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Speaker 1: conversation would be a Twitter hashtag Giants Chat. Today, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna start previewing the Giants two thousand eighteen opponents. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna do every single opponent. I'm gonna kick things off

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Speaker 1: with a divisional foe, the defending Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: And right off the top to provide more perspective on

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, we are joined by a very good friend

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Speaker 1: of the program, and that is Dave's video of Eagles

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Dave, you got Lance medal, pulled the tino

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot com. Appreciate the time. How's everything, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: everything's great. I mean, you know, we're in a break

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Speaker 1: of put it on perspective. And it's been spectacular and

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Speaker 1: this is a good football team. I think the division

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Speaker 1: is excellent, and when July twenty six begins the start

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Speaker 1: of training camp, I'm really excited to see how it all,

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Speaker 1: how it all pends out for the Eagles. With only

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Speaker 1: eight teams ever repeating as Super Bowl champions, we know

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Speaker 1: how hard it is. Well, you know, Dave, let me

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Speaker 1: what about that whole kind of of difficulty of repeating.

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Speaker 1: We know that that the Patriots of the last to

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Speaker 1: thirty years have basically been the only team that's kind

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Speaker 1: of mastered the the art of being the defending champion

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Speaker 1: and winning the ring a second straight season. I mean,

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Speaker 1: everything everybody talks about it. Everybody says, oh, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be the team to break it, but nobody breaks that jinx.

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Speaker 1: It's it's very very painful. How are you guys going

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Speaker 1: to do that? Well, I'll think I certainly appreciate having

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Speaker 1: these last four months, five months going through seeing what

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Speaker 1: my gosh, Well everybody waited in a lifetime for this.

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Speaker 1: Its a matter of uh, understanding that you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: bombarded by friends and family and business opportunities and you

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Speaker 1: feeling great about yourselves knowing that two thousand eighteen nobody

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Speaker 1: cares that you want the super Bowl. You're going into

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Speaker 1: eighteen season, and speaking of the running game, Dave, the

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Speaker 1: All right, I've got one more from me, a Dave.

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Speaker 1: Who will be the X factor? Do you think on

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Speaker 1: this NFL. Tom Brady towards the Eagles for five hundred

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Speaker 1: possing yards and they scored thirty three points. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't exactly the Eagles made the defensive

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Speaker 1: play at the end of the game, but by and

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Speaker 1: large they beat the Patriots because they were able to

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Speaker 1: offensively trade Haymakers with the greatest of all time. So

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Speaker 1: this year the formula has got to be a little

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Speaker 1: bit different. Can't win every game three. The defense has

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Speaker 1: to step up, and there are questions and legitimate ones

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Speaker 1: about the linebacker positions. Dave's video from Philadelphia Eagles dot

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Speaker 1: Com conde enough to weigh in and break down the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles for the two thousand eighteen season. Dave greatly

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Speaker 1: appreciate the time and the inside. I think if there's

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Speaker 1: one thing we could guarantee, Giants Eagles games will probably

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Speaker 1: go down to the wire, as they always do every

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Speaker 1: single season. Yeah, and and by the way, guys, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you've mentioned the NFC East no repeat winner since

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Speaker 1: two thousand three two. It's really amazing. Hey. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a real tug of war, there's no question about it. Dave,

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Speaker 1: thanks again, appreciate it. You got it, Davis, there are

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Speaker 1: kind enough to break down the Philadelphia Eagles first, a

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Speaker 1: lot of great information in terms of some of their

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Speaker 1: injuries and how those players are coming along. And you know,

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Speaker 1: as he indicated, it's all about the depth chart. That

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Speaker 1: was such a big storyline for this Eagles team last year, Paul,

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Speaker 1: one guy going down after another and one guy after

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Speaker 1: another stepping up. I mean, that's a big reason why

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Speaker 1: they made the run they did. Usually it's the healthier

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Speaker 1: team that is able to make the run amongst the

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Speaker 1: rest of the contenders, because it is a war of

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Speaker 1: attrition in this league. Last year, the Eagles had some

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Speaker 1: very significant injuries that they were able to overcome. That's

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Speaker 1: not a commonplace for a champion usually the champions had

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Speaker 1: a lot of lucky rabbits feed in their back pockets,

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Speaker 1: and they were able to to weather, you know, some

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Speaker 1: minor things here and there. I mean, I remember, and

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Speaker 1: I tell people this all the time, when the Giants

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Speaker 1: went to um Indianapolis for the Super Bowl in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eleven, at the end of that season. I

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Speaker 1: remember game day morning, I was doing the television pregame

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Speaker 1: and I remember telling Bob Pop I was outside the stadium,

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Speaker 1: Lucas Oil Stadium, and it was time for me to

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Speaker 1: give the injury updates and last minute you know reports

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Speaker 1: as to what was going to go on that day.

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Speaker 1: And for the first time the entire season, Tom Coughlin

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Speaker 1: had his entire fifty three man roster to choose from.

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Speaker 1: He didn't have a single solitary guy who was going

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Speaker 1: to be inactive because of injury. He had all fifty

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Speaker 1: three healthy and he was gonna have to scratch guys

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Speaker 1: healthy for the first time all season, which is a

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Speaker 1: good problem to have. It's a great problem to have,

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Speaker 1: but that that's such a blessing in this league nowadays.

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Speaker 1: And and the Eagles faced other problems because they had

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Speaker 1: injuries and they were able to do it, which is

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Speaker 1: why it's so rare what the Eagles were able to accomplish, Paul.

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Speaker 1: That's why I keep bringing it up because I think

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Speaker 1: what a lot of people tend to forget is it

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Speaker 1: wasn't just Carson Wentz that went down. It was Jason Peters,

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Speaker 1: their left tackle. It was Darren Sprawls, a key third

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Speaker 1: down running back was the Giants. Correct, it was two

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Speaker 1: middle linebackers. As I just mentioned the Dave, they didn't

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Speaker 1: just lose their starter, they lost this backup. So they

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Speaker 1: lost their starting kicker because Jim Elliott got the gameway

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Speaker 1: kick against the Giants, because Sturgis was thanks for well,

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Speaker 1: just going to my apology. Okay, it's relevant to today's conversation.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely true, and and so I I give the

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Speaker 1: Eagles a tremendous amount of credit, folks. I know there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of Giants fans who are gonna wins

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Speaker 1: at that, but listen, we're just talking about the facts here.

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Speaker 1: Got to give them a tremendous amount of credit for

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Speaker 1: being able to pull off last year's championship. But it's

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Speaker 1: last year and now it's a clean slate. And as

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Speaker 1: Dave me correct, and as Dave mentioned, the biggest challenge

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Speaker 1: is now coming back and duplicating that success, which is

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Speaker 1: extremely hard. I mean, that's why let's let's put it

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Speaker 1: in perspective here, Paul. What the Seahawks accomplished. Now, they

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Speaker 1: didn't win back to back Super Bowls, but at least

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Speaker 1: they made it to back to back Super Bowls is

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Speaker 1: an accomplishment in itself because of the parity in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. Alright, let's open up the phone lines.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on anything Giants related. You want to talk

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Speaker 1: about the Eagles. Everything is up for debate and up

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Speaker 1: for the dialogue. Two zero one five one three hashtag

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Speaker 1: Giants Chat. Julie, it is on the line, Julian, what's happening?

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, how are you hi? Julian? What do you

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Speaker 1: got for us? How much? Um? Well, first off, just

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Speaker 1: going off, what's the last thing you said? The hardest

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Speaker 1: thing to do in the NFL ever to repeat? Um,

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Speaker 1: just to come back into the season being the same

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Speaker 1: players you were, the same team you were. I think

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Speaker 1: the last time we saw something like that was the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: I think you hit it the nail on the head,

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Speaker 1: and even then they couldn't get past Tom Brady in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. They were close. Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: think there was one play that they messed up. I believe,

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Speaker 1: So I think you're correctly. I think you hit the

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Speaker 1: nail in the coffin in terms of that. But UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, I actually was calling to ask um, I

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Speaker 1: believe I had asked John Schmelk and um, gosh, I

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Speaker 1: forget his name, get there you go. I had asked him,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to ask you in Paul, your opinions

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Speaker 1: as well. UM, this is gonna be we're talking about

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Speaker 1: death here right, so our cornerbacks. Um, when you this

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Speaker 1: is your third your third year going out there looking

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Speaker 1: at the field, you guys see what a lot of

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Speaker 1: us and don't we gotta wait till Sunday for us

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Speaker 1: to see what these guys come out and do. So

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you guys your opinion on on

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Speaker 1: Eli Apples. This is your third season watching him in practice.

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Speaker 1: When you guys go out there and watch him, do

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Speaker 1: you guys see something in him that you go wow, Like,

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Speaker 1: this kid is super talented. I know why he's on

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Speaker 1: our team, absolutely, no question. You don't even have to

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Speaker 1: go any further. Look, I scouted him out of Ohio

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Speaker 1: State and I had him as a potential radar pick

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Speaker 1: for the Giants in the first round. Um I was

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Speaker 1: one of the few not at all surprised at his

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Speaker 1: skill set. He's got size, he's got length, he's got speed,

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Speaker 1: he's got stickiness, he's willing to hit. There's there. He

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Speaker 1: checks every box okay, And as a rookie, I thought

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Speaker 1: he should have been on the All NFL Rookie Team.

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Speaker 1: I thought he had a better you than Hargraves did

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Speaker 1: down to Tampa Bay. I really did, and I thought

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Speaker 1: he got jobbed off of that squad. But then last

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Speaker 1: year a variety of things sidetracked him mentally and emotionally,

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Speaker 1: and things fell apart. Well. As Jolkie Barrot used to say,

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Speaker 1: what the game is half mental or whatever it was

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Speaker 1: that he used to say, Well, I know that was baseball,

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Speaker 1: but it applies to football because with all the bumps

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Speaker 1: and bruises these guys go through, if they're not mentally

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Speaker 1: an emotionally right, it's going to dramatically impact their performance

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Speaker 1: on the field. And Elie Apple had a very down

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Speaker 1: season for a number of reasons, but skill wise, there's

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Speaker 1: no question he's a top flight corner well. And on

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Speaker 1: top of that, Julian, Eli Apple also has the measurements

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Speaker 1: that ideally you want out of a corner. So I

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Speaker 1: think when you look at him from a physical standpoint,

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Speaker 1: and then you take into consideration as Paul mentioned, his

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Speaker 1: skill set, you know there's a reason why he's on

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Speaker 1: the roster. There's a reason why Dave Gettleman says, you

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Speaker 1: don't quit on talent because they believe there's upside here.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's a very small sample size that

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Speaker 1: we have to go by with Eli Apple. It's just

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Speaker 1: that rookie year, Paul that you mentioned. I mean to

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Speaker 1: me last season, I said this multiple times on this program.

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Speaker 1: What is there to evaluate from Eli Apple in two

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Speaker 1: thousand second there were so many extenuating circumstances that year

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Speaker 1: almost doesn't even count. So the big question now entering

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Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen is was two thousand sixteen a flash

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Speaker 1: or was two thousand sixteen the first building block of

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Speaker 1: what's yet to come? And that remains to be seen.

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Speaker 1: But from what I've seen in practice, Julian, to answer

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Speaker 1: your question throughout the spring and what he said to

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Speaker 1: the media, Eli Apple appears to be a different player,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's a positive. I think he's embracing

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Speaker 1: the clean slate. I think he's motivated both physically and mentally.

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Speaker 1: Now he's just got to show it in training camp

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Speaker 1: in the regular season. And I think we're waiting, just

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Speaker 1: like you to see that. I mean, even though we're

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Speaker 1: at practice seeing it doesn't really mean much of anything

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Speaker 1: until we get to the regular season, right, Yeah, nothing really.

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Speaker 1: I mean practice is practice at all counts when it's

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Speaker 1: on the field and when it's on Sunday night or

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Speaker 1: during Sunday's got you. Yeah, But that was just really

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Speaker 1: my main question was you know what you guys see

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Speaker 1: from practice and if you guys see the talent there

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Speaker 1: that Dave gettlan season everything. Um you know. So that

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Speaker 1: was really my main last question for you guys, is

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Speaker 1: um uh I asked. I also asked John Schmilkin Fiagels

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Speaker 1: this question too. I was curious in your opinion. Um,

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Speaker 1: not not that I want to have a bashing session

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Speaker 1: here or anything like that. I know that's not certainly

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Speaker 1: what you guys don't do. But as far as Ben

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Speaker 1: mcadee did, you guys, I feel like he was a

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Speaker 1: good football coach, and at any point in the season

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Speaker 1: or when he was around, did you guys say to

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Speaker 1: yourselves personally as as Giants. You know, you guys have

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Speaker 1: been around in this in this franchise forever. Did you

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Speaker 1: guys ever say to yourself before the end, like this

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Speaker 1: guy needs to go or this is certainly not the

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Speaker 1: coach that we need for this team. I'm just very

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Speaker 1: curious on what you guys thought during the whole thing

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Speaker 1: a few thousand seventeen and as as coach McAdoo as

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Speaker 1: a football coach, and you know, I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: let the air, let you guys off the air with that,

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Speaker 1: and uh actually appreciate the focal Thank you. You know,

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Speaker 1: I told people this many times, whether it was on

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Speaker 1: this show or on w f A. N Ben McAdoo

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Speaker 1: had never been a head coach at any level before

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Speaker 1: he took the reins of the Giants, and then as

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Speaker 1: a rookie, had eleven wins and went to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: That is a tremendous amount of success right out of

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Speaker 1: the get go, out of the box. He never experienced

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Speaker 1: the growing pains that a usual rookie head coach will

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Speaker 1: experience with a team that maybe will struggle or maybe

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Speaker 1: he had to turn around a team that was just

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Speaker 1: reaching for mediocrity. Things fell so much into place for

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Speaker 1: him as a rookie head coach that in a way,

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Speaker 1: it was almost too easy to win eleven games and

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Speaker 1: be a playoff team. So that's when you go into

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Speaker 1: year two and now you're gonna start to experience some

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Speaker 1: of the pitfalls and the detours and the mind fields

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Speaker 1: a rookie head coach, and he ran into problems and

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Speaker 1: and to me, it does isn't doesn't indicate like the

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Speaker 1: quality of the football man he is. It just indicated

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Speaker 1: that he did not have enough of head coaching experience

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Speaker 1: and enough of of time earlier in his career to

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Speaker 1: deal with those types of pitfalls. And they always tell

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Speaker 1: you experience is the best educator. He'll be a better

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Speaker 1: or we'll have a better record as a head football

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Speaker 1: coach if he gets another chance down the line, just

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Speaker 1: like Pat Schermer, he's getting a second chance after Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: And he has said that on multiple occasions because he

643
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: said if he knew the things that he knows now

644
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: back when he was in Cleveland, the first time around,

645
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: he thinks he would have been a better first time

646
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: head coach because it comes with experience, and you know,

647
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: to piggyback off of what you said, I think when

648
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: you look at Ben McAdoo, he was with the Giants

649
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: organization through some of their struggles because he was an

650
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in fourteen fifteen. But it's a little bit

651
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: different when you're sort of watching another man as opposed

652
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: to you, and the difference and that and that's what

653
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: I think he learned in seventeen where it was he

654
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: was thrown in. It was baptism by fire, the team

655
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: was winning, everything was great. Then all of a sudden

656
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: you start to deal with the challenges and to use

657
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: a parallel, you know, Sean McVeigh is now going to

658
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: enter a very critical season who did a stunning job

659
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: as a first year ram said Paul. Now can he

660
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: duplicate that? Can he get the team back to the playoffs.

661
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: That's gonna be something that he's gonna have to go

662
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: through now. I think what helps McVeigh is that he

663
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: has a guy like Wade Phillips around him who has

664
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: head coaching experience. But you know, then again, Ben McDow

665
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: had Spags, who also was a head coach too, So

666
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't know necessarily if that's gonna be a U

667
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: Jax facts who simplify it, And maybe this will make

668
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 1: more sense because we talk about players so much having

669
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: sophomore jinxes. Rookie stars who come into the league and

670
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 1: kick butt during their first season will often have what's

671
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: called the sophomore jinx or the sophomore slumpy because guess what,

672
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: people catch up to them, People start making things difficult

673
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: for them. And because they did not have those rookie

674
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: growing pains, all of a sudden, they have them in

675
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: you two. So if you will, I would submit to

676
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: you that and McAdoo had a lot of sophomore jinxes

677
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: and sophomore slumps, kind of I don't know, avalanche on

678
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: him in your number two. And who knows how much

679
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: you'll learn from it. I suspect that he will, but

680
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: that will be down the road for another time. And

681
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: the other challenge when you become a first time head coach, Paul,

682
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: just real quickly before we head to the phone lines again,

683
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 1: is you know Benn mcado has been on the offensive

684
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: side of the football his entire career, even going back

685
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: to green Bay, Paul tight ends coach. He was a

686
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach. He comes to the Giants and he elevates

687
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. And one of the things that I

688
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: think is maybe a challenge for most people when you

689
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: become a head coach, now you have to sort of

690
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: peel yourself away from just the offense, Paul, and you

691
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: have to say to yourself, I am now in charge

692
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: of the entire team. I've got to now give just

693
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: as much attention to the defense. That doesn't mean that

694
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: I have to babysit them, but I've got to make

695
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: sure that I'm zoned in on them just as much

696
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: as i am on offense. Because you've got to be

697
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,479
Speaker 1: aware of all of the things related to the team,

698
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: all of the things related to your players as just

699
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: opposed to one facet of a team. And when you're

700
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: a positional coach, I think it's easy to fall into

701
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: the pitfall of I'm just gonna worry about my sort

702
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: of corner, right, and not necessarily worry about the ins

703
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: and outs of every other corner. And you know that

704
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: comes with experience in time when you're in the head

705
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: coaching chair. All right, let's head back to the phone lines.

706
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: We got Doug on the line. Doug, what's happening? He Doug,

707
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: what do you got for us? Oh? Um, I gotta

708
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: I want to know him talk. Um. I want to

709
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: read a couple of names. See you guys right quick,

710
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: um Julo Jones, DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Kevins, that Sean Jefferys.

711
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: Those are just through um. MI concern is a free safety.

712
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: The free safety has to be versatile. He has to

713
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: be a good observer. He has to basically be the

714
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: smartest guy on the field. Um, you don't happen or

715
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: zeke is Um. I don't care if they have Pro

716
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: Bowl seaters with our pretty do. But those receivers are

717
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: this name will get a step on them, and it

718
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: will be for shots down the field because these are

719
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: no ordinary receivers. These are Pro Bowl receivers and they're

720
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: gonna get a step on either. Eli Apple, you know,

721
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: thinking sometimes during the game. This is where the free

722
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,479
Speaker 1: safety is vital. This free safety has to be there

723
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: and when that happens or we're gonna have some six

724
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: yard bombs going on. And this is what I'm talking about,

725
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: the free safety position. It's very violative. James Betcher's defense

726
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: because he basically has to be the smartest guy on

727
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: the field and he has to make that judgment when

728
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: that happening. He has to be there. So my question

729
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: needs you, is there anybody on that Giants team you

730
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: can fit that that position, because if not the most

731
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: certainly gonna have to find somebody. Well, there's a two

732
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: pronged answer to this. One is that darry and Thompson

733
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: shows the ball hawking skills that he had at Boise

734
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: State and appear to show when he was a rookie

735
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: with the Giants and training camp before he got banged up.

736
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: Because last year another one of those guys who took

737
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: a major step back. It just did not happen for

738
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: him production wise, But I know they think that he

739
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: certainly is going to be in this competition come August.

740
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Speaker 1: But the second part, which may be more relevant to

741
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: your question, James Betcher, is all about creating mismatches and

742
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: confusion so that the offenses cannot pick up who the

743
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: hot guy is coming on the pass rush. And when

744
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,479
Speaker 1: you get those mismatches and you are able to get

745
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: offenses guessing and they guess wrong, well, guess what you're

746
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: on top of that quarterback in a millisecond, and that

747
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: kind of throws off all the timing and all the

748
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: deep routes that you're great. Wide receivers that you're talking

749
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: about are going to try to run. And so I

750
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: would maintain to you it's not so much about the

751
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: coverage skills or the smarts of the deep safety and

752
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: the Giants scheme. It's gonna be more about what does

753
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: bet you do to create the mismatches that calls the

754
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: offense to short circuit and one of the one of

755
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: the players, And some of these quarterbacks can step to

756
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: step away from the rush and can throw matt Rice

757
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: and the Drew Breezes and the Conston Winses can step

758
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: after rush. They're still launton domicile, so the rust could

759
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: become it and they can step away and they're good

760
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: at it. That's what I'm saying. But that regardless, that's

761
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: three safety well, and Doug, I agree with you, and

762
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: I get your point. There are a lot of versatil

763
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this league that even if they have defenders

764
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: in their face, they can sort of run to the

765
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: sideline and will make a play. And about their backs

766
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: are gonna make those plays. But to get back to

767
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: the main question about is there somebody that can step

768
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: up in that free safety position regardless of the scheme.

769
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: I think that's the major topic here we're talking about.

770
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: Darry Thompson showed in colleges. Paul mentioned that he play

771
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: that center field position and he could be opportunistic and

772
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: he could also come down to the line of scrimmage. Unfortunately,

773
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: injuries have interrupted his production and his durability. One guy

774
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: that I don't think is getting a lot of attention

775
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: who I truly believe. I'm very high on him and

776
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes an integral part

777
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: of the safety rotation and maybe even locks down the

778
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: starting job. I could see Michael Thomas being the free

779
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: safety this season next to Landon Collins. I think that

780
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: people view him specifically as a special teams player, and

781
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: he has been a great special teams player, but he

782
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: also has plenty of experience playing the safety role with

783
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: his time with Miami and the new Giants secondary coach

784
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: came from Miami. I think Michael Thomas, when it's all

785
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: said and done, could very well be the starting free

786
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: safety on this team next to Landon Collins. I think

787
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: he has the experience, and I think he has the versatility.

788
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: I would not dismiss him, and I hope Darian Thompson

789
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: bounces back because his skill set is attractive. But I

790
00:40:55,080 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: would not dismiss Michael Thomas. Um he's two on two

791
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: into some pounds. He's got built for it and for

792
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: the free safety, and he's got some speed for it too,

793
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: So I'm just hoping he shows up. That's one guy

794
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: who got the guy has one of them blacks out seasons.

795
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: Because he's gotta be smart too. If you're smart enough

796
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: to play that position, that's says got to be just about.

797
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: Like I said, well, you also have Andrew Adams in

798
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: the mix too. I mean that's another player who has

799
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: been on the Giants the last few seasons, has also

800
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: been a special teams guy. So you know they have

801
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: a few players in the mix. I think they're looking

802
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: for that consistency keeping there searching for kep. Keep in

803
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: mind though, that if you're looking at Michael Thomas, she's

804
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: got one career interception in five NFL seasons, of which

805
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: he only started for a season and a half. But

806
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: if you're gonna play, if you're gonna play set a fielder,

807
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: you better get some picks. You better get some picks.

808
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: But but I think to Doug's question, I think, also

809
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: you want a guy that's gonna be in the right

810
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: spot and he's smart. To me, I'm not because in fairness,

811
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: Paul Dary and Thompson, how many interceptions does he have? Well?

812
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: He did not. Well, so the point is him and

813
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: I know he did. But the point is if you

814
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: look at Michael Thomas and Darren Thompson, they're on an

815
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: even playing field in terms of the opportunistic plays. Neither

816
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: has anything to write there you go. So what I'm

817
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: saying is you, I understand you want that center fielder

818
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: to be that guy that could pile up the interceptions.

819
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: But if you look at Andrew Adams, of course, well

820
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: he's got to be That's what I said. It's where

821
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: he plays. The position that he's in on the field

822
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: is just as important as his ability to get the interceptions.

823
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it, Dug and appreciate the phone call.

824
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: Thank you way in So that's why it's gonna be

825
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: interesting to see how those three battle out. And one

826
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: of the things that you and I also talked about Paul,

827
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: Andrew Adams, but also maybe James Betcher puts three safeties

828
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: on the field more often than not. I mean that

829
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: still is an option to could given the questions at

830
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: the slot position for the cornerback spot. What happened and

831
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: they'll be times. Trust me, when Landon Collins is going

832
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: to be playing deep safety, it will happen. Yeah, because

833
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: you figure he's gonna be that hybrid player that they'll

834
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,959
Speaker 1: move around. All right, let's head back to the phone lines.

835
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: Dave isn't Cranford, Dave, what's happening? How are the how

836
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: are you? Paul always appreciate it. Um love love the

837
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: interview with the Eagle guy. I give him a lot

838
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: of credit. It's it's painful for me to kind of

839
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: give him credit, but but give a lot of credit.

840
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: I thought it was actually a very balanced look at

841
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: that team. I would say one name he didn't mention

842
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: that I think flew under the radar. Who's coming off

843
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: of a pretty bad injury. Was a de tackle. There's

844
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: a journey again. He did mention, yeah, and uh oh

845
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: you did mention he did yeah. He brought up Dave,

846
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: the fact that he's dealing with an injury and that's

847
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: one of the guys that was a critical player in

848
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: the rotation last season. Yeah, okay, okay, sorry I miss that.

849
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: I just thought, um that, you know, they've they've got

850
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: they've got some injury stuff. It really is fascinating. It

851
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: was such a crazy year last year, as we know,

852
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: but we really, um, you know, we we played both

853
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: those games. I mean, both those games could have went

854
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: in either direction. Um as as we remember. You know,

855
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: in the in this sport, you know, you win, you lose.

856
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: That's it, that's the beauty of it. But but it's

857
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: really it's fascinating looking back on last year was such

858
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: a bad year for us and a historic year for them,

859
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: you would have thought the opposite in terms of how

860
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: we played them. But you know, just just an interesting

861
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: Dave made a great point, and I don't mean to interrupt,

862
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: but I think it's relevant here when he said that

863
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: teams that get the ball out quickly give the Eagles

864
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: problems because quite frankly, their secondary has been weak for

865
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: years and their linebackers have not been great coverage linebackers

866
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: for years. And so when you look at last year's

867
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: two games and you see Eli Manning had his two

868
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: best games of the season against Philadelphia, and the Giants

869
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: gave them everything more than they could handle, or should

870
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: I say everything and more? Um, you know, maybe that

871
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: should not be a surprise because matchup wise, the Giants

872
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: are going to give them trouble. Yeah. No, I think

873
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: you're right, Paul. This is really up your alley. And

874
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: I think that is just a comment that I'd like

875
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: to have you guys talk about. And and that is

876
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: just the impact of coaching overall. And and and I

877
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 1: think as you look at the quotes coming out of

878
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: the preseason and many camps for us UM and listening

879
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: to you know, obviously Pat Sherman, and then I think

880
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: also better but yet you hear it's sprinkled throughout. And

881
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: I think for these these coaches one of the challenges

882
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: that they have is that they've got to be very smart,

883
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: very capable, and they all can very quickly fall in

884
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: love with their scheme and and and I think that's

885
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: what I would say about McAdoo was that, you know,

886
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 1: very smart guy, but I think he was very very

887
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: very much in love with his scheme overall. And I

888
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: think what you hear that's very mature from both the

889
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: new coaching staff now for the Giants is the importance

890
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: of the players within the scheme and that it's not

891
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: and again it's not black or white. There's a balance

892
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: to it that schemes super important, but you have to

893
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: put your players into a position to succeed. And you

894
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: hear that over and over again. And if you look

895
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: back at last year, injuries, everything else that you want

896
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: to talk about, it was just that there were certain

897
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: times that are coaches just just put their head in

898
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: the sand and we're gonna run that scheme or we're

899
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: gonna run that play, and there there's really no chance

900
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: of it having success. And I think going into this year,

901
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: and I'll stop on this, I just think that there

902
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: are holes on this team. This is my point. There

903
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: are places of weakness. Obviously every team has them. We

904
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: definitely have them. The issue for me and the reason

905
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: for some confidences that I think the philosophy of these

906
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: coaching staff will be to be able to put um

907
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: and to be able to do their best to image

908
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: around those issues. And I think you can see a

909
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: dramatic impact because of that. Well, I think that's a

910
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: fair statement and I think we're getting that same vibe

911
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: from this coaching staff. But to be fair, human nature says,

912
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: when things aren't going well, you go back to what

913
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: you know and go back to what worked for you

914
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: in the past. And this is part of what I

915
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 1: said before about last year when coach McAdoo coming off

916
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: in eleven win season, now things are going rough, well,

917
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: his first instinct, like anybody in any job, is gonna say, well,

918
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: let me just stick to my guns, to what I

919
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: believe in and what worked last year, because we want

920
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: eleven games last year. You know, that type of scenario

921
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: does not lead itself to a person who's going to

922
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: be mega flexible. First instinct is always going to be

923
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: let me go back to what I know best and

924
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: let me just tighten down on that before I try

925
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: something and go snack your comfort zone exactly. Comfort zone,

926
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: great phrase, Lance, and and I just think we need

927
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: to be fair about that when we think in terms

928
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: of flexibility of coaches and try to fit players into

929
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: schemes and vice versa. And perhaps again second time around

930
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: for Pat Shermer, maybe that's one of the things he

931
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: learned in Cleveland is that you know what comfort zone

932
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: may not be the best way to go. Maybe it

933
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: truly is better to see what you have and try

934
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: to work around what it is that you have instead

935
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: of putting that circle into the square box. Well, and

936
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: did to your point, and we'll let you continue. I

937
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 1: think what's encouraging about just making adjustments. You have Pat

938
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: Shermer who comes over from a Vikings team last year.

939
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean, just look at it. What they had to

940
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: deal with, Sam Bradford was his starting quarterback. Case Keenum

941
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: now has to take over. Notice how production didn't fall

942
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: lawfmmensally running game, running game in terms of losing their

943
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: starting running back and then all of a sudden, now

944
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: utilizing La Tapia's Murray who's with the Raiders, and bringing

945
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 1: in Jerick McKinnon who was a third down back, running

946
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: games stayed relatively even. So now I'm only looking at

947
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: the offense because Pat Tremer had nothing to do with

948
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: the defense. But that's encouraging to me that, Okay, he

949
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: lost key playmakers, but they made the tweaks that were

950
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: necessary and they still were able to go out and

951
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: win games and be productive. So that I think is

952
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: something positive that happened. I'm not talking about something that

953
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: happened ten years ago. I'm talking about something that happened

954
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: a year ago to show you that, all right, well,

955
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 1: if the Giants lose some personnel or things are maybe

956
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: not going right, that he has some near or short

957
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: term experience here in which he's been able to make

958
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 1: adjustments and keep everything status quo. Yeah. I just think

959
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: it's a big I don't think that every coach in

960
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: the league would answer the question the same way that

961
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: that our coaches have, which is the importance of putting

962
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: the players in the physician to succeed. I actually believe

963
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: that some of them. I think that their scheme is

964
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, more important and and as long as the

965
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: players can execute their scheme, they're married to that. And

966
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna and I think we're going

967
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: to see the beasts ot of that. I'm looking forward

968
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: to this, So I appreciate your thank you for weighing in.

969
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the old debate about whether or not

970
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: as a coach, you know, you should stick to your

971
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: scheme and expect the players to just adjust to it,

972
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: or do you then adjust to the personnel. I mean

973
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: that that's a constant debate that I think track record

974
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: will always show you the light. Yeah. Well, and also

975
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: will give you the leverage to stick with one of

976
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: those sides, right, Because Paul, if you're a coach and

977
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: you've gone to numerous teams you've used the same scheme

978
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 1: but the personnel's changed that it's worked, then no matter

979
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: where you go, you're gonna say, listen, it's my scheme,

980
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: my scheme. You're fitting into my scheme. Right. So that's

981
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: what really plays a big role in a big factory.

982
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: All right, let's head back to the line. Scott's in

983
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: New Mexico. Scott, Welcome to the program. What do you

984
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: have Hi? Guys? Hi? First, I wanted to thank you both.

985
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: I was on last week and I may be the

986
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: only Giant fan or spouse of you that the Giants

987
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: will be a Super Bowl contender. And you at least

988
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 1: allowed me to state my views, even though I kind

989
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: of suspect you may not agree. But not a problem.

990
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: I looked at the teams. I was interested in the

991
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: conversation with the gentleman from Philadelphia, and there have been

992
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: six teams that repeated, and all of them were sort

993
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: of dynasty type teams. Uh So I'm not quite sure

994
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: Philadelphia fits the mode of that based on what I'm

995
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: looking at presently, so I don't see them repeating. But

996
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: I know they have talent on the ball club. But

997
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: the teams that did repeat, I know Pittsburgh did it twice,

998
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: I think in seventy and seventy five and then again

999
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: in seventy eight and seventy nine. And the other teams

1000
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: were also dynasty teams, Dallas, Green, Bay, et cetera. I

1001
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: happen to agree with you Lance that I think Michael

1002
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: Thomas could be the player that might replaced Darry and Thompson.

1003
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: I think he has that kind of talent. But the

1004
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 1: one thing, if there is one thing missing, I think

1005
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: it's a cover linebacker, sort of like a Calvin Smith

1006
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: or Dion Jones or Kendricks in Minnesota. I was wondering

1007
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: what the cap space the Giants have. I think it's

1008
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: about eight million. Do they have the opportunity do you

1009
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 1: think to be able to pick up somebody that might

1010
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: fit more into the sort of a cover linebacker. I

1011
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: do you know what the Betcher defense. They're going to

1012
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: do the blitzing, but I still think they need that.

1013
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if B. J. Goodson can do it,

1014
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: And I'm not quite true Od the Verdon can really

1015
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: cover outside. So I was wanting to get you and

1016
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: Paul's view on whether they can actually get someone before

1017
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: the season starts. Yeah, I don't think the need is

1018
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: as great as you do. Ogle Trees a three down

1019
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: linebacker who can cover anywhere on the field. They really

1020
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: believe that Lorenzo Carter has covered skills. In fact, I

1021
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: just saw a stat the other day. He played what

1022
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: was the twentysomething twenty five of the time last year

1023
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: at Georgia in the slot, which is pretty incredible when

1024
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: you think about it. With the kind of frame that

1025
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: this guy can put out there on the field. We've

1026
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: seen him cover a ton of ground out here during

1027
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: the course of the spring workouts. So I think Carter's

1028
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: got covered skills. Ogil Trees got coverage skills. Goodson showed

1029
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 1: someone he could stay on the field that he's got

1030
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: some coverage skills. And then you also run into if

1031
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: it's not working well, you throw out the three safety

1032
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: package and you throw one of those extra safeties in there.

1033
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: I don't know that they need to buy anybody else well,

1034
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: And and the other part of that question that I

1035
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: think you got to take into consideration Scott is even

1036
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: if they have the cap space. To your point, if

1037
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: there is somebody out there, then why hasn't that player

1038
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: been signed already? Who has those great coverage skills that

1039
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: you're saying the team needs. Well, could be a veteran

1040
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: who's one like Brian has skill set and he's still

1041
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: out there. I get that, But but my point is

1042
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna truly be a difference maker, in

1043
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: my opinion, would have been well off the market by now.

1044
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I think DRC is gonna be a difference

1045
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: maker for somebody's secondary and he has decided he's not

1046
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: signing right now. That's fair. That's fair. So you can't

1047
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: blanket statement that well, I'm not gonna but I think

1048
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: the true playmakers, the guys that are gonna make the

1049
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 1: true differences, I think are on rosters already in my opinion.

1050
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's certainly gonna be a guy that you're

1051
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: gonna help with depth in here and there. But you know,

1052
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: just a piggyback of off of what Paul said, I

1053
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: I agree that there are guys that have shown the

1054
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: ability to cover, but I also think that it's a

1055
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: limited sample size. Scott and I think your point is

1056
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: fair because b J Goodson. I remember watching b J

1057
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: Goodson a training camp last year and they had been

1058
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: running him down the field in coverage and I thought

1059
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: he did a good job, but then unfortunately got hurt.

1060
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: So we haven't really seen a transfer to the regular season.

1061
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Carter is simply a rookie. He has yet to

1062
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: play one NFL down. Ogle Tree, I believe is a

1063
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: three down linebacker, and Vernon. Vernon can play in coverage,

1064
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: but I don't think that's necessarily the strength that you

1065
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: soa when you further evaluate the linebacking chorus Scott, I

1066
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Speaker 1: think you got some pieces, but I could see your

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Speaker 1: point that maybe some other guys need to show that

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Speaker 1: ability moving forward. Yeah, one of the questions tomorrow of

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Speaker 1: a philosophical one listening to the other caller about coaching,

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Speaker 1: I kind of uh agree. If there was a signature

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Speaker 1: play that defined the Giants in it wasn't really the

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Speaker 1: two losses by field goals. I think it was that

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Speaker 1: third and thirty three, uh that allowed Robert what's the score?

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Speaker 1: And I think sort of the Giants fall apart at

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Speaker 1: that point. How do you establish And I'll take this

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Speaker 1: question off the How do you establish a winning attitude

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Speaker 1: on New England or one of the other teams that

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Speaker 1: are perennially there, like Pittsburgh, etcetera. Do the giant coaches

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Speaker 1: really can they integrate with the players and actually make

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Speaker 1: them believe that they are a winning unit and it's

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Speaker 1: got thanks for the phone call. A lot of that

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Speaker 1: has to come from within the locker room and the

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Speaker 1: new guys you brought in from other teams. That can

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Speaker 1: be one way to do it. And the other way

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Speaker 1: that Bill Parcels always believed in was that you want

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Speaker 1: to win those preseason games. Bill Bill had like winning

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Speaker 1: percentage in preseason games because he believed that you form

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Speaker 1: winning habits during the preseason and that once you learned

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Speaker 1: to start winning like that, it's a good feeling. It's

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Speaker 1: the kind of thing that that makes you want more. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I like to win. That feels good. I like it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's sweet. Let's let's let's keep doing those kinds

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Speaker 1: of things so that we can win regular season games too.

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Speaker 1: Bill was a very strong believer in that. Now a

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Speaker 1: lot of coaches don't. For instance, Ben McAdoo totally believed

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Speaker 1: in the preseason for was was for competition. He just

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Speaker 1: wanted to see which guys are gonna stay on the roster.

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Speaker 1: He didn't think that you experimented with plays necessarily or

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Speaker 1: that you try to win those games. His number one

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Speaker 1: reason during the preseason was I just want to see

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Speaker 1: if that second string linebacker is better than that third

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Speaker 1: string linebacker. And that was his primary take on the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Different coaches have different feelings about how you use the preseason,

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Speaker 1: but Bill wanted to win those games. He thought that

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Speaker 1: was a way you could develop those habits and the

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Speaker 1: mentality that it takes to win during the regular season. Well,

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Speaker 1: to add to that, I also think the habits are

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Speaker 1: built during the week at practice. I think if guys

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Speaker 1: look at practice and take on the philosophy that that's

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Speaker 1: just important as the games, Paul, then I think that's

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Speaker 1: addictive and I think that can be seen across the

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Speaker 1: board on the team. If guys just starts in training

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Speaker 1: camp in July, absolutely well, which the preseason, but then

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Speaker 1: also you need to keep that going after week five,

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Speaker 1: after week six, meaning you got a Monday night game,

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Speaker 1: you know you got a Sunday game the following week.

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Speaker 1: Is that attitude still pre evalent on the Thursday as

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Speaker 1: you get prepared for that Sunday game, even though you're

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Speaker 1: still exhausted and tired because it's a short week. Those

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Speaker 1: habits are just as important of what you said in August.

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Speaker 1: When all of a sudden, the durability starts to set

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Speaker 1: any questions. Bill used to feel that it was or

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Speaker 1: used to say it was easier for guys to follow

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Speaker 1: if they would win the preseason games, it would be

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Speaker 1: a lot easier for them to follow those things and

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Speaker 1: take them into the regular season because they believed understand.

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Speaker 1: Let's head back to the lines. You've got d kid

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Speaker 1: Queens Stuke, what's happening? Thank you, guys. I've got two questions.

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Speaker 1: My first question is if you could say something personally

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Speaker 1: to one guy on defense, one guy on offense. You know,

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Speaker 1: can I know you're reporters and I get to ask

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Speaker 1: some questions, but it's never like to sit down one

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Speaker 1: on the one, get one guy on each side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. One question. What would it be and why?

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Speaker 1: That's a good question. I'd like to know what it

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Speaker 1: is to be like Eli Manning? Oh my god, why

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Speaker 1: am I not surprised? What is it like to be

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Speaker 1: What is it like to be a two time Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl m v P. What was it like to really

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Speaker 1: be in in the helmet to throw that pass to

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Speaker 1: Manningham in Indianapolis or to throw that pass to David

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Speaker 1: Tyree and Arizona that No matter how many times he

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Speaker 1: talks about it, I still can't put myself in his

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Speaker 1: helmet and feel what that was like. I would think

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Speaker 1: that the question should be more relevant to the two

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Speaker 1: thousand eighteen season. That's just me personally speaking, at least

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Speaker 1: that's what I thought, Duke. You were asking as opposed

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Speaker 1: to reminiscing about what happened seven or eight years ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was. It was about to see, but that was

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Speaker 1: all you asked. I would I would probably want to

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Speaker 1: know right now. I would want to know uh from

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Speaker 1: Ali Gogultree. I would want to know his bag score

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Speaker 1: philosophies of how he is going to run Betcher's very

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Speaker 1: complicated and complex defensive scheme because it is a very

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Speaker 1: fluid scheme and he's gonna be in the heartbeat of

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Speaker 1: the beast. Let's face it, it all. It all starts

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Speaker 1: with the guy who's got the speakers inside his helmet

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Speaker 1: at that inside linebacker position, and so Ogiltree is going

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Speaker 1: to be a huge part of the mind games that

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Speaker 1: Betcher wants to play against opposing offenses. And I would

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Speaker 1: want to know how comfortable is Ogiltree going to be

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Speaker 1: and having to be the point man for this fluid scheme.

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Speaker 1: And my question would be more towards Olivier Vernon and

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Speaker 1: just the importance of his role this season, because he's

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Speaker 1: by far the one VET on this team that actually

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Speaker 1: has sack production that we've seen consistently, and you know

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Speaker 1: how truly he thinks he could get to the level

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Speaker 1: of Chandler Jones last year in Arizona. Now, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that we expected to get seventeen sacks, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm tu want to know now that he's moving back

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Speaker 1: away from the ball consistently at that outside linebacker position,

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Speaker 1: you know what he thinks he could do similar to

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Speaker 1: what Chandler Jones did in Arizona. And then from an

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Speaker 1: offensive standpoint, I mean Pat Shermer's offensive philosophy and who

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Speaker 1: ultimately could thrive the most within this system compared to

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Speaker 1: how Ben McAdoo used personnel. And I'd just be curious

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Speaker 1: to hear from everybody of what why they think this

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Speaker 1: Pat Shermer offense is so suitable to the movement of

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Speaker 1: everybody around. So you know that together, I think would

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Speaker 1: be two questions that I'd want to be able to

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Speaker 1: answer and her here from the players rather so appreciate

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Speaker 1: the phone called. Do hopefully that yeah, we got blocking

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Speaker 1: up against the clock, Duke, but give us a ring

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow. Will certainly feel free to answer all of

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Speaker 1: your other questions. Is that is going to wrap up

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