1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ravens Presspass podcast. It is Thursday, August 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: twenty ninth. The Ravens opened the regular season a week 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: from today in Arrowhead against the Kansas City Chiefs. Before 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: we get to that point, we had a chance to 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: hear from Ravens general manager Eric Tacosta today. He talked 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: with reporters just before the season and here's what he 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: had to say. 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: Eric, and paring down the Rocks down to fifty three, 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: what were kind of some of the more difficult decisions. 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: That you feel you had to make to get down 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: a different. 12 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 4: Well, I mean we're strong in the secondary, and you know, 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 4: we stayed strong. We kept some additional guys we really 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 4: like our corner group and our safety group, and you know, 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 4: it would have been more challenging really honestly had Trayvon 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 4: Mullin stayed healthy and then Arthur Mallett, two really good 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 4: players who got hurt. So yeah, we're very strong there, 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 4: and you know, we had a few teams call us 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 4: about a few of our players, and you know, mentality 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 4: is just if you're strong, stay strong. And you know, 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 4: some years we've traded players and then you get a 22 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 4: couple of injuries and you look at it and you 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 4: kind of regret it now you're happy at draft time, 24 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 4: but it makes for you know, some challenges in season. 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 4: So we just decided this year that we liked our 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: team and we were going to stand put with the 27 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 4: players that we had. We felt there was a chance 28 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: we get some really good players to the practice squad 29 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 4: and we were fortunately able to do that. 30 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: But the rule that carried a third quarterback when you 31 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: may roster they're going to two quarterbacks. Is that sort 32 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 3: of an issue. 33 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 5: You'll deal with it if if your issue comes comes 34 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 5: up or you know what kind of plan you got 35 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 5: in place for that. 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 4: Well, we have three qbs, so you know, heaven forbid 37 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 4: we get an injury, and if that happens, then we'll 38 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 4: have to adjust the roster, you know, if we get 39 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 4: a long term injury at quarterback. You know, that was 40 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 4: an interesting dynamic. The rule passed at the owners meetings, 41 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 4: and then we were notified I believe on July eleventh 42 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 4: that the NFL p A had UH had not agreed 43 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 4: to that rule change. So it was a little complicated, 44 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: I think, especially for you know, teams that potentially drafted 45 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 4: the QB. 46 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 6: In the draft. 47 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 4: You know, it just we didn't find out. We found 48 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: out so late in the game. But in the end, we. 49 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 6: Have three qbs. 50 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 4: We just have one of the practice squad and we 51 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: have a mechanism for getting that player up if we 52 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 4: need to get them up. So I guess the one 53 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 4: scenario would be if both qbs got hurt in a game, 54 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 4: and we've dealt with that. We've dealt with that for 55 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 4: years up until last year, so so we'll be ready 56 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 4: to go regardless. 57 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 2: If you're happy your quarterback situation, I think there is 58 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: for rating quarterback who's the least earlier to the. 59 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 6: But you think you're pretty good with what you have there, Well. 60 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: We have an MVP, so I think we're pretty happy there. 61 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 4: With Josh, we have a really experienced guy. He's like 62 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 4: having another coach, you know, and he's great with Lamar. 63 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: The players love him, he's what, he's highly respected, he's 64 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 4: a talented player. So we love Josh. And with Devin, 65 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: we have a young player and he had his moments 66 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 4: and just certainly as we've seen with quarterbacks, a lot 67 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 4: of things that he can improve on and get better at, 68 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 4: and we believe you will. But yeah, we like the room. 69 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that we won't add another guy, which 70 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 4: we could do at some point. 71 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 6: You know. 72 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 4: It's like any position on the team will continue to 73 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: evaluate and look at players that become available and make 74 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 4: decisions based off of that. 75 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 7: Eric with the offensive line a lot of turnover this 76 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 7: off season, I'm sure it was a big point of 77 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 7: emphasis for you guys this offseason. How do you feel 78 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 7: about them now compared to going into the off season. 79 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think we're still there's a little 80 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 4: bit of an unknown just because we haven't played as 81 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: a unit in games. We've seen him in practice, you know, Tyler, 82 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: you know, getting hurt early on the camp probably wasn't ideal. 83 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: We're very excited to get him back, but you know, 84 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: not having a Pro Bowl center out there. That's kind 85 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 4: of the guy that drives the car in a lot 86 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 4: of ways on the offensive line. He's the guy that 87 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: typically will adjust the line and works hand in hand 88 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 4: with the quarterback on things like protections and stuff. Very 89 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: important position, and we're blessed to have one of the 90 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 4: best guys in the league. You know, I think across 91 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: the board, we made the decision to start to build 92 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 4: up the offensive line with young players and that was 93 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 4: a you know, unfortunately, with a salary cap league, you know, 94 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 4: you just can't build a team with veterans at every position. 95 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 6: If you could be. 96 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 4: Great, you know it would be you know, I always 97 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: tell people I grew up a Cowboys fan, and the 98 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety three Dallas Cowboys. It was one of the 99 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: great teams of all time that period with the Cowboys. 100 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 4: And if that team had been able to stay together forever, 101 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: they dodn't won Super Bowls every year, I think. But 102 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: there is a salary cap, and there is free agency 103 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: and things, and so you have to pay players. But 104 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: you also understand you've got a draft and you've got 105 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 4: to develop young players as well well. And we have 106 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: started to do that on the offensive line. Excited about Roger, 107 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 4: excited about four He's Andrew, excited for the future. We 108 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: may have a couple of hiccups across along the way, 109 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 4: but I think we've started to build from the bottom up, 110 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: and I think a year from that will be in 111 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:21,559 Speaker 4: a great place. 112 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 5: Did you know going into the offseason that would be 113 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 5: the play with that group, or if the rate value 114 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 5: had come up with a veteran, might. 115 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 6: You have adjusted. 116 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: It's hard because again, we went into this year knowing 117 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 4: that when you pay your quarterback, your MVP quarterback, and 118 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 4: make them the highest paid, you pay your basically the 119 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 4: heart of your defense, Roquan, make them the highest paid linebacker, 120 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 4: you pay arguably one of the top three defensive tackles 121 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 4: in football last year, justin Mattabek. You realize you're going 122 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 4: to have to make some changes in the way that 123 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 4: you do business, and that's going to affects. It's affecting 124 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 4: other teams. I could give you ten different teams that 125 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 4: are all dealing with that exact same phenomenon. 126 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 6: And you see it. 127 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: So it's just one of the realities of this business. 128 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 6: You know. 129 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 4: I can think of multiple teams right now that are 130 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 4: struggling with this dynamic and they're gonna have to probably 131 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 4: make major, massive changes in the next coming years. And 132 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: so we're aware of that. You just simply can't pay everybody. 133 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 4: And so we made the decision that we were gonna 134 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 4: go young on the offensive lines as best as we 135 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: could develop our guys. We've had a lot of success 136 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: developing offensive linemen in the past. I give you a 137 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 4: bunch of players that we took in the draft or 138 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 4: even got you know, off the streets, you know, and 139 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 4: those guys became good players for us. 140 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 8: When you were constructing this offensive line, How did having 141 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 8: a guy like Patrick Mutari affect the way that you 142 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 8: look at it? 143 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: Well, it's Patrick's great. He can play multiple spots. I mean, 144 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 4: he's played probably all five spots on the offensive line. 145 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 4: So having that, you know, flexible chess piece, I think 146 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 4: really helps us on game days especially. 147 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 6: You know, it's great. 148 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: He's like having an elite six man in basketball. You 149 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: know Kevin McHale when I was a Celtic Celtics fan 150 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 4: back in the eighties, who was the six man at 151 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 4: one point. You know, Patrick's kind of like that. He 152 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: can play all five spots and plays them. 153 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: Well, you're no stranger to the trades you made him 154 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: many times over the years. Do you feel like you 155 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: have the flexibility if there's a player that you want 156 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: at some point this season to. 157 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 6: Pull off the trade. 158 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 4: Well, we don't right now because I think we're probably 159 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 4: over the cap when you factor in practice squads and 160 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 4: things like that. But at some point we will have 161 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 4: to make some moves in the coming days and weeks, 162 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 4: and we've been planning for all that, you know, So 163 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 4: there's a lot of things we'll be able to do. 164 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 6: We will be cap. 165 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 4: Compliant, and we will have at least some money to 166 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 4: spend if a player is available that we think will 167 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 4: help us be the best team we can be. 168 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: You've been watching the preseason for a while now. 169 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 5: How much value do you get out of watching these games? 170 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 5: And do you think we're closer to ending at all 171 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 5: and just going to seventeen games altogether? 172 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know, Jerry, I don't have an opinion 173 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 4: on that, but I do think that for us, looking 174 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 4: at the practice, I mean, looking at the preseason games 175 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 4: is really about looking at the lower end roster players 176 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: and undrafted free agents and guys like that, and getting 177 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 4: a chance to. 178 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 6: Evaluate those guys. You know. 179 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 4: We know we're not going to have a chance to 180 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 4: look at really the starters and to get much of 181 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 4: a feel. It's not like the old days when guys 182 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 4: played in the first couple of preseason games, but it's 183 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 4: still a great opportunity for us to evaluate the talent 184 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 4: the back end of rosters, to look at those players 185 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 4: that we may not know a lot about, to assess 186 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: those players to help us, you know, find a couple 187 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 4: guys here and there. I mean, I think our pro department, 188 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 4: led by George Cokeenis and Marc as Sabada do as 189 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: good a job as anybody in the NFL. And I 190 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 4: think that's proven every single year. They find players at 191 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 4: all different levels of football, and we'll have a chance 192 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: to at some point probably churn our practice squad and 193 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: find some guys that we think are better than what 194 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 4: we have, and those guys will probably help us win 195 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 4: some football games. 196 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 5: Player making a team of both raide is that a 197 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 5: specific pride? And finding again that undrafted player to get 198 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 5: to the fifty three. 199 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 6: Uh. 200 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 4: You know, someone said maybe we had twenty out of 201 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 4: twenty one years we had a guy make it. That's 202 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 4: not necessarily like a streak that like we're trying to 203 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 4: uh address. I mean, even that one year, I don't 204 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 4: know who it was. Had I been aware of that streak, 205 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 4: I probably would have kept a guy just to. 206 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 6: Keep the streak going. 207 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 4: So I really didn't know about that streak. But in 208 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 4: this year, I just think with bo, I mean, that 209 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 4: guy just really earned it. And if you looked at 210 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 4: our games, you know, the Packers game, let's face it, it 211 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 4: was kind of a joke. It was hard to watch 212 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 4: in a lot of ways. I couldn't wait for the 213 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 4: game to be over really, just you know, to get 214 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 4: the pop Eyce chicken sandwich on the plane. But the 215 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 4: reality is like bo actually just played great and he 216 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: did it consistently. He won the job, he took the job, 217 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 4: and in the end he deserved to be on the team. 218 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 6: And that's what it was all about. 219 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: Intentioned Sally cafin compliance projection sites out of it between 220 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: two million to three and half million over. 221 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 2: Are you expecting his significant restructures? You have to make 222 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: more white sweeping moves to get cap rempliant where kind 223 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: of to. 224 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 6: Be comfortable for in. 225 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 5: Season moves in a potential trade that you pretend to 226 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 5: have an affinity for the season. 227 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: Just or are you expecting significant moves. 228 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 6: To get cap repliant and. 229 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 9: Buck Cup with the season? 230 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 4: Well I think I answered that, but I'll we have 231 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 4: some flexibility to make some moves and we will in 232 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 4: the next probably week be cap compliant. 233 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 6: A lot of different things we can do. 234 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 4: We've been pretty conservative and I'm blessed to have Nick Matteo, 235 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 4: who's a great salary cap guy in pat Moriarty, who's 236 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: kind of like the conciliarity of salary cap guys. So 237 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: we're in good shape upstairs, and we'll have a good plan. 238 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 6: Eric when you feel like where you are at. 239 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 5: Edge rusher and specifically with David Agado and Tavius Robinson. 240 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think both those guys really kind of 241 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 4: made a jump this year. I mean, David has really 242 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 4: been snake bitten by injuries. He's worked extremely hard. I mean, 243 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 4: you guys know, coming back from an ACL terrorist challenging 244 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 4: and this is a guy that did that in started 245 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 4: practice in probably in eight months. 246 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 6: Which is pretty remarkable. 247 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 4: He is showing me that he has got his quickness 248 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 4: back in his twitch and his suddenness. 249 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 6: Uh, he's playing with heavy. 250 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 4: Hands and I'm very excited about what he's gonna bring 251 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 4: to the team this year. And then Tavius is a 252 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 4: guy that just keeps getting better and he plays with 253 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 4: a passion. 254 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 6: He's very very physical, stout edgestter. 255 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 4: He plays with a relentless energy about him, you know, 256 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: and I think his best football is on the common. 257 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: He's going to be one of these guys that probably 258 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: a year from now, two years from now, we're going 259 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 4: to say it was one of our better fourth round picks. 260 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 7: Along those lines. 261 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 9: I don't think we asked you yet about a da 262 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 9: FE and the decision to pick up that fifth year option. 263 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 3: I guess, what have you seen to give him a 264 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: pretty significant check of money for twenty twenty five? 265 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 4: Well, that I did from what I've seen. You know, 266 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: we were kind of betting on the come with him. 267 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 4: He's a guy last year. You know, everybody wants to 268 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 4: kind of evaluate a player based on just a sack production, 269 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: which you know, I get that that's what we do 270 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 4: as fans. But this is a guy that impacts games 271 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: and played well last year, and we felt like he 272 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 4: was going to make another jump, and we've seen it 273 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: in the training camp. We've seen him every day you 274 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: guys are out there. You've seen the energy that he 275 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 4: plays with his ability to disrupt and make things happen. 276 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 4: And you know, it's it's always it's never easy when 277 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 4: you're talking about a fifth year option. That's why you 278 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 4: see so many fifth year options not get picked up 279 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 4: around the league. I mean, it's kind of surprising when 280 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 4: you think about it. We do for a living, and 281 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: yet we draft these guys and then we don't pick 282 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 4: up their fifty year option almost probably half the time, 283 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 4: I'm guessing without any I don't know the stats on that. 284 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: But but with o'dafe, we just felt like this was 285 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 4: a guy that has all the tools. 286 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 6: He plays hard, he's. 287 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 4: Got a great energy about him, he wants to be good, 288 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: he's got all the talent to be one of the 289 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 4: better guys at his position, and uh, and we just 290 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 4: decide to make a bet on him, and he was 291 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: gonna do it, and so far I feel really good 292 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 4: about it. 293 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 8: Is when you were deciding to make Rashaan Bateman a 294 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 8: part of the team's future and you're evaluating what you 295 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 8: thought could make him a success, how much of that 296 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 8: comes down to chemistry with Lamar and how do you 297 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 8: think they can continue building that. 298 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 4: It's just really an opportunity, you know, for him to 299 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 4: show what he can do consistently. I think a big 300 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 4: part of that is him staying on the field playing 301 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 4: catching the ball. He runs great routes, he's he's tough, he. 302 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 6: Wants to be good. 303 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 4: He he has the talent to do it, and uh, 304 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 4: he needs the opportunities. But and then half of that 305 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 4: is really getting the opportunities the other half of that 306 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 4: is staying healthy and doing being the best he can be. 307 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 4: But I am very bullish on Rashad. I've said that repeatedly. 308 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: It was a no brainer for us to extend him, 309 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 4: to give him the chance to be what we all 310 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 4: know he's going to become. He is a great kid, 311 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 4: an awesome guy. I love having him here in the building. 312 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: He's got a great opportunity and I believe he's going 313 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 4: to show the fans this year what he can be 314 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 4: on paper. 315 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 7: What do you like about the roster that you constructed. 316 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 4: We got a lot of guys that love the game. 317 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 4: They play hard, relentless. The camaraderie is great, the culture 318 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 4: is awesome. These guys really get along well together. And 319 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 4: we have a lot of really good young players. And 320 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 4: we're going to have more challenges because looking out, you know, 321 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: in the next couple of years, starting after this season, 322 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 4: we're going to have some really, really good players that 323 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: we can extend and it's gonna be challenging, but we're 324 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: gonna try to do it because we're going to try 325 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 4: to keep I think I said this back in twenty nineteen, 326 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 4: We're gonna try to keep as much of our young 327 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 4: talent here in Baltimore as we can. We can't do 328 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: it all the time, but that's a mission. 329 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 6: That we have. 330 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 4: And I love that we have so many good young 331 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 4: players and you know, they just keep emerging and we 332 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 4: keep seeing these guys develop in our training staff and 333 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 4: strength and conditioning staff and our coaches just they do 334 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 4: a great job taking young players and helping them be 335 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 4: the very best that they can be. And it's it's 336 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 4: great in one way, but in the other way, it's 337 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: it's hard because we can't keep every single player, but 338 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 4: we're gonna try to keep as many guys as we can, 339 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 4: and so I think our future is very bright a 340 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 4: lot of lines. 341 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: Brandon Stevens is going to be his fourth year. 342 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: Is he a guy that you're really watching this year 343 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 3: and say, hey, maybe this is somebody I want to 344 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: have this contract aggreciations with this year. 345 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 6: Yeah. 346 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 4: I mean, Brandon had as good a year last year 347 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 4: as anybody on the team, and I love his attitude, 348 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 4: love how he just takes care of his business as 349 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 4: a player, and I think he's gonna make another jump 350 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 4: this year. So again, you know, he's a guy that 351 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: you know, we certainly want to keep him here. Long term. 352 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: It's not without a challenge. He plays a position where 353 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 4: the best players are highly compensated. But we'll do our best. 354 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: And I just I admire so many things about Brandon. 355 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 4: This guy has had some adversity. He's overcome so many 356 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 4: different things, position changes, transfers and all these things, and 357 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 4: he's made himself one of the best corners in the NFL. 358 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 5: Sorry, Eric, one of the guys that you probably will 359 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 5: want to extend, you know, when time comes. 360 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: Call Hamilton, do you ever think back to that draft 361 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: and wonder, like, how did this guy still fall to you? 362 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 8: Guys? 363 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 6: You know, I just. 364 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: I credit Ozzie because it happened to him so many times. 365 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: We're just the best player fell to him, and it 366 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 4: happened to me. So I'm blessed we have been around 367 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: Ozzy and sat next to him, and maybe some of 368 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 4: that magic kind of fell off on us that year 369 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 4: and we were able to get who I consider to 370 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: be one of the best players in that draft class, 371 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 4: the Loner's life. 372 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 9: Hamilton, Steve was very versatile. John and the coaches all 373 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 9: talk about diversity, flexibility of the roster. Is that something 374 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 9: you guys are seeing in the college game and you're 375 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 9: emphasizing to the scouts hows you're developing the players when 376 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 9: they get here. Every every coach talks about it. 377 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 4: Well, I think versatility is a skill, you know, it's 378 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 4: a it's a it's a trait that we look for scouts. 379 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 4: So when we see a guy that can do multiple 380 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 4: things or be used in multiple. 381 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 6: Ways, they get graded for that. They get graded up 382 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 6: for that. 383 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 4: And so you know, if you have an offense from 384 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 4: the lineman who can play multiple spots, uh, you have 385 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: a dB who can play safety or corner or play 386 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 4: on the nickel, or you have a receiver who can 387 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 4: return kicks or do different things or be a gunner, 388 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 4: you get extra credit almost. 389 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 6: It just it just makes it. 390 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 4: It makes it easier for the club because we can 391 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 4: account for game day, and we can account for the 392 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: roster and the forty eight players and all those different things. 393 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 4: It's really peace of mind when you know you have 394 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 4: a guy who can do multiple things to get you 395 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: out of a game. Or you can create packages where 396 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 4: guys moving around quite a bit and keeping the offense 397 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: or the defense kind of on the heels because they're 398 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 4: not really or how that guy is going to be used. 399 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 6: So it makes you more. 400 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 4: Multiple in it, it makes it more confusing for the 401 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 4: other side of the ball. All that kind of factors in. 402 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 4: But I would say just I think one of the 403 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 4: things that our scouts have to do is really assess 404 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 4: the players versatility to do multiple things, and the most 405 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 4: versatile players end up being players that get moved up 406 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 4: the board a little bit. 407 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: Training keep what's it does you about Lamar's training camp 408 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: and what are your thoughts on you come off another mvpcson. 409 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 8: Going into this year. 410 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 4: Well, he looks fast as heck, you know, he looks 411 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 4: he looks really really fast. He's throwing the ball extremely well. 412 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: What I've noticed about Lamar really is more of an 413 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 4: intangible thing. His urgency as a leader, his urgency with 414 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 4: the other players. He's just really in tune with the 415 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 4: other players every single day in practice. He's so engaged 416 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 4: with the coaches, he's engaged with his teammates, you know, Heck, 417 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: he's engaged with me. We talk personnel. We meet after 418 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 4: practice just the other day talking about personnel. He's got 419 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 4: some great ideas and suggestions, and he just really wants 420 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 4: to win badly. And I think I'm seeing that, like 421 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 4: as a player. I've always known that, but now I'm 422 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 4: seeing his personality kind of come out more where I 423 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 4: can really get a sense like this guy is so 424 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 4: hyper focused on this season and really you know, working 425 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 4: to get a ring. 426 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 9: Is that meeting with you about personnel, Lamar? 427 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 3: Is that a new thing or you know. 428 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 6: Has that been going on? 429 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: I mean we would, we would always talk about players 430 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 4: and stuff, but you know, I think just Lamar sees 431 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to speak for Lamar, but 432 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 4: I think we all see an opportunity for us to 433 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 4: be a good team this year, and we want to 434 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 4: do it this year. And and that's just there's so 435 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 4: many different layers to that. It's what have we done 436 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 4: in the offseason, what are we doing in training camp? 437 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 4: How can we be the best team on Sundays? You 438 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 4: know other players out there that might help us. Where 439 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 4: are we strong, where are we weak? What can we 440 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 4: improve on? There's just so many different things. But again, 441 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 4: like I just I feel an urgency with Lamar. I 442 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 4: mean it's great. I love it, you know, That's how 443 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 4: I am, And so I really appreciate that quality and 444 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 4: others and just the urge to get better and the 445 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 4: daily just improve on things. That's how you win as 446 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 4: a team. 447 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: Likely if you're vision being a breakout player this year's 448 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: sort of He's a guy can get down fielding, also has. 449 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 5: Good hands and tight and had great training camp. 450 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 4: What do you seeking the industry, Well, he's I love Zay. 451 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's a playmakers. He's got, you know, 452 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 4: right running ability. He's similar to a receiver in some ways, 453 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 4: strong after the catch, you know. I mean that's something 454 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: that going back to college when I evaluated him, So 455 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 4: one thing you really kind of hung your hat on. 456 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 4: This guy was dangerous with the football in his hands. 457 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 4: He's another guy like I've seen in an urgency this 458 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: year with him, his leadership, interaction with other players. You know, 459 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 4: he's he's kind of changed from being a young player 460 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 4: to being from being a rookie to being a vet. 461 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 4: And I just feel like he and Mark Andrews will 462 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: be the best tandem at their position in the league 463 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 4: and really create a lot of problems for opposing defensive coordinators. 464 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 7: That's that's a huge blow off the field, but even 465 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 7: football wise, to lose a coach with that status and 466 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 7: bring everything he brings to the table right before the season. 467 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 7: What does that do. 468 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: For this team? 469 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, it's just a hard one. I mean, 470 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 4: Joe is just a great friend of mine. You know, 471 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 4: if you've seen practice, you know I always stand behind 472 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: usually next to Joe and we talk about you know, 473 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 4: football and just life and things. And his ability with 474 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 4: the younger players is just was a special thing watching 475 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 4: him develop these guys. You know, he could push, but 476 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 4: he could love And that's what makes a great coach, 477 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 4: great teacher. Think about the great teachers we've all had, right, 478 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: the best teachers will push you, but they could also 479 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 4: love you up too. 480 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 6: When you were struggling. And that's Joe d. 481 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 4: It's a tough one. You know, it's a tough one. 482 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 4: It's a tough one for all of us here, you know. 483 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 4: That's what I have to Saynd that Eric, you. 484 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: Have had conversations with the coaches, the fact that this 485 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: season you're fifteen practice squad players will be seen throughout 486 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: the league forward hard knocks and there's a possibility of 487 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: many of maybe taking off. 488 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 6: That list there. 489 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: If you guys had conversation, the fact that they haven't. 490 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 6: I don't think so. 491 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, we evaluate the practice squad guys, 492 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 4: We don't use HBO to evaluate, and we watch the tape. 493 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 4: I mean, so we're gonna we're gonna know the players, 494 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: and you know, we'll know everybody else's players too, and 495 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 4: so you know, we you know, we'll get a guy 496 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 4: post once or twice a year. We'll post a couple guys. 497 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 4: But in the en, I think teams are really comfortable 498 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 4: with their own players. You know, it's gonna be an 499 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 4: interesting dynamic with hard knocks, and I'm not exactly sure 500 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 4: what that's gonna be. I don't know how how much 501 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 4: focus will be on the practice squad guys. If it's 502 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 4: up to me, they won't be much. But I don't 503 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 4: see it as a as a major hindrance for us 504 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 4: in terms of keeping our players. 505 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 5: Sometimes you hear fans say this team can't prove anything 506 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 5: else to me during the regular season. It's all about 507 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 5: what happens in January. You know, what do they do 508 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 5: at the end. How do you kind of balance that 509 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 5: urgency to win the Super Bowl with knowing all the 510 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 5: steps you have to go through to even have that chance. 511 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's an excellent question. I mean I 512 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 4: would say I was thinking about this the other day, 513 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 4: like if I had to just rank some of the 514 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 4: best Ravens teams, you know, you'd put two thousand on there. 515 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 4: But it's a one sided team, right, And then you 516 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: go two thousand and six. That was a hell hell 517 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 4: of a team, you know. Twenty eleven was a great team, 518 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 4: one of the best. Twenty nineteen, twenty twenty three, those 519 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 4: are like really strong teams. The twenty twelve team we 520 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 4: got hot late. You know, there's a lot of factors 521 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 4: that really go into a team winning the Super Bowl 522 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 4: and in the end, and I know this because I'm 523 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 4: at the Senior Bowl every single year, there's only one 524 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: team ends up being happy. There's a lot that goes 525 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 4: into that. So my goal is to build a team 526 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 4: that has talent in every position, that is flexible enough 527 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:42,959 Speaker 4: to withstand injuries, that we have depth to get us 528 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 4: through a long season and to make the playoffs and 529 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 4: to be sort of ascending at that point. It's really 530 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 4: hard to project what's going to happen, and it's it's 531 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 4: mentally challenging too for me. You know, it is tough. 532 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 4: You know, I think we've been maybe had the best 533 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 4: record twice in the last six years five years, and 534 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 4: we didn't make it to the end. That's tough, But 535 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 4: I am proud of our team what we've accomplished. We 536 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 4: haven't accomplished our ultimate goal. But I don't really subscribe 537 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 4: to the idea that your season's a failure if you 538 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 4: don't win the Super Bowl. I know a lot of 539 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 4: people do. If I did that, I'd probably be in 540 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 4: a mental institution. So I don't feel that way. I 541 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 4: measure the success of a season and a lot of 542 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 4: different things, super Bowl being one of those things, but 543 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 4: certainly not the only criteria that I would use to 544 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 4: judge a season. 545 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 9: Two more, you talked last year, maybe you talked about 546 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 9: how the Lamar Jackson contract was going to change how you. 547 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 4: Could build the roster in the future, thinking of Brandon 548 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 4: Stephen some of the other players. 549 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 6: How is your approach to kind. 550 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 3: Of in the season negotiating because it has it changed 551 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: in terms of trying. 552 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 6: To negotiate with some of these extensions in the season. 553 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: Does that strategy change since the Jackson contract to now? 554 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 6: I don't know that it changes that. 555 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,239 Speaker 4: I think it's just right player, right price, you know, 556 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 4: I mean, you got a negotiate a contract that works 557 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 4: for you and work for the player, and sometimes you're 558 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 4: under parameters that might make it more challenging. You just 559 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 4: simply just can't afford to have the highest paid players 560 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 4: across the board at their position. You know, you can 561 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 4: have some, but I think if you study the league, 562 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 4: you're seeing the impact that it has on rosters and 563 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 4: what that means, whether that's holdouts or players getting terminated, 564 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 4: quality players getting terminated. It's just you just fundamentally, financially, 565 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 4: you can't do it. You can't have ten players making 566 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 4: twenty million dollars a year. You just can't do it 567 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 4: on a two hundred and fifty eight million dollars salary cap. 568 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 4: So you have to look at it and have a strategy. 569 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 4: And every team operate rates with a different strategy how 570 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 4: they pay players, what's. 571 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 6: Important to them. 572 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 4: We try to be balanced across the board, and we 573 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 4: try to pay our best players as much as we can, 574 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 4: understanding that sometimes we just can't keep every single player. 575 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 4: If we could, the roster would be different, but it's not. 576 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 4: We understand that it is challenging sometimes to let really 577 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 4: good players leave, but that's the business. 578 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 6: We're in. 579 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: Quarterbacks specifically, Like it was pretty obvious that you know, 580 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 3: giving Lamar's accomplishments and talent he was gonna we sent 581 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 3: the quarterback market that are a top across the seem 582 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: like every time a quarterback gets a second contract, they're 583 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: like the highest big player ever. All of a sudden, 584 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 3: do you think that's going to continue to be reality 585 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 3: across the league? We should, you know, kind of look 586 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: in the future at the landscape or at some point 587 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 3: is that going to bounce back and either going to 588 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 3: say we can't afford to keep doing this with if 589 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 3: it's done an MVP. 590 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 6: Kind of guy. Well, we paid Lamar. 591 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 4: We made Lamar the highest paid quarterback because we felt 592 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 4: he was the best quarterback in the league. He won 593 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 4: an MVP now two MVPs, and I'm blessed. We're very 594 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 4: happy that we did that. Generally speaking, I don't necessarily 595 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 4: subscribe to the theory that every time you do a 596 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 4: negotiation with a quality player they need to be the 597 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 4: highest paid player at their position, and I think in 598 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 4: a lot of cases we haven't done that. It's challenging 599 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 4: at times. There isn't typically an expectation when you negotiate 600 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 4: with agents that they want the market to work that way. 601 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 6: I think it's up to the club. It's up to 602 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 6: the individual club. The hard part is that. 603 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 4: When a deal is done, good or bad, that goes 604 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 4: into the library of deals that get done and it's 605 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 4: used good or bad by clubs and by agents. We 606 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 4: try to be responsible with our deals. We try to 607 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 4: be respectful of the player's position. But we're going to 608 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 4: pay the players what we can't afford to pay the players, 609 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 4: and most of our money every single year we're going 610 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 4: to be over the cap, cash over cap most years. Now, 611 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 4: there is always going to be a day of reckoning. 612 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 4: You can't be a cash overcap every single year. There's 613 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 4: going to have to be a purge at some point. 614 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: So we understand that. But you know, I've seen these contracts. 615 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 4: Every club has to operate the way they. 616 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 6: Want to operate. 617 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 4: You know, we operate the way we're going to operate, 618 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 4: and we look out and we know we have a 619 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 4: lot of really good players to pay, and every dollar 620 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 4: that we can save on a contract is a dollar 621 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 4: that we can use a really another, really good player. 622 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 6: That's my theory. 623 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, you're listening to the Ravens Press Pass podcast. 624 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: Also make sure you head over to the Lounge podcast feed. 625 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: We had quarterback Lamar Jackson on the podcast this week. 626 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: He shared some really good insight into his mindset, his mentality, 627 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: and the urgency that he has going into this season. 628 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: And listen to that right here and you're podcast feed 629 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: just head over to the Lounge podcast make sure you 630 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: hit that subscribe button here and on the press Pass feed. 631 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. We'll talk with you 632 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: again later this week.