WEBVTT - Star Wars: A New Hope with Sam Jay 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.360 On the beck dol Cast, the questions asked if movies 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:07.000 have women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:11.200 and husbands, or do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:16.479 in best start changing it with the Bechtel Cast. Hello 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:19.200 and welcome to the Bechtel Cast. I'm your host Caitlin 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:22.919 Darante and your other host, Jamie Loftus, is en route 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:25.000 and en route how do you say it? I don't 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.600 know because she's stuck in traffic and we have to 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:31.400 get started because our guest here has somewhere else to 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:34.720 go soon. So just a quick recap of what this 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.680 podcast is all about. Um. It's inspired by the Bechtel test, 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:43.160 which is an analysis of narrative works, books, movies, things 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.640 like that, where we discover whether or not there are 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.120 more than two women, If so, do those two female 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.239 characters talk to each other? And if so, is it 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.520 about something other than a man. We take a movie, 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:56.440 different movie every week, we talked about it, We bring 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:00.800 a guest, and we discuss it's female characters. So, without 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.880 much further ado, let me introduce our guests for this week. 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.160 Sam Jay. She's a comic and she's great and we 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.759 love her. Hey, what's thanks for being here? Um, yeah, 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.240 I'm glad to be here. Is gonna be fun. You're 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.440 talking about one of my favorite movies. Tell us, tell 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:19.800 us the movie New Hope Star Wars episode for Yeah, 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.600 what does this movie mean to you? I mean, I'm 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.720 a big Star Wars fan and I f like, uh A, 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:27.480 New Hope was just the first one I ever saw it, Like, 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:29.680 I watched him in order when I was maybe like 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.360 seven with my mom. The New Hope was the first 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:34.240 one I saw it. It made me follow the story, 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:36.880 and I'm a pretty much I'm a door for like 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.760 stuff that sets up the story. I like that. I 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.399 like those those movies that kind of give me all 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.560 the players, you know what I mean. And it's one 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:46.200 of those that kind of gives you all the players 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.280 and why it is and what it is and it's 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.880 so it's just one of my favorites. Yeah, it just 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:57.240 introduces you to the world that I've I've been into 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:01.440 ever since. Yeah, this is a tangent, But you revealed 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:05.880 to me that your favorite Star Wars movie is episode three, 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:11.280 and I decided to disown you as a friend for 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:15.359 few days after learning that. But we're back We're back, 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:21.120 as friends said, was the best one. Yeah, yeah it is. 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.680 It's just dope. It's just dope from getting in the 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.960 end you get it's I mean like I silow, I 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.640 love a thing that kind of puts puts the end 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:31.880 of the beginning on. So for me, it's like explains 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.000 all of it. Now you get all of it. You 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:38.480 get why Vaders Vader? You get you get all luka 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.640 la coming from. All the pieces are now finally together. 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.640 How openI wan Invader's relationship you know parted ways? Like 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.320 what how did it head that? Why is he in 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.960 that suit? Now we know like all questions are answered 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.280 and it's but you wouldn't appreciate that. How do you 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:58.600 already not known like all the information from episodes four right, 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.799 but it's still it still gave you. Buddy's turned to 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:05.480 y'allold just turn Anakin's turn want It's like everybody's turning up. 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.560 It's full turn up in Yeah, in the original trilogy, 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.239 everyone's like old yeah, Like you get to see Yoda, 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.880 like really will the lifesaber and like there was so 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.480 many gangster parts, like when the clones all turning and 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.919 Yoda was standing there, which you Bok with the two 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.480 eas and then there was like the little uh not 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.359 Stone Troopers, but the other clothes, the Clones whatever they are, 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:29.000 those little robots and they were about to like turn Yoda, 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.000 and Yoda just jumped behind them and cut their head off, 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.000 and it was like, all right, let's roll, Like come on, 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:34.920 I'm Yoda, Like really you thought I was gonna do 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.080 that to me? Like that's crazy? He just dipped. That 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.840 was It was dope. So many dope parts in that movie. Yeah, 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:45.240 I guess I revisited. It's so good if you insist 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:50.320 it's great. So normally I do at no one's request 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:54.720 but my own a recap of the story. But we 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.240 were hanging out the other day and you gave me 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.640 a synopsis of the movie Roadhouse, which I was familiar with, 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.600 and you did such a great job that I was 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.000 wondering if you would want to do the recap for 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:08.280 a New Hope. All right, so I watched a Love 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:13.040 Star Wars, so they kind of like bleeding Yeah, so 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.560 you're just chiming and I might need you on the 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:19.160 strong ending. But from what I call you know, the 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:22.240 New Hope is our introduction to a young Loop Skywalker 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.880 he's on a tattoo which is just like a desert planet, 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.640 and he's like, man, this ship is boring, like tattoo 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.120 black as fuck, but it's on his uncle like you 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.760 gotta stay here, y'all because like we got rhubob season 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.000 coming up and we need you for that harvest. And 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.880 he's like, but there's a whole life out here off tattooing. 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.279 I'm just trying to be like a real nigger and 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.960 they're like nah. So then like robot shows up, like yo, 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.760 oh ship, this is a random mass robot. It looks 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.440 like what the hell? And then he touched robot and 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.520 it's a message from a hot bitch that's like mad flies. 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.680 So she's like, yo, I'm mad sexy and I'm asta 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.560 stuck and he's like I'm gonna save this chick because 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:01.600 i ain't got nothing else to do, and yeah. Yeah. 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:05.680 So that brings us to about twenty minutes into then 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:09.159 he's like, so he meets Obi Wan. Yeah, he beats 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.279 Obi Wan and he's like everyone's like creeping around and 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.680 he's like, who's this old crazy dude? And his aunt 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.520 and his uncle know was obi Wan day? Like No, 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.920 he's just a crazy old dude. They't been what we 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.479 want to start to like being like, yo, man, I 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.119 know you feel it like this places whack, you should 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.760 be not at this place, and looks like, yo, you're crazy, 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.680 but you making somebsense to me, you know what I mean? 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.560 And so then everyone was like, yeah, I'm just tell 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.400 you real, bro, like Jedies is real. I'm one of 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:36.120 them niggas. I could teach you how to be one 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.400 of them niggas because you've got the forcing you money in. 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:40.600 And then looks like I'm down for that because this 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.280 board is hell and I don't want to be picking 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:46.080 rubobs my whole life. And then they go. So they 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.000 go to most Nicely and they meet because the uh 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:52.279 we forgot to mention the Empire, and there after the 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:56.000 two droids that have come into Luke's possession to escape. 0:05:56.040 --> 0:06:00.280 So then they go and meet Han Solo and Youka, 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.039 so yeah they did. They had a bounce because the 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:06.640 Empire they always losing droids. They're always losing their droids 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:10.240 with information and stuff. So they capture some Georys lost 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.520 some Joys, and Joys have vital information. They're trying to 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.120 get the Joys back. Luke gets a possession of joys. 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.080 They got a bounce so over once like we got 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.200 to dip dip dive or we want still feels the 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.200 force and stuff like they move and shaking bumping a 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.960 Han Solo and Chewbacca. Han Solo is like a bad 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:33.600 as Galaxy like pirate like smuggles smuggler like bootlegger type dude. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.960 So he's making all types of bare looking nerve hurder. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.560 But that's just me, all right, I would say, Yeah, 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.359 he's like a bootlegger of the galaxy. You know, theyking 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.920 making slime deals, moving illegal contrabands around in the millennial 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.360 millennial falcon with Chewbacca, you know what I'm saying, and 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.720 looking them hook up and they just distracted Tons Solo 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.520 from like his real naked task, you know what I mean. 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:56.760 He's like, I'm not really here for all that. I 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.839 just like to get money and fus y'all got me 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.080 and all his other stuff, right, So they mean they 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.719 link up with him and then but they get captured 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.480 by the death Star. Yeah, doesn't like catching them and 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:12.559 a little a little little like the rain their beam 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:17.840 of control control. So then they have to like be 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:21.440 all sneaky and they managed to like evade the like 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.120 the stormtroopers for a hot minute, and then they beat 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.280 some of them up. They do the old switcher. They 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:28.600 put the store and trooper suits on because like that's 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.840 how you break into stuff, and then they get up 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:32.440 in there like yo, we would, y'all. But then when 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:33.840 they get up in then they take their homes off 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.400 like now we us. And then they go and rescue 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.000 Princess Leah up out of that ship like, yo, girl, 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:40.800 we knew he was up in hand. We came to 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.080 get you. And Hans like, wait a minute, she's bad. 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.400 I'm kind of glad I came on this trip. Yeah, 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.360 but so it's Luke. It was like, oh I like 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.120 her too. It was like I got a voted for 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:53.040 they both go. They got and then so they managed 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:57.080 to escape after some ruffles and scuffles, but not before 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:01.280 there's a face off between Obi Wan and Darth Vader. Yes, 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.920 and that's the that's the apprentice and the teacher getting 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:06.920 it back on since we want to cut off all 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:10.440 his limbs is stuff. If he's like, now I'm super ill, 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.840 obi Wan, and I'm definitely gonna kill you because like 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.240 I got so much anger towards you by man, and 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.480 everyone's like, I know you're gonna kill me. That's how 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.080 ill I am in the Force. Then I'm just chilling, bro, 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.320 I'm ready to die. Baby. Then they go at it. 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.320 He kills really kind of just lets it happen. And 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.720 then he wants like, now I'm super dupid ill with 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:32.240 the Force because I'm am the Force. He's a forced ghost, 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.959 which we learn you see you're like, here's like voice over. 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.480 He's like ghost voiceover later in the movie. But then 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:43.480 you see his like ghost form. Yeah. So then, uh, 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.880 Luke is all sad about it, even though he knew 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.040 Obi Wan for maybe a day, like two days, but 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.720 we won't put him on a lot, so that's reasonable 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.040 that he was hurt by it. So and then plus 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.240 like Luke's just like Yo, Vader is not a good dude. 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.120 Like he's just out heads thatching up hose off the galaxy. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.160 Now he just killed on my man's He's doing a 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.360 lot of reckless stuff. Yeah. So then they regroup and 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.600 they go to a rebel base and they like analyze 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:11.920 the plans to destroy the Death Star. Meanwhile, Han, it's 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:13.880 all like I was listening this for the money I 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.079 got my money, I got my reward, peace out, see 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.720 you later. And then Luke and some other pilots go 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:23.160 and try to destroy the death Star and they do 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.120 right they do, and then I said, and they blow 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:29.360 it up. Han comes back and he's like just kidding him, back, 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.800 I've got a heart of gold. He's I can't leave. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.880 I can't leave a heaven left, which is the same thing. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:40.240 And um, this episode seven friends come out, I can't 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.839 be here. I gotta leave because these people they just like, no, 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.480 I can't leave my boot. Hang out with my boot. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:46.960 And that's why Hans kind of his medt to it, 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:48.400 because Hans like, I used to try to leave my 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:52.720 host too. But I'm gonna tell you I did not 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.319 do that, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, because you're 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:59.160 not a Jedi doesn't mean you can't train other people 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.720 to do. It's really fitting in the same position as Hunt. 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:03.679 He's not a Jedi either. He's just rolling with it. 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:05.240 He's just rolling, you know what I'm saying. So he's 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.839 kind of the same character, just in a different form. 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.319 So that's why it's kind of like bringing on his tutelage, 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.760 you know what I mean. Yep, I got you so 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.360 that's pretty much the Star. And then they blow up 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:16.200 the Death Star and then there's a little ceremony at 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:20.240 the end with that T shirt and they yeah, they do, 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.360 they blow it up. And that's when like, now Vader 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:28.199 has to like recognize like, y'all the forces with the forces, 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.720 this disruption of force and the and the life side 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.560 of forces, you know, coming back, and that the Jedi 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:41.400 may return. Oh shit, but there's a whole movie in 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:45.360 between that and the Jedi returning Empire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:49.640 but we're not here. We're not We're going. Yeah, we're 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.760 gonna focus on a new hope. We're talking about this 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.080 to sort of coincide with the release of Rogue one, 0:10:56.000 --> 0:11:00.239 which is coming out soon. So we're gonna talk about 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:05.440 the female characters, of which there are two ones with 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.920 speaking roles. And then I don't know if anyone else 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:12.319 noticed this. I didn't notice this until this recent viewing. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:17.079 There are two women in the Cantina scene when they're 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.560 at most easily trying to get on the Millennium falcon. 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:23.960 Are we counting alien women as well? Well? It's hard 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.000 since we're not familiar with those alien species, it's hard 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.160 to tell some of them got titties though, so you know, 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.480 oh yeah, well yeah they do in Return of the 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:37.600 Jedi for sure. In fact, some of them had more 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:42.839 than two titties. Some of them had like Nate. But 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.560 in a New Hope, you only see in that cantina 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:50.400 seem there's a like a pair of twins women who 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.720 are just hanging out getting drink or whatever. Other than that, 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:59.319 there is Princess Leia, and there's Aunt Brew and Brew 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.760 has maybe five minutes of screen. Yeah, She's like, you 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:08.040 don't need to know anything about your life, Luke. That's 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:13.440 more his uncle, so Brew is. She kind of stays 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.520 silent until the end of that scene where Luke kind 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.439 of storms off. He's like, what you're making me stay 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.679 on for another season? I want to go to the 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:24.600 academy this year. Me me. His uncle is all like whatever, 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.199 I'll make it up to him next year, and she's like, 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:31.360 you're fucking idiot. He has too much of his father. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.920 that's actually she's pro let him go. Yeah, that's right. 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.200 You all messed up. So that's pretty cool. But yeah, 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.400 like and then the next scene time we see her, 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:46.400 she's a burnt up corpse. That's like all fried and sizzled. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.960 she has very little got that work. So the most 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.880 notable female character is our friend Princess Leah. She's actually 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.679 introduced really early on in the story. We meet her 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.920 before we get Skywalker. No, even before that. There's a 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:05.359 scene the first sequence we see is the like Imperial 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.720 troops boarding I don't even know which ship they're on 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:14.480 or whatever, but like, uh, Darth Vader. I almost hesitated 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.480 to do an episode about Star Wars because there's gonna 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:18.439 be so many nerds listening at home and being like, oh, 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.079 the name of the ship is this, and it's this 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.120 model and this they're on this planet, blah blah blah, 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:30.680 and I know what happened. I only know the Star 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:35.840 Wars information I have is what has been in episodes 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.000 one through seven. I haven't read any comic books. I 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:43.080 don't know anything that's cannon that has been established through 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:48.839 like we're fans. Yeah exactly. Sometimes I have sex very 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.800 very not just watching, not very often, not very often 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.640 at all, but often enough where I don't have time 0:13:56.080 --> 0:14:05.480 to read busy so anyway, so I only know like 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.120 the names of the planets that are mentioned in the movie. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.800 I'm not all into I know what's going on, and 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:14.000 I'm into the story of it, the battle vers and 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:17.000 evil and the idea of you being in control of 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.560 your energies and your destiny and all that good stuff, 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:21.560 but I don't get down to all the like nay 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.560 gritty details. So apologies to all the uber fans out there. Sorry, 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.720 I'm probably not gonna like get all the names right 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.680 everything anyway. So they're they're boarding the ship and Darth 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.560 Vader busting. He's like, oh, you're a rebel spot She's like, 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.960 I'm on a diplomatic mission to all. Yeah, that's you're 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:43.280 a rebel spy and your piece of ship have come fight. 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.080 And then I think that's when he takes her prisoner's again. 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.560 We learned though that she's like able to wield a 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.640 gun though, because and then she runs away and they're like, fusers, 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.480 just done or whatever, and then they stun her and 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.280 then they take her prisoner so that she does not 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:04.120 appear on screen again, I don't think until fifty four 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:08.200 minutes into and we're not talking about via Holograu, so yeah, 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:12.720 technically she's on screen when she's Okay. Our other host, 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:19.760 Jamie lock welcome, How are you my hamsters in? Safe 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.320 and good? Oh yeah, you had to drop off your 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.320 hamster for hamster sitting because you're going back out of 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:29.280 town expectedly long hamster errand yeah, well I had to 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.560 make small talk with the hamster city, like I can't 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:33.840 just be like, here's my animals, see you in a week. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:39.440 But oh sure, sure you're a good person. I'm just 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:44.280 a bad driver. Mostly we're good. We've been um, we've 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.400 been chatting Star Wars good. So yeah, we were just 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.120 we recapped the movie and we were just starting to 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:53.200 introduce who the female characters were. We uh, there are 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.800 a total of I think for them that I counted 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:58.920 that you can see on screen. Only two of them 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.840 have speaking roles. And we were just talking about Princess Leiah. 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:04.840 We meet her early on and then we see her 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.000 again as a hologram, and that's when Luke is all like, 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.760 who is she? She's beautiful? Do I know she's my sister? 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.080 But man, do I want to fuck her? We've all 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:19.760 been there, We've in there. She's the most notable female 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.840 character in episode four, but there are huge chunks of 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.480 time where she is not on screen at all or 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.800 if she is, she's in the version of a hologram, 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.120 which means she's not really doing anything to influence the story. 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:35.600 She's like, he's like an exposition the machine, because what 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.000 does she say, first, we only hearsay helped me. I'll 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:39.960 be one Kenobi, You're my only hope. And then a 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.280 little later on they play back the entire message, which 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.680 is like, I've stored information that's vital to the destruction 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:48.840 of the death Star into this droid. Help me obi 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.200 wan Kenobi. Yeah, she's a plot tool. Yeah, at least 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:57.840 in the first act. She appears on screen again, not until, 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:02.320 like I said, fifty four minutes into the movie, because 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.040 there's a huge gap where like Luke and Han or 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:08.520 like figuring shut out. She shows up again, and I 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.600 think like the Empire is interrogating her, trying to figure 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:15.280 out where the rebel bases, and she's like d'antoine and 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:19.880 they're like, okay, let's blow up all drawn anyway, Um, 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.920 that seems pretty short, and then she disappears again for 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.800 another several minutes and doesn't show up again until an 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.959 hour and thirteen minutes into the story. Mind you, this 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:33.480 is only a two hour film and that's when that's three. Yeah, 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.480 so this is like their for their third time on 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.320 screen an hour and thir minutes into it, and that's 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.880 when Luke goes to rescue her in the detention cell 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.600 that she's being held captain him. So an instance of 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:49.160 a man having to save a woman, one of those 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:53.040 really fun tropes. She joins the gang after that, she's 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:57.840 like part of the Little Scooby Crew and we see 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:01.480 her do some pretty bad ass things, but she's pretty 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.240 she's pretty raged. The end kind of redeems her a 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.800 little bit because she gets to actually do stuff. For example, 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.640 after they've rescued her, the stormtroopers are shooting at them 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.280 and she's like, well, you didn't have a get out? 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:17.720 What the And then so she like takes putters into 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.400 her own hands and she's like, oh, this is some rescue. 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:30.399 She grabs Luke's blaster fire, she shoots a hole in 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.639 the wall. Somebody has to save our skins. It doesn't 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:39.280 make a door come down, and she just blasted. She 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.199 dives in. She goes into the garbage shoot boy. She 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:47.159 says to han Clo, which is great, and then everyone 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.520 dives in and then they end up in a thing 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:53.840 with the trash. And then when they're in there, the 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:59.840 walls whenever women take charts, they mucket all as we 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:06.120 are conditioned to believe via mainstream American cinema. And there's 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:07.639 a line of dialogue about that, but I'll get to 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:09.840 that in a second. So then they all land in 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.760 the trash compactor and then the walls start closing in 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.680 on them, and Lucas just like, dude, the walls are 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.560 moving and she's like, don't just stand there, bracelet with something. 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:23.840 So she was like taking initiative. She's like because she's 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:25.600 been through stuff though, I mean, that would make sense. 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:27.800 Like Luke doesn't know anything. He's just coming from Tatoy. 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.280 He's like fresh off the boats. Like he just he 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.120 just trying to get it popping, you know what I mean. 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.360 She like, she's been through some stuff. She's hiding secrets, 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:37.880 she's stolen stuff. She she goes up a little bit. 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.880 She does, she does for sure. Then there's a line 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:44.000 of dialogue that I never picked up on until this 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:48.000 most recent viewing this rewatch, where after they get out 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.879 of the trash compactor, Han says, well, if we can 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:53.240 avoid any more female advice, we ought to be able 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.800 to get out of here. Yeah, I was right because 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:59.600 what I was thinking as I was thinking, yeah, yeah, 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.440 way to pick that up the only one who did 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:07.440 anything to like because she was moving irrationally. It didn't 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:09.640 give Han time to think of a better plan. Han 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:15.480 had no In fact, Han was either way, but she tried. 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:19.280 She she made an attempt. Yeah, but that was also 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.480 I think, like, I mean, of course it speaks to 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:23.040 show it doesn't not that, But I also think it 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.879 was com Hans's character, like he could never be wrong 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:28.920 or not in charge. Sure, yeah, you know what I mean. 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:32.720 He would have said anything to anyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.920 exactly if it was Luke's I didn't, well, we could 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:41.040 afford dumb kid IBox like true. But what bugged me 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.560 about that was not just the line itself, but that 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:49.080 like Leah wasn't like fuck you dude, she didn't have 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:53.120 a com back for Her comeback was to deny him 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.600 the pussy, Yeah, which is the ultimate. She was like me, 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.840 hanging at this box, keep talking like talking like that, 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:04.440 She's gonna go her brother. That's hurtful. You're like, I 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:09.879 don't want to. You said, it's revenge. She made a 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:14.000 work harder for it. There's a couple of scenes later 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:16.639 they're trying to get across the bridge. They're still in 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.840 the Death Star. Luke is like doing crap. He's I 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:22.520 don't who knows what he's doing. The Stormtroopers are like 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:24.200 trying to get through the door on the other side. 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:26.560 She takes the gun and starts like shooting people, and 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.800 she's a better shot than Han or Luke because everybody 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:34.920 misses everybody every time they shoot it somewhere like these 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.760 people have the worst aim. I was confused about that 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:40.280 because when I was like, does it not hurt if 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:41.800 you get hit by one of those? But I was like, oh, 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.040 they're just missing everybody. No one can It was like 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:48.600 sucking paintballers. Which is hilarious because earlier in the movie, 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:53.320 Obi Wan's like, only Imperial Troopers are this precise because 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:58.320