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Speaker 1: This meeting is gonna be about all the barking that

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Speaker 2: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodunks podcast

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Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, October fifth. Jeez skeets

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Speaker 2: and joining us here as always, we got Tas Mellis. Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 2: Hey Tassy, we got the beard in one. Trey Kirby

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Speaker 2: hel Hey, the international man of Mystery, taking it to

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Speaker 2: because we got so many great questions. But we start

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Speaker 2: with Game three, Trey Kirby's fired up. I know that

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler's big night helps the Heat cut the Lakers

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Speaker 2: Finals lead to two to one. Jimmy Butler forty points,

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Speaker 2: eleven boards, thirteen assists. What a game task from Jimmy

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler got Lebron. That's all that matters in this game.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if the Lakers win the next two games.

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Speaker 3: If this goes the way of Alan Iverson walking over

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Speaker 3: Tylo and it's four to one, doesn't matter. Jimmy can

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Speaker 3: go to his grave saying I beat Lebron. And especially

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Speaker 3: because it was like a point guard versus point guard

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Speaker 3: one on one performance, Jimmy would play more point guard

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Speaker 3: in this game, shouting things out, commanding the offense, really

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Speaker 3: making things happen without gore On Dragic out there more

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Speaker 3: than I've ever seen in his career. This was the

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Speaker 3: best game of his career and he had it against

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Speaker 3: Lebron James. That's all that matters. Really, that's all that counts.

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Speaker 3: The Lakers lost Game three the Denver Nuggets series last round.

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Speaker 3: It sure feels like they can come back and dominate

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Speaker 3: and Anthony Davis had nine shots and he were packing

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Speaker 3: the paint so much kudos to Eric Spolstra. Lebron was

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Speaker 3: giving the ball away. There's a lot of reasons why

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Speaker 3: the Lakers lost this game, but in the end, all

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Speaker 3: we should be talking about for at least eight to

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Speaker 3: nine minutes and Butler's stories to his kids and his grandkids,

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Speaker 3: his great can kids hopefully will be about that one

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Speaker 3: time he got Lebron and pulled the chair on him

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Speaker 3: and was going at him, and Lebron didn't want to

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Speaker 3: guard out him. At the end, he was on Umn

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Speaker 3: and took took those switches gleefully and jumped on somebody

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Speaker 3: else and let markif Morris or Ksep or whoever guard Jimmy.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy was a killer. That's it all we gotta say.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy did everything for this team.

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Speaker 2: Trey, you must have been beam in watching this game.

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Speaker 2: He was doing it all. Yeah, we'll talk to me, man.

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Speaker 4: I just woke up at three point thirty in the morning,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, how could you sleep so long?

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler had an all time classic Finals game against Lebron.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe I lived long enough to see it.

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Speaker 4: But he was just incredible. It was every play that

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Speaker 4: you needed from Jimmy Butler. He was making plays. He

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Speaker 4: was somehow still getting criticized for not scoring enough. Wait

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Speaker 4: until the game is over, Mark Jackson, Wait until the

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Speaker 4: game is over, Jeff Van Gundy, have we not figured

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Speaker 4: this out yet? Jimmy tries to score when there's somebody

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Speaker 4: It was an incredible performance, shades of Dwayne Wade. Honestly,

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Speaker 4: two thousand and six Finals Game three. I went back

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Speaker 4: and Jimmy's always gonna have this moment. Who knows that

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Speaker 4: be amazing. But for one night, Jimmy bested Lebron. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Okay, fourth quarter, eight thirty to go, I'll go at

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Speaker 2: that's when the Heat were actually down. Went at Markith

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Speaker 2: is a great scorer, but he's also a great passer.

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Speaker 2: was incredible those two fourth quarter dimes, the one where

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Speaker 4: But I gotta say twenty six potential assists for Jimmy

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Speaker 3: Here was m I'm sorry I brought an MVP storyline there,

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Speaker 3: scored assisted on twenty seven of the heat's forty one basket.

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Speaker 3: That's supposed to be Lebron's narrative for the MVP in

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Speaker 5: He stole the Well, look, I know we're all slubbering

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Speaker 5: to be a debbie down here because that passed out

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Speaker 5: But there were a couple of times last night. I

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Speaker 5: then he does something crazy. So you know, this was

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Speaker 5: I would have been pointing at those two factors a

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Speaker 5: lot to say, Jimmy, take over, don't be afraid, go

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Speaker 5: He stayed in his lane, which is and you pointed

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Speaker 5: he's basically got to go out that guy and get

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Speaker 5: He's got that little step back or at least draw

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Speaker 5: did an incredible job of that last night. Because if

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Speaker 5: you look at the box score, you know the Heat

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Speaker 5: had more fouls than the Lakers, and the Lakers shot

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Speaker 5: it certainly wasn't as though the referees were trying to

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Speaker 5: he was going in there working hard, and a couple

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Speaker 5: And there were other moments where the Lakers hit him.

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Speaker 5: So Jimmy was absorbed all that contact and just put

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Speaker 5: And here I hit the three, Docan Robinson hit a three.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned the Kelly Olynic one. That was just a

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Speaker 5: truly masterful performance from Jimmy last night. One of the

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Speaker 5: greatest final performances I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's not Yerbally there for sure to

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Speaker 2: I don't know about utass, Like I was like, Wow,

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Speaker 2: Jimmy's doing pretty impressive stuff. You're early because he set

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Speaker 2: the tone right away, right, the Lakers were sloppy as hell. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll get into them. You know, eighties checked out,

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Speaker 2: he gets into foul trouble, and still as the game continued,

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Speaker 2: you know, it was close at half, the Lakers would

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Speaker 2: instead it was, you know, they gave up the lead.

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Speaker 2: They gave up the lead there late. I was like,

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Speaker 2: And you're like, all right, well they're down and okay,

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Speaker 2: it was instrumental. Like LI said, but I don't know

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Speaker 3: Did for sure. And that's why Lebron going into half

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Speaker 3: going to show up. But yeah, the heat definitely took

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Speaker 3: just go onto the Lakers side of the ball and say, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they didn't show up. They didn't have a good game.

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Speaker 3: Lebron was passing to absolutely no one at times. With

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Speaker 3: those nasty eight turnovers. The line looks so, but it

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Speaker 3: wasn't a very good game from him and Anthony Davis

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Speaker 3: five turnovers too. The heat made them play poorly. And

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Speaker 3: the only disappointment for me was I mentioned it earlier.

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Speaker 3: The last four minutes of the game, the Lakers still

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Speaker 3: in striking distance there, Jimmy Butler was playing point guard,

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Speaker 3: he had the ball, and I don't know if it's

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Speaker 3: and in this instance, Lebron just said, nah soft switched Mark.

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Speaker 3: If you got him, KCP, you got him. Everybody else

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Speaker 3: had a shot him. There's four possessions. Unlike Jamal Murray

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Speaker 3: earlier in the playoffs where they went up two oh

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Speaker 3: against the Nuggets, Lebron got lots of credit for the

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Speaker 3: It looked like Rondo going under the hoop and throwing out.

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Speaker 4: The problem was they just didn't bring it from a

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Speaker 2: You know, every time Anthony.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, because if you

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Speaker 2: it's just they couldn't get stopped. They especially would get

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Speaker 2: So we saw that there, You're like, all right, they

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Speaker 2: And that was enough. The recipe was obviously the offense

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Speaker 2: we were looking at in Game two, like, yeah, everybody

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Speaker 5: Well, and as well by putting pressure on them by

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Speaker 5: But know one thing we know about Eric's bolster and

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Speaker 5: we didn't see enough of that certainly in game won

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Speaker 5: then last night, Jay Crowder, I mean he's you know again,

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Speaker 5: But at least he can give everything he's got physically

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Speaker 5: You know, even Kelly olynok I thought was physical last night.

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Speaker 5: I think the heat did a much better job of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ed really no impact on this game, and again

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Speaker 5: sign of professionalism there from Meslanders to go out there

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Speaker 5: of think, hey, how come I'm not getting a few

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Speaker 2: And it sounds like Lee liked the wired segment, mister

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Speaker 3: And target target out there, but I target.

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Speaker 5: Because you know, when Bambco goes down and I've said

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited.

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Speaker 5: I hope this isn't just that one game that Lebron,

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Speaker 5: if him or drag It You're back. But this was

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Speaker 4: All of the losses that the Lakers have had in

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Speaker 2: You gotta think Jimmy's got to do it again.

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Speaker 4: But I've seen them play forty eight straight minutes in

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Speaker 5: One of that guys did literally only have thirty four

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Speaker 2: In the game won bombs. Yeah that was ten years ago. Idea, Well, Lebron,

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, give credit to Jimmy, credit to

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Speaker 2: he's scoring pretty solidly right now without some of their guys,

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Speaker 2: possibility for Game four. Who knows what dragish? But what

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Speaker 3: I think the money line, the best line should be

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Speaker 3: this postseason. Now, of course, it partly was the heat

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Speaker 3: But I think that just changes. There's going to be

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Speaker 3: I think I think they should be the favorite going forward.

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Speaker 3: But I think the biggest difference, Yeah, the Spolstra defense

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Speaker 3: more than nine shots. I think what really happened to

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Speaker 3: if you can call him, you know, the most talented

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Speaker 3: the rim as the deterrence. It's just him and the

431
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Speaker 3: rim at the end of the games, because Kelly Olinik

432
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Speaker 3: was standing outside and so there's lots of space, and

433
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Speaker 3: bam Adebayo changes that dynamic a little bit, right because

434
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Speaker 3: you can stick if you're guarding bam Adebayo a lot

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Speaker 3: closer to the rim. So that's why Jimmy Butler, I

436
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Speaker 3: thought was great because there's just so much space out

437
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Speaker 3: there for him. I'm not saying sit bam Adebayo at

438
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Speaker 3: the end of games, but at the same time, I

439
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Speaker 3: think because of the dynamic changes, because they don't have

440
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Speaker 3: a lot of creators because it can't Goran's not there

441
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Speaker 3: to bail them out, it might be something that have

442
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Speaker 3: to look at a little bit because a second guy

443
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Speaker 3: would hurt Jimmy, you know, bam Odabaya whoever he's covering.

444
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Speaker 3: Ad was basically useless at the end of this game.

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Speaker 3: On the defensive end too. He was just standing out

446
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Speaker 3: with Kelly Olinok, just hanging out. Didn't even come close

447
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Speaker 3: to the paint and all defensive player just hanging out there.

448
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Speaker 3: So that's something that if dragage doesn't come back, they

449
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Speaker 3: should look at as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously Trey pumped the Jimmy Butler goes for forty.

451
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Speaker 2: You got the triple doub on the finals.

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Speaker 5: Lee.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to the snarl a little bit later when

454
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Speaker 2: we touch on tweet of the night. But Taylor Hero

455
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Speaker 2: you mentioned you slipped him in there. I think he

456
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Speaker 2: scored eight points over the final, you know, seven plus minutes,

457
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Speaker 2: so down the street it was big hitting, big shots,

458
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Speaker 2: and there's a good bounce back performance for this kid.

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Speaker 5: That layup that sort of left handed cross the backboard layup.

460
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Speaker 5: I don't know if you remember that one. That was

461
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Speaker 5: just an incredible finish. Like his ability to finish with

462
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Speaker 5: his off hand at this age is it's remarked he's

463
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Speaker 5: got such great poise, such great but you know what

464
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Speaker 5: he I wonder if it's sometimes just so young, you

465
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Speaker 5: don't know what stage you're on out there, because he

466
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Speaker 5: is not afraid to take a big shot and he

467
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Speaker 5: hit I think he only finished with two threes in

468
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Speaker 5: the end last night, but if his team needs a three,

469
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Speaker 5: he's like, throw yeah, I'm more than happy to take it.

470
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Speaker 5: I don't really care. So sometimes I think that's what

471
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Speaker 5: it is. It's like he hasn't been sort of burned

472
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Speaker 5: in the playoffs in the past where he where it's

473
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Speaker 5: like these things can be in the back of your mind.

474
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Speaker 5: Instead he's just like, listen, I'm great. I'm a great

475
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Speaker 5: basketball player. I'm only twenty years old, and I'm going

476
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Speaker 5: to go out there and perform. And again, seventeen points

477
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Speaker 5: just fantastic stuff. And look, there are times definitely where

478
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Speaker 5: the Lakers see him and they're like, well, this is

479
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 5: just a kid out here, and he has it physically

480
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Speaker 5: he can't sort of keep up with us. And you

481
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Speaker 5: saw that one play where it was I think Lebron

482
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Speaker 5: and Marcus mark eif Morris blocked the shot, and then

483
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Speaker 5: mark eif Morris would talking trash to him, and Tyler

484
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Speaker 5: Hero was giving it back as well. I mean, he

485
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Speaker 5: just doesn't feel intimidated at all when he's out there,

486
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Speaker 5: and I think that's great, and it's just so important

487
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Speaker 5: that Jimmy Butler's got these guys who are capable of

488
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Speaker 5: hitting those threes in Duncan particularly and Tyler Hero, I

489
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Speaker 5: mean Jay Crowder can hit him, and Kelly Olinics can

490
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Speaker 5: as well. Because if those guys can hit these threes,

491
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Speaker 5: then it does just give their offense a whole new

492
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Speaker 5: look and it's great. But yeah, I'm really enjoying this

493
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Speaker 5: Titleer Hero experience. I think it's so much fun to

494
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Speaker 5: watch and what to have.

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Speaker 2: A short memory like that, because he had a brutal

496
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Speaker 2: game too, I mean, and you know you could let

497
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Speaker 2: that affect your confidence for sure, but yeah, like who cares,

498
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Speaker 2: He doesn't care at all. Only the next one doesn't matter,

499
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Speaker 2: and you know, that's great. That can probably get you

500
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Speaker 2: in trouble at times too. There were even some shots

501
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Speaker 2: in this one. I was like, okay, man, maybe pass

502
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Speaker 2: the ball, let's get a better look here. But you're

503
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Speaker 2: gonna live with that. He's gonna be one of those

504
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Speaker 2: type of players probably for his whole career, where you know,

505
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Speaker 2: you got some four for eighteens and then you've got,

506
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Speaker 2: you know, the thirty seven point games and big shots

507
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Speaker 2: and clutch shots and stuff like that. You're gonna take

508
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Speaker 2: the bad with the good in that one. Anything to

509
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Speaker 2: add to this one, Trey Kirby again. This awesome Jimmy

510
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Speaker 2: Butler Game three performance.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people have talked for a long time about being

512
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Speaker 4: able to see the legendary footage of Jimmy taking the

513
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Speaker 4: third stringers and beating the timber Wolves. This is as

514
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Speaker 4: close as we got because last night Jimmy went out

515
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Speaker 4: there with the starters, literally with the starters, putting out Meyers,

516
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Speaker 4: Leonard Duncan, Robinson, Tyler Herro and Kelly Olynnock along with

517
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Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler to beat Lebron in a finals game.

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Speaker 2: You know, they were wearing black and red. It's still

519
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Speaker 2: a bulls win for me. Wow, look at that. We

520
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Speaker 2: basically are that. It's incredible.

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Speaker 4: Wires is even from Illinois, Kelly Olynock. He's Canadian, right, Lee,

522
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Speaker 4: He's got the flame thrower from Free and Skeets. You know,

523
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Speaker 4: he's got the poise. He might be a bit older

524
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Speaker 4: than twenty, but he misses a shot. You know, he's

525
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Speaker 4: still taking the next.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I got I d the other day still yeah,

527
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Speaker 2: and I was like, I mean I think it's because

528
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Speaker 2: I had a mask on. You know, that's a bit

529
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Speaker 2: of a problem. I was like, I got a weird

530
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Speaker 2: beard under here. Now, like, trust me, this is gonna

531
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Speaker 2: be weird. I'm gonna pull this out. You're gonna go

532
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Speaker 2: like what, I'm old? But how about it take a

533
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Speaker 2: lot of this beard. Yeah, take a look at this

534
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Speaker 2: beard for sure. Okay, anything task or lead that you

535
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Speaker 2: want to add to this game or moving forward in

536
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Speaker 2: this series like Lee's obviously you're excited. I asked you

537
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Speaker 2: on Saturday if this was a sweep. You said yes,

538
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Speaker 2: And now you're bum We're gonna listen.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: You know, when you are a true neutral, you just

541
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Speaker 5: want to see a great series. And again, from what

542
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Speaker 5: we've seen for the Bubble in the playoffs. I want

543
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Speaker 5: nothing more than this to be at just a crazy

544
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Speaker 5: series that we go six or seven games at least,

545
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Speaker 5: because I think we deserve it.

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Speaker 2: We deserve it, We've earned that. Okay, we personally, yes, yeah,

547
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: we still bring in it. We'll still bring it in

548
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Speaker 2: the finals. So it's up to the NBA to do

549
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: it as well. Thank you, Lee, I'm glad you said that.

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Speaker 2: This is our three hundred and thirty first show of

551
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Speaker 2: the year of the season. We started on October fourteenth

552
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Speaker 2: with season previews. Here we are in October fifth, nearly

553
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Speaker 2: a full year. There's three hundred and sixty six days

554
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: in this last year was a leap here, so we

555
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: got one next day. Well that's damn impressive. So you're right,

556
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Speaker 2: we do deserve this lead. We deserve for this to

557
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Speaker 2: go five or six or more. I mean, what I

558
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Speaker 2: to ask anything else add Yet, it.

559
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Speaker 3: Was just weird watching this game and seeing the Lakers

560
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Speaker 3: bench outperform their starters. It was really weird. Danny Green again,

561
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Speaker 3: another bad game. Over from the floor. Dwyn Howard didn't

562
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Speaker 3: play a ton Can Davis Callbo Pope bad? But then

563
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Speaker 3: Kuzma Morris, Yeah, everybody coming off the bench they scored

564
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Speaker 3: fifty three points off the bench, ty for the second

565
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Speaker 3: most in an NBA Finals game since the starters existed, No,

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Speaker 3: since they I started tracking it in seventy seventy one.

567
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Speaker 3: So that was just that was just weird. I don't

568
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Speaker 3: know what's going on with Danny Green. We thought there

569
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Speaker 3: there would be an inflection point, there would be a

570
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Speaker 3: point where it turned on for Danny, but it's not

571
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Speaker 3: happening yet. And then yeah, Kus and Mark if Morris

572
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Speaker 3: were awesome. I don't know if they just roll out

573
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Speaker 3: the same lineup. I assume they will, and these guys

574
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Speaker 3: just get their their fill in minutes. But at least

575
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Speaker 3: you can rely on them. At least you can go

576
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Speaker 3: to the bench if you're Frank Vogel and say, oh,

577
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Speaker 3: we're going to get some some good minutes from everybody

578
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Speaker 3: not named j R. Smith. Why was j R. Smith

579
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Speaker 3: out there?

580
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Speaker 2: I didn't really I didn't really want the two dribble

581
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Speaker 2: pull up for a corner three.

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Speaker 4: It's rare to see any dribbles on a corner three,

583
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Speaker 4: but to make a move to get down there impressive stuff.

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Speaker 2: Task hit on it earlier, though.

585
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Speaker 4: I think the big change for the Lakers in Game

586
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Speaker 4: four will be less switching and more Lebron's saying, I

587
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Speaker 4: need to take over a little bit here and really

588
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Speaker 4: put my stamp on this series, just like he did

589
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Speaker 4: against Jamal Murray when it came time for a winning

590
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Speaker 4: time for the Lakers in their previous series.

591
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Speaker 2: So I think we will.

592
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Speaker 4: We'll get a finals MVP performance from Lebron pretty soon here.

593
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Speaker 2: And what do you think do you think we see

594
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Speaker 2: Bam in game four? Tray. I know we're just guessing

595
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Speaker 2: at this point, but he was like going through the

596
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: workouts in this one. He's like he's asking them to

597
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: play and stuff like that, and they're trying to, you know,

598
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Speaker 2: prevent him from reinjuring his neck or his arm or

599
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Speaker 2: whatever the hell's hurting on him. Like what do you

600
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Speaker 2: think or drugage for that.

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Speaker 4: Matter, h dragage seems less likely to me, right, just

602
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Speaker 4: because there's something there that's torn. Anytime something's torn, you

603
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Speaker 4: know it's got to be bad. On the other hand, Bam,

604
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Speaker 4: every time we see him, he's got that gigantic towel

605
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 4: rolled around us next, so you know his head has

606
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Speaker 4: been supported. It must be pretty healthy. I think he'll

607
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Speaker 4: probably try and give it a go at some point

608
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Speaker 4: in this series. Will it be in Game four? I'm

609
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Speaker 4: sure the heat would like it. There was a lot

610
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Speaker 4: of talk about him maybe showing up, so I wouldn't

611
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Speaker 4: be surprised.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can you legally play in a neck brace? That's

613
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Speaker 2: a great question. I don't think I've ever seen somebody. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wonder somebody is Schumann watching? Somebody ask Schumann on that.

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Speaker 3: All right, this would be the time to try it out.

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Speaker 3: What are they gonna say? You know, you can't do

617
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Speaker 3: it in the bubble. There's no rules in the bubble.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, these little and if not a neck brace,

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Speaker 2: let them do the towel thing, like, can you play

620
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Speaker 2: with the towel?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 4: I think you got Anthony Davis wear that compression shirt.

623
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Speaker 4: Just get like a compression mock turtleneck or something exactly.

624
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Speaker 2: And then at least we can get the everyone's gonna

625
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: like the Lakers were like, he can't play with the

626
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Speaker 2: neck brace. And then they come over to the side

627
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Speaker 2: tray and they're like, well, it doesn't say anywhere in

628
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Speaker 2: the rule book.

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Speaker 3: They can't.

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Speaker 2: We go we got a movie. Well, Disney World, they

631
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Speaker 2: were writing the movie. It's perfect. Let's take a quick

632
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Speaker 2: break though, and here from our sponsors, So how many

633
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: teams are left in baseball?

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Speaker 5: Then?

635
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 3: Now what do we have?

636
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Speaker 2: Great question?

637
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 3: Eight?

638
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: Six, sixteen, Well then they just eight?

639
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: That's okay.

640
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we're done the first round, the best of three.

641
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: We're into the best of fives in their bubble situations.

642
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: Now into the real playoffs now, right, like what the

643
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: standard playoffs would be? Right?

644
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Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, okay, so okay, and we got the Tampa

645
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Speaker 2: Bay is the Yankees? Do we exit stuff?

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Speaker 3: All? Right?

647
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Speaker 2: Lee? So Judge home run socking dinger.

648
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Speaker 5: Tonight, I'll be sucking dings left and right. Yeah, give

649
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Speaker 5: me Judge. Judge's drid doesn't.

650
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Speaker 4: Quick correction coming in here from the stream team. Apparently

651
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Speaker 4: Sony Michelle is out tonight, so don't add him to

652
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Speaker 4: your Draft Kings roster.

653
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Speaker 3: What am I supposed to do?

654
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 2: How am I supposed to keep up with all of

655
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 2: these injury reports? Late? It's impossible, Sony.

656
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Speaker 5: You've never heard that name Sony before? You know, Sonny.

657
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 5: There's a few Sonny's out there, but not a Sony.

658
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Speaker 5: I'm a song man myself.

659
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Speaker 2: I've got a friend named Panasonic.

660
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never heard of before. But I've heard of

661
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: cam contracted COVID. It is not. He's not playing tonight,

662
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Speaker 3: is he? They had the Patriots had to fly two

663
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: different lanes to this game, wow against Casey. Yeah, the

664
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Speaker 3: ones who came into contact with the cam man and

665
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Speaker 3: the ones who did not. But I think they're playing.

666
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Speaker 2: Geez, well, yeah, didn't they They canceled or suspended or whatever,

667
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: pushed back the game right because they had a bunch

668
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Speaker 2: of cases. Great, So yeah, all right, let's hit the beach.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, on the beach. You know your questions in

670
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Speaker 2: no dunks at the Athletic dot Com tweeter man at

671
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Speaker 2: No Dunks And we got a few here before we

672
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Speaker 2: officially step on the beach later this week. What we

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Speaker 2: got here? Tess?

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Speaker 3: Hello, fellas you know we left this first part in

675
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Speaker 3: watch this. Thanks for all the great content going back

676
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: to the TBJ days. I've always appreciated how you guys

677
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Speaker 3: have been able to strike a nice balance of fun

678
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: conversation with nerdy basketball nuance. I never know if I'm

679
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 3: going to come away from a podcast laughing, learning something new,

680
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: or both. Thanks. That's my question with Kyrie saying on

681
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: kd's podcast that Brooklyn will have a collaborative coaching environment

682
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Speaker 3: and even stating that here kd could be head coach

683
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Speaker 3: for a day. It got me thinking, what current star

684
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: player do you think as the attributes of a great coach.

685
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: Please don't say Lebron is basketball IQ experience and accolades

686
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: make him an obvious choice to AVI. My pick is

687
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: Kyrie as a Phil Jackson tape. He's philosophical and outside

688
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: the box thinker and has been around a surprising amount

689
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: of good players, coaches, and systems. I know he wasn't

690
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 3: an ideal leader in Boston, but maybe as he ages

691
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: into his forties, fifties and beyond, he becomes wiser and

692
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: grows into more of a mentor role. That's from Eric

693
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Speaker 3: in Portland. Star player becoming a coach. What do you think, Lee?

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Speaker 5: So, yeah, it's an interesting question because there's always been

695
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Speaker 5: guys like Derek Fisher, for example, when he was playing,

696
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 5: people said, oh, he'll be a great coach, but he

697
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Speaker 5: went to the Knicks and he didn't really do all

698
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Speaker 5: that well, but largely again because of the situation and

699
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Speaker 5: the players that he had. So you know, that's ultimately

700
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Speaker 5: what it comes down to. But I think a guy

701
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Speaker 5: who will make the transition into coaching and will be

702
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Speaker 5: good at it because he's been on star teams, but

703
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Speaker 5: he's never been a superstar. He's been an All Star,

704
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Speaker 5: but not an All NBA player. Is Andre Gudala. I

705
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Speaker 5: really think he's a very good commune. He's very well

706
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Speaker 5: respected in any locker room that he's been in. I

707
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 5: remember back to the Warrior's days there that what a

708
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Speaker 5: lot of the players liked about him, how just how

709
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Speaker 5: hard he worked and how well he prepared himself and

710
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 5: got his body ready to play and accepted as well

711
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 5: that role. Remember he didn't want to come off the bench,

712
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Speaker 5: and eventually he did and he became so good at

713
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 5: he won finals MVP. So you know, he's the sort

714
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Speaker 5: of guy who really can sort of adapt and adjust

715
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Speaker 5: and does put his ego to the side. So I

716
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Speaker 5: think he would be a great communicator. He's a bit

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Speaker 5: of an outside the box thinker as well. He does

718
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Speaker 5: a few things excuse me, you know, the sort of

719
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Speaker 5: show that he's trying to think of beyond the game itself.

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Speaker 5: So I think he will one day be a good

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Speaker 5: head coach in the NBA if he choose to pursue it.

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Speaker 5: He might have higher things in his life that he

723
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Speaker 5: wants to achieve. But if he does stay in the

724
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Speaker 5: basketball world, he'll I think he'll be a very very

725
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Speaker 5: good coach.

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Speaker 2: It's a good one. Who do you go?

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Speaker 3: Trey.

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Speaker 4: Andre Iguardala was the top of my list, and exactly

729
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Speaker 4: for the reasons Lee was saying. He's been a star

730
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Speaker 4: and an All Star, and he's also been a guy

731
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Speaker 4: who's just a glue guy for your team. But I

732
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Speaker 4: gotta agree with the stream team. Kyle Lowry would be

733
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 4: a great head coach eventually someday, because you really think

734
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Speaker 4: Chris Paul first when you're talking about that type of player.

735
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Speaker 4: But Chris Paul, I feel like would take the wins

736
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 4: and losses every single night a little bit too seriously.

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Speaker 4: He probably would go overboard sometimes. It might be a

738
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Speaker 4: lot like Doc Rivers as a coach.

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Speaker 3: Right now.

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Speaker 2: Give me Kyle Lowry.

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Speaker 4: He's got a slightly gentler nature than Chris Paul and

742
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Speaker 4: like andre Iguidala, like Chris Paul, he is a guy

743
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Speaker 4: who's had to get by mostly on basketball smarts and

744
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Speaker 4: knowing where to be.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. Yeah. I mean Igodola might be

746
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: like Doc Rivers too, that he likes to golf, so

747
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Speaker 2: he's always out there golfing and no practice. I never

748
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Speaker 2: know anyone else to add test. I know we've had

749
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Speaker 2: this question. You know, we've done this for a long time.

750
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: We had this question every couple of years. But one

751
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: of the names the guys mentioned, somebody else comes to

752
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Speaker 2: mind as a player that could be a great coach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm with the Chris Paul train. I think, yeah,

754
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: maybe he may have been a little bit more fiery

755
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Speaker 3: in his younger years, but as Eric in Portland implied

756
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Speaker 3: about Kyrie, maybe he grows into a mentor role. I

757
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: think that's happened to Chris Paul. I think, uh, he

758
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: definitely cares about guys. He gives people directions obviously on

759
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Speaker 3: the floor. You can see him as the president of

760
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: the NBA PA that he is. You know, he's already

761
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Speaker 3: coaching now. I mean he's he's a leader.

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Speaker 2: He's a leader.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And I think even though he is hard

764
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Speaker 3: on guys, it's no doubt and he's firing and he's

765
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: gotten into it with you, reportedly with Blake and DeAndre

766
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: Jordan and even James Harden for sure.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think he would be different as

769
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Speaker 3: a as a coach, and he would care about his players.

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Speaker 3: I'm buying it. I'm buying the Chris Paul thing if

771
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Speaker 3: he's into it.

772
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Speaker 2: What did we think about the Chris Paul interview last

773
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: night while the game was going on? He's in the

774
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Speaker 2: virtual board for doing a nice little zoom in. What

775
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Speaker 2: do you think there? Ley?

776
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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was fine. It's not great TV, to be honest.

778
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Speaker 2: I agreed it's weird, but just do it a halftime,

779
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: as a lot of people pointed out, but maybe they

780
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Speaker 2: just wanted to show off that cool virtual board for

781
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Speaker 2: the last couple of times. Not a lot more use

782
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: to him it probably, but you know, asked about sort

783
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: of the whole like what's going to go happen with

784
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: his team? You know, just wants to hoop all I said,

785
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: so diplomatic answer there, You know, who knows if he's

786
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: going to be with Okay, see you would think they're

787
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: going to try and move him, but we will see. Yeah,

788
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Speaker 2: those are all great answers. I had a lot of

789
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Speaker 2: those guys on my list too, And I know if

790
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure the YouTube chats the stream team as you

791
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: called them, their tray have got some other answers, anyone

792
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: did you see any of note that we need to

793
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: throw in here?

794
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 4: Joa Kiem Noah can't imagine him as a coach, Klay

795
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: Thompson can't imagine him doing anything involving basketball after his

796
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 4: career is over. And of course, anytime you ask a question,

797
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: somebody's gonna suggest Bobon which would be hilarious to see

798
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 4: that guy in a suit every single night?

799
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Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah I thought of that. Okay, great answers

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Speaker 2: sort of the next one here answers at least yes answers, Hello,

801
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: my no Dunk's crew. As a longtime listener, I have

802
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: never felt the urge to write in as the content

803
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: and the Q and A's on beach step and always

804
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: keep me entertained, So that's good. But this week, however,

805
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: that all changed. When Lee called Skeetze Phil I cannot

806
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: stop thinking about it was awkward and strange. I just

807
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 2: plain don't like it. My question is which NBA player

808
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: can you not call by their real name? Is there

809
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: someone whose nickname has become so synonymous with the player

810
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: that calling them by their legal name gives you the

811
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: heb gbs, just like Lee did to me? Yes, this

812
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: guy Trent who says no rhyme, just loved Trent from

813
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: melbourn Lee. You gave him the hebgb's because you accidentally

814
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: called me Phil, which you're always good for once every

815
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: couple of months on the podcast. Here it slips out.

816
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, is there another NBA player, Trey. I'll go

817
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: to you first that like you, you just can't call

818
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: them their legal name, it's it's their other name.

819
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we haven't seen him play in a while, but

820
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Speaker 4: I think DeMarcus Cousins has become Boogie Cousins. You rarely

821
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 4: call him Cousins to begin with you, and rarely hear DeMarcus.

822
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Speaker 4: He's just boogie at this point because it sounds awesome.

823
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 2: Calling a guy boogie is fun.

824
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Speaker 4: You know, there was a booger that called Monday Night

825
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: Football played in the NFL. You gotta have a booger

826
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Speaker 4: or a boogie around eats. I know you pronounce it boogie,

827
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 4: but I say, yeah, booger, booger, Yeah, booger and boogie,

828
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 4: but yeah, Boogie Cousins has uh, he's become boogie officially

829
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 4: for everyone.

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Speaker 3: I would have to think, ye booger. McFarland has been

831
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Speaker 3: compared to Zion Williamson. Recently, people think in Zion Wimson

832
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 3: might get big, you could look like booger McFarland booger,

833
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: don't call me booger.

834
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Speaker 2: What what did that guy do? I don't know. I

835
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: know who you're talking about, of course, But was he

836
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: a former player?

837
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? NFL player?

838
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: Like what what did he play? Though?

839
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Speaker 4: Line?

840
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: I think he was a defensive lineman. Okay, so he's

841
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: just a big, big dude.

842
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 4: Man. I actually I actually think he was a nose tackle.

843
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 4: And now I'm realizing that if he was a nose

844
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Speaker 4: tackle and his booger, that's genius.

845
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Speaker 2: Man, that's very very smart. Do you lee have any

846
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: other guys that fit this bill here?

847
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Speaker 5: Well, you know, Steph Curry's name isn't Steph. That's it's

848
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 5: like a J. D. Terrence there, he's a He's Wardell

849
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 5: Stephan Curry because his father is also Wardell. But I'm

850
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 5: just trying to think, remember when those Christmas Day games

851
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 5: a few years ago, maybe five years ago now, when

852
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 5: they had their first names on the back. Did he

853
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 5: go with Steph or did he go with Wardell? I

854
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 5: think he probably went with Steph. Stefan Yeah, yeah, but yeah,

855
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 5: it is funny when you think, you know, we talk

856
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 5: about Dell Curry and we talk about Steph, but they're both.

857
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 5: Actually Dell's right.

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00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 3: You know, you're not wrong.

859
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 2: You're not wrong. It's a very Terrence gd situation.

860
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Speaker 3: Exactly are they farmers? Are the farmer and the Dells?

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Speaker 2: Do you do you have any one there?

862
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Speaker 3: Task Well, we've talked so much about dark Rivers. He's not.

863
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Speaker 3: He's Glen as as Big Baby Davis called him once, right,

864
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Speaker 3: I think he.

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Speaker 2: Was didn't dream cool cool story, Glenn.

866
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Speaker 3: Cool story, Glenn. That's I was getting Glenn's confused because

867
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 3: Big Baby is also a Glenn Davis. And JJ Redick.

868
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: I just I went through guys names. I didn't ever

869
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: know what JJ Reddick's actual name was, so I was

870
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Speaker 3: just surprised that his name is Jonathan Clay Reddick.

871
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't that. I actually thought his name was

872
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: technically JJ. I guess not, obviously.

873
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 3: I don't no idea where it came from, where JJ

874
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: came from, where it started, But yeah, I could see

875
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 3: him being a Clay as well.

876
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: Clay Reddick. All right, let's hear from you guys with

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00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: that one. At least on Twitter at no dunk think

878
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: or in the YouTube comments a player that you just

879
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: can't even call by their legal name anymore. There's obviously

880
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 2: a ton. There's a ton out there, all right. Let's

881
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: take one more quick break before tweeted the night time

882
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: for tweet of the night.

883
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 3: Tweet of the night. Wow, tweet of the night.

884
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: Is actually tweeted the morning because this one comes from

885
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: the athletic z owne John Hollinger talking about the snarl

886
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: from Tyler Hero. John Holider's caption fantastic. I actually snorted

887
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: out loud reading this one. Eighteen year old me walking

888
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: out of the ap calculus exam. John Hollanders a numbers man.

889
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: He was feeling good when he was eighteen year old

890
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: with that exam dropping this snarw like Tyler Hero. He

891
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: looks so young in this photo. I mean he's like twenty,

892
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: he looks like he looks like eight years old. I mean,

893
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: I'm putting you guys on the spot. I know you

894
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: would probably remember Trey because you probably have the photo somewhere.

895
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: I remember there was a weird photo of me back

896
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: at like the Basketball Jones days where I don't know why,

897
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: but someone took the task you I took a photo

898
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: of me like they're really high or standing on a chair.

899
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: Because when I wear a hat, I'm gonna wear a

900
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 2: hat right now backwards. But when I wear a hat

901
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: forward pre beard, at least I look like I'm like

902
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: six years old. I'm definitely getting id if I'm buying

903
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: booze with the hat forward and no beard, and U

904
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: do you know what photo I'm talking about?

905
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think you're like wearing a Boston hat

906
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 4: or something like that.

907
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: You definitely look like a Tyler hero. I look like

908
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 2: a kid. And that's exactly what Tyler Herrols think to me. Snarling.

909
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: But that is a funny, funny caption from Hollinger. There

910
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: he's a numbers guy. I mean, look, if Shuman had

911
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: tweeted that, I would have laughed just as hard. If

912
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 2: Pelton had tweeted that, just as hard. You know, these

913
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: Numbers guys, they got a sense of humors. What I

914
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: like about these guys. They're not just robots, you know.

915
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 5: It was it was a great snarl. It was a

916
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 5: great snole because uh, you know, he's just got a

917
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 5: little bit of a wispy hair at the buttom of

918
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 5: the chin there not a whole lot going on. But uh,

919
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 5: he's big time man.

920
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: He's great. His heirk's like a task after a good run.

921
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: I like that.

922
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 4: Uh, there's like a different snarl for every generation. Because

923
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 4: as soon as he snarled my dad he's a super

924
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 4: old guy.

925
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: He texted me.

926
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 4: He's like just like Elvis, just like Elvis. Tyler Hero,

927
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 4: Tyler Hero, just like Elvis. Elvis has been dead for

928
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 4: like forty years before Tyler here was born. But other people,

929
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 4: for me, it's like Billy Joe Armstrong from Green Day.

930
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 4: I saw sid Vicious as well. Spend somebody uh snarling

931
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 4: for generations upon generations.

932
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Speaker 2: Great stuff. Thanks to Holder for tweet in the morning

933
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: again I cheated a little bit. I think that one

934
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Speaker 2: came out this morning.

935
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: All right, let's also got to dress something here real quick.

936
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 4: Skates got this from Ishmael Santiago part of this stream team.

937
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 2: We play in a neck brace.

938
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 4: Gerald Henderson Senior back in the day did play in

939
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: a neck brace.

940
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: My wow, God, he's rocking the blazers there too.

941
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 3: Those are sick.

942
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: I want to set up this guy's got that's amazing.

943
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: So hey, look it's not in the rule book. You

944
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 2: can do it. I guess they changed it. That is crazy.

945
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 3: That is incredible, is all right.

946
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 4: It's great for working on your handles, I would think,

947
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 4: because there's no way you can look down at the ball.

948
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep your head up, super blinders. Someone's just like, ah,

949
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: like you put a dog cone thing on a dog.

950
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: I won't stop like biting something that it shouldn't. Then

951
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 2: keep your head up. Yeah, really work on your pre Gerald.

952
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is this is Calvin Murphy actually as well.

953
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 5: And he played in the uh the full.

954
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: On kind of hockey helmet on that with the top

955
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 3: cut off.

956
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can breathe.

957
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 4: Wow.

958
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 2: Okay, well I hope we see some of this and finally.

959
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, we need we need we need the neck brice

960
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 5: underneath that one there.

961
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: Oh wow, ye full on headgarl Okay, thank you for

962
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: that great stuff.

963
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: Remember so that was Gerald Henderson senior in the first one.

964
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 3: I recently saw the highlight that we played one baillion

965
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: times in our six years as the starters. Gerald Henderson

966
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: the junior throwing a ball into the stands and a

967
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: lady taking it directly off the face. She could use

968
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: the neck brace for that helmet, yeah, or helmet either

969
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: one or not looking at her neighbor's phone that would help.

970
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: She had her face down. She took it right in

971
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 3: the glasses. I think she was okay though.

972
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, she had the Lee Ellis classes school and flying

973
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: on such a great club. I guess breakdown is so

974
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: funny too, so good, so good. We could have played

975
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 2: another billion times. All right, that's it for us today.

976
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 2: We're gonna be back on Wednesday morning to break down

977
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,480
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Speaker 3: Wow. Somebody said in the comments, we are the Cal

995
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: Ripken of basketball podcast. Not a compliment to me, That's

996
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: not what do it day in and day out. I'm not.

997
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: There's better than Cal. I like Cal.

998
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: You want to want to?

999
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 3: I mean he was, he was great, but do you

1000
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Speaker 3: want don't you want a little bit of flash, a

1001
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: little bit of flair? He was solid, he's solid, He's not.

1002
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: It's better than the A. C. Green a podcast. Oh

1003
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 3: that's a real you know, maybe I don't know even

1004
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: an Aaron Judge a podcast would be better. And Auntie Smith, well.

1005
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: We're not gonna be Cal Ripkick because we're not doing

1006
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 2: a podcast tomorrow. So we'll see you guys on Wednesday.

1007
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: Embrace the day, people.

1008
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Speaker 3: You could stay.

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Speaker 1: Every day.

1010
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Speaker 2: Dad, you happy every minute. It's been so long that

1011
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Speaker 2: your way.

1012
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: Already. It's kind of body

1013
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Speaker 4: Ter