WEBVTT - Geoff Ogilvy - 2020 U.S. Open Recap 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.280 Welcome back to another edition of the Fried Egg Podcast. 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.800 Today's episode is brought to you by our friends over 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:12.800 at Greater Than. Greater Than is one of our first sponsors, 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.360 one of the first people that jumped on supporting the 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:16.760 Fried Egg and they are back. 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:19.600 They have had a ton of success. 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.120 They have a coconut water sports drink and it's been 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.400 out of stock like most of the year, they've been 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:27.440 selling out so quick, but they just got a big 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.840 shipment in and this stuff is awesome. It is a 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:35.600 healthy way to hydrates. 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Obviously, everybody's going to focus 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:20.039 in on the long drives, but all in all, he 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.720 was clearly the best player in the field and he 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.280 put on quite a display. So I was really interested 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:29.759 to talk to Jeff about this weekend. Obviously he had 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:33.479 won the last time the US Open was at Wingfoot 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:38.600 and it was a dramatically different style of golf. As 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:42.600 a quick note, thank you all for those who entered 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:48.360 the Victory Club giveaway of the tickets we have winners. 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:54.080 Eric Cubulus, Sorry pronunciation is not my strong suit. You 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.080 have won to set to tickets to next year's US Open, 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:01.720 and then Joseph Uran. So thanks to everybody that supported 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.920 us and entered that and signed up for the Victory 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.040 Club and mark that the Friday Eggs sent you there. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.160 So without further ado, here is Jeff Ogilvie. 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:12.280 I miss the green. 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.000 For example, I'm already upset when I find my ball 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:16.480 in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:17.880 And when I find my ball. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.480 In a fried egg Friday egg, the dreaded Frida egg 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.600 Frida egg Frida egg fried egg, Frida egg bride egg Lie. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.640 I'm about ready to run off of the hump course. 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.000 How much of that did you watch with the time difference. 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.040 I watched probably the last couple of hours every day. 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:42.760 I mean it kind of finishes about eight in the 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:44.720 morning here, so I was kind of starting from about 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:48.080 six in the morning. I've developed a bad call at 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:49.320 you do you have it late at night? So I 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:53.200 wasn't getting up to too early in the morning. So 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:54.440 I watched the last couple of hours and off I 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.919 watched the lastn holes on Monday morning, which was the 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.200 last round, and sure enough I watched the highlights. My 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:04.080 we've got this good package here on the where we 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.040 sign up to get the sport package. 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:07.320 Here's not actually on cable. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.880 It's like a Netflix kind of thing here, so you 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.000 pay a subscription, you get all the sport. So I 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.079 can watch it delayed as well. I can just I've 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:18.639 got the archive kind of So I watched the fevoritive it. Yeah, 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.960 just interested to see the course looked awesome. I was jealous, 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:22.600 but not jealous. 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:22.800 You know. 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:26.639 I got to ask if you run across Tiger and 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.560 your call of duty late nights. 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.440 Oh well, he loves it. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.840 You'd be surprised how many people do actually it's just 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.200 lockdown thing. I mean, it's really it's a competitive outlet, 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:38.720 right for someone who's not getting to go out there 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.040 and be competitive. It's good fun and the boys and 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.120 the bit of banter. It's all the banter really, you know, 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:44.440 the trash talk. 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:44.800 It's that. 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.600 It's fantastic. I hear he's right into it though. He'd 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:49.840 be competitive as. 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.280 Like super into it and haws for like years. 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:58.840 Yeah, it's one of those things if you're a military guy, 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.200 it's kind of that you would for him. I imagine 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.800 it's like kind of fulfilling that side of his dream, 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.400 you know. Anyway, it's a competitive outlet. It's fun and 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.320 it's banter with the boys, and it's trash talk and 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.760 it's harmless. It's no different from a pick up basketball 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:16.240 game or something. It's just on a screen, right. But anyway, Yeah, what. 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:17.080 Do you think of the course? 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.200 It looked really good, looked nice, I thought. I mean, 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.200 I thought, again, they'd probably set it up a bit 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:24.640 narrow and stuff. 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:25.839 But that's. 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.800 We can that's part of part of the discussion, I think. 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.680 But yeah, it look great, looked really good. The green 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:38.400 surfaces look better like late summer rather than early I 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:43.159 think those they haven't really had a lot of sun 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.520 and growth time by June, you know, a wing foot 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:49.480 really three months or something right September. As a whole, 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.560 there's a whole nother there's a whole the end of 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.520 summer and courses in that area that it's so much 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.040 better in the fall than they are in the spring. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:59.240 So yeah, from that respect, it looked brilliant and gills 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.440 stuff like, the looks so much that just pushed back 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:02.919 out to those kind of odd shapes and stuff. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.360 It was grouse. Yeah, they look so good. 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:09.200 I remember you describing the greens as like ropeye in 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.560 the afternoon when you played it. 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:13.720 Yeah, O six, they were rough. 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.640 I mean, it wasn't anything other than it was probably 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:18.040 too early in the year for the greens. They have 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.080 one hundred and fifty six guys when they were rolling 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.480 at fifteen on the stem, you know, like all the factors, 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.599 and they just got to that point where the soft 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.960 spikes of the spikes would leave those imprints and they 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.200 wouldn't come back out, you know when they stay in. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.040 And so by the end of the day it was 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.640 like the surface of the moon. Like trying to hold 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.720 three foot is but that was Thursday and Friday, and 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:38.520 then the weekend they were okay, you know, because they 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:40.960 had sixty guys on them, not one hundred and fifty six. 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.480 That's less caddies unless everybody around the holes. So yeah, 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.360 they were ropey. But that's the hallmark of the US Open, 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:51.440 to be fair, like generally most of them that they 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.600 push them that hard. 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:55.480 They look good from the. 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.760 Edge of the green, you know, but when you're actually 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.440 down there like squatting and have a look and the 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:03.640 shadows getting over the little bumps and stuff, so they're 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.400 rough at the end often, But that's part of tournament golf. 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:10.640 I think if people have played big tournaments have often 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.960 got like that. You know that the greens look almost 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:15.839 you know, he's kind of killed them this week to 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:17.720 test us a much. You know, they get really dry 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:19.719 and they just get all messed up by Sunday, and 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.440 good putters whole puts in those situations. You know that 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.160 part of the tiger hold at Tory when you see 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:26.720 the worms eye view of that, that gives you an 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:28.720 idea of what they can be like at the end. 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.400 There's just nuts that that ball went were later went in, 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:33.640 you know, But. 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:34.080 That's the thing. 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.520 Great putters whole puts on greens like that. So I've 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:40.240 always liked that side of championship golf. But saying that, 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.000 when you turn back up in the morning and the 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:46.280 green like Thursday afternoon, the greens are rubbish because they're 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.760 just worn out. Friday morning, they're immaculate, like no one's 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:50.520 been on them again. I mean, they can get them back. 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.600 It's just too many people in twenty four hours. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:52.520 You know. 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.400 Yeah, the first tea time early or second tea time 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.159 off in the morning at a tournament is that you 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:00.680 just are putting on glass. 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:01.560 Just unbelievable. 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:02.160 It's good. 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.520 It's so nice because especially the Friday morning, because you've 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.680 had Thursday afternoon, the ball has been bouncing around. You're like, 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.200 you're a nice skirl to go. I gotta go out 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.160 and do that again. And in the morning it's just pristine. 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:11.080 It's like, oh, how good is this? 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.239 It's nice. Such a difference, big difference. 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:17.120 What uh what did you think of the edges? Did you? 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.800 I was thinking about it because you know a lot 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.920 of people were complaining about how you know, the rough 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.760 didn't matter, but some of the back edges, the wings, 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.640 which I think are really cool. Bring the ball back 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.560 that would have when you guys played it, No. Six, 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:35.840 that would have ended up. 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:36.240 In the rough. 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:38.520 Yeah. Absolutely. 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:40.760 I mean the greens looked, the shapes of the grains 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:44.880 are so cool that you when you play it, you 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.120 don't know that the drone footage is so good for 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.640 that to like expose. There's like square fronts and like 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.160 straight edges and like weird little shapes and stuff. And 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:58.760 I think you only see that on courses that have 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.640 either been untouched from that golden age or they've been 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:06.120 restored right and it was they didn't have like Mickey 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.440 mouse ear looking greens back then. 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:09.720 You know, big circles. 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.520 They actually just fit what they fit into the place, 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.720 and sometimes they they're really odd shapes and they're just 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.520 so beautiful to look at because they're all different, like 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.679 if anything. At Wingfoot, you've got eighteen really different greens, 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:25.560 but all within a theme, you know, which is why 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:30.240 a big reason why everybody loves it. To be fair, 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.600 there's probably lots of great courses, especially in Westchester County, 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:37.880 that have similar sort of vegetation and holes and they're 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.640 really kind of really well designed. Great courses like Quaker 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:42.920 and Westchester, and there's a bunch of others that I 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:49.240 don't know, Like Wingfoot's got the greens, you know, and 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.400 that's just what elevates any course above I mean the 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:54.559 hallmark of the best course of the world. They all 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:58.200 have really unique, really crazy, really fun greens, you know, 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:05.240 be it Augusta Shin National Old Course, Ron Melbourne, Pine Valley. 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.160 The greens are nuts and they're really fun and they're 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:08.920 really interesting. And wing Futs another one. 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:13.800 You know, I was thinking, like the truly iconic championship 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:18.520 courses that have endured hundreds, you know, one hundred years 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.319 all have pretty much great greens. You know, you think 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:27.559 about like Pebble, Oakmont, Shenacock, you know Country Club. 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:29.800 Yeah, like PV. 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.880 Chicago, Chicago Go of Course's got outrageously cool greens. You know, 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.200 all the McDonald Rainer courses are cool greens. I mean, 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.719 Pinehurst has very unique greens and my favorite, but they're 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:40.360 super unique. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:40.600 Right. 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:42.960 Yeah, that would be another one that's in there. 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.320 That's that's really the whole courses about the greens and 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.640 everything else is dictated by all those great courses. That's 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:52.080 the harmark goverment, right, And then it's the really great 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:53.959 ones up a great hole before that green as well, 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.440 you know, but a great you can I mean the 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.120 first whole wings for it's a perfect example of a 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.920 nothing piece of land and a really great hole, you know, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.240 because of one great green that was actually basically man 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.560 made at the end of a relatively flat piece of land. 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.800 Like it's outrageously good, cool, isn't it. So it shows 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.360 you what a green can do because it's You've played 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:13.960 plenty of first holes that look like the first time 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.679 the West Coast at Wingfoot, but none as good as 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.360 that as a first hole really because of the way 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.920 the green goes. So I think it's just super important. 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:24.800 I mean everybody knows that. I think when they built 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:26.760 a golf course, I just think those guys had such 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:30.520 a gift, you know, maybe the gift of less information, 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.000 you know, they hadn't they didn't have all these like 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.240 potential things that they could do because of all the 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.079 machines and the technology. They just kind of pushed it 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.000 around until it kind of worked, you know, until the 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.280 water rolled off and the boar would stay on slopes 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:43.520 and we could put some pins there in there and 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.280 there and see what happens. And that looks like how 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:46.880 they made it. You know, they didn't go in with 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.880 a plan. They just pushed dir around until it worked. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.120 It looks like, you know, and that might be a 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:58.520 bit more organic and interesting. It's why the greens the 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.440 last hurd years often look very similar. But back then 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:03.520 they were all variety, right, because they didn't have a 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.120 system like a USGA system to build a green, so 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.800 they just kind of made it work in each spot, 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:10.400 which might be a more interesting way to do it. 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:10.840 I don't know. 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.920 I think also they the speeds that they built it 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:18.640 for help because they weren't. I feel like today everybody 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.000 has to think about this. You know, this is a 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.400 pin position here, this is a pin position there. And 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.319 when they built them, they could be a little bit 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:33.360 more random and bold because almost everywhere it was a 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:37.960 pin position when the greens were rolling, you know six Yeah, 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.120 you know, like you think about how many more pins 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.120 would be on every green. But now people are like, okay, 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.640 this is a pinnable area, and they start to think 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.280 about it that way rather than I'm just going to 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.320 build a really cool green and we're going to find 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:50.800 the pins. 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:54.560 Find out where the pins. We'll find the pins after Yeah. 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:54.640 That's true. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.720 Yeah, they build tournament courses especially they build with four 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.840 pins in mind. They build four pin into their greens, 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.240 you know, which is exactly the opposite of, like you said, 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:04.880 what they did. They just built greens and you guys 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:06.480 will work out where the holes go. Just working out 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.640 later on, you know what I mean, which is kind 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:13.280 of really nice, you know, and that's really sad it does. 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.040 I mean, the old course was effectively was built in 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:17.880 that fashion all the way through. It was just I 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:19.760 will go hit off that direction and then we'll keep 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:21.319 going until we want to turn around and come back. 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.000 And gradually it kind of evolved. 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.400 The bunkers were where the balls that all go down 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.160 and muck all the divots and like everything kind of 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.920 just evolved into the right place and the less humans 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.439 try to manipulate kind of the cooler it ends up, 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.440 which is, you know, which is interesting. 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.680 That's a deep thought that could be applied to the game. 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.840 Well that that actually, I think is a massive application 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.440 at the moment, which I reckon i'd go into but if. 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.520 You want, yeah, go for it, go into it. 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.760 Well, the Bryson thing, right, I guess we're talking about 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.520 the Bryson thing, and the world of golf is going 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.959 to react. Already did react pre wing Foot, but they're 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.000 going to max react after a major right. 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:01.800 At like the. 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:06.360 Change, and everyone's going to look at different sides of it. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.679 I think, you know, the players are a lot of 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:14.120 players can start copying the method or the the genius, 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.120 and is what he does is the further he does 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.600 it with. I think it isn't actually what he works 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:23.079 on per se he's maniacal, it's how he goes about it, 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.800 and it actually keeps him present. Did you see him 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.400 walking out the lart He was on the last hole 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.199 winning the usaving by six, and he's hit the fairway, 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.200 hit the fairway, didn't he on eighteen? I think or 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.840 wherever whatever he was doing, he was in the rough. 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:38.400 He was in the ruck. 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.080 He was in the rough, yeah, because he got up 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:42.360 and down short of the green. 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:43.920 And got up and down from sort of not far 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.920 from where I was. But he he was looking at 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.000 his yards book for two hundred yards off the eighteenth fairway, 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.559 like he's winning by five. He's not like gorging to 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.160 his caddy or how nice is this We're gonna win 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.800 the He's like obsessively looking in the Yards book and 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:58.760 it got to me and it's like, this guy's doing this, 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.400 whether it's on purpose, on it keeps him present. He's 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.400 not thinking about winning the US Open. He's thinking about 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:08.000 the five point five percent whatever on the bounce stuff 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:09.480 that side of that little hill. Will have to note 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:10.960 that for next time I come to Wing for he's 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.280 doing he's occupying his part of his mind that's usually 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.839 worrying that normal people are worrying about winning or losing. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:19.160 You know, He's just so zoned in on his science 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.040 that oh, that's the odd thing th we won, you 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.840 know what I mean, It's actually kind of genius. I 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.720 mean there's some guys like Dustin or Freddie who just 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.240 stand next to the ball and wait for their caddy 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.120 to give him a club kind of I mean, not really. 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.680 I mean they're obviously thinking about it. Or there's the 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.640 extreme end like Bryson. And I think if you're a 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:41.200 guy like Bryson who couldn't stop thinking, he has to 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.080 do it the way he does it, you know, otherwise 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:48.480 he'd be off sideways crazy. But that's my take on him, 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.200 and I think a lot of people will start sciencing 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.600 up and like fat grips and like putting nets in 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:54.520 their house and simulators and try to work on all 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:56.120 the angles and numbers. And I think that'll be probably 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:57.920 good for him. You know, it's fine, but it'll mess 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:00.520 some guys up. I think doing the side its approach. 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.640 That's kind of the thing that I take away most 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:09.880 from this is the stones on Bryson. I mean, he 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.720 was the top fifteen player in the world. He's making 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.960 millions of dollars a year, He's got millions in endorsements, 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:21.640 and he was for the foreseeable future going to make 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.560 millions of dollars a year. And I mean he completely 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:29.240 overhauled his body in his golf game, went and then 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.400 went crazy with it, and it could have not worked 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.640 and he could have been gone off the planet. Like 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.880 how many guys have we seen go off the like 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:40.520 you know, be never seen for five years if they 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:44.280 go chase distance And he successfully did it. But you 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:48.800 were in that same position, top ten player in the world, 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.240 did you ever like think about doing something drastic to 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:54.360 your game like he did. 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:56.880 There's a few moments I wanted to snap all my 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.560 clubs in my bag, which would have been a drastic life. 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.400 No, not really it's amazing what he's doing. 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:06.880 And look, historically, basically everyone who's ever done and what 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.280 he's just done has lost it, completely lost it, like 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.000 never heard from again kind of thing. Anyone usually who 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.360 chase distance, serious distance, as opposed to just letting distance 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.600 be a byproduct of swinging a little bit better. It's 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.000 an outright chasing distance is almost one hundred percent of 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.600 the time been a failure for people so well done, 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.000 like exactly what he says him incredible, incredible, hats off, 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:32.520 and he has he has truly worked out the formula 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.760 to play that setup, that style setup, and you can't 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.200 beat someone who hits it that far. Like that's the 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.040 I think the interesting thing out of this. If you 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.360 go all the way back, it'll be the talk about 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.720 the effect and what about the equipment and blah blah blah. 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:46.880 But if you go all the way back to like 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:51.360 Tiger winning the Masters is ninety seven, yes, and he 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.680 comes out and he's off the old members teaz effectively. 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:55.800 I mean they were just behind the It was way 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:57.080 shorter than ninety seven. 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:57.680 It was ninety eight. 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.560 They put a bit of length on, but sitting wedges 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:02.680 in the nine ninees in I remember they showed the 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.240 comparison clubs of him and Nicholas, Nicholas and sixty five 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.920 and him in ninety seven, and they were a little 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.520 bit different, but it wasn't crazy different. And then the 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:12.520 whole world reacted to that tournament. It's like, well, we've 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.359 got a tigerproof courses. Now we're going to stop this guy. 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:15.760 He was the only guy in the field doing that, 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.000 by the way, hitting wedges into fifteen and nine and 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:19.679 no one else was doing and he won by twelve, 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.919 Like there's always the best guy, right, fine, but the 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:27.119 whole world reacted by, for one of a better word, tigerproofing. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:31.800 And look, distance had been evolving, probably kind of in 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.280 a linear fashion since the day of golf started right gradually, 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:36.960 and I'm sure the guddy ball made a bit of 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.040 a bump and the steel shafts and it was a bump, 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:43.120 but generally from Bob Jones at least till ninety seven, 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.800 it was kind of a linear, kind of gradual thing, right, Yeah, 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:48.919 a few more people further, but it was pretty like 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.359 every year you came out like the guy, the new 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.280 guy who was long tiger. That was like, yeah, that's 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.560 that's a little bit longer than normans did it. That's nuts, 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.960 But it wasn't like this, and. 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:00.000 They tigerproofed golf course. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.640 So so now what pros do This is a long 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:06.000 winded thing, but what pros do is every Sunday night 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:07.960 or every Friday, they miss a carter. Every Sunday or 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.440 every time they're going home. The hymn has caddy, his coach, 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:12.399 the family are going home, kind of going through how 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:13.520 do I get better next week? 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:17.320 What do I do? And in my life career on tour. 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.440 Generally at the start at least and everyone was the same, 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:22.040 and you can pole players and caddies this from fifteen 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.400 twenty years ago. All we did was it was g's 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.240 I got a put better, she's I made a few 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.360 bad decisions. My short game needs to sharpen up. It'd 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:29.560 be really nice if I could hit a few of 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:31.480 those phades with a short UNEs and those right pins whatever. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.200 That was the thing that you would go home trying 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:33.680