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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm heart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh is it the right stuff? The first time?

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Speaker 2: Then I met you? Yep, I'm not the singer. I've

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Speaker 2: got the lyrics.

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Speaker 1: So I have a funny story about nw kits on

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Speaker 1: the Block.

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Speaker 2: When I was.

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Speaker 1: Probably I want to say ten okay, Todd Erworth called,

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Speaker 1: who was my brother's best friend.

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Speaker 2: Was like, I don't know who Todd is got it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to.

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Speaker 1: But I was watching my VHS tape of nw kits

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Speaker 1: on the Block and got stuck with the Jordan when

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Speaker 1: he had the black hat thing, and I remember I

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Speaker 1: never I was like, hey Todd, yep, let me get

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Speaker 1: my brother. One second, I put the phone down and

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Speaker 1: then I see Jordan on the screen. Totally forgot to

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Speaker 1: connect my brother and Todd. And to this day I

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Speaker 1: still remember that. Isn't that sad?

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Speaker 2: Did Todd listen to you sing your heart out? I

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Speaker 2: don't know? Thank god it wasn't FaceTime back.

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Speaker 1: But I'm like the things we remember, like what i'd

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Speaker 1: give to remember half my some of my childhood.

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Speaker 2: I've forgotten a lot, well did, but I'd like to forget. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's different than forgetting it, remember, yeah, exactly. I always

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Speaker 2: thought I would marry Joey because we both had asthma

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Speaker 2: and we were both capricorns. How did you know I

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Speaker 2: get asthma because one of the concerts I went to

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Speaker 2: had an asthma attack and he had to go off stage.

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Speaker 2: And I was devastated, like my soulmate, weeping on my chair,

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Speaker 2: devastated that he might not make it. I don't know

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Speaker 2: you would add asthma still do really rods in the back.

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Speaker 2: Asthma seventh grade was a real trip. What do you

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Speaker 2: take for it? Albuterol as needed?

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Speaker 1: I've never seen you take albuterol.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I've been a lot better since I've

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Speaker 2: gotten older, or just I think healthier, probably, but I

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Speaker 2: still carry it with me. Do your kids at asthma?

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Speaker 2: Not that I know of. No, we were afraid Legie did.

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Speaker 2: But m oh, that's right. I do remember that I

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Speaker 2: was a respiratory kid. But I think we're on track.

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Speaker 1: So so I bring up new kids because we have

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Speaker 1: kind of a well, she's married to a new kid.

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Speaker 2: She did what we all dreamt to do. She sought out,

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Speaker 2: she actually achieved the goal.

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Speaker 1: We've got Jenny McCarthy. Wahlberg coming on, which I think

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Speaker 1: is kind of cool too, because she's I wonder if

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Speaker 1: she's tight with all what's his face? Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: Mark Wahlberg, marky Mark. Right, she would have to be

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Speaker 1: have to well you never.

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Speaker 2: Know what look like. That'd be fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but she's going to be on and then she's, uh,

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Speaker 1: do you watch the MASD singer.

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Speaker 2: I've watched an episode. It's tricky for me. What's tricky

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Speaker 2: in fact, the mascots are singing. That's hard for me.

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Speaker 1: I think I remember hearing the concept going this is

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Speaker 1: ridiculous because it just seemed crazy, and then I've watched

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Speaker 1: a few episodes and it's still in my mind so silly.

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Speaker 1: But also for some reason, I can't look away when

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Speaker 1: it's on.

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Speaker 2: Would you ever do it? I don't think they'd ever

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Speaker 2: asked me, but I would do it. Yeah, I need

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Speaker 2: to be on sete if that happens.

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Speaker 1: Well, you can't they put they make you these it's

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's obviously very secretive. But my thing is

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Speaker 1: is like, when they're doing the guessing, that's what I

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Speaker 1: want to ask her to. I'm like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just some.

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Speaker 2: People have such like obvious voices, right, that's what's crazy

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Speaker 2: to me. And there's so many people that have been

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Speaker 2: on that show. Yeah, and then they also don't they

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Speaker 2: do themes too? Huh yeah, okay, but she is also

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Speaker 2: a mass singer. Come on, no, I mean, who would

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Speaker 2: you dress up as a buy butterfly? Butterfly? I don't know, Actually, no,

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Speaker 2: what would you do? I think that would be a bird?

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Speaker 2: A bird, a song bird. That's pretty Yeah, it has

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Speaker 2: to have something a little more different though. I was like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be like a Paris rod coming

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Speaker 3: I've got.

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Speaker 2: A bird with a beret. Oh what would you do? WWJD.

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Speaker 2: It's a different I don't know, maybe like a baby

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Speaker 2: cream where I got to tell you, I didn't see

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Speaker 2: that one coming. Maybe. I don't know what I thought.

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Speaker 2: It felt like there was about forty five seconds between

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Speaker 2: the start of the book and the end of that word.

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Speaker 2: I guessed about seven things, and a baby wasn't one

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever seen like a giant

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Speaker 1: baby warning I want.

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Speaker 2: Well, now I want you to do it like a

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Speaker 2: baby sumo baby. Yeah, okay, feels like a really big office.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think we got a fun Oh

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Speaker 2: that's incredible. Well they've never asked me because I can't sing,

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Speaker 2: all right. Well, so let's take a break and then

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Speaker 2: i'll take my breat off. Jenny On, you can get serious.

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Speaker 2: Oh you you're everything I knew you'd be. It's just

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Speaker 2: one thing I know about you is you're just always

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Speaker 2: going to be hot. I mean, it's what we've been

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Speaker 2: counting on.

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Speaker 4: You guys are so sweet. Thank you so much. I'm

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Speaker 4: more flammable than anything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we see they all are. We see the

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Speaker 1: fire in the back too, so don't don't.

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Speaker 2: Get too close to it.

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Speaker 3: Also fake is that a TV? And my name?

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Speaker 2: Listen and my lashes and listens my lips all going on?

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Speaker 2: It's right there Has there ever been a baby as

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Speaker 2: a mess singer? Like I mean, like Jess as a

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Speaker 2: baby totally? And the baby was one of my favorite characters.

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Speaker 2: But if you asked me for a million dollars, who

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Speaker 2: was the baby?

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Speaker 4: I cannot remember. There's been so many celebrities I can't remember.

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Speaker 4: But it was the cutest costume I think we ever had,

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Speaker 4: was the baby?

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Speaker 1: Well, so we're just asking like, who would you be

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Speaker 1: if you were the mess singer? And I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: had a different thing. So I was on a butterfly

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Speaker 1: said a baby, and then she just started laughing. But

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Speaker 1: I just think a baby costume would be so cute.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. It was so cute.

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Speaker 4: But we've had some like amazing ones, like the monster

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Speaker 4: one we had was really cute. The snail was cute,

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Speaker 4: which was Kermit the frog inside of a snail costume.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, so we just got word that Larry the

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Speaker 2: cable guy was the baby. Does that see macurret?

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Speaker 3: That seems right, That's right.

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Speaker 2: That's way too much for that's like talk about cognitive dissonance.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't. That's really hard for me. That's two set

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Speaker 2: off very large words. So I'm not really oh about me.

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Speaker 2: That's my one smart word of the day, Jenny. Okay, wait,

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Speaker 2: so does the sometimes does the costume sway how you

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Speaker 2: feel about the singing? Because like a baby, like you

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Speaker 2: can't hate the baby?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what I think when I see a

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Speaker 3: little bit more pricey. I was like, Oh, this must

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Speaker 3: be an a lister, This must.

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Speaker 4: Be someone that's going to be here around because they

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Speaker 4: spend so much money in this costume.

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Speaker 3: And then I'm I'm like, not that everyone's not an

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Speaker 3: A lister, but you know what I mean, a singer.

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Speaker 4: Let me just put a really fabulous singer, I would

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Speaker 4: think in the most expensive costume. No, so they'll trick

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Speaker 4: you to thinking like, oh, this one's going to be

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Speaker 2: So I guess I figured that there's like some wardrobe warehouse,

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Speaker 2: like a costume warehouse, and they all get to go

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Speaker 2: Like is it Amazon?

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Speaker 4: They look, they get to It depends on when the

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Speaker 4: celebrities sign in sign up for the show, so sometimes

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Speaker 4: we get people that's like two days before. So the

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Speaker 4: costume designers are pulling together whatever they can, but for

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Speaker 4: the most part they do have and the celebrities come

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Speaker 4: in and consult. They're like, what do you want to be? Well,

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Speaker 4: I want to be a butterfly, and this is how

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Speaker 4: I think it should be. So you can have a

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Speaker 4: you're scoreising.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So for my Google search, it started in with South Korea. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: So because when I first saw the show in my mind,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, this is or when I heard the concept

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Speaker 1: because I have a one of my friends produced the show,

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Speaker 1: and so she's telling this to me and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: come on, val like this sounds insane, right, like this

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Speaker 1: I was just telling Kristen when I do catch it's

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Speaker 2: It's like the craziest idea. But what for you is

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Speaker 2: like when you heard about the show, and then what

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Speaker 4: Well, when I first heard about the show, I was like,

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Speaker 3: So my agent was like he passed.

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Speaker 4: On it a couple times, and I'm like, why are

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Speaker 4: think I can rock this show and it's so up

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Speaker 4: in college. I'm like, it's just gonna be like another

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Speaker 4: But I'm like, damn, if I was on a little

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Speaker 4: bit of gummies right now, I'd be like, this show

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Speaker 3: Whole other experience. But I'm sober. Don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 4: Although Ken makes me want to drink sometimes, but nonetheless,

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Speaker 4: I'm so happy though, because it was It turned out

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Speaker 4: to be a really successful show.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's because too, it checks all those.

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Speaker 4: Boxes, like you want your brain to kind of think

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Speaker 4: and try to guess who someone is. You know, I

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Speaker 4: love putting together the clue packages. It's kind of like

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Speaker 4: my wordal, you know. I just I love the those

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Speaker 1: Sure, how long have you been sober?

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Speaker 2: For? No?

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Speaker 3: I just went sober on the show.

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Speaker 2: She was like, of actually last night, I'm like, is

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Speaker 2: there tea in here? I like to keep them guessing too.

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Speaker 2: They always think latte, they never think vodka. It's tricky.

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Speaker 3: I do enjoy my vodka.

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Speaker 2: I will say, Okay, I have I have relationship questions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, please bring it.

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Speaker 2: You've done what we all set out to do, Jenny,

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Speaker 2: you married a new kid, and so that matters to

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Speaker 2: a lot of us. And I will say one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite things about you is a you've always been like.

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Speaker 2: So you're not much older than me, but I always

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Speaker 2: feel like you've just always been more confident, and so

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Speaker 2: I've kind of just looked it up to you in

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Speaker 2: that way. And so when I watch your relationship with

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Speaker 2: your sweet husband, I always love how it feels like

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Speaker 2: you're so and listen, I know social media is crazy,

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Speaker 1: guys got together?

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Speaker 3: I think forty one?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so was then the kids having a kid together

442
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Speaker 1: out of the question.

443
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Speaker 4: Or oh well not biologically, but you were done.

444
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Speaker 3: I was done, he was done. We five dogs.

445
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 2: Those are our babies now and everyone gets a lot.

446
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Speaker 2: I love that the kids get along too. Sets great.

447
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Speaker 1: And your son's working on the messinger, right, is that

448
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Speaker 1: what it is?

449
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Speaker 4: He's working the messing and it's so cute. He works

450
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Speaker 4: the audience loadens. He's like welcome everybody, and people are

451
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Speaker 4: excited to see him. I know.

452
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Speaker 3: It's the sweetest thing ever.

453
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Speaker 2: That's so sweet. How often are you doing that? Like,

454
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Speaker 2: how long do you record for? How long does that go?

455
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Speaker 4: It's about a month or so, maybe a month and

456
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Speaker 4: a half and for but we do two seasons, so

457
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Speaker 4: it's about maybe three months out of the year.

458
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Speaker 2: Is there anyone that had just I mean, obviously they

459
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Speaker 2: all kind of surprise you, but is there one that

460
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Speaker 2: you just were one memorable one that you were kind

461
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Speaker 2: of mind blown over.

462
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Speaker 3: Yeah. When my husband surprised me and I didn't know, Yeah, I.

463
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Speaker 4: Was totally totally freaked out because we talk all the time.

464
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Speaker 3: But he was calling me.

465
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Speaker 4: He's like, I'm on set and he's in another set

466
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Speaker 4: next door with the same background of the set of

467
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Speaker 4: Blue Bloods, meaning like you know, an off stage kind

468
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Speaker 4: of exit door.

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Speaker 3: They all look like the same, So I never thought

470
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Speaker 3: for one second he was in the other room.

471
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Speaker 4: So when they took off that rooster mask, I was like,

472
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Speaker 4: that's when I thought I was on acid or mushrooms.

473
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Speaker 4: I was like, what, uh, why the rooster you know,

474
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Speaker 4: that's the costume that they just had available.

475
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 2: Because I was going to make like a ceoc K joke.

476
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure what was going on. I was like,

477
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Speaker 2: what do we know about that?

478
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Speaker 3: Of those I don't think they care a girl. How

479
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Speaker 3: could you not? Donnie Wahlberg, is you know in a

480
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Speaker 3: rooster costume?

481
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Speaker 2: It's your husband, not mine. I mean, I'm not going

482
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Speaker 2: to make it an appropriate joke, but.

483
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Speaker 3: Let's just say rooster feet were very large.

484
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Speaker 2: But okay, can we can we ladies? Can we talk

485
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Speaker 2: about formless beautiful beauty?

486
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Speaker 1: Please?

487
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Speaker 3: Please please? I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: Okay, tell us everything.

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Speaker 3: I will. I'll tell you everything in a nutshell and

490
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Speaker 3: you'll appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: We're forty and we need we need some coverage here.

492
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Speaker 2: Well, we also need clean makeup because like our daughters

493
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: are moving into that season too, and that's the part

494
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: the matter most to me too, that there's like an alternative.

495
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Speaker 1: For her and can you cover my malasma?

496
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Speaker 4: She'll cover right my Mommy clients are always like, thank

497
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Speaker 4: you so much because my daughter always bowers my makeup

498
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 4: and I know that your makeup is so incredibly clean.

499
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Speaker 4: The reason why I started is because God forbid, we

500
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 4: don't need a celebrity another celebrity makeup brand. But when

501
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 4: I did my homework, because I am vigilant on ingredients,

502
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 4: even at the grocery store, I couldn't can.

503
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Speaker 3: I swear, I couldn't forget do what you want. I

504
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 3: couldn't create that.

505
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 4: That makeup was like it's still it wasn't regulated after

506
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Speaker 4: eighty years, Like.

507
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Speaker 3: I was like, what are you talking about?

508
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Speaker 4: And then I found out that there's formeldehyde in mascara,

509
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 4: there's hormone disruptors, there's forever chemicals which cause cancer in mascara,

510
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 4: in most mascara. And I remember the people saying good

511
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 4: luck trying to make a mescarra without the forever chemicals,

512
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 4: because I'm like you, you sit back and you watch me.

513
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Speaker 3: Did I bring it with me? But we made the

514
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Speaker 3: most incredible freaking mescarea. It's sold out. It's been sold out.

515
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Speaker 4: We won't be able to be in restock until probably

516
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 4: just because I had no idea. So many people care

517
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Speaker 4: also about ingredients, but performance too, because I would buy

518
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 4: these like organic makeups and I'd be like, row, you know,

519
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 4: it just didn't perform great. So we are so slow

520
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 4: to roll out products because they have to pass my stringent,

521
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Speaker 4: like vigilant ingredient thing.

522
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Speaker 3: We followed the EWG, the EWG.

523
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Speaker 4: Guidelines of non acceptable ingredients. If you don't know who

524
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Speaker 4: they are, the Environmental Working Group.

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Speaker 2: They only ban like fifteen things, and I'm sorry here,

526
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Speaker 2: we only ban like fifteen things, right, and like European

527
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Speaker 2: standard is like tens of thousands.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

529
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Speaker 4: We followed the EWG, which has nine hundred pages of

530
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Speaker 4: unacceptable ingredients. So we don't use telc in our eyeshadows

531
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Speaker 4: because there's a lot of asbestos in eyeshadows. That's why

532
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Speaker 4: I tell mommies, like, if your kids gonna play with stuff,

533
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Speaker 4: let them use the non asbestos makeup. Our lip glasses

534
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 4: are all ingredients you pronounce like alo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want this one here on the site right there.

536
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: It's like it's like a tan vibe adding to part.

537
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Speaker 4: Did we I think we got we're sending you guys.

538
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 4: That's what I heard, the whole kitten kaboodle. So you

539
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 4: guys want to get everything amazing. Yeah, I finally get

540
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 4: your Maskcara, but it sold out. It's still sold out, right, Yeah.

541
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Speaker 3: It's sold out.

542
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 4: But we just yeah, we just are about to launch,

543
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Speaker 4: if not already. We did launch the eyelashes and why

544
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 4: did I make lashes because they're amazing.

545
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Speaker 1: Lashes are everything, they wake you up, they're just like you.

546
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 4: But the bands were always so thick or the lashes

547
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Speaker 4: look so ridiculous. I'm like, oh, it's dressed up for

548
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 4: Halloween every day wearing lashes like this, Like we all

549
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 4: know that girl that goes to yoga and those lashes

550
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 4: that are way too long. So I'm like, can I

551
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Speaker 4: make an every day and a pump up lash? So

552
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Speaker 4: the ones I'm morning today are flutter, which I love

553
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Speaker 4: because they're sohat good for everyday use. And then we

554
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 4: came out with a brush collection, which mine are kind

555
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 4: of dirty right now. But if you guys notice, and

556
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Speaker 4: I'm sure you guys have bought brushes, they're like forty

557
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Speaker 4: bucks a pop.

558
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Speaker 1: I'd be really gross right now. I can't tell you

559
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: the last time I washed my brushes. I need new brush.

560
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: Well, they're also saying now not to wash your brushes

561
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Speaker 2: because then there's even more like I think it's just

562
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Speaker 2: like a new brush idea. So maybe this is what

563
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Speaker 2: we need.

564
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: This is what you need, and guess what you guys

565
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 4: are getting them, so you're both gonna be getting one.

566
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Speaker 4: But we have twelve brushes and they're super nice. They're

567
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Speaker 4: like fancy, fancy nice.

568
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: But does it come as a set, because that matter.

569
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Speaker 3: Comes with the whole set, the whole travel kit.

570
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Speaker 2: Okay, I wish you could marry me instead. I get

571
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: so frustrated because I'm not a makeup girl, and then

572
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: I get on to try to find a brush and

573
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Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know what I need and trying

574
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Speaker 2: to writ mean online is hard. I want like, just

575
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Speaker 2: give me what I need.

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00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 4: That's exactly right. This is exactly what you need. And

577
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 4: if you're still like is this the contour brush or

578
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 4: is this the blush brush? Like if you don't know,

579
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 4: if you follow us on TikTok, we have the most

580
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 4: amazing quick tutorials of like we blow up the shadows

581
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,239
Speaker 4: of which ones the makeup artist is using, and then

582
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Speaker 4: it goes to the next color and it's like a

583
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Speaker 4: fifth because you don't who wants to watch it half

584
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Speaker 4: in our no one? So we put them down in

585
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Speaker 4: twenty seconds. So we show you which one to use

586
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 4: and which brush to use, so it's like easy PC.

587
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: When did the because I don't when do the brushes

588
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: hit the website? The eleventh Okay, so when people are

589
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: listening to this, then people.

590
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 4: Are listening to this, it will be up and you'll

591
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: guys be able to get them, but you're just gonna

592
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 4: get the whole kit and kaboodle.

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Speaker 2: And I problemly didn't know there was that bad of

594
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: stuff and it's kind of disturbing me now. I didn't

595
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: realize it was that bad of stuff in makeup. It's

596
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 2: like bad, bad, and it's what we put on our skin,

597
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: which makes me so sad, like it's our biggest organ

598
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: it makes me I have there's actually a EWG app

599
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: that's what I used to type in products for foods

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00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: and like anything for the baby.

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Speaker 4: We just submitted our we submitted our EWR all of

602
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 4: our products EWG and we're now in Phase two because

603
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 4: they go and then they do third party testing and everything.

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00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: So we made it through Test one.

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Speaker 4: Of course we were going to pass because we followed

606
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Speaker 4: their strict guidelines. And I'm just excited because I wanted

607
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: to be that brand where people go, I know I

608
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 4: can trust her. I know I can trust her because

609
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 4: now everyone cares about shareholders stakeholders, and that's their line.

610
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: Like when all these people are talking about clean.

611
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 4: Beauty and then I dive into their ingredients. I'm like,

612
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: whose standard are you going by for clean?

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Speaker 2: Because it's not how This actually makes me have some

614
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: more faith in that because EWG app, so do you

615
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: remember the think dirty app? And I might get thrown

616
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: under the bus for this, I don't really care. But

617
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 2: then I started to understand that people were buying into that,

618
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 2: and so then it wasn't always an honest take on

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00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: what the ingredients were because money was feeding it. So

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Speaker 2: I actually have more faith in the EWG app now

621
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Speaker 2: knowing that they're shaking you down, our sweet soul sister.

622
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean, if anybody's gonna shake down Jennymine Crthy.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what why I followed their guidelines is

624
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 4: because they don't. They're the only agency that's not captured.

625
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: Because let's be honest, the FDA is captured. A lot

626
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 4: of these people have lobbyists that are just captured. EWG

627
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 4: does not have that. They're the only non captured agency

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00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 4: that are working on behalf of humanity, and that resonated

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Speaker 4: with me and I. You know, even though they drive

630
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: my chemists, my chemist is ready to jump out of

631
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Speaker 4: the window. I picture him like the last King and

632
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 4: Game of Thrones when he jumps out the window.

633
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: That's my visual every time I call him. I'm like,

634
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: but you can do it, buddy, you can figure this out.

635
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: Imagine you're we're going to raise a beauty bar and

636
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: they're all gonna be walking behind you, and we're gonna

637
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: be proud, because once we do it, then others will follow.

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Speaker 1: You know, I really need this Messcare to come back

639
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: and stop, because I low the messcara I'm using right now,

640
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: like so bad. It keeps going underneath my eye to

641
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: you know when you put it on and then about

642
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: like two hours later because I sweat and it's just

643
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: like you see the black underneath there too. You can

644
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: almost guess it's organic mescaa when you see somebody with them.

645
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: And you're like, hey girl going for that clean makeup?

646
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah me too, it's so clean.

647
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 4: Or you see those people using the mascara on the

648
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: influencers and the lashes all of a sudden go up

649
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 4: to here and you're like, well, it really elongates.

650
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: It long gates because there's microplastics in it.

651
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: They put microplastics in your mescarrat and make those long things.

652
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't want to microplastics in my eyes,

653
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 4: I'm already like leached out fake fingernails. Like it's about

654
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 4: like what you absorb in your like your lipstick. You're

655
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 4: practically eating it. Those things should be very mindful, especially

656
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Speaker 4: if your daughters are playing with it.

657
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Speaker 2: How did you start the foremost foremost beauty is it?

658
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: Did it start with other things in your life and

659
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: then it brought you to the makeup or was it

660
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: just obviously you know, we love makeup as girls. But

661
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: I'm curious if it started with a different with like

662
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: food or something before that.

663
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: With the clan, it started with food.

664
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 4: When my son was sick and diagnosed with a bunch

665
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 4: of stuff, I dove in to heat his healing, and

666
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: then once I got him under control, I decided to

667
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 4: look at myself and was like, oh, I'm a disaster.

668
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: Like I found out I had MTHFR gene mutation.

669
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so this is even more important why you

670
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 4: need this kind of makeup? Because we eat is a

671
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 4: perfect example, and I only have a minute left. The

672
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 4: if you eat let's say fish tuna, most people who

673
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 4: don't have this gene mutation, they hold If you don't

674
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 4: have the mutation, you detox ninety percent of that mercury.

675
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: If you have the mutations, ninety percent of that mercury.

676
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: So we are methilation pathways.

677
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 4: Our detoxing has to be taking very seriously.

678
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: Infrared z on us.

679
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 4: Make sure you sweat, make sure you work out, lymphatic

680
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 4: system is clear, because we have to help aid our body.

681
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: Into cleansing those things. So I'm very mindful of what

682
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: goes in me.

683
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: Now well, and also thank you for what you do

684
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: with taka and stuff too. Actually went to an event

685
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: a couple years ago back in Los Angeles, so just

686
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: thank you for all the advocacy work that you do

687
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: on that side as well. So sure, but you're our

688
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: dream Jess, Joanny for coming on.

689
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: Appreciate you and I cannot wait to try formless beauty

690
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: and of course watch I'm the mass singer.

691
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: I know. I'm so grateful you guys, and I can't wait.

692
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 3: You'll have to let me know how much you'll love it.

693
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: Please get it perfect. We already love it. We love you.

694
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: I love you guys. Thank you so much.

695
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: By home bye, so sweet, stunning. She never ages, you know,

696
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: I kind of if you would have told high school,

697
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: middle school Jana I just think it's meet the people

698
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: that we've been able to interview on the show, from

699
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: McConaughey to Jada to Jenny to there's very iconic people

700
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: that have come on that I have grown up with.

701
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: Remember Tiffany Theston. I was like, what is happening?

702
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: Yes, you know? And then I mean even I don't know.

703
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: It's just there's there's times where I go, Okay, this

704
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 1: is cool. It's never lost on me. Yeah, Like I

705
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: was like, who gets.

706
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: A chance to like chat with people like this? Well,

707
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: and you kind of you you did something really beautiful,

708
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: beautiful for me the other day when we when uh,

709
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: I got asked to take Jolie to go to Dallas

710
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: for the opening of the American Girl Store Doll Store,

711
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, oh, like I just I'm gonna

712
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: have to figure this out and then move this and

713
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: but then we have to go to Chicago.

714
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: The next day.

715
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: And and you kind of you went, how cool is

716
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: that that you get the opportunity to just go to

717
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: Dallas take your daughter?

718
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: And I was like, you are so right.

719
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm too consumed by everything else that have to do

720
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: to Okay, who's gonna take care of room? And then this,

721
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: that and the other, and it's just and the opportunities

722
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: are so cool that we get to do like crazy

723
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: cool and it just for myself joy and gratefulness of

724
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: that whole entire day. I'm like, I kept saying, how

725
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: cool is this that we get to do this together?

726
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: How grateful am I that we got the opportunity to

727
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: go do this together? How blessed are we that we're able?

728
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: You know that I have someone flexible that can help

729
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: with Roman right now.

730
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: You know I've had to do it too, because I,

731
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: you know, me like love to be home with the babies. Yes,

732
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: And I think part of our last couple of years

733
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: of marriage is because I'm so this is what I do,

734
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: and like I'm very boundary and boundary with no soft edges.

735
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: So now I'm trying to have boundaries with like softer edges.

736
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: But traveling with Preston matters so much to him because

737
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: it's lonely, Like two hundred nights a year, I'm home alone,

738
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: but I'm home alone with our babies. Like the people

739
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: we've made. He's not alone, but he is alone, and

740
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: so from him, to have a piece of one of

741
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: us out with him matters so I'm trying to reframe

742
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: it from myself on the marrior front, where I'm like, Okay,

743
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: I really I can't wait to take that trip with you.

744
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: I mean, we got paid to go to Aruba. That's

745
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: really cool. Like he did a show there. I'm sharing

746
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: him in some sense, but I'm also in Aruba with

747
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: my husband and that's really cool too.

748
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yes, and also it's important to have

749
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: those times together as much as even though I had

750
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: so much anxiety going to Mexico, No, it's funny, Julie.

751
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: Julie texted me. She goes, why on earth did you

752
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: book an earlier flight to come home to do a

753
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: bedtime routine that you do five million, ka trillion times?

754
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: And I'm like, because, Julie, you know me. She's like,

755
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: I know you're anxiously attached and you had to get

756
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: back to the baby. I was like, yeah, yeah, And.

757
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: Then when I got home, I'm like, why didn't I say,

758
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 2: I know, but baby steps were doing it. We went,

759
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: we both did a trip in two weeks, and I'm

760
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: proud of us.

761
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 1: Right, But it was one of those moments where I go, Okay,

762
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: Julie had a point there, because I remember the first

763
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: day Alan and I got to Mexico again three days

764
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: or three nights, and he was like, this is going

765
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: to be over before we know it. Let's just sink

766
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: it just let's just sink every moment in and let's

767
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: take it all in. And then the last day, I'm like,

768
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: it's just time goes by so fast. It really is

769
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: a thief that but I was like, I wish I

770
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: would have enjoyed it even more. Instead, I was like, Okay,

771
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: I got two more sleeps here and then two more

772
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: days I get to go home instead of going.

773
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: You texted me when I was on that trip last

774
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: and that I said, your timing, Like I was right.

775
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: I was like, can I get out of here today?

776
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 3: Like?

777
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: Get me out of here?

778
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: Well, and that's why I got the earlier flight because

779
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: we were on the last flight out, Like I don't

780
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: want make the last flight out because I miss this

781
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: flights the Oh my gosh. Then I start to get anxiety,

782
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: and so in my mind, I'm like, why didn't I

783
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: just allow myself to just chill and fun. I did.

784
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: I really did have a great time. It's just you know, baby,

785
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: and good too, yeah is it?

786
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

787
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 2: Because I mean like almost four months. Okay. I don't

788
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 2: know who made the timeline for you when the partum

789
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 2: is over, but you're like, I had my first period,

790
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: so that's over, and I'm like, oh, it's every eight days, okay,

791
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 2: y don ky. The postpartum post part of anxiety. Of

792
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 2: that piece of it though, is like primal, so it's

793
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: like you wanting to get back to him is actually

794
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: like the way God made you. It's it's a good thing,

795
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: you know. It's on with that subject is when we

796
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: went to go watch whill watching, they were saying, I know,

797
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: but you got to just like follow me on this one.

798
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 2: But I just love the term. I mean, I did

799
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: know that was a piece of this that's exciting. So

800
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: for me, water is kind of my relax It's almost

801
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: like my anxiety pill. So I love to be out

802
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: in the water. So it's like, Alan, let's go get

803
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: a boat. There's well watching. So we ordered this little

804
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: got this little guy to take us out there and

805
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: we were watching the whales and he was telling us

806
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: about an orca, which did you know, so in did

807
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: you know that a killer like orca whale is actually

808
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: a dolphin?

809
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

810
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: Maybe I heard this yeah, we did some dolphin experience,

811
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: I think true story, So okay, keep going.

812
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: Parents familiar so anyways, but then the orca, it's really

813
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: it's so disturbing and so but this is the whole

814
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: mother primal thing.

815
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: Just seriously follow So I'm on a romantic whale watching

816
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: story in my brain.

817
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: Suddenly, you know, So the orca is they like the

818
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: baby whales and so sad. So that but the moms

819
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: they know this, so that to protect their baby whales

820
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: they literally like put them on their stomachs and then

821
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: like roll over to protect them from the orca.

822
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: I know. It was so sad that guy was like

823
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: telling us this.

824
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just want to go home to Roman

825
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: him on my stomach roll I want to roll over.

826
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

827
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: Protection, But I know, but that sort of them had

828
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: me thinking about that again. That motherly instinct to protect

829
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: your child, that's all it is. So it's okay that

830
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: you don't want to be away from him.

831
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: I know. Also we have to remember to be with

832
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 2: the people we made them with. So that's where I'm at.

833
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: I know, And we we did. We had like the

834
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: best time.

835
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: I actually really think like I need it more than

836
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: I think I need it when I'm with him, because

837
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: we're we're only each other's sole focus, and I miss

838
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: being taken care of like that. Like it's different. Like

839
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: I fell asleep on the plane. I woke up to

840
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: him like playing with my hair, and I was like, oh,

841
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 2: like I felt sweet. I know, well, he's he's good

842
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: at that. We've just there's all this like messiness in

843
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: between of like the industry and the travel and the

844
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: feelings and that you don't get to talk to each

845
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: other or see each other, you know, Like I think

846
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: you start to sort it out and it really just

847
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: comes back to like really fairly easy if you're just

848
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: talking to each other and spending time with each other.

849
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: Mama's it's okay to miss your babies, but go be

850
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: with the ones he made him with.

851
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: That's right. I'm really proud of you. We've done it

852
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: all right, friends, see you next week. I want to

853
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: be like Jenny and Donnie. I'm playing in town.

854
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 4: Mhm