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Speaker 5: The Senate confirming President Donald Trump's pick for Attorney General,
Speaker 5: Todd blanche.
Speaker 6: We're gonna go now to Laura Davidson.
Speaker 2: She's Bloomberg News Washington Deputy Bureau Chief Laura Late night
Speaker 2: for our colleagues on the Hill before everybody tries to
Speaker 2: skip town. This looks like when I went to bed
Speaker 2: last night, it wasn't going to happen. Possibly, and then
Speaker 2: you had but you had Bill Cassidy, who had been
Speaker 2: like the big holdout, coming out and changing his mind
Speaker 2: kind of yesterday, and then it was a holding pattern
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden it's got pushed through
Speaker 2: this morning, Can you.
Speaker 6: Walk us through how this came about.
Speaker 7: Yes, this is how Congress frequently works is there's a
Speaker 7: whole lot of nothing and then suddenly, you know, in
Speaker 7: the wee hours of the morning, you're able to get
Speaker 7: the votes and push something across the finish line.
Speaker 8: Once Senate leaders have exhausted everyone and they're you know,
Speaker 8: agreeing to vote for things.
Speaker 7: So this is really, you know, sort of a remarkable
Speaker 7: end to a week's long saga. If you had, you know,
Speaker 7: multiple senators coming out and expressing some concerns about Todd
Speaker 7: Blanche and also just how Trump is influencing the Justice Department,
Speaker 7: particularly this one point eight billion dollar quote anti weaponization
Speaker 7: fund that would have gone to support January sixth insurrectionists
Speaker 7: and other allies of the president, as well as the
Speaker 7: president being able to cut a deal with the Irs
Speaker 7: to save himself from any tax audits. So you know,
Speaker 7: they were able to get some concessions. You know, some
Speaker 7: Republicans were able to get some concessions from the Justice
Speaker 7: Department that really limited the scope of that tax deal
Speaker 7: as well as essentially tabling killing off that anti weaponization fund.
Speaker 7: You still had two senators who said no way Susan
Speaker 7: Collins and Lisa Murkowski expressing broader concerns. But the last
Speaker 7: vote what everyone was waiting for Bill Cassidy of Louisiana.
Speaker 7: He is a lame duck senator of Trump essentially opposed
Speaker 7: him in his primary, and he will be leaving Congress
Speaker 7: next year.
Speaker 8: Everyone was watching him.
Speaker 7: He came out on the Senate floor yesterday and said, look,
Speaker 7: I have some problems with how the Justice Department is
Speaker 7: being run, but I think that Todd Blanch is going
Speaker 7: to be better than any other candidate that Trump is
Speaker 7: going to put forward, and so therefore I'm going to
Speaker 7: go ahead and give him my support and vote yes.
Speaker 5: Let me play a bit of that sound from that
Speaker 5: speech again. This was highly anticipated, given that Murkowski defected,
Speaker 5: Collins defected. What was Bill Casty going to do. Let's
Speaker 5: play and listen of what he had to play a
Speaker 5: little bit of what he had to say here on
Speaker 5: the Senate floor.
Speaker 9: Mister Blanch is not perfect, and he will tell you this.
Speaker 9: But the choice is not between perfection and mister Blanche.
Speaker 9: It is between mister Blanche and another acting Attorney general
Speaker 9: who may not run the apartment effectively under President Trump,
Speaker 9: and who indeed may not be as good as mister
Speaker 9: Blanche Laurie.
Speaker 5: Let's pick that apart a little bit. There not a
Speaker 5: ringing endorsement.
Speaker 2: No, it is really the endorsement I would want going
Speaker 2: into a new top.
Speaker 5: And sorry, David, what do you make of what the
Speaker 5: Center had to say to the rational as he presented
Speaker 5: it there on the Senate floor.
Speaker 8: Well, I think you just have to take a look
Speaker 8: at some recent history. If you look at you.
Speaker 7: Know who Trump has talked about having a top that
Speaker 7: the Justice Department of the past.
Speaker 8: You his first pick back when he.
Speaker 7: Was recently re elected in twenty twenty four, he wanted
Speaker 7: Matt Gates, the really embattled and scandal plagued a member
Speaker 7: of Congress who had had facing all sorts of allegations
Speaker 7: of you know, underage sex charges and a whole bunch
Speaker 7: of problems. That really got a very quick swift no
Speaker 7: from Senate Republicans. That's when he pivoted to Pam BONDI.
Speaker 7: Of course, now Blanche will be replacing Bondie. But I
Speaker 7: think you you know, in that speech, Cassidy mentioned that
Speaker 7: he thinks that Todd Blanche will be a hands on
Speaker 7: administrator and.
Speaker 8: Me, you know, sort of be able to run a
Speaker 8: very very large.
Speaker 7: Department of thousands and thousands of lawyers, and that he's
Speaker 7: not worried sort of broadly about I mean, mister Blanche's character,
Speaker 7: whereas he you know, sort of suggested that there would
Speaker 7: be other candidates that the President might be interested in
Speaker 7: who he would have more concerns with.
Speaker 2: You mentioned that what there were these two big concerns,
Speaker 2: and one of them was this anti weaponization fund, and
Speaker 2: Blanche kind of explained what he did. He kind of
Speaker 2: wrote a memo or a promise that it's gone away,
Speaker 2: but my understanding is it's not really binding.
Speaker 6: Right, So it was enough, It was enough to get
Speaker 6: him over the line. But can he change his mind?
Speaker 8: Yes? This is really kind of the legal questions surrounding this.
Speaker 7: What some members of Congress wanted is is this written
Speaker 7: into law saying that this could never come back up again. Instead,
Speaker 7: what they got is sort of a you know, sort
Speaker 7: of a memo from the Justice Department saying this is
Speaker 7: this is going away, but this is you know, continues
Speaker 7: to be concerning to some members of Congress that this
Speaker 7: could come back up in future deals. You know, as
Speaker 7: we've seen you know, Trump time and time again. You know,
Speaker 7: has said he didn't really want this to go away,
Speaker 7: even though his allies and aids were telling him that
Speaker 7: this was going to be sort of sacrificed, you know,
Speaker 7: for the broader good of getting his attorney general pick
Speaker 7: across the line. You know, we've seen this on a
Speaker 7: whole broad range of issues where Trump says, you know,
Speaker 7: he's moving on, but then suddenly brings it up. We've
Speaker 7: seen this with a reflecting pool. We've seen this with
Speaker 7: the ballroom of that he continues to fight on some
Speaker 7: of these personal priorities for him.
Speaker 5: I don't think that what we saw last night meets
Speaker 5: the strict definition of a voter rama. We had Stephen Dennis,
Speaker 5: our colleague, on a few weeks back, and we talked
Speaker 5: about that with him. But there was a string of
Speaker 5: legislation that the Senate dealt with before departing Washington yesterday.
Speaker 5: Another had to do with spending, and I want to
Speaker 5: ask you about that, Laura, if I could. I mean, customarily,
Speaker 5: or at least in recent memory, there have been a
Speaker 5: lot of these kind of last minute spending bills that
Speaker 5: have been quite acrimonious. They've led to government shutdowns. What
Speaker 5: was passed. I think was it ninety to six last night?
Speaker 5: Was not that it didn't seem like it went down
Speaker 5: to the wire in the same way that it hasn't
Speaker 5: in the past. What did the Senate accomplished in that regard?
Speaker 5: What does it mean for the fall as we look
Speaker 5: ahead to the midterms in terms of how the government
Speaker 5: is funded.
Speaker 7: Yes, so they passed is what's called a continuing resolution
Speaker 7: or a CR. This is essentially a stop gap government
Speaker 7: funding bill to keep the government open past the deadline
Speaker 7: when current funding is set to expire.
Speaker 8: At the end of September.
Speaker 7: This would keep the government open until December eleventh, so
Speaker 7: essentially kicks the can down the road beyond the midterm elections,
Speaker 7: which no one wants to see a shutdown happen during. Then,
Speaker 7: what they haven't resolved yet is they haven't come to
Speaker 7: agreement with the House. So good points for them doing
Speaker 7: their advanced reading, but they have not reached the group
Speaker 7: stage project of this.
Speaker 8: So when the.
Speaker 7: Senate comes back on September fourteenth, I note they have
Speaker 7: just about two weeks to work with the House to
Speaker 7: get a bill passed, so there's still a chance of
Speaker 7: a shutdown. Chances tick down significantly last night when they
Speaker 7: were able to at least get something on paper that
Speaker 7: had broad bipartisan support, But we still could be talking
Speaker 7: about a shutdown in late September.
Speaker 6: And another votes.
Speaker 2: The Senate also passed this sweeping Russia sanctions bill yesterday
Speaker 2: that has the Senator of the late Senator Lindsay Graham's
Speaker 2: name on it, and we talked about.
Speaker 6: A little bit earlier. So it does a couple things.
Speaker 2: That allows the President to impose tariffs of up to
Speaker 2: one hundred percent on Russian energy importers. These are countries
Speaker 2: that are taking energy from Russia. But it also has
Speaker 2: some other less popular clauses in there, including it can
Speaker 2: give the president more flexibility to raise import taxes on
Speaker 2: other major economies, and it seems to give him the
Speaker 2: ability to unilaterally waive these sanctions if he decides they're
Speaker 2: not a good idea.
Speaker 6: So this did get a lot of support.
Speaker 2: But can you walk us through what's in this bill
Speaker 2: and how effective it's likely to be?
Speaker 8: Yeah, and this is really kind of a tricky one.
Speaker 8: Is there was you know, a kind of a classic.
Speaker 7: A cooperation of coming together of a bunch of different
Speaker 7: pieces something for everybody to like but also something for
Speaker 7: everybody to dislike.
Speaker 8: So it had these Russian.
Speaker 7: Sanctions, which are you know, very much something that both
Speaker 7: you know, sort of hawks on the Republican side as
Speaker 7: well as some Democrats wanted to see happen. But these
Speaker 7: sanctions come in the form of tariffs, which Democrats are
Speaker 7: not super pleased about, giving the President more authority when
Speaker 7: it comes to tariffs. This also embedded additional sanctions also
Speaker 7: on Iran and a raw onion oil producers to bolster
Speaker 7: some of the sanctions that have been coming from the
Speaker 7: Treasury Department and gives Congress a little bit more control
Speaker 7: over that. This is really kind of the strongest rebuke
Speaker 7: we've seen, you know, in terms of the Iran war
Speaker 7: coming from Congress. They've largely seated their power to the
Speaker 7: White House and Trump on this matter, but you know,
Speaker 7: it ultimately did get across the finish line. Part of
Speaker 7: that is because this was one of those centerpiece pieces
Speaker 7: of legislation that Lindsay Graham, who died just a couple
Speaker 7: of weeks ago, had wanted to get done. So this
Speaker 7: was really done in his legacy, and you know, made
Speaker 7: it through the process perhaps more quickly because you know,
Speaker 7: his friends were doing it in his name versus something
Speaker 7: that could have gotten bogged down by politics.
Speaker 5: Covering the waterfront here. Want to move on to the
Speaker 5: Federal Reserve. And the President had some comments on the
Speaker 5: FED when he sat down with Jake Sherman, of course,
Speaker 5: creature of Capitol Hill, who made his way to the
Speaker 5: White House to have a sit down with the President
Speaker 5: of the United States. He's with punch Bowl News, and
Speaker 5: let me just play a little bit about that about
Speaker 5: what he had to say about the Federal Reserve.
Speaker 6: Should wash Kevin worsher FED chair avoid a rate hike
Speaker 6: before the election?
Speaker 10: Well, it's up to him a little bit, but not completely.
Speaker 10: And he's got a board that's very political, right, the
Speaker 10: United States should pay the lowest interest rate in the
Speaker 10: entire world.
Speaker 6: So you think that he shouldn't high rates before the election, It's.
Speaker 10: Not totally up to him. It's up to a board.
Speaker 10: I think he's great. I won't be criticizing him, but
Speaker 10: I've said many times, you know, in the old days
Speaker 10: twenty twenty five years ago, called it the old days,
Speaker 10: if you announced good numbers, the interest rates went down
Speaker 10: because you were a better credit. Right makes sense? Right now,
Speaker 10: it's all be cocked. Now, it's all a different thing.
Speaker 10: If you announce great numbers, everybody's depressed because we have
Speaker 10: great numbers. They think what you're going to do is
Speaker 10: raise interest rates. But in the old days, when you
Speaker 10: announce great numbers, interest rates went down. So I want
Speaker 10: to go back to those days.
Speaker 5: The President. They're a ponting on monetary policy with Jake
Speaker 5: Sherman of punch Bowl. Lauren. Let me just ask you
Speaker 5: about something that kind of complimented this. There was this
Speaker 5: letter that landed last week. Dan Scavino, the head of
Speaker 5: the Personnel Office at the White House, sent a letter
Speaker 5: to Lisa Cook, the Fed Governor, on the heels of
Speaker 5: all of the travails that she's been through and the
Speaker 5: Supreme Court decision on her appointment, saying, effectively, she has
Speaker 5: to kind of respond to the allegations that have been
Speaker 5: levied against her with regard to alleged mor mortgage fraud
Speaker 5: here by mid August. If I'm not mistaken, where do
Speaker 5: things stand with that? What does that say about the
Speaker 5: White House's approach here to the independence of the feder Reserve.
Speaker 7: Melk was not giving up on his attempts to fire
Speaker 7: Lisa Cook, the Supreme Court earlier this summer said that
Speaker 7: when he went about it, he didn't do it the
Speaker 7: right way. So now we're seeing the White House try
Speaker 7: some different legal avenues to see if they might be
Speaker 7: able to oust her.
Speaker 8: You know, we heard Trump say there.
Speaker 7: Like, look, this isn't all up to Kevin worsh of
Speaker 7: course that's his hand picked chair at the Federal Reserve,
Speaker 7: but that there's a broader board here. So you're seeing
Speaker 7: the White House sort of pivot to seeing if they
Speaker 7: can pluck off other members of the board that they
Speaker 7: could then replace with people who'd be more open to
Speaker 7: the President's view of wanting to lower interest rates rather
Speaker 7: than raise them. Although you know, the President did get
Speaker 7: a little bit of you know, a boost perhaps in
Speaker 7: yesterday's jobs report, which while from sort of a top
Speaker 7: line perspective, was disappointing, and that you know, we saw
Speaker 7: some contraction in jobs, but it at least reduces some
Speaker 7: of the pressure on the Fed to raise rates. I
Speaker 7: don't know that's necessarily're sarily going to lead to a
Speaker 7: rate cut, but we see the White House kind of
Speaker 7: working all angles here to see if they're able to
Speaker 7: get the monetary policy that the president desires.
Speaker 2: And speaking of retreading old ideas, we also had this
Speaker 2: Trump birthright tourism executive order that came out this week
Speaker 2: in which the President seems to be trying to reimpose
Speaker 2: with the Supreme Court also struck down, making it restricting
Speaker 2: those who can qualify for birthright citizenship, including staff workers
Speaker 2: for foreign governments and babies of mothers who lie about
Speaker 2: their intentions for visiting the country while pregnant. But Laura,
Speaker 2: is there any way to enforce this?
Speaker 8: This is a huge question mark.
Speaker 7: This almost seems destined for legal challenges and perhaps yet
Speaker 7: again another Supreme Court challenge in the coming months, if
Speaker 7: not year. This is a you know, essentially, the White
Speaker 7: House lawyers have been working overdrive in the past couple
Speaker 7: of weeks to respond to some of those losses that
Speaker 7: Trump had in the Supreme Court earlier this summer to
Speaker 7: now get some new executive orders or new actions on
Speaker 7: the board here. But the birthright citizenship was sort of
Speaker 7: one of his most stinging losses and you know, looks
Speaker 7: from you know, because of the constitutional nature of the
Speaker 7: Fourteenth Amendment, there something that he's unlikely to have big
Speaker 7: legal successes on.
Speaker 5: Lord great to get chup with you. Thank you very
Speaker 5: much again, I said a lot to cover this morning
Speaker 5: and help.
Speaker 6: Us get at me.
Speaker 2: Gave Laura her own voterama. Thank you for us being
Speaker 2: so knowledgeable on all those topics. We appreciate a lot
Speaker 2: going on in a short period of time, Our.
Speaker 3: Deputy Washington Bureau Chief, stay with us for more on
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Speaker 5: Right after this, the next summit between Presidence Trump and
Speaker 5: she is scheduled to take place next month in Washington,
Speaker 5: and the agenda he's expected to send her on trade
Speaker 5: and technology.
Speaker 2: And for almost a decade, Evan Osnos is a Beijing
Speaker 2: based reporter. He's also the author of a book, Age
Speaker 2: of Ambition, Chasing Fortune, Truth and Faith in the New China.
Speaker 2: These days he's based in DC, but he recently took
Speaker 2: a reporting trip to China and a new piece for
Speaker 2: The New Yorker, he writes that many of those changes
Speaker 2: have taken place since twenty thirteen, and saying for a
Speaker 2: long time, China looked west for visions of the future.
Speaker 2: These days it's favoring its own.
Speaker 5: Its approach to AI is one illustration of that. Evan
Speaker 5: Osnos is a staff writer for The New Yorker and
Speaker 5: he joins us Now on this Saturday, Evan, I want
Speaker 5: to start with AI if I could, because I'm going
Speaker 5: to paraphrase you here. You'll forgive me for doing that.
Speaker 5: But you highlight the distinction between the way that China
Speaker 5: approaches AI and the way that the US does. And
Speaker 5: I think what you sort of indicate is that in
Speaker 5: the US the debate is about sort of advanced general intelligence,
Speaker 5: sort of what that might mean for our society as
Speaker 5: a whole. It is a much more kind of commercially
Speaker 5: focused aspiration in China than it is here in the US.
Speaker 11: It is, Yeah, the conversation in China is about how
Speaker 11: to get it out as fast as possible, as far
Speaker 11: as possible. And they're not just thinking about how do
Speaker 11: we get it into Chinese factories, but also how do
Speaker 11: we get it into Africa, Central Asia, Latin America. And
Speaker 11: so you have a very different conversation when you're going
Speaker 11: around as I did, visiting Chinese factories or going to
Speaker 11: AI consultancies that are looking at ways of bringing this
Speaker 11: into very old fashioned factories. You know, there's not a
Speaker 11: whole lot of imaginings about, you know, a sci fi future,
Speaker 11: even though there are elements of that beginning to present
Speaker 11: themselves in the present. It's really about, all right, how
Speaker 11: do we go into a brewery, for instance, that's a
Speaker 11: real example, and say how do we take beer production
Speaker 11: and put it into the twenty first century. So it
Speaker 11: is quite striking when you're on the ground these days
Speaker 11: about how AI and other technologies feel like they are
Speaker 11: already part of life.
Speaker 2: And it seems to me the energy aspect is a
Speaker 2: huge part of that. We were talking earlier with Jokolin
Speaker 2: from Bank of America talking about the spike we saw
Speaker 2: in solar socks week, and he said, part of the
Speaker 2: reason is what we're seeing in the Gulf and this
Speaker 2: energy deman and China has been really out ahead on
Speaker 2: energy diversity and we're still seeing this mysterious drop in
Speaker 2: oil imports from China? Is this Are they more able
Speaker 2: to throw their weight behind this and backbuild the infrastructure
Speaker 2: because of just the way they are structured with their government.
Speaker 2: They can long term plan in a way that a
Speaker 2: democracy doesn't have to because we change presidents possibly every
Speaker 2: four years.
Speaker 11: Yeah, this is both the blessing and the curse of
Speaker 11: having a centrally planned system. You know, the blessing, of course,
Speaker 11: is when you decide you're all in on all kinds
Speaker 11: of energy, as they have over the course of the
Speaker 11: last generation. They've gone from producing, you know, sof league
Speaker 11: like half as much energy as the United States, to
Speaker 11: producing now much more and actually in many cases it's cheaper.
Speaker 11: This is partly because they've been able to say from
Speaker 11: the top, this is what we're doing, and then that
Speaker 11: filters down through the system, even down into the localities
Speaker 11: where you get municipal governments that are even on the
Speaker 11: individual level, you have politicians in the Chinese system competing
Speaker 11: for promotions by saying, look, we are investing in solar,
Speaker 11: we're investing in nuclear, whatever it is. The downside, of course,
Speaker 11: is that when they go off of true north by
Speaker 11: a few degrees and end up on an engineering project
Speaker 11: that turns out to be either out of step with
Speaker 11: market demands or in some cases, like the one child
Speaker 11: policy which I talk about in this piece, something that
Speaker 11: produces a huge range of negative economic consequences, then it's
Speaker 11: very hard to shift that battleship before it can cause
Speaker 11: more damage. So what we're seeing right now is that
Speaker 11: this is the moment when those energy investments have paid off,
Speaker 11: and it's been very helpful for them.
Speaker 5: Hevin, you can count me among those who have been
Speaker 5: introduced to the New China through your book and through
Speaker 5: your writing. And I just wondered if you could talk
Speaker 5: a bit about what it was like to return there
Speaker 5: on this reporting trip. I think one of the things
Speaker 5: you observe is kind of the quiet of figing in
Speaker 5: a way that it wasn't before. Because there are so
Speaker 5: many electric vehicle now, the means of transportation has changed.
Speaker 5: The means of commerce has changed as well. The storefronts
Speaker 5: are less crowded because people are buying things with apps
Speaker 5: and using delivery services. How different is the new China
Speaker 5: today than the one that you wrote about now, you know,
Speaker 5: more than a decade ago.
Speaker 11: It's very interesting to see it up close now. I mean,
Speaker 11: having lived there for all these years, you kind of
Speaker 11: absorb a certain street level sense of what China is.
Speaker 11: And certainly in the first decade of this century, Beijing
Speaker 11: was a kind of a cacafe in as place. It
Speaker 11: was a noisy place, and I mean that in all
Speaker 11: senses of the word. You know, it wasn't just that
Speaker 11: the cars were noisy, but also there was a real
Speaker 11: contest of ideas going on, and you would also just
Speaker 11: go into the alleys. I lived in a Hutong house,
Speaker 11: and so it was you never quite knew what was
Speaker 11: going to be opening up. There were businesses that would open,
Speaker 11: they'd be gone in a few months, or something else
Speaker 11: would be built in its place. Today there is a
Speaker 11: much more distinct feeling of the place that is run
Speaker 11: from the top, and so on the one hand, you
Speaker 11: get this feel that it is quite literally quieter because
Speaker 11: of electric vehicles, but then you also get the feeling
Speaker 11: that some of that hive of activity that was happening
Speaker 11: in the margins, you know, the smaller communities of artists
Speaker 11: or ideas that were bubbling up, those have been silenced
Speaker 11: in some ways, and that is a feeling of that
Speaker 11: feels like a loss.
Speaker 8: And it also you do get the feeling though, as.
Speaker 11: You know, I was talking to somebody from Singapore not
Speaker 11: too long ago, and he said about Beijing. He said,
Speaker 11: when I go there, it feels to me like it
Speaker 11: now out Singapore's Singapore, meaning that it has that sense
Speaker 11: of orderliness, But then there is also that bit of sterility,
Speaker 11: and that's a getting those two ideas into one sentence
Speaker 11: is part of the reason why I write a long
Speaker 11: piece of this kind, to try to give people as
Speaker 11: much a feel as I can what it's like on
Speaker 11: the ground.
Speaker 2: You also wrote which I thought was interesting. Chinese leaders
Speaker 2: seem to be betting that by speeding toward the future,
Speaker 2: they can outrun the mistakes of the recent past. You
Speaker 2: mentioned the one child policy. I'm wondering which other ones
Speaker 2: come to mind and what they're trying to reverse course on.
Speaker 11: One of the things they're trying to address, of course,
Speaker 11: is the property crash. Since twenty twenty one, we've all
Speaker 11: been living through the effects of that. Economically, there are
Speaker 11: now just to put a fine point on it, there
Speaker 11: are now as many vacant homes in China, apartments and villas,
Speaker 11: as there would be to house the entire population of Russia.
Speaker 11: So you have this enormous overhang from that property crash,
Speaker 11: and they're saying, look, if we can more or less
Speaker 11: catapult ourselves into a new phase of economic history, then
Speaker 11: perhaps we can light a fire again under people, get
Speaker 11: them feeling like they're no longer, as the saying goes
Speaker 11: among young Chinese, no longer looking to lie flat. Maybe
Speaker 11: get people to start feeling more energized about the economy
Speaker 11: and about their own opportunities. That's really the core of it, guys,
Speaker 11: I think is this feeling of can you reignite that
Speaker 11: feeling of opportunit tunity. That's the thing that was running
Speaker 11: through Age of Ambition when I wrote about the China
Speaker 11: of the twenty tens. And there are moments, there are
Speaker 11: little glimpses when you go to places in China these
Speaker 11: days and you see this dynamic frontier of the new
Speaker 11: economy that is happening. But then when you also talk
Speaker 11: to people who have felt like those opportunities are only
Speaker 11: for a privileged view, and they say, look, I'm not
Speaker 11: equipped for the AI economy. I'm not equipped for this
Speaker 11: new advanced manufacturing generation. Where do I fit in? And
Speaker 11: the irony is, of course, it's not a conversation that's
Speaker 11: all that different from one of the ones we're beginning
Speaker 11: to have here in the United States.
Speaker 8: So there's something to it.
Speaker 11: How do you make sure that many people feel a
Speaker 11: sense of agency in the new AI era?
Speaker 5: In the minute we have left, I want to ask
Speaker 5: you about what I found is kind of the most
Speaker 5: important part of the peace to my mind, that's in
Speaker 5: my minute, I think that, you know, there are a
Speaker 5: lot of kind of graybeards talking about political theory and
Speaker 5: the American order waning and what might rise in its place.
Speaker 5: And you write, spend enough time in Beijing and Washington
Speaker 5: these days, and the rivalry looks less like a clash
Speaker 5: of competing systems than a race between small oligarchic groups,
Speaker 5: tight circles of men with immen's power over everyone else's future.
Speaker 5: Talk a bit more about that, if you wouldn't.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it is a very noticeable feeling. After I've been
Speaker 11: working on this for a long time, I came away
Speaker 11: with the sense that this is the dark matter, the
Speaker 11: piece that doesn't get described enough and as clearly, which
Speaker 11: is that there is a feeling, both in the United
Speaker 11: States and in China that these enormous decisions about what
Speaker 11: role will these new technologies play in our economies, in
Speaker 11: our private lives, in our own sense of how we
Speaker 11: educate our kids and how to prepare them for the future,
Speaker 11: it doesn't feel like we have a hand in those decisions,
Speaker 11: and that creates an enormous sense of uncertainty. And I
Speaker 11: heard this not only from regular people on the street
Speaker 11: in you know, you could do that in the US,
Speaker 11: but even from some AI executives in Beijing who said, look,
Speaker 11: I too have these questions, how should I educate my
Speaker 11: kids to participate in the future. In some ways, there
Speaker 11: is a point of commonality here, which is about how
Speaker 11: will these two big important countries engaye AI in a
Speaker 11: way that allows their regular citizens to feel as if
Speaker 11: something is happening with their involvement rather than happening to them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's always great to speak with you. Thank
Speaker 5: you very much. As seven OUs nos he's a staff
Speaker 5: writer at The New Yorker. His new piece out in
Speaker 5: this week's issue. Thank you very much, EEV. Appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Stay with us for more on bloomberg this weekend.
Speaker 5: Right after this, Welcome back to Bloomberd this weekend. I'm
Speaker 5: David Gerra with Lisa Matteo and Christina Raffini.
Speaker 6: All Right, David Gera, how often have you worn camouflage?
Speaker 5: Approximately zero times in my life.
Speaker 6: That surprises me zero percent.
Speaker 2: All right, So, a very specific type of camo that
Speaker 2: you usually see in the deep woods is now getting
Speaker 2: kind of a resurgence, and you're seeing it on runways
Speaker 2: and city street. It's camouflage is getting a surge, and
Speaker 2: it's getting licensing deals with some major brands. So here
Speaker 2: to explain what exactly this is and why it's happening
Speaker 2: is Bloomberg pursuits Madison Derbyshire, who has come with I believe.
Speaker 2: So when I read this and it said camo, I
Speaker 2: thought like fatigue camo, But that's not quite it was.
Speaker 6: That was what we did in like the early ots.
Speaker 6: But this is a different It is like deep woods camo,
Speaker 6: this stepwoods camo. We call it hunting camouflage.
Speaker 12: Okay, And when I started reporting the story, I didn't
Speaker 12: actually know there was much of a difference. But it
Speaker 12: turns out it's an entirely different category of camo, and
Speaker 12: it's dominated by a few very large companies in the
Speaker 12: Deep South. And I kind of I didn't even know
Speaker 12: to be looking for it until I had to write
Speaker 12: a story last year about hunting that required me to
Speaker 12: buy an outfit. Bloomberg bought me this beautiful jacket so
Speaker 12: that I could do the story, and I started wearing
Speaker 12: it around New York City.
Speaker 6: You could see it's got like leaves and seeks on it.
Speaker 12: I started wearing it around New York City and people
Speaker 12: would stop me on the street and me where I
Speaker 12: had got my jacket?
Speaker 6: What designer was it?
Speaker 12: And I had to tell them it was Bass Pro
Speaker 12: Shop from Harlingen, Texas. But it cost fifteen dollars. But
Speaker 12: it was easily the most complimented item of clothing in
Speaker 12: my wardrobe. And I started to wonder, like why were
Speaker 12: people so interested in the style? And then I started
Speaker 12: seeing it everywhere in New York City.
Speaker 6: I wore the wrong one.
Speaker 4: I wore the military fatigue camo. Is there a right
Speaker 4: or a wrong way to wear it?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 6: Can I can? I?
Speaker 7: Can?
Speaker 6: I don that the Yankee hat with the this is
Speaker 6: a lot of camo? Does this work? I think it works?
Speaker 6: How do you wear camo the right way?
Speaker 2: I think she's being very.
Speaker 12: I think it works. But they mean very different things.
Speaker 12: So that green hunting or this green camo the ove
Speaker 12: on your hat was essentially it was the only camo
Speaker 12: that until the mid eighties existed because it was created
Speaker 12: essentially for America's last foreign war, which was Vietnam. But
Speaker 12: hunters in the American South were frustrated that the camo
Speaker 12: didn't really work with the topography of the region, and
Speaker 12: they were still finding themselves like very visible to the
Speaker 12: animals that they wanted to hunt.
Speaker 6: Like turkeys. So there were.
Speaker 12: Two kind of major players in this, one named Toxi
Speaker 12: Hayes and the others Bill Jorden, and they decided to
Speaker 12: design their own camo and kind of two separate camo empires,
Speaker 12: one called Real Tree, one called Massy Oak, in order
Speaker 12: to create hunting camo that was a little bit more
Speaker 12: appropriate for the topography of America, and that camo has
Speaker 12: not been popular in fashion until very recently. Like this
Speaker 12: camo was a very big part of the anti Vietnam
Speaker 12: War protest. It's something that you would see in Abercrombie
Speaker 12: and Fitch. I know that I wore it, like my
Speaker 12: entire early adolescents, I wore cargo pants. But to a
Speaker 12: lot of people, this camo really suggests military, it suggests
Speaker 12: like aggression.
Speaker 6: It's very masculine.
Speaker 12: And there's something that's really interesting happening with the hunting
Speaker 12: camo is that the associations people have with this pattern
Speaker 12: tend to be very regional. So people who hunt, people
Speaker 12: are from the South will be very familiar with this pattern.
Speaker 12: But until the last five years, you really didn't see
Speaker 12: it that often In New York.
Speaker 5: Let me ask you about that. So you hear, are
Speaker 5: the trendsetter going to best pro shops and coming to
Speaker 5: New York City wearing this trendsetter? You know, you asked
Speaker 5: if I've ever weren't? No, But I grew up in
Speaker 5: the South, so it is recognizable to me. When and
Speaker 5: how did it make the leap to something that folks
Speaker 5: who are in New York, there'd be a cognizant to
Speaker 5: New York who would recognize what this is.
Speaker 12: American style, rural Southern style has kind of become a
Speaker 12: ubiquitous aesthetic for Americana right now. You see, cowboy boots
Speaker 12: have had this major boom. Carhart jackets are everywhere in Williamsburg.
Speaker 8: As well as the South.
Speaker 5: Yeah and Brooklyn.
Speaker 12: Yeah, there's nowhere you can go where men do not
Speaker 12: want to wear a vintage Carhart jacket. Which when I
Speaker 12: was growing up, like I have a lot of family
Speaker 12: in the Deep South, that was considered work where my
Speaker 12: grandfather used to call it clothes for honest labor. Interesting,
Speaker 12: you bought them in the tractor's supply. They were not
Speaker 12: sold on high streets of Paris.
Speaker 6: They are now.
Speaker 12: But what people are really looking for was this kind
Speaker 12: of vintage aesthetics, So they started buying the vintage car
Speaker 12: hert that looked like they had been worn in, like
Speaker 12: worked in, And the kind of logical next step for
Speaker 12: that was hunting camera because it has this very American.
Speaker 6: Very rural association.
Speaker 12: But people, one of the really interesting things about this
Speaker 12: moment is people are buying used hunting clothes, so things
Speaker 12: that have been really broken in are being worn by
Speaker 12: men who have never hunted a turkey.
Speaker 6: In their lives.
Speaker 2: The person I was going to ask is, like, my
Speaker 2: issue with the card is someone else who grew up
Speaker 2: with people actually wearing these for work? Is like your
Speaker 2: couse playing a working American. It's giving like Marie Antoinette
Speaker 2: playing milkmaid, Like is there something kind of off about
Speaker 2: these guys who've never done this, you know, trying to
Speaker 2: emulate this or is that just fashion and just kind
Speaker 2: of part of the fun.
Speaker 6: I think it's both.
Speaker 12: It's it is fashion. People want to wear things that
Speaker 12: suggest an identity that they want to be a part of,
Speaker 12: Like denim and workwhear really entered fashion in the seventies
Speaker 12: and eighties, when like blue jeans were not a thing
Speaker 12: right before they came into fashion because people wanted to
Speaker 12: wear things that suggested blue collar. They want because it
Speaker 12: was seen as like more vera or more masculine.
Speaker 6: And you see kind of the same thing coming into play.
Speaker 12: We're in this moment where traditional masculinity is kind of
Speaker 12: politically ascendant, and so there are people who are unironically
Speaker 12: wearing these clothes, these articles of clothing because that's what
Speaker 12: they think an American man looks like. And then there
Speaker 12: are people who might be wearing it, like the Balenciaga
Speaker 12: jacket that kind of fashion loves irony, right, and so
Speaker 12: love they want to suggest these things, and there is
Speaker 12: something a little ironic about paying twenty six hundred dollars
Speaker 12: or twenty seven hundred dollars for a hunting jacket that
Speaker 12: you can get at basket pro shops for fifteen dollars, right.
Speaker 12: So it is really interesting the way that fashion takes
Speaker 12: these controversial images and they ironize them and also to
Speaker 12: some people, Like one of the things I think we
Speaker 12: don't talk about enough is there's just not them any
Speaker 12: patterns that men feel like they can wear that are
Speaker 12: culturally acceptable for men to wear, that fit with traditional
Speaker 12: ideas of masculinity. You know, they don't really have animal
Speaker 12: prints the way that women do. They don't really have
Speaker 12: florals unless they're feeling particularly bold. Maybe they have stripes,
Speaker 12: and camo is one of those things that men really
Speaker 12: gravity towards, and then women gravitate towards to.
Speaker 6: Steal from the men.
Speaker 5: Madison, thank you very.
Speaker 12: Much, Thanks so much for having me. This is really fun.
Speaker 4: Stay with us for more on Bloomberg this weekend.
Speaker 2: Right after this, all right, welcome back to Bloomberg this
Speaker 2: Weekend or BT Doves. I'm Christine Raffini with David Gera
Speaker 2: who's not gonna argue with me about still Thinking Dog.
Speaker 2: I think Lisa is about to tell us about one
Speaker 2: hundred hot Dog, as well as other stories you might
Speaker 2: have missed this week.
Speaker 5: Fast becoming an obsession?
Speaker 6: Really are you starting with us? Are you starting with
Speaker 6: something else? I'm going to start and slow. We're going
Speaker 6: to please, We're going to get in.
Speaker 5: We're going to.
Speaker 4: Fill the anticipation for the hot time.
Speaker 5: It's high. Everyone can't wait.
Speaker 6: They can't.
Speaker 5: I really can't stop talking about it.
Speaker 6: We have mother is that place speaks of David doesn't anymore?
Speaker 6: Preseason football? Right, my gosh?
Speaker 7: We are?
Speaker 4: Are we starting to talk about the preseason football. Okay,
Speaker 4: so Bloomberg Weekend has a story out sports fans stare
Speaker 4: down two thousand dollars streaming bill to follow That is.
Speaker 5: Twenty hundred dollars hot dogs by.
Speaker 6: The way out of control.
Speaker 4: As David Gerr just is the reason why these pro
Speaker 4: leagues are just signing these deals with multiple services, right
Speaker 4: because you're sitting there trying to watch the.
Speaker 6: Game and you're like, where is it playing? Is it
Speaker 6: on the worst time? Is it on this? Is it
Speaker 6: on Peacock? Is it on where?
Speaker 2: I don't know how hard this was, because we know
Speaker 2: I don't watch the sports ball, but when I did
Speaker 2: actually try to wash the World Cup, the only place
Speaker 2: I could find it on the eighteen streaming services I
Speaker 2: get was like Univision through NBC. I watched it in Spanish.
Speaker 6: You did, oh, okay, it was really hard. I consider
Speaker 6: it Spans. But I'm not going to keep going. Let
Speaker 6: me let me break down how the two thousand comes out.
Speaker 4: Okay, So these are for people who let's say you're
Speaker 4: you're from upstate New York and you move to Florida,
Speaker 4: but you want to watch your New York teams.
Speaker 6: Okay, here's what you got to do.
Speaker 4: You have to pay one hundred and thirty dollars a
Speaker 4: year for MLB to watch Yankees.
Speaker 6: Maybe Okay, then you.
Speaker 4: Have to subscribe to ESPN Plus during hockey season to
Speaker 4: watch the Savers. You have to subscribe to another five
Speaker 4: streaming services to make sure you get every Buffalo Bills
Speaker 4: game because they're all in different streaming services.
Speaker 5: Out of control, I'm telling you, out of control.
Speaker 6: I know we all.
Speaker 2: Hated cable, but like, can we just go back to cable?
Speaker 2: It really was a better deal.
Speaker 4: And I have cable and you still can't watch because
Speaker 4: some are like exclusive to these services.
Speaker 5: So it's enough to make you go to a sports
Speaker 5: bar where you can watch it on TV no matter what.
Speaker 5: But no, it's true. And actually so I have a
Speaker 5: son who's a Yankees fan. It's quite hard because games
Speaker 5: will be blocked out as well. You can't your local
Speaker 5: and you.
Speaker 6: Can watch really hit the blackout.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's designed to infuriate, it is. What's else?
Speaker 6: You got a cooking shows?
Speaker 5: Shows? Am I?
Speaker 6: Really?
Speaker 2: Am?
Speaker 12: I do?
Speaker 6: I love watching them? Okay, so guess who has one?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: A Secretary of Health Human Services are FK.
Speaker 6: Junior?
Speaker 12: High.
Speaker 5: I did not know this.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 2: Thing I like about cooking shows is it's not politics, Lisa.
Speaker 5: That was a radical turn. Okay, he's got a show.
Speaker 4: The Washington Post. So the show is on, it's on YouTube.
Speaker 4: The reviews are out. This one's from the Washington Post.
Speaker 4: RFK Junior's Cooking Show is a rich person's solution to
Speaker 4: a poor person's problem.
Speaker 6: Okay. So the show is basically based on.
Speaker 4: This premise that, yes, America's diet is horrible. Right, So
Speaker 4: he has a special celebrity chef each time who goes
Speaker 4: along with him, and they want to hear it is
Speaker 4: how to cook delicious, nutritious meals with real ingredients at
Speaker 4: affordable prices.
Speaker 6: So that's the premise of it. Premise it is. But
Speaker 6: here's the problem that the.
Speaker 4: Washington Post found is that in an episode he goes
Speaker 4: through salmon cakes, right, how to make it the arugula
Speaker 4: salad with it, and he says the recipe is going
Speaker 4: to work for about four dollars and ninety one cents.
Speaker 4: The problem is that that's the price person serve if
Speaker 4: you want a little arugula, you know, if you don't
Speaker 4: want to buy the whole container of mayonnaise, avocado lenaise,
Speaker 4: So it doesn't take that at consideration. They say it
Speaker 4: really comes out to like seventy three dollars and forty
Speaker 4: six that's a person, So that's really yeah, So it's.
Speaker 6: A big difference if you think of it.
Speaker 2: Also, like economies of scale when you're cooking for a family,
Speaker 2: like even as a single person who tries to cook,
Speaker 2: like sometimes it just doesn't save you that much money
Speaker 2: because you can't eat it fast enough, you can't make enough,
Speaker 2: and you have to buy a giant thing of a
Speaker 2: regular or giant thing of olive oil. Like if you
Speaker 2: don't have that stuff in your house, it's really expensive.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Second show here by a Cabinet secretary Sean Duffy
Speaker 5: had that show travel show with this family. But it's
Speaker 5: not out yet. Nobody knows where it is, so stay tuned, WI.
Speaker 6: Give you a untill they miss that.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Too?
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, you want to get to the hot dog?
Speaker 6: Can we do it?
Speaker 5: We do it?
Speaker 6: Let's do it?
Speaker 4: Why Wall Street Turtle has it out? You got to
Speaker 4: see the Bigtures The Rise of the one hundred dollars
Speaker 4: hot Dog?
Speaker 6: Is that cave if you're listening on radio. There is
Speaker 6: cave are on a hot dog.
Speaker 4: Okay, this is we have a rich Man's one dollars glitzy,
Speaker 4: okay and glitzen. It has marscapone thirty grandcaviar, twenty four
Speaker 4: carrot edible gold flakes and.
Speaker 6: It's served on a fresh croissant bun.
Speaker 4: And yes, there is a hot dog included in that vodka.
Speaker 5: That had gold flakes and a gold girl.
Speaker 6: It was a college face. What's a classic?
Speaker 5: Say? I continue to derail this segment. I'm just going
Speaker 5: to take us down that past. Where can I get
Speaker 5: these hot dogs?
Speaker 4: You can get this, okay, So there's one at breckinrich
Speaker 4: Ski Sea Resort right.
Speaker 6: The tower stone while you were announced.
Speaker 4: Instead of the tower voicers, you can get a tower
Speaker 4: of hot dogs for sixty dollars.
Speaker 5: Okay, sixty dollars.
Speaker 6: And instead of a foot long, how about a two
Speaker 6: foot long?
Speaker 5: Hello nineteen fun All right, we.
Speaker 6: Are going off the rail. It's forty five dollars of course,
Speaker 6: field and done for Let's move on.
Speaker 5: Why is it all in Colorado?
Speaker 2: Because I hate that because my home state likes to
Speaker 2: eat things outside and I don't know livestock.
Speaker 6: There's no there's always four. Let's hit it.
Speaker 4: Okay, So private colleges are admitting more students who didn't apply.
Speaker 6: This isn't blant.
Speaker 4: This is actually interesting because I just met my daughter
Speaker 4: received a letter from a college she never applied for
Speaker 4: and said that she got an eighteen thousand scholarship to
Speaker 4: So this is happening.
Speaker 6: Here's the reason why.
Speaker 4: Okay, So the common app this is where parents kind
Speaker 4: of sign on and you can click, and it makes
Speaker 4: applying to.
Speaker 6: Schools super easy.
Speaker 4: But they're now doing they're participating in a direct admission
Speaker 4: and so what that means is that, you know, kids
Speaker 4: could just start getting these admitted into these colleges that
Speaker 4: never applied for. And so what it's doing, they're saying,
Speaker 4: it's opening up to a more diverse crowd. It's helping
Speaker 4: because all these colleges are fighting to get students to
Speaker 4: apply and the private ones are closing down a lot.
Speaker 4: So it's just a way to kind of increase their enrollment.
Speaker 4: And and students are saying it's opening up their eyes
Speaker 4: to the scholarships that are.
Speaker 2: That's TCU is you take the PSAT in those colleges,
Speaker 2: it's not an offer, but they will try to recruit you.
Speaker 2: And I did get a letter from a school I've
Speaker 2: never heard of and up going there because they give
Speaker 2: me money.
Speaker 6: So it's kind of a cool thing.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 5: It is it is.
Speaker 6: I like that more than a hundred dog.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Lisa with bt W.
Speaker 4: Stay with us for more on Bloomberg this weekend. Right
Speaker 4: after this, well, time for.
Speaker 5: One of my favorite moments in the show, the pointed
Speaker 5: news quiz News Now it's sas I've got my chips
Speaker 5: are right on the table in front of me. Christina
Speaker 5: counting for is up as well. Lisa Matteo here.
Speaker 6: Is with where's the week?
Speaker 5: The questions what do you have?
Speaker 6: Questions?
Speaker 4: Okay, for those playing at home, here's how it works. Okay,
Speaker 4: so they each have thirty ships in front of their okay,
Speaker 4: get very very tall, and what they will do is
Speaker 4: they will place their bets on each category to figure
Speaker 4: out you know, if you feel like you're confident about
Speaker 4: the first category, you might want to put all your
Speaker 4: chips on there, or maybe you might want to not
Speaker 4: put something on the second category category because you're like, hey,
Speaker 4: I don't think I know enough about about it, so
Speaker 4: let's get right to it. Okay, you're ready to play along,
Speaker 4: I'm ready to play your three categories.
Speaker 6: Here we go.
Speaker 4: The first is trade wars, yes, the second is malls
Speaker 4: very good, and the third is outbreaks.
Speaker 6: So what did you know? The most of it?
Speaker 2: Quite running the gambit there.
Speaker 5: You know, I haven't used the Raffini strategy in recent weeks.
Speaker 5: It has worked to my advantage, but Today'm going to
Speaker 5: lean on it. I'm going to go ten on each
Speaker 5: ten on each category.
Speaker 2: I'm also going to ten on each Lisa, look at me.
Speaker 2: If you let him cheat this week, I will follow
Speaker 2: you to your car.
Speaker 6: Go trade wars here, here's your question.
Speaker 4: In a retaliatory move, China is limiting exports to the
Speaker 4: US of what tech product commonly made by DG I.
Speaker 6: So what is the d J I? Sorry, d J.
Speaker 5: I limiting exports to the US of what tech product
Speaker 5: commonly made by d J I?
Speaker 6: What is this product? We need a hint? No, we
Speaker 6: do not know. We do not We do not need
Speaker 6: a hint.
Speaker 5: All right, I rode chips.
Speaker 6: Micro chips.
Speaker 4: No picture, You are correct, I know. So President and
Speaker 4: Piggy scheduled to meet with Donald Trump in the US
Speaker 4: next month. They agreed to build this relationship for constructive
Speaker 4: strategic stability.
Speaker 6: Yes, so yeah, Christina is up.
Speaker 2: David Gray also make very good wireless microphones.
Speaker 6: A lot of podcasters here, d J.
Speaker 2: I yeah, those will pip on ones that are the Square,
Speaker 2: those are DJ Mix.
Speaker 6: They're very good.
Speaker 5: Do we use those?
Speaker 2: Are these podcast This is more like if you're like a.
Speaker 6: YouTuber, the very popular.
Speaker 5: Not an endorsement, not a not aid endorsement, not at all.
Speaker 6: All right, all right, are you ready for malls?
Speaker 5: I feel sad.
Speaker 2: I feel good about this category, Christina, You're gonna get this?
Speaker 6: Okakay?
Speaker 4: Which Edgy American mall staple is being sold to the
Speaker 4: parent company of Spencer's and Spirit Halloween.
Speaker 6: Spencer Edgy store Spencer.
Speaker 4: Okay, but it's being sold to the parent company of Spencer's.
Speaker 6: Gosh, I remember that.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say something, but I don't want to
Speaker 2: give him a hint again.
Speaker 6: Like I did last week. So I'm gonna wait.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna wait, come on, Okay, all right, Edgy mall
Speaker 4: staple an edgy store there, that's not Edgy?
Speaker 6: What are you talking? If this is the place David
Speaker 6: Girl has never shopped in his life, I believe it
Speaker 6: a hot hot topic, Hot topic and Spencer's were always
Speaker 6: next to each other.
Speaker 5: What is hot topic?
Speaker 6: I'm sorry? What is hot topic? I like goth, a
Speaker 6: little bit goth? Would you say right?
Speaker 13: It is?
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 2: If you were an aspiring goth in Colorado Springs, Colorado
Speaker 2: who went to Catholic school and had to wear uniforms,
Speaker 2: all you wanted in life was to dress and all
Speaker 2: the things your mother wouldn't let you buy it high.
Speaker 5: If any raffinis are watching the program, I want to
Speaker 5: send in photographs of that era in your life, which
Speaker 5: may or may not be shown on era.
Speaker 2: None of their affinies are watching, they can't do that
Speaker 2: would be okay.
Speaker 6: They're gonna text my brother. Oh lord, okay, David Gura.
Speaker 6: I have twenty tips in front of me and you've
Speaker 6: got ten there. Yeah, you led me all these little
Speaker 6: piles I have. Let's come into outbreak.
Speaker 5: It's the summer.
Speaker 6: Phil Bristoke over this morning. Okay, I think you're going
Speaker 6: to get this one. I'm not sure about. Okay, okay. Outbreaks?
Speaker 4: Which food is being blamed for a salmonella outbreak across
Speaker 4: twenty seven states? Varieties include T, A, M, and Goliath.
Speaker 4: So what food a salmonella outbreak.
Speaker 5: Gosh, I'm not.
Speaker 6: Talking about cyclospora vegetable. I can come up with us
Speaker 6: that one. What food is with it?
Speaker 5: Oh, it's a type of food, yes, the type of
Speaker 5: food I wrote tomatoes no, which I know is not right.
Speaker 6: No, jalapeno I love so much. That's yeah.
Speaker 4: I feel like we're down for like sweet green it
Speaker 4: was it was a it's a pretty bad time.
Speaker 6: So what can we eat is pretty bad? What can
Speaker 6: you eat? I know you can't let it?
Speaker 5: Have you had the churiedo? What is it? There's has
Speaker 5: no lettuce and maybe nolopenos in it as well.
Speaker 6: All right, guys, we're not doing David Kerr, I think
Speaker 6: you got that wrong. Yeah, I'm sorry. So you have
Speaker 6: how many ships you have?
Speaker 5: Got the bonuses and all?
Speaker 2: No, it is not an all in nothing situation at
Speaker 2: least the.
Speaker 5: Rules bonus bonus round. We always go all in?
Speaker 6: Is aviation okay, I always go all in.
Speaker 4: Brazil is investing in Macauba okay, hoping it will become
Speaker 4: a source of sustainable aviation fuel.
Speaker 13: What is mab and you sell? I hope I said
Speaker 13: that like macaba and are dancing with one another Brazilian.
Speaker 6: Yes, Brazilian dance.
Speaker 5: I don't know. It might be a aviation fuel.
Speaker 6: What is this?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 6: I did that could be used for aviation? But I
Speaker 6: got it oil? Nope, sorry, it's fruit.
Speaker 5: And hold on.
Speaker 4: Yes, it grows on palm trees. Okay, Brazil is investing
Speaker 4: three billion dollars palm.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why I couldn't remember. But you had the
Speaker 6: palm oil. But it doesn't look like a fruit. I
Speaker 6: saw this article.
Speaker 4: I thought it was an eventually, yeah, and they're trying
Speaker 4: to modify to become like larger oil, safer to handle
Speaker 4: because it has thorns on it and it's hard to handle,
Speaker 4: hard to harvest. So yes, So that means Christina is
Speaker 4: our champion. And you know what you win? You have
Speaker 4: a price today came jacket from our camel from.
Speaker 6: Our colleage segment. All right, I'm going to disappear here.
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