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Speaker 2: on Friday Saturday Night, Huge Show. Tonight, we'll have erin

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Speaker 2: Tortus at about fifteen minutes. He and JJ Reddick have

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Speaker 2: a past, maybe even got a future. You're gonna want

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Speaker 2: to hear about this. It speaks to temperament. I told you.

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Speaker 2: Chuck Day once told me that, you know, managing coaching

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Speaker 2: an NBA team is all about managing an adult day

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Speaker 2: case center. Hold that thought is Briannie James going to

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Speaker 2: get drafted. We got the draft this week. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 2: all kinds of NFL updates, brand newfool what my name?

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Speaker 2: Can the Edmonton Oilers do it? I'll give you some

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Speaker 2: history later in the show. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: in about fourteen hours, Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese tee

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Speaker 2: it up again. I would say it's the rubber match,

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Speaker 2: but Clark's beaten her twice. But regardless, you want to

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Speaker 2: go to the game two hundred and seventy one dollars ticket. Yep,

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Speaker 2: you heard me right. But we begin with the biggest

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Speaker 2: story of the week, and this is the one you

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Speaker 2: can be talking about all the way through next June.

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Speaker 2: I guarantee it. The Lakers have their man, JJ Reddick.

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Speaker 2: He's their new head coach. And you know the first

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Speaker 2: thing that struck me when that anti climactic event was

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Speaker 2: finally announced the other day. In Lebron's I westriest career,

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Speaker 2: he's had eight coaches and what dude, David black, Tyloo

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Speaker 2: and Darvin Ham all have in common. Well, yes, they

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Speaker 2: all coach Lebron, but all of them had zero NBA

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Speaker 2: head coaching experience when they were hired, and all of

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Speaker 2: them lasted only two years. That's it. Now JJ Reddick

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Speaker 2: has a four year deal. I'm not casting dispersions all

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Speaker 2: night making predictions, but you tell me what's going to

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Speaker 2: be different, you see, because there's no doubt in my

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Speaker 2: mind that JJ Reddick has a high basketball IQ. We

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Speaker 2: all know that. There's no doubt in my mind he'll

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Speaker 2: bring work ethic and he had a fourteen year, seventeen

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Speaker 2: That's not the issue. The question will be can he

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Speaker 2: produce results while learning on the job in the white

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Speaker 2: it's not just about how smart he is and whether

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Speaker 2: or not he's willing to work hard, which I believe

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Speaker 2: both those things are true. But when the rubber hits

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Speaker 2: the road and life unfolds and living color and you

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Speaker 2: are all of a sudden in an NBA game against

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Speaker 2: the likes of Denver or Dallas or Oklahoma City or Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: what do we know about JJ Reddick and his game

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Speaker 2: management skills? What do we know about his substitution patterns.

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Speaker 2: Can he maximize players coming out of a timeout? How

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Speaker 2: about situational points during the game? And he hasn't assembled

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Speaker 2: his staff yet. Now I know it's my I was

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Speaker 2: told by a good source that a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: he asked Sam Cassell. Sam Cassell said not no, hell no,

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Speaker 2: you know what. I don't blame Sam Cassell. And this

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Speaker 2: sort of raises a question. Let's talk about this. We

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Speaker 2: know the Lakers. I think everything they do is based

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Speaker 2: considered Sam Cassell's a head coach. Hell He's only been

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Speaker 2: an assistant fifteen years. He's only been a part of

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Speaker 2: years was JJ Redick an assistant coach? Same as me? Zero?

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Speaker 2: I was an intern at the Forum and the Lakers

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Speaker 2: he's now the head coach of the Lakers. This is

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Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show, I tried to dive into angles. I

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Speaker 2: just hate that I the third person there. Excuse me

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Speaker 2: championship or bus team every year. You don't have to

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Speaker 2: believe it, but they do. But there are two words

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Speaker 2: this season. Forty and fifty. Lebron turns forty on December thirtieth.

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Speaker 2: By the way, he can become a free agent between

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Speaker 2: room with another fifty million dollars deal. All right, For

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Speaker 2: the second straight season, the Lakers required a playing tournament

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Speaker 2: to qualify for the playoffs. So, by the way, Lebron

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Speaker 2: wanted a guy who came up with the idea of

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Speaker 2: the Lakers have lived in the playing tournament, so maybe

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Speaker 2: that's not such a smart thing. By the way, over

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Speaker 2: the past three seasons spanning coaches Frank Vogel, who won

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Speaker 2: Here's the bottom line. They're a good bada team. They're

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Speaker 2: sure as hell not a great team, and they're assure

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Speaker 2: as hell not championship caliber. And now be careful what

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Speaker 2: you wish for because JJ Raddick is about to step

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Speaker 2: into the fire. The reality is, when your team is

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Speaker 2: built on a forty year old in his foundation, there

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Speaker 2: are limitations, sorry, there are There are limitations as to

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Speaker 2: those what do those limitations do? They lower the team's potential,

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Speaker 2: They lower the team's ceiling. Now I get it. The

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Speaker 2: He's called Lebron James. You don't like hearing that. Your problem,

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Speaker 2: not mine. Fifty million bucks are going to give this guy,

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Speaker 2: probably for the next three years, for a forty year

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Speaker 2: But it's all about Lebron. Let's say the Lakers win

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Speaker 2: they don't, he'll blame somebody else, probably JJ Reddick. Just

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Speaker 2: say it. The Lakers have a little bit of wiggle

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Speaker 2: who is that player? Do you want to give up

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me you're gonna go after Jimmy Butler out Hill.

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Speaker 2: He might even be available. But it's thirty five years old.

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Speaker 2: So what are you doing? What if Cleveland woke up

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Speaker 2: one day and says, hey, Lakers, we'll give you Donovan

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Speaker 2: Mitchell for a bag of balls. No, they wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 2: In order to get a guy of Donovan Mitchell's caliber,

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Speaker 2: that would cost way more than the Lakers could offer.

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Speaker 2: And let's say they had Donovan Mitchell alongside of Lebron

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Speaker 2: and an ad And I'm just talking to Mint, who

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Speaker 2: We're in the shopping mall life. This is the toy department.

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Speaker 2: We just have a little fun. You tell me that

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Speaker 2: evens the playing field against against Luca and Kyrie and

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks. Nope, Anthony Edwards, Shay Gilgis Alexander Nope.

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Speaker 2: Those four teams I mentioned, Dallas, Denver, Minnesota, OKC. The

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Speaker 2: Lakers are not better than any of those teams. The Lakers,

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Speaker 2: if they go for that third star, that will severely

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Speaker 2: year they realized heavily on D'Angelo Russell, ru hachimurvo I

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Speaker 2: like Torrian, Prince Spencer, didnwitty and let's just cut to

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Speaker 2: the chase. After you just saw the Boston Celtics and

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Speaker 2: their depth in the NBA Finals, can you really realistically

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Speaker 2: what happens with lebron led teams. They're going to exhaust

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Speaker 2: every available option to win now, and it's delusional. Somehow

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Speaker 2: they did it four years ago in the bubble. I

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Speaker 2: give them an asteris that's not fair because everybody had

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Speaker 2: played by the same rules. They wont it far and square.

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Speaker 2: You don't like it too bad, so you problem give

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Speaker 2: you don't have four months off. All right, So the Lakers' strategy,

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Speaker 2: the good news is JJ Redick would be catching some

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Speaker 2: That's not bad. It's a lot more than a lot

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Speaker 2: what do you want to bet the Lakers are not

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Speaker 2: This will be fun to watch. It's all about the theater.

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Speaker 2: Dick Schapp taught me a long time ago. What's your

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Speaker 2: favorite sports people? Who's your favorite team? No, how to

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Speaker 2: have a developing story, not the least of which we'll

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Speaker 2: start Thursday night. I didn't even get into the Lebron

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Speaker 2: BROWNI Michigans and what are you going to do? There?

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Speaker 2: A huge side show. I'm not going to get into it.

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Speaker 2: We'll do that later with Mark Mandina at midnight. You

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Speaker 2: know where I was going with that. Anyway, it does

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Speaker 2: it really matter coming up? Aaron trus and JJ Reddick

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Speaker 2: have a history. I think Reddick even had a nickname

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Speaker 2: and if you listen to the subtext of what Aaron

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Speaker 2: I covered the four Lakers Pistons series. Why did I

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Speaker 2: bring that up? Okay, Piston's one and five. Three of

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Speaker 2: the four victories that the Pistons had, they accumulated eighty

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Speaker 2: eight points. Yeah, team scored eighty eight points. So there

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Speaker 2: was a time when defense truly was played. Those were

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Speaker 2: be good for TV ratings, and blah blah blah. You

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Speaker 2: get the point. Anyway, you're gonna enjoy this, and I

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Speaker 2: think it might speak to you whether or not JJ

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Speaker 2: hello to my guy, Aaron Torris. Hi, Aaron, Hi doing bud.

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Speaker 6: I had this tweet the other day some knucklehead said,

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Speaker 5: you have to criticize Brianni in front of his dad,

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Speaker 5: I just don't think he fully knows what he's getting

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Speaker 5: himself into.

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Speaker 2: Last thing, Aaron, I think this is pertinent. What does

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Speaker 2: it say when JJ Reddick, just a dude going about

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Speaker 2: his life as you were doing your job, he blocks you.

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Speaker 2: What is that message?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean I think it mean it means he's

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Speaker 5: a little bit soft. You know, it's funny basically why

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Speaker 5: he blocked me on social media because you know, Bertie,

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Speaker 5: I have a little I'm from the East Coast and

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Speaker 5: I have a little you know, I don't start fights.

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Speaker 5: I finished him, so you know, I kind of made

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Speaker 5: it a priority that every time a team did score

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Speaker 5: in the seventies and eighties, because I don't know if

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Speaker 5: you heard, but it's a math equation, Bernie, It's a

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Speaker 5: math yeah, yes, eight more minutes in an NBA Bridie.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you caught the final score of

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Speaker 5: Game five of the end NBA Finals. I believe Boston

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Speaker 5: won one oh six eighty nine, So you know, it's

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Speaker 5: a math equation if there's eight more minutes in the NBA.

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Speaker 5: In three of the finals games this year, the losing

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Speaker 5: team didn't break nineties, so defense still matters. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 5: I kind of made it a priority to just to

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Speaker 5: make sure because I know Jaz is a huge basketball fan.

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Speaker 5: I just want to make sure that when a team

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Speaker 5: scored in the eighties or nineties or a seventies or eighties,

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Speaker 5: that he was aware of it. So I may have

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Speaker 5: tweeted him every single time it happened. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 5: did you see a JJ? Did you see Minnesota beat

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Speaker 5: the Jazz and the Jazz only scored eighty eight? Just

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Speaker 5: want to make sure you saw JJ. And then what

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Speaker 5: ended up happening, which was funny, was a lot of

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Speaker 5: my followers, a lot of listeners to my show, both

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Speaker 5: my podcast and Fox Sports Radio kind of made it

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Speaker 5: a priority to tweet at him as well, just to

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Speaker 5: let him know. So eventually he blocked me. By the way,

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Speaker 5: if anybody wanted to get JJ some final scores from

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Speaker 5: Game five of the NBA Finals, feel free to tweet

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Speaker 5: at him at JJ Underscore Reddick. Just let him know

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Speaker 5: you know the Mavericks didn't break ninety in the final

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Speaker 5: game of the NBA Finals. Three of the five the

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Speaker 5: losing team didn't break ninety. Just thought he might want

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Speaker 5: to know that, But again, what do I know? It's

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Speaker 5: a math equation as so clearly I don't know anything

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Speaker 5: about basketball.

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Speaker 2: I love it big finish there. I'd give you the

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Speaker 2: w Aaron Torres won, JJ Reddick zip enjoy the rest

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Speaker 2: of your evening, buddy.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think he's gonna be taking a lot of

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Speaker 5: LS as the Lakers head coach, so I think it's

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Speaker 5: good for him to get used to taking the LP

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Speaker 5: from me too.

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Speaker 2: All right, eron, have fun, Sondy. You're back on your

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Speaker 2: way Sunday. Correct.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll be on with Mark Willard at eight eastern

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Speaker 5: five Pacific.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait, all right, Aaron, appreciate you, Bud, talk soon.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Bernie's Aaron Torris. As you can see, if he can

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Speaker 2: just get over the shyness, he's going to be just fine.

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Speaker 2: But if you follow that in kind between him and

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Speaker 2: JJ Redick, Aaron was in the right sorry spot the

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Speaker 2: line spot where Aaron was wrong in any of these

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Speaker 2: And Aaron didn't call anybody any names either, So just

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Speaker 2: calling it like it is all right. Well, if you

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Speaker 2: didn't have enough before at one pm Pacific on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: the most watched sports event I guarantee of the day.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the weekend will be Yes, you got it. Caitlin

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Speaker 2: Clark versus Auries. What does the coff If you want

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Speaker 2: to go, well, I'll clue you in. Kevin up. But

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Speaker 2: first's bringing our guy, the chef, Kevin Wyre with the latest.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Bernie. Was a full day of Major League baseball

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Speaker 8: on Saturday, the Dodgers getting a win against the La

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Speaker 8: Angels seven to two after losing last night in extra innings.

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Speaker 8: The Dodgers getting the win behind another big blast from

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Speaker 8: Choe Aotani swung on a.

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Speaker 2: Hammer where back in God he is one man, three nothing.

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Speaker 8: Dodgers to never it on the Dodgers Radio Network with

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Speaker 8: the call. LA getting the win behind a strong performance

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Speaker 8: from Tyler Glass now seven innings with one earned run allowed.

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Speaker 8: He also had ten strikeouts, throwing just seventy four pitches.

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Speaker 8: The Yankees beat the Braves eight three behind Aaron judges

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Speaker 8: twenty eighth home run of the season. Rockies and Nationals,

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Speaker 8: It's the Colorado Rockies getting the win on a pitchclock violation.

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Speaker 9: Three balls, two strikes, tied at seven.

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Speaker 2: The pitch time cold.

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Speaker 10: Time violation on pitchclock violation on Finnegan and that's the game.

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Speaker 9: The Rockies on the pitcher Finnegan taking too much time.

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Speaker 8: That becomes ball four and for the first.

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Speaker 2: Time in the new rules, the.

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Speaker 9: Rockies have a walk off on a hitch violation.

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Speaker 8: Rockies Radio Network with the call Colorado getting the win

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Speaker 8: because Kyle Finn again took too much time, didn't get

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Speaker 8: the pitch off in time, and they're able to get

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Speaker 8: the victory. San Diego, the Padres now have won four

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Speaker 8: straight games, including a six to four victory against the

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Speaker 8: Brewers Saturday ninth. The Astros have also won four straight games.

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Speaker 8: They beat the Orioles five one. The Cleveland Guardians also

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Speaker 8: with a four game winning streak, a six to three

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Speaker 8: win against Toronto on Saturday included. The Twins beat the

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Speaker 8: Oakland Athletics ten to two, as Oakland now a dreadful

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Speaker 8: twenty nine to fifty on the season. Minnesota's Bailey over

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Speaker 8: and only eighty nine pitches, tossing a complete game with

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Speaker 8: ten strikeouts. I believe they call that a Mattix right,

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Speaker 8: a complete game with less than one hundred pitches. Philadelphia

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Speaker 8: ripped Arizona twelve to one, The Cubs blasted the Mets

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Speaker 8: eight to one, and the White Sox beat the Detroit

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Speaker 8: Tigers five to one. College World Series. It's a best

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Speaker 8: of three final and it's Texas A and M taking

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Speaker 8: the opener against Tennessee at nine to five WNBA. The

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Speaker 8: New York Liberty beat the LA Sparks ninety eight eighty

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Speaker 8: eight behind thirty three points from Brianna Stewart. Travelers Championship.

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Speaker 8: Tom Kim leads by one stroke. Scottie Scheffler tied for

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Speaker 8: second place. Cam Young shot fifty nine today and is

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Speaker 8: tied for eighth place. Copa America, Mexico won its opener

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Speaker 8: one nil against Jamaica. Earlier in Venezuela came back to

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Speaker 8: be Ecuador two to one. The US does open against

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Speaker 8: Bolivia tomorrow on Fox TV. Kickoff set for around six

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Speaker 8: o'clock Eastern time. And at the Euro Tournament, Belgium beats

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Speaker 8: Romania two nil, Portugal shutting out Turkey three nil, and

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Speaker 8: the Czech Republic tize. Georgia won one Will hear more

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Speaker 8: about both of these tournaments from Chris purfet In at

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Speaker 8: the bottom of our two o'clock hour. Back to you, Berniey.

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Speaker 2: So, the ten most expensive WNBA games this season involved

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Speaker 2: the Indiana Fever, and you know why. One of those

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Speaker 2: will be Sunday. Two hundred and seventy one dollars is

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Speaker 2: the ticket price to get into that game, and it'll

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Speaker 2: be shown live on ESPN one pm Pacific. And essentially

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Speaker 2: what we now have confirmation of is that the rivalry

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Speaker 2: between Caitlin Clark and Angel Reies that was in college

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Speaker 2: is carried over into the w NBA, hence the record

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Speaker 2: ticket prices. This will be the third time the Fever

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Speaker 2: in the Sky I've met the season, the first time

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Speaker 2: the two teams, though, will play in Chicago and when

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Speaker 2: Trust Arena. The first two matchups, both won by the Fever,

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Speaker 2: were in Indianapolis. Here's what's interesting. The average price of

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Speaker 2: a ticket for the first game was a little over

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Speaker 2: one hundred dollars, the second game with one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty four dollars. It's now jumped to two hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventy one dollars. You think there's interest, Well it's not.

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Speaker 2: Just what's happening too on the scoreboard, and the first

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Speaker 2: matchup between Indiana and Chicago, the Fever won, and frankly

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Speaker 2: it was overshadowed Kennedy Carter. Chicago's Kennedy Carter called her

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Speaker 2: a name rhymes with witch, shoved her from behind. Alberta

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Speaker 2: were in the back. It was not a basketball play

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Speaker 2: was met with some backlash, and how the Sky and

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Speaker 2: Carter handled the incident frankly was worse facts spot the lie.

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Speaker 2: It was unnecessary, but it happened. Then the two teams

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Speaker 2: met recently again, this time Aja Reese was assessed with

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Speaker 2: a flavor and file after in a Fish review she

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Speaker 2: hit Caitlin Clark in the head on a draft of

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Speaker 2: the basket. I have no idea if it was intentional

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Speaker 2: or not. Angel Rees was very unapologetic about it, complained

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Speaker 2: about the refs, complaining other people are getting preferential treatment. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: the Fever won again. So here we are now round three.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, it's been a great couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks for Angel Reese. She just set a WNBA rookie

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Speaker 2: record for most consecutive double doubles. She's a damn good player,

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Speaker 2: great low post player, great pastor, great court vision, really

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Speaker 2: a terrific player. For some reason, she's got it in

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Speaker 2: her head that she just can't get along without all

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Speaker 2: this crazy Michigas. She's got it in for Kitlin Clark

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Speaker 2: and they're in lives. I think the draw. There are

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Speaker 2: deeper storylines, there are subplots. The broader discussion around Caitlin

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Speaker 2: Clark and Angel Reese is always about everything other than basketball.

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Speaker 2: So will that continue on on Sunday. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have to have to watch it. And by

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Speaker 2: the way, it's been going on since college, all right.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty three, there was a March Madness game

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Speaker 2: I think I would beat LSU in the Elite Aid,

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Speaker 2: but then there was a showdown a rematch in the

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Speaker 2: NCAA title game that was won by LSU and that

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Speaker 2: three historic leader of viewership, and that basically set the

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Speaker 2: stage for this ongoing professional rivalry. It's not, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if it's a rivalry. I just

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Speaker 2: I think it just look at the actions. Angel Reese

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Speaker 2: wins a national championship and was a key cog and

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Speaker 2: a very good team, and the minute she wins the

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Speaker 2: championships she's got to follow Caitlyn Clark around the arena

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Speaker 2: with her hand in her face. Okay, if that's whatever,

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Speaker 2: crank's your tractor, that's what your fee, you gotta do.

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Speaker 2: And I don't care. It's just this makes for talking

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Speaker 2: points on the radio. We'll see if it continues. But

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Speaker 2: the bottom line has just been good for business. And

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Speaker 2: when you stick to basketball, Reese has been a damn

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Speaker 2: good player this year. She's been a really good player.

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Speaker 2: And frankly so it's Kitlin Clark. She started to get

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Speaker 2: her flowers. Now she's done a lot of good things

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Speaker 2: so far, and we're talking about the WNBA more than

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Speaker 2: ever primarily because of those two. So this is what

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Speaker 2: you root for in storage. She root for the story

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Speaker 2: and you root for the opportunity to see what will

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Speaker 2: develop above and beyond coming up. You know, we've talked

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Speaker 2: about the new Lakers head coach. We've certainly talked about

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Speaker 2: the fact that you know, in Lebron's tenure, David Black, Tyloo,

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Speaker 2: Darvinham when they became Lebron's head coach, none of them

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Speaker 2: had any NBA head coaching experience. None of them lasted

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Speaker 2: more than two years. But what's interesting is. It's not

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Speaker 2: just Lebron and it's not just the coaches who've been

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Speaker 2: with the Lakers. We now have another NBA season. It's frankly,

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Speaker 2: it's now in the rearview mirror. But when it comes

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Speaker 2: to coaching, when it comes to the head coaching profession

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Speaker 2: in the NBA, the truth is, tenure is not what

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Speaker 2: it used to be. I'll share some stats with you

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Speaker 2: coming up. It's like not a lot of job security

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Speaker 2: in the NBA. Bernie fraderwer Kemedy Liferom the Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Tireck dot Com studios. Keep it locked.

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Speaker 2: see coming, but I think it will engender. Maybe it

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Speaker 2: bore broad based discussion as opposed to just simply reacting

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Speaker 2: top of the hour. As you heard me mention a

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Speaker 2: minute ago. Okay, the NBA season is now in the

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Speaker 2: rear view mirror, and what has become increasingly apparent is

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Speaker 2: there is really very little or no stability when it

666
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Speaker 2: comes to the head coaching profession in the NBA. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the Detroit Pistons just paid where they're gonna pay their owner,

668
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 2: Tom Gores, who's worth about seven billion dollars. It's gonna

669
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Speaker 2: pay money Williams sixty five million dollars to not coach

670
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: after one year. All right, So the truth is, tenure

671
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Speaker 2: is not what he used to be.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: Darvin Ham I think, was very unceremoniously removed from his job,

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Speaker 2: as was David Blatt and Ty lu back in the

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Speaker 2: day and Frank Vogel. Now Thursday, JJ Reddick was announced

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Speaker 2: he will become the new Lakers head coach. If you're

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Speaker 2: scoring at home, and I hope you are, he'll become

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Speaker 2: the twenty ninth coach in Lakers history. And by the way,

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00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: this will be the eighth since Phil Jackson retired and

680
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: the fourth end the Lebron tenure. The Lakers have been

681
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: around about seven years, if not longer. So you see

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00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: how this is coming fast and furious, and he currently

683
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: is the obviously he's the shortest tenured coach in the

684
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Speaker 2: NBA until the Calves and the Pistons high replacements for

685
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Speaker 2: Monty Williams and JB. Bickerstaff, And you know what the hell,

686
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 2: he earned it. He earned it right. He's a podcaster

687
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: who's never coached at a level beyond youth basketball. But

688
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Speaker 2: I get it. He did a hell of a job

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Speaker 2: with those nine years old nine year olds, And I

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Speaker 2: get it. He's smart and he's got a high basketball

691
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,479
Speaker 2: like you, and he's gonna work hard and he gets

692
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Speaker 2: to learn on the job in the white hot intensity

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Speaker 2: of a million sons of this circus known as the Lakers.

694
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Speaker 2: And don't act like it's not a circus, all right,

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Speaker 2: But before we throw JJ Reddick under the bus because

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Speaker 2: it doesn't have any coaching experience, he's not that far

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Speaker 2: behind when it comes to experience. With other NBA coaches

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00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: currently on the job. You probably don't even know the

699
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: name Jordi Fernanis and the Brooklyn Nets, or Charles Lee

700
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: and the Charlotte Ortis. They're also both making their head

701
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: coaching debuts this season along with Reddick. But they're not

702
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Speaker 2: a sexy beyah, exactly, They're not a sexy because it's

703
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: not the Lakers. Maybe you were aware that Brian Keef

704
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: of the Washington Wizards spent less than one full season

705
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Speaker 2: as a head coach, and doct Orakovic of the Toronto

706
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: Raptors will be entering its second full season. In fact,

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Speaker 2: only five t half coaches who were hired before the

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Speaker 2: start of the pandemic. That's not that long ago. The

709
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: pandemic really got into full swing about March or April

710
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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four years and out of thirty two teams,

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Speaker 2: you mean to tell me that's only five teams half

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00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: coaches who were here before the start of the pandemic. Now,

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Speaker 2: as a rule of thumb, not unlike the NFL, approximately

714
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: five teams changed coaches every single offseason. But in the

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Speaker 2: last two years, since May of twenty twenty two, fifteen

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Speaker 2: teams have changed head coaches. So now JJ Reddick will

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Speaker 2: have the distinction of being the sixth head coach in

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Speaker 2: the last decade. It'll be the ninth head coach to

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Speaker 2: face the Miami Heat in the A Spolstra era. He's

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Speaker 2: one of those five who's been around. Of course, if

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Speaker 2: Lebron would have had his way, he'd got him fired.

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Speaker 2: The moral of the story. And I am not predicting this,

723
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Speaker 2: and I certainly am not hoping for this, and I

724
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Speaker 2: don't want to cast dispersions, and don't even tell me

725
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Speaker 2: about a jinx. I don't have that kind of power.

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Speaker 2: But if passed his prologue the moral of the story,

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Speaker 2: it's unlikely that JJ Reddick is going to last that

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Speaker 2: long two years, three years, I don't know. Again, I

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Speaker 2: hope I'm wrong. I'm watching this. The good news is

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Speaker 2: for Reddick is that it should only take about three

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Speaker 2: years to become one of the longest ten yured coaches

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Speaker 2: in the NBA. And he's got three two million reasons

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Speaker 2: to want to do a good job. This is going

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Speaker 2: to be fun to watch. The problem is the Lakers

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Speaker 2: are out manned. Look at their roster. Pete Rose said

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Speaker 2: it best coaching is like driving a stage coach without

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Speaker 2: the horses. He ain't going forward coming out Mark Medina

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Speaker 2: We really have a lot to get to Bernie.

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Speaker 7: We sure do. I think last week we left it off.

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Speaker 7: We jj Riddick finally got hired with the Lakers. I

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Speaker 7: think we got an answer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the most daily climatic news probably in the

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Speaker 2: history of man. But the true matter is there's always

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Speaker 2: storylines around it. And I think where I want to

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Speaker 2: start here Mark is no one questions the basketball IQ

762
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Speaker 2: the work ethic, but he's going to be learning on

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Speaker 2: the job and You've heard me see it a thousand times.

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Speaker 2: Chuck Daly has said managing coaching an NBA team's managing

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Speaker 2: a Bill daycare center. Does he have the temperament given

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Speaker 2: the fact that Tyler, David Blatt, Darvinham, three coaches Lebron

767
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Speaker 2: had all had one thing in common. They had no

768
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Speaker 2: coaching experience and they all laught in two years. Your thoughts,

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Speaker 2: you got the floor.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think JJ Riddick has a tupper bensal succeed.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think the most important thing is that

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Speaker 7: he's obsessed with the craft. He puts in a lot

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Speaker 7: of work. Former NBA player who cement himself with the

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Speaker 7: pretty strong reputation, is a great shooter, great hustler, and

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Speaker 7: great teammate and those are things that can per me

776
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 7: in the locker room and help set his podcast partners

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Speaker 7: Lebron James, who's the most important player on the team,

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Speaker 7: and there's a buy in there. But even with all

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Speaker 7: those positive attributes, I think that there's a lot of

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Speaker 7: challenges that he has with the Lakers because there's three

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00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 7: objectives that are trying to achieve that seem like it's

782
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Speaker 7: impossible to achieve at once. They're trying to maximize the

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Speaker 7: last few years of Lebron James' career. They're trying to

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Speaker 7: pass the tour Anthony Davis, so he's the face of

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Speaker 7: the franchise, and they're trying to develop both the role players,

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Speaker 7: young players and future role players that they get possibly

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Speaker 7: this offseason, and usually you have to prioritize one of

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Speaker 7: them because when you try to do everything, there's the

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Speaker 7: danger of not being able to do all. You add

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Speaker 7: in the fact that it's the Lakers Lebron, there's more pressure.

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Speaker 7: They always have championship expectations. I can't help but think

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Speaker 7: that this is what's going to happen. JJ Reddick's going

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Speaker 7: to be a successful head coach, but I think that

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Speaker 7: his time with the Lakers will feature a lot of

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Speaker 7: ups and downs, and maybe his success is more likely

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Speaker 7: with another team.

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Speaker 2: And I'm okay with the ups and downs. Look what

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Speaker 2: happened to Joe Mozoula the last couple of years, and

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Speaker 2: I gave him a lot of prompts last night because

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Speaker 2: he was really able to navigate through that. All right,

801
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: let's go to the floor, because eventually they're going to

802
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: get down ninety four feet against the Likes. Of OKC,

803
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Speaker 2: in Denver, in Minnesota and Dallas. Tell me how you

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Speaker 2: think JJ Reddick's going to handle things like game management

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Speaker 2: or substitution patterns, they're maximizing plays coming out of timeouts,

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Speaker 2: or certainly the situational points that you have during every game.

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Speaker 2: And I haven't even gotten to his staff yet. You

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Speaker 2: got the floor and all those issues.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well the extras and O is managing the game,

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Speaker 7: calling timeouts. I think JJ Reddick's going to do great

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Speaker 7: with all those things. And I know that the Lakers

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Speaker 7: took a lot of priority in finding a head coach

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Speaker 7: that I feel like had those qualities. One because you

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Speaker 7: want to have the head coach that doesn't, but two

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Speaker 7: that was basically the m and Darvin Hamm on what

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Speaker 7: he lacked. I think that the problem is you can

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Speaker 7: have all the x's and o's in the great game management,

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Speaker 7: but if you have a flawed roster that is either

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Speaker 7: going to have a lot of health issues or just

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Speaker 7: continuity problems, or just lack of talent and depth, it's

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Speaker 7: not going to make too much of a difference against

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Speaker 7: teams like Oklahoma City, Denver, Minnesota, and Dallas. Now to

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Speaker 7: your point about the coaching staff as another thing that

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Speaker 7: the Lakers took high priority on that it wasn't just

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Speaker 7: about the candidate, whether they went for Dan Hurley or

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Speaker 7: JJ Redick or James Barrego. They found that they're coaching

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Speaker 7: staff an extension of that head coach. Now, ironically the

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Speaker 7: coaching staff hasn't been finalized yet, but I think that

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Speaker 7: the message is clear that it's about getting enough of

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Speaker 7: a combination of experience on the sideline as well as

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Speaker 7: some people that could be really good with player development

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Speaker 7: and it can go hand in hand. So when you

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Speaker 7: look at the candidates, it's been out there. You know,

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Speaker 7: someone like Scott Brooks, who has been a head coach

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Speaker 7: in Oklahoma City and Washington assistant coach with Portland. I

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Speaker 7: think that he would be an ideal candid as a

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Speaker 7: veteran assistant coach. And then you have people like Rajon

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Speaker 7: Rondo Jared Dudley. You know, Jared Dudley has been more

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Speaker 7: on the player development and Rajon Rondo hasn't been having

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00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 7: any coaching experience yet. But there are two former NBA

841
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 7: players that are very well respected for their basketball IQ

842
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 7: and they're well respect in the locker room and they

843
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 7: know how to tell it like it is. But you know,

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Speaker 7: I would also argue they should go for someone like

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Speaker 7: Terry Stotts and might raise a few eyebrows because he

846
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 7: and Adrian Griffin didn't see eye to eye, but I

847
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 7: think that had more to do with Adrian Griffin than

848
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 7: anything else, and also the fact that he didn't do

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Speaker 7: a great job. But I think that Terry Stotts is

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Speaker 7: a great offensive mind. He's all his time in Portland

851
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Speaker 7: and I think that he would be very supportive of JJ.

852
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 7: But I don't think he's in the mix, but he

853
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 7: would be a good chance of talking.

854
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: With Mark Medina Medina Magic every Saturday night here on

855
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: the Bernie Fraterschel at midnight Pacific. All right, I'm going

856
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: to invoke the name Sam Cassell and this is going

857
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: to be a two part conversation. I'm told vs his

858
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: future as an assistant. He gave the Lakers an absolutely

859
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: hard note. Is that true? Did you hear that as well?

860
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 7: I haven't heard that, but I'm going to be surprised

861
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 7: that he would even go there anyway, because I think

862
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 7: Boston would make it worth hiss wow Tuesday. No, I

863
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 7: don't know if he's given a formal hard no I

864
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 7: know that they've talked, but I don't know if it

865
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 7: reached definitive conclusions. But regardless of that, if it ever

866
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 7: got to that point, I think the Celtics won't allow

867
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 7: him to leave. I mean, I don't mean that literally,

868
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 7: Sam Caseelkrich is what he wants, but as far as

869
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 7: making it worth his wold to stay, as far as

870
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 7: a promotion within that staff.

871
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 2: All right, So here's the second part of the conversation.

872
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: Mark It's time for some real talk. Sam Cassell has

873
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: fifteen years as an assistant coach. He's been part of

874
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: four NBA championship teams, three as a player, one as

875
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: an assistant coach. He's been an All Star, he's been

876
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 2: an All NBA player. Now he doesn't have a podcast

877
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: or anything, but you tell me why you to them?

878
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: Maybe that's it in this day and age. If I'm

879
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 2: the Lakers and I'm really serious about a head coach

880
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: or checks a hell of a lot of boxes. And

881
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: we can talk about Darvin Ham all day long. But

882
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: let's not forget he presided over a team that got

883
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 2: to the Western Conference finals. So let's just include that

884
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: as part of the dialogue. What am I missing as

885
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 2: to why the Lakers wouldn't seriously talk to or consider

886
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: Sam Cassell. Where did he fall short? Given the resume

887
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: I just gave you, he.

888
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 7: Hasn't falling short. I gotta strust to you on that one.

889
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 7: They've talked. I guess what I'm stressing. I didn't hear

890
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 7: that Sam Cassell gave a hard no, but I think

891
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 7: that it was pretty clear that Boston would do what

892
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 7: it takes to promote his position. I think that's already

893
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 7: going to say.

894
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: So.

895
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: You don't think if the Lakers made Sam Cassel an

896
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: offer somewhere between what they gave JJ Reddick and Danny Early,

897
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: do you think he turned it down to be loyal

898
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: to the Celtics.

899
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 7: No, But I think it's the devil's in the details.

900
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 7: But I think that Sam Cassell is probably feels like

901
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 7: he can be a little more selective because he's with

902
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 7: a good organization and there could be better positions open

903
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 7: right now. I think in JJ Reddick's case, he doesn't

904
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 7: necessarily have to take this position because he set himself

905
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 7: up to do a lot of good work in the

906
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 7: media space, in the broadcasting space. But I think when

907
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 7: you look at the other teams that he interviewed for,

908
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 7: you know, Charlotte. That doesn't really leave a lot to

909
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 7: be desiredired, And so I think the Lakers the brand

910
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 7: still stands out. You still have Lebron and even if

911
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 7: there's a lot of challenging things that he's going to inherit,

912
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 7: I don't think that it's going to be taken against

913
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 7: him that strongly because I think the mL will be like,

914
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 7: you know what, he was in an organization that you know,

915
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 7: didn't have a good roster and it's hard to really manage,

916
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 7: and the front office hasn't kept coaches head coaches that long,

917
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 7: so it's a mulligan, and if it's a success, it'll

918
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 7: be seen as, hey, the next example of a former

919
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 7: NBA player without experience having a lot of success. I

920
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 7: think in Sam Cassell's case, though he's already with a

921
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 7: good organization, he has relationships, he doesn't necessarily need that role.

922
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 7: But again, to your point, he may have turned them

923
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 7: down directly. I just hadn't heard that. But regardless, I

924
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 7: think Boston's making his interest that it's not worth to

925
00:49:58,640 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 7: jump three thousand.

926
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm fairly secure in the knowledge the Lakers never offered

927
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: him the head coaching position. So it's a conversation worth

928
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: having because he has a hell of a resume and

929
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: nothing against JJ Raddick. But this is why I do

930
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 2: this show to try to provoke thoughts. So Mark, hang tight.

931
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: He did a great article this week in sports Keta

932
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: sort of disavowing the notion that NBA executives would draft

933
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: Bronnie James with the hope that lebron would join them.

934
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 2: We need to dive into that. And oh, by the way,

935
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: there's a draft this week for crying out loud, We've

936
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: got into that as well. So hang tight, right there, Mark,

937
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: Mark Medina Medina Magic every Saturday night midnight on The

938
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show midnight Pacific. We've got to get into

939
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: this Bronnie James subject matter with Bronnie and the Lakers

940
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: and JJ Raddick and tie that into the NBA draft

941
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 2: and frankly, will Bronnie even be drafted? I'll give you

942
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: my thoughts on that coming up. I'm Bernie frattle Wire.

943
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 2: Come you live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio

944
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: Tireck dot Com studios. Keep it locked right here. You're

945
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Fradle Show on Fox Sports, right

946
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: all right? Back in the Bernie Fattle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

947
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 2: coming to you live from the tirec dot Com studios

948
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. Will take you up to three

949
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: and Pacific six am Eastern. We continue with Mark Medina.

950
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: We are on the second half. Now we have a

951
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: lot to get to. Mark, let me just come out

952
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: of the gate like thirty yards of garlic. Three weeks ago,

953
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: I mentioned that I was told by a pretty good

954
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: source that Monni Williams would be gone after one year.

955
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: I didn't I can't take credit for the prediction, but

956
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 2: my source was right. Two weeks ago, I was pretty

957
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: emphatic it was only a ten percent chance Danny Hurley

958
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: would take the job. I'm going to make another prediction

959
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 2: that Brownnie James will not be drafted. Wow, well, I don't.

960
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 7: See what you're ready to run. You're ready to get

961
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 7: the triple crown.

962
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 2: Here we'll see meetlof one said two out of three

963
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 2: ain't bad. But what I don't get Mark, By the way,

964
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: you wrote a very good piece for sports key to

965
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: this week that they know that teams might draft Bronnie

966
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: James with the hopes that lebron would join them. You

967
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: don't believe there's a lot of validity. So listen, they've

968
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 2: already got Lebron. He's not going anywhere with the Lakers.

969
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: You don't need to draft Bronnie bring him in as

970
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 2: a free agent.

971
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 7: Your thoughts, Yeah, Well, the broader point is what you

972
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 7: just mentioned that you know this idea that teams are

973
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 7: going to scheme to draft Browny in hopes that Lebron

974
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 7: James signs is a veteran minimum Rich Paul has told

975
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 7: people not to do that. But the ironic part is,

976
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 7: at least from some of the executives I talked to,

977
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 7: is that no one's thinking that. Like when I asked

978
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 7: if there's any ability to that theory, one scout started laughing, said, yeah,

979
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 7: Lebron was thirty years old, but that's not the case anymore,

980
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 7: and he obviously isn't going to take a significant pay cut.

981
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 7: But I think the broader point is about Broni and

982
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 7: you know what people make of him as a player,

983
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 7: and the people I talk to, yeah, there is a

984
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 7: project that he's either going to be in the second

985
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 7: round or he'll be in the G League. So there's

986
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 7: a very good chance that your prediction will come true

987
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 7: because he doesn't have a defined skill set. He's a

988
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 7: decent role player that didn't play a lot of minutes.

989
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 7: He was buried on the depth chart, so it's really

990
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 7: hard to know what the end game is going to be. Now.

991
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 7: In Bronnie's defense, I will say this, there was one

992
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 7: executive in particular that I talked to that was very

993
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 7: high on these specific attributes with Bronnie. The fact that

994
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 7: he overcame uh you know, the cardiac arrest and had

995
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 7: the mental fortitude to overcome that, uh you know, on

996
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 7: the court. That takes a lot of mental toughness, especially

997
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 7: at your you know, at his college age, to have

998
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 7: such a health scare like that. He felt like he

999
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 7: plays the right way, and he makes the basketball right

1000
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 7: the right makes the right basketball play. Helps that his father,

1001
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 7: Lebron has taught him a thing or two about the game,

1002
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 7: even though the skill level is completely different, and he

1003
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 7: feels like he can't have a long productive career as

1004
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 7: a role player. But in the short term, whether it's

1005
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 7: that executive or other executives I've talked to, there's no

1006
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 7: feeling whatsoever that he's going to be a game changer,

1007
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 7: and it is very likely that whether he gets selected

1008
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 7: in the second round or goes undrafted. That he's spending

1009
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 7: most if not all, of next season in the G League,

1010
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 7: and so I validate your points overall. But I think

1011
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 7: what will happen is this, The Lakers will draft him

1012
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 7: because they have the fifty fifth pick, and I think

1013
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 7: in their mind there's no harm in selecting them and

1014
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 7: then having him play for the G League team. But

1015
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 7: I think there's a clear difference between the Lakers picking

1016
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 7: Browny because they have a fifty fifth pick versus, oh,

1017
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 7: they're picking Browny to try to lebron or they're going

1018
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 7: to move up higher in the draft. They're not going

1019
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 7: to give up draft assets just to get Bronnie. They're

1020
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 7: just they're going to select Browny because it's convenient and

1021
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 7: there's no consequence to do it. I don't think they

1022
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 7: would do it if it was about playing him actual minutes,

1023
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 7: let alone having a roster spot on the actual team.

1024
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 7: So I think they draft him. They signed him to

1025
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 7: a two way, and he's spending most of his time

1026
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 7: with the G League team down the South, So.

1027
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: You covered a lot of good ground there, and I'm

1028
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 2: able to hold two thoughts concurrently. But draft capital is valuable.

1029
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: There's only fifty eight total picks in the draft this

1030
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: year because his sons and six ers both forfeited one

1031
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: of their selections, So either goes fifty fifth or not

1032
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: at all. But when you look at the talent in

1033
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 2: this draft from an international standpoint, and I see no

1034
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: scenario where Bronnie gets on the floor for anybody in

1035
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, twenty five and helps him win a

1036
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 2: meaningful game. And by the way, let me just switch

1037
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 2: gears ever so quickly and throw a curveball. Because the

1038
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: Lakers have a first round pick they draft seventeenth overall,

1039
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm hearing they may tap Johnny Furfey out of Kansas

1040
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 2: as that pick, and he's a six to seven guy

1041
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: with you can catch and shoot. I think he'd be

1042
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 2: a good asset. Have you heard that at all?

1043
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 7: Heard? I haven't heard specifically that name. I've heard that

1044
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 7: the Lakers are really weighing the philosophy on do they

1045
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,479
Speaker 7: use it for a player or do they package their

1046
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 7: three picks that they can trade on Draft night to

1047
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 7: you know, get a star player. And I think when

1048
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 7: you look at these past two years, the Lakers have

1049
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 7: made the conclusion that they're better off with Lebron James,

1050
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 7: Anthony Davis having a decent or strong supporting cast versus

1051
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 7: having a third star. But the Lakers being the Lakers,

1052
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 7: they're never a hoose having a third star. I think

1053
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 7: that they were just a little leery of getting that

1054
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 7: kind of player and then having to rely on veterans

1055
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 7: minimum contracts to fill out the rest of the roster.

1056
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 7: So with all that, I think, and this is just

1057
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 7: my thinking, I think the Lakers are more inclined to

1058
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 7: trade these first round picks because it will make more

1059
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 7: impact than developing a young player. And I think the

1060
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 7: reason they're doing that is Lebron James only has so

1061
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 7: many years left. As long as he's on that team

1062
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 7: and relatively healthy, the Lakers feel they still have a shot.

1063
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 7: It might be slim, the window might look shut to

1064
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 7: most of us, but in their mind, the window's still open.

1065
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 7: I's not a slight crack because Lebron's still on the team,

1066
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 7: so very well may happen what you've been told, But

1067
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 7: you know, I want to be surprised if they decide

1068
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 7: to put their chips in.

1069
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't be surprised either. We're talking Mark Mdina,

1070
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: Medina Magic every Saturday night at midnight Pacific on The

1071
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show. I am so good. I'm so glad

1072
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 2: Mark you went down that road. It opens the door

1073
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: for me to say this and has to have another

1074
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: roundtable discussion. I realize Lakers have some wiggle room to

1075
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: improve their roster. They have three first round picks. Okay,

1076
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: so let's wargame this. Who do you go get? Trey Young,

1077
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: Zach Lavine, Brandon Ingram, Jared Jimmy Butler. And even if

1078
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: you get one of those guys, does it really move

1079
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: the Lakers into serious contention? No, it doesn't. And it's

1080
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: the same fortune cookie wisdom that's going to kill the

1081
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: Lakers the next two years because they really believe they

1082
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: can win now when I don't think they're anywhere near

1083
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 2: leaping Dallas, Denver, OKC or Minnesota. You got the floor.

1084
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's all fair points. So when you

1085
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 7: look at those players in particular, I do a hard

1086
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 7: know on Zach Lavine. I mean, he's been injury prone

1087
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 7: and he doesn't play defense, so what's the point. I mean,

1088
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 7: he's a great defensive score. Trey Young, I think that

1089
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 7: he's improved in some of those areas. But as much

1090
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 7: as the Lakers would benefit, especially assuming D'Angel Russell ops

1091
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 7: out of his current contract, he has shown that he

1092
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 7: may live up to the big moments, but he can't

1093
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 7: help produce winning basketball on a consistent basis. I think

1094
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 7: the Lakers would be more inclined to get to Jonte

1095
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 7: Murray from Atlanta. But I think the problem is I

1096
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 7: don't think Atlanta wants to give up to Jonte, So

1097
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 7: that's going to be another challenge. Who is the other

1098
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 7: player that you mentioned, Brandon Ingram? It'll be quite ironic

1099
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 7: because he was part of the Anthony Davis trade. I

1100
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 7: can't think that the Pelicans would find that their picks

1101
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 7: and some of their supporting casts are worth pulling the

1102
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 7: trigger on Ingram.

1103
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: I know I'm in agreement with all that, and so

1104
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: that is maybe Jimmy Butler and DeMar De Rosen. They're

1105
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: both thirty five years old. You see, we're on one

1106
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: with it. You released the three, you released that draft cap.

1107
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 7: I think demarg Rosa would be good. Yeah, he's thirty

1108
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 7: five years old, but he's been a gamer, he's been

1109
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 7: mostly healthy, he plays the right way, he's a great teammate.

1110
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 7: I would do it for him. Jimmy Butler, I wont it.

1111
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 7: Love his competitiveness and everything about him, but he's just

1112
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 7: had a lot of injuries these last years. I think

1113
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 7: with Miami they wouldn't want to be trying to trade

1114
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 7: Jimmy Butler if it wasn't for the new CBA where

1115
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 7: he's eligible for an extension, even though he has two

1116
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 7: years left on his contract. I think from Miami's point

1117
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 7: of view, they just don't feel comfortable committing even more

1118
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 7: years when he's thirty four years old. He's had so

1119
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 7: many injuries, but they're perfectly fine with riding out the

1120
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 7: two years left on his current deal. But because they've

1121
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 7: declined that contract, that may have rubbed Jimmy the wrong way.

1122
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 7: And I think that they're also pragmatic that, hey, now

1123
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 7: is the time to try to get something of value

1124
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 7: for him because of that. But I don't think the

1125
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 7: Lakers would want to do that because of his injury history.

1126
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: Do you not agree though, that trying to acquire that

1127
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: third star, even if it is Demarto Rosen, completely restricts

1128
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: the Lakers' ability to build out the roster. It's just

1129
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: you look at the depth of the Celtics, what they

1130
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: did this is the bar. They're nowhere near that bar.

1131
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 7: Well, I think that is all true, But I think

1132
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 7: that we're dealing with apples and orange is with the

1133
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 7: Celtics and the Lakers right now, because the Lakers' core

1134
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 7: players are at the tail end of their career. I mean,

1135
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 7: at least Lebron, James Is and Anthony Davis. He's improved,

1136
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 7: he's technically in his prime, but you can't bank that

1137
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 7: he'll always be completely healthy. And I think with the Celtics, really,

1138
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 7: what they did this championship roster, this is all the

1139
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 7: product of them breaking down the previous championship era. You know,

1140
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 7: core early with Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierson, Ray Allen

1141
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 7: and it was about developing Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum.

1142
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 7: What the Lakers did, They already put those chips in,

1143
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 7: you know, after Kobe Bryant's Farewell's War with getting some

1144
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 7: of these good draft picks developing players, and they traded

1145
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 7: those picks to get Lebron and then to get Anthony Davis.

1146
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 7: So there's not a right or wrong way to do it.

1147
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 7: I mean, when you're looking at the Lakers, they won

1148
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 7: a title in twenty twenty, which I don't think they

1149
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 7: would have won if they just kept the young role players.

1150
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 7: But in the Celtics case, that was the best dice

1151
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 7: for them to throw because their situation was completely different.

1152
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 7: But I do understand your broader point that right now,

1153
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 7: what we're seeing with the Celtics, it was a beneficiary

1154
01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 7: of having good chemistry and continuity and roster up, and

1155
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 7: given what's going on in the NBA these last few years,

1156
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 7: that is the calling card to play. It's just with

1157
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 7: the Lakers, I don't think that they're comfortable, from both

1158
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 7: a business and a basketball standpoint, to just say let's

1159
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 7: blow it up and trade Lebron, because that could just

1160
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 7: create more problems and solve them and just delay, you know,

1161
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 7: the inevitable of rebuilding. And right now they could be rebuilding.

1162
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 7: But at least, you know, they're keeping people in the

1163
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 7: seats with Lebron, and they could be at least somewhat competitive.

1164
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 7: But you know, it's a lot of challenges to try

1165
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 7: to navigate.

1166
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 2: That mark great stuff. As I say every week, I'm

1167
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: already looking forward to next Saturday, because Wednesday we've got

1168
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: the draft, and of course a week from today or

1169
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 2: yesterday or today, depending on your perspective, Lebron will have

1170
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 2: decided whether he's going to opt out become a free agent.

1171
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 7: He's coming back, he's not going well, no.

1172
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 2: No, no, no, yeah, plea please please, I know, but it's

1173
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 2: going to be a cya deal. He ops out, he

1174
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 2: gets you three year deal. We don't how the games played. Yeah,

1175
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere. I don't want I don't want

1176
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: to imply that.

1177
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 7: Even leaves and we'll talk about next week.

1178
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 2: He's not. Dude, you got a better chance of led

1179
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: Zeppelin re recording the Gilgan's Allen theme song and selling

1180
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 2: a million copies in Lebron leave in La but but

1181
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 2: but he's going to manage his career and June twenty

1182
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: ninth is the deadline, and as a formality, he'll opt out,

1183
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 2: which will open the door for another three year deal.

1184
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 2: That's that's my take.

1185
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 7: Another Bernie Frida of prediction coming through.

1186
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 2: All right, my friend, great to have you. Thanks for

1187
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 2: sticking on for two seconds tonight. We can probably go

1188
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 2: on three, but but we need to get you your

1189
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 2: beauty rest of my man. Thank you, sir as Mark

1190
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 2: Mondina Medina magic. As you can see, he's very much

1191
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 2: got his finger on the pulse, and these are fun

1192
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: times in the NBA. I believe lots of lots of

1193
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 2: great storylines coming up. Well, the NBA is not the

1194
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 2: only lead. This's got storylines. The NFL's got him too.

1195
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 2: And hey, we're a couple of weeks from July. Not

1196
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 2: even that time to dive into some NFL stuff. There's

1197
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 2: been plenty of news in the offseason, not the least

1198
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 2: of which involved the Kansas City Chiefs. How the NFL

1199
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 2: plans to use them this year on TV as they

1200
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 2: march for the first ever as a potential first ever

1201
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 2: three pat team, as well as you could make a

1202
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: case that the Chiefs offseason was by far, by far

1203
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 2: the roughest in the NFL. But first to go back

1204
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 2: to our guy, the chef with the latest.

1205
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 8: Yes, Bernie, a full slate of Major League Baseball action.

1206
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,959
Speaker 8: On Saturday, we saw Showyo Tani hit his twenty third

1207
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 8: home run of the season that traveled and estimated four

1208
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 8: hundred and fifty nine feet as helps the Daughters beat

1209
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 8: the Angels seven to Tyler Glassenow seven innings, went on run,

1210
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 8: ten strikeouts on just seventy four pitches in the win,

1211
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 8: as La splitting the short two game Freeway series with

1212
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 8: the Angels. After losing an extra innings on a Friday,

1213
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 8: Yankees beat the Braves eight to three behind Aaron Judges

1214
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 8: twenty eighth home run of the season. Rockies and Nationals,

1215
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 8: it's Colorado getting this win off a pitchclock violation.

1216
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 9: Three balls, two strikes, tied at seven, the pitch.

1217
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 10: Time cold time violation on pitchclock violation on Finnegan, and

1218
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 10: that's the game.

1219
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 9: The Rockies on the pitcher, Finnegan taking too much time.

1220
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 9: That becomes ball four and for the first time in

1221
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 9: the new rules, the Rockies have a walk off on

1222
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 9: a pitch violation.

1223
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 8: Rockies Radio Network there with the cal Kyle Finnegan taking

1224
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 8: too long to throw the pitch, so he was called

1225
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 8: for the pitchclock violation, making it ball four with the

1226
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 8: bases loaded. That was what got the winning run in

1227
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 8: as it is, the Rockies winning it eight to seven.

1228
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 8: The Padres have won four straight games, including a six

1229
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 8: to four win against the Milwaukee Brewers on Saturday. Same

1230
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 8: for the Astros. They've made it four straight after beating

1231
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 8: the Orioles five to one. The Cleveland Guardians, also on

1232
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 8: a four game winning streak, a six to three win

1233
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 8: against Toronto on a Saturday included the Twins win at

1234
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 8: ten two against the Oakland Athletics, who are now a

1235
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 8: dreadful twenty nine and fifty on the season. Bailey over

1236
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 8: and only eighty nine pitches, tossing a complete game with

1237
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 8: ten strikeouts. The Phillies beat the Diamondbacks twelve to one,

1238
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 8: Cubs over the Mets eight one, White Sox beat the

1239
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 8: Tigers five to one. College World Series best of three

1240
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 8: as Texas A and M takes the opening game of

1241
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 8: that nine to five against top seeded Tennessee, and in

1242
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 8: the WNBA, Breonna Stewart thirty three points to help the

1243
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 8: New York Liberty beat the La Sparks ninety eight to

1244
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 8: eighty eight. In golf, it's Tom Kim ahead of the

1245
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 8: Travelers Championship by one stroke. Scottie Scheffler tied for second place,

1246
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 8: Cam Young shooting a fifty nine. Today he is tied

1247
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 8: a four eighth and In soccer, Mexico winning it's Copo

1248
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 8: America Opener one ZIL against Jamaica. Venezuela beats Ecuador two

1249
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 8: to one, and the United States gets their tournament started

1250
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 8: against Bolivia on Sunday at six o'clock Eastern and that

1251
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 8: can be seen over on Fox. And in the Euro Tournament,

1252
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 8: Belgium beats Romania two nail, Portugal shutting out Turkey three

1253
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 8: to nail, and the Czech Republic ties Georgia one one.

1254
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 2: Back to you, Bernie, all right, Jef WM up those

1255
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 2: vocal cords. We'll catch you in an hour. The future

1256
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 2: always has a way of arriving ahead of schedule. Believe

1257
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 2: it or not. We are seventy seven days away from

1258
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 2: the National Football League kicking off their two hundred and

1259
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 2: seventy two game regular season schedule. You've got the two

1260
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 2: time defending Super Bowl Chiefs playing perhaps a very big

1261
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 2: role among the various networks this year, and I'm here

1262
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 2: for it. They'll start out September fifth, that opening season

1263
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: game on Thursday against the Baltimore Ravens. And you know,

1264
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 2: that's kind of been the modus operandi. You begin the

1265
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 2: season of the home stadium of the defending Super Bowl

1266
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 2: champs and Baltimore will pay a Visit didn't work out

1267
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 2: so well for them in January. We'll see what happens

1268
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 2: in September. But that ain't all folks. The Chiefs are

1269
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 2: going to be a very significant presence this year in

1270
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: many games along the schedule. There's another ten days later,

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Speaker 2: there'll be a very high profile matchup between the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: and the Bengals. That'll be the very first late afternoon

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Speaker 2: game Sunday on CBS, which I've mentioned before that those

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01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 2: four pm games on Sunday are among the highest rated

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01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 2: of all matchups. And the Raiders will join the chief

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01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 2: for a Black Friday game the day after Thanksgiving. That

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01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: game will be shown on Amazon. Last year that had

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01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 2: great success. They'll have a better result. Last year was

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01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 2: a little disappointing because it was at Jets and Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: But when they made the schedule last year, they didn't

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01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 2: know Aaron Rodgers would be hurt Saturday. You know, as

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01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 2: we get into December, the NFL starts to play games

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Speaker 2: on Saturdays. The Chiefs will play the Texans on December

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01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 2: twenty first, that'll be part of the new NBC Sports schedule.

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01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 2: And then the Chiefs well, actually they won't play the

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01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 2: Steelers on Christmas Day. But the truth of the matter

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01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 2: is the Chiefs are going to have an additional on

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01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 2: top of that, four primetime appearances across Sunday Night Football

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01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 2: as well as Monday Night Football. And why well, it's

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01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: obvious the Chiefs are a you know this is they're

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01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 2: a going concern, man, and not just because of their

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01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 2: success on the field, not just because of that. Obviously,

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01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 2: you've still got the Travis Kelsey Taylor Swift saga, which

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01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 2: will continue to roll, right, And I think that as

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01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: long as the Chiefs are alive for the three p

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01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 2: that is a story that is going to continue to

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01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 2: have real legs. No, by the way, Fox Sports will

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01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 2: have the Super Bowl rematch between the Chiefs and the

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01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 2: forty nine ers on October twentieth. So if you like

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01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, they're all over the network. Well, the Chiefs

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01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 2: have also been all over the news. Why well, you

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01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 2: know why. This offseason was easily the roughest the Chiefs.

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01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 2: They endured an offseason easily the roughest of any team

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01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 2: in the National Football League. Will that carry over? I

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01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 2: mean Murphy's long. Yeah. Well, the Chiefs Andy Reid put

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01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 2: on a tuxedo last week and the players all brought

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01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 2: their plus ones and they had this really beautiful ceremony

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01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 2: so they could all get their really cool, way cool,

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01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 2: huge Fred flintstone like championship rings for winning Super Bowl

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01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: fifty eight. Well, each one of those rings had five

1311
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 2: and twenty nine diamonds and thirty eight rubles rubies, excuse me,

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01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 2: almost fifteen carrots at gemstones. This is like the ring

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01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 2: of all Rings, except there was one problem. And that's

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01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 2: only the beginning of the rough part the Chiefs had.

1315
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: I will share with you the litany of things that

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01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: have gone wrong for the Chiefs in the offseason, and

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01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:01,839
Speaker 2: it's not pretty, by the way. Shortly after the show tonight,

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Speaker 2: the podcast will be going up. If you missed any

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Speaker 2: of tonight' show, be sure to check out the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: I got Shay Mogan Gard will be putting it up.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to follow, rate and review the podcast. Again,

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Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast.

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Speaker 2: You'll see the show posted right after we get off

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Speaker 2: the air. Coming up, we continue the Chiefs and the

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Speaker 2: speed bumps they had in the off season. Wow, I'm

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Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle. We're company live from the La Vegas Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio tyre act dot Com studios. Keep it locked.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show. On Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, back in the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: coming to live after the tyreract dot Com studios here

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Speaker 2: in a Las Vegas take you up to three am Pacific,

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01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 2: six am easton. Remember about an hour and thirteen minutes

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01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: away from the Dance Sensation sweep of the nation. What

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01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: kind of brand new fool you followed by what my name?

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01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,839
Speaker 2: It's been quite the off season for the Kansas City Chiefs,

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01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 2: and that is really a loaded statement. Even last week

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01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 2: when you consider the fact that the Chiefs received their

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01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: championship rings that sort of commemorated back to back Super

1340
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 2: Bowl championships. Five hundred and twenty nine diamonds, thirty eight rubies,

1341
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 2: almost fifteen carrots of gemstones. You want to see this thing.

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01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:23,440
Speaker 2: It is spectacular, But even the ring ceremony had issues.

1343
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 2: See the interior of the ring, which tells the story

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01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 2: of the Chiefs four postseason victories over the Dolphins, Bills, Ravens,

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01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 2: and forty nine Ers. They list the seeding of those

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01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 2: teams in the playoffs, but unfortunately there's a typo. The

1347
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 2: ring said that the Dolphins AFC seed was number seven.

1348
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 2: They were actually the number six seed. Is it the

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01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 2: end of the world. Is it a huge mistake? Not really,

1350
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 2: but it's just it's a metaphor for what the Chiefs

1351
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: off season has been. The theme of the Chiefs offseason

1352
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: has been one goofy peccadillo after another some serious there

1353
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 2: is no two ways about it. And I hope it

1354
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 2: doesn't carry over into the regular season because last year,

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01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 2: what was the big story Aaron Rodgers four plays in

1356
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 2: We all got the rug he yanked from under our feet.

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01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 2: This year, whether you like the Chiefs or hate him again,

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01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 2: the opposite of love is not hated. Some difference. People

1359
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 2: have to have the same emotion invested to watch the

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01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 2: game and have that kind of you don't hate or love.

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01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 2: So the Chiefs, who had the best season last year,

1362
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 2: had the roughest offseason, and let's hope they get the

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01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 2: ship righted so that when the season starts we actually

1364
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 2: have a real conversation heading into the playoffs as to

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01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 2: whether or not the Chiefs can three pete in the

1366
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 2: Super Bowl era. It's never been done. And let's start

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01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 2: with the fact that the Chiefs lost some talent and

1368
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 2: free agency, but part of that's by terrible injuries and

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01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 2: look here's the bottom line game with Rashi Rice. There

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01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 2: was a car crash that allegedly Rashi Rice, who was

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01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 2: a terrific receiver in the playoffs, finally took responsibility for causing.

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Speaker 2: There was a hit and run reaction to the crash.

1373
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 2: It was caught on camera, and Rashi Rice is facing

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01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 2: eight charges and two civil lawsuits. And it's still the

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01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 2: unknown outcome of this incident revolving Rashi Rice and another

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01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 2: man at a bar. This man reportedly decided not to

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01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 2: proceed the charges, but the matter might not be up

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01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 2: to him at the If law enforcement decides they want

1379
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 2: to bring chargers, they still can't. And then you had

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01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: two offensive tackles. I can't pronounce this guy's name correctly,

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01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 2: but I'll try it. Chukubuka Godric for marijuana position and oh,

1382
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 2: by the way, Janya Morris another offensive tackle, both for

1383
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 2: marijuana position. So you got Rashi Rice and two offensive

1384
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: tackles running a follow the law. Then there was the

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01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 2: arrest Isaiah Bugs, a defensive lineman. Get this on two

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01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 2: charges of animal cruelty because apparently he didn't give the

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01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 2: dogs water for a week, or I guess they didn't

1388
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 2: feed them either. Then there was another arrest recently, and

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Speaker 2: this is again a very difficult situation. Isaiah Bugs. He's

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Speaker 2: a defensive tackle. He was arrested I think for domestic violence,

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Speaker 2: something along those lines, second degree domestic violence. And there's

1392
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 2: even a burglary. Are there some context of burglary in there? Now?

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01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,759
Speaker 2: He's you know, I think he's a he's a backup.

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01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 2: He's been with Seen five years and the Chiefs just

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01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 2: signed him in February, so he has more arrests, you know,

1396
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 2: than he has is I think he's played with the Chiefs.

1397
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 2: But look, it becomes death by a thousand cuts. You

1398
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 2: just this is not good. Isaiah Bugs. Two offensive linemen,

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01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: Wanya Morris and Chiku Bakuba Godrich. Then Rishie Weish Rice

1400
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 2: was a key player. They can't even get their rings right, okay.

1401
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 2: And then of course people lost their minds over Harrison.

1402
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 2: Butker just merely speaking his mind that that created some drama.

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01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 2: He would you know, there was a commencement speech that

1404
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 2: he delivered Benedictine College in May. Colin Kaepernick has gone

1405
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 2: on to say, well, as long as there areson Butcker's

1406
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 2: on a roster, I'll never watch an NFL game. Yeah,

1407
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 2: you'll show them, Colin Wow, bring them to their knees.

1408
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 2: I'm not taking sides on this one. When people make statements,

1409
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 2: you know, vote your conscience, do whatever you got to

1410
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 2: do to get through to day whatever. Crank's your tractor.

1411
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 2: But even grodri Getdel waiting and gave an opinion on

1412
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 2: the matter. So any way you slice it, the Chiefs

1413
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 2: basically pun intended two, partly due to their kicker. They've

1414
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 2: taken one kick to the nuns after another. I mean,

1415
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 2: these are some serious charges. Criminal charges issues in bars.

1416
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 2: We're hit and run accidents, animal cruelty, domestic violence, burglary.

1417
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 2: This is all one team. By the way, bj Thompson

1418
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 2: had a scary cardiac arrest episode during a special teams meeting,

1419
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 2: really man oh Man. And finally, even if Krashi Rice

1420
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 2: gets a situation straightened out, it's likely that the NFL

1421
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 2: will then investigate and he will face the suspension. He's

1422
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 2: got to meet with Roger Goodell eventually, legal determine what

1423
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,480
Speaker 2: they're going to do with Rice since he has apparently

1424
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 2: allegedly violated the league's personal conduct policy. And Rashia Rice

1425
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 2: was really one of the best stories last year for

1426
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 2: the Chiefs because he was only a rookie, but he

1427
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: really developed into a tremendous player who really contributed and

1428
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 2: was I think a key cog in helping the Chiefs

1429
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. So long short of it is,

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01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 2: Andy Reid is not the first time. That is first

1431
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 2: barbecue that he's presided over some stuff. But boy's got

1432
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 2: his handful this year, and I hope they get it

1433
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 2: shortened out because I think the Chiefs marching towards the

1434
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 2: third championship will be fun to watch, whether or not

1435
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 2: you like him or hate him. Game seven Monday Night,

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Speaker 2: Stanley Cup Finals, we discussed keep it locked to Bernie

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Speaker 2: fraddle Show Fox Sports Radio. Yep, that's right, you heard

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Speaker 2: the man. The Bernie Fraddles Show just keeps rolling right along.

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Speaker 2: night that'll take place in Miami, and depending on how

1446
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:01,719
Speaker 2: this goes, real history can be in a couple of ways.

1447
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 2: First of all, let me set this up. It goes

1448
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 2: back thirty one years to June in nineteen ninety three.

1449
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 2: I was actually in the process of relocating from Orange

1450
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 2: County to Michigan, and They're sitting in a Marriott Hotel

1451
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 2: and I'm watching the La Kings and the Montreal Canadians.

1452
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 2: It's Game two. The Kings had won Game one, it

1453
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 2: looked like they were on their way. They're winning Game two,

1454
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 2: and the Kings are on their way to winning their

1455
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 2: first ever Stanley Cup. Martin McSorley scores a goal and

1456
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,719
Speaker 2: Jacques de Maris, the erstwhile coach of the Red Wings

1457
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 2: who'd taken over for the Montreal Canadians, a savvy Vett

1458
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:41,719
Speaker 2: noticed that Martin mcsouley's stick was maybe a little too curved,

1459
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 2: so it was almost like the George Brett Pinetower game.

1460
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 2: They measured the stick and next thing you know, the

1461
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 2: goal was just allowed. The dynamic of the series changed completely.

1462
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 2: The Canadians won Game two, they went back to La.

1463
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 2: The Canadians I believe won the series in five. What's

1464
01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 2: the significance of that. That is the last time a

1465
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 2: Canadian team has hoisted the Stanley Cup. It has been

1466
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 2: thirty one years. No Winnipeg, no Vancouver, no Edmonton, no Toronto,

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01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 2: no Montreal, no Canadian team. That could change Monday night

1468
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 2: because the Edmonton Oilers have forced and historic Game seven

1469
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 2: in the Stanley Cup Final. Not just because they're looking

1470
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 2: to become the first Canadian team to win the Stanley

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01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 2: Cups as ninety three, but they've completed the comeback. As

1472
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 2: it were. On Friday night, the oil the Oilers beat

1473
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 2: the Florida Panthers five to one. What did that do?

1474
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 2: That even the series at three to three. Remember Florida

1475
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 2: won the first three games. Edmonton won the next three games.

1476
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 2: So now the series shifts back to the home team,

1477
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,759
Speaker 2: Florida for the winner take all Game seven on Monday

1478
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 2: or again, the Oilers will be just the second team

1479
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety three to be a Canadian Stanley Cup champion,

1480
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 2: but also this second team in NHL history to rebound

1481
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 2: from an three deficit to win the Stanley Cup. It

1482
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 2: never happens in the NBA, never happens in Major League Baseball,

1483
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 2: though you know, I get it.

1484
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 11: No.

1485
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 2: Four, the Red Sox came back from a three deficit

1486
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 2: to beat the Yankees. But that was in the championship series.

1487
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 2: We've seen teams come close. We've seen it in other

1488
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 2: NBA playoff, lower level playoffs, but not in the files.

1489
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 2: And you haven't seen it in the NHL since nineteen

1490
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 2: forty two. Back in nineteen forty two, you're for scoring

1491
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 2: at home. I hope you are. The Toronto Maple Leafs

1492
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 2: came back to beat the Detroit Red Wings after dropping

1493
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 2: after falling behind three zip. They did it, they completed

1494
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 2: It's been eighty two years. Now. Three years later, those

1495
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 2: two teams got into a rematch, and this time Toronto

1496
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 2: jumped out to a three to nothing lead. Detroit came

1497
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 2: back with three straight wins, but Toronto prevailed. They won

1498
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 2: Game seven, two to one. So it almost happened twice

1499
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 2: in three years. So now the Edmonton Oilers, they find

1500
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 2: themselves in a very advantageous position, as it were, to

1501
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 2: become the first team since the nineteen forty five Red

1502
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 2: Wings to erase a three to zero deficit in the

1503
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 2: Stanley Cup Final Monday night. They want to make even

1504
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 2: more history. And again I know I'm repeating myself, but

1505
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 2: a win will also make Edmonton the first Canadian team

1506
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 2: to win the NHL Championship since the ninety three Canadians.

1507
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 2: This offers a lot of hope to the Nation of

1508
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 2: Canada and to the all you know, the great organization

1509
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 2: that the Edmonton Oilers have been throughout history during the

1510
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 2: Wayne Gretzky era was of course, by the way, this

1511
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 2: final also marks the third straight playoff series where Edmonton

1512
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 2: has come back to win after behind. The Oilers were

1513
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 2: down three to two facing elimination against Vancouver, and in

1514
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: Round two they had a two win deficiting against the

1515
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 2: Dallas Stars. They flipped the switch. They won three straight

1516
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 2: games to advance. Frankly, this is an incredibly stunning show

1517
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 2: of resilience and it speaks to a real DNA of

1518
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 2: a team and a squad and the Edmonton Oilers. That

1519
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 2: doesn't really even begin to tell the story. I guarantee

1520
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 2: if people have forgotten by now that after twelve games

1521
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 2: in the NHL season going back to November, the Oilers

1522
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: were in last place. I believe they might have had

1523
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 2: the worst record in the NHL on November tenth, two wins,

1524
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 2: nine losses in one tie. Two days later, they fired

1525
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 2: their coach and they replaced him with Chris Noblock, who

1526
01:24:55,840 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 2: was taking over for their coach, Jay Woodcroft. So this

1527
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 2: has happened before. We sat with the Saint Louis Blues

1528
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 2: a few years ago. You fire a coach the first

1529
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 2: couple weeks of the season, next thing you know, you're

1530
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 2: in the Stanley Cup Finals. But you cannot tell this

1531
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 2: story at all without talking about the Oilers Captain Connor

1532
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 2: McDavid time flies, I said, as I said, you know,

1533
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,839
Speaker 2: the future always has a way of arriving ahead of schedule.

1534
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,719
Speaker 2: Connor McDavid, he's now in his ninth season in the NHL,

1535
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: twenty seven years old. He's been a three time League MVP.

1536
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 2: He's been a scoring machine throughout these playoffs goals and assists,

1537
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 2: and he had back to back four point games which

1538
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 2: really sparked Edmonton's comeback. They had an eight to one

1539
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 2: win on home ice in Game four and a five

1540
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 2: to three win in South Florida just this last Tuesday.

1541
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 2: Before by the end of Game five, andre Or Connor

1542
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 2: McDavid's up to thirty four assists and forty two points

1543
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 2: just in the playoffs this year. They've only played twenty

1544
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,759
Speaker 2: three playoff games. I know it's heresy to compare anybody

1545
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 2: to Wayne Gretzky, but if you've watched McDavid play as

1546
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 2: a magician on the ice with the things he does,

1547
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 2: he now holds the all time record for assists in

1548
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 2: a single playoff year after he passed up Wayne Gretzky

1549
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 2: and their old record of thirty one in game four.

1550
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 2: McDavid is now up to thirty four assists and he's

1551
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 2: got a game seven Monday. Conor McDavid is now fourth

1552
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 2: all time in playoff points, behind Gretzky forty seven points

1553
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty five, Mario Lemu forty four ninety one,

1554
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 2: Gretzky get forty three points in eighty eight. Well, if

1555
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 2: McDavid gets just one point, he'll tie Gretzky in eighty eight.

1556
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 2: If he gets three points, he passes Lemieu. And if

1557
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 2: he gets well and he could get five points. But

1558
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 2: if he got four, he'd tied Gretzky back in nineteen

1559
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 2: eighty five. If you looked at the game Friday night,

1560
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 2: here's what's really interesting. The rest of the Edmonton Oilers

1561
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: picked up and carried the torch leon, who's an absolute

1562
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 2: scoring machine. I saw that up close and personal in

1563
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three playoffs against the Las Vegas that

1564
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:10,679
Speaker 2: gets the Vegas Golden Knights. Here in Las Vegas, Leon

1565
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 2: drive Sidle I mean him and Warren Fogel, they got

1566
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 2: going and Adam Henrique. You put this group together with

1567
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys that you never heard of. Maybe

1568
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 2: Zach Hyman gets his sixteenth goal to playoffs, and all

1569
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 2: of a sudden, they've made Sergey Blebroski, maybe the greatest

1570
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 2: goalie in the ANHL this year, look very human. And

1571
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:39,759
Speaker 2: Rogers play sindeedmaton, including the streets surrounding, absolute pandemonium, absolute bedlam. Finally,

1572
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:44,600
Speaker 2: in the third period, Florida tried to make a push

1573
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 2: and they controlled the play, but it was not enough.

1574
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 2: So here's what's interesting, and this is why Edmonton truly

1575
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:56,560
Speaker 2: can do this on Monday night, even despite Connor McDavid

1576
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 2: and the statue's putting up what you're through the roof.

1577
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 2: A lot of the reason that Edmonton has at such

1578
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 2: playoff success this year because it's not just one guy.

1579
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 2: It's been solid team play. Their defense has been through

1580
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: the roof. Their defense has been absolutely outstanding, and their

1581
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 2: penalty kill has also been through the roof. Edmonton has

1582
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 2: frankly been frankly virtually unbeatable these last couple of games,

1583
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 2: and it's really shown, you know, I'm kind of gonna

1584
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 2: do this on the fly. I do want to bring

1585
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 2: in the crew ever so quickly, Shae. Have you followed

1586
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 2: this with the Edmonton Oilers? And it's okay if you haven't.

1587
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 2: I just want to kind of take the temperature of

1588
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 2: the room because people get upset when you don't talk

1589
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 2: hockey and the radio. You can't really talk hockey and

1590
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 2: the radio throughout the year if you want to keep

1591
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 2: your job, because not enough people care. But we have

1592
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 2: a historic game on Monday Night. Have you followed this

1593
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 2: at all?

1594
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: Shape, Yeah?

1595
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 12: Yeah, I Actually I'm not a fan of the Edmonton

1596
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 12: Oilers at all.

1597
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm a Kid Hits fan.

1598
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 12: So I was really hoping the Panthers would pull through

1599
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 12: in Game six, but that was it was just heartbreaking.

1600
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 12: The last couple of games have been heartbreaking for me

1601
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 12: because the Kings can never get past the Oilers.

1602
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,879
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, Edie exactly.

1603
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 12: So it's it's like, yeah, Eddie Garcia feels just like me,

1604
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 12: So it just gets to a point three years, three

1605
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 12: years in a row, years in a row, and they're

1606
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 12: just such a dirty team too.

1607
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 13: It's like, oh, like, it's been so upsetting seeing this

1608
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 13: and the fact that they have an opportunity to come

1609
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 13: back from a three to zero lead, which is history

1610
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 13: in the making.

1611
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 2: I hate it.

1612
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 1: I do not like it at all. I am not

1613
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 1: happy one bit.

1614
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 12: I watch every game just because I cannot believe this

1615
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,560
Speaker 12: is actually happening. I text my friends. I remember I

1616
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 12: was texting my friends like, oh, three to zero, like

1617
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 12: this is gonna be easy. At least they didn't win,

1618
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 12: and now it's just biting me in the behind. So

1619
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 12: I'm not no, I'm I'm not happy one bit.

1620
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,719
Speaker 2: I appreciate the strong opinion. Uh and and you're not wrong,

1621
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 2: I mean in terms of of of just Edmonton and

1622
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 2: their style of play. Look, here's the thing. Do you

1623
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 2: believe in momentum because right now, all the momentum seems

1624
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 2: to be on Edmonton side. Yes, it's a one game affair,

1625
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 2: Game seven, it's in Florida, and you think it happened,

1626
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 2: but all the momentum seems to be on Edmonton side.

1627
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 2: Does that matter to you?

1628
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 7: Oh?

1629
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 12: One hundred percent. Momentum is the biggest thing in the world.

1630
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 12: It's you can I played volleyball in high school and

1631
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 12: it's a set based game. You can win the first

1632
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 12: two sets, but if if you win that last if

1633
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 12: you don't win that last set, it's it's game like.

1634
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 12: It just completely changes the momentum. Everything changes. But the

1635
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 12: thing with this is is the Oilers have all the momentum.

1636
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 12: Right As a coach, what do you say to your team,

1637
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 12: like seriously, like, what do you think was going on

1638
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 12: in the locker room?

1639
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 1: Like does he go like, guys, you guys are just

1640
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 1: like what?

1641
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 12: Like I I genuinely don't know what the Panthers can

1642
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 12: do to flip it around?

1643
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,759
Speaker 1: Like as a coach, what do you do? As a player,

1644
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: what do you do?

1645
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:07,640
Speaker 12: It's it's so demoralizing and it's just hard and like,

1646
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:09,640
Speaker 12: I don't know as a coach, is you're going to

1647
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 12: get fired?

1648
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 1: I doubt it, but I.

1649
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. You have to go back and

1650
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 2: evaluate what did you do when you beat Tampa Bay

1651
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 2: and five? What did you do when you beat the

1652
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 2: Boston Bruins and six? And what did you do when

1653
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 2: you beat the Rangers in six as well. They were

1654
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 2: the President's Trophy team, so they earned their way there.

1655
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 2: I've found and all my ears are covering the Red

1656
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 2: Wings a lot of times, Shay. Special teams can decide

1657
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 2: what's going on. And this is where Ebington might have

1658
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 2: an edge. They've had sixty eight power plays they've had

1659
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 2: to defend. They've only given up four goals and sixty

1660
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 2: eight power plays. That's a ninety five percent success rate.

1661
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 2: That's the best in twenty five years. So that creates

1662
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 2: a lot of momentum when you're killing penalties like that.

1663
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 2: So I think it's special teams. And I also think

1664
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 2: Sergei Barbrovski's got to be that proverbial goalie. This stands

1665
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 2: on his head. That's all Dominic Kashik do with Detroit

1666
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 2: in two thousand and two, you know, so Mike Vernon

1667
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 2: do it in nineteen ninety eight. We've seen throughout the years.

1668
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 2: You saw probably Jonathan Quick in La. Were you in

1669
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 2: La ten years ago when the Kings were winning the

1670
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 2: Stanley Cup.

1671
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 1: I was in La. Yes, that was it, And.

1672
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 2: So I'm sure you remember Jonathan Quick and what he course,

1673
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 2: of course he's allegedly I mean, I'm just kind of

1674
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 2: grabbing in straws here. But the truth of the matter

1675
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 2: is this is, you know, Florida had a Game seven

1676
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty three playoffs last year. I remember

1677
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 2: I was in Birmingham, Alabama, and they were down three

1678
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 2: to one against the Boston Bruins and they got that

1679
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 2: overtime goal and then with that seconds to go, or

1680
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 2: they got a goal with seconds to go to end

1681
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 2: overtime and then knock Boston off. So they've got it

1682
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 2: in their DNA. The question is can they call upon it?

1683
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 7: Oh?

1684
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 12: I completely agree. And the one thing that's not making

1685
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 12: me super upset is is it's not that the Panthers

1686
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 12: are just like messing up completely. It's the Oilers are

1687
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 12: just out playing them. As you said with the statistics.

1688
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 12: It's the Oilers are just doing better in the last

1689
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 12: couple of games. And that that's the one thing that

1690
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 12: I'm like, all right, this is fine. Like the Panthers

1691
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 12: aren't just losing because they're messing up, or they're just

1692
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 12: not taking the right shots, or just small things like

1693
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 12: that they're messing up with substitutions. It's the fact that

1694
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 12: the Oilers are just playing better than them. It's it's

1695
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 12: they are out of nowhere too. It's something they were.

1696
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 2: Down three sip exactly. I don't know where they were

1697
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 2: down three zip legitimately down three zip.

1698
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 12: You know what's the craziest thing about their their story

1699
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 12: though They fired their coach.

1700
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah really early, Yeah, talked about that.

1701
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's I cannot believe.

1702
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 12: And the fact that he's able to turn around that

1703
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 12: quickly and then get back even like get his players still, Hey,

1704
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 12: we're down three to zero, it does not matter. We're

1705
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 12: staying in it. I'm here to keep it going. I

1706
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 12: think that is the only thing I like about the

1707
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 12: Oilers is the fact that it's they have that going.

1708
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 12: But other than that is a Kings fan, I hate

1709
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 12: the Oilers.

1710
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is highly improbable. I talked about

1711
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:57,680
Speaker 2: this a minute ago. They were two nine and one,

1712
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 2: and on November tenth, they fired their coach and they

1713
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:04,679
Speaker 2: replaced him with this Chris Knoblock, not to be confused

1714
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 2: with Chuck Knoblock. And the truth of the matter is

1715
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 2: is that we've seen this before. You remember what five

1716
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 2: years ago when the Saint Louis Blues wanted to Craig Berrubi,

1717
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,679
Speaker 2: didn't they fire their coach after a couple weeks into

1718
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 2: the season. But this squad's got a certain DNA. Having

1719
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 2: said all that, you throw everything out Monday Night, it's

1720
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 2: a game seven, winner, take all, and anything can happen.

1721
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 2: While I do agree Edmonton's got all the momentum and

1722
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:30,599
Speaker 2: they look to be the better team, and they've simply

1723
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 2: outplayed Florida in the last three games, it does come

1724
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 2: down to a game seven coming back. I want to

1725
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 2: bring in the chef, get his thoughts on this, Get

1726
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey's thoughts too, because look, the NHL is really

1727
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 2: sort of morphed into this regional league. It just does

1728
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 2: not have the national buzz that it should and could

1729
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 2: and would. People don't know the teams, they don't know

1730
01:34:56,240 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 2: the players, they don't understand the significance in the history.

1731
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 2: He's one of those games. It translates somewhat on TV,

1732
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 2: but nothing like being aaron person. So for all of

1733
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:09,759
Speaker 2: those reasons, you're rarely talk hockey, and I will always

1734
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 2: talk to the Stanley Cup Finals, particularly if there's a

1735
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 2: story angle and we have two of them Monday night.

1736
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 2: Should Edmonton prevail, be the first time in thirty one

1737
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 2: years that a team from Canada has won it, and

1738
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:23,799
Speaker 2: should Edmonton prevail, would be the first time since nineteen

1739
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 2: forty two that a team has come back from a

1740
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 2: three zip deficit. They're going to have to do it

1741
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 2: on Florida's Oh Mice. We'll get the chef at marks

1742
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 2: thoughts coming up on that as well. I'm Bernie Fraddle.

1743
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 2: We're comedy live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio

1744
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 2: Tyraq dot com studios. Keep it locked listening to the

1745
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. How are back

1746
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 2: on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio Company live

1747
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 2: from the Tirack dot com studios here in Las Vegas.

1748
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 2: Coming up after the Chef's performance bottom of the hour,

1749
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 2: We're going to dive into the significance of the game

1750
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 2: played Thursday night at Rickwood Field and give you some

1751
01:35:56,360 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 2: historical perspective. But let's continue with the crew. Chef. You know,

1752
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 2: we rarely talk hockey, but when you have a Game

1753
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 2: seven in the Stanley Cup Finals and you have a

1754
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 2: situation that involves two historical perspectives, do you have thoughts

1755
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 2: on this game in general?

1756
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm definitely intrigued because I think it was in

1757
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,719
Speaker 8: nineteen forty six the last time a Stanley Cup finals

1758
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 8: saw a team come from behind three nothing a.

1759
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 2: Treat forty two, okay, Ronnie over Detroit, Yeah, even longer

1760
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 2: ago than that.

1761
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 8: So for the historical significance of it, I am definitely interested.

1762
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 8: Although as a Kings fan, I have no love for

1763
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 8: the Edmonton Oilers. I've just hated the way they've played

1764
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 8: against the King, not only just beating him, but just

1765
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:41,919
Speaker 8: the way that they're antics on the ice, So just

1766
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 8: something I've never liked from them. So I've been hoping

1767
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 8: they would lose throughout these playoffs. But man, it would

1768
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 8: be nice to see history, though, isn't it. So I

1769
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 8: guess that that objective fan part of wanting to see

1770
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 8: something that just hasn't happened in my lifetime and in

1771
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:00,080
Speaker 8: the lifetimes of most of the people I know. So

1772
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:04,679
Speaker 8: I do. I do want to see history be made,

1773
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:06,639
Speaker 8: but man, I just wish it wasn't the Edmonton Oilers,

1774
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 8: I guess. I guess they're mad at us for stealing

1775
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 8: Gretzky from them all those years ago, so they had

1776
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 8: to beat us in the playoffs three straight times. But yeah,

1777
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 8: I'm definitely gonna be watching Monday Night as it's been

1778
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 8: a great series so far. So it's been a good

1779
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 8: hockey and it's been a very competitive, especially after the

1780
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 8: Oilers went down three to nothing. They've just been playing well.

1781
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:31,839
Speaker 8: So yeah, I'll be watching.

1782
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will too, and of course good recall Gretzky

1783
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 2: came to the Kings in eighty eight, Bruce Rindall one

1784
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 2: of the big signings, and I it was kind of

1785
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 2: shocked when Edmonton let him go, basically, and he played

1786
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 2: several more years and it was part of that King's

1787
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 2: team in ninety three that lost to Montreal. So you'd

1788
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 2: see history in two veins here in the sense of

1789
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 2: not only team coming back from down three zip hadn't

1790
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 2: happened since nineteen forty two, but also first team since

1791
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three to from Canada to win the Stanley Cup.

1792
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:07,599
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey, Year of Hockey Official, And I'm sure you've

1793
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 2: got some thoughts on this.

1794
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 11: I'm a big fan of hockey because we all agree

1795
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 11: that hockey is, you know, offense, defense, and like a second,

1796
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 11: you could be going down the ice, you know, on offense,

1797
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 11: and then you quickly have to change over the defense

1798
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 11: because you lose the puck. So when it comes to this,

1799
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 11: I'm liking it because yes I am a Hawks fan,

1800
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 11: but just the overall coming back you know, three you know,

1801
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 11: three down. I just think about when Dave Roberts was

1802
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 11: on Boston and they can't I know, it's baseball and

1803
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 11: they were down, you know.

1804
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 8: To Dston Yankees.

1805
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 11: Thing of coming back from something which was a momentous

1806
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 11: occasion for you know, the whole Boston thing. So just

1807
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 11: watching that aspect of having that you know, surrounded of

1808
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 11: being able to come back, and speaking from a coach.

1809
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 1: Perspective, which I'm not. You know, Shay Is he coached volleyball.

1810
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 11: When a coach has to go in and tell the team, look,

1811
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 11: everything is back to zero. Right now. It's it's game seven,

1812
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 11: so everything is zero zero. Try to clear your mind

1813
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 11: and just think if we just win this game, just

1814
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 11: worry about this game. Everything is back to zero. Just

1815
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 11: calm yourself and win this game. But the whole thing

1816
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 11: about you know, the Edmonton and the Panthers, it's just

1817
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 11: you know, it's it's going to be great. The excitement

1818
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:37,800
Speaker 11: is great. Hopefully there's not too many fights, but just

1819
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 11: the energy and just you know, watching each team have

1820
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 11: it to fight it out for that last game.

1821
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:44,919
Speaker 1: It's very exciting.

1822
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:48,680
Speaker 2: Of course, if you're either Florida Panthers, you're thinking, what

1823
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 2: do you got to do to win a championship? I

1824
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 2: thought they were I really thought they would beat the

1825
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 2: Golden Knights last year, but they didn't, and now they

1826
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 2: have a chance again this year.

1827
01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 11: Because every every team or every fan worries about their

1828
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 11: team and they really don't care about the other team.

1829
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 11: It's like, so what, I don't care that you might

1830
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 11: not win because tons of people don't care about the

1831
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 11: Cleveland Browns ever winning anything, or they don't care about

1832
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 11: the San Diego Charges every winning anything because of the

1833
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,759
Speaker 11: opposite team wants their team to win. So I don't

1834
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 11: care about you. And when it comes to sports and

1835
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 11: pulling for your team.

1836
01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:28,759
Speaker 2: That's that's true. All right, I'm gonna make my prediction.

1837
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 2: Let's go around the room. Who gets it done Monday night?

1838
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 2: Shay Florida or Edmonton.

1839
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 7: Oh.

1840
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 1: I can't even say it, Bernie, I can't even say it.

1841
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 2: Okay, no problem, I hear you.

1842
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 1: I can't even say. It hurts me so much.

1843
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Before we get to the chef

1844
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 2: and we get to Mark, I think Florida's gonna win.

1845
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 2: I think too good to be beaten four times in

1846
01:40:56,920 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 2: a row. They're at home, Sir Gey Brabowski is due

1847
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 2: for one big game, and I feel like Edmon, you

1848
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 2: know what happened, Edmonton got loose when the pressure is off.

1849
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 2: They had that eight goal game and then from there,

1850
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they've carried the play. But Florida's home.

1851
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 2: You got ser Gebarovsky, I do, I'm repeating myself. I

1852
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 2: think Paul Maurice gets his team ready and they score

1853
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 2: first and Florida gets it done. We'll see chef. Who

1854
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 2: wins Monday night, Florida Edmonton.

1855
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:29,639
Speaker 8: I'd say Edmonton just because I think they have less

1856
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 8: pressure on them. Florida they have all. They have, all

1857
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 8: the all the anxiety, all the pressure going into that

1858
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:38,800
Speaker 8: game because they don't want to be on the wrong

1859
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:42,640
Speaker 8: end of history. So I definitely see Edmonton being the

1860
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 8: loose team that they have been since they were down

1861
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:46,799
Speaker 8: three nothing. That's what I predict happening.

1862
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 2: Entirely possible, entirely possible. All right, Mark, you got the

1863
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:52,559
Speaker 2: last word? Who wins at Edmonton?

1864
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 11: Or Let's see the Panthers are at home, so they

1865
01:41:57,080 --> 01:42:00,600
Speaker 11: have home cooking, they've had their home bed and the

1866
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 11: pressure is on the Panthers because they've lost so many

1867
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:10,720
Speaker 11: and their their mentality that they might be thinking that,

1868
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 11: you know, it's gone bad this far. I think Edmonton's

1869
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 11: gonna come across and win.

1870
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 2: All right, we shall see. It will be decided on

1871
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:25,720
Speaker 2: the ice on Monday night, a very momentous occasion. Thursday night,

1872
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 2: we must break down its significance. We must certainly talk

1873
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:33,599
Speaker 2: about why this was such an important game and drop

1874
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:36,559
Speaker 2: some historical perspective. But first let's go to our guy

1875
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:38,240
Speaker 2: chef for his performance.

1876
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 14: Well, cafeteria wants to sing a song about this thrilling

1877
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 14: struggle of humanity.

1878
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 1: Remember, what do you have to say about it?

1879
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 2: There is another performance by the chef.

1880
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 8: I love performing for all our listeners. It brings joy

1881
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 8: to me every single Saturday night getting to do that.

1882
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 8: He Major League Baseball we had plenty of games on Saturday.

1883
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 8: As Soyo Tani launching one deep four and fifty nineteen,

1884
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:23,639
Speaker 8: I'm not sure if they cleared that right field pavilion

1885
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 8: or not. I saw people kind of jumping up trying

1886
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:27,559
Speaker 8: to get it, but I didn't see where it landed.

1887
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:29,679
Speaker 8: It seemed like to carry it on forever. But Showy

1888
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:33,000
Speaker 8: hasn't come down yet. I don't think so. And man,

1889
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 8: he continues to play well, looking like the National League

1890
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 8: MVP as he has twenty three home runs now as

1891
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:41,759
Speaker 8: the Dodgers beat the Angels seven to two. Tyler Glass

1892
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 8: now looking like everything the Dodgers hoped for as he

1893
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 8: won seven innings won and run allowed, ten strikeouts seventy

1894
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 8: four pitches thrown. The Yankees beat the Braves eight to three.

1895
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:54,839
Speaker 8: Aaron Judge with his twenty eighth home run of the season.

1896
01:43:55,400 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 8: Rockies and Nationals Kyle Ferguson with the bases loaded in

1897
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 8: the bottom of the ninth having a pitchclock violation. Yeah,

1898
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:06,919
Speaker 8: he took too long to throw it, so the Rockies

1899
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 8: up that bat with a three ball count, getting ball

1900
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 8: four and that forced the winning run in and Colorado

1901
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 8: wins it eight to seven. The Padres on a four

1902
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 8: game winning streak they beat the Brewers six to four.

1903
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 8: The Astros also on a four game winning streak as

1904
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:22,600
Speaker 8: they take down the Baltimore Oils five to one. The

1905
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 8: Guardians also have made it four straight wins with their

1906
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 8: six to three victory against the Toronto Blue Jays twins

1907
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 8: over the A's ten to two, and the Philadelphia Phillies

1908
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,680
Speaker 8: beat the Arizona Diamondbacks twelve to one, Cubs over the

1909
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 8: Mets eight one, and the White Sox beat the Tigers

1910
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 8: a five to one. College World Series first game goes

1911
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 8: to Texas A and M as they take down top

1912
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 8: seeded Tennessee nine to five. WNBA Breonna Stewart with thirty

1913
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 8: three points, the New York Liberty over the Los Angeles

1914
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 8: Sparks ninety eight eighty eight. New York now fourteen and

1915
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 8: three on the season. Golf, it's Tom Kim in front

1916
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 8: of the Travelers Championship by one stroke. Scottie Scheffler tied

1917
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:02,680
Speaker 8: for second place, Cam Young shooting a fifty nine, he

1918
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 8: is tied for eighth. And in soccer, Mexico winning their

1919
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:11,719
Speaker 8: Copa America opener one nil against Jamaica. Venezuela beats Ecuador

1920
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:14,640
Speaker 8: two to one, and as for the United States, their

1921
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:17,640
Speaker 8: first game of that tournament will take place Saturday or

1922
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 8: excuse me Sunday evening at six o'clock Eastern and that

1923
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 8: can be seen over on Fox and asked for the

1924
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 8: ure tournament on Saudi It's Belgium over Romania two nail

1925
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 8: Portugal blanking Turkey, three nail in the Czech Republic tying

1926
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 8: Georgia one one.

1927
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bernie, all right, Jef. So there was a

1928
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 2: monumental game played Thursday night at Rickwood Field in Birmingham, Alabama,

1929
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 2: and in April twenty twenty three, on my way to Tuscaloosa,

1930
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:50,640
Speaker 2: I made a point to drive by that field in Birmingham.

1931
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 2: Rickwood Field a certainly a legendary stadium that was built

1932
01:45:55,439 --> 01:46:00,240
Speaker 2: in nineteen ten before I before I dive into what

1933
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 2: I want to talk about here, did you watch the game?

1934
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 2: Do we able to see the game Thursday night? Chef?

1935
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 2: Are you there? Kevin?

1936
01:46:10,120 --> 01:46:11,800
Speaker 8: I do not see it. I did not see it,

1937
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 8: but I'd see the highlights of it. Okay, So you

1938
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:16,679
Speaker 8: followed it very much, Shaye?

1939
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 2: How about you?

1940
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 12: I did watch it. It was terrific. I loved what

1941
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 12: they did with the broadcast. I think it was really cool.

1942
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 12: When it went to black and white, it was perfect. Honestly,

1943
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 12: there wasn't a lot of I thought there would be

1944
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:30,679
Speaker 12: moments where I was like, oh, what are they doing?

1945
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 1: But there really wasn't.

1946
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 12: There wasn't a single moment where I was like not

1947
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:35,759
Speaker 12: having a smile on my face.

1948
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 1: It just it seemed very cool.

1949
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 12: But at the same time, it brings you back to

1950
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 12: a moment in our history that was really just so

1951
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 12: different and growing up in Los Angeles, like I'm not

1952
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 12: really accustomed or like at all, Like I've never really

1953
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 12: grown up around that, just because it's a melting pot

1954
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 12: around me, especially because I'm only twenty four years old.

1955
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 12: So it was definitely crazy to hear some of the things.

1956
01:46:58,240 --> 01:46:59,759
Speaker 12: And I'm sure you'll get into that more.

1957
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 2: Yes, obviously. And by the way, I'll just say this

1958
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:06,759
Speaker 2: now at the end of the show before we sign off,

1959
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:11,760
Speaker 2: with about five minutes to go, everybody heard Reggie Jackson's

1960
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 2: commentary before the game. Very raw, very candid, very honest,

1961
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 2: very truthful, and it underscores the importance of why this

1962
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 2: event was so significant and what these men had to

1963
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:32,640
Speaker 2: endure before nineteen forty seven before having an opportunity and

1964
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 2: even afterward. I'm going to tell you a story that

1965
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:39,720
Speaker 2: Hank Aaron told me in nineteen ninety one at the

1966
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:44,919
Speaker 2: twelfth Annual Sports Collector's National Sports Collector's Convention at Anaheim.

1967
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 2: I was part of the executive committee and handled the

1968
01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 2: green room, and Hank was just an elegant man. But

1969
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:56,639
Speaker 2: you want to hear an indignity, don't miss this story.

1970
01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:58,800
Speaker 2: It's coming up a little over an hour. I'll close

1971
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:01,920
Speaker 2: the show with it. After hearing Reggie Jackson's story. This

1972
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:04,639
Speaker 2: will sort of put things in perspective as well as

1973
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 2: to what they endured. So, Shay, you saw the game,

1974
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:11,200
Speaker 2: good comments. Mark, what about you? Did you get a

1975
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 2: chance to see it?

1976
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 11: I did not see the game, but my parents were

1977
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 11: born in Birmingham, Alabama, so I've heard tons of stories

1978
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 11: about rick Wood and playing baseball there and the various

1979
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:27,600
Speaker 11: things that went on, So I know some of the

1980
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:29,600
Speaker 11: history because of my dad and my parents.

1981
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've fortunately, you know, I've never got to see

1982
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 2: a game there, obviously, but I remember the first time

1983
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 2: I went to Tiger Stadium in Detroit. I looked at

1984
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 2: the batter's box and you know, I'm literally thirty feet away,

1985
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 2: and wow, Ty Cobbs stood in that box. That's the significance.

1986
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,879
Speaker 2: First time I went to Yankee Stadium. You know, Wow,

1987
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:52,240
Speaker 2: Babe Ruth stood in that box, Sam with Wrigley. So

1988
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:53,920
Speaker 2: if you went to rick would you see yourself? Wow,

1989
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 2: Josh Gibson stood in that box. Satchel Page stood on

1990
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 2: that mound, Jackie Robinson stood in that box, and not

1991
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:05,559
Speaker 2: just in Babe Ruth. All kinds of players, all right.

1992
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 2: This was a significant, significant event. It paid tribute to

1993
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,879
Speaker 2: the Negro Leagues, the importance of the Negro League's importance

1994
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:20,799
Speaker 2: to baseball's history, their growth ending segregation in Major League Baseball.

1995
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 2: And it even got started a couple of days before

1996
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 2: when Willie Mays was he was all set to be

1997
01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 2: honored individually on Thursday night. And Willie Mays is also

1998
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 2: from Alabama. And Willie Mays also played a full season

1999
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:34,800
Speaker 2: at Rickwood Field with the Black Bearons when he was

2000
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 2: only seventeen years old before he jumped to the Major

2001
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:40,080
Speaker 2: leagues and spent his career with the Giants. And right

2002
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 2: before the game, forty eight hours before the game, he

2003
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 2: usued a statement said quote, I wish I could come

2004
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 2: out to Rickwood Field this week to be with you

2005
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:50,400
Speaker 2: all and enjoy that field with my friends. Rickwood's been

2006
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 2: part of my life all my life, since I was

2007
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 2: a kid. It was just around the corner from there

2008
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 2: where I went to church, went to high school, et cetera.

2009
01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 2: Et cetera. The first big thing I ever put in

2010
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 2: my mind was to play at rickwood Field. It wasn't

2011
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:03,639
Speaker 2: a dream, it was something I was going to do.

2012
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 2: And he went out and on. It was everything he

2013
01:50:05,479 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 2: ever wanted. And so Willie Mays was unable to make

2014
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 2: the trip and he ended up passing before the game,

2015
01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:16,720
Speaker 2: and there was a pregame ceremony that paid tribute to

2016
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 2: Willie Mays. But beyond the game, beyond the history and

2017
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 2: why the legacy is so important, is Rickwood Field itself.

2018
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:30,760
Speaker 2: It's a special place. Yes, it opened in nineteen ten,

2019
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:34,720
Speaker 2: and I don't think there's any stadium honestly ever been

2020
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 2: built that holes as much influence and as much perspective

2021
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 2: in baseball history as Rickwood Field because it was the

2022
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 2: home not only the Birmingham Barons, but the Birmingham Black

2023
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:46,240
Speaker 2: Bearons of the Negro Leagues. They played on the same field,

2024
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:49,599
Speaker 2: and they played there for thirty six years, and even

2025
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 2: when the Negro Leagues disbanded nineteen forty eight after Major

2026
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:57,679
Speaker 2: League Baseball integrated black players, rickwood Field was basically a

2027
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:01,160
Speaker 2: big time fixture in Birmingham and it's a part of

2028
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 2: the it's officially registered it's part of the National Registry

2029
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 2: of Historic Places. And you heard me mention a minute ago,

2030
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:13,679
Speaker 2: not just Willie Mays, but Jackie Robertson, Satchel Paige, Josh Gipson,

2031
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 2: Ernie Banks, Hank Aaron Well, they all played on that field.

2032
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:20,679
Speaker 2: Those are some of the heaviest hitters, not just certainly

2033
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:23,559
Speaker 2: from the eager leagues, but also from Major League Baseball.

2034
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 2: And I think again, Willie Mays, it could be argued,

2035
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:32,639
Speaker 2: is he the greatest player ever? Not sure, Maybe he's

2036
01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 2: certainly in the conversation, but when you look at what

2037
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 2: Willy Mays did in his career, and you know, I

2038
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 2: don't think anybody combined power, speed and defense the way

2039
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:46,280
Speaker 2: he did. Now Babyyuth pitched, but he wasn't a defender

2040
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 2: defensive player. Willie Mays also lost two years in the military,

2041
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:54,120
Speaker 2: and he played in Candlestick Park, which was a terrible

2042
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 2: hitters park. Terrible who's freezing up there? The wind was

2043
01:51:57,439 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 2: always swirling and blowing around, terrible hitters. I remember in

2044
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 2: the eighty four All Star Game, Reggie Jackson was in

2045
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 2: right field. Look gle over Bob Brenley, a catcher for

2046
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 2: the Giants in the bullpen he says, I really admire you, Bob.

2047
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 2: He goes. Why, he says, because you got to play

2048
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:14,639
Speaker 2: in this mofo every night. Terrible Maz hit six hundred

2049
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 2: and sixty home runs. I think it could be argued that, certainly,

2050
01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 2: if Mays hadn't had to play in Candlestick Park, he'd

2051
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:22,680
Speaker 2: hit well over seven hundred home runs, And if he

2052
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 2: hadn't missed two years to the military, he might have

2053
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 2: hit eight home runs. Finally, the greatest catch of all

2054
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:31,600
Speaker 2: time in Major League Baseball is widely considered to be

2055
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 2: one that took place seventy years ago, Game one of

2056
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 2: the nineteen fifty four World Series Cleveland and the New

2057
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:38,960
Speaker 2: York Giants. It was in the eighth inning of Game one.

2058
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 2: Vic Wurtz comes to bat, hits a ball about four

2059
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 2: und and sixty feet. The game was tied two to two,

2060
01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 2: and May's went back, back, back, back back, and on

2061
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 2: a dead sprint, hauled in the ball over his shoulder

2062
01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 2: like a wide receiver. They was They're estimating that the

2063
01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 2: ball was fourner and sixty feet from home plate, and

2064
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 2: it is an out, And you watch Mays chase that

2065
01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 2: ball down and catch it and then turn and swirl

2066
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:10,719
Speaker 2: and throw the ball back into the infield and basically

2067
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 2: one fell swoop. That's a highlight that people have seen

2068
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:18,360
Speaker 2: over and over and over again, and you never you

2069
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 2: never get tired of it, never get tired of it.

2070
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 2: So Rickwood Field is isy is a venue of which

2071
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 2: I can tell you just driving by it. Really I

2072
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 2: felt it. There was a tangible, visceral feel coming up.

2073
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 2: I want to give I want to give one more

2074
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 2: homage to Willie Mays because it wasn't just the catch.

2075
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 2: There were so many things he did above and beyond

2076
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 2: just the catch that transcended baseball during his tenure in

2077
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball from nineteen fifty one to nineteen seventy three.

2078
01:53:55,400 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 2: It's almost indescribable, almost indescribable, and the numbers back it up.

2079
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 2: I've got plenty of receipts. You're gonna want to hear this.

2080
01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Frida or Company Line from Las Vegas, Fox

2081
01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:08,040
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Tirack dot Com Studios. Keep it locked right here.

2082
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:10,519
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2083
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:15,400
Speaker 2: All right back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

2084
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:18,479
Speaker 2: coming to you live from the Tirac dot com Studios

2085
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:22,599
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. Yep, you guessed it, coming up

2086
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:25,599
Speaker 2: top of the hour in just ten minutes to dance

2087
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 2: Sensation sweep in the nation. What kind of brand new

2088
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 2: fool you followed by? What my name? All right? So

2089
01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 2: there was a lot of discussion this week. Is Willie

2090
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:41,640
Speaker 2: Mays the god for me? I'll just say this, It

2091
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:44,680
Speaker 2: always has been and always will be. Babe Ruth. Here's

2092
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:47,640
Speaker 2: a guy who had one hundred career victories on the mound.

2093
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 2: They said he was a good enough picture that if

2094
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 2: you never hit a single home run, he would have

2095
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:54,000
Speaker 2: been good enough to be in a Hall of Fame.

2096
01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 2: But you saw what he did, seven hundred and fourteen

2097
01:54:56,040 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 2: home runs, hit sixty home runs in nineteen twent twenty seven.

2098
01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 2: That was at a time when entire teams weren't hitting sixty.

2099
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 2: You know. One year, I think Ruth led the league

2100
01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:07,959
Speaker 2: in horruns with twenty seven. Some teams had like thirteen.

2101
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 2: And Ruth did other crazy things too. I think he

2102
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 2: stole home like eighteen times. So look, let's it's like

2103
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:17,000
Speaker 2: arguing about your favorite noodle in to play the spaghetti.

2104
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:19,400
Speaker 2: And of course I think Bill Russell, the Great Bill

2105
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 2: Russell once said it best, don't compare eras, don't compare ghosts.

2106
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:28,840
Speaker 2: But let's do this. Let's at least acknowledge that it's

2107
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 2: reasonable that Willie Mays is very much in this conversation.

2108
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:37,120
Speaker 2: The numbers do not lie. This is a guy who,

2109
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 2: in addition to making that great catch that you'll see

2110
01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 2: in highlight reels for the next fifty years, did crazy things,

2111
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Speaker 2: you know, offensively. There were various points in his career

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Speaker 2: that he led the Major leagues in batting average, on

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01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 2: base percentage, slugging percentage, stolen bases. He won a dozen

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Speaker 2: Golden Gloves. And by the way, people might ask, well,

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01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 2: wait a minute, why did he only win twelve? Because

2116
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 2: they didn't start passing him out till nineteen fifty seven.

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Speaker 2: That was Willie May's seventh year in the major leagues.

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Speaker 2: That's why he didn't start winning gold gloves. Okay, By

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Speaker 2: the way, he won it twelve seasons in a row.

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Speaker 2: After it was implemented, Mays hit six hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: home runs, which was third all time. When he retired,

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Speaker 2: and same as Ted Williams, he left to fight World

2123
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 2: War Two, and that obviously took cut into his production.

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01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:39,800
Speaker 2: Mays also had to wait for baseball to integrate. He

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Speaker 2: spent nineteen forty eight with the Black Barons, one year

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Speaker 2: after Jackie Robinson broke the Major League's color barrier, and

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01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 2: then he missed two full seasons in the military to

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Speaker 2: serve in the Korean War. When Mace got to Candlestick

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01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:53,960
Speaker 2: part which is the prime of his career, which would

2130
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 2: be brutal for a power hitter because if anybody listening knows,

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01:56:56,880 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 2: it was a terrible place for offense. He hit fifty

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01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:03,160
Speaker 2: two home runs there. He had a league leading on

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01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:06,200
Speaker 2: base percentage of three ninety eight. He had one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty. I'll tell you it rather than just give

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Speaker 2: number after number. It's ridiculous to understand when you consider

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Speaker 2: what a phenomenal defensive player he was and a great

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Speaker 2: base runner he was. You could spend all day on

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Speaker 2: a calculator trying to figure out how many home runs

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01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:25,960
Speaker 2: Mays might have hit if not for those factors. Korean

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01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 2: warr delayed getting into the you know, the color barreer,

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01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:33,800
Speaker 2: and of course let's not forget you know he played

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01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:37,600
Speaker 2: in Candlestick Park. I think six hundred and sixty home runs.

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01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 2: You know he would have hit seven hundred. I don't

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01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 2: know anybody that doesn't think that. Okay, so seven hundred

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01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:45,960
Speaker 2: home runs maybe the catch the gold gloves or career

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01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:48,880
Speaker 2: that stretch from the Negro leagues to divisional play, played

2147
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:52,000
Speaker 2: in the polo grounds, played in stadiums with AstroTurf, he

2148
01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:57,280
Speaker 2: was there. Mays will always get props. It was interesting

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01:57:57,320 --> 01:58:00,160
Speaker 2: that he would pass the day before they played the

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01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 2: game on in Rickwood Field. But we'll never know what

2151
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:07,280
Speaker 2: May's exit velocity was or any of that kind of stuff.

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01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:10,560
Speaker 2: But it didn't matter because he made things look extraordinary

2153
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:12,400
Speaker 2: when he played. You didn't need to stop watch to

2154
01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 2: know that. Coming up brand new fool of what my name?

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked with the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Yup,

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Speaker 2: that's right, you heard the man. The Bernie Frattles Show

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Speaker 2: keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Frattle. We

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Speaker 2: are comedy live from the tyrat dot com studios here

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Speaker 2: we've come to that juncture on the show every Saturday night,

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01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 2: Sunday morning, two am Pacific, Fabiam Eastern. You know, we

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Speaker 2: pay attention here. As Yogi Berra once said, you can

2166
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 2: observe a lot by watching, and we do. From Seed

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01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:57,040
Speaker 2: to Oily Sea and around the globe. Well, we come

2168
01:58:57,080 --> 01:58:59,720
Speaker 2: to realize that people do things. They do things that

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01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:02,640
Speaker 2: cause you to scratch your head, to do things that

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01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:07,240
Speaker 2: cause you to raise your eyebrow. And obviously sometimes these

2171
01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:12,080
Speaker 2: things are you know, not serious. They're innocuous, they're crazy, silly, stupid.

2172
01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 2: Other times they're far more serious, nefarious, and they can

2173
01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 2: even land you in jail. But anyway you slice it,

2174
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:23,200
Speaker 2: anyway you observe it. Anyway you describe these events that

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01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:27,200
Speaker 2: people engage in, will they always leave us scratching our

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01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:30,440
Speaker 2: head and asking ourselves what kind of brand new fool

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Speaker 2: of you?

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01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:39,400
Speaker 3: So, what kind of brand new fool are you?

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01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:43,360
Speaker 2: This one has a lot of layers, so we will

2180
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:47,120
Speaker 2: lay it out like a subway sandwich. Yes, we take

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01:59:47,160 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 2: you to Las Crusis, New Mexico, and it actually involves

2182
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:57,120
Speaker 2: a subway store. Imagine that a subway store was actually

2183
01:59:57,280 --> 02:00:05,960
Speaker 2: robbed a subway sandwich store. Hmmm, Well, let's break this down. Apparently,

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02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:11,040
Speaker 2: a couple of folks came in wearing masks. One was

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Speaker 2: a woman, entered the store about seven o'clock at night,

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02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:18,640
Speaker 2: jumped the counter, started diverbly, and physically threatened employers. The

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Speaker 2: woman also ordered one of the employees to get rid

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Speaker 2: of the customer at the drive through window. So while

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02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:27,080
Speaker 2: the suspects both took the employees to the back of

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02:00:27,120 --> 02:00:31,200
Speaker 2: the store, one other customer escaped by running to her vehicle,

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02:00:31,800 --> 02:00:35,560
Speaker 2: and they called the police. At that point, things started

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02:00:35,560 --> 02:00:37,960
Speaker 2: to get weird because one of the employees said, wait

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02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:42,840
Speaker 2: a minute, we think we recognized the voice of one

2194
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:45,360
Speaker 2: of the intruders who came to the store with masks.

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02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:48,520
Speaker 2: We think that we think that's the voice of Lorena,

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Speaker 2: one of our coworkers. Well, when the police arrived and

2197
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:56,080
Speaker 2: the investigated the robbery, well, an officer was flagged down

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02:00:56,160 --> 02:00:59,760
Speaker 2: by someone who saw a white car parks especially in

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02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:03,640
Speaker 2: the suspiciously in the parking lot. And when officers located

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Speaker 2: and stepped in well, they found perhaps this Lorena and

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Speaker 2: her companion in the car leaving Well. Lorena admitted that

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Speaker 2: she told police she was involved in the robbery. Why

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Speaker 2: would she rob a store that she worked at, a

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02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:25,720
Speaker 2: subway store that she worked at. What would be the

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02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:31,040
Speaker 2: reason you would possibly do that? Her reason, she wanted

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Speaker 2: to teach your fellow employees a lesson that things could

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Speaker 2: happen if you weren't careful.

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02:01:36,240 --> 02:01:37,680
Speaker 8: You could not be serious.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's why we call this what kind of

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Speaker 2: brandon fool you? Interestingly enough, she was booked into the

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Speaker 2: account or some county detention center on one count of

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02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:52,760
Speaker 2: robbery and they're being held without bond. Pretty serious lesson.

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Speaker 2: I wonder who really learned the lesson? I knew we

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02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:57,520
Speaker 2: had a weird one here when someone's robbing the subway,

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02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:02,400
Speaker 2: just saying, I don't know, how's your foot long? On

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02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:07,800
Speaker 2: that note, Lorena of Las Cruces, New Mexico, what kind

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Speaker 2: of brand new fool you? All right, chef, you're up next?

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Speaker 8: All right? So we go back to our favorite state

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02:02:15,640 --> 02:02:17,120
Speaker 8: for this, Florida fort.

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Speaker 2: Months to be exact, never fails.

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Speaker 8: A woman was arrested after reportedly calling nine one once

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Speaker 8: to report that she was stealing a car from a

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Speaker 8: dealership so that she could quote do it legally. According

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Speaker 8: to authorities, deputies are saying that Christy Turmann, who's thirty

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Speaker 8: seven years old, called the Lee County Sheriff's Office to

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Speaker 8: report the crime, and she apparently said, because I'm trying

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Speaker 8: to steal a car that's not legally mine, I'm making

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Speaker 8: a report. I'm reporting this, as he said to dispatch.

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Speaker 8: So Deputy sa Terman told him she was training in

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Speaker 8: a game of black Ops to steal a car, but

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Speaker 8: called nine one one to apparently make the crime legal.

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02:02:55,640 --> 02:02:59,720
Speaker 8: So she was arrested and is facing trespassing charges. According

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Speaker 8: to the Sheriff's office. He's not being charged of trying

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02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:05,520
Speaker 8: to steal the car apparently, so maybe maybe there's some

2235
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:09,360
Speaker 8: method to that madness, but nonetheless, she is facing criminal

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Speaker 8: charges for that brain dead moment that she had calling

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Speaker 8: the police to report her own crimes. So Christy Turman,

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Speaker 8: thirty seven years old, Fort Myers, Florida, what kind of

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Speaker 8: brand New fool?

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Speaker 2: Are you very representative of the Brand New Fool franchise?

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Speaker 2: As we continue on, Shay, you're a veteran at this game.

2242
02:03:28,720 --> 02:03:29,760
Speaker 2: What do you got for us today?

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Speaker 12: So we're going to Manhattan, New York. But wait for it, guys,

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02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:37,520
Speaker 12: don't worry. A Florida man by the name of Sina

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Speaker 12: Haliver faces multiple charges after being caught on camera throwing

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Speaker 12: furniture off a twentieth floor terence off a midtown Manhattan

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02:03:48,360 --> 02:03:52,440
Speaker 12: high rise building. The incident occurred last week Friday, causing

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Speaker 12: alarm and potential danger to pedestrians below as furniture and

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02:03:56,400 --> 02:04:00,959
Speaker 12: planks of wood rained from the sky. So the NYPD

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Speaker 12: responded to reports of a man hurling tables, benches, and

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Speaker 12: chairs from the building onto the busy street and sidewalk.

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02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:12,600
Speaker 12: Officers quickly apprhanded Oliver of West Park, Florida, who was

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02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:17,560
Speaker 12: later charged with burglary, reckless engagement, criminal mischief, and criminal trespassing.

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Speaker 1: Videos have been circulating around social media.

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Speaker 12: If you guys do want to go see that, you

2256
02:04:21,760 --> 02:04:23,840
Speaker 12: can just go on Twitter X and just look up

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Speaker 12: Florida man throwing stuff off of the New York building and.

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02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure it will well check that out.

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02:04:29,040 --> 02:04:32,360
Speaker 12: But but yeah, this just leads me to believe that

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Speaker 12: Florida has definitely got some things to figure out.

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Speaker 1: But Jean Oliver, what kind of fool are you?

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02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:41,040
Speaker 2: They seem to Florida seem to have coreded the market

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02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:43,280
Speaker 2: on our They on our brand new fool.

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Speaker 12: They've given me too much, you know, it's I'm very

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02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:47,040
Speaker 12: thankful for them.

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02:04:47,440 --> 02:04:50,840
Speaker 2: Incredible if we go from Las Cruces, New Mexico, to

2267
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Speaker 2: to Florida and then to Manhattan, but with a Florida twist,

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02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:57,680
Speaker 2: and that of course concludes another rising edition of what

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02:04:57,800 --> 02:04:59,880
Speaker 2: kind of brand new fool are You, which allows us

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Speaker 2: no out of segue into our second favorite bit that

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02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:08,360
Speaker 2: we lovely referred to as what my name? And here

2272
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:12,160
Speaker 2: we go? All right? This past week, the Boston Celtics

2273
02:05:12,760 --> 02:05:16,640
Speaker 2: won the NBA Championship, hadn't done so since nineteen since

2274
02:05:16,680 --> 02:05:19,920
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. The last time the Boston Celtics

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Speaker 2: won a championship, I was their head coach, Shaye moganngar

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02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:23,800
Speaker 2: what my name?

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Speaker 12: So that was two thousand and eight, so that would

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Speaker 12: have to be.

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Speaker 1: What was his name?

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Speaker 12: Because I know that was the team with Paul Pierce,

2281
02:05:35,960 --> 02:05:38,640
Speaker 12: Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen. Oh my god, who's their coach?

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02:05:39,120 --> 02:05:41,960
Speaker 12: I hate this? Oh man, that's a brain part.

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02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:42,879
Speaker 1: If I have a rod.

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Speaker 2: One, you were circling right around it though you had

2285
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Speaker 2: half the roster. Last time the Boston Celtics won an

2286
02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:50,280
Speaker 2: NBA championship was two thousand and eight. I was the

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02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:53,120
Speaker 2: head coach Mark Ramsey what my name?

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Speaker 8: I thought it was Doc Rivers.

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02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:59,640
Speaker 2: It is, in fact Doc Rivers on Doc Rivers.

2290
02:06:00,200 --> 02:06:04,040
Speaker 8: China, and he's been living off that championship ever since.

2291
02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:06,680
Speaker 1: All Right, it's all my fault. It's all my fault.

2292
02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Willie Mays, God rest his soul. Appeared

2293
02:06:15,640 --> 02:06:19,040
Speaker 2: in twenty four Major League Baseball All Star Games, but

2294
02:06:19,080 --> 02:06:21,440
Speaker 2: I'm still the all time leader. I appeared in twenty five.

2295
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:25,000
Speaker 2: USh Kevin Wyatt, what my name?

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02:06:25,360 --> 02:06:31,280
Speaker 15: Twenty five All Star Games? Yep, Pete Rose, not Pete Rose.

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Speaker 15: Good guest, but not Pete Rose. Willie May has had

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Speaker 15: twenty four All Star Games. I'm still the all time

2299
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Speaker 15: leader at twenty five. Mark Ramsey, what my name?

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Speaker 11: Did he play short stuff for the Baltimore Orioles.

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Speaker 2: You're thinking about cal Ripkin, Yes, Cal Ripkan did, but

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Speaker 2: he's not, in fact the answer to our trivia question.

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Speaker 2: Willie May's played in twenty four Major League Baseball All

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Speaker 2: Star Games. I lead everybody with twenty five Major League

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Speaker 2: Baseball All Star Games. Shave Ogengart, what my name?

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Speaker 1: I lucked out here, Bertie.

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Speaker 12: I was just looking him up and I happened to

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Speaker 12: see this, Hank Aaron.

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Speaker 2: It is, in fact Hank Aaron Amer and Hank Aaron

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Speaker 2: Amber and Hank Aron Legend. All right, after Babe Ruth

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02:07:19,240 --> 02:07:22,280
Speaker 2: did it, I became the second person in Major League

2312
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Speaker 2: baseball history to hit six on her home runs. Mark Ramsey,

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Speaker 2: what my name?

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02:07:27,440 --> 02:07:28,440
Speaker 1: Say the question again?

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02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 2: After Babe Ruth did it, I became the second Major

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02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:34,160
Speaker 2: League baseball person in history to achieve six hundred career

2317
02:07:34,200 --> 02:07:35,440
Speaker 2: home runs. What my name?

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02:07:39,120 --> 02:07:39,960
Speaker 8: Willie Mays?

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02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:44,920
Speaker 2: It is Willie Mays. Moving right along.

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Speaker 1: We're making this quick.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to Stanley Cup playoffs, I still hold

2322
02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:56,160
Speaker 2: the record for most points in a single postseason. Kevin

2323
02:07:56,200 --> 02:07:59,000
Speaker 2: Wyre What my name? I'm gonna go with Wayne grant Sky.

2324
02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:02,840
Speaker 2: It is Wayne Revski. Guys are cranking right along here.

2325
02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:04,080
Speaker 1: We're making this easy.

2326
02:08:04,280 --> 02:08:07,080
Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna We're going to flip to current times.

2327
02:08:07,120 --> 02:08:11,480
Speaker 2: Now we are talking about the twenty twenty four Major

2328
02:08:11,560 --> 02:08:15,280
Speaker 2: League baseball season. I'm the first Major League baseball player

2329
02:08:15,480 --> 02:08:18,840
Speaker 2: this season to reach one hundred hits. Mark Ramsey, what

2330
02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:19,320
Speaker 2: my name?

2331
02:08:23,120 --> 02:08:23,680
Speaker 8: I don't know?

2332
02:08:24,160 --> 02:08:26,960
Speaker 2: Okay, no problem. I'm the first Major League baseball player

2333
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:31,680
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four to reach one hundred hits. Shave Opengar, what.

2334
02:08:31,720 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 1: My name, one hundred total hits.

2335
02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, this season, first one to get to one hundred hits?

2336
02:08:36,920 --> 02:08:38,040
Speaker 1: Is it Gunner?

2337
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:42,120
Speaker 2: Not Gunner? I'm the first major League baseball player to

2338
02:08:42,160 --> 02:08:44,960
Speaker 2: reach a hundred hits this season? Kevin Wire at the chef?

2339
02:08:44,960 --> 02:08:45,440
Speaker 2: What my name?

2340
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:50,080
Speaker 8: Man? This is a tough one. Shoey O'tani not Chotani.

2341
02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:52,680
Speaker 2: But I give you guys a clue. He is on

2342
02:08:52,720 --> 02:09:04,520
Speaker 2: a California team, one of the Dodgers rivals. Anybody, all right,

2343
02:09:04,720 --> 02:09:07,720
Speaker 2: it's Lewis Luis Audiez of the Sandy.

2344
02:09:11,840 --> 02:09:13,480
Speaker 8: I still think of him as on the Marlins.

2345
02:09:13,480 --> 02:09:16,280
Speaker 2: I know he was traded, but yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep.

2346
02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:17,800
Speaker 1: Oh he's one hundred hits already.

2347
02:09:17,840 --> 02:09:19,240
Speaker 2: He got one hundred hits. He's the first one to

2348
02:09:19,240 --> 02:09:20,000
Speaker 2: reach you on hunter hits.

2349
02:09:20,040 --> 02:09:21,160
Speaker 1: Oh wow, good for the Giants.

2350
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:29,400
Speaker 2: All right? So, uh, Willie May's passed on Wednesday. So now,

2351
02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:33,840
Speaker 2: with the advent of Willie Mays's passing, I am now

2352
02:09:33,880 --> 02:09:37,920
Speaker 2: currently the oldest living Major League Baseball Hall of Famer

2353
02:09:38,120 --> 02:09:39,520
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey, what my name.

2354
02:09:44,240 --> 02:09:44,280
Speaker 5: Is?

2355
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:49,200
Speaker 2: Oh no, not Reggie, no, Reggie. Richie's only about well,

2356
02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:53,840
Speaker 2: I say only Reggie's about seventy seven or seventy eight.

2357
02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:56,760
Speaker 2: All right, with the passing of Willie Mays, I'm now

2358
02:09:56,800 --> 02:10:01,000
Speaker 2: the oldest living Major League Baseball player in the of fame.

2359
02:10:01,080 --> 02:10:02,600
Speaker 2: Shavee Mogngar, What my name.

2360
02:10:03,400 --> 02:10:04,480
Speaker 1: Ah, he's got to be old.

2361
02:10:04,720 --> 02:10:06,440
Speaker 2: Huh, he's ninety.

2362
02:10:06,640 --> 02:10:07,400
Speaker 1: He's ninety.

2363
02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:08,160
Speaker 2: Yep.

2364
02:10:09,120 --> 02:10:15,960
Speaker 12: Okay, Kevin, help me out.

2365
02:10:15,880 --> 02:10:16,280
Speaker 2: Here, man.

2366
02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:21,120
Speaker 8: I know Sandy Kofax is alive and kicking, so he's.

2367
02:10:20,920 --> 02:10:23,920
Speaker 1: Not ninety though. Oh my god, who you see? He

2368
02:10:24,000 --> 02:10:26,520
Speaker 1: came out? We got too many, right, he's coming out

2369
02:10:26,520 --> 02:10:27,160
Speaker 1: with hard ones.

2370
02:10:27,280 --> 02:10:31,760
Speaker 2: Now. It is Louis Aparicio. Oh. He was a great

2371
02:10:31,800 --> 02:10:34,880
Speaker 2: middle infielder with the White Sox and a great defensive player.

2372
02:10:34,880 --> 02:10:37,720
Speaker 2: But Louis Aparicio is now the oldest one. All right,

2373
02:10:37,800 --> 02:10:40,800
Speaker 2: let's jump to the WNBA. Recently, in the WNBA, I

2374
02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:44,200
Speaker 2: set a new record seven straight games with a double double.

2375
02:10:44,240 --> 02:10:45,400
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey, what my name?

2376
02:10:47,080 --> 02:10:48,120
Speaker 8: Angel Reese?

2377
02:10:48,200 --> 02:10:54,960
Speaker 2: It is Angel Reese. Let's go back to baseball. In

2378
02:10:55,080 --> 02:10:59,480
Speaker 2: my illustrious career, I was issued more intentional walks than

2379
02:10:59,480 --> 02:11:03,720
Speaker 2: any other ball player in Major League Baseball history. Shaan Mogangart,

2380
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:06,040
Speaker 2: What my name? I mean?

2381
02:11:06,200 --> 02:11:08,800
Speaker 1: It would have to be mister Juice himself, right, Barry Bonds.

2382
02:11:08,960 --> 02:11:12,600
Speaker 2: It is, in fact Jerry Bond. Yeah, he was, my god,

2383
02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:15,720
Speaker 2: he was intentionally why I got the numbers somewhere. But

2384
02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:17,680
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. He's way ahead of everybody else.

2385
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:19,800
Speaker 12: I would throw so far away from the box it

2386
02:11:19,840 --> 02:11:21,960
Speaker 12: would be insane. I would go nowhere near that.

2387
02:11:22,240 --> 02:11:24,680
Speaker 2: I like to go ahead, go ahead, chef.

2388
02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:28,120
Speaker 8: I'd like to know if there's any like, any computer

2389
02:11:28,240 --> 02:11:31,000
Speaker 8: nerds who can break down the potential amount of runs

2390
02:11:31,000 --> 02:11:34,720
Speaker 8: saved by walking him intentionally as often as he was well.

2391
02:11:34,760 --> 02:11:36,400
Speaker 2: I think the Angels did that in the two thousand

2392
02:11:36,440 --> 02:11:38,040
Speaker 2: and two series. Man, if you go back, I think

2393
02:11:38,040 --> 02:11:39,880
Speaker 2: they intentionally walked him like twelve times.

2394
02:11:39,960 --> 02:11:41,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the way to do it.

2395
02:11:41,680 --> 02:11:42,960
Speaker 8: I think the home runn he hit I was in

2396
02:11:43,000 --> 02:11:45,280
Speaker 8: the game five. Game six still hasn't landed.

2397
02:11:46,400 --> 02:11:48,600
Speaker 2: I will tell you. I grew up a few minutes

2398
02:11:48,600 --> 02:11:51,000
Speaker 2: from Majel Stadium, and I was with CBS Radio Detroit

2399
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:53,440
Speaker 2: when they got to the game six. In game seven,

2400
02:11:53,480 --> 02:11:55,600
Speaker 2: I reached out to a lady Nancy Man's Mania and

2401
02:11:55,680 --> 02:11:57,640
Speaker 2: she helped me get a credential. I was not going

2402
02:11:57,680 --> 02:12:00,320
Speaker 2: to miss it. And the Aches were down five nothing

2403
02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:02,120
Speaker 2: in the seventh inning, and I said, I don't know, man,

2404
02:12:02,120 --> 02:12:04,600
Speaker 2: this is the rally Monkey team. Sure enough, they come

2405
02:12:04,640 --> 02:12:06,440
Speaker 2: back and win. They come back and win Game seven.

2406
02:12:06,680 --> 02:12:08,960
Speaker 2: I'll never forget that picture of Boonds sitting on the bench.

2407
02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:10,880
Speaker 2: He looked like it be shot out of a cannon.

2408
02:12:10,920 --> 02:12:13,560
Speaker 2: He was so sad. And they walked him. They had to.

2409
02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:16,720
Speaker 2: They could not get him out. You could not get

2410
02:12:16,800 --> 02:12:18,880
Speaker 2: him out. I mean you could throw the ball behind him,

2411
02:12:18,920 --> 02:12:20,760
Speaker 2: you could throw a could hit it with the canoe paddle.

2412
02:12:20,800 --> 02:12:23,600
Speaker 2: He's he was constantly gonna beat you. He was incredible.

2413
02:12:24,560 --> 02:12:28,160
Speaker 2: All right, let's stay with baseball. He's last two. This

2414
02:12:28,280 --> 02:12:31,520
Speaker 2: is true trivia. Here to this day, I'm still the

2415
02:12:31,560 --> 02:12:35,120
Speaker 2: oldest pitcher in Major League Baseball history to actually start

2416
02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:38,080
Speaker 2: a game on the mound. Mark Ramsey went, my name

2417
02:12:40,040 --> 02:12:43,160
Speaker 2: Tom sever It's not a bad one, not Tom Sever.

2418
02:12:43,840 --> 02:12:45,960
Speaker 2: To this day, I'm still the oldest starting pitcher in

2419
02:12:45,960 --> 02:12:49,200
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball because you start a game, Shane Oganngart,

2420
02:12:49,240 --> 02:12:49,800
Speaker 2: what my name?

2421
02:12:50,240 --> 02:12:53,080
Speaker 1: Okay? I only know this because I play on LV

2422
02:12:53,200 --> 02:12:54,840
Speaker 1: the show. In his card he has like an old

2423
02:12:54,920 --> 02:12:55,840
Speaker 1: card for it's like.

2424
02:12:59,400 --> 02:13:02,640
Speaker 8: All right, I legitimately when I first read like he

2425
02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:05,960
Speaker 8: was why like fifty three or somebody nine? I didn't

2426
02:13:05,960 --> 02:13:08,200
Speaker 8: think that was real. Like I'm like, no, no, no, this

2427
02:13:08,200 --> 02:13:10,520
Speaker 8: this is fake. Like he was killing it at forty two.

2428
02:13:10,720 --> 02:13:13,480
Speaker 2: Man, hey, listen, that's he was killing in forty two.

2429
02:13:13,520 --> 02:13:16,200
Speaker 2: And look, Julio Franco hit a home run in fifty

2430
02:13:16,440 --> 02:13:18,520
Speaker 2: Mini Minoso came in to pitch it in nineteen eighty

2431
02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:21,920
Speaker 2: and fifty three. It's happened. Okay, it's happened. Last one.

2432
02:13:21,960 --> 02:13:25,400
Speaker 2: Now this one, maybe this might be the toughest one

2433
02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:27,360
Speaker 2: I've ever had two years to do in this game.

2434
02:13:27,640 --> 02:13:31,160
Speaker 2: But if you know what, you know it okay to

2435
02:13:31,240 --> 02:13:34,120
Speaker 2: this day. I well, not to this day, because this

2436
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:37,880
Speaker 2: involves something in the decade of the nineties. In the

2437
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:42,160
Speaker 2: decade of the nineties, I had more bas hits than

2438
02:13:42,200 --> 02:13:51,680
Speaker 2: any other Major League baseball player. Mark Ramsey, what my name, a'guire?

2439
02:13:52,720 --> 02:13:56,000
Speaker 2: Not you're thinking of Mark McGuire. Not Mark McGuire. Okay,

2440
02:13:56,120 --> 02:13:58,960
Speaker 2: I had more bass hits in the decades of the

2441
02:13:59,040 --> 02:14:03,760
Speaker 2: nineties than any other Major League baseball player. Shane Ogingar, what.

2442
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:08,320
Speaker 1: My name, uh, Ken Griffy, Not.

2443
02:14:08,360 --> 02:14:12,919
Speaker 2: Ken Griffy, not the kid. In the decade of the nineties,

2444
02:14:13,080 --> 02:14:17,200
Speaker 2: I had more hits, more bass hits than any other

2445
02:14:17,240 --> 02:14:19,040
Speaker 2: player in the entire decade of the nineties.

2446
02:14:21,880 --> 02:14:24,520
Speaker 8: I'm gonna have to guess the greatest pure here I've

2447
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:26,200
Speaker 8: seen in my lifetime Tony Gwynn.

2448
02:14:26,600 --> 02:14:29,000
Speaker 2: See, that's a really good guess. And it's not Tony Gwynn.

2449
02:14:29,120 --> 02:14:31,160
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's keep going. We could get this.

2450
02:14:31,240 --> 02:14:33,400
Speaker 2: Well, tell you what I'm gonna give you, guys some clues.

2451
02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:36,360
Speaker 2: He went to high school in southern California and played

2452
02:14:36,360 --> 02:14:37,920
Speaker 2: college baseball at San Diego State.

2453
02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:44,040
Speaker 8: Okay, well that I mean Tony gwyn Who is that?

2454
02:14:45,480 --> 02:14:48,040
Speaker 2: Gwen gwyn went to Long Beach Polly and played at

2455
02:14:48,080 --> 02:14:49,800
Speaker 2: San Diego State. But it's not Tony Gwynn.

2456
02:14:50,440 --> 02:14:51,680
Speaker 1: Did Bigio go there?

2457
02:14:52,360 --> 02:14:54,240
Speaker 2: I'll give you another clue. We went to the same

2458
02:14:54,320 --> 02:14:55,920
Speaker 2: high school as Sean Green.

2459
02:14:56,760 --> 02:14:58,880
Speaker 8: So Tustin High High.

2460
02:14:58,960 --> 02:15:00,600
Speaker 2: Right, look at you actually done?

2461
02:15:00,840 --> 02:15:03,200
Speaker 8: Yeah? I went to a friend of minelf Wait do

2462
02:15:03,280 --> 02:15:05,840
Speaker 8: you group with Tustin? I went to elementary and junior

2463
02:15:05,880 --> 02:15:06,480
Speaker 8: high in Testin.

2464
02:15:06,600 --> 02:15:07,800
Speaker 2: Oh what high school did you go to?

2465
02:15:08,000 --> 02:15:09,400
Speaker 8: I went to Tabuca Hills in Michigan.

2466
02:15:09,600 --> 02:15:10,520
Speaker 2: Oh, sure, sure, I know that.

2467
02:15:10,560 --> 02:15:12,560
Speaker 8: Sure, and then I went to Saint Jean de Lessonnox School.

2468
02:15:12,560 --> 02:15:15,640
Speaker 2: And where did you go? Like? Was it was that

2469
02:15:15,760 --> 02:15:16,760
Speaker 2: like a junior either.

2470
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:20,400
Speaker 8: No, Columbus Tuestin. No, I went to Saint I went

2471
02:15:20,440 --> 02:15:21,960
Speaker 8: to Saint Gene de Lesson, which is.

2472
02:15:21,960 --> 02:15:23,840
Speaker 2: Like a lot of kids from modern day went to

2473
02:15:23,840 --> 02:15:24,600
Speaker 2: Saint Yes.

2474
02:15:24,440 --> 02:15:25,880
Speaker 8: He did, Yes, yes they did.

2475
02:15:26,000 --> 02:15:28,960
Speaker 2: All right, we're all those clicking noises are radio sets

2476
02:15:28,960 --> 02:15:31,440
Speaker 2: turning off in the country. We better get off of this. Yeah,

2477
02:15:31,520 --> 02:15:32,960
Speaker 2: but you guys are gonna get this till you went

2478
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:36,240
Speaker 2: to Tustin High. Tustin, you know, produced a lot of

2479
02:15:36,280 --> 02:15:44,720
Speaker 2: athletes left handed hitter. Did he bones there, Mark Grace?

2480
02:15:45,400 --> 02:15:47,440
Speaker 2: I was about to say he made his made his

2481
02:15:47,560 --> 02:15:49,000
Speaker 2: bones with the cups.

2482
02:15:48,640 --> 02:15:49,600
Speaker 8: Saddle back college.

2483
02:15:49,640 --> 02:15:51,440
Speaker 1: Baby, that's boor gold gloves.

2484
02:15:52,600 --> 02:15:54,880
Speaker 2: I love Mark good dude, man. I hung out with

2485
02:15:54,960 --> 02:15:56,280
Speaker 2: him in the press box a few years ago. He

2486
02:15:56,320 --> 02:15:58,440
Speaker 2: had a little bit of a rough adulthood there, right,

2487
02:15:58,840 --> 02:16:00,919
Speaker 2: he had a couple of justin Timberlake incidents.

2488
02:16:00,920 --> 02:16:01,160
Speaker 1: Tonight.

2489
02:16:01,800 --> 02:16:05,960
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he uh, I'm pretty sure he did

2490
02:16:05,960 --> 02:16:08,320
Speaker 2: a little time on the Houscow nineties.

2491
02:16:09,320 --> 02:16:09,520
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2492
02:16:09,560 --> 02:16:12,600
Speaker 2: I love He's really really good dude though. Your Chainsmoker

2493
02:16:12,920 --> 02:16:16,360
Speaker 2: just an interesting guy, just you know, just really sort

2494
02:16:16,360 --> 02:16:20,560
Speaker 2: of a really a really underrated hitter. I've been think

2495
02:16:20,600 --> 02:16:23,080
Speaker 2: about this, guys, in the decade of the nineties, he

2496
02:16:23,120 --> 02:16:25,680
Speaker 2: had one thy seven hundred and fifty four hits. That's

2497
02:16:25,720 --> 02:16:28,400
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy five hits average for ten seasons.

2498
02:16:29,000 --> 02:16:31,440
Speaker 2: Even if you play a one hundred and sixty two games, dude,

2499
02:16:31,920 --> 02:16:34,360
Speaker 2: no one's getting you out. You're getting hit every day, right,

2500
02:16:34,400 --> 02:16:37,280
Speaker 2: So that is that is really quite a performance. And

2501
02:16:37,320 --> 02:16:39,440
Speaker 2: when you consider all the great hitters that were still

2502
02:16:39,879 --> 02:16:43,959
Speaker 2: active in the nineties, I mean, he he absolutely you know,

2503
02:16:44,080 --> 02:16:48,720
Speaker 2: made his made his mark for sure. All right, outstanding job, guys.

2504
02:16:48,920 --> 02:16:51,160
Speaker 2: I actually feel like I should throw in one bonus one,

2505
02:16:51,160 --> 02:16:53,640
Speaker 2: But this this one is so wacky you guys will

2506
02:16:53,680 --> 02:16:54,400
Speaker 2: be laughing.

2507
02:16:54,120 --> 02:16:56,360
Speaker 1: Your butt off or the dream theme through to us.

2508
02:16:56,400 --> 02:16:58,520
Speaker 2: Come on, well, all right, you got it, We're gonna

2509
02:16:58,560 --> 02:17:04,400
Speaker 2: do it, all right. I'm an ex major league baseball pitcher,

2510
02:17:05,600 --> 02:17:09,240
Speaker 2: but I have the distinction of once dating a young

2511
02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:16,400
Speaker 2: lady about the name of Madison Bumgarner. True story, Mark Ramsey,

2512
02:17:16,400 --> 02:17:16,920
Speaker 2: what my name?

2513
02:17:18,360 --> 02:17:19,879
Speaker 1: I have absolutely no idea?

2514
02:17:20,080 --> 02:17:23,480
Speaker 2: All right, well, right along, Yes, I'm an ex major

2515
02:17:23,520 --> 02:17:26,840
Speaker 2: league baseball pitcher, but in my history, I actually have

2516
02:17:26,920 --> 02:17:30,600
Speaker 2: the distinction of dating a young lady by the name

2517
02:17:30,600 --> 02:17:35,160
Speaker 2: of Madison Bumgarner. Chef, What my Name?

2518
02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:36,960
Speaker 8: I always thought this was a joke, But is it

2519
02:17:37,000 --> 02:17:39,959
Speaker 8: true that Madison gun Bumgarner dated a girl named Madison?

2520
02:17:41,280 --> 02:17:44,040
Speaker 2: It is not a joke. It's absolutely true. If you

2521
02:17:44,120 --> 02:17:48,840
Speaker 2: ever meet if you ever meet Madison Bumgarner, he'll tell you.

2522
02:17:48,920 --> 02:17:51,280
Speaker 2: It's the only reason we know the story because he

2523
02:17:51,360 --> 02:17:55,000
Speaker 2: told people about it. Great job, guys, it's great.

2524
02:17:55,200 --> 02:17:57,920
Speaker 1: MVP over there, you got come on, you got everything today.

2525
02:17:58,800 --> 02:18:01,039
Speaker 8: I have a few wide pieces of knowledge up him.

2526
02:18:01,240 --> 02:18:03,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm Jalen Brown over there.

2527
02:18:05,320 --> 02:18:07,760
Speaker 2: All right, good job, guys, great job on brand new

2528
02:18:07,800 --> 02:18:10,600
Speaker 2: fool What my Name? Another rousing edition in the books.

2529
02:18:10,600 --> 02:18:15,280
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, after tonight's show, mark check

2530
02:18:15,320 --> 02:18:17,480
Speaker 2: that shape. We'll be putting up the show. The podcast

2531
02:18:17,520 --> 02:18:19,240
Speaker 2: will be going up. If you missed any of the

2532
02:18:19,280 --> 02:18:22,000
Speaker 2: show tonight, be sure to check out the podcast. Just

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Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. Be

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Speaker 2: sure to also follow, rate and review the podcast. Again,

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Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

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02:18:30,800 --> 02:18:33,520
Speaker 2: and to see the show posted right after we get

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Speaker 2: off the air, coming up a lot of them. Finished business.

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Speaker 2: We had a very rousing midnight hour Friday night. We

2539
02:18:44,760 --> 02:18:50,640
Speaker 2: took about twenty one calls, and let me set this up,

2540
02:18:50,680 --> 02:18:53,400
Speaker 2: because the truth of the matter is, it's been a

2541
02:18:53,440 --> 02:18:57,560
Speaker 2: crazy what thirty days. We lost Bill Walton, guess he

2542
02:18:57,600 --> 02:19:00,000
Speaker 2: hasn't played a game in thirty eight years. We lost

2543
02:19:00,120 --> 02:19:02,440
Speaker 2: Jerry West, Yes, he hadn't played a game in fifty years.

2544
02:19:03,000 --> 02:19:05,120
Speaker 2: And we lost Willie Mays he hadn't played a game

2545
02:19:05,160 --> 02:19:07,480
Speaker 2: in fifty one years. He had. All three of those

2546
02:19:07,520 --> 02:19:14,680
Speaker 2: gentlemen iconic transcended their names. They arouse emotion fifty years later.

2547
02:19:15,280 --> 02:19:18,480
Speaker 2: The reverence, the respect, the high esteem that people have

2548
02:19:18,600 --> 02:19:22,160
Speaker 2: for these guys still resonates all these decades later. Is

2549
02:19:22,200 --> 02:19:26,360
Speaker 2: there anybody in today's sports tapestry that's playing right now

2550
02:19:26,840 --> 02:19:30,360
Speaker 2: that might engender the same admiration fifty years from now.

2551
02:19:30,640 --> 02:19:32,560
Speaker 2: We're going to get to that after the chef's update.

2552
02:19:32,879 --> 02:19:35,160
Speaker 2: But I have one more topic that aroused a lot

2553
02:19:35,200 --> 02:19:37,960
Speaker 2: of emotion last night that I'll set up in just

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Speaker 2: a second. I'm Bernie Frattle. We are company live from

2555
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Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Diirec Dot Corom Studios.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie

2557
02:19:44,520 --> 02:19:59,600
Speaker 2: Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. All right, back on the

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02:19:59,640 --> 02:20:01,960
Speaker 2: Bernie f Our Show, Fox Sports Radio. Come to your

2559
02:20:01,959 --> 02:20:05,240
Speaker 2: life from the Tarak dot Com studios here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Coming up after the Chef's update, we talk about what

2561
02:20:09,360 --> 02:20:12,480
Speaker 2: players today would we talk about with the same reverts

2562
02:20:12,520 --> 02:20:16,520
Speaker 2: in fifty years, the same way we talk about Bill Walton,

2563
02:20:16,959 --> 02:20:19,040
Speaker 2: Jerry West, and Willie Mays who we all lost in

2564
02:20:19,080 --> 02:20:21,320
Speaker 2: the last thirty days. And oh, by the way, Pete

2565
02:20:21,360 --> 02:20:23,440
Speaker 2: Rose is back in the news. Gavin, what's going on?

2566
02:20:23,920 --> 02:20:27,040
Speaker 2: There's a servity fruitful purpose anymore to keep him out

2567
02:20:27,080 --> 02:20:30,240
Speaker 2: of baseball. We chop those with the crew coming up,

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02:20:30,320 --> 02:20:32,320
Speaker 2: but first we go back to the guy and the

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Speaker 2: chef with the latest.

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Speaker 8: Yeah day full of baseball on a Saturday, as the

2571
02:20:36,800 --> 02:20:40,160
Speaker 8: Dodgers get a split with a freeway series against the Angels,

2572
02:20:40,160 --> 02:20:43,440
Speaker 8: winning its seven to Saturday Night show, Yo Tani launching

2573
02:20:43,480 --> 02:20:46,199
Speaker 8: his twenty third home run of the season four hundred

2574
02:20:46,280 --> 02:20:49,920
Speaker 8: and fifty nine feet. It was estimated to travel as

2575
02:20:50,000 --> 02:20:51,960
Speaker 8: a look like it might have even cleared the stadium

2576
02:20:52,000 --> 02:20:55,200
Speaker 8: as Tyler Glassnew helping on the mound. Seven innings, one run,

2577
02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:59,480
Speaker 8: alouts and strikeouts seventy four pitches. Aaron Judge with his

2578
02:20:59,600 --> 02:21:01,680
Speaker 8: twenty to home run of the season. The Yankees over

2579
02:21:01,680 --> 02:21:04,320
Speaker 8: the Braves eight to three. Rockies get a win on

2580
02:21:04,400 --> 02:21:07,160
Speaker 8: a pitch clock violation with the bases loaded, They get

2581
02:21:07,160 --> 02:21:09,600
Speaker 8: the walkoff win against the Nationals eight to seven. Kyle

2582
02:21:09,600 --> 02:21:12,720
Speaker 8: Ferguson on the mound with three balls in the count,

2583
02:21:12,760 --> 02:21:14,520
Speaker 8: did not get the pitch off in time, so the

2584
02:21:14,600 --> 02:21:17,560
Speaker 8: Rockies awarded the walk and the run the game winning

2585
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:20,440
Speaker 8: run as it ended up being Colorado winning this one.

2586
02:21:20,560 --> 02:21:23,240
Speaker 8: San Diego four straight wins now they beat the Brewers

2587
02:21:23,240 --> 02:21:26,320
Speaker 8: six to four. The Houston Astros also on a winning

2588
02:21:26,360 --> 02:21:28,920
Speaker 8: streak of four games. They beat the Orioles five to one.

2589
02:21:29,000 --> 02:21:31,840
Speaker 8: The Guardians have made it four straight wins, including a

2590
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Speaker 8: victory sixty three against the Toronto Blue Jays. The Minnesota

2591
02:21:35,760 --> 02:21:39,160
Speaker 8: Twins ten to two winners at the Oakland Athletics. Bailey

2592
02:21:39,200 --> 02:21:41,880
Speaker 8: Ober eighty nine pitches for his complete game. That's all

2593
02:21:41,920 --> 02:21:45,760
Speaker 8: he needed, as he had a ten strikeouts. The Phillies

2594
02:21:45,800 --> 02:21:48,039
Speaker 8: over the Diamondbacks twelve to one. The Cubs beat the

2595
02:21:48,040 --> 02:21:50,840
Speaker 8: Mets eight to one. White Sox winners at Detroit five

2596
02:21:50,959 --> 02:21:54,200
Speaker 8: to one. College World Series Texas A and M winning

2597
02:21:54,200 --> 02:21:57,360
Speaker 8: the opening game against Number one Tennessee nine to five.

2598
02:21:58,000 --> 02:22:01,160
Speaker 8: WNBA Breonna Stewart thirty three points as she helps New

2599
02:22:01,200 --> 02:22:04,520
Speaker 8: York beat the La Sparks ninety eight eighty eight. New

2600
02:22:04,600 --> 02:22:07,000
Speaker 8: York now fourteen to three. On the season golf, it's

2601
02:22:07,040 --> 02:22:09,400
Speaker 8: Tom Kim ahead of the Travelers by one stroke. Scottie

2602
02:22:09,400 --> 02:22:13,440
Speaker 8: Scheffler is tied for second place. And soccer Big weekend

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02:22:13,520 --> 02:22:17,120
Speaker 8: in soccer both in the Americas and in Europe, Mexico

2604
02:22:17,200 --> 02:22:21,199
Speaker 8: winning their Copa America opener one nil against Jamaica Venezuela

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Speaker 8: with a comfort behind victory against Ecuador two one. As

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Speaker 8: for the United States men's national team, they kick things

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02:22:28,120 --> 02:22:31,560
Speaker 8: off against Bolivia Sunday evening at six o'clock and that

2608
02:22:31,600 --> 02:22:35,320
Speaker 8: can be seen over on Fox. As for the European

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02:22:35,360 --> 02:22:38,600
Speaker 8: Tournament Euro twenty twenty four, Belgium blanks Romania two nail,

2610
02:22:38,840 --> 02:22:41,400
Speaker 8: Portugal shutting out Turkey three nail. In the Czech Republic

2611
02:22:41,440 --> 02:22:42,920
Speaker 8: ties Georgia one to one.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Bernie, all right, Jeff coming up in

2613
02:22:45,720 --> 02:22:48,920
Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes. By the way, you heard Reggie Jackson's

2614
02:22:49,840 --> 02:22:52,600
Speaker 2: dissertation the other night about how difficult it was for

2615
02:22:52,680 --> 02:22:56,440
Speaker 2: him to come back to rick Woodfield in Birmingham because

2616
02:22:56,440 --> 02:23:01,760
Speaker 2: of the indignities he suffered. That doesn't lead I spent

2617
02:23:01,840 --> 02:23:03,959
Speaker 2: an afternoon with Hank Aaron in nineteen ninety one of

2618
02:23:03,959 --> 02:23:07,160
Speaker 2: the twelfth National Sports Collectors Convention in Anaheim. I was

2619
02:23:07,200 --> 02:23:09,359
Speaker 2: part of the executive committee. He told me a story

2620
02:23:09,760 --> 02:23:15,039
Speaker 2: that had taken place forty years earlier. Also actually was

2621
02:23:15,080 --> 02:23:17,959
Speaker 2: not in Birmingham, Alabama, was in Washington, d C. When

2622
02:23:17,959 --> 02:23:20,400
Speaker 2: he's playing for the Indianapolis Clowns. You don't want to

2623
02:23:20,400 --> 02:23:23,520
Speaker 2: hear this story. It doesn't leave you. All right, let's

2624
02:23:23,520 --> 02:23:26,199
Speaker 2: do these two guys. Let's start with a quick one.

2625
02:23:26,280 --> 02:23:29,199
Speaker 2: Pete Rose, he's making the rounds again. Look, we've had

2626
02:23:29,680 --> 02:23:32,840
Speaker 2: a player banned for life in the NBA and a

2627
02:23:32,840 --> 02:23:37,520
Speaker 2: player banned for life in the situation in Major League Baseball?

2628
02:23:38,200 --> 02:23:40,800
Speaker 2: Does it serve any purpose anymore to keep Pete Rose op?

2629
02:23:40,840 --> 02:23:43,160
Speaker 2: Perhaps he could speak at these symposiums and say, hey,

2630
02:23:43,440 --> 02:23:44,960
Speaker 2: look what happened to me? Do you really want to

2631
02:23:45,000 --> 02:23:47,120
Speaker 2: be me? Start with you, chef? Yes or no? Leave man?

2632
02:23:47,240 --> 02:23:48,600
Speaker 8: Or out the Hall of Fame?

2633
02:23:50,120 --> 02:23:53,280
Speaker 2: Well two things. Should he be eligible to at least

2634
02:23:53,280 --> 02:23:54,800
Speaker 2: be voted for in the Hall of Fame. But even

2635
02:23:54,840 --> 02:23:57,200
Speaker 2: if he's not, should he be banned from baseball? He's

2636
02:23:57,200 --> 02:23:58,480
Speaker 2: not allowed to work in baseball.

2637
02:23:59,080 --> 02:24:02,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, I've always felt that being banned from working within

2638
02:24:02,320 --> 02:24:06,360
Speaker 8: the league was always a justifiable punishment given the extent

2639
02:24:06,440 --> 02:24:08,720
Speaker 8: that he gambled, not only on baseball but on his

2640
02:24:08,760 --> 02:24:11,240
Speaker 8: own team. Apparently it was only to win, according to Rose,

2641
02:24:11,240 --> 02:24:13,480
Speaker 8: but that's just a that's just a red line that

2642
02:24:13,480 --> 02:24:16,280
Speaker 8: cannot be crossed. So when it comes to him working

2643
02:24:16,320 --> 02:24:18,600
Speaker 8: for a team, I've always supported him not being able

2644
02:24:18,640 --> 02:24:21,480
Speaker 8: to do that. He just he broke the He broke

2645
02:24:21,560 --> 02:24:24,760
Speaker 8: the most cardinal rule in Major League Baseball and it's

2646
02:24:24,760 --> 02:24:27,440
Speaker 8: posted in every clubhouse. He knew that he broke the rules.

2647
02:24:27,480 --> 02:24:29,320
Speaker 2: That's one thing that so we'll call that or no,

2648
02:24:29,640 --> 02:24:31,440
Speaker 2: would you should be voted on the Hall of Fame.

2649
02:24:31,520 --> 02:24:33,600
Speaker 8: Hall of Fame I think is different, just because that's

2650
02:24:33,640 --> 02:24:38,160
Speaker 8: about recognizing achievements as opposed to whether he broke any

2651
02:24:38,240 --> 02:24:39,760
Speaker 8: rules in the game. I mean, he is the old

2652
02:24:39,760 --> 02:24:41,959
Speaker 8: time hits leader, and I think that's something that should

2653
02:24:42,000 --> 02:24:43,440
Speaker 8: absolutely be recognized.

2654
02:24:43,879 --> 02:24:44,080
Speaker 3: Now.

2655
02:24:44,120 --> 02:24:46,000
Speaker 8: The thing that's keeping out of the Hall of Fame,

2656
02:24:46,040 --> 02:24:49,240
Speaker 8: I think now, more than the gambling, was the statutory

2657
02:24:49,280 --> 02:24:51,640
Speaker 8: rape allegation that came out against him a few years ago.

2658
02:24:51,680 --> 02:24:53,280
Speaker 8: Because it seemed like he was kind of working his

2659
02:24:53,320 --> 02:24:53,840
Speaker 8: way backward.

2660
02:24:54,800 --> 02:24:57,119
Speaker 2: Let that kind of let go for Fox.

2661
02:24:57,080 --> 02:25:00,600
Speaker 8: Yes, exactly. So I think before that came out, he

2662
02:25:00,760 --> 02:25:03,080
Speaker 8: was maybe kind of inching his way toward maybe at

2663
02:25:03,160 --> 02:25:05,959
Speaker 8: least getting a shot at the Hall of Fame. But

2664
02:25:06,040 --> 02:25:06,720
Speaker 8: as soon as.

2665
02:25:06,600 --> 02:25:10,560
Speaker 2: That, yeah, I think Rob, I don't want to get

2666
02:25:10,560 --> 02:25:14,400
Speaker 2: to all these subjects. In nineteen eighty nine, Brose had

2667
02:25:14,440 --> 02:25:17,120
Speaker 2: a chance and he kind of gave the middle finger

2668
02:25:17,160 --> 02:25:21,160
Speaker 2: to a bar Giamati who passed away suddenly, and he

2669
02:25:21,200 --> 02:25:23,039
Speaker 2: handed it off to fave Vincent. I think it was

2670
02:25:23,080 --> 02:25:25,640
Speaker 2: a deathbed wish. No, he's not getting in. That was

2671
02:25:25,640 --> 02:25:28,720
Speaker 2: handed off to Bud Selig and Rob Manfred. The question

2672
02:25:28,920 --> 02:25:31,400
Speaker 2: is whether or not it's serving any fruitful purpose anymore.

2673
02:25:31,480 --> 02:25:34,120
Speaker 2: But I think you make your point pretty well. Shay

2674
02:25:34,200 --> 02:25:34,720
Speaker 2: your thoughts.

2675
02:25:35,720 --> 02:25:40,240
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'd have to agree with with Wire basically on

2676
02:25:40,320 --> 02:25:44,280
Speaker 12: all of those accounts. I do not think he should

2677
02:25:44,280 --> 02:25:46,320
Speaker 12: be working for a team at all, especially after all

2678
02:25:46,360 --> 02:25:48,840
Speaker 12: the gailing. It's just he was one of the biggest

2679
02:25:50,160 --> 02:25:52,879
Speaker 12: not advocates. But the word I'm looking forward is one

2680
02:25:52,879 --> 02:25:55,279
Speaker 12: of the biggest people to do that in terms of sports,

2681
02:25:55,280 --> 02:25:57,560
Speaker 12: and that's such an early time too. I'm sure there

2682
02:25:57,640 --> 02:25:59,480
Speaker 12: was others doing it, but he was the most popular.

2683
02:25:59,520 --> 02:26:01,200
Speaker 12: He is the most hits. He still is the MLB

2684
02:26:01,280 --> 02:26:04,320
Speaker 12: all time leader in hits. So it's someone that big

2685
02:26:04,600 --> 02:26:06,640
Speaker 12: doing that. It just it kind of rubs me the

2686
02:26:06,680 --> 02:26:08,440
Speaker 12: wrong way. So no, I do not think he should

2687
02:26:08,480 --> 02:26:11,120
Speaker 12: be able to work for the MLB. But this is

2688
02:26:11,160 --> 02:26:13,080
Speaker 12: something that me and you have discussed and something that

2689
02:26:13,120 --> 02:26:16,119
Speaker 12: you touch on all the time. When they were playing,

2690
02:26:16,600 --> 02:26:20,360
Speaker 12: especially in that era, everyone was juiced. Everyone was doing

2691
02:26:20,400 --> 02:26:23,800
Speaker 12: something that they weren't supposed to be doing it. When

2692
02:26:23,800 --> 02:26:25,160
Speaker 12: it comes to the Hall of Fame, I feel like

2693
02:26:25,160 --> 02:26:29,119
Speaker 12: because they were playing other people that basically do that,

2694
02:26:29,280 --> 02:26:32,200
Speaker 12: like they were either juiced or whatever drugs they were taking,

2695
02:26:32,240 --> 02:26:35,240
Speaker 12: it doesn't matter. I think that he should still be

2696
02:26:35,280 --> 02:26:36,760
Speaker 12: able to go in the Hall of Fame just because

2697
02:26:36,800 --> 02:26:38,760
Speaker 12: of that, just because the competition was doing the same

2698
02:26:38,760 --> 02:26:42,000
Speaker 12: exact thing, and there are people I'm sure that made

2699
02:26:42,040 --> 02:26:44,360
Speaker 12: the Hall of Fame that didn't end up getting caught.

2700
02:26:44,640 --> 02:26:48,320
Speaker 12: So I just I in regards to Hall of Fame,

2701
02:26:48,360 --> 02:26:50,720
Speaker 12: I think she should definitely be in. But in regards

2702
02:26:50,760 --> 02:26:53,080
Speaker 12: to working in the MLB, I'm very happy that he's

2703
02:26:53,160 --> 02:26:54,879
Speaker 12: not fair.

2704
02:26:55,040 --> 02:26:59,080
Speaker 2: You make the distinction, and you know, the Hall of

2705
02:26:59,120 --> 02:27:01,039
Speaker 2: Fame as a museum, if it was confined to good

2706
02:27:01,040 --> 02:27:03,640
Speaker 2: guys or probably three three people in the Hall of Fame.

2707
02:27:03,720 --> 02:27:07,240
Speaker 2: So you got the last word on this, Mark Ramsey.

2708
02:27:08,520 --> 02:27:10,800
Speaker 11: I still think when it comes to the Hall of Fame,

2709
02:27:10,959 --> 02:27:13,760
Speaker 11: he can't get in because of the gambling. But I

2710
02:27:13,879 --> 02:27:17,000
Speaker 11: do think because he is Pete Rose, that he could

2711
02:27:17,720 --> 02:27:20,480
Speaker 11: talk to baseball players that are just coming into the

2712
02:27:20,560 --> 02:27:25,439
Speaker 11: league and basically help them. I think that he should

2713
02:27:25,879 --> 02:27:31,720
Speaker 11: make his own way to make a case to MLB.

2714
02:27:32,240 --> 02:27:34,320
Speaker 2: He's back doing it now, he's making the rounds with

2715
02:27:34,320 --> 02:27:35,199
Speaker 2: these podcasts.

2716
02:27:35,240 --> 02:27:37,640
Speaker 8: If he's trying to get back in, that's good.

2717
02:27:37,720 --> 02:27:41,920
Speaker 11: But for Hall of Fame, no, because of the cheating

2718
02:27:42,040 --> 02:27:43,360
Speaker 11: of the betting stuff.

2719
02:27:44,800 --> 02:27:49,160
Speaker 2: All right, good variants of opinions and thoughts there with receipts,

2720
02:27:49,200 --> 02:27:54,600
Speaker 2: all right. So Bill Walton has passed, Jerry West has passed,

2721
02:27:55,080 --> 02:27:58,840
Speaker 2: and now Willie Mays has past. And the real significance,

2722
02:27:59,280 --> 02:28:02,560
Speaker 2: obviously to me, is that even though Walton hadn't played

2723
02:28:02,560 --> 02:28:05,080
Speaker 2: a game in thirty eight years, West hadn't played in

2724
02:28:05,120 --> 02:28:07,640
Speaker 2: fifty years, Willie Mays hadn't played in fifty one years.

2725
02:28:08,200 --> 02:28:11,160
Speaker 2: Hit their iconic, They're transcendent. You mentioned her names today,

2726
02:28:11,160 --> 02:28:14,600
Speaker 2: They arouse emotion. You mentioned her names today, You feel

2727
02:28:14,680 --> 02:28:17,640
Speaker 2: you see the reverence, the respect, the highest steem, it

2728
02:28:17,720 --> 02:28:22,039
Speaker 2: resonates decades later. Is there anybody in today's sports tapestry

2729
02:28:22,080 --> 02:28:26,039
Speaker 2: it's currently playing that might have gendered the same admiration

2730
02:28:26,360 --> 02:28:29,680
Speaker 2: fifty years from now. I think Patrick Mahomes has a chance.

2731
02:28:30,000 --> 02:28:32,400
Speaker 2: But I took twenty one calls Friday night in the

2732
02:28:32,400 --> 02:28:35,200
Speaker 2: midnight hour. Some people mentioned Tiger Woods, some people mentioned

2733
02:28:35,200 --> 02:28:39,200
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson, more than one mentioned Steph Curry Shay let's

2734
02:28:39,240 --> 02:28:41,440
Speaker 2: start with you. Who comes to mind? Does anybody fit

2735
02:28:41,480 --> 02:28:42,240
Speaker 2: that criteria?

2736
02:28:42,640 --> 02:28:44,879
Speaker 12: So, I mean, as a Dodger fan, I might be biased,

2737
02:28:44,879 --> 02:28:46,679
Speaker 12: but shoheo Tani definitely.

2738
02:28:46,400 --> 02:28:47,920
Speaker 2: I think that name came up last night.

2739
02:28:48,040 --> 02:28:51,240
Speaker 12: Yes, I mean Trout. He is just pure blood New

2740
02:28:51,360 --> 02:28:54,000
Speaker 12: York Yankee. I think he will definitely be someone that

2741
02:28:54,040 --> 02:28:55,840
Speaker 12: we hear about and us what's interesting?

2742
02:28:55,879 --> 02:28:58,800
Speaker 2: Do you think Mike Trout checks the box? If that

2743
02:28:59,000 --> 02:29:01,920
Speaker 2: Walton did with this quotability in the media, and Willie

2744
02:29:02,040 --> 02:29:06,320
Speaker 2: Mays did with his say hey enthusiasm, and certainly Jerry West,

2745
02:29:06,520 --> 02:29:09,160
Speaker 2: it was a savive. Trout's just a really good athlete

2746
02:29:09,200 --> 02:29:09,640
Speaker 2: one hundred.

2747
02:29:10,000 --> 02:29:11,800
Speaker 12: But that's all he needs to be. That's what I'm saying.

2748
02:29:11,840 --> 02:29:15,120
Speaker 12: Like in regards to we're all talking about him. He

2749
02:29:15,160 --> 02:29:17,360
Speaker 12: barely goes to the media, He barely comes out and

2750
02:29:17,360 --> 02:29:19,400
Speaker 12: says things. And every time he does say something, we

2751
02:29:19,520 --> 02:29:19,880
Speaker 12: love him.

2752
02:29:19,879 --> 02:29:20,000
Speaker 5: You know.

2753
02:29:20,080 --> 02:29:21,880
Speaker 2: Does that hold up fifty years from now? Though?

2754
02:29:21,959 --> 02:29:25,520
Speaker 1: I truly think just because he's on the Yankees.

2755
02:29:25,240 --> 02:29:29,880
Speaker 2: It will if he was he ultimatelyans because he's from

2756
02:29:29,879 --> 02:29:32,000
Speaker 2: New Jersey. Think Yale ultimately ins up back there?

2757
02:29:32,720 --> 02:29:34,200
Speaker 1: Ah, No, I think he'll retire.

2758
02:29:36,160 --> 02:29:39,160
Speaker 2: That's right. Hold that thought. That's going to be a

2759
02:29:39,200 --> 02:29:43,000
Speaker 2: conversation for a different data because he hasn't worked time

2760
02:29:43,080 --> 02:29:46,240
Speaker 2: for that. I think the thing about it with these

2761
02:29:46,280 --> 02:29:50,039
Speaker 2: players is they transcend their sport with the tangible visceral

2762
02:29:50,600 --> 02:29:54,440
Speaker 2: feeling they engender, and people chef your thoughts. Is here

2763
02:29:54,440 --> 02:29:57,200
Speaker 2: anybody playing today we're going to be talking about fifty

2764
02:29:57,240 --> 02:29:58,879
Speaker 2: years from now, like we're talking about Jerry West.

2765
02:29:58,920 --> 02:30:01,920
Speaker 8: I would say showy a maze Schoeyotani's probably the best bet,

2766
02:30:02,000 --> 02:30:05,279
Speaker 8: just because he's doing what hasn't been seen in baseball

2767
02:30:05,360 --> 02:30:08,119
Speaker 8: in one hundred years. So we did it. So it's

2768
02:30:08,160 --> 02:30:11,200
Speaker 8: because of how unique a skill set and how great

2769
02:30:11,240 --> 02:30:13,800
Speaker 8: he has been, not just hitting and pitching. It's just

2770
02:30:13,840 --> 02:30:16,520
Speaker 8: someone we don't see very often so that will carry

2771
02:30:17,280 --> 02:30:20,240
Speaker 8: decades into the future. As for all the other players

2772
02:30:20,240 --> 02:30:22,920
Speaker 8: mentioned across different sports, I mean, they're great, but they're

2773
02:30:22,920 --> 02:30:27,080
Speaker 8: not like I haven't seen anything that says they're the

2774
02:30:27,160 --> 02:30:29,520
Speaker 8: type of great player that we'll be talking about in

2775
02:30:29,520 --> 02:30:30,000
Speaker 8: fifty others.

2776
02:30:30,040 --> 02:30:31,560
Speaker 2: Again, a lot of these guys got to end up

2777
02:30:31,560 --> 02:30:33,480
Speaker 2: in the media in the public eye afterward as well.

2778
02:30:33,520 --> 02:30:36,480
Speaker 2: All right, Mark Ramsey, you were part of the discussion

2779
02:30:36,560 --> 02:30:38,439
Speaker 2: last night, you got the last word.

2780
02:30:38,840 --> 02:30:40,800
Speaker 11: Based on what we were talking about, and just you know,

2781
02:30:40,879 --> 02:30:43,600
Speaker 11: right now, just thinking about this stuff, I don't know

2782
02:30:43,959 --> 02:30:50,080
Speaker 11: if anybody right now quantified that their careers, if they're

2783
02:30:50,120 --> 02:30:55,520
Speaker 11: in their twenties, if they have any attributes right now that,

2784
02:30:56,320 --> 02:31:00,280
Speaker 11: like you said, brings a certain emotion, because I mean,

2785
02:31:01,160 --> 02:31:04,200
Speaker 11: I I was just thinking about Anthony Rizzo because he

2786
02:31:04,440 --> 02:31:06,480
Speaker 11: was a Cub and he was on a team that

2787
02:31:07,200 --> 02:31:10,080
Speaker 11: finally won a Cub game after a hundred years. But

2788
02:31:10,560 --> 02:31:13,400
Speaker 11: for all the things that you say about Walton and

2789
02:31:13,600 --> 02:31:19,000
Speaker 11: May's and Jerry West, what is it about them that

2790
02:31:19,160 --> 02:31:24,920
Speaker 11: brings emotion? And do those attributes? Are they are anybody

2791
02:31:25,000 --> 02:31:28,440
Speaker 11: right now? And see that's what I'm saying that there's

2792
02:31:28,480 --> 02:31:33,120
Speaker 11: nobody right now that I see has certain attributes that

2793
02:31:33,400 --> 02:31:37,400
Speaker 11: will carry on, you know, because they do things on

2794
02:31:37,520 --> 02:31:41,360
Speaker 11: the field versus off the field for various reasons. I

2795
02:31:41,400 --> 02:31:44,760
Speaker 11: don't see anybody right now in their twenties, based on

2796
02:31:44,840 --> 02:31:47,200
Speaker 11: what they do off the field or what is going

2797
02:31:47,240 --> 02:31:51,520
Speaker 11: on in their life that would, you know, allow people

2798
02:31:51,520 --> 02:31:53,600
Speaker 11: to think about them fifty years from now.

2799
02:31:54,600 --> 02:31:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty years is a long time, and you have

2800
02:31:57,320 --> 02:32:01,560
Speaker 2: to have reached people emotional on a tangible visceral level

2801
02:32:01,840 --> 02:32:03,920
Speaker 2: to be remembered with the same kind of reverence. These

2802
02:32:03,959 --> 02:32:06,080
Speaker 2: three guys all within the last three days.

2803
02:32:06,000 --> 02:32:08,520
Speaker 12: Real quick, Bernie, before you go to break. Lebron needs

2804
02:32:08,520 --> 02:32:11,760
Speaker 12: to be mentioned life. Okay, good, Lebron's definitely going to

2805
02:32:11,800 --> 02:32:13,920
Speaker 12: be there, and Tiger will definitely be talked about.

2806
02:32:13,959 --> 02:32:16,080
Speaker 2: Tiger, I think is a real chance. Yeah, all right, good,

2807
02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:19,160
Speaker 2: good stuff, guys. Again, that's something we can revisit at

2808
02:32:19,200 --> 02:32:22,160
Speaker 2: another time. I am hoping that we go a while

2809
02:32:22,200 --> 02:32:25,640
Speaker 2: without another icon passing away. But you know, they don't

2810
02:32:25,680 --> 02:32:27,560
Speaker 2: live forever, do they. And that's part of the thing.

2811
02:32:27,800 --> 02:32:29,200
Speaker 2: When you look at a Jerry West, when you look

2812
02:32:29,200 --> 02:32:31,600
Speaker 2: at a Big Walden, you look at Willie Mays, you

2813
02:32:31,600 --> 02:32:34,120
Speaker 2: thought they would live forever, and in some degree they

2814
02:32:34,160 --> 02:32:37,280
Speaker 2: are going to live forever. Coming up, we wrap up

2815
02:32:37,280 --> 02:32:39,119
Speaker 2: the show. I'm going to tell my Hank Aaron story.

2816
02:32:39,120 --> 02:32:42,959
Speaker 2: It's tantamount to the Reggie Jackson story, and it plays

2817
02:32:43,000 --> 02:32:47,039
Speaker 2: into the dignities these men suffered while trying to make

2818
02:32:47,040 --> 02:32:50,320
Speaker 2: their way in America. That was a different time. I'm

2819
02:32:50,320 --> 02:32:52,320
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle. We're a company live from Las Vegas, Fox

2820
02:32:52,360 --> 02:32:54,560
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Tireck dot Com Studio. Just keep it locked.

2821
02:32:54,720 --> 02:32:57,080
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2822
02:32:58,480 --> 02:33:00,480
Speaker 2: We're wrapping it up on the Bernie fratt Our Show,

2823
02:33:00,800 --> 02:33:02,920
Speaker 2: coming to live from the Tirek dot Com studios here

2824
02:33:02,920 --> 02:33:06,480
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio. Before I go any further,

2825
02:33:06,760 --> 02:33:09,280
Speaker 2: I want to thank my broadcast team back in Los Angeles.

2826
02:33:09,360 --> 02:33:13,600
Speaker 2: They've been with me since eleven pm Pacific time on

2827
02:33:13,840 --> 02:33:17,480
Speaker 2: Saturday night. Mark Ramsey, my technical producer, turning all the dials,

2828
02:33:17,560 --> 02:33:21,480
Speaker 2: keeping us glued together, Shave Moganngarden, our executive producer, and

2829
02:33:21,520 --> 02:33:25,240
Speaker 2: of course Kevin Wired the chef on all the updates

2830
02:33:25,280 --> 02:33:29,200
Speaker 2: and other BAFA performance. You saw Reggie Jackson's dissrotation the

2831
02:33:29,240 --> 02:33:32,520
Speaker 2: other night. It was honest, it was raw, it was kurt,

2832
02:33:33,320 --> 02:33:36,960
Speaker 2: it was accurate. Yes, this is what these men had

2833
02:33:36,959 --> 02:33:39,560
Speaker 2: to endure. Well, in nineteen ninety one, a part of

2834
02:33:39,600 --> 02:33:43,080
Speaker 2: the staff of the National Sports Collectors Convention, the Great

2835
02:33:43,120 --> 02:33:46,800
Speaker 2: Mike burkas I, had the opportunity to spend an afternoon

2836
02:33:46,800 --> 02:33:49,560
Speaker 2: with Hank Aaron among many people, but Hank really really

2837
02:33:49,600 --> 02:33:52,640
Speaker 2: stood out. And you know, it was seventeen years removed

2838
02:33:52,640 --> 02:33:54,680
Speaker 2: from him passing Babe Ruth, and you know he took

2839
02:33:54,879 --> 02:33:56,520
Speaker 2: He got a lot of hate mail, a lot of

2840
02:33:56,680 --> 02:33:59,800
Speaker 2: racist hate mail. People did not want him breaking roots.

2841
02:34:00,320 --> 02:34:05,080
Speaker 2: But those weren't the worst indignities he ever endured. He

2842
02:34:05,160 --> 02:34:07,520
Speaker 2: told me, the worst indignity he ever endured actually took

2843
02:34:07,560 --> 02:34:10,760
Speaker 2: place in nineteen fifty one. Hank Arett hadn't even gotten

2844
02:34:10,800 --> 02:34:13,560
Speaker 2: to the major leagues yet, and he was playing for

2845
02:34:13,600 --> 02:34:17,600
Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Clowns of the Old Negro Leagues, and they

2846
02:34:17,600 --> 02:34:20,880
Speaker 2: were on a road trip in Washington, DC. And it's

2847
02:34:20,959 --> 02:34:24,600
Speaker 2: my understanding, if memory serves, the game was rained out

2848
02:34:24,640 --> 02:34:28,800
Speaker 2: that day. So, in sort of an odd gesture, the

2849
02:34:28,800 --> 02:34:31,400
Speaker 2: Clowns of the Indianapolis Clowns, a team that Hank was

2850
02:34:31,440 --> 02:34:34,920
Speaker 2: playing for, they were allowed to eat in a restaurant

2851
02:34:35,240 --> 02:34:37,800
Speaker 2: that was near the stadium the Old Griffith Stadium, where

2852
02:34:37,840 --> 02:34:40,040
Speaker 2: the old Washington Senter used to play back in the day,

2853
02:34:40,400 --> 02:34:43,000
Speaker 2: and they were allowed to have a meal there. Well

2854
02:34:43,120 --> 02:34:47,800
Speaker 2: after the players finished their meal and they were heading

2855
02:34:47,840 --> 02:34:53,760
Speaker 2: to the team bus, they heard an unmistakable sound coming

2856
02:34:53,800 --> 02:34:57,840
Speaker 2: from the building behind them where they had just exited.

2857
02:34:58,680 --> 02:35:03,199
Speaker 2: They heard the sound of dishes being smashed against the wall.

2858
02:35:04,640 --> 02:35:08,920
Speaker 2: And Hank Aaron and his teammates knew instantly what that

2859
02:35:09,000 --> 02:35:13,600
Speaker 2: had signified. They had to suffer this indignity, that because

2860
02:35:14,200 --> 02:35:18,560
Speaker 2: those dishes had been used by black people, they were

2861
02:35:18,600 --> 02:35:20,880
Speaker 2: going to be smashed. Hank Aaron went on to say

2862
02:35:20,879 --> 02:35:24,160
Speaker 2: that he believed that if they'd fed dogs off those dishes,

2863
02:35:24,200 --> 02:35:26,600
Speaker 2: they just would have watched them. That doesn't leave you.

2864
02:35:27,600 --> 02:35:30,280
Speaker 2: That is the kind of indignity that would stay with

2865
02:35:30,320 --> 02:35:34,840
Speaker 2: you your entire life. Hank Aaron endured that. And I'll

2866
02:35:34,879 --> 02:35:37,440
Speaker 2: never forget him telling me that story. And of course

2867
02:35:37,480 --> 02:35:39,600
Speaker 2: this is forty years later, this is nineteen ninety one.

2868
02:35:39,640 --> 02:35:42,160
Speaker 2: He's telling me the story. And Hank was such an

2869
02:35:42,240 --> 02:35:45,879
Speaker 2: elegant man, such a nice, gentle guy, not a big

2870
02:35:45,920 --> 02:35:48,800
Speaker 2: guy at all. He could have been more than five

2871
02:35:48,840 --> 02:35:52,320
Speaker 2: to eleven, and all the things he endured just to

2872
02:35:52,360 --> 02:35:54,440
Speaker 2: get to the Major Leagues, and then of course chasing

2873
02:35:54,480 --> 02:35:57,320
Speaker 2: Babe Ruth. But of all the things had happened that

2874
02:35:57,400 --> 02:35:59,959
Speaker 2: incident in nineteen fifty one when they were allowed to

2875
02:36:00,040 --> 02:36:03,000
Speaker 2: eat the team meal, but what ensued afterwards stuck with

2876
02:36:03,080 --> 02:36:06,840
Speaker 2: him very poignant. So when you hear Reggie Jackson talking

2877
02:36:06,840 --> 02:36:09,200
Speaker 2: about what he had to endure, and he's told those

2878
02:36:09,200 --> 02:36:11,920
Speaker 2: stories before, even told the story once about I believe

2879
02:36:11,959 --> 02:36:14,360
Speaker 2: they threatened to burn down the apartment he was living in.

2880
02:36:14,520 --> 02:36:18,120
Speaker 2: So look the crew. We did a great job talking

2881
02:36:18,160 --> 02:36:21,960
Speaker 2: about earlier in the evening the significance of this game

2882
02:36:22,040 --> 02:36:27,280
Speaker 2: at rick Wood Field because it allowed the two leagues,

2883
02:36:27,680 --> 02:36:31,720
Speaker 2: the Negro Leagues melding as in a sense with all

2884
02:36:31,760 --> 02:36:34,520
Speaker 2: the talent that came over into the major leagues after

2885
02:36:34,600 --> 02:36:37,520
Speaker 2: Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier in nineteen forty seven.

2886
02:36:37,560 --> 02:36:40,000
Speaker 2: I believe the Negro Leagues were disbanded in nineteen forty eight.

2887
02:36:40,440 --> 02:36:43,840
Speaker 2: But regardless, what that game did was set the stage

2888
02:36:44,240 --> 02:36:49,560
Speaker 2: and certainly cause or bring a remembrance to all the

2889
02:36:49,560 --> 02:36:51,560
Speaker 2: great players that came before. I said, this is the

2890
02:36:51,600 --> 02:36:53,280
Speaker 2: first time I went to Wrigley Field. I looked at

2891
02:36:53,320 --> 02:36:55,280
Speaker 2: the batter's box right the first time I went to Fenway,

2892
02:36:55,320 --> 02:36:58,200
Speaker 2: said wow, Ted Williams stood in that box. I went

2893
02:36:58,240 --> 02:37:00,360
Speaker 2: to Yankee Stadium, well, Babe Bruce stood in that box.

2894
02:37:00,360 --> 02:37:02,680
Speaker 2: First time I went to Tiger Staves at Ty Cobbs

2895
02:37:02,680 --> 02:37:05,320
Speaker 2: stood that box. Well. Imagine going to rickwood Field. I

2896
02:37:05,400 --> 02:37:07,840
Speaker 2: drove by it last year when I was in Birmingham

2897
02:37:08,320 --> 02:37:11,240
Speaker 2: in April of twenty twenty three on the way to Alabama,

2898
02:37:11,760 --> 02:37:13,680
Speaker 2: and I saw it and I said, wow, I'd love

2899
02:37:13,720 --> 02:37:16,320
Speaker 2: to go in there and see that. Josh Gibson stood

2900
02:37:16,360 --> 02:37:20,160
Speaker 2: in that box. Satchel Page stood on that mound. What

2901
02:37:20,280 --> 02:37:23,440
Speaker 2: an incredible event. I'll be back on these airwaves next

2902
02:37:23,560 --> 02:37:27,400
Speaker 2: Friday night at eleven pm Pacific with more high jinks.

2903
02:37:27,440 --> 02:37:29,520
Speaker 2: We will look forward to seeing it in that is

2904
02:37:29,560 --> 02:37:32,720
Speaker 2: going to do it for their Bernie Frattle Show. I

2905
02:37:32,720 --> 02:37:35,279
Speaker 2: want to thank my crew again, and I will also

2906
02:37:35,400 --> 02:37:38,680
Speaker 2: say stay tuned because up next on these airwaves the

2907
02:37:38,720 --> 02:37:41,680
Speaker 2: great Andy Furman Fox Sports Radio