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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: Good morning, guys or lunchtime. Why are you shaking your
Speaker 1: head already? Nick? Seriously, if you don't like it, you
Speaker 1: can get up and walk away, very simple. All right there.
Speaker 1: I mean, no one's forced to be here, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, it's just shaking his head. As soon as
Speaker 1: he started speaking, he started shaking. He says, But all right, well,
Speaker 1: today is a traveled for the Cowboys. We are all
Speaker 1: headed to San Francisco for the first preseason game, which
Speaker 1: is tomorrow. But in the meantime, I think we're we
Speaker 1: have some things to discuss prior to I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not a I wish we didn't have this show today,
Speaker 1: but we do. Honestly, what a great way to get
Speaker 1: people hyped up to listen to today's podcast. All right, well,
Speaker 1: let's start off with the news. Robert Quinn he fractured
Speaker 1: his hand earlier this week, we thought, oh well, let's
Speaker 1: see how long he's out. The what they said, the
Speaker 1: doctors and all that said he should be ready to
Speaker 1: go for Week one. Then yesterday the news comes out
Speaker 1: that the NFL has suspended Robert Quinn for two games,
Speaker 1: and that came as a surprise for some of us.
Speaker 1: Some other people maybe have started hearing about that for
Speaker 1: a while, But just wanted to get your thoughts on
Speaker 1: what this means for the Cowboys and what they're trying
Speaker 1: to do at defensive end. All. See, we still have
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence recovering from the surgery, you got Tyrone Crawford
Speaker 1: from the hip injury. Then you have m. Randy Gregory.
Speaker 1: That's another one, Randy Gregory, who you still don't know
Speaker 1: what's happening with him. He's suspended indefinitely. So what's going
Speaker 1: on here with this position? And what do you think
Speaker 1: this change? How does this change the game for the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: Of the ten, eleven, twelve, whatever the number is Pro
Speaker 1: bowlers on this roster, how many how many of them
Speaker 1: do you feel great about for Week one? Right now?
Speaker 1: That was my question yesterday yesterday's show, Right and it
Speaker 1: seemed like across the table, everybody is kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm good. Well, but real quick, I feel the same way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really do, like I feel fine, But it is
Speaker 1: it is funny that what Travis Frederick kind of a
Speaker 1: question mark Zach Martin dealing with the back, DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: hasn't practiced, Byron Jones hasn't practiced, Robert Quinn has now suspended.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get it. Running back isn't here. The
Speaker 1: running back it's not here. While yeah, the receiver's not practicing.
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot. But my point is, my point
Speaker 1: is that there is a lot of just not being here.
Speaker 1: And I'm I get your point, Dave, that you think
Speaker 1: most of these guys will will still be there once
Speaker 1: the games actually start. I'm just a believer in. I
Speaker 1: do think whether you play him in the preseason or not,
Speaker 1: I do think there's a reason why you do these practices.
Speaker 1: You start building the chemistry, you start building the because
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a new offensive coordinator. He's trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how he's gonna call this thing and
Speaker 1: what things work and what things don't. And you take
Speaker 1: a guy out and put another guy in and it
Speaker 1: changes sometimes the dynamic of how something works. And so
Speaker 1: I just look at all that and I think that
Speaker 1: this is going to be one of those years where
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and you've seen this, You've probably seen this
Speaker 1: before with individual players or with a team, but things
Speaker 1: don't really start clicking until week three or four. You'll
Speaker 1: see that a lot of times with veteran teams because
Speaker 1: a lot of them don't do a lot during the preseason,
Speaker 1: and so the first couple of weeks it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like it's really flowing, it doesn't seem like it's really clicking.
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys might be in for a little
Speaker 1: bit of that. Good thing for them. They're playing a
Speaker 1: couple of teams at the beginning of the season that
Speaker 1: are not as tough as some of the teams are
Speaker 1: going to play a little later, at least on paper,
Speaker 1: as far as what we've what we think of those teams,
Speaker 1: and so maybe the Cowboys can withstand it. But I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like the fact that these guys
Speaker 1: are all missing right now because I think it's important.
Speaker 1: I just think the vast majority of these dominoes will
Speaker 1: fall into place before September eighth. Obviously Quinn will not.
Speaker 1: Can we know he's out for two games? Question mark
Speaker 1: on Tyrone? Yeah yeah, And but the vast majority of
Speaker 1: these big name players I think will be where they're
Speaker 1: supposed to be, which is the field for the Giants game.
Speaker 1: So I'm still not that worried about it. I don't
Speaker 1: think the Quinn situation. You know, he hasn't looked that
Speaker 1: great out here. I mean, it's early, he's a veteran,
Speaker 1: He's going up against Tyron Smith. It's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to look great. But I do think that they were
Speaker 1: counting on him to be a guy that could, you know,
Speaker 1: provide some stabil in an experience to that position, even
Speaker 1: on the opposite side of of d Law. So, but
Speaker 1: there's nothing that they haven't done before. I mean, this
Speaker 1: team has got plenty of defensive guys that gets suspended
Speaker 1: for the first couple of games seventeen since seventeens, that
Speaker 1: includes multi multiple offenders and all that stuff. But since
Speaker 1: win what year fourteen? Rolando multiple times, nine, Randy multiple times,
Speaker 1: Scandric Irving multiple times, Marcus DeMarcus, gregor um Hardy, did
Speaker 1: Henry Melton have one too? I don't. It's there's a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think Henry Melton did, but
Speaker 1: it's a lot. It's too many. But that's just the defense. Well,
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn's situation, it's kind of interesting because once you
Speaker 1: see what his agent put out as an estatement of
Speaker 1: what happened, it was about to medication that he takes
Speaker 1: for seizures, and something happened in the pharmacy. There was
Speaker 1: some kind of cross contamination from another medication and there
Speaker 1: was a percentage of it that got in there that
Speaker 1: popped up that is used to cover up of substance
Speaker 1: enhance him and abuse or whatever it's called. And there's
Speaker 1: a battle there of how things went down. And then
Speaker 1: saying that the NFL has said they believed he was innocent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they still suspended him two times. Now. I've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of people asking on Twitter about this and asking
Speaker 1: if he is innocent, why doesn't he challenge it and
Speaker 1: try to five for maybe just one game suspension or
Speaker 1: no games at all. Do you guys know how this
Speaker 1: possibly can work or what happened. Has challenged it, He
Speaker 1: has appealed it. This was in April. He's appealed that
Speaker 1: usually it's a four game. I think they've reduced it
Speaker 1: already to a two games, so this is kind of
Speaker 1: it's unprecedented really that it's a two game suspension, so
Speaker 1: which when we heard about it, that was our first thought. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mainly it can't be for PDS because that's always four
Speaker 1: and then he got two. So that tells you they
Speaker 1: already reduced what they normally don't reduce. Similar to the
Speaker 1: Scandrick thing, I think yeah, because and we talked about that,
Speaker 1: it was you know, they changed the policy not to
Speaker 1: include his you know what was in his test, and
Speaker 1: he got it reduced. That's the thing. They do a
Speaker 1: great job of keeping this stuff under wraps because you know,
Speaker 1: we just heard about it yesterday. Pretty much everybody just
Speaker 1: heard about it yesterday except for Robert Quinn and his people.
Speaker 1: They've been going back and forth with the league about
Speaker 1: this since April. They took the time his legal team,
Speaker 1: like you know, subpoenat or whatever the records for this
Speaker 1: pharmacy to look at this stuff, so that gives you
Speaker 1: an idea of how long they've been doing this. So
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty set it too. Can have a
Speaker 1: long conversation about the league's policies and their standard of
Speaker 1: doing businesses and how inconsistent it is. It's not going
Speaker 1: to change a whole lot between now and when Robert
Speaker 1: Quinn has to serve his suspension. Unfortunately. All right, well,
Speaker 1: let's move on and start talking about tomorrow's game, which
Speaker 1: people are excited. One of the main questions that come
Speaker 1: to us when we start having preseason games is what
Speaker 1: kind of starters are you gonna be playing? So who
Speaker 1: do you expect to see playing in this game? As
Speaker 1: far as the starter if you are healthy, I think
Speaker 1: you'll see just about everybody, not for a long time,
Speaker 1: probably a series or you know, a set number of plays,
Speaker 1: eight to ten plays. But you know, we get to
Speaker 1: watch the walkthroughs. We're privileged in that regard. And it
Speaker 1: sure looked like a lot of starters were getting some
Speaker 1: last minute work last night when they came out here.
Speaker 1: So that seems to be Jerry's dak. I don't think
Speaker 1: we won't see Zach Martin. We won't see Amari Cooper.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if they're gonna go to Santa Clara.
Speaker 1: I'm Amari Cooper's definitely not who you're five linemen to
Speaker 1: start the game, Tyron Smith, Connor Williams, Travis Frederick, Xavier Suaphilo,
Speaker 1: and Lyle Collins. I think the whole starting offense minus
Speaker 1: Amari Zach and shocked well Zeek obviously, and then m
Speaker 1: and then Witten. I don't think Witten's gonna play. I'll
Speaker 1: be shocked if Travis Frederick plays. Yeah, Okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: do you think you'll play faced off? I think the
Speaker 1: starters will get eight to ten snaps. I'd be great.
Speaker 1: I just would be surprised that they I mean, he
Speaker 1: just did one on one the other day for like
Speaker 1: like this week. I believe for the first time Travis
Speaker 1: Frederick himself is the one that said one on one
Speaker 1: is stupid and doesn't really apply to centers though, like
Speaker 1: he was like, I hate that drill. I don't encounter
Speaker 1: those situations in football ever, so I don't like doing it.
Speaker 1: So the center's usually double in on somebody. It's rare
Speaker 1: that he's got just a guy that's kind of isolating
Speaker 1: him in space. So I think, I I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: we're gonna sit next to each other. I'll own up
Speaker 1: to it if I'm wrong. But I think the vast
Speaker 1: majority of the starting offense is now serious. I think
Speaker 1: that'd be great. I just would just the way they've
Speaker 1: handled the Frederick thing, it would it would surprise me
Speaker 1: if he if he was out there, But I guess
Speaker 1: we'll find out. It won't find out right here. It
Speaker 1: won't be a lot that would be my guests, but
Speaker 1: baby steps. The point is you just get to see
Speaker 1: some of these guys just get It's it's more of
Speaker 1: just them getting a taste a little bit. You're not
Speaker 1: you're there at least as the Cowboys will get it.
Speaker 1: They're evaluating those guys that are gonna be coming in
Speaker 1: after them, like they know what these guys are. They're
Speaker 1: just giving them a little taste to kind of get
Speaker 1: him in the flow a little bit. It's not it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be much and the first preseason game, so
Speaker 1: I hope Travis does get some time. I think it's
Speaker 1: important for him to do that, and it's probably important
Speaker 1: for them to see some tape of him doing the
Speaker 1: real thing. And you know, they said before practices even
Speaker 1: started that he had the full go. They didn't need
Speaker 1: to be cautious with him. Obviously you want to be
Speaker 1: if you need to be, but things you got two
Speaker 1: more preseason games where those vets will play, and they'll
Speaker 1: play substantially in the third game. So this game, again,
Speaker 1: just give him a little taste. I want to see
Speaker 1: if he can handle a possession before I worry about
Speaker 1: making him play staff. Yeah. Right, the earlier you can
Speaker 1: find out, I guess, the better, you know, I think. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good. Then, So okay, let's go around the table
Speaker 1: and tell me who would be a guy that you
Speaker 1: are wanting to keep your eye on on tomorrow's game.
Speaker 1: Nick Um, I'll say Jalen Joel because because you said
Speaker 1: the whole camp and we're writing a piece about that
Speaker 1: later today and I haven't written mine yet, But Jalen
Speaker 1: Jelks Uh, he's gonna especially with all the defensive end
Speaker 1: question marks that we have. I think that that he'll
Speaker 1: get an opportunity to play in the like second quarter
Speaker 1: and then into the third. So guys, when you when
Speaker 1: you have starters that are banged out, those guys have
Speaker 1: to play early and then they're gonna play extensive. So
Speaker 1: I see a lot of seventy for Jalen Jelks. I
Speaker 1: want to see if he can get around the end
Speaker 1: and use you know, create some havoc those long arms.
Speaker 1: That's my guy. I'm right there with you. I would
Speaker 1: say another defensive end. Dorn's armstrong, and I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna get a ton of playing time. He'll maybe the
Speaker 1: guys start out, probably he's gonna start, and he'll probably
Speaker 1: when the other started to start coming out, He's probably
Speaker 1: gonna stay in a little while longer. Um, so you
Speaker 1: may get to see maybe a half of Dorn's armstrong.
Speaker 1: I want to see how he matches up against other
Speaker 1: competition and the guys out here, because out here he's
Speaker 1: looked really good. In my opinion, Again, a defensive end
Speaker 1: doesn't have to win every time. Defensive end wins one
Speaker 1: time per game throughout a season, he's gonna be a
Speaker 1: pro bowler. So I want to see if he can
Speaker 1: do that. Can you get a win? Can you get
Speaker 1: one win this week? And I'll tell me a lot
Speaker 1: about what I'm thinking or what I'm seeing out here
Speaker 1: and how it translates to an actual game against other competition.
Speaker 1: These games, like we just said, you know, even if
Speaker 1: we see the starters, it won't be much. This is
Speaker 1: where you want to watch the middle and back into
Speaker 1: the depth chart for sure, because they're going to have
Speaker 1: to do most of the heavy lifting. You inspired me
Speaker 1: on this one, Derek. I want to watch Dalton Schultz
Speaker 1: because Witten might not play at all, and if he doesn't,
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin's not going to play the whole game. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, he's not this established vet, but I think
Speaker 1: he's earned that where he doesn't have to play all
Speaker 1: sixty minutes of this game. So I would have expect
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz to get a long look, you know, a
Speaker 1: few quarters at least. Then we'll see just how far
Speaker 1: he's come. No better time to see if you're a
Speaker 1: good blocker than going against real competition. And we know
Speaker 1: how much they like to run twelfth personnel, which is
Speaker 1: one of it. One running back, two tight ends, which
Speaker 1: means that even with the starters, he's ill be gonna
Speaker 1: be out there something. Yeah, I would agree. Now, who
Speaker 1: would be a guy that you think might surprise all
Speaker 1: of us? M oh, I know I'll kind of gift too,
Speaker 1: because I like to throw them together, father and son,
Speaker 1: Mike and Joe Jackson. Okay, I'm just saying like I
Speaker 1: just and I probably maybe maybe I've been a little hot. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think Nick's just been a
Speaker 1: little lower than everybody else on Michael, like you you said, Mike,
Speaker 1: you think Mike Jackson has been okay. I think he's
Speaker 1: actually been pretty good. It wasn't like you, No, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about he's got really long arms. I don't really
Speaker 1: I think, I know. I think Mike Jackson and Joe
Speaker 1: Jackson I think have been pretty good out here, and
Speaker 1: I'm interested again to see them against other competitions because
Speaker 1: both of them are guys that, yeah, you liked their
Speaker 1: draft picks, but they're not guaranteed a spot. But I
Speaker 1: think they're right there on that cusp. If they can
Speaker 1: make some plays in this kind of game and surprise
Speaker 1: you with them with one big play, then it kind
Speaker 1: of pushes them up into that realm of yeah, they
Speaker 1: gotta make the scene. They need to make this team right.
Speaker 1: So those are two guys I think could surprise you.
Speaker 1: They do it every day out here, so I assume
Speaker 1: one of them will do it in the game. Either
Speaker 1: John Vey Johnson or Jalen Guyden is going to get
Speaker 1: behind somebody. Is John Vay surprise at this point, he
Speaker 1: won't be for us, but I guess for fans out there.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it will be if this is Jake
Speaker 1: it to a game. If this is your first look
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys and he brings in some forty fifty
Speaker 1: sixty yard catch, Yeah, I think that'll catch people's eye.
Speaker 1: Eric Rodgers, Yeah no, you don't. Neither do fans. Fourteen
Speaker 1: He was great out here. Oxnard for never did it
Speaker 1: in a game. He never did anything, and I think
Speaker 1: he plays in the Arena League now. But but John
Speaker 1: Vay has been He's been way more involved than any
Speaker 1: guy I can remember. Like we talk about those kind
Speaker 1: of guys all the time. Those guys usually are doing
Speaker 1: that against second, third team guys. John Vay has been
Speaker 1: out here running with the ones a lot. Here's the thing, though,
Speaker 1: is well, we'll see. He might get to run with
Speaker 1: the ones for all I know, but he's gonna it's
Speaker 1: gonna hinder him too, because he's gonna be playing with
Speaker 1: the second and third offense, like it's gonna be Mike
Speaker 1: White running for his life because Jake Campos is trace
Speaker 1: Jason after the defensive end, like preseason football gets ugly
Speaker 1: in the second half because you got guys that aren't
Speaker 1: that good. So if he can do it, but with
Speaker 1: a lesser cast than you know. That being said, it
Speaker 1: happens all the time. The offensive line can't block anybody
Speaker 1: in the second and third, you know, second half. But
Speaker 1: it's not like Michael Strahan's living on the on the
Speaker 1: Cowboys side of the ball, Like it's not like he
Speaker 1: gets eight, eight to ten sacks, you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: But I think we've also noticed though that that well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I just think it's I
Speaker 1: just think it's the Cowboys offensive line has been so bad.
Speaker 1: I don't remember a bunch of defensive ents just getting
Speaker 1: three to four sacks in the second half. Like, wow,
Speaker 1: he's good. Which also, you know, as much as we
Speaker 1: as much as we talk about them not making the team,
Speaker 1: like you'd like to think that the Mitch Hyatts of
Speaker 1: the world could maybe hold their own against you know,
Speaker 1: back into the depth chart competition. That's the one thing
Speaker 1: Colombo said right after the draft. I remember asking him about, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got some good guys in free agency there and
Speaker 1: the college free agents. He was like, well, when we
Speaker 1: get to the preseason games, we're now going to be
Speaker 1: able to block a little bit in the second half.
Speaker 1: That was his first statement so we'll see. Now Brandon
Speaker 1: Knight is he's banged up the field, not going to play.
Speaker 1: So it's high at and that is like the only
Speaker 1: guy they got now high at night. They had to
Speaker 1: sign Poy's gone. I know that they signed him, but
Speaker 1: now he's gone. They had to sign a guy from
Speaker 1: Michigan who's got like his name three names. I can't remember.
Speaker 1: The guy they signed on like Wednesday is going to
Speaker 1: play on Saturday. Welcome to the NFL. That's fun. So
Speaker 1: we'll see. But if one of those receivers takes it
Speaker 1: to the game, I think it qualifies as a surprise.
Speaker 1: William William called him off the bus guy. Yeah he
Speaker 1: did the tackle. Oh yeah, he's like what is he
Speaker 1: like six seven or something. I pride myself like, if
Speaker 1: you're on the team, I know your name. I pride
Speaker 1: myself on that. And I can't remember four Juwan Bushell Beatty,
Speaker 1: I think something like that. Who would be your guy
Speaker 1: that might surprise here? Um, I was gonna say one
Speaker 1: of the receivers guiding, and uh, John Vy mainly guiding
Speaker 1: because he's struggled a little bit more, I guess than
Speaker 1: John Vey. But um, Reggie Davis too. You know, in
Speaker 1: in that group, he's gonna get some some playing time
Speaker 1: there wide receiver. So who's gonna surprise me? I think
Speaker 1: Davis would surprise me if he actually it, took it
Speaker 1: to the field and played well, what nothing, I'm just laughing,
Speaker 1: So he would actually kind of surprise me. I think so,
Speaker 1: because I think Reggie Davis is the guy that is
Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of, not John Vy, because John
Speaker 1: Vey's got speed, then we don't really see that all ton,
Speaker 1: But Reggie Davis the practice squad from a year ago
Speaker 1: and now you know an he weighs one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty seven pounds and he comes out here and you know,
Speaker 1: and we'll see. But if he can continue to make plays,
Speaker 1: I think that would be surprising. I'll give you another
Speaker 1: one that might surprise me a little bit because I've
Speaker 1: seen kind of this. There have been moments out here
Speaker 1: where he's flashed, but it hasn't been consistent a receiver
Speaker 1: as Cedric Wilson like. There have been some days where
Speaker 1: he's had some big plays and then he'll just kind
Speaker 1: of disappear. You don't see anything from him for a
Speaker 1: couple of days, and all of a sudden he'll flash,
Speaker 1: So it wouldn't it would be kind of surprising that
Speaker 1: he would do it. But but you've seen flashes of it.
Speaker 1: So I think that's a guy that maybe might get
Speaker 1: into a game like this and and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden hit you for a big play and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson's now in the mix, right, I could tell
Speaker 1: who's gonna be surprised in the press box. The whole
Speaker 1: whole press box will be surprised. The Cowboys go down,
Speaker 1: score touchdown, and they make the extra point and everyone
Speaker 1: but he's gonna get all the kicks. I believe in
Speaker 1: this game. I hope. So I really don't want to
Speaker 1: have to go through a week a kick or talk
Speaker 1: if he misses. Overall, maher hasn't been terrible, but he
Speaker 1: hasn't been he I know, it's just the way you
Speaker 1: say it. Overall, no, But but think about it like this.
Speaker 1: This is just same way in a game. If if
Speaker 1: the guy has been twenty of twenty four for a
Speaker 1: season and he missed, two of his kicks were in
Speaker 1: overtime and they lost the game, another one was right
Speaker 1: at the regulation that didn't force overtime, and another one
Speaker 1: was just a thirty seven yard or you'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty good. But when we really needed you the most,
Speaker 1: and that's what he's done out here when it's time,
Speaker 1: that's who he's been. That's who he's been. They that's
Speaker 1: that's probably a problem with for being so good to
Speaker 1: get up there, because if they stay back at the
Speaker 1: forty and it's a fifty seven yard or money, it's
Speaker 1: it's and it's five points for your fantasy league, which
Speaker 1: it's important. Tough to it's tough to gauge. It's it's
Speaker 1: tough to decide how I feel about him because he
Speaker 1: routinely he's five of six, six of seven, seven of eight,
Speaker 1: like he's missing one kick per day. And if I
Speaker 1: told you that those were all from forty five plus,
Speaker 1: you'd probably feel all right about it. But there's the
Speaker 1: thirty two yarder and the forty yarder and the twenty
Speaker 1: eight yards, so just for kicks. I threw this question
Speaker 1: out on Twitter yesterday. It was an overwhelming response. It
Speaker 1: really was an overwhelming response. But I want to hear
Speaker 1: what you guys have to say. I went back and
Speaker 1: I looked last year. If you just look at some
Speaker 1: of the statistics, he was at eighty percent for the
Speaker 1: season last year. Another guy, Brandon McManus, who I think
Speaker 1: kicks for the Broncos, he was also eighty percent, but
Speaker 1: they're two completely that type of kickers. Mc manus was
Speaker 1: one hundred percent from forty nine and under. He had
Speaker 1: not missed a kick all season last year from forty
Speaker 1: nine and under. However, from fifty plus he was only
Speaker 1: two of seven. You can look at at Maher. Maher
Speaker 1: was I think twenty three of twenty nine for everything
Speaker 1: under forty nine, but he was six of seven from
Speaker 1: fifty plus. Which do you prefer? You prefer the guy
Speaker 1: that's money under fifty, but you get beyond fifty and
Speaker 1: you probably aren't gonna make the kick, or a guy
Speaker 1: that beyond fifty he's pretty money, like he can get
Speaker 1: you those really long kicks, but not horrible. But he's
Speaker 1: not gonna be He's gonna have some moments under forty
Speaker 1: nine that are gonna be like, how do you miss
Speaker 1: that kick? Which one do you go with? Give mean
Speaker 1: the guy that's automatic from short range, because if you
Speaker 1: had a guy that couldn't hit it from long range,
Speaker 1: maybe Jason Garrett would be more aggressive in that part
Speaker 1: of the field anyway, and you wouldn't be settling for
Speaker 1: fifty and fifty three yard field goals in the first place. Nick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I agree with the guy. I
Speaker 1: want to know when it's a thirty seven yard or
Speaker 1: he's gonna make it. You know. Now, he kicks outdoors
Speaker 1: and it can be kind of swirly win. But then again,
Speaker 1: you would think you'd be better with the you know,
Speaker 1: with the altitude like that to get to kick it
Speaker 1: straight and it goes eighty yards. Yeah, but you could,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of you can make the case
Speaker 1: of my heart kicks most of his games indoors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the guy that kicks it
Speaker 1: that's inside the forty nine yards that can make it more.
Speaker 1: I like that guy more because you're right, play calling
Speaker 1: would affect all that. Yeah, what do you think, I mean,
Speaker 1: give me six points and then one point, let's score
Speaker 1: some touchdown? All right? Well, no, I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: Actually somebody was mentioning that they were like, look that
Speaker 1: with this offense, point with this offense, to give me
Speaker 1: the guy that I know is gonna make it under
Speaker 1: forty nine because like, like you, I think it was
Speaker 1: why don't you guys set this you get to the
Speaker 1: those long kicks, go for it on fourth down, like
Speaker 1: you've got a good enough offense where if you got
Speaker 1: a fourth and one, fourth and two, maybe even man
Speaker 1: take a shot, go for it because you know your
Speaker 1: kick is probably not gonna make it from that distance,
Speaker 1: rather than settling when you get to the forty something
Speaker 1: yard line and then trying to just make a long
Speaker 1: field goal fourth and two on the forty with a
Speaker 1: percentage that you're gonna get it, and then if you
Speaker 1: kick it from the forty seven and miss, and then
Speaker 1: they got the ball at the forty seven yard line,
Speaker 1: I think the percentage of making it fourth and two
Speaker 1: is better than making a fifty seven yard field goal
Speaker 1: and then and they get the ball seven yards back here.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they should go for it a little bit more.
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Speaker 1: Before we went on to break, we were talking about
Speaker 1: the kicker, physician brand Maher and all of that. Now
Speaker 1: there is another kicker out there that I've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of fans mentioned and ask about this guy is
Speaker 1: forty four years old and he made twenty out of
Speaker 1: twenty one kicks last year with the Falcons and then
Speaker 1: he was like go this offseason. Matt Bryant a name
Speaker 1: that has been floating around when he comes to this
Speaker 1: team and the Cowboys possibly bringing him in. Thoughts on this,
Speaker 1: this opinion that fans have on this guy. Fifteen years ago,
Speaker 1: they brought him in for a workout here with Parcels
Speaker 1: and he was he was old then. He was, you know,
Speaker 1: a journeyman at twenty nine, thirty year old kicker, and
Speaker 1: he didn't get the job then, and I was shocked
Speaker 1: that he's been doing it for fifteen more years. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: he's I mean he kicks same situation for the Falcons.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, in me half his games are
Speaker 1: pretty much indoors and if he could do that for Atlanta,
Speaker 1: it's probably better here. Can we miss one field goal
Speaker 1: last year? I don't know, that's what I'm taking that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm taking you at your word on that. Actually there's
Speaker 1: another one. A bunch of people message us about it
Speaker 1: last night. The Ravens have a backup in their camp
Speaker 1: named Carrie Vedvik. He hit from the team, by the way,
Speaker 1: that's well, that's why I'm just bringing it up, joke.
Speaker 1: He hit from fifty five, five and twenty six. And
Speaker 1: you know, typically I roll my eyes at trade rumors,
Speaker 1: but if you've got a good second kicker, because we
Speaker 1: know Justin Tucker is amazing, you're probably gonna trade him
Speaker 1: when it comes time to make roster cuts. So something
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. I'm I'm totally content to
Speaker 1: wait until we get back from the West Coast to
Speaker 1: worry about that. Let's see Brett Maher kick in two games.
Speaker 1: He'll have two games to kick a bunch of kicks,
Speaker 1: and if this is still really troubling, there will be
Speaker 1: options as you get closer to the season. I think
Speaker 1: the question is is what is troubling? And that's because
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey and the Dan Bailey that they had for
Speaker 1: a period of about three to four years was one
Speaker 1: arguably one of the best in the history of the NFL,
Speaker 1: and so they've been So what is because is what
Speaker 1: Maher is doing now? Isn't that what the rest of
Speaker 1: the league is doing other than Tucker? And maybe I
Speaker 1: did that study too, where they were last year. Last
Speaker 1: year he was ranked twenty fourth in the league as
Speaker 1: far as this field goal percent eighty at eighty percent,
Speaker 1: that's twenty fourth and there were eight kickers. There were
Speaker 1: eight kickers, so that would be a quarte I'm sorry
Speaker 1: about a quarter of the league that was above ninety percent.
Speaker 1: So it's not even like he is if you rate
Speaker 1: him relative to other kickers in the league, that he
Speaker 1: is still right there around that and we just have
Speaker 1: a war perspective because we just watch him. It's not
Speaker 1: that he is. He's in the lower part of the league,
Speaker 1: lower quarter of the league when it comes to this
Speaker 1: field goal percent. Troubling to me is if the same
Speaker 1: pattern continues where stuff inside of forty yards is either
Speaker 1: dicey or no good, and you have no confidence that
Speaker 1: a kick that's going being taken from the twenty five
Speaker 1: or in is not a safe bet. The interesting I'm
Speaker 1: glad you brought that up though, because like we all
Speaker 1: felt fine about Dan Bailey last year, and they were
Speaker 1: the ones that were troubled because they get to see
Speaker 1: the person more than the player, and that is what
Speaker 1: gives me confidence about Brett Maher is that they see
Speaker 1: the person and they like the person, at least last
Speaker 1: time I checked in that way, which kicker matters, the
Speaker 1: person matters, absolutely, Like, that's the part that and explain
Speaker 1: to people why you said it. I don't and I
Speaker 1: don't say person like he's a nice guy. That's not
Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean, he's confident, he's not down
Speaker 1: on himself. He's got a good attitude. He believes in himself,
Speaker 1: and he's right. That situation is don't kill right in
Speaker 1: the mind, which is what you hear about kickers so
Speaker 1: much that their head cases. Well, apparently last year, I
Speaker 1: mean Bailey, his confidence had had changed to the point
Speaker 1: after the year before they got to the preseason and
Speaker 1: in the games and he wanted to kick with the
Speaker 1: same operation. You know, LP, Chris Jones kick it and
Speaker 1: LP's not going to play the whole game. And they
Speaker 1: got another snapper for that until Bailey kind of wanted
Speaker 1: to have those kicks there, and so that became kind
Speaker 1: of an issue. And Mahr even now Maha apparently is
Speaker 1: more of them. Just put the ball down, Yeah, just
Speaker 1: don't give me the laces. I don't care who snapped
Speaker 1: it whole day. Just put the ball down and I'll
Speaker 1: kick it and so they do love that part of him,
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, it's gotta they
Speaker 1: gotta make it. And so for again me seeing less
Speaker 1: of the person than they do, I want to watch
Speaker 1: to see if he's shaky from inside the twenty five
Speaker 1: yard line, because that's that's the trouble. And that booming
Speaker 1: leg has got to get more touchbacks too. It did
Speaker 1: well earlier on, but then it seems like it's the
Speaker 1: you know, and it happens with weather and with the
Speaker 1: wind and stuff like that, you don't get as many touchbacks.
Speaker 1: But I felt like that kind of that he wore
Speaker 1: down a little bit um last year having to take
Speaker 1: all of the kicks and the punts. Don't don't forget
Speaker 1: last year Maha punted in preseason games. As now his
Speaker 1: role is different. Let's see hand. Okay, I know the
Speaker 1: answer to this question, but I got the question on
Speaker 1: Twitter from a couple of people, So I think it's
Speaker 1: worth you guys at least explaining why the answer will
Speaker 1: be what I think it's gonna be. Why wouldn't the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in a situation like this where you have a
Speaker 1: kicker who is really really good from fifty plus, Why
Speaker 1: wouldn't the Cowboys at least consider the option of having
Speaker 1: two kickers on their team? Why? Because they they don't
Speaker 1: think it's that much of a of an issue to
Speaker 1: waste the whole roster spot because there's no guarantee that
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna make it over any money putting on.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how much they make. But
Speaker 1: you're like, don't think the money, but you're spending an
Speaker 1: extra spot and extra stuff. I know the money wouldn't
Speaker 1: be a whole ton of issue or anything, but that's
Speaker 1: just extra resources. But the money would be the same
Speaker 1: as whatever or less and maybe what you're paying for
Speaker 1: another position. My question like, is it worth it? Is
Speaker 1: it worth it? It's a good idea if one of
Speaker 1: those guys punts, If one of those guys, yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think teams have done that where you're the long kickers,
Speaker 1: not fifty three, but you can't have more than two.
Speaker 1: You're saying you, but you can't have more than two
Speaker 1: kickers because of just the way your roster's mate. It's
Speaker 1: not so much the fifty three, it's the forty sixty six. Man,
Speaker 1: it's tough to have three guys that I mean, you
Speaker 1: have four guys that don't do anything. You have a snapper, punter,
Speaker 1: big kicker, a short kicker. That was the answer I
Speaker 1: was hoping you would give, because that's the answer. I
Speaker 1: think that really is the legitimate I think four members
Speaker 1: of your team that are that play what twelve percent
Speaker 1: of the snaps in a game? Right? Yeah? I mean, although, well,
Speaker 1: and that's actually that is a really good point because
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here thinking like, well, what if they carry
Speaker 1: a third quarterback? Is that really? But but he's got
Speaker 1: a third quarterbacks not ever dressed for a game. And
Speaker 1: that's the point. It's like you're you're trying to figure
Speaker 1: out if, unless you got a lot of injuries, gett
Speaker 1: into forty six. Sometimes it's pretty tough, right, And do
Speaker 1: you have the luxury of being able to make a
Speaker 1: kicker one of those guys? I second kicker? I say
Speaker 1: this in Jess, but like not really and no I do,
Speaker 1: but or just fake kicking? Oh darn what if? I mean,
Speaker 1: just just go up to his room tonight and say,
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath, get to work on if we're yes man.
Speaker 1: I laughed at him. He's like, I'm not joking, but
Speaker 1: like they're like, just work on it every day after
Speaker 1: practice from now until the season starts, and let's just
Speaker 1: see how good he is and if he can handle it.
Speaker 1: He makes you think he can do what he was
Speaker 1: around the league. To do it on a day to
Speaker 1: day basis better than I'm not asking him to hit
Speaker 1: from forty five. I'm asking him to hit extra points
Speaker 1: and chip shots. I get that, But my point still is,
Speaker 1: for they're still kickers in the NFL that all they
Speaker 1: do is kick, and they are at that range, so
Speaker 1: you're expecting him to do that. I'm not fully serious,
Speaker 1: but okay, part of me, part of me if he
Speaker 1: worked on it every day for the next month, I
Speaker 1: wonder how good he'd be because he he woke up
Speaker 1: and didn't know he was going to kick in San
Speaker 1: Francisco and did pretty damn well on like six hours
Speaker 1: notice pretty good. He was so pretty good, Which is
Speaker 1: that's actually the easy part. It's the kickers when they
Speaker 1: start thinking all the time, and probably easy. He's sitting
Speaker 1: on the bus riding to the game thinking, I hope
Speaker 1: they don't call me at five yards to win the game,
Speaker 1: like I don't want to. But what you know, do
Speaker 1: you think, kicker if it's if it's twenty to seventeen
Speaker 1: and the offense is driving, I mean, obviously they want
Speaker 1: they want to win the game. I know they want
Speaker 1: to win the game, but like, do they want like
Speaker 1: like in overtime, you know, like overtime you kick the
Speaker 1: field goal or you score to they like, it depends.
Speaker 1: But that's the point. If you got a kicker who
Speaker 1: is who wants them to score touchdown, most likely he's
Speaker 1: not your He's not gonna be a good kicker because
Speaker 1: with any of these positions out here, the best players
Speaker 1: they want the ball, they want the opportunity to make
Speaker 1: the play in the critical moment because that's just what
Speaker 1: they do. They're like, I'm so great at this. I
Speaker 1: want the opportunity show everybody how great I had from
Speaker 1: everything I've heard. Maher's that kind of guy. Even coming
Speaker 1: off a miss, He's like giving me back out there,
Speaker 1: nail it, yeah, right, Which is I say this all
Speaker 1: the time. But that's how I'm not wired that way.
Speaker 1: And that's how I know I'm not because if it
Speaker 1: was me, I'd be like, come on, Zeke, just bust
Speaker 1: this thing. Man just over there just rooting hard. You
Speaker 1: got the towel out, get this thing in crowded, dude,
Speaker 1: and don't put this thing on my shoulders. I don't
Speaker 1: want that. But that's also I mean, that just tells
Speaker 1: you what kind of special mentality it takes to play
Speaker 1: at this level. And you talk about any athlete, I mean,
Speaker 1: basketball is probably even more so because it's only five
Speaker 1: guys on the court. You see their faces and you're
Speaker 1: taking that last second shot, Like, think about the mentality
Speaker 1: you have to have to say, give me the ball
Speaker 1: to win the game with everybody watching me, and I'm
Speaker 1: on a center stage and I'm the guy, so self
Speaker 1: doubt is not in their vocabulary. And I'm just like,
Speaker 1: how because that's all I do. All right, Well, let's
Speaker 1: keep answering some of these fans questions. One of them
Speaker 1: is asking, are we gonna how much of Kellen Moore's
Speaker 1: playbook are we gonna get to see in tomorrow's game?
Speaker 1: Probably not as much as you want to if I
Speaker 1: had to guess. And they don't tell us what they're
Speaker 1: gonna run. But it's preseason. They don't even game plan,
Speaker 1: like they don't you know, there's no intricate plan for this.
Speaker 1: And they also they script. There's a difference between scripting
Speaker 1: and game plan right, and then on top of that,
Speaker 1: there's no way in hell they want to put meaningful
Speaker 1: stuff on tape for other teams to look at when
Speaker 1: the season rolls around. So which, by the way, right now,
Speaker 1: no team has really reliable footage on what he likes
Speaker 1: to call, So why give them that when you get
Speaker 1: to go into a season and be able to catch
Speaker 1: everybody by a surprise because they don't have any films.
Speaker 1: I think about that one. I think about that when
Speaker 1: I videotape every snap of practice. I'm like knowing the
Speaker 1: resources that NFL teams put into these things. There's probably
Speaker 1: guys around the league watching my grainy cell phone. No,
Speaker 1: but the difference is the difference is you're just taking
Speaker 1: an isolated play. They still don't know in a certain situation,
Speaker 1: what does he like to do? What is his propensity
Speaker 1: to do in this situation. That's where they're gonna have
Speaker 1: an advantage, at least for the first part of the season.
Speaker 1: It tests third and six at the twenty think they do.
Speaker 1: I think they probably would have shut us down if
Speaker 1: it was that. I think I think it'll look very vanilla. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who do you think will lead the team? In receiving
Speaker 1: yards Cooper, Cob or Gallop. I thought it was for
Speaker 1: the game Cooper's. Now we're doing random thing Cooper, Cooper,
Speaker 1: Cooper's Oh, Cob, Well, Cole might not play either. I
Speaker 1: don't know, no in this season. Oh I'm sorry. Yards
Speaker 1: yards better read Cooper? After all that about to see
Speaker 1: about to get If this contra is gonna get done,
Speaker 1: it better be cool. I think it'll be Cooper. I'm
Speaker 1: I mean, eighty eighty two hundred catches, eleven hundred yards
Speaker 1: something like, can I change your questions? I'm like, between
Speaker 1: Cob and Gallop, who has more yards? I actually somebody
Speaker 1: asked me about that because I've been raving about Michael
Speaker 1: Gallup and somebody was like, well, you know, when you
Speaker 1: think is season's gonna look like I'm I'm like, it's
Speaker 1: still probably not gonna just like boggle the mind. Because
Speaker 1: of the way this team is constructed. They're run heavy.
Speaker 1: I assume they're gonna have an all pro running back
Speaker 1: who will also catch a bunch of passes. And then
Speaker 1: you've got Cobb and Witten who are gonna be ready
Speaker 1: made targets for Dak right which Cobb that made mean
Speaker 1: volume for Cobb, whereas in you know Gallup's gonna be
Speaker 1: He's gonna make some big plays. Eighty four they say, again,
Speaker 1: thirty eight catches. That would be disappointing after what we've
Speaker 1: seen out here because he only had I think thirty
Speaker 1: eight was his exact tally last year, thirty nine. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna buy into the hype enough to say that I
Speaker 1: think he can hit fifty. I don't know if they're
Speaker 1: gonna throw that. I know that's the problem. That's all.
Speaker 1: That's why I think Nick's number is actually good. You
Speaker 1: tell me he's gonna get five hundred yards off of
Speaker 1: thirty eight catches and four or five touchdowns, And if
Speaker 1: Cooper's doing what we think he's gonna do, and you
Speaker 1: got Zeke and you got Pollard and you got like
Speaker 1: there's with that, I think that's a really good season
Speaker 1: for him based on how this af's run. That's kind
Speaker 1: of a Harper type. Really your best, your best hope
Speaker 1: for Gallup. That's that line is fine, but up the
Speaker 1: touchdowns and he should have had more last year. We
Speaker 1: couldn't connect with Dak six seven. If he brings in
Speaker 1: a few, yeah, like forty five catches for seven six
Speaker 1: something and but but like seven touchdowns? Yeah, that's very yeah, great, well, yes,
Speaker 1: that leads into this next question, is right there will
Speaker 1: the Colways having more passing touchdowns than rushing touchdowns? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They most I mean better if they don't, most teams
Speaker 1: have that. Yeah, but what well, Actually, that's the thing is,
Speaker 1: Zeke didn't have that many rushing touchdowns last year. What
Speaker 1: do you have? Six? And I think Dak had six? Well,
Speaker 1: they have an issues because I mean sucked in the
Speaker 1: red zone. Yeah, I mean, so is that cleared up
Speaker 1: by Frederick where he does have that kind of I mean,
Speaker 1: but Dak also quarterbacks have twenty something touchdowns? Right, thirty
Speaker 1: is the new Yeah, like so just see if he
Speaker 1: had twenty five, I mean in it had the record
Speaker 1: of twenty five of the right, Yeah, but I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll be passing even it'll be passing. All right. Let's
Speaker 1: take our final break, and when we come back, we'll
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Speaker 1: This is a final segment of the break. Now we're
Speaker 1: going to keep answering some questions sent from the fans
Speaker 1: out there through Twitter. What are you looking at there?
Speaker 1: What kind of questions? All right? Next question, how would
Speaker 1: you rate acts deep throws? At this point, you're saying,
Speaker 1: like on a one to ten skill, irrelevant, irrelevant out
Speaker 1: here because he can do him all he wants to
Speaker 1: out here and get him in the games. Because we've
Speaker 1: seen out of him. I know that why we're here
Speaker 1: practicing and hoping that it translates. But with Dak everything
Speaker 1: is totally different. It's got to translate to a game.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he doesn't even take what he's doing out here
Speaker 1: and he plays way better. So it's it's I don't
Speaker 1: mean that it's a big deal because you just said
Speaker 1: Gallup should have more touchdowns last year because they didn't
Speaker 1: connect that as much, but I think that what he
Speaker 1: does out here. He had a great throw to Cob
Speaker 1: the other day, but I just want to see that
Speaker 1: in the game. I guess you could say that about everybody,
Speaker 1: but with Dak, I think it's pretty proven that he
Speaker 1: plays and practices differently. He does, and it's hard to
Speaker 1: decide how. I feel like, if you charted up every
Speaker 1: single throw he's made over thirty yards at this camp,
Speaker 1: he's probably right around fifty percent. Like it hasn't been
Speaker 1: It hasn't been that consistent and looked like that last year.
Speaker 1: The thing is is, you know, if but he throws
Speaker 1: ten a day out here and in games it's like two.
Speaker 1: And the key is to can he find a way
Speaker 1: to be consistent when it matters, because he did leave
Speaker 1: throws on the field and no quarterback is going to
Speaker 1: make them all Like you can go like I'm a
Speaker 1: jerk about it. I tweet every time, like every time
Speaker 1: Brady misses a throw like that, I tweet about it
Speaker 1: because every quarterback misses him. But Dak needs to be
Speaker 1: better at being more consistent. I'll ask you this question,
Speaker 1: Dave on that one of the things I've noticed out here,
Speaker 1: and it hasn't happened a lot, but there have been
Speaker 1: two or three times I've noticed it where you had
Speaker 1: a guy who was wide open. I'm talking two or
Speaker 1: three steps on the next closest defender and and Dak
Speaker 1: missed him. Does Dak concern you, because I do think
Speaker 1: there's some quarterbacks the NFL, you give them that kind
Speaker 1: of situation, they not miss. Yes, And that's that's one
Speaker 1: thing when you're missing when there's tight coverage. There's another
Speaker 1: thing when you're missing when there's a wide Oh maybe
Speaker 1: maybe it plays into the gamer verse. Practice thing is
Speaker 1: like when it's easy, it's a bigger struggle because and
Speaker 1: some of Dak's best throws are against like the best coverage.
Speaker 1: You go look at the throw he made to Gallop
Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year. Obviously we beat in the
Speaker 1: Beadsley throw to death. Um, he's made some really insane
Speaker 1: throws against great coverage. But yeah, I'd be lying here too.
Speaker 1: He has yeah, right, And and that's why just mentioned
Speaker 1: to Cobb right down the seam was it was gorgeous
Speaker 1: and the coverage was good. He made another one to
Speaker 1: Gallop in the corner. I got it on video. Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson had great position in great coverage and it just
Speaker 1: didn't matter. I'm kind of worried a little bit about
Speaker 1: the guys going up and really just snatching it like
Speaker 1: Dees style. I don't think we have a lot of
Speaker 1: that on this team. I think you have Cooper and
Speaker 1: not a whole lot else in terms of guys, I
Speaker 1: haven't seen Cooper do it a lot. Just I'm talking
Speaker 1: about me versus you, and I'm my hands are gonna
Speaker 1: get it in yours aren't. Well. I think the difference is.
Speaker 1: I think the difference is, in my opinion at least,
Speaker 1: I think these receivers are better route runners, so they
Speaker 1: don't have that opperty. They're not in that situation as much.
Speaker 1: Des wasn't a guy that that notoriously got a whole
Speaker 1: lot of separation, so he had to play that kind
Speaker 1: of game. These guys they're getting separation so so they
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have to play that game very Marmo wasn't
Speaker 1: a great deep ball thrower. He could never really get
Speaker 1: that ball out there where Dez wouldn't have to stop
Speaker 1: and come back and make it so and that's kind
Speaker 1: of the same way sometimes that happens, you know, you
Speaker 1: have to stop and you have to kind of go
Speaker 1: fight for it. And I just wonder how well these
Speaker 1: guys are going to go, you know, grab the ball
Speaker 1: when it's up there like that. It's it's tough. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think you made the point. Maybe it's different for
Speaker 1: running backs, but in the compete period back to back days,
Speaker 1: you know, he missed olawally and came back the next
Speaker 1: day and miss Pollard, Like those misses give you pause,
Speaker 1: like that's not good. And so we'll see how it translates.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have faith that he'll he'll up his
Speaker 1: play in the games, because he always does. But you'd
Speaker 1: like to see more consistency, and not to sound like
Speaker 1: hot take guy, but especially if you're gonna pay him
Speaker 1: a bunch of money, you'd like to see more consistently.
Speaker 1: I love I love the accuracy. The accuracy I've seen
Speaker 1: on a lot of his throws. Absolutely so, So that's
Speaker 1: the part that I'm like, So I don't I don't
Speaker 1: really think of it as his deep ball has not
Speaker 1: been as because like I think he's a gamer. I
Speaker 1: think he's always he's always shown us he's better in games,
Speaker 1: and he is in practice, and the fact that I
Speaker 1: see improvement in practice says to me he will also
Speaker 1: improve in the game. The other thing takes the logical
Speaker 1: you know, transference. If you're probably gonna throw it that
Speaker 1: far down field two to five times a game, depending
Speaker 1: on the defense, you're gonna throw the crossing routes and
Speaker 1: the slants and the posts a lot more. And that
Speaker 1: has looked better. And especially, I'll say it again, the
Speaker 1: reason I feel so good about Randall cob Cobb is
Speaker 1: because Dak consistently hits him in a manner that allows
Speaker 1: him to get yack yep, And that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1: And if he's better at that than Colby's his replaced
Speaker 1: who's who he's replacing. If he's consistently hitting those ten
Speaker 1: to eighteen yard throws like he has been, then I'll
Speaker 1: take what I can get with the deep ball, because
Speaker 1: that's that's not this team's game anyway. This isn't the
Speaker 1: bomb away offense. Saint the Saint the Chief. It would
Speaker 1: be fun to follow Pat Mahomes, but we don't have him,
Speaker 1: so you can still follow him well professionally. Yeah, so ye, Well,
Speaker 1: let's switch up the conversation a little bit. Do you
Speaker 1: think that Lenihan letting getting let go had anything to
Speaker 1: do with Witten's return? You're just trying to start missing. Hey,
Speaker 1: these are fans sending any questions. What do you want
Speaker 1: me to do? No, I don't because Witten Witten has
Speaker 1: Witten pumped out the same stat line for twelve years
Speaker 1: under like multiple different coordinators and multiple different ideas. I
Speaker 1: think Witten was miserable in his old job and realized
Speaker 1: he still could play and still wanted to play. He
Speaker 1: would have returned regardless. I mean, I think the question
Speaker 1: is valid. I think they. I think the phrasing of
Speaker 1: it might have been flipped around. He said Lenihan, what
Speaker 1: Lenihan getting let go had anything to do with Jason
Speaker 1: coming back? I think I think Jason returning he probably
Speaker 1: the fact that Kellen Moore was the was the coordinator,
Speaker 1: and what he likes from from Kellen and liked him there.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like if Lenahan's here,
Speaker 1: I'm not coming back, but it's like I liked I
Speaker 1: can see what Kellen's gonna do, and I like. I
Speaker 1: think I think ten and six and seven and one
Speaker 1: in the final eight games with Mari he's the reason
Speaker 1: why he was like, which, okay, but and if somehow
Speaker 1: which that that would have that's never gonna happen. But
Speaker 1: if somehow Lenahan had, if everything had just stayed the same,
Speaker 1: you still think Quentin would have come back. I do.
Speaker 1: I do too, Yeah, probably think so. Yeah, I think combination.
Speaker 1: But you were right, You're right. It's I think it's
Speaker 1: I think it's what you said at the end there.
Speaker 1: It's about the fact that how this team was playing
Speaker 1: at the end. Um. I think Jason probably looked at
Speaker 1: that and said, you know, what I could bring is
Speaker 1: a tight end. If they had that during that stretch,
Speaker 1: I think they could have gone farther. So I think
Speaker 1: I can actually add something, and I think this is
Speaker 1: a really good team. And I think that's why he
Speaker 1: wanted to come back. On top of the fact he was,
Speaker 1: like you said, probably not having the greatest time. They're
Speaker 1: watching the game and talking about it versus playing. His
Speaker 1: future wasn't there. I mean, we all we all know it.
Speaker 1: Some some people are good at some things and some aren't.
Speaker 1: As we talked about today in other areas, don't go there. Well,
Speaker 1: this is supposed to be my restpe I get away
Speaker 1: from all the management stuff, right. I mean, like I
Speaker 1: said at the beginning, you can get up and go
Speaker 1: whenever you want. It still applies. We still have like
Speaker 1: eight minutes left now with talking about him. Do you
Speaker 1: think that he would be able to make the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl this year? No? Yes, But here's I mean. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to throw shade, but the Pro Bowl doesn't
Speaker 1: mean what it always meant. You're gonna have dropouts, You're
Speaker 1: gonna have injuries. Like you see it all the time,
Speaker 1: Guys who were probably eighth in the pecking order wind
Speaker 1: up going to the Pro Bowl. And I think Witten's
Speaker 1: probably gonna play enough snaps to catch anywhere between fifty
Speaker 1: and seventy balls for six hundred yards, and if he
Speaker 1: throws some touchdowns in the mix. Add that to the
Speaker 1: fact that he's a future Hall of Famer, Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: he could go to the Pro Bowl. I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: the guys that right now I think are gonna be
Speaker 1: the best tight ends in the NFC. ERTs Kittle comes
Speaker 1: to mind. Catches. Yeah, but I'm saying when I can
Speaker 1: start thinking about it from that standpoint, But again, I
Speaker 1: think Jason's as far as just production is concerned. I
Speaker 1: think Jason's gonna be farther down the list he is,
Speaker 1: And and these guys that are gonna have some of
Speaker 1: the production, It's not like they aren't guys that art.
Speaker 1: Like Kittle. When he first popped on the scene, nobody
Speaker 1: everybody's like, who's this great Kittle guy? But now George
Speaker 1: Jordan there's no point. But the point now is that
Speaker 1: people are starting to kind of take notice of them.
Speaker 1: They started really catching on, Like, this guy's a pretty
Speaker 1: good tight end this year. He's not gonna surprise anybody.
Speaker 1: If he has that kind of production, He's gonna be
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl caliber guy. Kittle ERTs Ingram, who am
Speaker 1: I forgetting? Rudolph is still doing stuff? You got the
Speaker 1: new kid in Detroit? Howkin? Maybe that could happen. Who's
Speaker 1: um god? Who's in New Orleans? Now? They signed a
Speaker 1: guy I didn't they sign? Oh, they signed Jared Coke.
Speaker 1: That's who it was. And he's a pretty good tight
Speaker 1: end from standpoint of numbers with a good quarterback. Ingram,
Speaker 1: so who you said? Yeah, Ingram? Here's the thing though,
Speaker 1: like they ain't going to the super Bowl, but good
Speaker 1: point one, Like one of those dudes will probably be
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Hell, maybe it'll be witting. For
Speaker 1: that matter, one of those dudes will be in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. One of them is gonna freaking, you know,
Speaker 1: suffer a deep bone bruise in Week sixteen and be like, nah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to the Pro Bowl, And
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the seventh best tight end in
Speaker 1: the NFC will be in the Pro Bowl, like it
Speaker 1: happens every year. Yeah, So yes, I think it's possible, alight.
Speaker 1: Not not because he'll be one of the two or
Speaker 1: three best tight ends in the league, but because of
Speaker 1: the way structure. Yeah, with the suspensions that are looming,
Speaker 1: does that give us an opportunity to look at bubble
Speaker 1: players a little bit longer, especially, and there's no position
Speaker 1: that has more bubbleness to it than the defensive line,
Speaker 1: which has a It is a very If everybody was
Speaker 1: there that's on this little depth chart right there, I was,
Speaker 1: I was being tried the defensive side. Every one of
Speaker 1: those guys was ready and ready to play, they would
Speaker 1: be a very tough cut. I mean that's who you got.
Speaker 1: Sixteen guys there would Crawford, Taco, Malik Covington, all those
Speaker 1: guys you think are gonna be there, DeMarcus, that's that?
Speaker 1: Then what Tristan Hill, He'll make it. What's that legendary
Speaker 1: clip of Romo the day Quincy got cut when he's
Speaker 1: like and cutting me today? Yeah? Well, I bet Taco
Speaker 1: Charlton felt some semblance of that when he heard about
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn. Yeah. I mean, like Daniel Ross has played
Speaker 1: been here for two years. It was pretty good at
Speaker 1: times last year and then he met had some inactive moments.
Speaker 1: But he looks like a bigger guy, like he gained
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty pounds. I mean, but no one even
Speaker 1: talks about him even being in the rotation because they
Speaker 1: got Covington, they got they drafted Hill. Yeah, and that
Speaker 1: he wanted to be here. He contributed last year. He
Speaker 1: was why part of that? Why is is a guy?
Speaker 1: I thought about bringing up as far as like a
Speaker 1: surprise on Saturday Night because you would imagine he's going
Speaker 1: to play a decent amount. He's flashed some stuff here.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if he bowls over a guard
Speaker 1: or two on Saturday Night. Sixteen Layman, can they keep eleven?
Speaker 1: They can they have before? It's rare. I think in fourteen.
Speaker 1: They it's hard to cut five. Thento Walker, I just
Speaker 1: feel like every time I think they're every time I
Speaker 1: think they're only gonna keeps, every time I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna go along, they keep like eight. Like one year
Speaker 1: they kept eight and I was flabbergasted. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: we still have the guy getting carted off the field
Speaker 1: in one of these games with you know, my ankle's
Speaker 1: brain or something that he's out for a little while.
Speaker 1: I know it happens, but I'm just sayings happen. These
Speaker 1: things trickled it. I mean that they work themselves out
Speaker 1: well with that, the whole suspension things and some of
Speaker 1: these guys not being available for the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1: How much does that effect maybe what they're trying to
Speaker 1: do with the roster of maybe keeping somebody else at
Speaker 1: another position, but now they're having to carry more at
Speaker 1: that position on the D line. Well with the with
Speaker 1: the suspension, the Quinn thing, I mean, it's not good
Speaker 1: that he's suspended, but it helps them because he doesn't
Speaker 1: count toward their roster. Now, let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: though it's just from a procedural standpoint, though, do they
Speaker 1: have to get down do they have to have him
Speaker 1: on the roster when they first get to fifty three,
Speaker 1: and then they can move him, which means they still
Speaker 1: have to have that spot, or can they immediately move
Speaker 1: him to doesn't spend it list, like ninety guys, you
Speaker 1: gotta get to fifty three. You got thirty seven cuts, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: thirty seven cuts. You gotta cut thirty three. This guy
Speaker 1: goes to injured reserve. He's out for the season. These
Speaker 1: three guys. This guy goes to suspension list. You don't
Speaker 1: have to, So there's no point where you have to
Speaker 1: make a decision about the roster because of him. Now
Speaker 1: you basically keep an extra guy until he's all suspension.
Speaker 1: Quinn immediately has the suspended. I don't think so, I
Speaker 1: need to check this curious he had he he immediately
Speaker 1: goes to reserve suspended at like four h one eastern
Speaker 1: on in August thirty. First. That's a good thing for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys at the point of just whether and whether
Speaker 1: it's Taco, whether it's Ross, whether it's Daniel Wise Liken
Speaker 1: get one of those guys will get that spot, most
Speaker 1: likely for two weeks and then something somebody gets hurt
Speaker 1: in a different position and right, and they stay around,
Speaker 1: so it's good. Yeah, you hold on as long as
Speaker 1: you can. This team knows how to handle suspension on
Speaker 1: the experience. Well, yeah, watch the suspension thing. It won't
Speaker 1: work against him because obviously they'd love to have Randy back.
Speaker 1: But if Randy were to come back, then that's a
Speaker 1: spot you don't have, all of a sudden Week three,
Speaker 1: you'll come back. We'll see who knows you're still keeping well,
Speaker 1: might Apple and Crawford. So there's a lot that's still
Speaker 1: kind of I'm undetermined, between the possibility of a suspension
Speaker 1: and the fact that he's on pup Like I'm yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to know what's going on with Tyrone one
Speaker 1: way or the other. Yeah, exactly. All right, Well, I
Speaker 1: think that's all the time we have for today. We'll
Speaker 1: be traveling later on over to San Francisco. Nick, maybe
Speaker 1: remember we're going to San Jose. All right, it's right there.
Speaker 1: But do you want to go ahead and promote the
Speaker 1: broadcasting where it's gonna be televised or while you guys
Speaker 1: do for the game. Yeah, yeah, sure, absolutely, what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do this this year. Actually, the NFL has changed
Speaker 1: some of the rules and they are allowing us to
Speaker 1: stream the game live on our mobile app and our
Speaker 1: in our website, but only for people in our local
Speaker 1: viewing market. So if you're in the local viewing market,
Speaker 1: you can watch it on the app or the mobile.
Speaker 1: You can watch on the app or our website live
Speaker 1: while the games in progress. For those of you outside
Speaker 1: of the market, what we will do is the same
Speaker 1: thing we did last year. You need to get to
Speaker 1: Connected TV app. You can get it on Roku, you
Speaker 1: can get on Apple TV, and you can get it
Speaker 1: on Amazon Fire. But if you have that, the morning
Speaker 1: following the game, we will have the game available on
Speaker 1: our Connected TV app. It's called Cowboys Now um, and
Speaker 1: you'll be able to watch it from there. And and
Speaker 1: obviously that makes a little more sense for the preseason
Speaker 1: because you don't care as much about the outcome as
Speaker 1: much as you want to see different players, UM. So
Speaker 1: you can go back and watch that the following morning.
Speaker 1: So Sunday morning, h this week, you will be able
Speaker 1: to watch that game on Connected TV. Thank you Derek,
Speaker 1: thank you Nick, thank you Dave for presents. Jack. Go
Speaker 1: see you guys on Monday. We'll be back then and
Speaker 1: hopefully you got to watch this game and we get
Speaker 1: to see some players gonna shine out there when the
Speaker 1: lights come on. Thank you so much. This has been
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