in the Instagram and X Worlds keep

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Speaker 2: trying to, you know, make Twitter still happen. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know what it is anymore. At Swollen Dome is

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Speaker 2: where you find me there. It's it's a cesspool, but

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Speaker 2: it's still where we communicate and hang out and get

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Speaker 2: our thoughts and do all our previews. Find the podcast

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Speaker 2: wherever you pull your audio, it'll go up. After we're donnian.

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Speaker 2: I'll make sure that that goes up as well.

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Speaker 3: Ryan.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's one of those things when apps and

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Speaker 2: brands that you've come to know change names, trying to

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Speaker 2: get people to adopt the new name and recognize the

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Speaker 2: change is sometimes difficult.

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Speaker 3: It is it is.

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Speaker 1: And I just say Twitter, I haven't taken in X.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean on air we'll say you know

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Speaker 1: via X you know, to be proper, But you know,

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Speaker 1: I just say Twitter. Don't mind me. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: think anybody's offended when you say.

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Speaker 2: I don't know it's twenty twenty four. I could say eh,

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Speaker 2: and or thought and I can get people offended. Oh gosh, yeah, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know what you said around that? And I didn't

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Speaker 2: say anything. I just say, how dare you look the

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00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: Mavericks and the Celtics. Right, Celtics are six and a

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00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 2: half point favorites game one. We've got a few more

1139
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: days to chop it all up and find all the

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Speaker 2: angles you you'll I'm sure we'll join Smith and I

1141
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 2: later on this week as we get ready towards Game one.

1142
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: But as you and I sit here across America and

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Speaker 2: the globe this morning, however, and wherever people are listening,

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00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: if the if I give you the sentence, and porzingis

1145
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: we've already stipulated we expect him back in some capacity

1146
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: dot dot. But let's just assume he plays a limited role.

1147
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: For the Celtics. To win, Player X has to be big,

1148
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: and you can't give me Tatum or Brown.

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00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 3: What can I give you? Prosingis we just talked about prosilans?

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00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: No. I guess well no, but I mean, like, say

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00:59:54,480 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: he's not a say available, I'll.

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Speaker 1: Go, You're gonna need the ball in Drew Holliday's hands.

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01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: Jew Holiday is gonna have to make play.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Yeah, the porzingist thing. It's just, uh,

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01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 2: they made it to this point in a full month

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Speaker 2: without him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll compare it to like Mike Conley. He'll

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Speaker 1: be kind of like Mike Conley was from Minnesota, where

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Speaker 1: you know, if Jew Holliday's aggressive offensively, he doesn't mind

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Speaker 1: sharing the sugar in getting everybody else involved, you know,

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Speaker 1: so I will That's.

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Speaker 3: Where I'll go.

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Speaker 2: I like that because you had the defensive side of

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01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 2: it is really where I think he he potentially has

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Speaker 2: the big impact. We saw it in the last series.

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Speaker 2: You know what he did when he was locked in

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Speaker 2: on Halliburton before he got hurt.

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Speaker 1: But I think your offense, his offense is gonna have

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Speaker 1: to be there. He's gonna he can't kind of just

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Speaker 1: sit off in the corner because he's the guy that

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01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: you can't really you know, account for. He's the guy

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Speaker 1: that can he can go off, he can score and

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01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: again he's a great passer. He's going to make sure

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01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: the ball moves. And what's the problem with Boston when

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Speaker 1: they kind of when they're going, they can staging it right,

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Speaker 1: and you know, if Drew has it, he's going to

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Speaker 1: make sure those guys, you know, are open. And now

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Speaker 1: if you're in a closeout situation with Jason Tatum Jaylen

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Speaker 1: Brown where they have a head of steam or they

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Speaker 1: have separation, it's a much different matchup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just a curiosity, right because we watched the

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01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 2: Celtics and again they swept the Pacers and man, it's

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01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: still four to h I mean, you don't change it.

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Speaker 2: And we talk about competitive sweeps and we've had our

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Speaker 2: laughs at that owing to all of the soundbites that

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Speaker 2: came out of that Lakers Denver series season last season.

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Speaker 2: But when we look at it, you know, in that series,

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Speaker 2: when they needed a play and they made a play,

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Speaker 2: right as much as we talk win percentages and best

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Speaker 2: shots from Indiana, and they made plenty of miscues, plenty

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Speaker 2: of coaching curiosities from Rick Carlisle in decision making timeouts

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Speaker 2: and didn't whatever we can, we can write a six

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Speaker 2: page you know, treatise for a short short film, uh,

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Speaker 2: if we want. The fact of the matter is the

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Speaker 2: Celtics found a way to make plays and come get it.

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Speaker 1: They did, they did, and you know, they they found

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Speaker 1: a way and you know, Indiana they fought. They weren't

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Speaker 1: the best competition, but they fought, they played together. I

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Speaker 1: think Rick Carlile did an amazing job.

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Speaker 2: I mean just just there's the overall great job, and

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Speaker 2: then there's in the moment kind of thing, which is

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Speaker 2: the definite.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he dropped the ball.

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Speaker 1: I mean the fact that they were still competitive in

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Speaker 1: their best player, Alett Martin, was on the sideline for

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Speaker 1: a timeout.

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Speaker 2: Or a decision here or there in the final minutes.

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Speaker 2: You take that ninety four percent win probability to one hundred.

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Speaker 1: Well, we talked about it. I'm not taking that time

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Speaker 1: out because now one of the best defenses in the

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Speaker 1: NBA gets to get set, and once they're set, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe you can go early, you know, and try to

1213
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Speaker 1: figure things out. You were aggressive, you made a strong play,

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Speaker 1: and it just didn't work out. So I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't have any any second guessing, you know, his decision not.

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Speaker 3: To go early. You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm all in with with what Rick did.

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Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't mind it.

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01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was also thinking back to the the other

1220
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,479
Speaker 2: inbounds insanity with Pascal Siakam coming back to the ball.

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Speaker 1: No, but again, the player's got to make plays in

1222
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: those situations. I thought that Rick got them where they

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Speaker 1: needed to go, and the guys just you know, didn't deliver.

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Speaker 1: But you know, with all due respect, it wasn't it

1225
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: wasn't their time yet, you know, and that's when you

1226
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: look at look at Oklahoma City. Would you blame their coach,

1227
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, for for Shay fouling the three point shooter

1228
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Speaker 1: at the end of the game.

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Speaker 3: No, I think it just wasn't bad.

1230
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I mean that's a play, right, I mean,

1231
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 2: and yes, you have to make plays, but if you

1232
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 2: have the opportunity to stop, stop the action and advance

1233
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 2: the ball, that doesn't do you any good with that

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01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 2: timeout still in your pocket.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't. Personally, I think Rick did a

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Speaker 3: great job.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to know overrobably did that fantastic job. Right,

1238
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: They delivered, they took advantage of situations as well. Right,

1239
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: we talked about the Celtics in their path and certainly

1240
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: the Pacers. You know that Nick squad. We'll get into

1241
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: Brunson here in about fifteen minutes because I liked what

1242
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 2: he had to say about it, you know, kind of

1243
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 2: fighting back against a national narrative there. All right, let

1244
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 2: me flip it to the other squad. Then for Dallas,

1245
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 2: we've got Luca and we've got Kyrie, and who's got

1246
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: to be the third player to step in for them

1247
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 2: for this to work? Or is it just an amalgam

1248
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: of what's been working.

1249
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: No, man, I think he's emerged, and we saw it

1250
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: more so with his injury. Talked about him earlier in

1251
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: the show. I think that Derek Lively because you know, defensively,

1252
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, he's really held down the paint and if

1253
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: you look back, like it was a different Anthony Edwards

1254
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: when he was on the floor versus him being off

1255
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: the floor, you know that Dallas defense goes to a

1256
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: whole nother level because he's big, He contests, he plays

1257
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: without fouling, you know. He man, he does a lot

1258
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: of things really really good for their ball club. So

1259
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: I think Lively, I'm pretty sure like he's the difference

1260
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: with them. You know, That's who I'm going to look

1261
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: to and say that, hey man, he you know they

1262
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: got to have that's the the must have, that's the

1263
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: consistency that has to be there for the Mavericks. And

1264
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: you know it's honestly, you know, from the guard position,

1265
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: you can you can toss a coin up at at

1266
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: Kyrie and Tatum and Brown and Luca and just say, hey,

1267
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: let's say those two stars all set. I think le

1268
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: Lively at the rim that is the game. I know

1269
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: that is the the game changer for them.

1270
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: I like that digging deep with the rook eight six

1271
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 2: and seven to two a game here in the postseason,

1272
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 2: the Richard retard of klee right because he missed significant

1273
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 2: time and he got some minutes late here. So with

1274
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 2: an extra week off again, this is where you know,

1275
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: as much as folks may lament the layoff, it gives

1276
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 2: us the best opportunity in theory to get back towards

1277
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 2: Fullish squads. Now, whether Chris Stops can come back and

1278
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 2: give you twenty five or thirty minutes a night remains

1279
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: to be seen. We talked about it a little earlier

1280
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: in the show of It'll be a curiosity, all right,

1281
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 2: We're starting to get a little tape of him working

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Speaker 2: out and all. But Kleeber was a guy that missed time.

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01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 2: And when we talk about the defensive rotations and guys

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01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 2: being able to run some bodies and cut off lanes

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01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 2: and passing angles and stuff, you know, between Gafford, Lively

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01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 2: and Kleeber, you've got the three headed monster. I just

1287
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 2: hope it doesn't come down to free throw shooting for

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01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 2: the Mavericks because you know, outside of Kyrie Irving, that's

1289
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 2: an adventure. Oh, how's that to put it nicely, it's

1290
01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 2: an adventure.

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01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: Lose the finals because of free throw shooting, that would

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01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: be crazy. You know, there's just just a lack of focus.

1293
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: And it hasn't happened like yet, but.

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Speaker 2: It's seventy two percent in the playoffs, seventy five point

1295
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 2: eight percent as a team during the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and remember, uh, Luca, Luca missed, he missed miss Yeah,

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01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: not just free throws like big ones, dude, like huge ones.

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01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. I remember in my mind's eye, Smith and

1299
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 2: I were on air and just looked at it and goes, really,

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01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 2: he made that shot and then he missed the free throw.

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01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: And it well, there was there was one where like

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01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: they needed his to be in the game, and like

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01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: like he's missed like a couple, dude, like one, just

1304
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: one or two, Like there's a couple he missed.

1305
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one in particular I'm thinking of in one

1306
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 2: of those comeback efforts. In the end, they're still on

1307
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:58,959
Speaker 2: their way to the final. But yeah, not without their

1308
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 2: their stressful moments along the way, no question about it.

1309
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 2: Let's see two or three of the last game where

1310
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 2: there was an eight of ten. Go back to the

1311
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 2: prior series. You had a game against OKC when he

1312
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 2: went six for ten. Now, they got drummed in that game,

1313
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 2: so it's hard to put that into context. But yes,

1314
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: it's certainly something just from a team perspective when you

1315
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,560
Speaker 2: look at PJ. Washington and some of the other regulars

1316
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 2: that'll see minutes, something to be thinking of as you're

1317
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 2: in these close games, and particularly if you're in the

1318
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 2: wagering in investing markets as well, that'll come in on

1319
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 2: you as well. But yeah, everybody that isn't named Tatum,

1320
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 2: Brown or Luca a veritable long shot if you're looking

1321
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 2: to put a few dollars towards the NBA Finals. MVP

1322
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 2: Kyrie coming in at eighteen to twenty to one is

1323
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 2: a guy that you know, those are pretty nice odds

1324
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 2: for a guy who's going to handle the ball and

1325
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 2: see as much time as he does. He's Ryan Hollins.

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01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 2: I'm Mike Carbon here Fox Sports, Fox Sports Radio at

1327
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 2: the Ryan Hollins where you find Ryan ten years in

1328
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 2: the league working over with the Houston Rockets, and of

1329
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 2: course my teammate here on Fox Sports Sundays find me

1330
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: over at Swollen Dome. Now we turn it over to

1331
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 2: a guy who is still watching Blackout Baseball may have

1332
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: installed a black light and a disco ball in the

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01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 2: update studio, my guy, Isaac.

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01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 7: Low and Cron You're actually right about that, and it

1335
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 7: revealed some disturbing things in this studio.

1336
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, dude.

1337
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 3: What wow?

1338
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna leave that alone, right.

1339
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 7: Wow, I was talking about the disco ball. Oh okay,

1340
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 7: get your minds out of the gutter. It's Sunday. People

1341
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 7: are at church anyway. Headed to the opposite of the gutter.

1342
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 7: The Florida Panthers, Ladies and gentlemen. They are going to

1343
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 7: the Stanley Cup Final for a second straight years. In

1344
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 7: Game six of the Easter Conference Final on Saturday night,

1345
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,600
Speaker 7: they defeated the New York Rangers two to one to

1346
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 7: win the series four games to two. They will face

1347
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 7: either the Edmonton Oilers or the Dallas Stars for the

1348
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 7: Stanley Cup. In Major League Baseball, on Saturday night, the

1349
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 7: New York Yankees won at San Francisco seven to three

1350
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 7: Aaron Judges major League leading twenty first home run of

1351
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 7: the season. In LA, the Dodgers defeated the Colorado Rockies

1352
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 7: four to one. At Wrigley, it was the Cubs over

1353
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 7: the Cincinnati Read seven to five, and get this, Dansby

1354
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 7: Swanson hit the go ahead two run home run in

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01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 7: the bottom of the eighth inning. On the same day

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01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 7: that his wife, Mallory Swanson scored two goals for the

1357
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,719
Speaker 7: US women's national soccer team in a four nothing victory

1358
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 7: over South Korea. Again, quite a day for the Swanson family.

1359
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 7: Phillies over the Cardinals six to one. Bryce Harper his

1360
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 7: fourteenth home run Philadelphia as the best record of the

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01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 7: majors at forty one and eighteen, follow finally Mike and Ryan.

1362
01:10:54,920 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 7: In college baseball, Division three school Birmingham Southern College, which

1363
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:06,839
Speaker 7: was founded back in eighteen fifty six, closed its doors

1364
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 7: on Friday due to financial hardship. Even though the school

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01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 7: technically does not exist anymore, its baseball team is competing

1366
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 7: in the Division three College World Series, and on Saturday

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01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 7: it faced Randolph Macon in an elimination game that was

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01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,560
Speaker 7: tied at seven in the bottom of the ninth with

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01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 7: a runner on and Birmingham Southern's Jackson Webster at the plate.

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01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: Blessed to the left.

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01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 2: Are you kidding? Are you kidding? And do you believe?

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01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: Alive and kicking.

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01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 11: Birmingham Southern Wednesday nine to seven.

1374
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 9: Bob Brainer the call.

1375
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 7: So Birmingham Southern will now face Wisconsin Whitewater in another

1376
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 7: elimination game later today, even though its school technically does

1377
01:11:58,520 --> 01:11:59,879
Speaker 7: not exist anymore.

1378
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, well, that's the way to go

1379
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 2: out and style, right, it's a it's a final appreciate you.

1380
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 2: Ilo at Isaac Lowancrow where you find him, Angel City

1381
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 2: FC broadcaster getting ready while we got ninety seven days

1382
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 2: or so until we attack the earth with more enthusiasm,

1383
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 2: you know, unknown to man or something like that. The

1384
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh quote as he's part of the Chargers broadcast,

1385
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 2: just really quickly. Going back to Mallory Swanson, right, so

1386
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 2: she scores twice in this game, and because you've got

1387
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 2: teammates Lindsay Iran and Sophia Smith, they would need some

1388
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: tickets as well, because all you know, local local products.

1389
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: She ended up buying a suite to make sure enough

1390
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 2: family and friends can show up.

1391
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 3: Wow, I like that. It's pretty cool.

1392
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 2: Not a bad way to go, No, not at all.

1393
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: I did not know. It was also called Dick's Sporting

1394
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: Goods Park, So there you use me. Yeah, the sporting

1395
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 2: goods store. Oh yeah, how about that? Who knew?

1396
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Speaker 3: Who knew?

1397
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 2: Ell sponsors everywhere. Once I'm rich and famous, I'll do

1398
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 2: the same somewhere, probably a park bench somewhere where you're

1399
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 2: sitting me the ducks. What do you mean once I

1400
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: got to get the paycheck that goes with it?

1401
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 1: Brother, You know that pretty big time due your workhorse, dude.

1402
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 2: Well yeah, that's it. Get on my back. I will

1403
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,600
Speaker 2: carry you with my quads, There's no question about it.

1404
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 2: At the Ryan Hollins where you find them on Twitter,

1405
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 2: and you are much too kind. Find me over at

1406
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 2: Swollen Dom. Hey. Reminder that shortly after the show, the

1407
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 2: podcast goes up. If you missed any of today's show,

1408
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 2: be sure to check it out. Search Fox Sports Radio

1409
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to follow rate

1410
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 2: review it. That's the key. Tell us how pretty we

1411
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 2: are and how well we argued with one another this morning.

1412
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 2: Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, you'll

1413
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 2: see this show posted by our guy Ian right after

1414
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 2: we get off the air, and coming out next we'll

1415
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 2: circle back. The Knicks may be vanquished, but I want

1416
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 2: to give some love, one more last breadth to their season,

1417
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 2: courtesy of their star. We'll do it next here on

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01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: Fox Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports

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01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: Radio Live inthetirac dot Com Studios Mike Harman along side

1420
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 2: my guy, Ryan Hollins at the Ryan Hollins ten Years

1421
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 2: in the League, part of the Houston Rockets, broadcast here

1422
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 2: with me every Sunday and of course crossed our Fox

1423
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:23,560
Speaker 2: Sports Radio network as we get ready for the NBA Finals.

1424
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,480
Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit about a couple of basketball

1425
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 2: legends and stars that we lost this week, coming up

1426
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 2: at the top of the hour. One with a huge

1427
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 2: connection certainly to the upbringing of my guy here as

1428
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 2: a basketball player, no question about it. We'll do that

1429
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 2: coming up in about ten minutes. But Ryan, I wanted

1430
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 2: to hit the rewind button on the Knicks, not that

1431
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 2: I haven't had to do it a lot with my guys.

1432
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: I was going to say you voluntarily doing.

1433
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 2: This, No, because I actually liked this story. Because seven

1434
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 2: to eleven Pacific is where you find Jason and I

1435
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 2: and certainly you've heard the promo listened to any Fox

1436
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 2: Sports radio of me trying to make a nice cogent argument,

1437
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 2: a salient point and him screaming over the top with

1438
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: his oh oh, I can't even do it because I'll

1439
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 2: never get my throat back. But the idea of the

1440
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 2: Knicks and the narrative at the end of the year

1441
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 2: was battered, broken down, and Jalen Bronson was like the

1442
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 2: final straw right where he has the hand injury as

1443
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: they go down and defeat in a blowout fashion to

1444
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 2: the Pacers. But we always talk Ryan about reasons and excuses, right,

1445
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 2: reasons something happened versus well, you know what, it would

1446
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 2: have been altogether different if that the other Right if

1447
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 2: in that review in this last series, Kyrie Irving had

1448
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 2: been called for a file instead of getting a ball

1449
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 2: awarded out of mounds. Do we have a different series,

1450
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 2: Do we have a different outcome in that game? Maybe?

1451
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 2: Maybe not. I'll leave the what if to the animation

1452
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 2: people over at Disney and Marvel. It's pretty good series,

1453
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 2: by the way, if you haven't watched that two seasons

1454
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 2: of it thus far, third season coming all the different

1455
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 2: scenarios in the time continuum as they switch. But for

1456
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson, finally, you know, a little bit removed from

1457
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 2: the season, he doesn't want to hear about your excuses

1458
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 2: for why the Knicks went away.

1459
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 8: The one thing I hated the most, even though like

1460
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 8: we were playing well, we were winning, we were up two,

1461
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 8: oh did up three to two. Whenever we lost, like

1462
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 8: everyone was like, Oh, it's they're tired, or they're injuries

1463
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 8: or anything like. Honestly, that that kind of like pissed

1464
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 8: me off because I mean, yeah, we don't have a

1465
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 8: full team, but like we don't want to use that.

1466
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 8: I don't want the narrative of being like, oh, they're hurt,

1467
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 8: so like let's give him a pass. Like no, like

1468
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 8: we had chances to win that series and didn't maybe

1469
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 8: a chance to go up three to zero and we didn't. Like,

1470
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Speaker 8: I just I just hate the fact that sometimes people

1471
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 8: give us the fact that we were injured or the

1472
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 8: injuries happen. Yeah, they're part of the game, but that's

1473
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 8: not the Reasonay we lost. We had a chance to win,

1474
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 8: like we were winning with those injuries. Like I don't

1475
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,799
Speaker 8: know it kind of I just hate the narrative.

1476
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 2: See that's why I wanted to shine a spotlight on

1477
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson here. And I'll disavow that this ever happened,

1478
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 2: might have to have Ian taken out of the podcast

1479
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 2: when it's all said and done, so Smith doesn't know

1480
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 2: it exists, Ryan Allins, But it's the idea that you're injured,

1481
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 2: and we've talked about it a lot with teams, from

1482
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 2: Giannis to Lillard to just go on down the line, right,

1483
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 2: the Clippers come into this season and go through the

1484
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 2: regular season, a lot of expectations. Guess what, you don't

1485
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 2: have your core there in the playoffs and you go

1486
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 2: home and for the Knicks. You know, part of it

1487
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 2: plays to the long standing Tom Thibodeau discussion about wearing

1488
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 2: guys out and playing for him and whatever else. But

1489
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 2: you legitimately had four of your seven or eight rotational

1490
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 2: guys that were no longer available to you. So it's

1491
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Speaker 2: a reason. But I like, you know, his idea. It's

1492
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 2: the NFL and an NBA mentality of next man up.

1493
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 2: We still had opportunities to go do stuff and we didn't.

1494
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this sounds like Rick Burntson's son.

1495
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 1: It sounds like something is Dad was making very clear,

1496
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 1: no excuses. Does it matter, No, dude, they were injured.

1497
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 1: They played so many minutes, you know, like and you

1498
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: know the glass half full is if they don't play

1499
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: those minutes, they don't do it. They don't get to

1500
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 1: that point. But these guys might not make it to

1501
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 1: next season.

1502
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 2: No, I mean that is a very real thing when

1503
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 2: you get into the world. Having watched it in Chicago

1504
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 2: and his other stops.

1505
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: Listen, hamstrings and abdominal injuries could last a career, and

1506
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: I hope they don't. But I'm jokingly, not joking. They

1507
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 1: might not make it to next season and be able

1508
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 1: to report back and the broken hand should figure its

1509
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: way out. But I mean there was injuries on top

1510
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 1: of injury. It is like that, this is a real thing.

1511
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: It's not an excuse. You guys are going seven deep

1512
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: and the other side is playing ten eleven guys.

1513
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 3: That was that was the difference in the game.

1514
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: You know, you can war out man, when you have

1515
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: fresh defenders harassing you and guarding you and chasing you around.

1516
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 3: Listen.

1517
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: But again, hats off and and and that's why we

1518
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: love Jayleen Brunson, right, You love him because he's he's

1519
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 1: no excuses, chip off his old block, and man, I'm

1520
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: telling you, may Rick Brunson, that's as tough as you

1521
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: can get.

1522
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 3: Man, that dude was no nonsense.

1523
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 1: I remember I was a young rookie and night, man,

1524
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: I try to have I try to have a conversation

1525
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: on the side during the game at the free throw

1526
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 1: line with Rick Brunson.

1527
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 3: He wouldn't having no parts of it.

1528
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you right now, like yeah, that that

1529
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: is the right mentality. That's what we like James Brunson. Man,

1530
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: he is tough as nails. You know, he doesn't make excuses.

1531
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think he's the greatest nick ever.

1532
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think well, I mean that stopped,

1533
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: you know, but but he deserves all of the and

1534
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: then some for what he's done this season by far.

1535
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 2: Come on, folks that were pushing that narrative are the

1536
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: same one telling me that Kyrie and Luker are the

1537
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 2: greatest backcourt ever.

1538
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 3: Too, scoring scoring backcourt scoring.

1539
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 2: Oh all right, he's Ryan Hollins on my car. But

1540
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 2: we'll get back into that. And remembering Alegenddax dot Fox.

1541
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 5: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio, great eggs and welcome

1542
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 5: in another glorious Fox Sports Sunday Final Hour for Ryan

1543
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:33,439
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1544
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,880
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1547
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1548
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 2: at the Ryan Hollins find me over at Swollen Dome

1549
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 2: and Ryan. Another huge week ahead for our sporting universe.

1550
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: Lots of speculation about the NBA Finals. We'll dive back

1551
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 2: into that coming up in about twenty minutes. You've got

1552
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 2: the NBA Draft at the end of the month and

1553
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 2: all the fallout there. We start talking about opt outs

1554
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 2: and free agency, several days for Lebron, James and Clutch

1555
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 2: to do something before the finals start. What's the story

1556
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 2: they're gonna give us.

1557
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 3: I mean, Lebron don't need a store.

1558
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 2: You know that he always injects himself.

1559
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: Come on, man, well, no, no, no, no, in the

1560
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 1: sense of him getting paid, you know, I mean, Lebroni's

1561
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: high enough paid. I'm sure if there's some controversy Lebron

1562
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 1: will have a tweet that's going on, and you know

1563
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,719
Speaker 1: there'd be a lot of hoopla there. But you know, Lebron,

1564
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: he just enjoys himself. Man, He's kind of just he

1565
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 1: plays by his own rules.

1566
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 2: He well pretty nice about it. Yeah, if everybody had

1567
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 2: that opportunity, So why don't begrudge the guy? You know,

1568
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 2: I could disagree with things said or or how things

1569
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 2: get get out and whatever else. So that's fine, But

1570
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 2: in the end, we all look to have that bit

1571
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 2: of leverage in our own lives of course, right, I mean,

1572
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 2: it's it's the thing everybody wants, and it owes back

1573
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,839
Speaker 2: to some of the conversation from our one of folks

1574
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 2: that you know, feel like they should get some of

1575
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 2: the shine, right, going back to Caitlin Clark, the WNBA

1576
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 2: players who've been toiling, and spotlight's going to change how

1577
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 2: everybody looks at things. And maybe the game's always been

1578
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 2: played the same way, how about that and now you

1579
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: just have a spotlight on it all of those But

1580
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 2: with Lebron James, he's got to opt out. We had

1581
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 2: that SoundBite we you and I talked about it last week,

1582
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 2: Rich Paul saying, oh, Lebron's a free agent whatever, and

1583
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 2: at that point, like he hasn't exercised it. But if

1584
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 2: nothing else, it allows you to do a long term

1585
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 2: deal up to I think it's one hundred and sixty

1586
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 2: four million dollars there, Ryan, but just say it for

1587
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 2: argument's sake, for giggle's sake. He opts out, and I said,

1588
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 2: you know what we can get shit audience your team X.

1589
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 2: How would you start that conversation of Hey, le let

1590
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 2: me put you in this car I sell. Let me

1591
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 2: sell my team to you.

1592
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: I'd say, Hey, Lebron, I know all the things you're

1593
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: interested in.

1594
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 3: You know, we believe in you.

1595
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 1: We believe in Bronni and you you guys competing at

1596
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 1: a high level. I think that our city would love you.

1597
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: I think we would embrace you, and we would fit

1598
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 1: to whatever need you have. We think that you can

1599
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 1: help mentor our young stars. And at the same time

1600
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: you played it still at a high level, Lebron. We

1601
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: believe in you and whatever LA has to offer, Hey,

1602
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 1: will what you in? What you want, piece of ownership?

1603
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: What do you want to do, Lebron? You want NBA,

1604
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: NFL will help you get wherever you need to go.

1605
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: Because we believe in you and not just you, we

1606
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: believe in Bronni. And hey, let's do a handshake deal

1607
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: with your with with Brce too. We'll draft in at you.

1608
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: How about that? How about that for a deal? You

1609
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: can't turn that down, Lebron.

1610
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 2: Now you got the second son in extend the contract.

1611
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 2: I mean, they can't pay as outside of the Lakers,

1612
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 2: they can't pay the same level. But you know, as

1613
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 2: you say, there's there's ways to do this. And let's

1614
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 2: face it, not everything's gonna be on a standard NBA contract,

1615
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 2: not that you can promise the ownership right now, at

1616
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 2: least not from what we're disclosed.

1617
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: No, no, But but games, you know what is my

1618
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna I'm gonna throw it out there.

1619
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 1: Oh of course, you know it's it's it's in the air.

1620
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 2: You know, it's already Yeah, it's it's already been broached

1621
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: a million times. Right. Would he want ownership of the

1622
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 2: team if one comes to Las Vegas? Right, We've been

1623
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 2: talking about that for years. But I think that's one

1624
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 2: of the fascinating things of this whole scenario of just

1625
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 2: you know, again, play the what if game? Right like

1626
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 2: we do with a lot of games, right, one decision here,

1627
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 2: one play, one call, all of that stuff and how

1628
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 2: it changes fortunes and futures along the way. And for

1629
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 2: Lebron James, because look, I've argued, outside of the financial

1630
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 2: part of things, I'm wondering if the Western Conference, if

1631
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 2: it isn't in the Lakers' best interest to kind of

1632
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 2: look and say it's been a good run and try

1633
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 2: to figure out who that next superstar is. Again, I

1634
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 2: recognize the economics of it and the optics of it

1635
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,679
Speaker 2: and all of that star town, big star, et cetera.

1636
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 2: But in terms of winning in the conference, whether a

1637
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 2: reboot is it shouldn't be in order.

1638
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: That would be the that would be the logical choice.

1639
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you nobody wants to sit through it.

1640
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 2: But you're already but you're already a borderline playing team.

1641
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 2: Oh you're right right, And this you got kind of

1642
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 2: both of these guys. You know, when we were talking

1643
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 2: about health and Luca and all these guys earlier. It's like,

1644
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 2: you got seventy plus games out of Lebron and a

1645
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 2: D and that's what you got and the West ain't

1646
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:56,759
Speaker 2: getting any easier.

1647
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 1: Listen, Oh, it's it is as competitive as it's ever been.

1648
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: There's nothing that you're saying that's wrong. It's just LA

1649
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: don't want to do it. You know, LA doesn't want

1650
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 1: to do it, and you hope that, you know, maybe

1651
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: you can trade for a younger, much younger star or

1652
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: player that could fall into one of those roles to

1653
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 1: kind of keep the thing going. You know, that's what

1654
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 1: you're The reason you're saying is because that's what you're

1655
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 1: not seeing from the Lakers. So you kind of got

1656
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis would do it, but he can't quite take

1657
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 1: the reins, you know, from Lebron. So we'll see, we'll

1658
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: see the Lakers. They're gonna have some stuff they gotta

1659
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: you know, they definitely got to figure out.

1660
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 2: Well, because the other thing that kind of went under

1661
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 2: the wire, you know, is all these stories float about,

1662
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 2: was that the Pelicans deferred taking that final pick from

1663
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 2: the Lakers until twenty twenty five. Oh yeah, right, So

1664
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 2: the idea being yeah, you're gonna be worse next year

1665
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 2: in the draft is going to be better, So let's

1666
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 2: go so adding all that up, but I want to

1667
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,839
Speaker 2: take a minute because you know, we lost two players

1668
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 2: in the NBA World one with obviously the highest of profiles,

1669
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 2: and that is Bill Walton. Plenty of stories we we

1670
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 2: told a couple, you know, interactions with him through the years,

1671
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 2: Smith having him on a radio show long ago, basically

1672
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:21,600
Speaker 2: setting him up for all right, here's what we're going

1673
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 2: to talk about. He went on for about five minutes

1674
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 2: and breaking down every game that had happened, and then

1675
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 2: he said, all right, Jason, what do you want to

1676
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 2: talk about? So that kind of thing, you know, and

1677
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: certainly many stories you can find them all over the web.

1678
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 2: But since you are a U. C. L A alum,

1679
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 2: be remissed if I didn't take a minute in all

1680
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 2: the all the years with the squad and being around

1681
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 2: that program, interactions memories of Walton in all these years,

1682
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 2: any particularly memorable run ins, Well.

1683
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: I say, and he had an her little career, And

1684
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: for myself it wasn't just on the court, it was

1685
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 1: it was in broadcasting too. We brought a lot of energy,

1686
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 1: a lot of life. He turned some heads. Definitely ahead

1687
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: of his time, Yeah, ahead of his time there. But

1688
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: to me, kind of a funny little interaction we had

1689
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 1: is you know, I didn't really get a chance to

1690
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,600
Speaker 1: see a lot of the former greats. When I was

1691
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: in college, we weren't. We didn't win until I left.

1692
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: And I'm sure they all showed up.

1693
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:30,600
Speaker 2: And they showed up after that.

1694
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 3: They all showed up right well. My first time seeing.

1695
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: Bill were at a at a coaches having a you know,

1696
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: the like the team banquet or whatever the deal is,

1697
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,719
Speaker 1: at his house barbecue whatever. Bill shows up. I'm excited.

1698
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, this is my first time to talk

1699
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 1: to Bill Walton. This is this is big. What am

1700
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 1: I gonna say? I'm asking h I'm like, hey, Bill,

1701
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: this is my senior year. We want to win. Man,

1702
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 1: We're trying to make things happen. You're part of one

1703
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: of the most winning teams ever in college history. You

1704
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: know what, what advice you know, would you have for

1705
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 1: myself and the guys going in? He's like run, And

1706
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, Bill, we're focused on the national championship.

1707
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 3: What do we have to run?

1708
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 2: That was never a bad advice had their spons Just run?

1709
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 1: That's what he said, you know, But I mean I

1710
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: just think anytime, you know, he was a ball of

1711
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 1: joy and energy, man, and you silly family definitely miss

1712
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 1: him and and also really sadden. You know, Bill was

1713
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 1: up in age. You know, probably a matter of time. Man,

1714
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 1: he would be very missed and very active and thankful

1715
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 1: for his efforts. But Drew Gordon Man whether Aaron Gordon, Yeah,

1716
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 1: and Drew Man, I remember he was a freshman on campus. Dude,

1717
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 1: really Sadden. I didn't get all the details and not

1718
01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:58,799
Speaker 1: think it was a car accident.

1719
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 3: I'm not. Don't quote me on specifically, but that one sucks.

1720
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: Drew was it had a little stint in the NBA,

1721
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 1: big big name coming into u c l A. A

1722
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 1: lot of energy, a lot of confidence. He is the

1723
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 1: reason his little brother is pushed his little brother to greatness,

1724
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 1: which is always cool. Sometimes it's not about you, but that, yeah,

1725
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 1: that hurts man, So condolences to him. The Gordon family,

1726
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 1: the Walden family were mourning over at U c l A.

1727
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 1: And you know, Mike, when we think about athletes, right

1728
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 1: like we think they're indestructible, like they'll never stop, you know,

1729
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: like we're talking, we're talking about Lebron.

1730
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, he's thirty nine. This is gonna be

1731
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 3: forty the big bar Old next year.

1732
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 1: You know, this is gonna be Ken Griffrey junior and

1733
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 1: senior playing in the NBA, which is unheard of you.

1734
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 2: But I need him to play another decade because then

1735
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 2: I'm not old.

1736
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 3: I'm with it. I'm with it, dude.

1737
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 1: But we just don't believe these guys ever sat But

1738
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 1: there's a humanity side of sports and condolences to the

1739
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 1: family and prayers for their strength getting through these tough Yeah.

1740
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 2: I mean we had it last week. Got emotional on

1741
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 2: air just thinking about that moment a lot this week.

1742
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 2: You know, the highs and lows again, checking in on

1743
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 2: your people as you can. It was a car accident

1744
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 2: to car accident Drew Gordon, aged thirty three, so you know,

1745
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 2: and we think in the annals of history some you

1746
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 2: know that changed careers irreparably, but didn't result in loss

1747
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 2: of life. With a number of athletes as well, you

1748
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 2: know the near misses, and I think all of us

1749
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,679
Speaker 2: can relate in our personal lives. I had an accident

1750
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen that should have taken me out fire. Marshall

1751
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 2: looked at me after they're cleaning stuff and goes, woll boy,

1752
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 2: that was about six inches pal. I'm like yeah, and

1753
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 2: then you know walk away, and you know it's something

1754
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 2: you think about a lot. So it's it's that kind

1755
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 2: of thing. So yeah, it's it's for UCLA a very

1756
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 2: difficult week and the outpouring of and certainly Drew Gordon

1757
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 2: and his brother. I mean, you think about what the

1758
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets had going on in the locker room, not

1759
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 2: you know, with with Michael Porter Junior and everything going

1760
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 2: on with his family and now you know, Aaron Gordon

1761
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,560
Speaker 2: with the loss of his brother. I mean, just difficult times.

1762
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:22,720
Speaker 1: No, it is difficult. It's it's an understatement, man, And

1763
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:29,680
Speaker 1: I can't I can't imagine. I can't imagine. Man, you're

1764
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 1: forget a parent, like a sibling, a child, those things

1765
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: you know, you never you really never get past, you know.

1766
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 3: So man, my.

1767
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 1: Heart goes out to those guys and he does. I

1768
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 1: can imagine competing through a season and you know, not

1769
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 1: having you know, your brother there, you know, that family missing, man.

1770
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 1: That is that's tough. That is tough. There's nothing, there's

1771
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 1: none worse there.

1772
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 2: He's Ryan Hollins. I'm Mike Arman. This is Fox Sports Radio,

1773
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday. As we continue, we'll turn our

1774
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 2: attention back to the court, but thought it important to

1775
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 2: take a few minutes with the you know the passing

1776
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 2: of two players of that UCLA history that you've got there, Ryan,

1777
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 2: and thoughts to you all the the Bruins family and

1778
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 2: obviously all their family friends. Hopefully warm remembrances carry you through.

1779
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 2: We'll get back into the business of the NBA Finals

1780
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 2: here in a moment as we look at Kyrie Irving

1781
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,679
Speaker 2: and brought up heroes and villains to start the show,

1782
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 2: and well, one of those guys, Kyrie does carry one

1783
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 2: of those tags. Reminder though, Thoroughbred Racing as a new

1784
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 2: independent regulator TYSA, it's implementing comprehensive reforms the sports also

1785
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,760
Speaker 2: combining hands on care cutting edge technology can help keep

1786
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 2: its athletes safe. So to learn more, visit Safety Runs

1787
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Speaker 2: First dot Com at Safety Runs First dot Com. He's

1788
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 2: Ryan on Mike and this is Fox Sports Radio. Hey,

1789
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 2: welcome back in It's Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio,

1790
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 2: Mike Garment onside Ryan Hollins. As we continue here, wherever

1791
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:05,719
Speaker 2: you are out and about on a Sunday, we appreciate

1792
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 2: you making part of your day, whether it's your local station,

1793
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app, serious XM channel eighty three, voice in

1794
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 2: your head, I don't know, whatever the case may be

1795
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 2: podcast goes up after we're done as well, Ian Chris

1796
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 2: making us sound so good this morning alongside our guy

1797
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 2: Isaac Lowencron and Ryan. A couple more days to the

1798
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,680
Speaker 2: NBA Finals, so we're, you know, spinning the Dungeons and

1799
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 2: Dragons twenty sided die to come up with storyline after storyline.

1800
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 2: You've got the long history of the Celtics and all

1801
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 2: those championships of years gone by, as well as a

1802
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 2: number of Eastern Conference Finals appearances, and now here we

1803
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 2: are back in the finals. But one guy on the

1804
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 2: other side of things that finds himself He always in

1805
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 2: crosshairs here one way or another. It seems to be

1806
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving and former Celtics. So that's one of these

1807
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 2: subplots to all of this. Remember, I want to be

1808
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 2: here as long as you'll have me unless I don't,

1809
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 2: And off he goes and well traveled. We know of

1810
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 2: the man's history, and this is where I think we

1811
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 2: get into the hot take nonsense of the day in

1812
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 2: sports talk media, in television and radio, of I don't

1813
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 2: know that anybody really except for availability, be it injury,

1814
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 2: be it you know, some of the history that he's

1815
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 2: had here these last couple of years. I don't think

1816
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 2: there's ever been anybody assailing the aptitude and abilities of

1817
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving. If anything else, it's always been the boy

1818
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:47,600
Speaker 2: he could be the greatest. But then you've got all

1819
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 2: this stuff over here. Look flat Earth or not. You

1820
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 2: can believe that or not. That's not polarizing to me.

1821
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 2: That's just a all right, someone should give you some evidence,

1822
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 2: and eventually they did, and that's fine. Some of the

1823
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 2: other stuff you can and certainly entitled to opinions and

1824
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 2: discussions and all of that doesn't change what he is

1825
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 2: on the court when he shows up. When he took

1826
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 2: off to be part of a zoom call for a candidate,

1827
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:18,600
Speaker 2: he was exercising his important right as an American to

1828
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 2: be part of the electoral process, local, state, whatever. You

1829
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 2: can get a night off for that right, if you

1830
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 2: can take twenty percent off and still be eligible for awards.

1831
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe they agreed to it. I don't know.

1832
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 2: That's between him and his team and his teammates about those.

1833
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 2: But I don't know that it's ever been a question, right,

1834
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 2: there's always a guy's his heart, his ball handling, and

1835
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 2: as you teased at the end of the last hour right,

1836
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 2: the discussion being he and Luca as the greatest backcourt error,

1837
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 2: and you said scoring, and then I yelled as we

1838
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 2: went we are Fox Sports, but they haven't won anything yet.

1839
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 2: See what I did there?

1840
01:36:58,920 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

1841
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, for Kyrie Irving though, it's the narrative of

1842
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,520
Speaker 2: he goes back and he's going to play the Celtics.

1843
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:12,599
Speaker 2: And Joe Missoula, as you would expect, was getting questions

1844
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,600
Speaker 2: about Kyrie in his presser, rightly or.

1845
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 12: Wrongly, Kyrie is going to be perceived as a villain

1846
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 12: in this series. We all in someone's ass. Pardon me,

1847
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 12: We're all villains in someone's ass.

1848
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, we have.

1849
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:30,559
Speaker 12: Just how you know, you guys are good at turn

1850
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 12: tuning out the noise.

1851
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:33,600
Speaker 1: Is that something that you take into consideration.

1852
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 12: Listen, Like, he's a great player. He's done a lot

1853
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 12: of good things. I think just how he's carried himself.

1854
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:45,599
Speaker 12: You know, how he's played this postseason has been one

1855
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 12: of the fun things to watch as one of the

1856
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 12: themes in the NBA. So he's a great player, done

1857
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 12: a lot of great things over the course of his career,

1858
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 12: and he's playing really well.

1859
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 3: So you have to respect that.

1860
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 12: You can't take that for granted, and you have to

1861
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:00,639
Speaker 12: be ready to guard him and them.

1862
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 2: And Missoula's line, aren't we all in somebody's eyes? And

1863
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 2: every one of you across America and across the globe

1864
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 2: listening like, yeah, that guy, her, that guy, that guy,

1865
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 2: And suddenly you had a list that formed in your

1866
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 2: head of who you might be the villain uh to

1867
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 2: in your own life. Because look, everybody's righting their own

1868
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:25,520
Speaker 2: movie on a day to day basis. But for Kyrie Irving, unfortunately,

1869
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:29,560
Speaker 2: the sports talk world and you know how we cover athletes,

1870
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 2: we cover everybody's story. It's day to day, right, And

1871
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 2: what are you doing today? How did you perform today?

1872
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,679
Speaker 2: What are you putting out there in a given day?

1873
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 2: And is it, I guess the simplistic or maybe all

1874
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 2: too simplistic that in two years in Dallas, working with Luca,

1875
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 2: working with the squad, whatever, Jason Kid's been able to impart,

1876
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 2: he's found some peace and he's matured.

1877
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure, And I think a lot of

1878
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 1: it is situation. You know something about when you were

1879
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 1: with a peer and you are one of the best

1880
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 1: players on the planet and even though you guys should

1881
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 1: be getting along. I'm not saying that Kyrie didn't get

1882
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:16,760
Speaker 1: along with his teammates or anything like that, but there's

1883
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 1: just a competition level where he looks at Luca, he

1884
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 1: looks at the rest of his teammates, and there's no

1885
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:25,559
Speaker 1: competitive edge. You know, they're not like like, he's not

1886
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 1: bumping heads with Luca, He's not looking at Derek Thrones

1887
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 1: Junior the same way that the Celtics were looking at him.

1888
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:33,720
Speaker 1: It was kind of like a you know, Hey, it's

1889
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 1: the same reason why when Chris Paul went to Oklahoma

1890
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 1: City and Chris Paul seemingly couldn't get along with teammates

1891
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 1: or they bumped heads, but he was great with Shaye

1892
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:43,679
Speaker 1: Gilgers Alexander because there's a hierarchy. Hey, you're the older

1893
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 1: guy who was teaching me, and I'm younger and I'm

1894
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 1: here to listen to what you have to give me

1895
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 1: and the knowledge that you have to impart. So you know,

1896
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 1: the stage was set there and I think you're seeing

1897
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 1: that same type mentality where Kyrie is like, hey, I

1898
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 1: want to get back, and the rest of the guys

1899
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 1: are like, hey, we want to get there for the

1900
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 1: first time. We want to see what it's like, So

1901
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 1: that's really what we're seeing at the end of the

1902
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,919
Speaker 1: day here, and that's why, you know, in my opinion,

1903
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 1: it's been able to work. And another thing too, when

1904
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:18,639
Speaker 1: I spoke to everybody at Dallas and their front office execs,

1905
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 1: and everybody had the same thing to say. We embrace Kyrie.

1906
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:25,639
Speaker 1: We're happy he's here. And when I spoke to Kyrie,

1907
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:28,760
Speaker 1: he's nothing about him, just just being welcome to the

1908
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:32,480
Speaker 1: organization and he's fully embraced all of that. So that's

1909
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 1: a large part about why they're working there and everything

1910
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 1: is fitting so well in Dallas.

1911
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, we watch in the attempts to make super teams.

1912
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 2: For lack of a better term, I'm waiting to coin

1913
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:49,760
Speaker 2: that maybe I'll find one in my sleep that'll be

1914
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:52,880
Speaker 2: better than it. But when we team up superstars, and

1915
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 2: then the expectation is that they're going to run rough

1916
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 2: shot as opposed to egos injuries, because oftentimes they're guys

1917
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 2: in the second or third of their careers too. Ryan, right, Kyrie,

1918
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 2: we had the run with Lebron and I'm sure there'll

1919
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 2: be plenty more books written about those couple of years

1920
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:12,599
Speaker 2: to fall out and certainly a lot of speculation as

1921
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 2: to how that that breakup initially occurred, and to his

1922
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 2: to his part, Kyrie said, hey, you know what, I

1923
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 2: had my part in it for sure, and it takes time,

1924
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 2: takes some healing, takes some time to get away in

1925
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 2: perspective and all but go all the way through these

1926
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:32,720
Speaker 2: these different iterations and it's it's not so easy. Right

1927
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 2: at one point you basically said, we don't need a coach,

1928
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 2: you still need someone to be an overseer, even if

1929
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 2: Steve Nash has a Hall of Fame resume and a

1930
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:45,599
Speaker 2: couple of MVPs on the docket, that it's not quite

1931
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 2: so simple. And then availability on a night to night

1932
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 2: basis and trying to get things together has been a

1933
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 2: difficult point now with this squad. Who knows what it

1934
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 2: would have looked like had they not made the trade

1935
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 2: that they did the deadline, but they still ended up

1936
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 2: a five seed, like they're an uncharted waters as a

1937
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 2: five seed even going into this series against the Celtics.

1938
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:13,719
Speaker 2: So for Kyrie, I just thought the you're a villain

1939
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:16,600
Speaker 2: in you know, everybody's a villain in someone's eyes was

1940
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 2: just too good a movie quote to not use here

1941
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 2: on a big Sunday morning. But the Kyrie discussion, to me,

1942
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 2: has just been fascinating. You know, the last couple of months, right,

1943
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 2: you know, we talked about Jalen Bronson a little bit

1944
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 2: earlier in his quotes, but he was also a guy.

1945
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:33,680
Speaker 2: I remember he signed that deal with the Knicks, and

1946
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 2: how many people did everything they could to take the

1947
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 2: verbal pinata to him and to the Knicks for the deal,

1948
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 2: and everybody backtracked halfway through the season. Wow, he's underpaid,

1949
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 2: and this and that and the other, and look at

1950
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 2: what a great signing this was, which never happens in

1951
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 2: our business. And with Kyrie, it feels like the last

1952
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 2: couple of weeks there's been a lot of that on

1953
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 2: the heels of the Brunson thing. Like, I don't know

1954
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:01,759
Speaker 2: if folks are just kind of reing. Hey, I said

1955
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 2: some things because they were great in our pre show

1956
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 2: meeting that I should have. But suddenly there seems to

1957
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 2: be a lot of busses backing up and I hear

1958
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,920
Speaker 2: the beeps as related to Kyrie, irving.

1959
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 1: How about this, they don't talk about this? How about Nike? Yeah, Nike,

1960
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:22,040
Speaker 1: Nike pulled Kyrie's sponsorship and went and gave the bag

1961
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 1: to Jahn Morant. How'd that play out? And obviously Josh's

1962
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 1: story isn't told, but you know, it was pretty much

1963
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 1: kind of for you know that I would assume, I

1964
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 1: don't know, this is my assumption. You know, Hey, they

1965
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 1: didn't agree with some of the comments he made or

1966
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 1: that he was a little flagrant in dammarrt coats on

1967
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 1: a terror man.

1968
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:45,400
Speaker 2: You know, so a couple of guns situations for those

1969
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:48,720
Speaker 2: that may have missed the Ja Morant backstory to.

1970
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 1: Just that's you know, it's it's it's a part of

1971
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 1: sports though, you know, it's a.

1972
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:55,719
Speaker 3: Part of sorts where you.

1973
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 1: You know, in business where you have to project, you

1974
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 1: don't know you're projecting and you're assuming, but you know,

1975
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 1: Kyrie's kind of I don't want to see sticking it

1976
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 1: to everybody because I don't think there's mindset. But you're right,

1977
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 1: like a lot of people, there's some of that projected. Yeah,

1978
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, yeah. A lot of those projections are

1979
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 1: ending up being wrong and you're you're seeing it. So

1980
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm happy for Kyrie.

1981
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 3: Man.

1982
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:21,280
Speaker 1: He's a you know, he's a good guy and you

1983
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 1: know I had him as a rookie and you know,

1984
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:25,679
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just glad to see he's happy again.

1985
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:28,720
Speaker 1: And make no mistake, man like Kyrie brought a lot

1986
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 1: of that on his own, you know.

1987
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 2: But that's your thing, right, you have to wear it,

1988
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 2: and then you have the opportunity to maybe get that

1989
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 2: second chance. Now the shoe deal man going from him

1990
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,800
Speaker 2: to Jaw, and Jaw was on the comeback and then

1991
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 2: he got hurt, right, you know, reclamation projects. But you're

1992
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 2: selling yourself the old office space things in those moments, Ryan,

1993
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 2: is this good from the company?

1994
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 1: Right?

1995
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 2: Is this good for the company and what we're trying

1996
01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 2: to do. And if you get enough loud voices telling

1997
01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 2: you their association hinders development here, here, and here, you

1998
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 2: might make a decision a little quicker than you would otherwise.

1999
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, you're you're don't.

2000
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 2: Because you don't have quarters in a publicly traded company

2001
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 2: to wait out to see how people respond long term.

2002
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and but again for you know, for Kyrie,

2003
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 1: the biggest thing that I see is that he's happy now.

2004
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 1: He has a huge opportunity. You know, he's being you know,

2005
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 1: he's being embraced, he's being taken care of, and you

2006
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 1: know that that that's what it's important, and I think,

2007
01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:39,600
Speaker 1: you know, he recognizes probably the extra curricular stuff he

2008
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 1: didn't need, you know, he didn't have to have it,

2009
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 1: and you know, guys are accountable for themselves, you know.

2010
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 1: But for Kyrie, he's such an incredible talent, and you know,

2011
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: when I played with a man, everything just came so

2012
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 1: easy to him. But at this point he's saying, like, nah,

2013
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm not taking the game for granted. It's not just

2014
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion and you're just saying some amazing basketball

2015
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 1: from himself. But I mean, look, I play with Ray Allen.

2016
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 1: He can shoot like Ray Allen. I think he has

2017
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 1: arguably the greatest handle in history. I go him, He

2018
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:14,800
Speaker 1: Jamal Crawford, you know, put those guys on the Mount

2019
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 1: Rushmore of handles, and it's almost like there's just nothing

2020
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 1: that he can't do on the floor. But right now

2021
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 1: he's saying, you know what, I'm not taking any of

2022
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 1: those things for granted. And it's honestly, it's fun to

2023
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 1: watch because there's moments, Mike, and I know I've heard

2024
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 1: this from you man, he just he's just makes magic

2025
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:31,680
Speaker 1: happen on.

2026
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 2: The That's it, like from a basketball standpoint, that's The

2027
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 2: hard part is that our job has to you know,

2028
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:41,679
Speaker 2: you take the totality of it right, because you can't

2029
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 2: ignore the off the court right, or off the field

2030
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 2: or where whatever the baseball diamond, the pitch and everything

2031
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 2: else comes in. But it doesn't still cloud your appreciation

2032
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 2: of what the player is right, because it's it's again,

2033
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 2: he hasn't gotten himself in some of the trouble that

2034
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 2: we've seen from some of the most exalted sports figures

2035
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:07,880
Speaker 2: in the world by any strategy imagination, you know what

2036
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 2: I mean. But you can still appreciate, even in their falls,

2037
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 2: the greatness of the athletes they were. And for Kyrie,

2038
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,599
Speaker 2: while there's some things you disagree with and you can

2039
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:23,719
Speaker 2: have those discussion points, and he certainly has to deal

2040
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:27,799
Speaker 2: with the ramifications. Watching him on the court has always

2041
01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:31,839
Speaker 2: been that way. It's like, give me that guy running

2042
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 2: an offense over anything else. And now that with this

2043
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:40,920
Speaker 2: reconfigured Mavericks team, you've got defensive efforts from him and

2044
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 2: Luca with some regularity. It's crazy. It's crazy how that

2045
01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 2: all works together.

2046
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:49,719
Speaker 13: Ryan Hollins, Oh, I've seen Kyrie diving on the floor

2047
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 13: for loose balls like he's all in and then you know,

2048
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 13: one of the big shifts in the season is that

2049
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 13: he was like, hey, guys, you know, like we got

2050
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:03,679
Speaker 13: to be better on defense. So you know he's putting

2051
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 13: money where his mouth is on that side, and you

2052
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 13: know it's fun and like I like to me in

2053
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 13: that last series, you really saw the Minnesota series, like

2054
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 13: Dallas was like whoa there, They just like emerged, they peaked,

2055
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 13: and the goal is always the peak at that time

2056
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 13: of year where you're like, Noah, they're the best team

2057
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 13: in basketball.

2058
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 3: Right, They're the best team in basketball. Like we could

2059
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 3: see it all.

2060
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 2: Right, Ryan, And in about ten minutes we'll get predictions

2061
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 2: for the for the fight. But I want to go

2062
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:36,720
Speaker 2: back because we got some updated news from yesterday's had

2063
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:39,759
Speaker 2: never really turned into a melee, some shoving, some pushing,

2064
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:42,559
Speaker 2: and the great quote that could have been issued by

2065
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 2: anybody entering a bar last night quote I feel like

2066
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 2: I'm getting hammered. That was Caitlin Clark and discussing the

2067
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 2: play of the sky and what she's gone through for

2068
01:48:56,240 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 2: ten games in the WNBA. WNBA has up upgraded Kennedy

2069
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 2: Carter's fall to a flagrant one from yesterday's game for

2070
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 2: the out of bounds play and the shove at the

2071
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 2: end of the third quarter, and Angel Reese was fined

2072
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 2: one thousand dollars for not being available to the media.

2073
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 1: It's a lot of money. I mean goodness, thousand dollars.

2074
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to lose, no thousand dollars.

2075
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 2: But it goes back to that Draymond conversation we had

2076
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 2: a week ago. Right, we'll start talking about fines and stuff.

2077
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 1: She's a big personality, do you know you gotta you

2078
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 1: gotta find out how to temper your emotions, now man,

2079
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,639
Speaker 1: too much as given, much as expected. So they they

2080
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:39,599
Speaker 1: the ladies at the hold their own now man, they're

2081
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 1: getting Uh, that's a part of it, man. And shoot,

2082
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 1: just asked Lebron James. Man, you use you sneeze and

2083
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 1: the wrong way, and there's the problems with that too.

2084
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sky got fined five k for failed compliance with

2085
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:56,960
Speaker 2: w NBA media policies. And I think that's a great

2086
01:49:56,960 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 2: summary statement on all of it there, Ryan, You know

2087
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 2: the Spider Man, with great power comes great responsibility. The

2088
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:05,679
Speaker 2: eyeballs are there and people are watching in a much

2089
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:07,600
Speaker 2: different way, which means every play is going to be

2090
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:11,799
Speaker 2: scrutinized and just because you haven't been at the party before,

2091
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:14,880
Speaker 2: you're at the party now, and what you're watching now

2092
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:17,639
Speaker 2: doesn't mean the other stuff isn't important, and the history

2093
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:20,640
Speaker 2: isn't important, And all of those great players been celebrating

2094
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 2: them for years. Smith and I have watched a lot

2095
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 2: of games, talk to a lot of the women's best

2096
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:29,720
Speaker 2: at the end of college basketball seasons. But the uh

2097
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 2: with the spotlight on every play gets magnified, and certainly

2098
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 2: everybody trying to cash in is going to have their

2099
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 2: say as well. He's Ryan Hollins. I'll buy Carmen. All right,

2100
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 2: We got a football story about a basketball player in

2101
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 2: about five minutes, and our predictions for the finals. But first,

2102
01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 2: it's our guy, Isaac Lowenkron, still in a daze over

2103
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:56,879
Speaker 2: his disco and black light baseball.

2104
01:50:56,920 --> 01:51:00,439
Speaker 7: Mostly the black light the disco I can live with,

2105
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 7: In fact, I can groove with.

2106
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the black light in the office showing? What

2107
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 1: are you seeing on those walls?

2108
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 3: Buddy?

2109
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:08,640
Speaker 9: You you don't want to know.

2110
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:12,000
Speaker 2: But A well, there's a lot of infighting in the

2111
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:13,639
Speaker 2: h at the news desk.

2112
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:16,799
Speaker 9: Oh gosh, is that what we're calling it now? Anyway?

2113
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:22,520
Speaker 2: I don't know Sunday morning. I went for the clean version.

2114
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 9: For those people who are uninitiated.

2115
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 7: A collegiate summer league team played a glow in the

2116
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:36,880
Speaker 7: dark game last night under literal black light. The entire

2117
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:39,439
Speaker 7: field was covered in black light. They were wearing glowing

2118
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:42,920
Speaker 7: the dark uniforms, glowing the dark fluorescent uniforms and a

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Speaker 7: glow in the dark baseball. And when you introduce a

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Speaker 7: topic like that to sports talk radio, mischievous if that's

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Speaker 7: even a word. Mischievous now.

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Speaker 2: Mischievoussity.

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Speaker 9: No mischievous sniss.

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Speaker 7: By the Florida Panthers because in Game six of the

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Speaker 7: NHL's Eastern Conference Finals on Saturday night, they led the

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Speaker 7: New York Rangers two to one, and the final seconds

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Speaker 7: here was Doug Plagans on w QAM.

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Speaker 11: The final seconds took away and the Florida Panthers are

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Speaker 11: going to.

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Speaker 1: The Stanley Cup Final.

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Speaker 11: The Panthers are Eastern Conference champions for the second straight year.

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Speaker 11: The Panthers take Game six over the Rangers two won

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Speaker 11: the final. The Panthers are moving on.

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Speaker 1: Four big fights out of the apple and it is finish.

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Speaker 7: Huh interesting The bite of the apple part at the

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Speaker 7: end kind of threw me let anyway a little extra.

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Speaker 7: I guess the Panthers will face either the Edmonton Orders

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Speaker 7: or the Dallas Stars for the Stanley Cup.

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Speaker 9: Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 7: Saturday night, Aaron Judge did it again, his major League

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Speaker 7: leading twenty first home run, this one measuring four hundred

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Speaker 7: and sixty four feet as his Yankees won at San

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Speaker 7: Francisco to three in LAS, the Dodgers beating the Colorado

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Speaker 7: Rockies four to one. At Wrigley, the Cubs beat the

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Speaker 7: Cincinnati Read seven of five thanks to Dansby Swanson's go ahead,

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Speaker 7: two run home run in the bottom of the eighth inning,

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Speaker 7: on the same day that his wife, Mallory Swanson scored

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Speaker 7: two goals for the US national women's soccer team at

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Speaker 7: a four nothing victory over South Korea. Quite a Saturday

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Speaker 7: for the Swanson household and the Philadelphia Phillies to beat

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01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 7: at the Saint Louis Cardinals six to one. Bryce harper

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Speaker 7: Is fourteenth home run of the season. The Phillies have

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Speaker 7: the best record in the majors at forty one and

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Speaker 7: eighteen and are averaging nearly six runs per game.

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Speaker 9: Mike and Ryan, all yours.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Ilo, and because it was such a busy

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Speaker 2: day running around. They went home and had some Swanson frozen.

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Speaker 9: Me very good.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. He's Isaac Hello and Crown at

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Speaker 2: Isaac Logo on Where you find him. Find Ryan at

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Speaker 2: the Ryan Hollins by me over at Swollen Dome. Thoroughbrant

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Speaker 2: of visit Safety runs First dot Com. That Safety Runs

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Speaker 2: First dot Com. Fun stat that popped up after the

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Speaker 2: Panthers win. That and so much more as we continue

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Sunday, Hey, welcome back in It's

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Mike Harvin alongside Ryan Hollins.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate y'all hanging out with us. However long you've been

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Speaker 2: with us this morning. It's been a fun ride. Podcast

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Speaker 2: will go up in about ten minutes time from now.

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Speaker 2: Our guy Ian working on it. Our executive producer Chris

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Speaker 2: Burffett on the ones and twos are technical producer making

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Speaker 2: this sound so good. Of course, Isaac Glowencrown at the

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Speaker 2: News desk. You can follow Ryan on Twitter at the

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins, follow me over at Swollen Dome. As you

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Speaker 2: go on the highways and byways of life, take us

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Speaker 2: with you on the iHeartRadio app as well, and mentioned

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Speaker 2: a stat that popped up after the Panthers beat the

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Speaker 2: Range I think you'll enjoy this one rhyme. It's now

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Speaker 2: one hundred combined seasons for New York New Jersey teams

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Speaker 2: without a title. Oh wow, So you got the Knicks

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Speaker 2: go all the way back to seventy three, the Mets,

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Speaker 2: the Yankees, the Jets, the Giants, the Rangers, and the Islanders.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about a long time Giants with the last

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Speaker 2: title out of all of them going in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. There's your random trivia question to

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Speaker 2: take to a bar. I will put that answer up

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Speaker 2: on the Twitter site so you can carry it with

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Speaker 2: you a little bit later on. Let's get to another story.

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Speaker 2: Remember a couple of weeks ago, we had the basketball

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Speaker 2: versus football players and everybody fighting. I could go do

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01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 2: your sport, you could go do mine, and we get

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Speaker 2: and parse that all out. How about we forgot to

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Speaker 2: include football? As Dennis Shrewder decided in his offseason training

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Speaker 2: he went to a sixth division Landesliga Brownschwing in the

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Speaker 2: German league to play some soccer yesterday. Do you ever

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01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 2: think about that? He played sixty three minutes as a

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Speaker 2: left winger. They lost five to one.

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Speaker 1: That's great conditioning though, how about that though?

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01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 2: You want to get it back into shape.

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Speaker 3: Did he get paid and he just played for free?

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. Evidently he's going to play again

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Speaker 2: on Sunday, so he's part of the league.

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Speaker 7: Now, I'm going to imagine, given that as the name

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Speaker 7: of a soccer league, I've never heard of that. If

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Speaker 7: he's getting paid, that's a miracle. If he's getting paid

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Speaker 7: a lot, that's even that's even more of a miracle.

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Speaker 2: Maybe even paid to play. Just decided this is something

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Speaker 2: I gotta do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a good point though, Chris. But some good video

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Speaker 2: coming out of it, though, I mean, which which is

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Speaker 2: entertaining to me. It's kind of like some of the

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Speaker 2: film that we get on prospects coming to the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm in with it. I like it.

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01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:57,600
Speaker 2: Thank you want to go run a few minutes? We

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01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 2: can get you, especially on set pieces. You could be

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Speaker 2: a force.

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Speaker 1: Fun, fun story. I was close to playing some semi pro.

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Speaker 2: Football, semi pro football football, American football, not.

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Speaker 1: Full yeah yeah, oh well yeah, definitely American football.

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Speaker 2: But it was in Italy, in Italy, so all right,

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Speaker 2: explain this one. Now, let's go.

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Speaker 1: This would have been a bucket list type of deal.

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Speaker 1: And I had done it to say I played in

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Speaker 1: the pro football game semi No, they get paid. I

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Speaker 1: guess the long story short, I'm on the you know,

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01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:34,680
Speaker 1: me and the family after the season in Italy. We

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Speaker 1: are going around and you know, you know, while you're there,

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Speaker 1: it's like, hey, you don't have to go back right

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Speaker 1: after the season. You have a certain date where you're

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Speaker 1: kind of there. And I was like, hey, we're going

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Speaker 1: to go around Europe, go around Europe and go like

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Speaker 1: see everything, right, go around Italy. And while we're on

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Speaker 1: and you get on the train, you kind of go everywhere.

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Speaker 1: And we're on the the train and there are these

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Speaker 1: you know bros, two bros on the train. Yeah, We're like,

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Speaker 1: what are you guys doing here there? I mean they're

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Speaker 1: like passed out, they're like I mean, they're living out

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Speaker 1: of a backpack. They are having the best time of

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Speaker 1: their life, and you know, we kind of get to

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Speaker 1: we get to talking and they're there with their boy

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Speaker 1: that plays in Italian Football League. Found Italian Football and

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01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:26,040
Speaker 1: they're allowed a certain the number of American and I'm like, well, hey,

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Speaker 1: I happen to be here on a visa, so maybe

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Speaker 1: I'll count as a you know, an Italian.

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Speaker 3: I live here, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I'll play in the game, and

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01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 1: they're like, no kidding. And it came down to the

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01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:41,880
Speaker 1: fact that they couldn't find any size seventeens.

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Speaker 3: But I was going to play in.

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Speaker 1: This football game to say that I played pro football.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, this is my eleventh year, my first

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Speaker 1: year out of the NBA, one year overseas. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: why not you live once fantastic, But I couldn't get cleats.

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Speaker 7: There is an Italian Football League and it's been around

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Speaker 7: since the seventies. You could have stumbled into that. I

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Speaker 7: think that just they just held the Italian ble here

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Speaker 7: in the United States, in my hometown of Toledo, Ohio.

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Speaker 2: As well.

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Speaker 3: There you go. I was.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to be a wide receiver tight end

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Speaker 1: in the league.

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Speaker 2: Oh I gotta dig this. Yeah, I was gonna do

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01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 2: it sliding doors scenario. Yeah, but the shoes just throw.

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Speaker 9: It up higher than anyone else, right.

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Speaker 2: Talking about it a couple of weeks ago, we just

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Speaker 2: make you a red zone receiver.

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Speaker 1: I guess their buddy was like a six to seven quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And I was just like, I'm in I'm going from

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Speaker 1: flag football to tackle and they're like, these are you Listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm not scrutinizing the lead, but they were like, you know,

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Speaker 1: these are you know, a bunch of you know, out

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Speaker 1: of shape Italian guys.

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Speaker 3: So you should be able to go and hold your

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Speaker 3: own in the league.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, all right, I'm in seed better conditioning. Yeah,

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01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 2: and then you'd celebrate with a beer. Hey, Mavericks and Celtics.

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01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:55,480
Speaker 2: Who's winning.

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Speaker 1: We're going Mavericks. I think Mavericks are firing on all cylinders.

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Speaker 1: The factor is that they play team basketball, and the

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Speaker 1: thing is when it's bad, it's bad for the Celtics.

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Speaker 2: I got the MAVs in six as well. We'll see

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Speaker 2: what Dan Buyer and Kerry Rhodes have to say. They're

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Speaker 2: coming up next here on Fox Sports Radio.