1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to another episode of the cycle. 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: I am not Ryan Wormley, he abandoned us for football. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: I am like Mayor, and I'm joined by Kelly Kirby. Kelly, 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: how are you doing today? 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: I am doing pretty well and still paying attention to baseball, 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: so that's good. 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: As am. I. Worm has famously abandoned us for football, 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: much like Joey p did on the leading off side 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: of things. But you and I are hardcore baseball fans, 10 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: hardcore baseball truthers, and we are here until the bitter end, 11 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: even though some of our championships are already happening right now, 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: because our league only does half the season. 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: Exactly, which I got knocked out of last week, which 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: you know only stings a lot. 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 3: So it's okay you did. 16 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: For the listeners at home who haven't been following along 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: throughout the season, who we've been kind of complaining about 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: this league just a little bit here and there, especially 19 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: when Kelly's been on the show. We have multiple in 20 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: house leagues at Fantasy Pros, but it's a really short season. 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: We're already in the championship, as I said, and the playoffs. 22 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: It's not like we just got to the playoffs, were 23 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: in the championship. Our playoffs started I think eight weeks ago. 24 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: We were in the playoffs set before the All Star break, 25 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: like actually before the All Star break, like July first. Yeah, 26 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: so Kelly and I were in the championships of the 27 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: two separate leagues. And now I was hoping to face 28 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: Kelly in the championship that league. But now I am 29 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: in the championship against someone else. It's a little touch 30 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: and go how I'm doing. I've been complaining to Kelly 31 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: for the last couple of weeks because we have like 32 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: a limit on transactions for the season, and they didn't 33 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: reset in the playoffs, which I thought they would, and so, 34 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: as I said, the playoffs have been eight weeks and 35 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: I've been sc scratching and clawing and trying to limit 36 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: my transactions because I was really at the limit hitting 37 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: into the playoffs. 38 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: And I offered to loan you or sell you some transactions, 39 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: and no one would let us do that. I was like, 40 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: come on, fifty bucks here, fifty bucks there, let's do this. 41 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: I made a lot of proposals to the commissioner. None 42 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: of them were heard, and so I'm just I actually 43 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: have one transaction left and I have I've been debating, 44 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: like do I use it early in the week, but 45 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: then what happens, you know, if someone gets hurt and 46 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: I just can't replace him. I just had to eat that. 47 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: Jaron Duran suspensions and that was fun. Thank you to 48 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: him for, you know, saying awful things. 49 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: You can always count on a Red Sox to do that, 50 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: can't you? 51 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: Easy? Easy? Okay, Okay, let's jump right into it. You 52 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: sent me something right before the show about something that 53 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball is considering and trying to debate. If 54 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: I should just let you jump in, I guess I'll 55 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: intro it for you. So their news reported we saw 56 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: it on CBS Sports, is that MLB major League Baseball 57 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: is reportedly weighing a six inning requirement for starting pitchers, 58 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: which is just a wild thing to consider based on 59 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: how things have been going the last several years, you know, 60 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: with openers and with really limiting pictures, not letting them 61 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: see a third time through the lineup, sometimes not even 62 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: completing a second time through the lineup, and also with 63 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: younger pictures really limiting their workloads. Requiring a picture to 64 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: go six in is just a wild thing. To even 65 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: consider it. Says in the report that the average I 66 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: saw now I can't find it, but I think the 67 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: average you know, it's right in the subtitle starting pitchers 68 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: are averaging only five in the third innings per appearance 69 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four was actually higher than I expected 70 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: to see. I was thinking it was like three or four. 71 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: I had the same response. 72 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are some some caveat so and the one 73 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: thing they said is like, we are years away from 74 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: doing this. This is not something they're even ready to 75 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: test next year. And there would have to be some 76 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: some pretty strict guidelines here. Like one of the things 77 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: in the report it says it would include exceptions to 78 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: the proposed six sitting minimum that would include throwing one 79 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: hundred pitches, which I think is already too high. There's 80 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: no way they're going to get that that part approved. 81 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: And if they're giving up four more earned runs, which 82 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: also you know, that's fine. I think that one's fine. 83 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: And then getting injured, which my mediate thought was okay, 84 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: like I'll just have my opener go out there throw 85 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: anything and get injured every day. But apparently it's going 86 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: to require an injured list stint to avoid that kind 87 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: of minute. So I just ran through a little bit 88 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: about it. Whyn't you tell me your initial thoughts and 89 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: why do you wanted to talk about it? 90 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: I thought it was super interesting from the idea that 91 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: how many pitcher injuries have we dealt with this year? 92 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: And whether it's up or down, I don't care. 93 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: It just seems like it just person after person is 94 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: you know, it's an elbow, it's a ucl, it's a shoulder, 95 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: and people are trying to figure out, like if the 96 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: pitch clock has anything to do with it, and now 97 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: we're going to be like, you know what, we think 98 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: would be even better if we take it and you 99 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: have to just keep pitching even if your arm falls off. 100 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: And I understand what they're doing, but I also it's 101 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: kind of one of those are we gonna let the 102 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: game evolve or are we not going to let the 103 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: game evolve? And if we're not, then they're gonna have 104 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: to start this young. I mean, we're like through the miners, 105 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: maybe even in college, they're gonna have to really change 106 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: how pitchers come up because right now, you know, yeah, 107 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: they're taught how to throw, and even with the pitch clock, 108 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: it was like they were all adjusting to that, and 109 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: now you're gonna need to stretch out the hundred pitches. 110 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: There's just away the fore and runs. I think it's 111 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: that's the one I would actually, I would say, all right, 112 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: like if your picture is getting shelled, fine, but you 113 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: can't just you know, even then, it's just a weird 114 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 2: it's a weird situation which I don't particularly like. 115 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: So that's my response. 116 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: You're not in favor of it, even the idea. What 117 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: if they change, they adjust some of the settings, would 118 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: you would you be in favor of it? Then? 119 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 2: I've always been in favor of the if you're some 120 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 2: form of like tying the picture to the DH, so 121 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: like if your picture comes out you lose your DH 122 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: before a certain number of innings, Like if you wanted 123 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: to do that, I think that's a fair that would 124 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: be a more interesting strategic way to go about it. 125 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: But you know, knowing that you're facing a starter who's 126 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: going to have to stay in for you know, it's like, okay, cool, 127 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,559 Speaker 2: so offense goes up again because that's all we ever want, 128 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: and even it just it sounds good on paper, but 129 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 2: it's just not the way the game is played at 130 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: this point. 131 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: So, yeah, there's no way, and it's there's a lot, 132 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot to talk about about it, especially you know, 133 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: if you go back to the Moneyball era and how 134 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, the A's and that eventually other teams like 135 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: the Red Sox kind of manipulated you know, on base 136 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: percentage and that kind of stuff, and how the game 137 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: has changed. And now we're seeing more of what the 138 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: Rays are doing. And you know, they kind of you know, 139 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: pieced together this opener idea and just got like their 140 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: best pictures and they're in the best spots and just 141 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: kind of you know, limited damage that way, and they've 142 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: had great success. And now it kind of feels like 143 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: the Big Bully and major League Baseball, which never seems 144 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: to help out the small market teams. Not that they 145 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: always help themselves either, but it's like, hey, you guys 146 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: found this loophole and we are going to close it 147 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: on you. So stop doing that that stuff. Stop trying 148 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: to compete with the Yankees and Red Sox and Founders. 149 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: Go back to being a small market team and just 150 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: take your lumps like everyone else. But I guess like 151 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: the main idea is they want starting pitchers to be 152 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: this more like main character, this superstar face of franchises, 153 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: which they've gotten away from in recent years. Although you 154 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: could argue that Paul's Means is doing just fine as 155 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 1: the face of the Pirates right now coming out of nowhere, 156 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: I think they're years away from even attempting this. Knowing 157 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: how strong the Major League Baseball Players Union is, I 158 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: don't know that there's ever a way they get anything 159 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: remotely close to this past, and they would have to 160 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: have some extreme stipulations. The hundred pitches things. Teams don't 161 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: even want their their pitchers throwing one hundred pitches in 162 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: nine inning games, nonetheless six innings, so there's no way 163 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: that's going to get get passed. And like hundred pitches 164 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: is like the upper limit of what they'll allow. There's 165 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: no way they're going to be like, okay, your arms, 166 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: like your arm is dead at eighty five pitches, just 167 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: give us fifteen more and we can get you out 168 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: of there. 169 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: Exactly. That's everything happen, Yeah, for sure, and not. 170 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: To stay on this for so long, but there is 171 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: a lot to be too discussed about arm injuries too, 172 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: and maybe stop changing the baseball maybe that would also 173 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: help arm injuries and I also, I don't know if 174 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: you read the book The Arm by Jeff Passing. If not, 175 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: I highly recommend their check it out. But I read 176 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: it a couple of years ago, and it talked a 177 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: lot about arm injuries, is specifically Tommy John and also 178 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: comparing American culture to a lot of other cultures, especially 179 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: like Japanese and Korean cultures, and they have wildly different 180 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: philosophies about arm injuries and about training your arms, and 181 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: they basically throw until their arms fall off. And a 182 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: lot of the data shows that there is really no 183 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,119 Speaker 1: difference between how American culture is really protective of picture 184 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: development and how they just pitch pitch pitch In terms 185 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: of like arm injuries, there's really no difference. And so 186 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: there's not even a lot of proof that what we're 187 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,239 Speaker 1: doing kind of works. 188 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And I think, yeah, exactly, And I was 189 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: just the only other thing I was going to add 190 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: was the little note down at the bottom, which there've 191 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: only been twenty three complete games this season, and only 192 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: two pitchers have done it twice, Kevin Gosman and Max Freed. 193 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: Although I think. 194 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: If we'd ask people who those two pictures were, I 195 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: don't think they'd come up with those two. But and 196 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: then they said, like, forty years ago, pictures were basically 197 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: pitching a full inning more than what they are now. 198 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm we can talk about this at nauseum obviously, 199 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: but it's it's an interesting thing, just again to watch 200 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: what they're trying to do and what the goal of 201 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: this is versus all the other goals that they've been 202 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: manipulating for the last four or five years. So yeah, 203 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: I'm interested to see. I think the conversation goes yeah, 204 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: and changing the baseball, which you and I could you 205 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: and I talk about I think twice a week. 206 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: So yeah. I also remember earlier in the year, I 207 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: believe the first two pictures to throw complete games this 208 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: year were Ranger Suarez and Renel Blanca, which is who 209 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: everyone predicted to throw the first two. I just I 210 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: remember that talking about on this show. 211 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: They were high round two picks, right, yeah, exactly. 212 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well Ranger Suarez, as famously declared on this show 213 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: best picture in baseball, So a first round pick next 214 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: year for sure. Yeah, just kidding, please don't do that. 215 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: Oh my godm I'm like, did I deliver that too drily? 216 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: Sorry? 217 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, all right, let's jump into the rest of 218 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: their rundown. We're going to do somewhat different show this week. Obviously, 219 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: we weren't here last week and the week before that 220 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: we were kind of wrapping up some trade deadline stuff. 221 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: But now for pretty much most fantasy leagues, there are 222 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: no trades. We're getting into, you know, either the home 223 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: stretch of some leagues or already getting into the playoffs 224 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: and some other leagues, and so we're going to focus 225 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: more on just kind of rest of season strategies and 226 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: players and interest and in kind of you know, how 227 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: you should should treat certain players and some overall strategy 228 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: and just kind of how you should kind of take 229 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: a week to week. At this point, you know, it's 230 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: a it's you really have to view this as a 231 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: as a shortened season, and so strategy becomes a little 232 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: bit different. You know, a lot of people in your 233 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: leagues maybe have stopped playing attention. But if you're fighting 234 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: for a championship, either in head to head or in 235 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: rodo you know this is a lot of times where 236 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: championships are one and I know I'm in one league 237 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: where the trade deadline is today, we're both in that 238 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: league or it's tonight. I should say I already made 239 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: one trade with Brenda Tuma front of the show, because 240 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: despite the fact that I was in first place in April, 241 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: I've really just been in the middle of the pack 242 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: ever since then, and I've been unable to climb. And 243 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: so it's a keeper league, and so I made a 244 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: trade for next year to get Bryce Harper and gave 245 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: up It sounds ridiculous on the face of it, because 246 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: I required Bryce Harper when I gave up Matt Olson, 247 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: Austin Riley and Alec Burlison. Which if you just if 248 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: it's if this is a redraft league, that's a collusion trade. 249 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: You can't make that trade. But this is a keeper league, 250 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: and there are salaries that attied to those keepers, and 251 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't you know, I could keep Matt Olson and 252 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 1: Austin Riley at cost, but they were fair value. There 253 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: was no real benefit of keeping him at that cost, 254 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: whereas Bryce Harper is a discounted keeper because of his 255 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: previous injuries, so he's only a twelve dollars keeper, whereas 256 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: Riley and Olson are about forty dollars. So that's why 257 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: I made the move, and luckily it's a league where 258 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: people don't get upset about that kind of thing because 259 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: I understand, you know, the keeper aspects of it. But 260 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: if that's a redraft, don't make that trade. That's a 261 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: bad trade. Yeah. 262 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm in that league too, and I flipped 263 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: Raphael Dovers and Kyle Schwarber and they're expiring contract is 264 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: basically how it goes. It's like, yeah, who's giving up 265 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: those two in one trade? But I got back a 266 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 2: couple of young players for much longer contracts. So that's 267 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: how it rolls. 268 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 3: But do not do that. 269 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: No, it is pretty alarming because I get the emails 270 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: about the trade. It's like there's a new trade in 271 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: your league, and I look at it and I'm like, 272 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: oh my god, why would those guys get traded for 273 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: that player? And then you kind of dive into the 274 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: contracts and you're like, oh, because the team going for 275 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: it is acquiring people they can't keep, whereas the team 276 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: selling is acquiring an affordable you know, Raphael Devers or 277 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: I guess you did the opposite way, but you know, 278 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: an affordable young player normally that they can keep for 279 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: a few years. So that's your normally how it goes 280 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: but they are eye popping trades on the surface where 281 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, what happened? They have to 282 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: block this trade, and then you kind of understand why. 283 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: So for our first section here, I just wanted to 284 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: get these players are all three like wildly different, so 285 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna, you know, try to compare them all, 286 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: but we can go through one one in a row, 287 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: or all three in a row. So I call this 288 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: section Guess Who's back, because in one way or another, 289 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: they all are all back from something. So Tyler Mallley 290 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: is back, and he's now he's had two starts with 291 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: the Rangers. I'm a big Tyler Molly guy, and so 292 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm excited to have him back, but I don't want to, 293 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: you know, really oversell him because I feel like I 294 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: can't do that with pictures that I really like, and 295 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: he's been out for a while and so we have 296 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: to kind of temper expectations. He has that two start 297 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: starts with the Rangers nine and two thirds innings, nine strikeouts, 298 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: two point seven nine ERA. Obviously extremely small sample size. 299 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: I do really I've talked about this before in the show. 300 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: I do really enjoy these are all these really small 301 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: sample sizes because I like to look at, you know, 302 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: all the underlying metrics, especially the expected ERA numbers, and 303 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: the smaller sample size, the better the variants you get 304 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: on some of these things. Because he has a two 305 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: point seven nine ERA two point eight seven FIP right there, 306 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: and then his ex FIP four point nine to one 307 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: nowhere close Sierra four point five to one, and then 308 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: his XCRA two point sixty five, and so that's where 309 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: you get the really small sample size. How these different 310 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: metrics value things differently, and so you can on one end, 311 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: you can say three of his five ERA metrics look 312 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: to be below three, but the other two are closer 313 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: to five, and so we'll see where he lands for 314 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: his career. He has a four point two eight ERA, 315 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: but he's been better than that for long stretches. So 316 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: do you have any interest in adding Tyler Molly in 317 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: any of your leagues down the stretch room. 318 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: I have added him in a few leagues where I 319 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: had injuries galore. I think I dropped Scherzer for him 320 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: in one league. But yeah, I've always liked him. Actually, 321 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: I don't think I like him quite as much as you, 322 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: but I've always liked him because he's always he hovers 323 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: right around that, like twenty four to twenty five percent 324 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: strikeout rate, and yeah, you're going to eat. 325 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: A little bit of a whip issue. 326 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: But you know, his fit first, what six seven years 327 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: were Instincy, So it's hard to really gauge his career 328 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: numbers when you play in a little league ball park 329 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: for that long. But yeah, I like him in Texas. 330 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: I like his possible win equity there because they seem 331 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: to be getting a little bit better lately. But really, 332 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: he's going to strike out a guy per inning, and 333 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: that's that's what I want him for. So yeah, I've 334 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: picked I have interested in him for the rest of you. 335 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's exactly why I like him too. 336 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm glad you said the strikeout percentage too, because I've 337 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: been trying to retrain my brain to look at strikeout 338 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: percentage because I've always been a Caper nine guy. And 339 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: I get the argument. I understand I should be looking 340 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: at strikeout percentage, you know, from an analytics standpoint. I'm 341 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: just you know, I'm still a baby. I'm still learning 342 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: how to how to do that. It's still very new 343 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: to me. I get it, but I'm just so used 344 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: to like, you know, I'm so like looking at twenty 345 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: twenty one, I see one hundred and eighty innings, I 346 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: see two hundred and ten strikeouts, and I'm like, that's 347 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: more than a strike up for inning I'm in. And 348 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: for that one it does line up that lead. The 349 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: strikeout rate for that year is twenty seven point seven, 350 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: so it is over that twenty four to twenty five 351 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: percent mark that you were saying. And that's why you 352 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: like him, even if his era hovers around four, as 353 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: long as he doesn't just destroy everything else. If he 354 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: has that you know, cromulent as I like to say, 355 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: e ra and a strikeout brinning or twenty five percent 356 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: strike har raid as we would say, that's exactly what 357 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking for from it from a picture like Tyler Marley, 358 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: who's essentially free. He's available all over the place right now, 359 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: and you know he's gonna get stretched out. He's you know, 360 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the six inning minimum right yet. You 361 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: know that's a few years away for him, so we 362 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that. But I'm a big 363 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: Tyler Moley guy. And if you need volume, which I 364 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: find myself in a lot of leagues. I it's not 365 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: even just I mean, obviously you always want quality, but 366 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: in a lot of leagues, I just need volume. Especially 367 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: in some of my head to head leagues where like 368 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: I had to head pitching, volume can kind of get 369 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: out of control, especially with larger roster sizes. I just 370 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: need I need that volume. That's one of the things 371 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: that's killing me in our head to head championship right 372 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: now is I can't use my transactions to get that volume, 373 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: whereas my opponent had. His top four starters are all 374 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: in two start weeks this week, So that's brutal, but 375 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: it is what it is. I'm fighting. I'm trying to win. 376 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: But if you need volume, I really like Tyler Monley 377 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: as as an option starting pitcher. Now, a player I'm 378 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: not as much interested in, and I think you agree 379 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: with me, is Jordan Walker. He's back up with the Cardinals. 380 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: Any interest whatsoever in any league anywhere in Jordan Walker 381 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: the rest of the season. 382 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: I do not have any interest in him for the 383 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: rest of the season, which you know, he got such 384 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: a he's confusing for he had that just insane spring 385 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: training last year and then like really if you look 386 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: at his numbers last year, they're not awful, and but 387 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: yet all anyone remembers is that, you know, he struck 388 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 2: out seven hundred and thirty two times or something. But 389 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: this year, I just approximately. But this year, I'm just 390 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 2: not I'm not feeling it with him. I think that 391 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: I think part of it, you know, obviously as a 392 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: Cubs fan, is that the Cardinals have really I think 393 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: they've done poorly with him, kind of jerking him around, 394 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: sending him up, send him down, like kind of what 395 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: do you want here? Type of feeling, and so, yeah, okay, 396 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: now you're up for a month and a half. Will 397 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: he have time to kind of get back to any 398 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 2: sort of power. I just don't see it. So I 399 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: would avoid him, especially if he only has outfield eligibility, 400 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: which he does. 401 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: What about how do you so he is still very young? 402 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: What about in dynasty or keeper leagues? Are are you still 403 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: in on Jordan Walker or or are you kind of 404 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: bailing on it? 405 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: I think I still have him in one of them. 406 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 2: So it's like I have hope that much like many 407 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 2: of their other outfielders, the Cardinals will inexplicably trade him 408 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: to someone and then he'll get. 409 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 3: Super good, so great, right, like. 410 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: The Ozona and the Rose Raina. Like you, there's there's 411 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: a lot of precedent for that. So yeah, so I'm 412 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: holding him in a dynasty league where you know, I 413 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: basically get to hold everyone, So I don't see the 414 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: point in really dropping him quite yet because he's twenty two. 415 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's where I'm at. I 416 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: don't know that I was ever at a high on 417 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: him as others, because I don't want to say I 418 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: saw some of this coming, but I saw the excitement 419 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: and how young he was and how raw it seemed 420 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: he was in certain areas, and I was like, I 421 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: don't know about this one. But then I also felt 422 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: like maybe he was sent down too quickly and he 423 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: kind of got a raw deal because he was like 424 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: hitting the ball on the ground and they kind of 425 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: like pulled the plug on him too quickly, and I 426 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: was like, he's not been that bad, he's been fine, 427 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: and then he just went down, and like you said, 428 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: he just kind of like the Dodgers do that sometimes too. 429 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: The Rockies obviously are known for famously known for not 430 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: developing their prospects or playing them every day. But yeah, 431 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals outfielders are just you know, they're about as bad 432 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: as it gets in terms of position players and developing them. 433 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: They just do all these weird things, and it's been 434 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: a rough run for him. But yeah, I agree, I 435 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: am not interested the rest of season. But in Dynasty, 436 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm still holding out hope. I don't know what the 437 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: ceiling is. But he's still so young, and you can 438 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: see the talent is there, especially with a build like him. 439 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: We're not talking about like a five ten, five eleven guy. 440 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: He's like six foot five, two hundred and twenty five pounds. 441 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: He's built to have that kind of power. And so 442 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: we'll say how it goes. It's too early to pooled 443 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: the plug on something like that because he's so young, 444 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: and you see the potential there the rest of season, 445 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: especially if you need things like batting average, and it's 446 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: just kind of too and we'll talk about this a 447 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: little bit more going forward. It's just kind of too 448 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: late in the season to take a chance on someone 449 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: like him, because you know, if this is April and 450 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: he's up, maybe you roll the dice and you see 451 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: what you see what things look like, because you can 452 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: still make back some of those things. But we're in 453 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: mid August. It's crunch time. You just can't roll the 454 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: dice on someone who might give you nothing this week. 455 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: So I think we're in agreement on that. 456 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: Yes we are. 457 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: Now another player who is back back from the way beyond. 458 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: Is Victor Roblist good now? 459 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: I was expecting you to give a much longer intro, 460 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: but instead on the one that I'm the one that we're. 461 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: Like, ah, you're like here, start talking? Is he good now? 462 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with not necessarily. I don't know exactly 463 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: what Seattle decided to extend him based on. You know, 464 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: he's got the three home runs like since he came 465 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 2: over to them, but it is still Victor rolled us 466 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: with the average of two thirty nine. That's his career 467 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 2: average and career ops of six seventy four, Like, like, 468 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 2: what are you seeing in him that no one else 469 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: has seen that would want him for another two years? 470 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: I mean even like, yeah, he's still twenty eight bases 471 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen and then since then it's just been 472 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: this kind of just mediocre, replacement level guy. So I 473 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: don't know why they would do that, but maybe it's Seattle. 474 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: They don't care about hitters. 475 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, So, yeah, I could have given you 476 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: a longer, longer insur there, but I felt like that 477 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: was a good, a good way to just toss it 478 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: right to you. Also, I'm losing my voice, so I'm 479 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: trying to trying to host the show the best I 480 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: can without losing my voice. Pretty Much everyone who went 481 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: to the Any Football Expo is losing their voice this week, 482 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: just from late nights of yelling over each other and 483 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: crowded you know, either crowded events or crowded bars, and 484 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: we're all just we're all just losing our voices. So 485 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: I'm doing my best. I Also, yeah, it was a surprise, 486 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: like it was fun for them to you know, get 487 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: something out of Victor Roblists. I thought it was a 488 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: pretty quick move to sign him to an extension, not 489 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: that it was an overly expensive extension. To clear up 490 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: what we're talking about, the Mariners have, you know, recently 491 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: acquired I guess not so recently, but like a couple 492 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: months ago acquired Victor Roblists, And they've already signed him 493 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: to a tow year extension and his numbers are fine, 494 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: you know, through fifty eight games, he's been into fifty 495 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: two three Hume runs sixteen stolen bases, explaining good defense 496 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: for them, which is, you know, he'll always do that 497 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: for you, and I guess they're just very happy with that. 498 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: The problem with Victor Robliss has always been and and 499 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: I kind of I remember, I remember before the COVID year. 500 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: Actually I think I was, you know, when he had 501 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: his breakout twenty nineteen year where he had seventeen home runs, 502 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: twenty he had stolen bases. Bat at two fifty five, 503 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: he was still on the twenty two years old. I 504 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: acquired him in a trade with Dan Harris. I can't 505 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: even remember. If I asked him right now, he would 506 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: know what the trade was. I can't remember what the 507 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: trade was. And I think it actually ended up getting 508 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: avoided by the COVID year, luckily for me. But there 509 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: were concerns at the time about his bat at ball 510 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: data and it was okay, he hit seventeen home runs, 511 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: but the bat ball data isn't great. Is that power sustainable? 512 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: And it turns out no, it is not, because he 513 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: hit seventeen home runs that year and he's only hit 514 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: five eleven fourteen home runs in the five season sense, 515 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: so it seems like the power was not sustainable. Speed 516 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: will always be their defense will always be there. And 517 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: if you look at you can't even really look at 518 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: his stat cast data for the last two years because 519 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: he doesn't qualify for you know, a lot of it 520 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: unless you kind of lower the threshold. But if you 521 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: look at the last in twenty twenty two, when he 522 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: played one hundred and thirty two games, his stat Cast data, 523 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: it's about as bad as it's. It's dark blue ones 524 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: and threes, and you know, it's XWOBA one XBA three 525 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: And for people at home, we don't know what I'm 526 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: talking about. This is a percentile of one to one hundred, 527 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: and so you want to be one hundred is good, 528 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: So one is about as bad. It means you're the worst. Yeah, 529 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: so x well, but one XBA three, x lug one average, 530 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: x velocity, one barrel percentage eight, hard hit percentage one 531 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: and it's just all dark blue. It's it's not even bad. 532 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: It's like as bad as you can be. It almost 533 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: have to try to be that bad. And so that's 534 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: the really concerning thing about his profile is that unless 535 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: they've unlocked something with him, he's still only twenty seven 536 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: years old. Unless they've unlocked something to really change his 537 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: added ball data, he's still going to be a guy 538 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: who doesn't hit a home a lot of home runs, 539 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: doesn't hit for a great average, and can run a 540 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: little bit. And it feels like those guys are a time. 541 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: It doesn't. 542 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the only thing is I'm looking at 543 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: like his profile, and I do. I should say very 544 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: I roster him in one league where I need stolen bases, 545 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: and since you got traded to Seattle, he's got twelve 546 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: of them, so they're kind of letting him steal at 547 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: will I think at this point. So I'm not, and 548 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 2: he's batting on the top of a terrible lineup, but 549 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: it should put him in position to score runs if 550 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 2: he's around, So yeah, I would. 551 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: So the rest of season. 552 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with rostering him if you're 553 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 2: kind of just trying to boost your stulen base. But 554 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 2: if he if he craters in terms of betting average, 555 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: just jump ship as soon as possible, because I don't 556 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 2: see anything long there's nothing long term there. It's like, 557 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: if you stop stealing, then there's not much that I 558 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 2: want him for. 559 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: So it does. It does seem like just kind of 560 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: looking at and it's still it's fifty eight games, one 561 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five played appearances, so it's still a 562 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: pretty small in the grand scheme of things. Sample size 563 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: canpare to the rest of his career. There are some 564 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: interesting changes in his profile. His hard hit percentages is 565 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: not up from last year, but it's up for his career. 566 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: It's twenty seven point seven percent. He's a career twenty 567 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: four point eight percent. His swinging strike percentage is actually up. 568 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: His career number is eleven point seven percent. It's thirteen 569 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: point six percent now after being below ten percent last year. 570 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: His barrel percentage is way higher. His career barrel percentage 571 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: is three point nine percent. It's up over it's up 572 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: near nine percent now. So you almost wonder like, is 573 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: he really changing some things and selling out, you know, 574 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: or just kind of changing his approach a little bit. 575 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: It's hard to say you're selling out when your barrel 576 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: percentage is up and your harp percent hit percentages down. 577 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't really doesn't really calculate there. Fly balls are up, though, 578 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: so he's hitting the ball in the air more. So 579 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: there are some changes. Maybe that's really what the Mariners 580 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: are counting on. They're like, we've seen enough, we're seeing 581 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: the profile change, we think he can develop, and this 582 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: is you know, it's like I said, they didn't break 583 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: the bank on this extension for him. It's two years 584 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: and I don't even remember like nine million or something, 585 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: not over the expensive in the grand scheme of baseball 586 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: contracts and what you're seeing others get. So I guess 587 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: it's a low risk move for them. I don't know 588 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: that they really need to do that move. 589 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: Yet, but yeah, and you know, they're their entire right, 590 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: their entire bread and buttery right now is just the pitching, 591 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: so you might as well add a high, high caliber 592 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: defensive guy. I just feel like how they're building their 593 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: team is very interesting, and they've blown giantly in the West, 594 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: so you know it's but I think that's why they 595 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: like him is, yeah, here's play defense behind our fantastic pitchers, 596 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 2: and we will still miss the playoffs. 597 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: So shots fired. That's not nice, all right? So that 598 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: that ends our guess who's back section. Let's go over 599 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: to our newcomers section, which these players are not all 600 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: newcomers in the same sense. One of them was just 601 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: called up. A couple of them or a few of 602 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: the others have been up for a while, but they're 603 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: still new pretty much for this year. So the big 604 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: one is Junior Cameronaro, and he was recently called up 605 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: by the Rays and it's only been two games, but 606 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: the early results not great. He's I mean, but it's 607 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: hard to say, like not for two games, right, he's 608 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: only had eight played appearances. You can say he's betting 609 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: one forty three, but you know that's that can triple 610 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: if he has a good game today, right, But in 611 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: terms of the you know, the prospect profile, he's a 612 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: highly regarded prospect in Triple A this year in fifty 613 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: three games he's been in two seventy six with thirteen 614 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: home runs, one stolen base, thirty four MBI, thirty three 615 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: runs scored. He's walking six point eight percent of the time, 616 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: strikeout rate is a perfectly reasonable twenty one point two 617 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: percent of the time twenty one point two percent. And 618 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three in Double A he hit twenty 619 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: home runs in eighty one games, So we do see 620 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: the power profile there. So what's your interest level in 621 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: Junior Cameronaro? For obviously in Dynasty you need to have 622 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: interest in him everywhere because he's that kind of prospect. 623 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: But what about rest of season. 624 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 2: I'm I'm pretty I've kind of avoided him in redrafts 625 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: for the rest of the season, just I don't like 626 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 2: some rookies come up and go on fire for like 627 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: three games and then creator out. Some take much longer 628 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: to develop, like where he's gonna go, He's gonna have 629 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: a lot of over games to start with, or just 630 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: not show all that power yet. So I you know, 631 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: if you have him, it's fine. I'm not suggesting that 632 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: you drop him if you want to wait it out, 633 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: but like in a in a league where you have 634 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: like shallow rosters, I don't. I don't want him at 635 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: this point unless I am desperate for him, like a 636 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: third baseman. So it's it's like I'm excited about him 637 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: if you know, if you have him in dynasty, like 638 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: you said, just don't you don't even think about it. 639 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: But in redraft right now, I just don't. I don't 640 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: want to roll that dice if I'm in contention. 641 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's kind of where I'm at too. If 642 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: I have the roster spot out, I'll grab him and 643 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: stash him. I tend to not have those roster spots 644 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: at this time of the year or the fab to 645 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: add someone like Junior Camonaro at the year. Yeah, and 646 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: like you said, it has been a really pretty much 647 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, position players have not 648 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: come up and hit the ground running for the most part. 649 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: We even saw Jackson Holliday come up and just fall 650 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: in his face earlier this year, and now he's back 651 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: and he's doing better. But like we were saying about 652 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: Jordan Walker, even with a prospect like this on August fifteenth, 653 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to just jump in and trust 654 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: someone like that when when they can just give you 655 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: a zero for the week or just greater a category 656 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: for a week or two. Because that's why I'll grab 657 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: him and stash him if I can. I understand the 658 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: ceiling is there. I've always thought he was a little tiny. 659 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: He's like my height and like twenty or thirty pounds 660 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: lighter than me, and like I don't not that big 661 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: a guy, so he seems very small, which is interesting. 662 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: You know, you wonder if he can you know, he's 663 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: still twenty years old, he's just a baby. If he 664 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: can continue to build out that frame. Maybe the power 665 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: gets even even better if he can put on like 666 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: twenty pounds or even like ten pounds muzzle. I don't 667 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: know that this is true, but his listed weight on 668 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: Fangraft right now I was one hundred and fifty seven pounds. 669 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that's still the case because that is 670 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: really small. Five to eleven guy. 671 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it reminds me of my favorite that my 672 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: favorite official weight last year was Christopher Morrell was listened 673 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: at one forty and I was and I'm like, have 674 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: you looked at him like his his like legs way 675 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty, what are we talking about? But 676 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: you know, so sometimes they undershoot by like thirty forty pounds. 677 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, in his case, I hope so, because yeah, 678 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: one fifty seven for his height is very small, yes, 679 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: and probably not true. So let's go through a couple 680 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: of pictures. Next, we'll pair him together. I was going 681 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: to talk about them each individually, but I don't know 682 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: that we need to. They're a little bit different. But 683 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: we can jump into Spencer Schwellenbach and Drew Thorpe and 684 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: Schwellenbach has been on a bit of a heater he's 685 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: been pitching really well lately. He's someone I kind of 686 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,959 Speaker 1: I have him in Dynasty, and like I said, it's 687 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: some of the leases I need volumes. So I've been 688 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: rolling him out there and I was just for some 689 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: for some weeks, I was just rolling him out there 690 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: and put my hand over my eyes and watching between 691 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: my fingers and seeing and hoping for the best. At 692 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 1: some of his early starts not so great, but not terrible, 693 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: and recently he's been a lot better. And so twelve starts, 694 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: seventy and two thirds innings, seventy seven strikeouts, three point 695 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: nine to five ERA, all of his expected ERA numbers 696 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: fifth X, fips, heerra, XCIRA, all between three point h 697 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: nine and three point through three, so they're all actually 698 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: lower by half a run than in his actual ERA. 699 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 1: Whip is one point oh six, strikeout percentage twenty six 700 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: point eight percent, so lots of Like in his profile there, 701 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: he's twenty four years old. And then Drew Thorpe, he 702 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: famously pitches for the White Sox, highly touted prospect, has 703 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: not gone great this year. I had some interest earlier 704 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: in the year. That interest has been decreasing by the week, 705 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: and it is now approaching zero, and that is because 706 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: one he starts for the White Sox. Two, he's not 707 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: been pitching well. Through nine starts, forty four one third innings, 708 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: only twenty five strikeouts, which is kind of baffling for 709 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: a guy who should be doing a lot better than that. 710 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: We've seen his strikeout rate of decreased as he's climbed 711 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: the you know, climb the levels, and he's still you know, 712 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: he's still very young. He's still very new to professional 713 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: baseball because he was in high A last year, so 714 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: he's kind of gone through it rapidly and it seems 715 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: like maybe he's not ready. But yeah, five point four 716 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: eight e RA. His expected numbers are all between four 717 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 1: sixty six, which is only x c RA, and all 718 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: the other ones are about in the five eights, so 719 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: they're all actually higher than he's actually ERA. So I'm 720 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and assume you have no interest in 721 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: Drew Thorpe press of season to say, probably for Dynasty, 722 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: But what about Spencer Schwellenbach. 723 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: Well, over the course of the last month, I've kind 724 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: of like fallen in love with to Spencer, So I've 725 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: got Schwellenbach, and then there is it Raghetti to correct. 726 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: Spencer Steer, Is I think the name you're looking for? 727 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, that's your guy. 728 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 729 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: No, I I think I've really enjoyed I've enjoyed roster 730 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: and Schwellenbach everywhere. 731 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 3: I've got him for about the last month. 732 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: And the only reason I had him, and this is 733 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: just a free plug for Fantasy pros projections, was I 734 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: needed a streamer for a week and he was like 735 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: number three in VBR And at first I thought it 736 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: was a like it was wrong, Like I almost checked 737 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 2: with like our data guy to be like I think 738 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 2: this is this isn't right, like you've got the wrong numbers. 739 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: But I picked him up because I trust our system 740 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: and he gave me like his two best starts in 741 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: a row, like it was, so now you know, I 742 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: have him everywhere, and I just like what he's been 743 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 2: doing over the last like five six starts. He's striking 744 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: out a ton of people. His K percentage at twenty 745 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: almost twenty seven, yeah I I yeah, So I'm in 746 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: on him, I guess. And if if he's available in 747 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 2: your league, s grab him. 748 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. I should have looked up his roster percentage, 749 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: but I don't have it in front of me. 750 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 3: I got it. 751 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, who's got him? Seventy three percent? And ESPN's 752 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: at forty seven. 753 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, ESPN's always lower because O shallow leagues Spencer. 754 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: So instead of Drew Thorpe, we should have talked about 755 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: Spencer Ragetty because his numbers on the surface are not great, 756 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: his expected numbers are a lot better, and he's been 757 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: pitching a lot better than because he came up, I believe, 758 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: and got lit up when he first got called up. 759 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: But he's been pitching a lot better lately and for 760 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: the for the season, twenty one starts, one hundred and 761 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: five innings, one hundred and twenty nine strikeouts, eras five 762 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: point one four, but his expected numbers are all a 763 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: run or lower, a run lesser beneath. I really butchered 764 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: the order of those words. But his ERA is five 765 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: point five point one four, and it's like x Fit 766 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: four point one eight or four point four fIF four 767 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: point one eight. Sierra and x Ara are all below four, 768 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: so signifantly better. His whip is still pretty high, but 769 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: if I look at the splits, I will see that 770 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: he was pitching a lot better. So Yeah, in the 771 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: second half overall three point six oh ERA and in 772 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: August through thirteen innings two point oh eight e RA. 773 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: So that speaks to why you like him and why 774 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: he's been a popular ad on the waiverbi over the 775 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: last few weeks, despite a rough start to start to 776 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: it when in March and April at ten point nine 777 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: to seven y so that is about as rough as 778 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: it gets to. 779 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 3: Start for sure. 780 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the other one that at first I 781 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: was like, I was calling all my home run calls 782 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 2: were going against him as quickly as possible. But yeah, 783 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 2: I think I remember, like Joe on leading off talking 784 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: about like he had no interest in either of these 785 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 2: two guys, and so it's actually kind of I mean, 786 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 2: you know, Joe is always wrong, but as time has 787 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 2: gone on, I'm just like, I don't know, I have 788 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: a ton of interest. 789 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 3: In both of them. 790 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: So I would say I would want either, and especially 791 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 2: if you're streaming, and I would pick up based on that. 792 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: So how about a hitter who's been pretty hot and 793 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: has been, you know, finally playing as much as we 794 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: wanted him to play in Colton Kownser who I just 795 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: moved to his game log to see something else, but 796 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, and moved away from his season long numbers. 797 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: But he's been batting lead off, which is great. He's 798 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: been playing mostly every day for the Orioles, which is 799 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: something we were, you know, lobbying for earlier in the year. 800 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: But now through one hundred and thirteen game four hundred, 801 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: just over four hundred plate appearances, he had eighteen home runs, 802 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: fifty five year RBI. He's striking out twenty eight point 803 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: six percent, which is the exact same number he had 804 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: last year when he was called up, and it's on 805 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: par with you know, pretty much he's going to strike out. 806 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 1: You know, he's going to be close to thirty percent 807 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: strikeout right batting to forty seven expected batting average, also 808 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: to forty seven seven stolen bases, so a little bit 809 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: of power speed. I assume you have interest in Culton 810 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 1: Kownser the rest of season, despite the early playing concerns 811 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: he had. 812 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 2: Yes, now that he's playing regularly and they're doing what 813 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 2: they're doing, I have plenty of interest in Cowser. 814 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 3: I would take. 815 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 2: Him, And yeah, as long as he continues to bed 816 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 2: at the top of that order, I don't see any 817 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 2: reason to stay away from him. 818 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 1: So, yeah, he does seem a little streaky, but he's 819 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, he has the kind of ceiling and he's 820 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: been kind of consistently good enough that you know, I'm 821 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 1: still interested in him, especially now that you know, like 822 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: like we said, he's playing every day, or not every day, 823 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: but most days, as opposed to you know, earlier when 824 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: he was just kind of they called him up. He 825 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: wasn't playing all the time. In the second half. In 826 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: one hundred of backs, he's betting three twenty after betting 827 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: two nineteen in the first half, and so we've seen 828 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: him kind of turn turn a corner there. Numbers are 829 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: a little bit down in the small sample size in 830 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: August after a really hot July, but in May he betted, 831 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: so he came out and in twenty seven games in 832 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: April bat at three oh three, and then in May 833 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: and June he batted below two hundred, and then in 834 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: July three twenty nine, and now in August only twelve 835 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: games but two forty. But it does come with two 836 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: home runs, you know, in just twelve game fifty played appearances, 837 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 1: and so it seems like he's a little bit streaky, 838 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: but the ceiling is there pretty much across the board 839 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: that you know, I'm in agreement. He's probably rostered everywhere 840 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: because of that ceiling. But I just wanted to mention 841 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: him because he's kind of, you know, he was kind 842 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 1: of an for that before, but now that he's playing 843 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 1: every day, he's a must start, and you know, he's 844 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: highly unlikely to be available in your league, but if 845 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: he is, somebody should have exactly. So the last section 846 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: here of rest of season interest is kind of this 847 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: pitcher pot pourrie. I wanted to call it for no 848 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: apparent reason other than it was just a pile of pitchers, 849 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: and so we can talk about them quickly. But I 850 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 1: grouped them all together. Cutter Crawford and Tanner Hawk, who 851 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 1: we agreed before the show might be the same person, 852 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: Blake Sell, Black Snell, and Garrett Crochet, and we can 853 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: talk about them for all different reasons except for Crawford 854 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: and how who are the same person. Some new pitchers 855 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: who really had great starts of the year with all 856 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: the Red Sox pitching development, you know, overhauled kind of 857 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: their whole approach. They both regressed in a big way 858 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: the last month or so. Blake Snell, who didn't have 859 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: a contract coming into the year, started very late, started 860 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: very poorly, and has now been pitching his butt off. 861 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: And then Garrett Crochet, who you said before the show, 862 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: you can probably drop everywhere. 863 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 2: I yeah, I'm out on Curchet for the rest of 864 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 2: the season, not even a question. I feel like I 865 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 2: told you before the show that I think he thoroughly 866 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: thought that he was going to get traded, even with 867 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 2: his little disclaimer, Like it felt like he fully expected 868 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 2: all of that to fall perfectly into place, and then 869 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 2: it didn't. And now it's like he's realized he's on 870 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 2: the White Sox and he's got nothing to pitch for. 871 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 2: And so I feel like, in some ways, you know, 872 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 2: and I'm not saying this, this is just how it looks, 873 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 2: at least statistically and for fantasy purposes, it just looks 874 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 2: like he's kind of quit. I'm not saying that about 875 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 2: him personally. I'm sure he's still doing everything he can. 876 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 2: It just he doesn't keep I would hope not, but 877 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 2: he just he just doesn't have the look of a 878 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 2: guy that's trying to really do anything special at all. 879 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 2: And if they're gonna cap his innings the way there 880 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 2: are three innings for and like I'm fully out you could, yeah, 881 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: without I would just drop him, is where I'm at. 882 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, what Aboututter Crawford and Tanner Hawk? Where are you 883 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: in terms of rostering them and dropping them? And I'll 884 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: give you some quick numbers to kind of paint why 885 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm asking here. So Tanner Hack, I'm not looking at Tannerhick. Yeah, 886 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: Tanner Hawk through the first half two point five four ERA, 887 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: and that includes in April one point six oht e 888 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: RA and May two point oh nine RA. So just 889 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: came out of the gate of the gates fireing in 890 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 1: twenty nine two thirty AYE in the second half four 891 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: point eight five RA, including a four point five eight 892 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: e RA in August. So he's just kind of fallen 893 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: apart a little bit here, and then Crutter Crawford. It's 894 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: even worse for Credit Crawford. He started out with a 895 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: one point three five ERA. He kind of fell apart 896 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: again in May with a five point one four ARRA, 897 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: but then he settled in around you know, in June 898 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: and July it was between four and three and a 899 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: half second half nine point seven five RA, including a 900 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: nine point four to two ERA. He is just I 901 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: don't know, aut of gas or something, and I think 902 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: Tanner Hawck maybe I'm more inclined to hold on Cruter Crawford, 903 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 1: the person I was playing against in last week's playoff 904 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: matchup streamed him to his demise pretty much. Yeah, but yeah, 905 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: it's not going great for Credter Crawford, So you know, 906 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: I would lean drop on definitely Crawford. And I'm on 907 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: the fence about Tanner Hawk. Where are you on those two? 908 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I play in a few deep 909 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 2: leagues where dropping pictures is just a terrible idea almost 910 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 2: across the board. But if I have the choice, I 911 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 2: would drop Crawford. Yeah, I'm on the same boat with 912 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 2: hawklike I would. I think I'll stream him and otherwise 913 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 2: it's kind of that keep him on the bench, and 914 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 2: then if you continuously keep him on the bench, like 915 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 2: through three starts in a row, drop him because you're 916 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 2: not going to stream him against anybody. 917 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, and then Blake Snell real quick, there's not 918 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: a whole lot actionable here because he's going to be 919 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: rostered everywhere based on what he's doing right now. But 920 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: it's there are going to be a lot of stories 921 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: head of next year that people who won their leagues 922 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: probably picked up Blake Snell from someone who dropped him, 923 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: because when he came out he he had an eleven 924 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 1: point five He started the year late eleven point five 925 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: to seven the RA in April. May wasn't made much 926 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: better at eight point five to nine. June was slightly 927 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: better at five point seventy nine, and since then he's 928 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: been unhittable, just unhittable. And July zero point seventy five 929 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: y RA, August one point two to seven the RA, 930 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: and then for the second half one point three to 931 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: five RA and just you know, he even pitched uh, 932 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, more than seven innings a couple of weeks 933 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 1: ago about that first time ever. Yep, and one point 934 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 1: three five hours. He's just winning people league. So it's 935 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 1: not a whole lot actionable there. I just wanted to 936 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: point that out because it's just a wild story for him. 937 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: I've never been a huge Blake Snell guy because even 938 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: when you get you know, like you there are those 939 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,720 Speaker 1: wild fluctuations, and even when he's going great, like sometimes 940 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: you don't even get those quality starts because of how 941 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, he's like a five inning kind of guy. 942 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: But now there's gonna be a lot of stories next year. 943 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: Are people who just got fed up and dropped him 944 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: and people who picked him up and they're just riding 945 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: him to a championship right now. 946 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I mean he's just that's just kind 947 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 2: of the lasting impact from him at this point, is 948 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 2: you know, even if they start late, if this is 949 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 2: kind of a proven commodity of especially a strikeout artist 950 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 2: like he is, you might either you hold on to 951 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 2: him as long as you possibly can, or you draft 952 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 2: them in the first place. 953 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so real quick, I want to hit on a 954 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 1: few players. We don't have to spend a lot of 955 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: time on this because I you know, I think we're 956 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: going to be in agreement on it. But there are 957 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: a few injuries for all different players that have injuries, 958 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,879 Speaker 1: but kind of like different phases of their injury. There's 959 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: Jazz Chism who just went down with an elbow injury 960 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: that doesn't look great. The latest news on him is 961 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: that he's they're hopeful he'll be back in three weeks. 962 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: The three weeks is pretty much the rest of the 963 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: fantasy season, and so not a whole lot to be 964 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: helpful about there. Tristan Kassis, it sounds like he's coming 965 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: back to the Red Sox soon. But he's been on 966 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: just the longes. You know, he's been out pretty much 967 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 1: the entire season. He's been even he's been in the 968 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: minor league minor leagues in a rehab assignment for a while. 969 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: It apparently runs out next week, so like he's eligible 970 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: to come back, they just haven't brought him back. They 971 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: want to keep him down there despite the fact that 972 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: they could really use him in that lineup. So that 973 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: kind of shows you where he at, where he's at 974 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: in his rehab. But he'll be back next week apparently, sure, 975 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, supposedly see and then there's Max sures Or, 976 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 1: who seems like you can probably just drop him for 977 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: right now. So what do you think about any of 978 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 1: those three Jazz Chisholm, Tristan Cassis, Max sures Er. I 979 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: feel like I don't know that I want to roster 980 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: any of them right now, And if I want to 981 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: roster one of them, it's probably Cassis, and it's just 982 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: rolling the dice that he comes back and is anything 983 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: like he can be. 984 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I drafted Cassis everywhere, so he's on my aisle everywhere, 985 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 2: even when he was you know what did he call it? 986 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 2: He was visualizing swings, which I'll never get over as 987 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:52,399 Speaker 2: long as I live. 988 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't. 989 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I think if you head Chisholm the Yankees 990 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 2: and you have gotten everything you're gonna get out of him, 991 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 2: So I could drop him if I need space. And 992 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 2: you know, I think it's time we talk about Schurezer 993 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 2: might just be old, and so you can drop him too, 994 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 2: because even like in a keeper league or dynasty, like, 995 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 2: he's not going to give you anything anymore. 996 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's where I'm at. So yeah, I would keep. 997 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 3: I would. 998 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 2: I'm keeping Castes just because I have him everywhere. But 999 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,720 Speaker 2: the other two I think you can drop. 1000 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually I don't have Chisholm in this one league. 1001 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: But in another keeper league, I drafted really well and 1002 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: I had good keepers, and I just kind of stashed 1003 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of players for the playoff run because that's 1004 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: always what happens to me. I happen to have Mike 1005 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 1: Trout and Christian Yelich in that league, and so September 1006 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: has not been kind to me, and I head to 1007 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: head league having rostering those two players. But I drafted 1008 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: well and I was able to draft people late like 1009 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 1: Shrezer and de Gram because I was like, Okay, these 1010 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 1: will be good late season fireballers for me for the 1011 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: head to have playoffs. And then I had some depth 1012 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: at other positions and I acquired assets like I don't know, 1013 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: six weeks ago, just for just for this push, this push, 1014 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: And now I'm concerned that Like luckily it's in ops league, 1015 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: so you know, he won't hurt me as much of 1016 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: batting average because of you know, his tendency to get 1017 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: on base. But he's just been out for so long 1018 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: and his rehabs had taken so long that I'm just 1019 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: worried what we're what we're even getting back at this point. 1020 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: So I do have interest in Casses, but it is 1021 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:23,959 Speaker 1: a concerned interest for sure. 1022 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 2: Yes. 1023 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: So in the past, we've done waivers where we each 1024 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,479 Speaker 1: picked two players a pitcher and a and a hitter 1025 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: to target. We're at the point of the year. I 1026 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: don't think we can do that anymore. The pickings are slim, 1027 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: and so I just kind of went through and I 1028 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,959 Speaker 1: listed a bunch of players of varying roster percentages, and 1029 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: I think we can just go through them quickly and see, yes, no, 1030 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: do you have any interest in adding them, and I 1031 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 1: kind of looked at the rest of season VBR and 1032 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: these are the names that stuck out. The one I 1033 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: kind of cheated on is Nate Loud, but I'll get 1034 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: to him. So the three names are Jesse Winker, who 1035 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: is rostered in thirty three percent of leagues, Nate Loo 1036 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: sixty percent of leagues, Brandon Lowe, his brother, forty six 1037 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,280 Speaker 1: percent of leagues, Jeffrey Springs thirty nine percent, Ryan Nelson 1038 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: twenty six percent, and Paul Blackburn thirty percent. The Blackburn 1039 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: number I thought was low because he's been pitching really 1040 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: well and is a two star pitcher this week, so 1041 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: I thought his roster percentage will be higher, but I 1042 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 1: guess not enough people are picking him up. Jesse Winker 1043 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: was a name that stood out because of the just 1044 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 1: bizar year he's having. But I talked a lot on 1045 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: this show about how and you mentioned earlier the VBR 1046 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: on Fantasy pros and I like to look at that 1047 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: for like season long stats and then also for projections, 1048 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: just to see the value of a player that I'm 1049 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: thinking about picking up. And the wild thing about Jesse 1050 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 1: Winker is when I was looking at his weekly VBR. 1051 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: This week that we're currently in, he was twenty eight 1052 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: overall VBR in terms of value for hitters. Rest of 1053 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 1: season he's two twenty eight, So I don't know what 1054 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: we saw in him this week he jumped to the 1055 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: top thirty, but rest of season two twenty eight and 1056 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: this week, I guess we really like it. Maybe we're 1057 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: not protecting him to just get that kind of playing 1058 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: time going forward, but that was really interesting. And then 1059 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 1: Nate low is eighty four VBR rest of season, Brandon 1060 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: Low ninety six VBR rest of season, both playing pretty well, 1061 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: especially Brandon not actually brothers. That was a joke by me, 1062 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: so and a really funny one at that. So Jeffries, yeah, 1063 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Springs, and especially when they're pnounced differently, jeff spelled 1064 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: the saying pronounced differently. Whichever one of those hominem homophone 1065 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 1: words those are holographs. 1066 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely a holograph, Yeah, one of those. 1067 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 1: And then Jeffrey Springs is a picture. Sorry, Jeffree Springs 1068 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 1: is a picture that I've always been very high on. Obviously, 1069 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: he's still working his way back from injury, but thirty 1070 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 1: nine percent, I feel like it's too low for him too, 1071 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 1: especially you know, we've talked about throughout the show about 1072 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 1: needing volume. Jeffery Springs something I'm really interested in, and 1073 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: he needs to be rostered in definitely more than fifty 1074 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 1: percent of leagues. So I'll read the name again. Jesse Winker, 1075 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 1: Nate Loo, Brandon Lowe, Jeff Springs, Ryan Nelson, Paul Blackburne. 1076 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 1: I don't know why I call them jeff Springs. His 1077 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,240 Speaker 1: name is Jeffrey. I don't know everyone can call him Jeff. 1078 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 3: I mean at this point, but are we going to 1079 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 3: do any of them correctly? 1080 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, So any interest in any of those 1081 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: hitters or pitchers the rest of season or at least 1082 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: not even rest of season, but at least it's. 1083 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,760 Speaker 3: Upcoming week, So yeah, Winker. 1084 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 2: I feel like if you look at weekly projections, occasionally 1085 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 2: he'll be like the top free agent pickup and then 1086 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 2: the next week non existent, So you have to be 1087 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 2: careful with him. Obviously, he's always been good for base 1088 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,800 Speaker 2: percentage league, so if you are in one of those, 1089 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 2: then I would definitely make sure he's on your team. 1090 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 2: I don't have I don't really don't have a lot 1091 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 2: of interest in either of the non brothers right now 1092 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 2: unless you really need them. 1093 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 3: Brandon. 1094 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 2: I've never liked rostering Brandon, so I just kind of 1095 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 2: stay away from him. I have springs. I picked him 1096 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 2: up a lot of places or drafted him, so yeah, 1097 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 2: you got to wait him out. I don't know in 1098 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 2: terms of volume how long he's been able to go 1099 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 2: in both of his first two starts or first three starts, 1100 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,240 Speaker 2: but he's definitely got a lot of upside. I actually 1101 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,240 Speaker 2: like Ryan Nelson a lot, but again as a streamer, 1102 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 2: and Paul Blackburn, he's just hurt by his name because 1103 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:37,280 Speaker 2: everyone knows him as Paul Blackburn the Oakland Athletic where 1104 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,399 Speaker 2: you know you get one good start followed by four 1105 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 2: really not good starts. So there's a lot of I 1106 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 2: again with I don't know, I feel like right now 1107 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 2: in most league, like I'm just looking for pitching, So 1108 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 2: I'm really really focused on those last three. I could 1109 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 2: roster any one of them, but I would definitely want 1110 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 2: to play matchups, I think for the most part. 1111 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we mentioned how Paul Blackburn had a two 1112 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,760 Speaker 1: start week this week. I had really grand visions of 1113 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,359 Speaker 1: riding Paul Blackburn in my championship, especially because I've given 1114 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 1: Joe such a hard time about it, as my dog 1115 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: shakes's collar next to me right here, just because I 1116 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: gave Joe such a hard time about Paul Blackburn for years, 1117 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: and so I was just hoping to just, you know, 1118 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,879 Speaker 1: pick up Paul Blackburn, ride his two star week right 1119 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 1: off into sunset with the championship and just throw it 1120 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 1: in Joe's face. But I was not able to pick 1121 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: him up because of the rules of our championship were 1122 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: because they're two separate leagues. You can't pick someone up 1123 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,800 Speaker 1: who's rostered in the other league and someone somehow was 1124 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: still who's been out of it for like two months, 1125 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 1: it's still rostering Paul Blackburn. I was like, why were 1126 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 1: you rostering Paul Blackburn two months ago? But for whatever reason, 1127 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: he is and I couldn't pick him up. And so 1128 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, that's why I'm going to lose the championhip, 1129 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 1: because I couldn't roster Paul Blackburn. 1130 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 3: That's the only excuse, Yeah, the only reason. 1131 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,919 Speaker 1: All right. So one other thing I wanted to get 1132 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,720 Speaker 1: into and I threw this set you right before we started, 1133 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 1: so you had no time to prepare for It was 1134 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 1: kind of the theme of the show is rest of 1135 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 1: season strategy and how to approach your leagues. And I 1136 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 1: just wanted to do like one piece of advice for 1137 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: fantasy managers because if I feel like, if you're sticking 1138 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 1: it out this long in mid August, you know you're 1139 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: in it for the long haul, but you also need 1140 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,359 Speaker 1: to understand that like the game has changed. You know, 1141 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 1: this is not the season long format you're used to. 1142 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 1: This is a sprint to the finish, and you you 1143 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 1: just can't treat it the same as you know, like 1144 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,240 Speaker 1: we were talking earlier, like you can't value Jordan Walker 1145 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: in August like you value him in April. It's not 1146 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 1: the same thing. It's a different game. The game's unchanged. 1147 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 1: And so what's one piece of rest of season advice 1148 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,719 Speaker 1: that you would give to fantasy managers here in mid 1149 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 1: August with you know, just you know, however, many weeks 1150 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 1: are left in there in a roto or head to 1151 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 1: head seasons. 1152 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,759 Speaker 2: Right, So you technically took the one that I was 1153 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 2: probably going to do or what like, I think that's 1154 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,839 Speaker 2: the most important one. So I'm taking just a kind 1155 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 2: of a different version of it, which now you can 1156 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 2: stream to your heart's content, like wherever. I mean obviously 1157 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 2: acquisition limits, which you should never take Mayor's advice on, 1158 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 2: but but street like, if you want to stream picture, 1159 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 2: you want to stream a hitter for a week, you 1160 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 2: want to stream a like, go for it, there's nothing 1161 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 2: and go ahead and kind of cut whoever you want 1162 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,879 Speaker 2: to cut, Like, don't feel bad about picking up Paul 1163 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 2: Blackburn for a two start week and then dropping him 1164 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 2: for you know, Kyle Harrison or Ryan Nelson or like, 1165 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 2: It's okay depending on on the matchups and hitters are 1166 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 2: really the same way, like I was talking about with Winker, Like, 1167 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 2: the cool thing about streaming a hitter is that you 1168 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 2: know exactly who you're going to drop for your next streamer, 1169 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 2: so you're basically rotating like one roster spot and at 1170 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 2: this point in the season like that, I think that's 1171 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 2: one hundred percent like a valid way to go about it. 1172 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, and my advice is is pretty similar, and I 1173 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 1: just wrote down to ignore the names viciously cut guys, 1174 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: And obviously I don't mean that literally, don't cut your 1175 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 1: whole team. But a lot of times in fantasy, you know, 1176 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,879 Speaker 1: if it's may you know and this high you know this, 1177 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 1: you know superstar name is struggling. You can't cut him 1178 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 1: in May if if he's struggling, or if you're coming 1179 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 1: into a week and he hasn't been playing great, and 1180 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, especially if it's like a head to head 1181 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 1: matchup and you're going to the playoffs and he's only 1182 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,839 Speaker 1: got five games and there's someone sitting on the waiver 1183 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 1: wire with good matchups who's got seven games. Cut him. 1184 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 1: Just cut that guy. Don't worry worry about next week. 1185 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 1: Next week, you can't. You just have to treat it 1186 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 1: like week to week right now and get to the end. 1187 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: And you just can't worry about cutting someone for name 1188 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 1: value because you know you're not going to regret cutting someone. Oh, 1189 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 1: I didn't have this guy for the last two weeks 1190 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 1: of August, because if you don't cut him, you might lose, 1191 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 1: and you might you might have to worry about it anyway. 1192 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 1: So just ignore the name, look at the matchups and 1193 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 1: and you know, and the value and you know, like 1194 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,760 Speaker 1: your advice kind of goes the same like stream stream guys. 1195 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, like the name value is gone. Just cut 1196 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: those guys. 1197 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 2: I remember last year I was in the championship in 1198 00:55:55,320 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 2: the league and and I cut Mattelson's he struck out 1199 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 2: like he was just in the middle of this horrible 1200 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 2: slump and I needed a spot for some I don't 1201 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 2: remember who I picked up, but it worked out kind of. 1202 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 2: So but yeah, it's you just you have to if 1203 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,879 Speaker 2: it's not a keep, especially if it's not a keeper, 1204 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,280 Speaker 2: or if you're not going to keep them, it doesn't 1205 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,359 Speaker 2: matter what their name is, and maybe your opponent will 1206 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,479 Speaker 2: go pick up the guy you just dropped and he'll 1207 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 2: continue to suck for that guy. 1208 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:27,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's especially true for leagues going into the playoffs. 1209 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 1: A lot of leagues have rules about transactions as you 1210 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: get if you're like into head to head in the playoffs, 1211 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 1: so there's a low chance you're even gonna lose that guy. 1212 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 1: If you want it back next week, you're probab gonna 1213 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,840 Speaker 1: be able to pick himup, because if you win your matchup, 1214 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 1: there might only be two or three teams left even 1215 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: able to pick that guy up. Chances are if you 1216 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 1: cut him, they probably don't want him anyway. And so yeah, 1217 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: just don't get fooled by that name value. Don't feel 1218 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,279 Speaker 1: like you can't cut someone just because they're an All star. 1219 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 1: If they're even enough they've been bad for a month 1220 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 1: kind of or you know, yep, it's all about now, 1221 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: all right, Before we get out of here, we have 1222 00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 1: to continue the season one and two start pitch your company, 1223 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: So even though Worm is not here, you will be 1224 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 1: picking for Worm. We have yet to decide what the 1225 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 1: punishment is, and hopefully it's not too bad because I 1226 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,320 Speaker 1: am losing this matchup. And we also pointed out that 1227 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: while we were both like out at various points in 1228 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 1: July and August, the replacements all won their matchups against 1229 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: the incumbents, so we should so basically I have no 1230 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 1: chance of beating you. And also heading into this week, 1231 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 1: he was up ten to six. But I like to 1232 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: point out that there were two selections, I think, one 1233 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 1: picked by you and one picked by Tuma, where it 1234 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 1: was essentially a dead heat for the week, and you 1235 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 1: guys both picked Worm, and so if you would both 1236 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 1: pick me, it would be an eight eight tie right now. 1237 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 1: So I just like to always mention that as we 1238 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: get into the two start competition, it looks like I'm 1239 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 1: winning big, but it's really a coin flip and this 1240 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: is tiede So just so the listeners know, I want 1241 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 1: that in a record, So I am a bad host 1242 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 1: and I've not tallied last week's two starts yet. Hopefully 1243 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: Worm doesn't listen to this and doesn't know, so I'll 1244 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 1: update that score next week. We're always like a week 1245 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 1: behind because the two start pictures that are happening, or 1246 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 1: actually there was no last week, so that we're not 1247 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 1: even behind that much. So maybe I might have the 1248 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,880 Speaker 1: tally right now. Definitely don't tell where I'm that I'm 1249 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: that far behy. It might be ten eight. I might 1250 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: be only down ten eight right now for all I know. 1251 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 3: Yep. 1252 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 1: So I'll tell you it all for next week and 1253 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 1: we'll see where the standings are. But we also we 1254 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 1: have yet to determine a punishment, so if you have 1255 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 1: any good ideas for a punishment, we're probably gonna do 1256 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 1: it heading into next season when we start doing like 1257 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 1: draft coverage in February March. We'll be on YouTube then, 1258 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 1: so make sure to tune in when we're on YouTube. 1259 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 1: You get to see my face this time, and so 1260 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 1: hopefully the punishment isn't too bad because I'm losing. So 1261 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 1: all that being said, who is your two start picture 1262 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 1: selection for this week? This very important week in the competition. 1263 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 3: Very important week. 1264 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 2: So I looked at Hunter Green, I wrote him down, 1265 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 2: and then I continued to look at Kyle Harrison, for 1266 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 2: the is scheduled to get the White Sox and the Mariners. 1267 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 3: And I don't. I'm again, what are you doing right? 1268 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you know that could definitely backfire now watch 1269 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 2: rules will hit like three homers often, but I like 1270 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 2: any pitcher against those two teams to rack up just 1271 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 2: all the strikeouts. The only way it could be better 1272 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 2: is if he had a third start against Colorado. 1273 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, not in Colorado, right my pick. I'm going with 1274 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 1: Chris Sale, who I have not used yet this season. 1275 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: Worm was giving me a hard time earlier this year 1276 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 1: because I was kind of saving my bullets till the end, 1277 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: and he was like, the season isn't that long, You're 1278 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 1: going to run out of guys. Pretty you know you're 1279 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 1: not going to run out of guys. So I get 1280 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 1: to use Chris Sale, so let's hope I will. He's 1281 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 1: got San Francisco Giants and the Los Angeles Angels, who 1282 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,959 Speaker 1: might sneakily be the worst roster in baseball. Everyone looks 1283 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: at the Rockies and White Sox, it might actually be 1284 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 1: the Angels. So, yeah, I have Chris Sale. I'm hoping, 1285 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, he continues to be Chris Sale doesn't turn 1286 00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 1: back into bad Chrisale this week. It's going to be 1287 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 1: in one of these weeks. Hopefully we got one more 1288 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 1: week of good Chris Sale. Yeah, that is pretty much 1289 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 1: anything else before we close it out. 1290 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 2: No, I just wanted to totally remind everyone what you 1291 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 2: said at the beginning, which is like, this is when 1292 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 2: you win it, you can like people are checking out, 1293 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 2: they're not paying attention. Just take over and find the 1294 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 2: other person in your league who's really paying attention and 1295 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 2: try to counter what they're doing. 1296 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, this time of the year also, it's an exciting 1297 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 1: time of the year. It's also going to be a 1298 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,440 Speaker 1: frustrating time of the year, especially in RODO where you 1299 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,120 Speaker 1: see teams. Obviously, if a team's really checked out, they're 1300 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 1: not sitting their lineup, it's a problem and they need 1301 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 1: to be out of your league. But it's also like 1302 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 1: if a team is just kind of an autopilot, you 1303 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,440 Speaker 1: can see, you know, if you're winning a category on 1304 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 1: someone that you're like really competing with in the standings, 1305 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 1: that team that's not really paying attention and they're just 1306 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,440 Speaker 1: kind of an autopilot. They'll start to fall on the standings, 1307 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 1: and so it can be frustrating if like your competition 1308 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,400 Speaker 1: is gaining on those categories. So it could be an 1309 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 1: interesting thought experiment or strategy for you to look at 1310 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 1: the bottom of your standings and look at those teams 1311 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 1: that are at the bottom and then look at the 1312 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,320 Speaker 1: categories and see where they're doing well, because there are 1313 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 1: probably a few categories where they're still like above you, 1314 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 1: and just see if you can catch them in that categories. 1315 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 1: Maybe you know, that can impact who you stream on 1316 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: a week to week basis. Maybe you're only like three 1317 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 1: stolen bases behind that team. It's on autopilot, and you 1318 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 1: can load up on a couple of stolen based streamers 1319 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 1: and steal a category, and that can be the difference 1320 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 1: between winning your league and you know, not catching the 1321 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 1: guy ahead of you. That's pretty much it. That's all 1322 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: we got for this week as a reminder the best 1323 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 1: freeway To show your support and encourage more content like this, 1324 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: leave a positive review at fantasypros dot com slash MLB 1325 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 1: review and also make sure you drop drop into our 1326 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 1: discord server at Fantasypros dot com slash Chat. 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