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Speaker 3: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 3: here in the factory. How was Disney World magical?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, legitimately magical, Skeets, I might just be a Disney adult.

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Speaker 4: Who do you have on your I got the thunder

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Speaker 2: They shot seventy seven percent over the last three quarters.

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Speaker 2: They got downhill seventy six points in the paint, but

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Speaker 2: Miami Heat. And I just wonder if Tyres Alberton was

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Speaker 3: Well. I hope he plays. Didn't he miss the game

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Speaker 2: When they scored one hundred and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like he missed that game, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's a hell of It's weird to see a box

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Speaker 3: weird to see one hundred and forty four points against

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Speaker 3: I can't remember, but just Miami Heat three six.

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Speaker 4: That's right. It must not have played on that court

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Speaker 4: that game ninety nine times out of one hundred. I

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Speaker 4: shall see. That's not what Tim bontemps this time was

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah. I think they're Keevin Mo for another

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Speaker 3: All right, but the Pacers get a nice winner of

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Speaker 4: I'm giving a winner of the weekend to Rudy Gobert.

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Speaker 4: He came into Saturday's game against the Hornets. Question. We

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Speaker 4: seen from a man who's questionable. That's a funny quote

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Speaker 4: questionable fair enough. Also just the idea that Carl Anthony

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Speaker 4: like dub from Minnesota, I thought they shot thirty free throws,

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Speaker 4: fifty eight points in the paint, and their bigs really

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Speaker 4: Carl Anthony Towns went for twenty eight to his own,

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Speaker 4: and then when he got into foul trouble, Nazrid did

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Speaker 4: his thing in Towns's absence. He scored twenty three. Kind

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Speaker 4: of surprised to see this. Karl Anthony Towns and nas

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Speaker 4: both bigs. The Timberwolves weird. That's weird. Minnesota first place

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Speaker 3: Great game. Great game. The Wolves, man, they just continue

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Speaker 3: Any thoughts on on Rude.

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Speaker 2: Rude, Yeah, he doesn't sit out games. And then you

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Speaker 3: Good seventy win percentage right now.

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Speaker 2: They just defend every single game, so they will be

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Speaker 2: in every single game without Anthony Edwards. Karl Anthony Towns

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Speaker 3: Winner of the weekend to Trey Murphy the third. He

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Speaker 3: and he looked good. Scored eighteen points in twenty two

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Speaker 2: But I think.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's good to go tonight against the Kings in the

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Speaker 3: and he's just another shooter and a guy that can

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Speaker 3: attack and more length of there for New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: That's true. He's their best shooter. They need him. He

432
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Speaker 2: had over two hundred threes last year, shot ten in

433
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Speaker 2: his one game that he came back. Just let him

434
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Speaker 2: rip and it helps Zion Wimson. Undoubtedly they need shooters. Yeah, exactly.

435
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Speaker 4: They're twenty seventh in the league and three pointers made

436
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 4: at just a shade under eleven. Their best shooters right

437
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 4: now are a rookie and Jordan Hawkins, and an end

438
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Speaker 4: of the bench guy really in Matt Ryan, who has

439
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Speaker 4: done a good job since being there. But you would

440
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Speaker 4: love to see one of your young stars be able

441
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Speaker 4: to perform consistently, and definitely Trey Murphy's gonna give him that.

442
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Speaker 4: It'll be a question of how long can all these

443
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Speaker 4: guys stay on the court together. That's all the only

444
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Speaker 4: question with the Pelicans, because it makes sense when you

445
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Speaker 4: see their team together. You need some guys who are

446
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Speaker 4: going to stretch the floor aroundside. A masher like Zion

447
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,479
Speaker 4: alongside Yonas Valencunis who likes to get inside. He likes

448
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Speaker 4: to shoot a three every now and then. It just

449
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 4: takes him forever to get it up. So having a

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Speaker 4: guy with a quick trigger like Trey Murphy, that's big time.

451
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Speaker 4: A couple other winners just quickly. Here Kevin Durant moving

452
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Speaker 4: into tenth place on the NBA's all time scoring list.

453
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Speaker 4: He keeps going up this list. Terrence Ross, saying goodbye

454
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Speaker 4: to the NBA, officially announced his retirement winter of the

455
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Speaker 4: weekend because he got to see a bunch of cool Terrence.

456
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Speaker 3: Ross dunks and highlights. I know, dunk comp put together

457
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 3: a great one on Instagram and Twitter. I always forget

458
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Speaker 3: some of the dunks he had. I mean there's raptors fans.

459
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Speaker 3: We got some, but even some like in his Orlando days.

460
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Speaker 3: You're like, holy crap.

461
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Speaker 2: And a good dunker. Yeah, good player, good player. Yeah,

462
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Speaker 2: I'm a little surprised this young early thirties. Yeah, why not.

463
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Speaker 2: He was playing for the Suns last year, but listening

464
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Speaker 2: to his his whole spiel on his podcast, I didn't

465
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 2: realize he had a podcast, but he just said, I'm

466
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Speaker 2: kind of done.

467
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Speaker 4: I like being quite a lot about his career. To

468
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Speaker 4: me when I saw that, and why contending teams weren't

469
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Speaker 4: giving up first round picks despite the fact he was

470
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Speaker 4: in a lot of trade rumors at the end of

471
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Speaker 4: his career. When he retired, was like, yeah, I'm good.

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Speaker 2: Who needs a ring? Okay.

473
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Speaker 3: Paul George, also a little bit of an NBA weekend winner,

474
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Speaker 3: hit a big game winning three in a big comeback

475
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Speaker 3: for the Clippers against the Warriors. I know we'll talk

476
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Speaker 3: about them when we get to or next segment. Anyone

477
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Speaker 3: else I missed any other teams players.

478
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Speaker 4: Devin Booker's back still good, You're still good. Yeah. I

479
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 4: was considering the Suns as a winner just because of

480
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Speaker 4: Durant and Booker as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I put Sharp down too, shitt and Sharp had

482
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Speaker 3: one of the best Dunks of the Year early year

483
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Speaker 3: in traffic there did he punch it on?

484
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Speaker 4: Was it on?

485
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Speaker 3: Kessler?

486
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Speaker 2: It was?

487
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a pretty nasty one. I mean, obviously

488
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Speaker 3: has the hops. We'd love to see him in a

489
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Speaker 3: dunk contest, but yeah, lots to pick from. I'm sure

490
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Speaker 3: we miss some. You tell us in the stream team

491
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Speaker 3: in the comments, tweet at us at no dunk sink?

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Speaker 3: Who are your NBA weekend winners? We're gonna take a

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Speaker 3: quick break and when we come back, the losers of

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Speaker 3: the NBA weekend. All right, let's pivot to losers of

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Speaker 3: the NBA weekend. Trey, Why don't you get us started?

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Speaker 3: Who who's your big loser?

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Speaker 4: You mentioned it earlier, Skeates. I couldn't decide if the

498
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Speaker 4: Clippers Warriors was going to get a winner for Paul

499
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Speaker 4: George hitting the game winner or a loser for Golden

500
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Speaker 4: State blowing the lead. And then I read Anthony Slater's

501
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Speaker 4: gamer about this game and it starts like this. The

502
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Speaker 4: only reason Saturday's twenty two point blown lead wasn't the

503
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Speaker 4: second largest in game collapse in the Steve Kerr era

504
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 4: is because four ninths prior to the Golden State Warriors

505
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Speaker 4: coughed away a twenty four point lead in Sacramento.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this is a bad, bad run here for them.

507
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Speaker 4: Not great to blow twenty point leads in the second

508
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 4: half of a game twice in the same week. I

509
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 4: thought this was bad on both sides for Golden State.

510
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 4: They could not get a stop in the second half.

511
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Speaker 4: The Clippers shot fifty seven percent in the third and

512
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Speaker 4: fourth quarters. It was kind of James Harden was on fire,

513
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Speaker 4: then Kawhi was on fire, and then Paul George capped

514
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Speaker 4: things off. Those three outscored Golden State forty seven to

515
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Speaker 4: forty five in the second half. On the other end,

516
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Speaker 4: the Warriors just went cold thirty four percent in the

517
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Speaker 4: second half, including Steph Curry going one for ten from

518
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Speaker 4: the field in quarters three and four. He could have

519
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 4: iced the game up to twenty seconds left, had a

520
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Speaker 4: step back, missed it about eighteen feet, rattled out whatever.

521
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Speaker 4: On the other end, Paul George, they get the stop,

522
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Speaker 4: Russell westbrok Gris the rebound, gets it to Paul George.

523
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Speaker 4: Paul George hits a step back three right in Clay's face,

524
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Speaker 4: first lead of the game for the Clippers. On the

525
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Speaker 4: other end, Curry drives into the lane, find Straymond Green

526
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Speaker 4: from the corner. Pretty good look for three. He'd made

527
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Speaker 4: four in the first half. That's a fair luck, but

528
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Speaker 4: he missed this one to potentially win it. So Golden

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Speaker 4: State took another loss. They've lost nine of their last

530
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Speaker 4: twelve here. They've got no Chris Paul, no Wiggins in

531
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Speaker 4: this one, and Gary Payton the second is out as well,

532
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Speaker 4: So it's just kind of piling up for Golden State

533
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Speaker 4: right now. I guess, uh, Kevin Garnett is now saying

534
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Speaker 4: that he doesn't see this as a playoff team. Maybe

535
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Speaker 4: they're a playing team. Certainly reasonable. There's not that many

536
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Speaker 4: spots in the top six, only six of them by

537
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Speaker 4: my count, So yeah, Golden State's got to figure out

538
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Speaker 4: something here. They were complaining, we don't have Chris Paul

539
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Speaker 4: in this one to play good clutch basketball down the end.

540
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Speaker 4: Fair enough, but you also haven't had him for you know,

541
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Speaker 4: the first ten years of your dynasty. You should be

542
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Speaker 4: able to figure out how to play some clutch games here.

543
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Speaker 4: It's after a strong start for Golden State, things have

544
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Speaker 4: really really fallen off. I guess you can be a

545
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Speaker 4: little bit encouraged that Kay Thompson's finding his way a

546
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Speaker 4: little bit here, but they got to figure out a

547
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Speaker 4: way to actually get some wins before they fall too

548
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Speaker 4: far behind here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at their schedule. They play the Nuggets

550
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Speaker 3: on Christmas Day, and luckily for them, they play within

551
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Speaker 3: this gap here basically in December until Christmas Day. They

552
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Speaker 3: play the Blazers twice. Excuse me, they play the Blazers

553
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Speaker 3: three times, so that's probably good for them. They play

554
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Speaker 3: the Wizards as well, and those are the only bad

555
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Speaker 3: teams because then you got like the Thunder, the Suns,

556
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Speaker 3: the Clippers, the Nets are a decent team, and the Celtics.

557
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Speaker 3: So yeah, what's the record going to become? That Christmas

558
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Speaker 3: Day game against Denver could be sub five hundred or

559
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Speaker 3: at least maybe they'll be happy probably to be around

560
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Speaker 3: there or one game above. But yeah, the way they're

561
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Speaker 3: closing these games or giving up these leads, tass is

562
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Speaker 3: just it's a little perplexing for a team that's been there,

563
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 3: done that a lot of times.

564
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Speaker 2: It is weird. Yeah, they are talking a lot about

565
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Speaker 2: Chris Paul and the bench not playing all that well

566
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Speaker 2: and not coming down to the wire with Moses Moody

567
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: was sat by. Steve Kerr thought they needed him desperately,

568
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Speaker 2: so he called it a mistake. But the Paul George shot,

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Speaker 2: I was a little surprised how he was just able

570
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Speaker 2: to just walk into that. He obviously felt good and

571
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Speaker 2: just make that thing pretty pretty shot from him.

572
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Speaker 3: Task Who do you have for a loser of the

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Speaker 3: NBA Weekend?

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to talk about the Nets and Ben

575
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Speaker 2: Simmons being out for this long, because it was only

576
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Speaker 2: a few weeks ago. Head coach Joc Vaughn was asked

577
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Speaker 2: about Ben Simmons being out, he'd been already been out

578
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks and he said, this century

579
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Speaker 2: is not a big deal. It really has nothing to

580
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Speaker 2: do with what he was dealing with last year and

581
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Speaker 2: this weekend. Ben Simmons received an epidural injection to aid

582
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Speaker 2: in that recovery from his lower back that he was

583
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: out for every single game after the All Star break

584
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: last year and basically the entire season of the year before,

585
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Speaker 2: obviously with some off court issues included in that. But

586
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Speaker 2: he hasn't played since November sixth. That's a long time

587
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: for back problems. Now he's been their starter and he

588
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 2: obviously doesn't want to shoot. That's not part of his

589
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: game really, but he averaged six and a half points,

590
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: ten point eight boards, and six point seven assists this season.

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Speaker 2: So I just it's it's clear, and I know Jacquevaughond

592
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: said that it's not a factor, and he also said

593
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: this weekend he hasn't had any setbacks with his back

594
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: set His back hasn't become more injured, but he obviously

595
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: has issues back there. Uh so he will be reevaluated

596
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Speaker 2: in two weeks. Yeah, it's the back and he's got

597
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: a nerve impingement in there, and so who knows when

598
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 2: he's coming back. Really, this is this is a real

599
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: thing that's happening there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's unfortunate because he was looking okay

601
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Speaker 3: when he was playing early in the season. But nobody's

602
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 3: left on the Ben Simmons Island, I'll tell you that.

603
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: And it's uh it's vacant. I mean out here, I'm

604
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: just hanging around, but uh, it's a ghost town.

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00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: It's It's like, I guess people come, you know, during

607
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: the seasons or maybe in the summer, but yeah, they

608
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 3: come in the summer when he has his shirt off

609
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: and he's hitting jumpers. In the empty gym, unfortunately. But

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Speaker 3: now it's a ghost town. There's nobody here. It's no business.

611
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Speaker 3: You know, things are closing up shop, and you know,

612
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: I'm making fun of it a little bit, but sucks.

613
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: It sucks. And I think they were were they lying

614
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 3: to us about like this wasn't related to his back

615
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: injury before. I mean they were saying it wasn't. But

616
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Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter in the end. You can't play

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Speaker 3: because he's in pain.

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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, you received an epidural injection. Yeah, that's

619
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Speaker 2: not That has nothing to do with his off court

620
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: issues of not being able to play and not wanting

621
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Speaker 2: to shoot. That has nothing to do with it. So

622
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Speaker 2: he's going to be out for a full month and

623
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Speaker 2: a half at the very least since he last played,

624
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Speaker 2: so it could be even longer I imagine. Yeah.

625
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Speaker 3: I would like to give a weekend loser to Zach

626
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: Levine for a couple of reasons here. One, we learned

627
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: that he's going to be sidelined for at least a

628
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: week here with right foot soreness. I guess he exited

629
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: that blowout loss against the Celtics on Tuesday, So they're

630
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: now saying something wrong with the foot, We're going to

631
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Speaker 3: keep him out. So what of course happens when he

632
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: misses a couple of games? The Bulls are back, baby,

633
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 3: go out. They pick up two quality wins at home

634
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: over the Box and then the Pelicans again without zach Levine.

635
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 3: Kobe White was pretty special in both games, score twenty

636
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: three in the overtime win against the Bucks, had some

637
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: big shots, and then thirty one to nine and six

638
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: against the Pelicans on Saturday. But then to double down

639
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: on zach Lavine. Here Woh reported over the weekend that

640
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: the Bulls have found the trade market for zach Lavine

641
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 3: to be tepid. It's like a cold tea here quote

642
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: from Woes, there is not a market for Levine right

643
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: now in the NBA. And then Wosh had more to say, like,

644
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: teams are questioning how much does this guy impact winning?

645
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: And at the contract he makes, what forty five forty

646
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 3: six mil. Well, he's not gonna be your best player.

647
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: You maybe don't even want to be your second best player.

648
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: So if he's your third best player, like you want

649
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: to pay him that kind of money and if he's

650
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: not having that much of an impact on winning, And

651
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: this is where this situation arises of like how easy

652
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: is he going to be to trade? So I'm interested

653
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts TK on me given Zach Lavine

654
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: a loser of the week, and just how they've looked

655
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: without them and where the team goes from here.

656
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 4: Well, the Bulls have had thirty two assists in back

657
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: to back games, their first winning streak of the season.

658
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: I don't remember what Matt called two games in a row,

659
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 4: but the Bulls won two games in a row, so

660
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 4: that's a streak right now. My dad's take was that

661
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 4: they're playing people who want to play, and that's what

662
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 4: it looks like. Patrick Williams thrown down dunks at the

663
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 4: end of these games. Kobe White looking okay a tennis

664
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 4: this game from Demart Rosen as well. It wouldn't be

665
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 4: totally surprising to me if we've seen Levine plays last

666
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 4: game as a Bull. December fifteenth is coming soon, so

667
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 4: it's like a week after they said Levine will be reevaluated.

668
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 4: I can see that being the case, and I can

669
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 4: also see the trade market being tipid because nobody's available

670
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 4: to be traded until December fifteenth. I also feel like

671
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 4: the Bulls aren't a very leaky organization. So this is

672
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 4: more coming from other teams who are trying to drive

673
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 4: down the price.

674
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think? Think that makes sense?

675
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I like the word tepid. Also, I think the

676
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: old term for two wins straight it was patch, a.

677
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 4: Patch winning patch.

678
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: What a weird word that.

679
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 4: I remember. He was like going through what streaks should be,

680
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 4: Like how many you have to win to be considered

681
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 4: a streak? Because I don't think he thought too definitely,

682
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 4: not too. No, I don't even think he thought three

683
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: was worthy of being a streak.

684
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll have to hear. I think you can start

685
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: to debate that. But two, for sure is not a streak.

686
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: It's a patch winning patch here winning catch. No that

687
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: that is not caught on. No one says that unfortunately.

688
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, we talk about winning streaks all the time

689
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: and two just doesn't seem like it seems like a

690
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: little short, a little short of a streak. That's at three.

691
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: It's interesting exactly because he doesn't look like the player

692
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: that signed a long term contract with the Bulls. He

693
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: hasn't looked like he wants to be there. That's totally clear.

694
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: And when you make forty forty three, forty five, forty

695
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: eight over the next four years. That means the other

696
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: teams have to want to give up something because the

697
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: numbers have to match somewhat. So you've got to at

698
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: least trade thirty million plus draft picks. So the Bulls

699
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: have to be willing to take on somebody. And so

700
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: I suppose this is this is all just a little

701
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: bargaining from other teams. They're telling WOJ, telling others, we

702
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: want less, we want to give up less, we want.

703
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: To pay less for Zachlavine.

704
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: I think what you said is interesting, though. Have we

705
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: seen him play his last game for the Chicago Bulls,

706
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: Because one hand, they look a lot better and yeah,

707
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: maybe playing with a little more joy and the ball's

708
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: moving and maybe you run with that. But then the

709
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: flip side is, if the market is tepid and no

710
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: one's all that interested, do you want to try and

711
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: build up his trade value a little bit more or

712
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: could it make it worse with him playing?

713
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

714
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 3: So I find that part fascinating, Like do you want

715
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: to get him back out there and have a you know,

716
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: let him let zach Lavine pop off for a good

717
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: thirty five to forty point game here in the coming weeks,

718
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: and then maybe that helps, you know, get another pick

719
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: or another young player or whatever, or do you just

720
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 3: the assay, you know what, people know what they're getting

721
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: with Zach Lavine. They know he's a score first and

722
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: he is an elite scorer when healthy and all that

723
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 3: make us your offer, and hopefully we get a couple

724
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: of calls from some of these teams and we can

725
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: pit them against each other a little bit. I don't

726
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: think whatever the return is going to be remarkable, just

727
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 3: the way he's played, and yeah, how much contract or

728
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: how much money he makes, but December fifteenth is close.

729
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: You're right, that's eleven days away.

730
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: Eleven days away. You look at what John Collins returned

731
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 4: to the Hawks. He's on a big contract, just like

732
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: Levine was. It was a long one. Obviously Levine is

733
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 4: a better player, but no first round picks came back

734
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 4: to Atlanta in that deal. So I think the Bulls

735
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 4: should probably be looking at one one really maybe a player,

736
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 4: and then the salary relief will be a huge deal.

737
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: But I love the idea that the Bulls need to

738
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 4: start playing Zach Levine for him to prove that he's

739
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 4: a winner. It doesn't even make any sense. If he

740
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 4: comes back and prove that he's a winner, they're not

741
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: going to trade him, ye, because then the balls will

742
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 4: be good again. So this to me was like one

743
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 4: hundred percent was carrying water for a other team. And

744
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: that's kind of how I read it. Because nobody gets

745
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 4: scoops from the balls, you can tell. But because everybody

746
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 4: loves to trash the Bulls because they don't have to

747
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 4: deal with the repercussions of the front office coming back

748
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: and said, hey, why are you trashing our team. I

749
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 4: didn't hear anybody talking about Zach Lavie and putting up

750
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 4: twenty seven a game on fifty forty ninety the last

751
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: half of the season last year. He didn't get hurt

752
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 4: over the summer. He's just ready to go. Yeah, so's

753
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 4: I really regret, you know, November twenty one, I didn't

754
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 4: tell you guys this. November twenty twenty one, I was

755
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 4: holding a monkey paw and I just said, man, I

756
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 4: really wish people would talk about the Bulls more often.

757
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 4: Two years later, now we're talking about the Bulls all

758
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: the time. We are for all the double sword, you know,

759
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 4: it is, it really is.

760
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: But least. Hey, you know, no publicity is bad publicity. Wait,

761
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: that's all right, that doesn't make sense.

762
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 4: That's exactly right, Skeets. The Bulls had no publisher. Well right,

763
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 4: I heard you in the show last week. I heard

764
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 4: you on the show last week taking every opportunity you

765
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 4: could to trash the Bulls.

766
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: That's bullshit. That's bullshit.

767
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 4: And you know it because I gave them reluctantly. Yes,

768
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 4: yes you did. And the very last show of the thing,

769
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: after you had drafted the other team, I checked the doc.

770
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 4: I know the Bulls has got to be somebody's choice

771
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 4: with the comeback win here against the Bucks, that's that's right.

772
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I couldn't remember it. I was like, I

773
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 3: didn't do it for winners and losers the weekend. No,

774
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 3: it was when we were drafting.

775
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: What kind of paw? Are we talking?

776
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 4: A monkey paw?

777
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: Like a like from a monkey act like Simpson. Yeah,

778
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 2: so it's a little free old paw.

779
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 4: The fur is falling off because it's been detached from

780
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 4: that arm of the money. Yeah yeah, okay, forget.

781
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: Patches and the streaks. When does Tree Kirby drop the

782
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: Bulls are back? How many wins in a row or

783
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: what does the record have to be until you are

784
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: back to the Bulls are back? Is it like it

785
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: has to be above five hundred?

786
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 4: Got to be five hundred, Yeah, gotta be five hundred again?

787
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

788
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 3: What are they now? Seven or fourteen?

789
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: It's a long road?

790
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: Get your monkey pots, all right, let's go back to you.

791
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: Who else you got on your list for losers of

792
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 3: the weekend?

793
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Rockets get a loser of the weekend. Unfortunately

794
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 4: they are officially losers again. Started the season zero and three.

795
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 4: They won six straight, but they now just lost three

796
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 4: straight games on their road trip against Dallas, Denver and

797
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 4: the Lakers. All good teams, understandable losses, but that's six

798
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 4: to eighth. Six losses in their last eight games. They

799
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 4: are now back under five hundred, and oddly enough, they're

800
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: the only team in the league that hasn't won a

801
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 4: game on the road. The Pistons have won on the roads,

802
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 4: they beat the Bulls, the Spurs have won on the road,

803
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 4: The Bulls have won on the road, they beat the Pacers.

804
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 4: So that gets the Rockets a loser of the weekend.

805
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 4: What do they own? Eight? I think right now on

806
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: the road? Not good? But they also get a weird

807
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 4: of the weekend for Emi Udoka trash talking Lebron James

808
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 4: and getting ejected during the game. I kind of felt

809
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: it was a forty chess from Lebron realizing the Udoka

810
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 4: already had a technical earlier in the game, so he

811
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 4: keeps stirring things up with him, keeps going back and

812
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 4: forth with him about how Udoka was talking to Lebron.

813
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: I would side with Lebron on this one. But if

814
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 4: I'm a Rockets fan, I love having a coach that

815
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: is that fiery compared to how things have gone to

816
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 4: Pass Cups seasons. Nonetheless, Udoka kicked out of the game.

817
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 4: You don't see a coach trash talking a player very often.

818
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it's different that these two used

819
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 4: to play JR. That is an interesting wrinkle. Lebron afterwards

820
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 4: said they were talking about Thanksgiving. Great line, just catching up.

821
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 4: We haven't really caught up about Thanksgiving if you guys

822
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 4: ever want to have it, So we were talking about

823
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 4: your trip. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, that was weird.

824
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: Man.

825
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 4: Some great lip reading out there from John Boys got

826
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 4: a good one. You saw people breaking it down all

827
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 4: throughout the weekend. But that's just very weird.

828
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, any thoughts on Yudoka getting toss there and the

829
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 3: altercation between him and Lebron.

830
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I buy the lip reading

831
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: exactly word for word, Like what the words were that

832
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: came in? Really, I don't know.

833
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 3: I thought it was.

834
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 2: I believed it with what was going on, stop acting

835
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: like bitches man.

836
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: Basically, Yeah, he kept around that word which was pissing Lebron. Yes, yes,

837
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 3: use that word so loosely, and the idea they're complaining

838
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: and then.

839
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: It turned into that yes, yeah, I just I just

840
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: would love to hear it.

841
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: And then because Lebron steps to him to argue about it,

842
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: and then yeah, then your Doka is like, what are.

843
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 4: You gonna do about it?

844
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: I mean you Donka did play like a decade in

845
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: this league when Lebron was playing, which is crazy to

846
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 3: think about.

847
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 4: That's how Lebron's weird.

848
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Udoka, it has been retired since like twenty eleven,

849
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: but almost played a decade when Lebron was in the league.

850
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: They were rookies the same year. That's amazing.

851
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: Wow. Oh three oh four. No, Lebron was very good

852
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: with Rudoka guarding him. I think that that maybe, uh.

853
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh my god. Great work by the people

854
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 3: out there, though, getting I love all the angles these

855
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 3: people fine for all the lip reading and stuff like that.

856
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: It's great. You gotta see the John Boy video. It's

857
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: so good because he finds the guy who's videotape and

858
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 4: he's like holding the phone down on his leg very covertly,

859
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 4: just kinda just eyeballing it. We need that information because

860
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 4: we finally got the second half of it. Yeah, you

861
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 4: can see Udoka clearly the broadcast, so you gotta get

862
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 4: your lip rate on. Yeah, but then what could have

863
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 4: Lebron been saying? All we can take is the reactions

864
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 4: from the people in the crowd until we got the

865
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: reverse angle. Thanks to all of the cinematographers out there.

866
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: Well done, Well done. Final loser of the weekend. It's

867
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: not really NBA related.

868
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 4: But it goes to me.

869
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 3: It goes to my memory, specifically. On last week's Drop podcast,

870
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: I shared three injury stories from the good old Stratford,

871
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 3: Ontario dates. Two of them I messed up the details

872
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: and I wanted to clear the air my memory. I mean,

873
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: it's always been poor, but it's getting worse as I

874
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: get older here. I said Mike Gibb lost his finger

875
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: in a car door of a vehicle. Okay, I had

876
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: multiple people reach out to me and say it wasn't in.

877
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 4: A car door.

878
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 3: It was down at the hockey rink. Apparently GiB got

879
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 3: it pinched in the door going to the showers, and

880
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: I got it. Eye witnesses say they were there when

881
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: Mike Gibb ran out in his towel holding his finger

882
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: that he just had gotten shopped off into the lobby

883
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 3: of the hockey rank the Almond Arena there in Stratford.

884
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 3: So okay, I'm bad on that one. I also discussed

885
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: Holly and the Lathe incident, which I've talked about multiple

886
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: times here on this show over the last twenty years.

887
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 3: Hally got her hair caught in the Lathe and shop

888
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 3: class her last name. It's not Holly Anderson. That is

889
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 3: a very prominent college football writer and podcaster, Holly Edwards. Okay,

890
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: another ten people getting angry with me from Stratford. It's

891
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 3: not Holly Anderson, it's Holly Edwards.

892
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 4: The only story I got right was.

893
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 3: Kieran Griffin breaking his hand at Saint Mike's in a

894
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: big playoff game before the game when he punched a

895
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 3: padded wall and he broke his hand like a dufus

896
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: So I went, I went one for three. I mean

897
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 3: that's not great on you know, specific details. So apologies

898
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: to GiB To Edwards, not to cure on as much,

899
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: but just wanted to clearly I'm glad, but but you know,

900
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: because you were wondering. You even asked, like wow, in

901
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 3: a car door he got part of his finger taken off,

902
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: Like how hard did they have to slam it? Yeah?

903
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 3: But I guess it was at the rink, heavy doors,

904
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: you know.

905
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, did the kids like playing?

906
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: That's any other losers on the NBA weekend or your

907
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: weekend in general?

908
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 4: Did you stop at BUCkies there and back?

909
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 3: Did you buy? I was wondering if you were going

910
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: to buy the inflatable BUCkies Christmas thing that you put

911
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 3: on your lawn. I've seen it all around town.

912
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: Now.

913
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: Oh, he didn't even know the loser of the weekend,

914
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 4: double loser of the weekend, because we got there on

915
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,479
Speaker 4: our return. It was December first, and I walked into

916
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 4: BUCkies and there was a Santa Bucky there, somebody walking

917
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 4: around the mascot dressed up with Santa and I left

918
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 4: my phone out in the.

919
00:41:59,400 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: Loser.

920
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 4: That was disappointing. And now that I know they have

921
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 4: an inflatable as well.

922
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've seen it like four times now, so

923
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 3: people are obviously you know, it's nothing special, but it's

924
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: got the BUCkies logo on it. You love it in

925
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 3: a second, Yeah, I know.

926
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 4: Yeah I did buye. I can't. I can't reveal my

927
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 4: my gifts. I can't reveal my gifts.

928
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: Well, there's the NBA losers of the weekend, myself included.

929
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: We've gotta take one more break when we come back.

930
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: A very fun tweeted the night, and then we will

931
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 3: look ahead to the in season tournament quarterfinal game anywhere.

932
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: We were talking a little bit there about Christmas decorations, JD.

933
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: You have the A Christmas Story leg lamp. I saw

934
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 3: there in your front window.

935
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's our one decoration.

936
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 2: That's that's it.

937
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 5: Well, you have a tree, we have a tree, but

938
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 5: nothing outside. You can see the leg lamp from from

939
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 5: the streets.

940
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially at night.

941
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it looks pretty cool.

942
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: Nice, But I've never seen that movie. Yeah I know

943
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: I've said that.

944
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah you have, and it's crazy to me. For

945
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 5: a guy who watches regular cable that you haven't come

946
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 5: across or it's really weird. I actually think you would

947
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 5: love it. Yeah yeah, Ralfie, Ralfie, he's great.

948
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 4: It'll probably be on this Christmas, so I have a chance.

949
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 3: Okay, you should seek it out. I will, I will

950
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: watch it. Can I do it on playback? You guys

951
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 3: want to watch it Christmas studient?

952
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 5: It's probably it's I think, like, didn't TBS have it

953
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 5: like on a loop progress they did?

954
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 4: Used to play it like twenty four hours a day.

955
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, can't wait to fire that up this holiday season. Okay,

956
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: let's get to tweet.

957
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 2: Of the night, Tweet out the night. Woww Yeah, two.

958
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 3: Tweets here to go hand in hand. The first tweet

959
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: was from at Fast Break break Fast break Breakfast on Twitter.

960
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 3: Was unaware zubats had such a robust collection of nicknames.

961
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: Zuel Cinder is gold and you see they're the basketball

962
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: reference page with some of his you know, pretty good

963
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 3: uh nicknames there. Zupac is a fun one as well.

964
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: Well.

965
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: Larry Dance Junior retweeted it and said, I take credit

966
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: for all of these, but they forgot a bunch as well.

967
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: Zucchi Maine, Zudacris, Little Zuzi Vert, Zoobie Doo, and my

968
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: personal favorite Judge Zudih and then tags it heats the

969
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: Zubots there. Good work, Larry. I mean some pretty good

970
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: ones there. I really do like Judge Zudi that's a

971
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 3: fun one. Zudocris stuck out to me very good. I

972
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: mean a lot of them are good. You have a

973
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: favorite from the bunch, either the ones on Basketball Reference

974
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: or the one Larry says should be added.

975
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: I'm a huge Larry guy. Larry is great on Twitter period.

976
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: I think this is this is great just to get

977
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 2: him in the in the discussions, because I think he's

978
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: always been great.

979
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 3: Zuel Cinder is funny, good stuff there from Fast Break

980
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 3: Breakfast great pod. And Larry nance Jr. Does he have

981
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: his own podcast? It feels like you should very funny.

982
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh guy, you can't at least like guests on

983
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: a c. J.

984
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: McCollum podcast.

985
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think maybe, right, maybe?

986
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: How many players have podcasts?

987
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: I mean like retired or current?

988
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, retired or current. There's not a lot put it

989
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: at which retired ones have.

990
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 3: Well, we've talked about Pinson podcast has a podcast.

991
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 4: These days. Yeah, I mean Evan Turner and Gilbert Stephen Jackson,

992
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 4: Matt barr.

993
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: Tons.

994
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: We're getting up there. I mean, I bet let's see

995
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 3: over under Cole Swider. Does he have a podcast?

996
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

997
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 2: Well I think he might actually.

998
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: Want to put the line up fifteen and a half

999
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: over under which podcasts? Yeah?

1000
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: No, no, no, both both. Yeah, I'd be way over that.

1001
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 4: Sider does have a podcast, Duncan Robinson, JJ Reddick.

1002
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, yeah, there's a lot.

1003
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: Really who doesn't have a podcast?

1004
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: You said, Draymond jack has one, Jack as Charles Barkley

1005
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 4: as one.

1006
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: Yes he does. Yeah, the steam room room.

1007
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, Kenny, okay, just.

1008
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: Quickly tonight we are jumping on playback for Celtics Pacers

1009
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 3: seven thirty pm Eastern. Now this is a tn T

1010
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: game International League Pass viewers will be watching the game

1011
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: with us live on screen. There a little more difficult

1012
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: for our North American friends, but hey, second screen viewing

1013
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 3: experience for the ist seven point thirty Celtics Pacers in

1014
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 3: Indiana or Indianapolis predictions though, just quickly here, you've got

1015
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: the Celtics, he said, task winning tonight. What do you

1016
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 3: got in the second game? The Pelicans, Kings. Who's winning?

1017
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 3: Who's moving on to Vegas? Baby Vegas.

1018
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: You gotta go a Sacer. But I'm excited that a Pelicans,

1019
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: smaller market team shall be trying to get to Vegas.

1020
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 3: Beat the Kings twice?

1021
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: Ready, Kings twice? Maybe have their number. Yeah, the Pelicans

1022
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: are really really huge and that's a bit of a

1023
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: problem for the Sacramento Kings. So I can't wait to

1024
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: see that one as well.

1025
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: Who do you have tonight, Celtics and Kings. Yeah, that's

1026
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: my pick as well. Hope Haliburton plays. Yeah, that would suck.

1027
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we know porzingis that almost evens it

1028
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 3: out a little bit. But yeah, hopefully Haliburton goes for

1029
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 3: the Pacers. And then for the most part, I think

1030
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 3: the teams are pretty good to go in the in

1031
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: the second game there between the Pelicans and Kings, and

1032
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: then tomorrow night. There are two more games, but we'll

1033
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: talk about those on tomorrow show. We'll be recapping these

1034
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 3: two games tonight in great detail on tomorrow's pod. Get

1035
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 3: your questions in. I'm sure we'll hit the beach at

1036
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: some point. No dunks at the Athletic dot Com Tweet

1037
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: them in at No Dunks, Inc. And if you're a

1038
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 3: Survivor fan, there's only three No Buff episodes left. Quick

1039
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: thoughts on the last one. Did you catch it episode?

1040
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: Oh?

1041
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a montage?

1042
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 4: Too good? What's better than this?

1043
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: Guys being incredible?

1044
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1045
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 4: I got to hear some farts. There's like a fart segment. Yeah,

1046
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 4: love it. Burps, farts, burst flex one of my favorite things.

1047
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 3: We had it also, Uh, that's later on in the week,

1048
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 3: but we'll be here tomorrow morning at ten am Eastern.

1049
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 3: Hit that like button. Make sure you subscribe until then.

1050
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 3: Clipper bros.

1051
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 4: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

1052
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 4: Love you guys awesome.

1053
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember League Pass doesn't allow

1054
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: you to see in market games. What's up with that?

1055
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 4: That's got to change.

1056
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: What are we doing? What are we doing? We're negotiating

1057
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: next year, Adam Silver, Let's get this time. You agree

1058
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 2: everything on leak past. That'll happen. It's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Em Brace the day, people,