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Speaker 1: Who's going to be talking to us about his fantastic

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Speaker 2: So we'll get into that.

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Speaker 1: And we also talked about you know, I was reading

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Speaker 1: I'm so like jaw dropped by Michelle and Cindy.

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Speaker 2: How have you? How have you not had Michelle on

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Speaker 2: She's like she's from the Matrix. There's no other way

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Speaker 1: So, I mean it could be the same, the exact

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Speaker 1: I know, somebody that can do that, like they have

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Speaker 1: There's a term for it. I can't think of what

435
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: it is.

436
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: But now us I also love some Jedi stuff.

437
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: Right, it's like a big spirit box. What's that thing

438
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: that you guys use, the Katrina's GeoPort geoports that is good.

439
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 2: That thing freaks me out. Man and I. For the

440
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: longest time we're like, no, that's BS. That's just us

441
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: kind of searching for you know, We're like descrambling mumble

442
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: jumble to try and find it. This is all in

443
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: our head. And one day we were doing an investigation

444
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: and Katrina said, how many people are in the room

445
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: right now? And the thing turned around. I went nine

446
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: and then when nine people stood in the room.

447
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's another compliment I'll give to the show

448
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: is that from watching so many years of these shows,

449
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I have a special place in my heart

450
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: for EVPs. And you know, it's sort of a joke

451
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: at this point that somebody shows it's like, really, that's

452
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: not that doesn't really sound like that. But you guys

453
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: have good EVPs, like you guys, Actually they always sound

454
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: exactly like what you guys think that they're sounding.

455
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, no, it's it's it's That's what I love

456
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: so much about our show is that we, like I

457
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 2: and my show and our show runner Elaine and Katrina

458
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: and I, we all kind of like we want to

459
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: make a paranormal show that we would want to watch.

460
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 2: And I'm sick of like grown ass men screaming and

461
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: running down hallways of old abandoned prisons and like freaking out.

462
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: I'm like guys off the like you know, however, many

463
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: double digit seasons of whatever paranormalill show you're on, you're

464
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 2: still freaking out like that, Like come on, Like, I

465
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: get spooked big time. I'll get spooked all day long,

466
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: but I'm not, I mean, not like that. It's just

467
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: like and then when they get evidence, it's like, dude,

468
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: like poke holes in it, figure it out, go like

469
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: is this real? How could this be real? Could have

470
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: been the wind, could have something, you know, was there

471
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: a creepy floorboard? Like like it just it frustrates me.

472
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: But the good thing is it gives us the opportunity

473
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: to kind of do our do how we do.

474
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean what what does scare you? Like?

475
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: What what paranormal? Paranormal wise? Like what what? What can

476
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: what's gotten you?

477
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: I think it's the times we've had the jump scares,

478
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 2: like when we've had had big bangs, like when we've

479
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: had certain things happen in which would allude to some

480
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: kind of aggressive energy that freaks me out. And ultimately

481
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: like it's just the fields. Sometimes you go to places

482
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: and it's just like everything in you is like get out.

483
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: I was absolutely terrified at Eastern State Penitentiary, Like everything

484
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: in my call was like leave here, now, go back

485
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: to your hotel and go to bed, like don't don't

486
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 2: be here. And I had like we had a lot

487
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: of intense experiences that I saw a shadow walk out

488
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: of one cell into another. I saw you know, we

489
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: went up to the death row area, and this light

490
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: started violently swinging right above my head. And then I

491
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: had a very strange experience, and it's one of the

492
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: only times it's ever happened where I looked into an

493
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: area of the prison which would have been like the

494
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: guiding hall, and I had like a full it was like,

495
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to say a vision because I didn't

496
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: see it. It was like it was like someone implanted

497
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: a memory in my head and I saw like in

498
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: this memory, a guy walked to the window and like

499
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: lean like up against the window and look at me,

500
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: and I saw like the room full of people sat

501
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: down eating and it was the weirdest experience I've ever had.

502
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 2: I can't quite I don't even know what it was.

503
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: Whoa It was like someone inserted a memory into my head.

504
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: Were you like out of it or were you just

505
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: sort of it was just sort of happening, and we're

506
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: just just poking around and we walked.

507
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: I walked into this area and I and I looked

508
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: through this window and it was like as if like

509
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: think about when, like I don't know what you like,

510
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: when was the last like did you go do a

511
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: grocery run last week? Or whatever, like think about that

512
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: memory of like just walking through the grocery store and

513
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: like just seeing shit Like that's what popped into my head. Wow,

514
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: it felt like I had witnessed something there before, and

515
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: I was remembering what I saw last time I was there.

516
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: Do you I mean, it's kind of a stupid question,

517
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 1: but do you have any way of rationalizing that or

518
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: do you have any like explanation of how that can happen?

519
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: Maybe imagination, you know, maybe that that I would say

520
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: a rational could be. You know, maybe you were just

521
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: imagining of what a scene in this dining hall would

522
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: have been like from you know, nineteen thirty five. But

523
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: I here's the crazy thing, Like the guy that I

524
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: can I can still see the guy guy's face that

525
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: looked at me, and he came right up to the

526
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: window and he put one he put his like he

527
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: put one hand up on like the vertical part of

528
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: the window like where in bars, and one hand on

529
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: like the window sill and just kind of like peered

530
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: up to the window and like looked at me and

531
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: he had these really had a really pronounced like widow's

532
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: peak bowlding on top, very gaunt face and he just

533
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: kind of looked at me and like turned back to

534
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: the table that was full of people sat around eating.

535
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: I don't but and it was a thing like I

536
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: didn't see it with my own eyes, but it was

537
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: like this memory like popped into my head.

538
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, were you able to find like a picture of

539
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: that guy by any chance?

540
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: Nope, didn't find a picture. Looked through tons of stuff around.

541
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: I was like, did I maybe see a picture of

542
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: this guy? And I'm just imagining that this is what

543
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: he would have done? I mean, and then I you know,

544
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: we spoke to a medium and I was like, what

545
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: could have been? And you know, she said that sometimes,

546
00:31:54,280 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: you know, residual energy can appear as a memory.

547
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: Do you want to listen to some ghost voices? Yes,

548
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: it is time for EVP or ev plase, okay, Jack,

549
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: I this is what I do. I go to YouTube

550
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 1: and I look for EVPs of various places. Now I

551
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 1: decided to go to places that you guys have been

552
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 1: in Portals to Hell because you know, other people on

553
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: YouTube have also been there and they've caught some things.

554
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: And so I'm just basically gonna play these EVPs and

555
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: I want you to guess either what you hear or

556
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: what the what the ghost hunter might believe it says,

557
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: And I'll give you a couple of options. So okay,

558
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: this first one is from somebody on YouTube named Mike Robbins,

559
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: and it is at the Iron Island Music Am in

560
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: the Basement.

561
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: Which, yeah, I've been there.

562
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: I've been in Buffalo, right? Is that where West Buffalo,

563
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: New York? Yeah?

564
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Buffalo?

565
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, what do you hear? This is kind of

566
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 1: hard to do over the phone, but we'll try it.

567
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: What do you hear this ghost saying? Yeah, I played again?

568
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't.

569
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: Want you to I don't want you to Yeah, it's

570
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: kind of a whisper.

571
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't Okay, I don't want I don't want

572
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: you to leave.

573
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't want you to leave. Okay, Well here it's

574
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: gonna be one of these options. This is what they

575
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: believe it said. Is it a ayahuasca? I don't like you?

576
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: See I don't work here? Or d I know why? Cliff?

577
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: Maybe they knew, you know, they wanted to let you

578
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: know that they know the singer white Clip.

579
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: I I hear I don't want you to leave, but

580
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: I can see I don't work here. Is what they

581
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: might have thought.

582
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: Now who who haunted that one? Again? Was that there

583
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: was a little kid in that one.

584
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: There was everything from like a like a demonic entity,

585
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: like a huge, big black shape with like you know,

586
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: like a full on like devil figure. There was a

587
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: little girl that was I mean, there's a lot because

588
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 2: the place was a funeral a funeral home for a while,

589
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: so lots of bodies were embombed there and and all that.

590
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: So I mean when they moved in there was like

591
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: they found like shelves and shelves of unclaimed ashes.

592
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: Wow, well they believe it says I don't like you,

593
00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: which I can kind of hear too. Yeah, I don't

594
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: like you. I don't like it. I don't I see.

595
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: But but like at the end, like you har moving around,

596
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: but it almost sounds like it cuts off like I

597
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: don't want you to leave. But I could hear I

598
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: don't like you.

599
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait, one more time, it's definitely I don't something. Yeah, Okay,

600
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: here's one more. This is from somebody on YouTube named

601
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: A R. C Ohio and it is at Bobby Maggie's

602
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: a classic Wilder Kentucky No I Have and I'm too scared.

603
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, places some woogie boogie d that for sure.

604
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't the well room. And tell me what

605
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: you think this ghost is saying. Okay, wait, this is

606
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: sort of a deep spooky boys. All right, you can

607
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 1: like kind to barely hear it one more time.

608
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: I can't take that out.

609
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: I know it's hard. Is it a chocolate milk? It's

610
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: sort of like it. It sounds like that kind of

611
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: voice chocolate. I'm doing a great impression chocolate milk. B

612
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: don't go there see choke on this or D it's

613
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: just nothing. Wait here, let me play it again.

614
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 2: I mean, is it don't go through that.

615
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: It's they believe it's choke on this, which I can.

616
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely maybe he's a freak.

617
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 2: Listen, he's like totally. He's like he's like Machine from

618
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: was it Machine from eight Milimeter? Do you ever see

619
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: that film?

620
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: I have not seen that film, but that's a that's.

621
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: A dog film.

622
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's definitely easier to hear with headphones out.

623
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: Let me play it one more time, okay.

624
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: Joke condos, I kind of hear it.

625
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: I have to ask, just because people that listen to

626
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: the show know that my favorite TV show of all

627
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: time is celebrity ghost stories and especially like the old

628
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: format of the storytelling. And you were on it and

629
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: you told the story about the haunted house that your

630
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: family lives in in England. Does your family do they

631
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: still own that house? Do you guys still live there?

632
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? They do? And Okay, so I'm gonna give you

633
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: a bit of trickery. What they ended up doing was

634
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: because we had two houses we lived in which were haunted,

635
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: the house in England, which my family still owns, and

636
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: the other one which was in Malibu, which was a

637
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: beach house my parents owned for like five or six

638
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: years and like some music producer owns it now. But yes,

639
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: and both places are still very odd.

640
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: But what do you mean? They did some trickery.

641
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: So they kind of said, hey, listen, it's too confusing.

642
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: Can we just blend the story to where it makes

643
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: it sound like it's all one house. Because so they

644
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: kind of did that versus differentiating one thing happened at

645
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: one house in Malibu and one thing happened at a

646
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 2: house in England.

647
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: God, so what's going on at the house that you

648
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: guys have in England. So my.

649
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: Best friend who I grew up with, he will house

650
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: sit for us in England when people that work there

651
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Speaker 2: are on vacation. And he just had a baby, and

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Speaker 2: this is very recently. He just had a baby and

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Speaker 2: she woke up in the middle of the night and

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Speaker 2: he went in there with his wife and they were

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Speaker 2: just kind of getting her back to sleep and he

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Speaker 2: was helping out and it was like three or four

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Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, and they could hear someone singing

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Speaker 2: in the house, a female voice and someone singing, And

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Speaker 2: they didn't say anything to each other at the moment,

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Speaker 2: and then when they went and got back into bed,

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Speaker 2: they were like, did you hear that? So they were

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Speaker 2: like they both were like, yep, the singing. So that

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Speaker 2: happened recently. Kelly had some stuff like fly off the

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Speaker 2: shelf of her bathroom while she was in there, like

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Speaker 2: not just fall off, like launch across the room. You know.

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Speaker 2: I it's one of those places where when you're alone

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Speaker 2: in that house, it is terrifying. Yeah, but yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean we've had that house for a million years

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Speaker 2: and that now the current owner of the house in Malibu.

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Speaker 2: We just got I got a message on Instagram from

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Speaker 2: the guy's mother saying, Hey, did you ever experience anything

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Speaker 2: paranormal here, because this place just goes off. And I

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Speaker 2: was like absolutely, and I kind of shared with her

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Speaker 2: on Instagram, like everything that happened to me.

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Speaker 1: There, which is what can you give us a story?

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 2: That was the place where my dad and I both

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Speaker 2: saw the girl with long dark hair go running down

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Speaker 2: the stairs.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you think it's the same girl

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Speaker 1: that's that visited you in the middle of the night.

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Speaker 2: Oh maybe it's my Maybe this girl is like my

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Speaker 2: guardian angel, but yet very evil looking.

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Speaker 1: I mean it could be.

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Speaker 2: No. I don't, man, I don't know. I I put it,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think so. It doesn't feel like

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Speaker 2: the same energy, you know, it doesn't feel like the

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Speaker 2: same person to me. But I do think that that

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Speaker 2: Malible house was haunted as ship.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what you seem to be one of

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Speaker 1: these people that the ghosts just love. They can't get enough.

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Speaker 2: I don't, man, you know, I actually I kind of

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Speaker 2: disagree because when I want it's I never have the

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Speaker 2: craziest stuff happened on investigations. It's usually pretty you know,

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Speaker 2: every probably fifth time we go out, does something like shattering,

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Speaker 2: like an Iron Island when the flashlight or that the

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Speaker 2: Hell House in Texas when it sounded like someone beat

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Speaker 2: the wall with a baseball bat. So it's it's kind

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Speaker 2: of like, I guess the stuff that gets me really

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Speaker 2: like freaked is I guess every fifth investigation really well.

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Speaker 1: I just so appreciate you taking the time. Can you

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Speaker 1: tell people you know where the show is? Where? Defined

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Speaker 1: to you everything that's going on?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely So, Portals to Hell is on Thursday nights at

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Speaker 2: ten pm on Travel Channel and you can also download

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Speaker 2: the Travel Travel Channel go app for free and you

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Speaker 2: can check it out there too at your own leisure leisure.

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Speaker 1: How have you said? Thank you Jack Osborne again, make

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Speaker 1: sure you're watching Portals the Hell.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love.

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Speaker 1: It And if you're a fan of the show, we

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Speaker 1: also had Katrina Wideman is co host on the show

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Speaker 1: last year at some point, so you can go back

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Speaker 1: and listen to Katrino. She is a icon of the

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Speaker 1: paranormal TV field. She's done so many different shows and

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Speaker 1: investigated practically everywhere, so she has great stories as well,

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Speaker 1: so go check that out. As always, you can find

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Speaker 1: me on Instagram at Roz Dress Falas venmo Queen Roz

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Speaker 1: joined the Facebook group ghosted by Roz dress Falas. There's

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Speaker 1: been Oh my gosh, that reminds me. There is some

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Speaker 1: insane stuff that is in Facebook group right now. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've talked already that it seems like ghosts right now

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Speaker 1: are kind of going crazy with everybody being quarantined. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's been some more. There's been some videos and photos.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how recent all this stuff actually was,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was posted recently, but there is. Let

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Speaker 1: me find it. There was a video of a what

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Speaker 1: do you call those, like a nest camera, like an

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Speaker 1: outdoor security camera, ring camera. Let's see who posted that.

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Speaker 1: It was so crazy. There's like an orb that literally

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Speaker 1: looks like a person walking. Oh it was Megan. Megan,

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Speaker 1: thank you for posting it. She said that her friend

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Speaker 1: had taken this video and you should check it out.

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Speaker 1: There's also a human being walking in it that it

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Speaker 1: seems we cannot tell if that human being is a

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Speaker 1: ghost or alive. And Tracy, thank you for posting this

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Speaker 1: photo in there.

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Speaker 2: That it took me. I spent a little bit of

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Speaker 2: time staring at this photo.

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Speaker 1: It's of emmittt Kelly, who was I know because I

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Speaker 1: come from the clown World.

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Speaker 2: I love.

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Speaker 1: I have a weird obsession with clowns because my family

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Speaker 1: comes from clown It's a whole other podcast, but anyway,

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Speaker 1: there's a photo of a legendary clown named Emmit Kelly

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Speaker 1: Junior who was a family friend of Tracy's, and there's

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Speaker 1: a ghost in the Tracy also posted a great story

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Speaker 1: about the ghost and this photo, but I couldn't figure

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Speaker 1: it out, could not find the ghost. And then somebody

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Speaker 1: in the comments said, oh, you've got to check out

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Speaker 1: the woman's hair in the picture. You'll see an eyeball.

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Speaker 1: And I looked at it and I threw my phone

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Speaker 1: across the room.

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Speaker 2: So check that out.

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Speaker 1: But don't do it before bedtime because it's terrifying.

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Speaker 2: So enjoin the Facebook.

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Speaker 1: Grew and please rate the show five stars on Apple

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Speaker 1: podcast And if you have a ghost story, you can

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Speaker 1: leave it there or you could just read a nice

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Speaker 1: review if you like. And I love you guys, both

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Speaker 1: living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to

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Speaker 1: haunt me, don't haunt me.

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Speaker 2: Gay bye.

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