Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bucko Territory,
Speaker 1: presented to you by the Foul Territory Network. I'm Noah Hyles,
Speaker 1: joining me as always are my co hosts Platinum Kaka
Speaker 1: Mark and Josh Harrison. Is Thursday, August sixth we were
Speaker 1: recording this before the Pirates concluded their four game set
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, a little afternoon show due to some evening
Speaker 1: obligations among the crew. So we don't know how that
Speaker 1: series concluded, so we to our latest knowledge, and I
Speaker 1: would have to assume this is probably going to be
Speaker 1: still the big storyline from this series is Paul Skens
Speaker 1: just didn't get it done again. Pirates at Best are
Speaker 1: gonna leave Milwaukee with a split, gonna leave Milwaukee under
Speaker 1: five hundred. There's a chance they leave Milwaukee with the
Speaker 1: lowest record, the worst winning percentage they've had pretty much
Speaker 1: all season. So and even if they don't, they're still
Speaker 1: under five hundred as they leave Milwaukee back to Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: for weekend series. We're going to talk about that weekend
Speaker 1: series at the end of the show. First, we're also
Speaker 1: going to have to talk about the offensive woes. But guys,
Speaker 1: it all starts with Paul Skins. He pitched Wednesday evening.
Speaker 1: He went five innings, He allowed three earned runs. Walks
Speaker 1: for another issue again, efficiency was an issue Again, can't
Speaker 1: get deeper into the ballgame. I'll just open up the
Speaker 1: floor now, because we've talked about so frequently this guy struggles,
Speaker 1: what we need to see him do, what we haven't
Speaker 1: seen him do. I'll just open up the floor with
Speaker 1: this question and that can kind of just serve as
Speaker 1: the talking point for the segment. What are the expectations
Speaker 1: for Paul Skiings for the rest of this season? Is
Speaker 1: it just what we just saw? Is it five to
Speaker 1: six innings and keeping it under four runs, because that's
Speaker 1: what I feel like is probably the new bar for him,
Speaker 1: at least this year, going off his overall body of work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll start. I don't think much is going to
Speaker 2: change the rest of the year. I don't think there's
Speaker 2: gonna be some magical thing where he just reverts right
Speaker 2: back to where we saw in his Cy Young campaign
Speaker 2: or his Rookie of the Year campaign. Something seems off,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't seem like that something can be addressed
Speaker 2: mid season. It doesn't feel like that's gonna be like
Speaker 2: some quick little mechanical change, Like, no, he's gonna have
Speaker 2: to take some time this offseason and really figure out
Speaker 2: mechanics whatever is happening. Uh, that's having this impact on
Speaker 2: his velocity because I am concerned about the velocity. I'm
Speaker 2: not concerned about the fastball itself. I'm concerned how it
Speaker 2: plays with the rest of his repertoire and the off
Speaker 2: speed stuff. Just can't stomach it without it's not good
Speaker 2: enough without that fastball philosophy. Go ahead, No, well, I.
Speaker 1: Was just gonna say he can't spot it. It's not
Speaker 1: even the velocity. You look at this last outing. If
Speaker 1: the second time through the order, he was always able
Speaker 1: to put that slider, that sweeper, the splinker, even like
Speaker 1: right on the black, right on the edge, and he's
Speaker 1: just off. He's just missing the spots by two or
Speaker 1: three inches. And that that makes a big difference, man,
Speaker 1: especially when you're going up against a team like the
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers, who they have a great team approach, they
Speaker 1: are not going to help you beat them. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what we saw this last outing, And that's
Speaker 1: kind of my biggest alarm for schemes is back to
Speaker 1: back outings with four walks. That's just that's the major
Speaker 1: concern because that just shows that his command's off and
Speaker 1: it also just shows that hitters are very comfortable at
Speaker 1: the plate right now. They're not chasing exactly.
Speaker 3: Well, obviously there's always you know, you look at what
Speaker 3: scheme has done in the past, and you always hope,
Speaker 3: oh man, it's in there somewhere, But as you look
Speaker 3: the moves, they may at the you know, deadline. You know,
Speaker 3: you have a bullpen that is built to kind of
Speaker 3: help you. So you know, you're hoping that you can
Speaker 3: get six from your starters, and that's even including Paul.
Speaker 3: And you know, more than just the velocity is you
Speaker 3: talk to command and to me that that that's a
Speaker 3: you know, there's a disconnect somewhere because you know you're
Speaker 3: losing velocity and then you're losing command. With that, does
Speaker 3: confidence go granted, he you know, I believe Paul is
Speaker 3: a highly confident guy and don't believe that he would
Speaker 3: even waiver from that. But you know, this game tests you,
Speaker 3: this game will humble you, and in the mode or
Speaker 3: mists of you know, making adjustments, sometimes you're gonna go
Speaker 3: through struggles that you know, it's just like, Yeah, day
Speaker 3: to day, I'm grinding through this. You know, as you
Speaker 3: mentioned Mark, maybe it's something in the offseason. He's gonna
Speaker 3: you know, what, where was my disconnect? Was it you know,
Speaker 3: in conditioning? Probably not? Was it in you know this?
Speaker 3: Or you know, sometimes it's your trying to focus on
Speaker 3: one thing right now may not be the best for him.
Speaker 3: He's trying to figure out how he can get through
Speaker 3: six and you know, when when you've lost command, you know,
Speaker 3: four walks, that's I mean, you're you're you're you're putting
Speaker 3: guys on and putting yourself in high stress situations to
Speaker 3: now I have to make this perfect pitch. And when
Speaker 3: you don't have your command and you don't have your
Speaker 3: best stuff, your best pitch is not really going to
Speaker 3: be there. You're gonna make mistakes. And you know, when
Speaker 3: you're making mistakes, these are big league hitters, they're going
Speaker 3: to take advantage of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just seems like he's in a funk right
Speaker 1: now that he can't escape and the opposition knows it.
Speaker 1: And I think that that predicament is applicable to another
Speaker 1: area of the team that we're going to talk.
Speaker 3: Well, and before we get there, you mentioned that every
Speaker 3: team that he's facing too is like, we're not going
Speaker 3: to be the team that lets him turn it around.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And that Yeah, and again
Speaker 1: just to continue being the best transition podcast in game
Speaker 1: right now. I think that that also applies to the
Speaker 1: next topic we're going to talk about what the offensive was.
Speaker 1: It seems like they are in their own heads and
Speaker 1: they know that they are. They're getting targeted in one area,
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about that next after this
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Speaker 1: All right. Offensive woes. The Pirates they stink against left
Speaker 1: handed pitching, and boy, oh boy, did they really stink
Speaker 1: up the joint yesterday eight strikeouts in a row against
Speaker 1: the Brewers starter. His name, yeah, Kyle hand not related,
Speaker 1: believe it or not. Josh, that was a hell of
Speaker 1: a line there, Josh, well done. I just want to
Speaker 1: make some observations and then I'll throw it to you guys.
Speaker 1: The left handed issue, it's just not going away. One
Speaker 1: thing that we should note, Ozuna was let go before
Speaker 1: Wednesday's game. That was the guy they brought in to
Speaker 1: be their right handed power bat. It obviously didn't work
Speaker 1: because they felt more confident with Ronnie Simon on the
Speaker 1: roster than him, and I know they're they're gonna get
Speaker 1: O'Neil Cruz back eventually this month. They'll get Connor Griffin
Speaker 1: back next month. But it's like those two guys can't
Speaker 1: fix all of this, especially one of them who's a
Speaker 1: left handed bat. And Ezmraln Valdez looks like a rookie again,
Speaker 1: and it just goes to show like Ozona didn't work
Speaker 1: your rookies. Magic hun unintended has cooled off a little bit,
Speaker 1: and now other guys got to step up, and there's
Speaker 1: just there's just no answer there. They look helpless, and
Speaker 1: they look like a team who knows when a lefty
Speaker 1: is on the mound that they are in trouble. You
Speaker 1: could just you can kind of get that energy, and
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously that weighs on you when you have
Speaker 1: that one specific guy or one specific type of pitcher
Speaker 1: or player that does that thing. It's like when you know, hey,
Speaker 1: this is our one Achilles heel. It's hard to get
Speaker 1: that out of your head, especially when it starts going
Speaker 1: early again in the game. You guys start chasing, guys
Speaker 1: start pressing. Josh, can you just talk a little bit
Speaker 1: more about that. I don't know if you've ever been
Speaker 1: on a team that's been this bad specifically at one
Speaker 1: element of hitting collectively, but that stuff weighs on you
Speaker 1: mentally and probably makes it worse.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, it definitely can, especially as a whole. You know,
Speaker 3: just to go off of the previous segment, you mentioned schemes,
Speaker 3: and it's more than schemes. You know, starting staff on
Speaker 3: a team as a whole has been struggling, and then
Speaker 3: you know, you face with, oh, here we go, we're
Speaker 3: facing the lefty. You know, this is quote unquote what
Speaker 3: they say we struggle with. Now you're trying not to
Speaker 3: feed into, you know that that storyline. You know, so
Speaker 3: some of these at bats may be okay, all right,
Speaker 3: he got three strikeouts in a row, right, I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to be the fourth right now, I'm not trying
Speaker 3: to be the fifth. Now this guy's got eight in
Speaker 3: a row. And it's like, hey, before you know it,
Speaker 3: did you go up there with a plan or were
Speaker 3: you just up saying I you know, we don't want
Speaker 3: to you know what I mean. That's how fast this
Speaker 3: game can happen. And it's just one of those things
Speaker 3: where teams are they really having you know, hitters meetings
Speaker 3: to where they're talking about a planned or is it
Speaker 3: you know, I've been on teams that have hitters meeting collectively.
Speaker 3: Now you have a lot of information where now they'll
Speaker 3: send it to your iPad and you know, guys, yes,
Speaker 3: you can do your own independent, you know, homework. But
Speaker 3: I believe that's guys that you know would have been
Speaker 3: in my case, you know ten plus years that understand
Speaker 3: the grind, understand adjustments. You know you can. You could
Speaker 3: send a guy in my situation a scout and report
Speaker 3: in the video and I can, you know, make my own.
Speaker 3: But if you got a bunch of young guys, you
Speaker 3: can't just rely on this information because talking is information.
Speaker 3: You need guys that have faced them. You need to also, hey, man,
Speaker 3: as a group, how are we approaching this guy? You know,
Speaker 3: it's fine to say this guy has high spin rate
Speaker 3: and this is what. But but as a whole, what
Speaker 3: are we doing as a team. Are we trying to
Speaker 3: make these bats tough? Or are we trying to work
Speaker 3: his pitch calendar? Or are we saying, hey, this guy's
Speaker 3: aggressive in the zoone. Let's all say we're trying to
Speaker 3: hit fastballs and get on top of them and drive
Speaker 3: them back through the middle. These are the conversations that
Speaker 3: need to be had, and I'm not really sure if
Speaker 3: they're being had. Now over, we're struggling against lefties, all right,
Speaker 3: this guy's hogh spin rate. All right, Hey, let's that's
Speaker 3: not doing anything but making you go up there, press
Speaker 3: and trying to just try harder. You know, the game
Speaker 3: doesn't need you to try harder. Trying harder, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. And in this moment where offense is struggling,
Speaker 3: that's what you see is a lot of guys trying harder.
Speaker 3: So then you start to chase pitches. Then you start
Speaker 3: to doing the care Oh now we got to go
Speaker 3: on second base, all right, things about the turn and
Speaker 3: now you're trying to beat No, let the game be
Speaker 3: the game, and you know, stick to the plan that
Speaker 3: y'all talked about. Okay, high heater, let me make sure
Speaker 3: I see this below the belt, you know, No, let
Speaker 3: me get it. And that's where these things happen really fast,
Speaker 3: and before you know it, it's down respiral and before
Speaker 3: you know, you haven't had a real conversation about how
Speaker 3: to attack this guy. All you know is what this
Speaker 3: guy has.
Speaker 1: Mark, I'll ask you just real quick. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: mister optimist. Do you have any hope that this gets
Speaker 1: resolved with the group that is or is it just
Speaker 1: something where they're gonna have to make a waiver claim
Speaker 1: or get some external help.
Speaker 2: Still, yeah, I mean as far as left handed pitching goes,
Speaker 2: it seems like they're going to just continue to struggle,
Speaker 2: especially with teams now just pitching around Esmelan Valdez not
Speaker 2: even giving him a chance. So, I mean, maybe there's
Speaker 2: a waiverclaim out there where you find a right handed bat,
Speaker 2: but that's gonna be a really tough find. Maybe you
Speaker 2: have a guy like like the like just Hinton Garcia
Speaker 2: that could step up. Look, internally, maybe there's those guys
Speaker 2: that you know, could catch that hot streak that we
Speaker 2: saw Smelan Valdez go on. I don't think anyone that
Speaker 2: was expecting him to go on that, you know, twelve
Speaker 2: hundred ops stretch or whatever. So maybe you'll find that internally,
Speaker 2: maybe like a guy like Ronnie and Simon could get
Speaker 2: for a little bit ride that and fades out. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's uh, I don't think there's going to be much
Speaker 2: improvement against lefties. The one thing I do want to say, though,
Speaker 2: is this offense has just continued to press and press
Speaker 2: and press. We mentioned it just last week. You know,
Speaker 2: they had a ton of strikeouts compared to walks. Again
Speaker 2: now in the last seven days, twenty four strikeouts, sorry,
Speaker 2: seventy two strikeouts to twenty four walks. There's one guy
Speaker 2: on this team who has more than three walks in
Speaker 2: the last seven days, and that's Zmaal and Valdes, that's it.
Speaker 2: And he has eight walks. But you know he's batting
Speaker 2: like zero point fifty striking out. Yeah, so he's basically
Speaker 2: they're walking or striking out and that's it. So yeah,
Speaker 2: the offensive struggles are tough. I think if they get
Speaker 2: a little bit of confidence, you know, hitting is contagious,
Speaker 2: they can We haven't really seen this offense go on
Speaker 2: like a crazy tear. This team go on a crazy tear.
Speaker 2: You gotta feel like that they have one of those
Speaker 2: in their tank this year. Will it be enough? Who knows?
Speaker 2: Will it be against left handed pitching?
Speaker 4: Who knows?
Speaker 2: But round us out here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just to look at it, I mean, it's really
Speaker 1: easy to understand why they can't hit left handed pitching.
Speaker 1: Here are their right handed hitters, Roe Flores, Justinstan Garcia, Valdez.
Speaker 1: Those are three rookies right there, and then their non
Speaker 1: rookies just as far as strict right handed bats are
Speaker 1: Henry Davis, Jared Triolo, and Nick Gonzalez. Of that group,
Speaker 1: only one of those guys has ever really had an
Speaker 1: above average OPS and that's Nick Gonzalez this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you don't have to throw him anything to hit Valdez.
Speaker 1: You don't have to throw him anything to hit I mean,
Speaker 1: Ozuna was a part of that, but he wasn't doing anything.
Speaker 1: So just you look at this lineup. This is like
Speaker 1: a Pirate's twenty nineteen lineup, or not twenty nineteen, excuse me,
Speaker 1: is a Pirates twenty twenty five lineup. That's what that's.
Speaker 1: And when they were a bad offense because when you
Speaker 1: don't have Lao and O'Hearn, I mean, and even Griffin
Speaker 1: around right now, like you don't have the help here
Speaker 1: and you have a lesser version of Mangum Anddi and Reynolds,
Speaker 1: you're just not getting they don't have the horses. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think the only situation that I
Speaker 1: or the only solution that I could offer is maybe
Speaker 1: you just fully commit to small ball against lefties. You
Speaker 1: just make the fastest lineup possible and focus on contact
Speaker 1: and stealing bases and being super aggressive on the bases
Speaker 1: and just try to put as much pressure try to steal,
Speaker 1: like you try to take extra bases, and that might
Speaker 1: be your only hope because I look at these right
Speaker 1: handed bats and there are no answers there.
Speaker 3: That's baseball. Put the ball in play. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, as I mentioned, it's a different era of baseball,
Speaker 3: and you know, you just have that couple with guys
Speaker 3: that haven't had very much success against lefties, so you're
Speaker 3: going up there without a plan and you don't have
Speaker 3: much success. It's it's gonna be tough, but it's it's
Speaker 3: one of those things where as I said, when the
Speaker 3: team is not playing well, offense is gonna press even
Speaker 3: more because that's the one area that guys feel they
Speaker 3: can control. You know, Defense is like, okay, I need
Speaker 3: them to hit me the ball. Pitching is like sometimes
Speaker 3: pitchers are gonna struggle, but offense it's like, okay, this
Speaker 3: is my bat. These are team at bats. We can score.
Speaker 3: And when it's not going. Sometimes the plate feels like
Speaker 3: the the loneliest place because it's like, man, now we
Speaker 3: don't it's been a week and you know, one game.
Speaker 3: We didn't realize one game is just one game. But
Speaker 3: now you look up it's a week later and it's like, yeah, okay, yep.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take another quick break when we
Speaker 1: come back. We wrap up this week's show with Jay
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Speaker 1: Ja Hey, now time here we go plays music, do
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Speaker 3: All right, this is gonna be the second time that
Speaker 3: I danced when it comes on for the Jay Now segment.
Speaker 3: But this segment is gonna be a little different. Just
Speaker 3: I guess now that we're here, I haven't really had
Speaker 3: time to process it, but it's gonna be a highlighting
Speaker 3: this weekend, being able to come back there with my
Speaker 3: family and you know, experience the love that you know,
Speaker 3: the family the city has showed me and my family
Speaker 3: throughout my playing career and even post so I just
Speaker 3: want to highlight the city of Pittsburgh, the organization for
Speaker 3: you know, making this a special moment. As I said,
Speaker 3: I don't think I really have processed it yet. Probably
Speaker 3: will hit me a little bit more as the weekend
Speaker 3: goes on, but that's kind of what I got, you know,
Speaker 3: excited to come back and you know, enjoy this moment
Speaker 3: with my family, uh, some close friends and you know,
Speaker 3: go back to my stomping grounds and you know, close
Speaker 3: the final chapter. I know a lot of guys don't
Speaker 3: get this opportunity and just excited for you know, not
Speaker 3: anything that I thought about or I guess anybody really
Speaker 3: thinks about. So as we get closer, it's kind of
Speaker 3: cool to sit here and say, Okay, man, you know
Speaker 3: it's gonna be pretty cool weekend.
Speaker 1: It is gonna be a cool weekend. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: cool obviously to see you get your flowers. I've already
Speaker 1: went on that spiel. Don't need to go down that
Speaker 1: road again. It's just gonna be cool to see a
Speaker 1: lot of number five jerseys around the ballpark. I've really
Speaker 1: enjoyed how the Pirates have been promoting this. You've seen
Speaker 1: the commercials on the TV broadcast during commercial breaks, the
Speaker 1: highlights they've been posting of yours Josh, and the countdown
Speaker 1: days until Josh Harrison gets recognized. The shirt looks cool.
Speaker 1: One Pirate shirt I will allow myself to wear because
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just supporting a coworker. That's all I'm doing. Ye,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm pretty pumped and Mark, Mark and I
Speaker 1: are going to be there to support you. Mark, you
Speaker 1: got anything you want to add on this?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just so excited. If you're listening to this show, up,
Speaker 2: come say hi. Josh is going to be like signing
Speaker 2: some autographs I think around the park on Saturday. It's
Speaker 2: going to be a great time. The T shirt is
Speaker 2: just so sick. I cannot wait to rock that. And
Speaker 2: I'm just looking forward to seeing my guy Jay hey here,
Speaker 2: so very well deserved love all the fan recognition. Just
Speaker 2: people are excited for this, Josh. I probably see a
Speaker 2: lot more of that just being on Twitter constantly, and
Speaker 2: people are pumped so love that the Pirates are doing this,
Speaker 2: doing it the right way, doing it well. It's going
Speaker 2: to be a fantastic weekend and I can't wait to
Speaker 2: recap it with you guys on Sunday for our episode
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Speaker 2: send us off here or actually yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes, Josh.
Speaker 3: Any final thoughts, no, just hey, that was a smooth transition,
Speaker 3: and excited to see everybody this weekend and hopefully uh
Speaker 3: pirates bring it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I'll just say this in closing, Josh is
Speaker 1: an all time pirate Pirates fan. Fans should celebrate him.
Speaker 1: If he bounces his first pitch him, we will we
Speaker 1: will do him on the show. If he does that,
Speaker 1: we will.
Speaker 2: Bring that clip up as much as I reach it there.
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, you don't talk about you don't brag about
Speaker 1: any of your achievements other than the times you've got
Speaker 1: to pitch.
Speaker 2: You are always itching to bring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that's that's I will put that pressure
Speaker 1: on you. If you bounce it, we will open Monday show.
Speaker 1: What that's booing you for? Like ten seconds. So pressure
Speaker 1: is on, mister Harrison. Let's see if you can rise
Speaker 1: to the challenge. All right, he's bottom, key, he's Josh Harrison.
Speaker 1: He's under pressure. Noah Hiles. We're all signing off saying
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