1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast didn't come here to make friends. 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the League Podcast. 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jansas, and I am joined by 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: a room full of heroes, Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Greg Rosittal. What up, boys, I don't know. Dan basically 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: just told us that our energy was low last show, 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: so we're feeling we'll come in feeling a little bit 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: bad about ourselves. Right before the show, Dan gives us 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: basically some new Rockney talk that we didn't, you know, 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: have enough energy last time. I listened to the show 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: on Monday while flowering my plants in the garden because 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't have children, Mark, is that a euphemism? Uh? 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: That is that's a literal, and uh, you know, I 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: thought it was a little low, but that could have 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: tied into Westling in Sessler's dungeon the night before and 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: in general a long day. But I feel like it's 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: a solid sixteen hour day for Sessler before that pot 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: even starts in twelve or fourteen for us. So I 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 1: have to come back to give you, Mark, I think 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: your energy was great. Wow, he's penning a straight on 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: Cessler going after him. It's fair it's fair. I mean, 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: we just gotta come. We gotta rebound or rebound k Rich, 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: how are you doing behind the glass? All is well, guys, 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm pumped for Thursday night football. My spirits are high 25 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: until I heard the intro of this podcast. Money's intros 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: are sounding very redundant, and I feel like I have 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: my amazing around the league writers cough cough that we'll 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: have them to you today. Crystal will have one. We 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: have run through all our our prerecorded uh what what 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: would you call these? Can canned intros? Canned intros? We 31 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: ran through all of them all fifteen or so that 32 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: we wrote up and had Matt money Smith record and 33 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: now we're going over again. But this is k Rich. 34 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: In fairness to k Rich, he told us about a 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: week ago, maybe two weeks ago, Hey, we need more intros. 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: We didn't do him, and now k Rich is angry, 37 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: which is not a good situation. Ever, I'm very angry. 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna read the news angrily today. I think I'm 39 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: going to try that. All right, Well, let's start right there. 40 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: Why don't we? Why don't we? Because yeah, well just 41 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: for today, just so you know, we're gonna do some 42 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: news we're gonna you know, we've been talking about this 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,279 Speaker 1: for a week as well. Bonker's Sacks k riches Um 44 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: official theme music for the News. We're gonna listen to that. 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna do some Thursday night football. We're gonna talk 46 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: about something. Oh and two teams see who's who's finished 47 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: and who's got a shot at this to bounce back, 48 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: and then of course when West's toaster is back to 49 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: close the show. But let's start with the news, k Rich, 50 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: Let's let's get right into it, all right. Let me 51 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: know if this is angry enough for you guys. Left 52 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: tackle Ryan Claydie is moving straight to the Broncos I 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: R list with a Liz Frank sprain that will require 54 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: surgery that worked. I got the message. I'd be angry 55 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: if I was a Broncos fan. I mean, this is 56 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: this is worse than everything that's happened to them this year. 57 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: Would you guys agree with that. There's been a lot 58 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: of things that have happened for you know, athlete to 59 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: the Broncos. This is on the top. I wrote the 60 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: initial piece when we thought he might just be out 61 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: for a month or so, and I thought they could 62 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: paper over that because Peyton Manning is so good before 63 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: the snap. He he and Eli are always the two 64 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: like lowest set quarterbacks in the league, so past protection 65 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: might not be a big issue. But if we go 66 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: back to our two thousand seven Paths comparison, all we 67 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: heard all year was how much time Brady had in 68 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: the pocket that year. He was back there eating lunch, 69 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: having a picnic. You know, Manning is not gonna have 70 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: that without the best left left tackle in football. I 71 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: think a lot of this went back to me predicting 72 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: the sixteen and oh on Sunday, and immediately we find 73 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: out that the left tackle, the cornerstone of the offensive line, 74 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: Peyton man and blindside protector gone for the year. That's rough. 75 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: And don't forget they also lost the center. I know, 76 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: Manny Ramirez, he must be doing a pretty good job 77 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: because they just gave him a new contract, but they 78 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: lost two centers. Yeah, right. The football gods were not 79 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: happy with your Hubris, No, they didn't like I mean, 80 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: think about how much money they just paid Claydie thirty 81 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: three million guaranteed more than fifty that's a heck of 82 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: a lot more than they were ever going to play 83 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: pay Elvis Duberville. So I'm not saying this kills their 84 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: chances by any means. But if it's not significant to 85 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: go from clayde to who is it, Chris Clark, then 86 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: then why did give him all that money? I do 87 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: look at like a team like the Packers in two 88 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: thousand ten. I think they had what sixteen guys on 89 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: I R something when they went into the playoffs, And 90 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: sometimes you're better teams just find a way to play 91 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: around this. I mean, by the time we get to 92 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: the playoffs, every one of the contending teams well have 93 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: suffered some sort of devastating ill But I look at 94 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: the I look at Denver's defense von Miller, They've they've 95 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: done a nice job of remaining completely active competitive without him. 96 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: He'll be back soon. All these guys are coming back 97 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: at some point, not clayte And that's that is that's 98 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: a tough one to cover over. And I agree that, 99 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: you know, great teams find a way, but all takes 100 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: his one hit on Hayton Manning and it's over in Denver, right, 101 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: But that's also true of Aaron Rodgers, and essentially you 102 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: lose the guy in the line you could least afford 103 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: to lose this, especially when it comes with a guy 104 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: getting hit. They call him a blindside for a reason. 105 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: He would never see it coming. If this guy Clark 106 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: can't do the job and something bad happens, you know, 107 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: well disaster. Back to the Aaron Rodgers thing. Who's to 108 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: say Clark isn't better than David back tr I mean, 109 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: it's uh, nobody's got like how dare you? How many 110 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: of these contenders have premier left tackles? Right? Uh? K rich? 111 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: What else is in the news? Alright, guys, I'm kind 112 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: of liking this read the news mad thing. I want 113 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: to try it one more time. Colts tight end Dwayne 114 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: Allen needs surgery and will miss the entire season for 115 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: hip surgery. I'm mad about this one too. He was 116 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: my making the leap guy. I love Dwayne and I 117 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: thought he had pro bowled potentially. Think we should play 118 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: some taps carriage some taps to remember making the leap 119 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: candidate lost Dwayne Allen another a lot of wess is 120 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: making the lead guys. To be honest, number the number 121 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: ten guy on the list. He could have been higher 122 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: too easily. I thought he was maybe a pro bowl 123 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: to have a player this year. I did too. I 124 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: think it's a much bigger lost than Vick Ballard. The 125 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: guy who comes in for Ballard is probably a better player, 126 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: and mab Branchi. The guy who comes in for Dwayne 127 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: Allen is Dominique Jones, who fumbled a potential touchdown last 128 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: week that basically cost the Cold to the game. It's 129 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: funny because I watched that Cold scheme again and I 130 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: felt like when Hayward Bay was removed from the equation, 131 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: not in a way that we celebrate, but through injury, 132 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: it's t Y Hilton suddenly, and that this should have 133 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: happened weeks ago. There had no other choice but to 134 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: target him relentlessly, and he had his career best game. 135 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: It was almost like by by someone being taken out, 136 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: the lineup got kind of configured the way it should 137 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: have been. That's not the case with Alan. That's a 138 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: very talented player that we're essentially not going to get 139 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: a chance to see grow in the offensive this year. 140 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: It changes what Pep Hamilton's wants to do because he 141 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: wanted to run more. He wanted to be two tight ends, 142 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: Alan and Fleaner. Suddenly, now you just have Fleaner. I 143 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: think you'll see more of three wide receivers d h B, Hayward, 144 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: Bay and Luck. We're not on the same page often 145 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: in the first couple of weeks, so suddenly you're down 146 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: to just Hilton and Wayne. And that's a problem. We 147 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: sell too much. I went back and watch the game, 148 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: saw too much Griff Whalen and Dominique Jones, and that's 149 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: a far cry from Dwayne Allen in t Y Hilton 150 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: or DHB. So Fleeter camp block Fleaner got Luck killed 151 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: on one play last week, so that just hurts a 152 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: team that's already pretty weak at tackle. Alright, k Rich, 153 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: what else is in the news? Cheer up a little bit? Now? 154 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: Next up you, I think I will chair up. If 155 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: you're a Saints fan, you're probably not happy about this news. 156 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: If you're a Bucks fan, you're definitely happy. So I'll 157 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: take the middle ground on this one. The suspension on 158 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: Buck's safety DeShawn Goldson for his hit on running back 159 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: Darren Sprawls has been overturned. It is now a one 160 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: thousand dollar fine, which I think ties with Sue's fine 161 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: last week, is the highest ever for an on fielding fraction. 162 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Does that sound right to everybody. I guess I mean, 163 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: for me is statement. But these fines, if you're not 164 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: going to suspend them in you know, West and I 165 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: talked about this last week, there's really not much you 166 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: can do to change whatever the mindset of the players is. 167 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: If they're intending to knock these guys out. I don't 168 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,239 Speaker 1: think we know that, but it's like a hundred thousand 169 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: dollars to sue is essentially taking like a diamond a 170 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: nickel out of my pocket. I've realized I'm in the 171 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: minority of football fans. I don't care, nor do I 172 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: have an opinion on fines or suspensions. I just don't care. Yeah, 173 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: it's to do whatever you want. I'm with you too 174 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: many fine stories. It's this is the first bad bit 175 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: of luck the Patriots have gotten on the schedule this year, though, 176 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: I mean, they have to faith to shot Gold. Interesting 177 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: after all these quarterbacks. And by the way, one thing 178 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: I will say, if you're going to suspend these guys, 179 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: suspend them. H ed read in November last year, and 180 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: now you have goals and they're they're getting suspended for 181 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: these hits, and then they appeal them and they get 182 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: knocked out. I mean you know, if you're gonna send 183 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: a message, send a mess. Well, maybe what they do, 184 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: and I don't want to belabor this rather dull news topic, 185 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: but maybe they point to precedent where the league frankly 186 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: is all over the place on how they rule on 187 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: some of these player hits. I mean, it's like they 188 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: do with something with one guy, the next guy based 189 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: on Rippy Patian completely different. Well, isn't that because there's 190 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: an arbitrator involved? That's how I think At that point 191 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: it's out of the commissioner's hands, But it seems how 192 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: that's how an appeal could be one if if there 193 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: is some back and forth. But you're gonna have to 194 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: step in here, a shadowy figure entering rich when you 195 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: sell this podcast, can you write that there's a lot 196 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: of arbitration talking And I have one for the Sizzler. 197 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: Not sure how he's going to react to this, but 198 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: the Browns announced that Brennan Hoyer will make this start 199 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: at QB in week three. Well it all turns around here. Well, 200 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: I responded to it initially about seven hours ago when 201 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: I had to write the post well before the sun 202 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: came up. Um, Well, sorry, you know it's it's for 203 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: me and I and again West Hopton, I am, and 204 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: we had a chat about this early. There are other 205 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: option was Jason Campbell, who I guess looks the part right. 206 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: He looks like an NFL quarterback, one of the most 207 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: proven guys to get you about a touchdown, buck fifty 208 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: in yardage, two interceptions and you will lose. He just 209 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: that's who he is. As a Browns fan, where you're 210 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: just searching for anything that could be possibly compelling, Hoyer 211 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: at least is an unknown the thing that jumps out 212 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: to me. I remember when the Bears signed Jason Campbell 213 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: last year, uh, I believe for a three million dollar 214 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: guaranteed contract. It was viewed as Wow, the Bears finally 215 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: smartened up and got a good quarterback behind Jay Cutler. 216 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: And then he had that one. I think it was 217 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: a Sunday night game where Houston Texas and now all 218 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's the third string quarterback in Cleveland 219 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: behind It was the Niners that crushed him for about 220 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: five or six sacks. This is not a surprise actually 221 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: out of Cleveland with Lombardi at the GM spot, I 222 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: mean they wanted him. Hoyer in that in the position 223 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: all along to back up or possibly lead them as 224 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: a starter. My my big takeaway is just that that 225 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: Lombardi is three year fascination, you know, uh flirtation within 226 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: set Brian Horder fetish, and it's finally been consummated. I mean, 227 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: Lombardi basically got back into the league just for the 228 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: express purpose of getting Hoyer a starting quarterback job, and 229 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: now here it is. Well, here's my question, and Mark 230 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: maybe you can answer it, or anybody can. Hoyer is 231 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: he going to keep the job if he has a 232 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: decent game, No way, I don't think. I don't think 233 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: as two touchdowns, I guess you know it's a quarterback controversy. 234 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: Is nothing new that this is their nine quarterback since 235 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: the will start a game for the team, So you know, 236 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: it's not as if they've had a consistent answer there 237 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: on any level. But I think the issue beyond this 238 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: season is then almost no matter what Weeden does, if 239 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: he comes back, outside of taking the playoffs, it's a 240 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: complete reshuffling at the position this off. Do you think 241 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: to answer the question, no, I said no, I don't 242 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: think that Weeden will be supplanted by Hoyer. No is 243 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: uh Moyer a younger man than Brandon Weedon. Yeah, yes, yes, 244 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: oh Man West set the age jokes. It's hilarious a lot, 245 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: but it's a very it's sore spot. It's a good question. 246 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm surprised no one's bringing in uh you know the 247 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: parallels to Drew Bledsoe getting knocked out and Tom Brady 248 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: coming in. This called this could change everything? Um alright? Good? 249 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: Uh kay, Rich. The only reason I came into work 250 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: today was to be part of the listening party for 251 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: your news theme songs. I think this is probably a 252 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: good time. Can you let it rip and we could 253 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: just dig in on this a little bit. Boys, the 254 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: time has finally come, by the way, so excited. I 255 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: haven't been this excited since Pearl Jam released Bytology. This 256 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: is a really big moment right now. I can't even 257 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: remember those days were three I was older than three. 258 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: All right, let her rip right off the back. Oh 259 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: there it is Buckers s. I feel like I should 260 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: be drinking from champagne, right Z. What do you guys say? Mark? 261 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: Technically clean? I like it technically clear? Yeah, strong West 262 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: me like early eighties uh soft rock with little jazz influence. 263 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: It reminds me a lot of the John Hamm episode 264 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: of Saturday Night Live. I don't know if you saw 265 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: that skit where he played Sergio, the crazy saxophonist who 266 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: would just break through things and and go wild. Yeah. 267 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: I kind of reminds me on when I was growing up. 268 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: Preview Guide used to be Channel three and there are 269 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: some wild sacks when you would just be looking down 270 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: the channels only way to see what was coming on next, 271 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: And it reminds me of that. I'm just amazed at 272 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: the budget that we have for you know, thirteen backup 273 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: singers singing ky Rich's name in the back, Hey, the 274 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: best for the best was that? Was that any of 275 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: your original vocals, Carbridge, it might be I don't I 276 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: don't want to bragized another voice in there too at 277 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: the beginning. That was Rich on the head. If you 278 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: are a check fan, that is the producer t d 279 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: also known as black Tie. Yes. So I thought he 280 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: did a great job. I really like it, Kay Rich. 281 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: I would give it. I would give it a hard 282 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: nine and a half out of ten. I love it. 283 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna see if we can get that on iTunes 284 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: for both of the people interested out there to purchase. Yeah, 285 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: and well, and uh yeah, kay, Rich, if you would 286 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: do as a favorite playing us out with the song 287 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the episode today as well. Problem 288 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: all right? Um, alright, moving right along before we get 289 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: into talking about Thursday night, Greg, you thought of it downstairs, 290 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: So why don't you tell us what we'll be talking 291 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: about next. Well, we've got all the oh and two 292 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: teams around the league. You know, some not so surprising Browns, Jaguars, 293 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: some some are surprising. Giants, Panthers would be in that mix. 294 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: Out of these teams, who do you think it is 295 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: in the most trouble that that you're actually worried? Maybe 296 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: he went into the season thinking they could be halfway decent. 297 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: I know Dan had half of these teams that nine 298 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: wins apparently, uh and and they're starting no one to 299 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: who are you legitimately concerned about? Now? I didn't think 300 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: the Jags or the Browns would be that great, But 301 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: I think there are two teams we can write off. 302 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: I know you guys think it's too early to write 303 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: the Browns off, but if you don't have a quarterback, 304 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: you've got a problem. The Buccaneers I'm writing off because 305 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: they're a laughing stock. They're about ready to implode and 306 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: they hate their head coach. Is that a problem you 307 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: hate your head coach? Well, sometimes it isn't, but in 308 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: this case, if you're not winning, it is. And I 309 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: might be about ready to write off the Panthers because 310 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: I hate what their offense is doing and uh, I 311 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: can't figure out what Mike Schill is doing at the 312 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: controls there. I'm gonna stick up for the Bucks a 313 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: little bit, and that they've lost. Their defense is played 314 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: very well for two straight weeks, and they've lost two 315 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: games in flukey fashion by one, by one point or 316 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: one score. Isn't it possible that they get it back together? 317 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: I mean, they have something going for them a lot 318 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: of these teams, don't. I agree with you. I think 319 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: the defense has played great. To me, they just are um, 320 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: they're about one more instant away from just like a 321 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: full on revolution in the locker room. Yeah, I mean 322 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: that's troubling. I I have a hard time. I think 323 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: you mentioned the Panthers West. I can't write them off 324 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: in the sense that they lost twelve seven in Seattle 325 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: and they lost on a last second drive to the 326 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: Bills last week. They're not far away, but there is issues, 327 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: but in terms of writing them off entirely, I see 328 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: things to like. On the defense, still we're losing in 329 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: the last minute. Is their move They're gonna use it. 330 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: It's I'm not sure we're talking about them going eleven 331 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: and five. My team has to be the Jags. I mean, 332 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how what I see there. Forget how 333 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: about the Steelers one of those I'm actually gonna go Giants. 334 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: I picked him to go six and ten. And I 335 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: don't have a problem with Eli Manning continuing to throw 336 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: three fifty yards in garbage time week after week. But 337 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: the defense, to me is the whole NFC East has 338 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: a suspect defense. Giants are right there in them, right 339 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: in there in the mix with them, and I don't 340 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: see them winning more than six games. I was crazy 341 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: disappointed by the Steelers on Monday night. I know Greg 342 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: is as well, because the Roethlisberger's his m VP pick, 343 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: and that's starting to look pretty grim. But you know, 344 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: they did again, they did not run the ball. And 345 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: but here's the thing, and we everybody thought that or 346 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: some people thought Big Ben was gonna help carry them. 347 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: He was a major problem they lost. He was a 348 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: major reason they lost on Monday. He was not accurate 349 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: with his throws. He threw the pick at the end 350 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: was on him. Um And now they have a situation 351 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: where they have Chicago coming in uh to their building 352 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: where they you know, oh and three, you're dead. Let's 353 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: face it, and do I do I think that Pittsburgh 354 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: is going to win? I don't know, because now I'm 355 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: not convinced that there are any good right now. Out 356 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: of all of the teams that we're talking about, they 357 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: are the one team that has help on the way 358 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: with Levan Bell and Heath Miller, and if they decide 359 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: to make Marcus wheat and a big part of their offense, 360 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: and that's the major problem right now is the offense. 361 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: They can't move the ball because they have no speed 362 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: and no playmaking ability. If those three guys enter the mix, 363 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: maybe the season will be over by that point. But 364 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: they at least have some guys that can come in 365 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: and change what they're doing. And their defense hasn't been bad. 366 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: It's obviously has the pedigree. I don't like the fact 367 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: that they're so thin at certain positions that Kian Wilson 368 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: is starting. You know, paulse And is starting at tight end. 369 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: Chris had a great stat UH this week that they 370 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: only have five players from the last five draft classes 371 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: that have started ten games or more for the team, 372 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: which is insane. They haven't drafted well. But my team 373 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: I think that's been the most is concerning is the 374 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: Washington Redskins, And like the Steelers, they're in a bad 375 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: division at least to start off the year, everyone stuck 376 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: at one and one. But I think this Redskins defense 377 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: could be bad for good. And I think it was 378 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: pretty bad last year and they played well at the 379 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: end of the year and that made up for everyone forgot. 380 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: So even if RG three gets better, to me, this 381 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: Washington team, I think UH could be disappointed all year. 382 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: That's my pick. You know, the whole NFC East has 383 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: defenses ranked twenty or lower right now, and the Eagles 384 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: I think are the second worst, and the Redskins right 385 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: in there too. And I watched I re watched that 386 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: Redskins game, and you're right, it's like r G three 387 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: probably will ascend in beyond get beyond war years right now, 388 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: no question, But that defense, I don't know what fixes 389 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: that defense. If you want to play Devil's advocate you 390 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: can say they faced the Eagles in the first game, 391 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: which of Chip kelly revolutionizing offense in the NFL, and 392 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: then faced Aaron Rodgers in a Packers offense that nobody 393 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: is going to say. They were the guinea pigs in 394 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: that first half against Philadelphia and no other team had 395 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: to deal with going in with no tape and they 396 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: did not survive that. But then, right, you get an 397 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: angry Packers team that's coming off at forts lost a 398 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: tough early drawal. I've seen too many Jim Haslet defenses 399 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: in Washington. I've seen too many Mike Shanahan defenses for 400 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: the last fifteen years to just think that they'll just 401 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: get better. There's one team we haven't mentioned that they 402 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: always seem to be under the radar despite having the 403 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: best running back in the world, the Vikings. Does anybody 404 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: think that they can uh put it together? We all 405 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: have them in the last place. I think going into 406 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: the air didn't right, and nobody well know what everybody 407 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: picked against them last year too. And I think all 408 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: of these teams, they have the most talent on both 409 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: sides of the ball, but they also have the quarterback issue. 410 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: When I have a hard time backing teams with a quarterback. 411 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: They're in a tough Division two. I mean it like 412 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: Detroit looks legit where they weren't last season. A lot 413 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: went right from Minnesota last year, pretty much everything, And 414 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: I just I think we're getting an early indication that 415 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: it's not going to go smooth it off. Well, who 416 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: is Dan's picked? Do you have a pick? Uh for 417 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: the team that I thinks in the most trouble Steelers? 418 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: I really yeah, I really think everything you're seeing they're 419 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: just too many holes. And uh yeah, you you want 420 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: to think that Roethlisberger can rise above. But and you 421 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: say they have help coming on the way. We don't 422 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: even know what even Tomlin himself said yesterday with Heath Miller. 423 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: You know he's not gonna be coming out of a 424 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: phone booth wearing a Superman cape. You know, I mean this, 425 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: He's gonna take a while to get back. We have 426 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: no idea what Bell will give you at this point. 427 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: So there are too many question marks for me right 428 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: now to think I'm gonna you know, I think I'll 429 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: probably pick them to win on Sunday because I don't know. 430 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: I just find it hard to see him Mike Thomas, 431 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: You're completely indecisive. No, because I really know, because I 432 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: really I went fourteen and two last week. But so 433 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: just pipe down. Um yeah, no, I just it's hard 434 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: for me to see Tomlin Roethlisberger team start owing three. 435 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: But maybe this is the year it happens. So we 436 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: all picked, you know, the team we think is in trouble. 437 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: What what team out of that group do you think 438 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: will come back still be a factor and make some 439 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: noise after starting two. Let's start with Mark Sessler. I 440 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: am going to uh go Panthers because I love their 441 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: front seven. Like I said before, they lost two tight games. 442 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: Look at none of these teams are, you know, rolling 443 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: into January on fire. But I think I think the 444 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: Carolina is gonna salvage and ugly start. I've I've seen 445 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: them lose to when the games on the fourth quarter 446 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: to think that that's not gonna stop personally, So we 447 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: know who Mark's picking this week in the Battle of 448 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: the O and two's between New York at Carolina. Not necessarily, 449 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: I could see them stick themselves out of that resilient No, 450 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not sure I get I I don't 451 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: love any of these why I have visions of last 452 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: year's game between the Giants and Panthers at Carolina when 453 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: the Giants, when Ramsas Bardon and Andre Brown rolled over 454 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: the Panthers. And we'll talk about that more on Friday, 455 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: where we preview all the games. But what a big 456 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: game that is for Week three. It's weird because kind 457 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: of the bad teams have the bigger games, and to me, 458 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: that's probably the biggest game of the week. It's always 459 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: great when two oh and two teams face each other 460 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: because there it's almost a playoff game. If you look 461 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: at the numbers, Um, how many oh and three teams 462 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: have made it? I'm sure it's only a handful. So 463 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: you need to win that game. So West, who's here? 464 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: Who's your team you think comes back? I am siding 465 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: with the Sissler here the Panthers, as much as I 466 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: don't trust Mike Shula. This this reminds me of their 467 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: start from last year. They got off to a slow 468 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: start and then they were on fire down the stretch. Um, 469 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, I love their front seven star Littula is 470 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: like one of four young defensive tackles that I see 471 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: jumping off the film every week. Now. Um, and you 472 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: know that offense just has to play better. Right, do 473 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: they have the best quarterback of this group? I guess 474 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: you got Eli Manning in there, but big quarter I 475 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: would agree. I would have to have no choice but 476 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: to agree. And I'm not ready to say that Cam 477 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: Newton's great until he starts playing better. I just that 478 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: footwork issue that I've been talking about all offseason and 479 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: all summer. It's still terrible. In there were plays I 480 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: watched two or three series in a row in the 481 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: second quarter where their entire offense was running to Angelo 482 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: Williams into the stack for two yards and then Cam 483 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: Newton thrown it as far as he could downfield over 484 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: everybody's head. I think, someone what's going on with that? 485 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: There needs to be like a van kidnapping of Mike Shula, 486 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: and they need to bring someone in. Yeah, I mean 487 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: I get him out, replace him with someone who can 488 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: think creatively on some level about moving the ball. And 489 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: we're rolling. When you're counting on you know, a felony 490 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: to come save your season, I think you're in trouble. 491 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: And that's why I like the New York Giants, out 492 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: of all these teams, to bounce back and be a factor. 493 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: Half of Manning's interceptions, especially three of them last week. 494 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: We're flukey and very game specific. I'll take a guy 495 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: that can move up and down the field with some 496 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: talented players and throw some interceptions you can get, you 497 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: can fix the interceptions. I think he's the best quarterback 498 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: of this group, and you don't need to kidnap Kevin 499 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: Gilbride to save their season. Um. But by the way, 500 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: what buddy Ryan be driving that van? Why not? He's 501 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: got nothing else. That's a long plotted out revenge skiing. Um. 502 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: I Also, I think the Giants and the Redskins. I 503 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: would not be surprised if either of those teams won 504 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: nine games still, even despite this start. So those will 505 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: be the two teams I would pick. But you're supposed 506 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: to pick one team would well again, I'll pick the Redskins. 507 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: Redskins who I picked, and win the division. And you 508 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: know you should listen to my picks because I went 509 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: fourteen and two last week. Did I mention that? Yeah 510 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: a few times up here? All right, let's move on. 511 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: Let's do some Thursday night football talk, a little Thursday 512 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: night preview. This is do we have a name for 513 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: this this chatter? Right? Now the Thursday night preview. All right, 514 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: bang Kansas City in Philadelphia. Greg start us off, Well, 515 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: I've been really impressed with the Chiefs defense in general. 516 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's the same group that we said was 517 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: so talented last year with Romeo Cornell who couldn't bring 518 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: out the talent in that group for whatever reason. And 519 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: Sutton comes into Kansas City. That's really his defense, and 520 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: it's these Rex Ryan assistants doing well. Mike Patton in Buffalo, 521 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: Sutton in Kansas City. They're flying around. Flowers is playing well, 522 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: Eric Berry's healthy again, don Terry po Uh is totally 523 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: making the leap, breaking out at nose tackle. And so 524 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm really excited too. From two weeks in, I think 525 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have been one of the best defenses in 526 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: the league. And now they play the Eagles. So what 527 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: a great matchup that's gonna be. Yeah, I think it's 528 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: gonna take us still a while to figure out who 529 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles are. New layers are gonna be revealed weeks week. 530 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: This is this is a game to find out who 531 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are though, because like you said, on defense, 532 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: can they do what teams have not been able to 533 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: do against the Eagles, which has hold them to less 534 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: than thirty points, and honestly, Philadelphia could have scored fifty 535 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: last game if a few things have gone a little 536 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: bit differently for the Chiefs on offense. And I watched 537 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: them on the all twenty two. I find them interesting, 538 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: but they seem really limited if they get into a 539 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: track meet, and it's gonna be real interest seem to 540 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: see against one of what I think might be the 541 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: worst defense in football right now south of Washington, which 542 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: is the I guess is it maybe more west of Washington, 543 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: but the Eagles defense is a disaster. And if if 544 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: the Chiefs can't go in and put the points up, 545 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: that tells you that they're gonna have issues doing that 546 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: all year. I think Alex Smith has definitely been exactly 547 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: what they wanted to be him to be to this point, 548 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: although we it should be said that he is flirting 549 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: a bit with the Gabbard zone. Uh he is. He 550 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: is averaging five points seven yards per pass, So that 551 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: speaks to your point, Mark that if this becomes a 552 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: high scoring game, maybe this is not what His rushing 553 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: averages it higher than his yards per attempt. His rushing 554 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: average is six point eight yards is, by the way, 555 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: the same as Colin Kaepernick's on the news right now, 556 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: and he has more rushing yards than the Pittsburgh Steelers 557 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: this year too. So I mean, they did some fun 558 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: things on tape. You probably saw that they were running 559 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: a little read option, some pistol and it was working. 560 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: I know you watched the out of the Eagles. Let's oh, sorry, 561 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: the first play was a triple option against the last game. 562 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: It's a bizarre pub Let's talk about the Chip Kelly effect. 563 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: Dan and I both went back and rewatch this game 564 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: and noticed Deshan Jackson and Michael Vick just missed on 565 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: a seventy nine yard throw, a sixty nine yard throw, 566 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: and they had a thirty seven yard touchdown called back 567 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: literally Jackson setting the receiving record. If those two things happened, 568 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: Jackson would have set the receiving record. Vic would have 569 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: set the passing record for one game. This isn't a 570 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: game where the Chargers had time of possession by twenty 571 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: minute advantage and slowed the Eagles offense down and they 572 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: still almost set records. They still scored thirty points. And 573 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, let's see, Deshan Jackson has six plays of 574 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: twenty or more yards this year. Should have had nine. 575 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: Last year he had nine all year. Let's Shawn McCoy. 576 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: Only fifteen players in NFL history have more yards from 577 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: scrimmage than he's had through two games. Who's who's stopping 578 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: Deshan Jackson is more receiving yards in the entire or 579 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans well, and he has a third of his 580 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: catches from last year already. And honestly, I think the 581 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: record is Flipper Anderson around three thirty three or so. 582 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: For I think that he will beat that two or 583 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: more times this season with no issues. A t L 584 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: is saying, trade for every Eagle you could possibly get 585 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: your hands on in fantasy league can slow him down. 586 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: You don't think anybody would slow this offense down. Well, 587 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: only injuries could completely sidetrack the Eagles and make them 588 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: something different. Game by game we might see someone that 589 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: uses I think it almost you need your offense to 590 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: slow them down. You need to ball control the thing forever. 591 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: But they score so quickly, I'm not sure the time 592 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: of possession that even matters. I think the tempo gets 593 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: most of the attention and that's not really what's at 594 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: the at the heart of this offense right now. I 595 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: don't want to get in too much like football won't talk. 596 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: But here's like a cliff Notes version of what okay. 597 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: So these aren't my thought thoughts. This is from hearing 598 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: Jaws and Greg cos All and reading Chris Brown. Basically, 599 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 1: what they're doing, they're running uh an up tempo offense 600 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: just so the quarterback can have a static defense to 601 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: read before he gets the line of scrims. The difference 602 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: between what they're doing is that Vic is doing right 603 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: after the snap what guys like Peyton, Manning, Brady and 604 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: Breezes are doing before the snap reading the defense. So 605 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: Vic Vic goes up to the line with like uh 606 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: five options. He can hand at the McCoy, he can 607 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: run it himself. He can do a bubble scream to 608 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: Deshaan Jackson and do a slant to a Vaunt, or 609 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: you can do a pop pass to Brent Sellek. This 610 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: is whether you're going to line with every time, and 611 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: it depends on how he's reading the defense, what he's 612 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: gonna do right after the snap. And I don't know 613 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: that anybody's gonna be able to stop that. I agree 614 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: with you. We never doing some of those package plays 615 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: with the Redskins last year, maybe not quite as many options, 616 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: but I think that's part of the reason they were 617 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: so effective. Well, we saw that with Philly in the 618 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: preseason against the Patriots. They you know, when you talk 619 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 1: about the bubble screens, there's four guys sitting out there. 620 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: It's not one guy plus the running back. And what 621 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: I what surprises me a little bit is all were 622 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: it is. It's gonna be run heavy, run heavy, and 623 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: it is obviously with the speed that they operate. But 624 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: Vic has been firing the ball deep in that Chargers game, 625 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: over and over the defense, and like Coastal and Joel said, 626 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: he didn't have much accuracy the first game, but the 627 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: important thing was he was making the right reads. He 628 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: was choosing, He was reading the defense whale and choosing 629 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: which play to run every time. Well, you said nothing's 630 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: gonna slow them down. The thing that could slow him 631 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: down is Michael Vick. How many times have we seen 632 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: him be a consistent great quarterback through the course of 633 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: the season. So you gotta counting him staying at this level. 634 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's go around the room. Who do you 635 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: got in this game? Since I am really decisive. I 636 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: will go first, and I will say the Eagles will 637 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: move to two and one and hand the Chiefs their 638 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: first loss, and ky Ridge pumped her fists. I'll go 639 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: with the Eagles too. I like Greg. I love what 640 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: I've seen from the Chiefs defense, and I think they're legit. 641 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: But I think playing against this offense is different than 642 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: playing against another offense in the NFL. Mark. Yeah. I 643 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: look at Philly and I feel like they've grown a 644 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: little bit each week and we're seeing a little bit 645 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: more and I feel like we haven't had that game 646 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: yet where it's like the entire league is completely un alert. 647 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna drop about fifty five points on 648 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: Kansas City and it's going to be the story of 649 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: the week. I'm taking the under with that. I like this. 650 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: I like this Chiefs defense and think they can give 651 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: them problems because it still comes down to players, and 652 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: they have a lot of good ones, so I think 653 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: it'll be lower scoring. But I like the Eagles. The 654 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: Chiefs are going to be in these toss up games 655 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: every week, and you know it's in Philadelphia short week. 656 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 1: Go with the home team. I'm really proud of you guys. 657 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: I like to point out I'm the only one that 658 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: had them winning the division before the season. You did. 659 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: Nobody's ever pointed out before. Um. All right, so before 660 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: we go, it's time to bring it back, the game 661 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: that America is buzzing about. I mean everyone's talking about it. 662 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: I can't walk down the street or go to the 663 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: grocery store somebody coming up to me and saying, did 664 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: when is when? When West's toaster coming back? None of 665 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: this is true. However, it is back, and we're gonna 666 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: play it again when West's toaster. K Rich is behind 667 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: the glass. She has um before we get to that. Actually, West, 668 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: it's very important that you do well today. I'm feeling confident. 669 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm riding high right now. It's very important. Well. I 670 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: feel like the first time we played, West gave a 671 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: decent performance, but at the same time, he was underwhelming. 672 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: You can say it. He did not. It was a 673 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: little underwhelming. You did not project dominance, which is did 674 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: not deliver. Yes, yes, Cliff Claven delivers how I need 675 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: West to deliver. And Greg, who wants a segment destroyed well, 676 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: Westley one, I'm rooting against you. I'm rooting for our caller. 677 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm considering making up another hair appointment just so I 678 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: can leave for this segment and be done with the trivia. 679 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: Fair enough? Alright, so West, Uh the entire rooms counting 680 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: on you. Uh k Rich, Do we have a caller contestant? 681 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: I should say, welcome in, Eli, Eli? Are you there there? 682 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot of pressure because Eli was talking a 683 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: lot of smack on Twitter? Was he really talking on Twitter? 684 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: And avous? Don't be nervous. Don't be nervous. Hey, Eli, 685 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: where are you from? I'm actually Fromburgh? Oh nice? Are 686 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: you a Steelers guy? Hell no, I'm a Titans fan. Yeah, 687 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: you enjoyed that week one. Not to put more pressure 688 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 1: on you, but this is not a normal toaster. This 689 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: is a toaster where you can press the Tennessee Titans 690 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: logo and have your toast come out with the Titans 691 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: logo on it. It's two technology getting excited about it. 692 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: All right? So, um are you Eli? Are you aware 693 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: of the rules of the game. Did you listen to 694 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: it the first time we played? No? Well, all right, 695 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: we'll get off the phone something now here we go? 696 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: These are this is the rule of wind West's toaster. 697 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: You're gonna get asked six questions, and West will also 698 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: be asked the same six questions, but he will be 699 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: out of the room, so you cannot hear your answers. Um, 700 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: you will answer those questions, and then you have the 701 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: ability to pass if you want to go to the 702 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: next one if you're stumped, and then come back to it. 703 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 1: But at the end of the questions, you say, stop 704 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: the clock. We stop the clock. We tabulated how many 705 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: answers you gave us. Then we bring in West, and 706 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: West does the same six questions. Whoever gets the most 707 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: questions right wins the toaster or keeps the toaster. And 708 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: if you both have the same amount of correct answers, Uh, 709 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: it comes down to the clock. Who answered their questions 710 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: in in the fastest manner, And there is a one 711 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: minute time limit. We cannot go over one because a 712 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: one minute time limits, so keep that in mind. I 713 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: don't want any hear any googling of the answers. You 714 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: just gotta go now, Eli, I didn't think you whoa 715 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: shot across Greg's bow. All right, all right, so let's 716 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: do this. West. You can now leave the premises for 717 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: the time being. He's gonna go behind the glass. Eli, 718 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 1: are you ready Mark Susler is the man on the clock. 719 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: Mark a lot of freshman Mark to get the clock. 720 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: This did not go well last time. It's going to 721 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: be smooth, all right, So here comes the questions. The 722 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: clock starts when I start reading the questions, and I'll 723 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: ask you if you're ready to stop the clock, and 724 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: you say stop the clock and we're done. Here we go. 725 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski was drafted in the second round of the 726 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: two thousand NFL Draft out of what school Arizona? What 727 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 1: team did Steve Young play for before the forty nine 728 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: Where was Super Bowl thirty five held the side of 729 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots first championship? What was the name of the 730 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: Packers guards stopped by and Dominican sue on Thanksgiving two 731 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: thousand eleven? Oh my gosh? Can I pass that? Ye? 732 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: Where is the Jets practice facility located? Who scored the 733 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: winning touchdown in the Music City Miracle in the playoffs? 734 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: On that? All right? Do you want to go back 735 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: or do you want to stop the clock? Yeah, I 736 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: want to go back. I want to say New Orleans 737 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl? Okay? And then um I want 738 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: to say Chris Wells Okay. I need more, I need 739 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: more detail, by the way on time. Okay, should we 740 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: give him? Should we give him New Orleans for the 741 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: sight of the page? Okay? I was gonna say super alright, alright, 742 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: guess what you got? Looks like you had one too, recorrect? 743 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: Did well? All right, Let's bring West in here since 744 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: he swaggered in. Man's a man that looks like And 745 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: look at the calf's on West as he walks in 746 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: as well, just really well shaped, it like a statue. Almost. Alright, West, 747 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: sitting down you We will not tell you what you need. Um, 748 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 1: we will tell you that your opponent. No, I won't 749 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: tell you that either. I will tell you nothing. Here 750 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: we go. Are you ready? Yes? Rob Gronkowski was drafted 751 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: in the second round of the two thousand and ten 752 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: NFL Draft out of what school, Arizona? What team did 753 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: Steve Young play for before the forty Niners? Tampa Bay Buccaneers? 754 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: Where was Super Bowl thirty five held the site of 755 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots first championship? Oh? Who knows? Um? Who knows 756 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: where Super Bowls are played? Wasn't it dumb? Wasn't New Orleans? 757 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: I'll go with what was the name of the Packers? 758 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: Guards stomped by and Dominican Sue on Thanksgiving two thousand, 759 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: even Dietrick Smith, where is the Jets practice facility located 760 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: the meadowlands on a swamp? Who scored the winning touchdown 761 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: in the Music City Miracle in the playoffs? Frank White, chick, 762 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: that's it? Stop the clock. That looks like West got 763 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: four in forty five seconds to beat Eli, who had 764 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 1: three in sixty seconds. Wes, you have kept your toaster nice? 765 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: Frank White checks right, Eli? That was you put up 766 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: a good battle, but West brought his a game today. 767 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: Did I get to New Orleans one after? I mean, 768 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 1: you did your meandered and got it right? Uh yeah, 769 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: az on the state for Gronkowski like an idiot. Yeah 770 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: that that cost you ultimately, but you would have lost 771 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 1: on tie breaker anyway, So don't feel bad. Eli. Thank 772 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: you for listening and thank you for playing when West 773 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: is toaster? Yeah? Thanks all right. By the way, for 774 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: the ends, both of you guys missed where is the 775 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: Jets practice facility? Because nobody cares Flora Park, New Jersey personnel, 776 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, everything else was covered. So West, I'm 777 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: very excited about this because that means we keep playing 778 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: in the future. Greg. It looks sullen in the corner 779 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: unless no one responds to our request for contestants. We 780 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: had to put somebody off today, Yeah we did somebody. Yeah, 781 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: somebody has to go next time. But uh, alright, so 782 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,959 Speaker 1: great job, Wes. Thank you. You've restored my faith really 783 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: in humanity right there. Um, thank you, and uh are 784 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: nice to thank the academy. Uh yeah, don't use the 785 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: out of respect to Eli to try not to is 786 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: the Titans one because I feel like that's gonna hurt 787 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: them a lot if you. Yeah, okay, alright, so that 788 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: is it for today's show. Anybody, Uh, nobody got anything 789 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: to say? One question on the toast real fast. Let's 790 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: say you are a Steelers fan. Are you ever going 791 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: to be putting insignias of others other teams on this 792 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: piece of bread. It just seems like a bizarre because 793 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: the top toast beats the bottom toast. So you for 794 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: your Steelers, you want the top bread to be the 795 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and then maybe the Bengals on the bottom, and 796 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: you make up for last months. Maybe you have some 797 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: friends over the house, make them toast specialized for their 798 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,760 Speaker 1: favorite If you actually use the toaster from a practical 799 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: perspective it you're probably very lonely, which is this is 800 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: why our country is just floating off the rails. Possibly. Okay, 801 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: that's it for today's show. Uh there's that music again 802 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: for a while. That's a great move right there. Hey, 803 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: so that's it for today's show. Uh. Friday, we will 804 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 1: recap Thursday night gain talk at all the week three games, 805 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: so look add to that. But for now, just listen 806 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: to the stylence. Hey, let's just Steve so oh her 807 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: th