WEBVTT - That Thing You Did with Johnathon Schaech 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:09.280 Wind Down with Jane Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast. Okay, Hi, 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:13.399 I don't mind our like pillow talk voices Jason everything 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:15.680 in the other room. It does sound like the lad 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:17.759 talk because it's like, Hi, welcome to wind down. This 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.360 is Janne and Catherine. Really beautiful, by the way, Thank you, 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:23.320 so do you? I feel like we both wore makeup. 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:29.640 We did. It's just a new thing we try sometimes. Um, 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:33.760 I wrapped the movie yesterday. I can't believe that that 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:37.519 was so fast. Well usually, I mean, yeah, I filmed 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.479 it was Usually they do it in fifteen sixteen days. 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:45.080 We did in fifteen, which is just insane. But um, 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.800 this was like the first time I wasn't in every 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.200 I wasn't in every scene, Like I wasn't number one. 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:54.600 So I didn't work all day. And it's funny because 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.120 I was telling my hair and make it people, and 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:01.680 it's like it's it's harder to be there only for 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:05.400 a few scenes then like all day because I'm like 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:07.280 I want to go home, you know where. It's like 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.040 when you know you have to be there all day, 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.640 it's like you've already just like accepted you have to 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.360 be there all day. Yeah. Yeah, Um, and I'm like, oh, 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:16.800 you switched the scenes like what I wanted, you know, so, 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.200 but it was I had so much fun. I had 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:23.040 like that cast was so cool, Mario was awesome. The 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:26.399 dancing I kind of messed up on like the last 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.120 day with a dancing that just I'm not good at 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.960 hip hop. I'm just to do hip hop again. Yeah, 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.360 I know, but Spencer was there. It was like a 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.360 great choreographer who helped us. But it's still I'm just like, 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.920 for some reason, like my hips don't move well. And 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:41.360 I feel like you're either good at hip hop or 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.080 you're good at like lyrical ballet type. Like it's just 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.240 two different types. Yea, And I feel like I'm way 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:49.120 better at Yeah, you're great at whatever that is, lyrical jazz, 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.760 one of those contemporary and I scared her battery and 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.680 I know, but that was so I hope. I hope 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:59.040 when people watch it they're not like she's a dance 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:04.919 teacher mary an actress first, Okay, Okay, that's good. Um, 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:06.400 but it was. Yeah, it was a lot of fun 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:10.280 and I yeah really pumped for you guys to see 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.359 it because it was it was really fun to make. 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:15.160 So I hope it turns out. I hope you try. 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:19.360 So you're in lifetime. Lifetime, it's a wonderful lifetime and 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:23.040 it'll be obviously you know, Christmas time. So and Mario 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:27.160 was cool. Mario was so cool. Um yeah, we didn't 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.960 like it was you know, good chemistry. We um, we 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:34.959 had fun together, Like we laughed a lot. I'll probably 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:36.440 say he's like my favorite. I think he's one of 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:40.960 my favorite co stars I've ever had. Like he's really cool. Um, 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.160 he is so busy, so it's hard at times to 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:45.600 be like all right, Mario, like come on, Like he's 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.520 got like a million different things he's doing so that, 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.080 but now he's really great. He's a good scene partner. 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:55.880 And we would be like, hey, so, um, can we 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:57.400 tell each other if it sucks so we can do 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.600 it again. So he'd be like does it suck? And 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.000 I'm like, I think you do better and then you 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.040 would do the same for me. But like I loved 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.560 it because um, when we did do good, like we 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:09.120 knew that the person meant it. He's good. So that 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:15.200 was that was really fun. So um good. And then yeah, 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.960 a few other things I'm not ready to talk about yet. Okay, 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:19.960 I haven't I haven't seen you in a while. I know, 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:21.679 I'm lay a minute. It's I feel like whenever I 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.040 do movies, It's like, I know, I feel like I 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.520 have we have to have like a two week catchup, 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.480 three week catch up. There was something else I was 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:34.080 going to say, and now I can't remember, but I know, 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:41.720 riveting conversation. Um, how are you though? Everything good? I'm good? Yeah, yeah, 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:47.200 there's really nothing new in my world. So we have 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:51.320 an in person guest today. This is who is gonna 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:56.920 be good? Katherine's like, where's my popcorn? I brought it? Um, 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:02.760 So we are going to have Jonathan check on the show. Um, 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:06.240 who I technically married? How many years ago? With that 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.960 technically married? Oh gosh, I'm gonna look it up for 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:14.720 twelve something like that. We were only married for about 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:21.040 a week. Um we had and then and then. But 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.599 the whole people that have been like avid listeners have 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:28.680 wine not obviously know that. Um My, one of my 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:32.240 best friends, part of our queendom, in our group chat 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:36.600 is his wife Julie Solomon. Um. And there was like 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:43.320 a little hiccup that happened with mine John's relationship, and 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.560 so we just and I had written him an email. 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:47.800 I mean, we we'll explain it. But long story short, 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.560 we're going to have him on the show, and it's 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:53.919 going to be in a men's show because y'all have 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:58.719 not talked since Nope, I mean we've talked since obviously, 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.640 like the now yeah were good and then they were 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.360 yah yeah, and which we talked about on the pot 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.680 like yeah, well, and then I'll kind of refresh people 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.279 the memory with that. Um, oh my god, did you 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:13.720 see the US weekly thing about the mommy shammer? They 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:17.159 put it on yours? Yeah, I mean I saw what 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.360 you posted. They put on this weekly. They did because 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.800 they were like I actually was like happy with the 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:26.000 fact that they like there were so many kids, you know, 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.800 like people are really mean to me. I'm on those comments. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:31.560 I was like, oh god, here we go. They're gonna 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.159 tell me how bad of a mom I am. But 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.599 then there were so many people that were like, you know, 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.960 when your kid is sick, like I can't cancel filming. 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.400 I called them and was like, Hey, is there any 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.520 way to move around the scenes so I can spend 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:49.080 the morning with her because my ex couldn't get her. Um, 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.240 and I'm like, I don't have a family. When I 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.680 was sick, I'd get dropped off at like my grandparents 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:55.680 or like my aunt will come over. And that was 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.120 the funny time when she tried to make tapioco in 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.520 the food those uh, the spoon gots stuck in the tapioca, 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.880 because you'd know how to make it. Became know, it's 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.559 like my one thing I knew when I'm sick. Um. 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:11.400 But it's like when the current girls like she's dumping 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.200 her off it like her friends, like your terrible mom 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:19.360 basically for not taking off work. Most people can't take 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:23.520 off work like that. I can guarantee the majority of 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.720 people who work normal jobs cannot just call in sick. 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.560 They can't. I mean they have a certain amount of 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.880 sick days. I mean that happens all the time. So 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.080 that Mama, I want to do well. It's the thing 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.600 that like kind of baffles me about the whole situation 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.320 is like when I read it, and there was like 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.080 one or two other ones too in the d m 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.560 S about just being like why wouldn't you and like 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.479 why isn't her dad. It's like listen, like he has 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.159 a job too, and he you know, he couldn't get 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:56.040 her um And you know, my day. So I had 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.800 to figure it out and I was going to take 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:01.479 her to set with me, but at the same time 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.960 she's puking, So I'm like, godly, this is you know, 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.800 so thankfully like Pamelin you know, came to the rescue 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.000 for that. But when I looked at the name and 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.840 it said like mama of Angel, I was like, why 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.240 is it that any hate I ever get is from 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.040 other moms because they think that they have it all 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:22.040 figured out? But that just like baffles me. I'm fine 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.160 with a few dms or people are like, hey, f y, 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.520 I like the child, like you know, seat needs to 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.360 like the head, and I'm like, okay, cool, like thank you, 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:30.920 you know, it's not really shaming me. It's more like 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.200 you're trying to just be like helpful that sometimes yeah, 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.120 Jay's strap thing is a little like lower than maybe 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.360 it should or higher or whatever. Um. But when it 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:45.320 comes to like straight up like just like how could 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:47.600 you or why would you do? And like and it's 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:52.280 always from a mom. It's always been moms like what 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:57.040 I don't understand why why? Here's the thing? Like I 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.160 don't agree with Kristen that she co sleeps, but I 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.040 would never like and I'm like, it doesn't work for me, 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.240 but hey, if it works for you, Like I don't 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.720 think it's like but something I say, I don't want 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:08.200 to agree with it, but I'm like, that just doesn't 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.560 doesn't work for us. I'm not going to shame her 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:12.720 and be like, oh, you shouldn't be doing that because 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.920 your kid's going to have you know, this, that or whatever, Like, no, 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.280 that's if it works for you. Cool. It doesn't work 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.640 for you, great, Okay, if you got to go do that, great, Like, 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:26.160 and then I started to think about something's coming up 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:27.400 where I might have to be away from the kids 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:28.800 for a little bit, and I'm like, well, here we go. 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.240 Like I'm starting like the shaming comes from like the 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.079 fear of the other mom shaming me, Like your shame 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:39.000 comes from other freaking moms. I'm like, how cool is that? Yeah, 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.200 it's terrible. Yeah, I don't know why they do it. 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:46.200 I don't understand. I really don't. I do think to 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.880 an extent, people think, obviously, because your life is out 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.040 there obviously, that they can just say whatever they want 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:57.160 to say, you know, but people have to stop that, 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.959 Like it's just they can't just don't know the shaming, 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.480 and it's getting better. I feel like people are definitely 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.480 more aware of that. But online, you know, people hide 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:11.240 behind the messages. You just have to not let it 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.680 get to you. Just like like you told me, don't 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:17.959 read the don't read the comments. Yeah no, yeah, I 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.160 just it just it honestly makes me sad that, like 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:28.280 moms are that judgmental. Yeah, I mean, and it's been 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.760 since I've had kids from the I don't how dare 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.160 I not make real food for my children? And I 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:38.200 have gave them glass bottles of food like remember that. 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.040 I'm like, I was so excited to go buy those 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:45.480 baby food jars because like first time mom, getting the jars, 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:46.880 like putting them on the thing. I was like, I'm 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.320 real food, Like yeah, okay, I don't have time to 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.240 like make the blended smooth and food like I just didn't. 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.160 I tried, I got it all, got all the things 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:57.920 to make the real food, and I'm like, this is 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.480 stressing me out. I can't do this. I think you 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.400 just have to stay in solid in your decisions. It's 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:08.400 kind of like the breast milk versus breastfed versus bottle fed, 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.800 Like I bottle fed and had formula, and I was like, 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:14.960 you know what, I don't care what anyone says. And 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:16.840 I mean I had all my own family being like, 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.960 why are you not breast fading? Because I don't want to. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.520 You just have to like it's tough, but stop the judging. 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.040 I think I just heard the doorable rings. So let's 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:40.440 take a break and get our guests on. Okay, welcome everybody. 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:51.960 Jonathan Shack onto the podcast. Everybody. Um, So I didn't 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:57.559 really give like a I didn't really give, and I said, um, 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.959 kind of this should be like that people know Julie 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.840 cause I've had Julian on the show Bunch your wife, 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:07.400 my bestie, um, my part of my queendom. And so 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.760 I've i've kind of what we just said, like that 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:13.560 we were all friends and um we were married for 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:17.360 a hot minute. Um. And then so where do you 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.960 want to start? I want to start? Yeah, where do 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:25.640 you want to start? Oh, when you were in the 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:31.439 bathroom stall of that reality program? Do you know this? 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:37.040 So she you were on a what was it or 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.200 something like that. We're going all the way back then, Okay, 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:40.760 I can, I can, I can hang with that. We're 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:45.679 starting from this is the beginning of our courtship. We 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:47.760 were going to start there. Let's just go back to 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:52.880 we were both on prom Night and your your grandmama 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:56.679 and your father? What were they on the set? No? Dad, 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:58.520 it was your dad was definitely my dad? Was there? 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:05.280 Your grandma? I don't remember that at all. Okay, Well, 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.200 all I remember is I think I was. I was 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:15.120 like twenty five six, like I don't know it was. 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:22.480 And Jonathan, um it was the killer in prom Night 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.880 spoiler alert if you haven't seen it. And um, I 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.200 just remember going like, oh my god, that's the hot 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:32.040 guy from that thing you do. Because I grew up 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:35.440 on that show. You know, he was the I quit guy. So, um, 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.720 it was a movie, not a show. Okay, Well don't 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:41.480 they call them all shows now? Movies? No? No, okay, 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.520 maybe that's the lingo it was. It was a Tom 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.520 Hanks film. It was a Tom Hanks film. It was 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:48.520 a kind of like a cult classic in a way. 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:53.000 It's grown, it's always continues to grow. People love that movie. 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.320 It's a feel good films. So people can watch it 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.400 the same as if they watched it years ago. Can 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.200 we before we get into the other stuff? Can Because 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:02.840 I just remember the story from that thing you do 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.120 and how you actually got that part? Can you just 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:09.000 sell that like that you basically made up that last part. 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:13.480 So the lines were I quit and he left the 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:18.520 band and I chose to in the audition room and 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.920 oppretendingly there was a microphone and I was like I 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:26.280 quit quit something like that, because yeah, I was a singer, 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.920 so of course, like naturally like you took that solve 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.240 the script and was like, I'm gonna sing that. And 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.960 that's when they you're trying to get a coach acting 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.520 lesson out of this. I am. I haven't really missed 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:40.040 the acting lesson. Just tell you if anything that the 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.160 men's will do, I really need you to start teaching 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:47.640 coaching me. Um. Yeah. So I sang it and Tom 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.920 just I was just run out of the room. Yeah. 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.040 So I also not only did I sing it, and 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:58.400 then I knew that the energy was like I connected 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:02.880 and reflected him perfectly right in that moment. So I 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.880 I left the room, I closed the door, and he 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:09.320 come running after me. It was really cool. Where are 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.319 you from? Kid? Something like that. It was like, where 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:20.040 are you from? Kid? I got you? Oh East, there 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.840 we are. There's Jimmy, I'm I'm such a big that 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:25.800 thing you do really excited about this. I had to 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.760 show off my my playtone record. I have the the 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:32.160 single and that thing you do uh with Jimmy there 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.080 on the cover. We uh. We recently had a twenty 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.800 fifth anniversary and we went to Erie, Pennsylvania, where the 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.320 film was set in. I drove up to Lexi, Kentucky, 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.200 picked up Steve's on Tom RBIs, Scott met us and 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.960 we drove all the way to Erie, Pennsylvania because the Eerie, 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.160 Pennsylvania has a smnor League ball club called the Erie 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:54.240 Sea Wolves, and they changed their name to the Eerie 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:58.760 Wonders for one day. It was so much fun. That 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.800 is so cool. Wait so eastern. I didn't know that 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:06.280 you were like a secret. That thing you do it is. 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.720 It is one of my favorite, like top three favorite movies. 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:13.040 I another Thing by Heart and Janna, I don't know 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:14.640 if you remember this, but when we first started work 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:18.160 on the podcast, I asked, I was like, Okay, I 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.320 want to know is the was the I quit part 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.400 in the script or not? Oh? I think I told 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.040 you that it was. You told me and I was 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.920 just like, oh my god, I'm just blown away. I 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:32.880 I think, I like, Jimmy is such an interesting character 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.960 and it's such a fun part of the movie. And uh, 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:37.800 I don't know. I just I've seen it so many 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.560 times and I know you probably got this all the time. 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.680 I'm just a really big fan of that performance. Appreciate that. 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:45.520 And if you guys haven't seen that thing, you do 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.280 watch it because it is one of my and your 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.600 kids can watch it. Yeah, I mean the part when 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.520 they hear them on the radio for the first time, 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:58.000 like it's still to this day, Like I smile so big, 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.080 Like it's such a cool What was it like when 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:04.280 you've heard your first song on the radio? We were 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.760 in the car, you were with me. Yeah, the first 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.280 time I heard why you Want to? We remember, like 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.080 I was. We were in the one on one. I 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:14.600 can't remember. Yeah, I think we were on the one 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.920 on one Los Angeles, which was amazing. It was it 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.480 was it was that moment. Yeah, yeah, but no, it's 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.720 it's pretty cool. But yeah, that's such a good movie. Um, Okay, 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:29.440 So anyways, we met um on that movie, but you 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.040 had just kind of gotten out of a previous marriage, 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:38.280 so I was very much like wanting to like chase you. Yeah, 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.520 and you're like, I'm never getting married, like and I'm 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.080 just like, oh no, but choose me, like love me. 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.480 You would stand outside my door and just constantly knock 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:51.880 on the door. I was like, God's girls crazy. Oh 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:53.640 my god, I feel so bad for her. She's so 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.400 lovely and wonderful and she doesn't know that about herself. 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:04.560 It did not know. And she was so pretty. Remember 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:08.199 I had like two outfits. It was so borne when 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:12.000 you moved in cut two, when she moved in. The closet. 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.600 I never forget when I opened their closet and clothes 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.520 there was hardly any clothes in there, and you know, 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.159 we had to go somewhere, and I was just like, 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.320 you're so used to my ex like having this. Well, 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.240 he was married, and I say he was married to 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:29.800 Christina Applegate previously. So I mean, of course she's ginormous star, 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.120 and so she had a bigger closet, a lot more clothes, 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:40.120 and and Jennen had no clothes. No. But then, um, 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.560 so you were very thrifty and you had really good 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.800 taste in your clothes. Though, thank you, I appreciate it 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.120 was very by the way, he says that, and they 0:17:48.119 --> 0:18:03.200 were all forever twenty one. So I think, yeah, I 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.000 definitely was like on the track of like wanting to 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.680 be like chosen and loved, and um we ended up 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:14.040 getting married. Well there was a long road. It was 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:15.560 a long road. Well here's the thing. Like when I 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:17.520 was on can You Duet? Like I was calling him 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:19.320 in the stall, going John, I don't know what to do. 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:21.840 I don't know what to do, Like they chose me 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.439 and not Diana, like you know what do I do? 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.040 And you were you were the one that you You 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.399 were the one that got me in singing. Remember I 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.399 know I'm a reflector. Yeah, like you were like I 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:38.120 brought out your greatest and he goes, I will propose 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.480 to you when you learn Angel from Montgomery on guitar. 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:43.359 And I went home and I was like, how am 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:45.679 I gonna learn this as fast as I get on guitar? 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:51.920 Make me an angel? Yeah from Montgomery? And so I 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:56.600 was just like yeah, I just I wanted that, and um, 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.240 but we ended up. Yeah. One of the times was 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.040 I had we have broke up a good zillion times 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:07.680 because it called Christina every two days. I need Christina 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.199 once or twice when we were fighting, I might have 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.439 got upset and said Christie because it was she was 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:17.640 completely you were my Christina. I was trying to fill 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:21.000 that void of my broken heart that I so I 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.840 would accidentally call you by that name when we really 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.480 would get angry at one another, and you'd be like, see, 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:30.800 I think that's it, that's it, but I think we're 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.680 going to do with me everything. And you know there's 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:36.679 truth to that. So that was the one thing that 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:40.200 I really wanted to tell you, is that I try 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:43.520 to make you something that you weren't. I wasn't healed, 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.920 I hadn't taken time to heal myself from that broken heart, 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:54.439 and and I I just wanted you to shine and 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:58.520 not me to shine at the same time. And I 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.439 was so happy that I was able to do something 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:06.119 with you that brought out these qualities that you had, 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.439 but I forgot about me and that's not fair to you. 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.520 And I think I'm the thank you for saying that. 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:17.560 But I think also on that was I was trying 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.639 to fill a void and there was no way you 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.199 could have ever filled my need for love and my 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.720 respect for myself and love for myself. Like I was 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:31.800 just always wanting to be loved and desired and chosen. 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:35.199 And you could have chosen me ten times over, but 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:38.760 I had to choose myself before. Yeah, you know, and 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:43.400 that's why we were always unfortunately, we were two very 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:48.280 unhealed souls that came together kept licking each other's wounds. Yeah. 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:53.000 And and I think there's something beautiful about like recognizing 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:54.960 that and seeing that and knowing that, like, yes, I 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:59.600 hurt you in many ways, you hurt me in many ways. Um, 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:04.639 and we can both go. But we're not bad people. No, 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:08.600 you know, we had wounds that needed to be healed 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:14.760 and um, and we needed to do growth separately and 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:19.000 so and I've always felt bad about that. And so 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:20.919 I remember I reached out to you when I was 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:22.840 married to Mike. This is before I found out about 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:25.400 the affairs and stuff. I said, hey, do you mind 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.080 if I email my ex Jonathan because I just have 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:30.359 a lot of I was like, I don't like negative 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:33.560 energy out in the universe, and I just I feel 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:34.680 bad for some of the things that I did in 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:37.199 that relationship and I just want to say I'm sorry. 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:40.240 And so I emailed you. What did you do? What? 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:41.600 What did you do? What? Do you what do you 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:47.520 emailed you? Yeah, that's about what about which time? Where 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:53.960 are we? This is just before Dancing with the Stars. Well, 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:57.040 I don't know what that is. When before when I 0:21:57.080 --> 0:22:00.359 was married to Mike, and this was before I found up, 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:05.119 before cheating, so you got there's like there's been so 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.840 many layers of that. I mean, come on, just track 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:14.160 before Okay, yes, before I was Jolie was maybe two 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:17.919 months old. Okay, okay, we're there because you moved to 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:20.880 l A again. Yes, yeah, that's you reached out because 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.520 you wanted more coaching, you wanted my acting. But I 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:25.399 really do have an audition coming up for Netflix, and 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:28.000 I really wanted so I really could use your help. Um, 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:32.119 but no, so but I emailed you and you wrote 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:35.240 back and you were just like, I'm married and not 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:37.040 that I wanted to get Obviously I was married too, 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.840 but I just wanted but you were just wasn't received, 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:44.040 which is okay some people maybe just the relationship. You 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:47.199 didn't want to. And then she wind up being in 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:52.560