1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here thought I made myself perfectly clear. 2 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come 3 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: to me empty. And I said, no guests, your presences 4 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how 5 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: do you dare to surbey me? 6 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Winecker. Oh, 7 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: here we are. I hope you're doing okay. I hope 8 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: you're not stressed out. I mean, maybe you are. I 9 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: hope you're not disarming a bomb or doing anything like that, 10 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: although that could be an interesting If you are, and 11 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: you're listening to a podcast, interesting choices are being made, 12 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: and I appreciate that. I hope I'm not adding to 13 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: the stress. I don't have any advice for you. I 14 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: don't have any advice in general, let alone about the 15 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: bomb situation. So I'm just gonna try to keep the 16 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: tone soft for you, and we're going to have a 17 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: nice time regardless of what you're doing. Because our guest 18 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: today is extremely funny and also just a nice guy. 19 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: It's Josh Gondleman. Josh, welcome to. I said no gifts. 20 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me Ridger and a big shout 21 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: out to all the Bomb Squad listeners right now. 22 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, we appreciate what you're doing. We 23 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: love that you're fans of the pod and you're committed 24 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: enough to it that you're you're clipping the wires, you're 25 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: driving a little machine that heads towards the bomb, whatever 26 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: you do to disarm a bomb. 27 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: Whatever you're doing. Canonically, we hate bombs. 28 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: We are not Bob. This is not a fan This 29 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: podcast is not a bomb fan podcast. Although we do 30 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: love the bombs in Mario Brothers cute little bombs. 31 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: So there's some cute if I saw one of those, 32 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: even if I I imagine, even if I were a 33 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: professional Bomb Squad bomb disarmor, I would be tempted not do. 34 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 2: It's a very good bomb design because it really humanizes 35 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: and kind of you want to be friends with that bomb. 36 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: And yeah, so I guess my question is why are 37 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: more bombs not designed that way? 38 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: I know, right, I feel like it would be great 39 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: bomb pr if they were kind of toddling along and yeah, yeah, even. 40 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: A bomb, you know, like an old fashioned bomb where 41 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: it's like with the giant FEUs and it kind of 42 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: looks like a bowling mall. Even that's kind of cute 43 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 2: and fun. 44 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a little whimsy with that. 45 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: Right, it's not just like this terrifying mesh you know, 46 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: of wires and that kind of thing that bombs lost 47 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: their way. I feel like bombs have lost their way. 48 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 3: The design. I feel like it's like that Twitter meme 49 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: of like what happened? Bombs used to look like this, 50 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: and now they look like this, just clock with a 51 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: bunch of wires. Like it's a mess. From an stating 52 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: point of views. 53 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: It really shows how how far we've fallen as a society. 54 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: You know, whatever, josh how are you. 55 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: I'm feeling pretty good, thank you. I'm having a nice day. 56 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: Do you ever go by Joshua? Very seldom? Sometimes people 57 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 3: throw it in. I like can't figure it the rhyme 58 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: of reason, Like I'm even josh to my parents. 59 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: Right, I'm just it's like occurring to me. Now, I've 60 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: never met someone I know plenty of Joshua's, but I 61 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: have never heard someone called Joshua. No the tree, Yeah, truly, 62 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: it's only the tree. 63 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: It's like you wouldn't call it like, hey, We're going 64 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: to josh Tree for the weekend and be like you're 65 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: the worst person I've ever met. 66 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: Oh no, and you know that's been said before. 67 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 3: That's disheartening by like a New York finance or tech 68 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 3: person who flies out to the desert to do psychedelics 69 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: for the first time. We're going to josh tree man, 70 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: you do mushrooms. Just reconnect. This is your company retreat, 71 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: it's your whole all of your hedge fund managers are 72 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 3: going to do as together. You're doing it wrong. 73 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, Joshua, that's an interesting one. I think Joshua is 74 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: a hard It's maybe the most challenging or like requires 75 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: the most work to say out of all of full names. 76 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like the vowels kind of butting up 77 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: against each other. 78 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: It's very biblical. Oh yeah, it's very It's kind of 79 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: a roller coaster for your mouth. Then, so I guess 80 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: I can see why you name the baby Joshua and 81 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: then just get into josh josh Yeah. 82 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: My parents, Yeah, that's in My parents call me for sure. 83 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: I mean, like maybe I can't remember the last time 84 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 3: anyone called me Joshua, like maybe like a great aunt 85 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: or something says it as like a you know, to 86 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: be like a little sweet and formal, like, oh, Joshua, 87 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 3: it's so nice to see you. But like even that, 88 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 3: I feel like, who what, oh sorry, I should I 89 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: feel like when you call me, I should be wearing 90 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: a tie, and. 91 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, absolutely, it's a very serious name. 92 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 3: I realized, even my professional name, Like I go by 93 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: josh like with you know, like with friends and people 94 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: that I work with in comedy, but like it's on 95 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: all my like that's what shows up in the credits 96 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: of stuff I work on is just josh. 97 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: Right and formal. You've really abandoned the name josh worked 98 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: one that you know, well, maybe you know at some 99 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: point it might be worth considering. That's all I'm saying, 100 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: you know, just it'll be like a it'll be kind 101 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 2: of a Bowie or Madonna ask like shift in personal 102 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: just Joshua's. 103 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 3: I just go circling Joshua. 104 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 2: Trying to do a Madonna with Joshua is a very 105 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: interesting movie, so. 106 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 3: Funny because, like you said, there are more Joshuas running 107 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 3: around than Joshua's. But it's still not uncommon enough where 108 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: people like, wait a minute, which Joshua. 109 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: Have you heard the new Joshua single? Like no, and 110 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to. 111 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just him calculating a tip kind of like 112 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: agonizingly because he wants to be generous, but he's bad 113 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: at math. 114 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: Oh boy, what else is going on in life? I 115 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: guess today is Jeff Bezos. Is he in space? He's back, 116 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: He's back already, Yeah, it was. I think he was 117 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 2: up in the air for eleven minutes. Oh, you've got 118 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: to be kidding me. The point, what's the point? It's 119 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: no fun. 120 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: We didn't even get a good countdown. I don't I 121 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: don't think. 122 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: I completely missed it. 123 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it happened earlier than I thought. I 124 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: thought he would have tried to. 125 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: Do it during like prime time, right, I mean, who 126 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: cares at what time you're going to space. Pick a 127 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: time when everyone's awake, right, It's not like you're gonna 128 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: cross paths with someone else going to space. 129 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: No, nine pm, East Coast, like when the NBA Finals starts, 130 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: so you get the East Coast and the West Coast 131 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: able to watch people done with work for the day. Yeah, 132 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: I mean, like he wore a cowboy hat. I don't 133 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: think he saw the picture. No. 134 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: See, this is why I wasn't paying attention in the 135 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: first place. Why is it now that's worse than wearing 136 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: a cowboy hat to the airport. 137 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: Way worse than you had to the airport, because like, 138 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: there are cities in the United States or elsewhere that 139 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: you might go to where the attire his cowboy had friendly. 140 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: But in space that's never like you can't. It's not 141 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: like you put on top of the helmet like he 142 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: wore it to and from the space the rocket or whatever. 143 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: It's not like he was like, well, if I see 144 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: someone in space, I'll tip my cap to the extraterrestrials 145 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: say how do y'all and they'll understand what a loser, 146 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: real loser behavior. 147 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: And also just go to the moon. Why, like no 148 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: one else going to the moon. You've got all of 149 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: the money, We've done it before. I'm Jeff Bezos, and 150 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to go to space. I'm going to the moon. 151 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: I'm not just going to fly up to fly round. 152 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: Monkeys and dogs have already done what this thing? 153 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: You know? 154 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, a numerous species, so many people. There's people 155 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: probably in space right now. Right. Isn't the International Space 156 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: Station still rocking and rolling the last time we were on 157 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: the moon. It's been a long time. He could and 158 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: you could just go to the moon. There's nobody else there. 159 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: It's not crowded. You don't have to wait in line 160 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 3: for anything. 161 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder what stopped him from the moon. Maybe 162 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: that's the next step. The expense can't have been in, right, 163 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: I mean, certainly you can just pay a little bit 164 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: more money. He's got the cash that he's not spending 165 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: on things that what actually employees wages, health insurance, one 166 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: of the myriad problems we have here on Earth. If 167 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: you're going to spend the money, go all the way, 168 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: go to the moon. 169 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't. I don't know why I'm supposed 170 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: to be impressed by him going Like they said, like 171 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: it was like the edge of space. It feels like 172 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: someone being like, have you ever been to l Passo? 173 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: I mean being like, oh, yeah, I drove through it 174 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: on the way from Austin to Las Angels Once It's like, 175 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: well did you stop? I No, I didn't stop. I was. 176 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 3: I was kind of in a rush and I peed 177 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: a couple hours before, so it doesn't count. That's disrespectful 178 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: to the people of El Paso. 179 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: Yes, this was more just like in bungee jumping territory 180 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: or you know that kind of thing where it's like, oh, 181 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: so you just wanted a little bit of a thrill. Yeah, 182 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm not impressed. Not impressed to come back when you've 183 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: touched the mood even the moon, I guess wouldn't beat 184 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: that impressed. If we all know it's just kind of 185 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: a dusty circle. 186 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: It does seem fun. This is what I would do 187 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: if I had that money and was intent on not 188 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: doing anything for anyone else and just kind of spending 189 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: it on my own trible as pursuits. I would go 190 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: all the way to the moon. I would put up 191 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: a basketball hoop and I would dunk. That's like, yes, 192 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 3: that would be fun. Yes, this is how you waste money. Yeah. 193 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: And it's like, oh, Lebron, you think you did space jam. 194 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: I did space Jam. I jammed in space. 195 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: Thank you. See this is why you need to be 196 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 2: controlling the per strings of Jeff Bezos. 197 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: I would be such a good financial advisor, too. Is 198 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: super wealthy. First of all, I would embezzle just little bits, 199 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: like not enough that even that it's a crime. Like 200 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 3: if Jeff Bezos was like, hey, Josh, would you mind 201 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: picking up some coffees, I'd be like, sure, dude, And 202 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: then I would just keep the change just for the 203 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 3: point of like, you're not getting this one over on me, 204 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: and he would be like how much did it cost? 205 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 3: And I was like, weirdly twenty bucks even, and. 206 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: Being all right, he's one of those lucky orders where 207 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: it just was a nice, clean twenty Yeah. 208 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel like it was like pumping gas. I 209 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: just ordered coffee until it added up to twenty just 210 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: because that makes my brain feel at ease, and it'll 211 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: be like great, And meanwhile in my pocket, I'll have 212 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 3: like two dollars and forty six cents and I was 213 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: just like, oh, do you think you're so smart? Bezos? 214 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: And I also encourage anyone who is getting coffee for 215 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: a boss take the change, take a change, to be 216 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 2: a generous tipper, do something if. 217 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: You tip with the change, because that's I think you 218 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: can't be a dick. If they tip with the change. 219 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 3: You're like, oh, it was sixteen bucks. I left the 220 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: four as a tip. It was a big order. They 221 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: you know, I'm complicated machiados and such. I left the 222 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: tip and they're like, well, you can't tip twenty five 223 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 3: percent on coffee. It's like, man, you were just in space. 224 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 3: You can't tell you how much to take. How much 225 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: did you tip the guy that full Serve filled up 226 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 3: your spaceship with gasoline? 227 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: Yeah? 228 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: I think that that's completely fair. Uh. And we should 229 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: all be trying to take advantage of Jeff Bezos and 230 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: any of these people in any possible way. 231 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know. 232 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's a giant corporation and something, you know, 233 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 2: you get a little free something here or there, go 234 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: for it. 235 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah. 236 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: You know a few years ago there was some glitch 237 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: on Target dot com where I got seventy five percent 238 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: off of everything. I went for it. 239 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: Yeah right, Oh sorry, you think John and Beth Target 240 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: are hurting because of that. No, they're fine. 241 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: If a company is, you know, raking in billions of dollars, 242 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: go for it. You know they've done you know they've 243 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 2: taken advantage. You take advantage. 244 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: There's so few times where I will raise a fuss 245 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 3: about like an individual person too, like because everybody's just 246 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 3: trying their best, or if they're not, they're not paid 247 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: enough to. It's not it's not my problem. But like, 248 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: you know, if I go to a car rental place 249 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: and my rental is messed up, I'll like go out 250 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: of my way if I have to like write to 251 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: them to complain, which is occasional, that I'll be like 252 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: everyone there was so helpful and so nice. It's just 253 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: like there weren't cars. Hey, what's up with that? Like 254 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like I try not to 255 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: like get anyone in trouble because, like life is so hard. 256 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 3: I don't even if someone was like abruptly rude to me, 257 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, I mean I probably suck the. 258 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: Deal with Oh yeah, of course they're probably. I mean, 259 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: occasionally there's probably a horrible person you're working with, but 260 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: for the most part, most jobs are awful and they're hard, 261 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: and they put you in a bad mood. So someone's 262 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: in a bad mood and you catch a little bit 263 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 2: of that. Unless they're like aggressively coming after you, they're 264 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: just having a hard day on your job. 265 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I give if I do a ride share five stars. 266 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 3: Unless even I was going to say unless they actively 267 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: endanger my life, I'll go as far as to say, 268 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: unless they intentionally endanger my life, Like you know, if 269 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: they're like weaving through traffic, speeding, they're up on two wheels, 270 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 3: it's just like, hey, that's just because they care, they 271 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: want to do a good job. But you know if 272 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: the guy like turns to the back and like punches 273 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: me and is like, don't tell anyone about this, I'll 274 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: be like, well that is probably a four star ride. 275 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Even then it's like, well it was a new experience, 276 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: never done something like that before. Yeah, anytime somebody is 277 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: leaving a bad review when it was just like a 278 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: mediocre situation, I just don't like spend your energy on 279 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: something else. 280 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: Especially when it goes to their like boss, you know 281 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: what I mean. Of course, difference being like hey man, 282 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: would you mind slowing down a little bit this I'm 283 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 3: like a little carsick versus like three stars. Note this 284 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: man cares not for my safety. It's like who cares? 285 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: Shut up? Just like stop snitching. I mean, like I yeah, 286 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: that's it. Stop snitching. Like people they're just like having 287 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: a job is so much work, which is I know 288 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: what work is, It's work. But like, don't go snitching 289 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: to people just because they're doing like a low grade 290 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: bad job. Oh you've tried so hard. 291 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: Every day if your life. Yeah, unless you're like you know, 292 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: snitching on a mob boss, which I love, I love, 293 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: you know, I love a mob snitch, Love. 294 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: A mob snitch. There's so much drama, there's bad gentry. 295 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: There's also you kind of get relocated to Florida or what. 296 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: There's so much fun to live a whole new life. 297 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: Right, He's gonna put on a big, fancy suit and 298 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: talk to a judge just to excitement in everyone's life. 299 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: The thrill of getting to wear a wire, you know, 300 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: the pulse Trennis, who. 301 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 3: I miked up. I feel like, maybe this is this 302 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: is anti Italian prejudice, but I feel like, if you 303 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: wear a pinstripe suit to court, you definitely did it. 304 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Anyone that's currently wearing a pin stripe suit has 305 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: committed a crime in the last ten years, no question, 306 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: unless the one exception is Steve Harvey. God knowes what's 307 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: happening in the world of Steve Harvey. 308 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 3: Sure, sure, I just don't want to don't want to 309 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: paint him with the same brush, but I don't think. Man, 310 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: imagine if we found out he was in the mob. 311 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: Oh, that would be incredible. 312 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And we were just like the suits were trying 313 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: to tell us, this is our new thing. We're gonna 314 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: find some some Steve Harvey's do you remember a few 315 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 3: years ago that thing went viral that was like that 316 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: were like the new rules for working in Steve Harvey's office. No, 317 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: it was like all these guidelines for like being respectful 318 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: and deferential towards Steve Harvey. Like it was just like 319 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 3: they were all presented in a way that made them 320 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 3: feel very aggressive. But some of them were like fine, 321 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: it was like, please don't enter mister Harvey's office without 322 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 3: an appointment. He's a very busy man. And some of 323 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 3: them are like, do not look Steve Harvey in the eyes. 324 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: Of those are very different, right right, right, right, Like 325 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 3: some of them felt like, taken altogether in aggregate, it 326 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: was like, wow, this is like Steve Harvey has a 327 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: lot of specific preferences, but like some of them were 328 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 3: just like, yeah, this is how you interact with like 329 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: your busy boss, Like you're not just like hey, Stevie 330 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 3: h got some ideas for the feud. What about a 331 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 3: category that's like things you'd find in a belly button? 332 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: And Steve Harvey's like, I don't have time for this. 333 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: I have to get and ignore a suit fitting waiter. 334 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 2: Oh well, Josh, that actually it makes me think of 335 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: something having rules in this kind of thing, and uh, 336 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: you know, everybody has their little rules and their little 337 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: you know, guidelines this kind of thing, and this podcast 338 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,239 Speaker 2: is called I said no gifts, and you you know, 339 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: you agreed to be on it a few weeks ago, 340 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 2: and I thought, this is wonderful. I love josh He's 341 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: such a sweethearty, so funny. It's gonna be smooth sailing, 342 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 2: absolutely smooth sailing. And so I was. I will say 343 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: last night I was a little shaken up, a little 344 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: surprised when I get an email from none other than 345 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 2: Joshua Gondleman you are no full name, and this, Uh so, 346 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: I you know, I have a bag here. I don't know, 347 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: I thought I would bring a bag. The bag is 348 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: completely unnecessary in this particular situation because this is kind 349 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 2: of a new, a new thing that's happened on this 350 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 2: podcast up until now. Every every time someone's been on them, 351 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: they've brought me a gift, and there's it's led to 352 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: me freaking out, screaming matches, uh you know, me pounding 353 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: my desk, that kind of thing. And it was all 354 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 2: entirely because you know, the surprise, the anger for me. 355 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: This is the first time I've gotten a gift on 356 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: this podcast that was immediately not a surprise. I knew 357 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: immediately what it was, and but I thought I would 358 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: just bring up I have this bag here. I'm just 359 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: going to bring out the tissue. Should I open this 360 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: bag before we get into the gift. 361 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 4: Sure, it's like a Christmas looking bag. Yeah, it's a 362 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 4: little Christmas bag. Yeah, and some Christmas lights, some tissue. 363 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 4: I imagine this was a former gift on the podcast. 364 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 4: I found this in the closet. 365 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: You know, I'm a sucker for pageantry and tradition, and 366 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: so why break the cycle. Now, let's let's open this 367 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: despite the fact that there's nothing in here. We just 368 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 2: like the tissue. 369 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some nice fully work. 370 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm a fully master. This is I'm looking 371 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: for work in the fully industry. Okay, I want to 372 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 2: do that for like a solid ten minutes at some point, 373 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 2: just the most alienating thing I could possibly do. 374 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 3: Or there's some people that are listening that are like, finally, 375 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: Bridger makes the ASMR pivot that I've always been hoping for. 376 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: I have to imagine I think that that's got to 377 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: qualify as ASMR. I I'm not a big ASMR person. 378 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: But I have realized recently that for me, something that 379 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: qualifies as ASMR is when someone is telling me or 380 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: describing things in detail, or like giving me directions. Like 381 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: if you go to a museum and they show you 382 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: the map and have the highlighter and they do that, 383 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: they like highlight where you need to go to get somewhere. 384 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 2: My brain just turns to. 385 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: Mush and it's just like a pleasant white noise. Oh. 386 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: I love it. Anytime somebody has to kind of explain 387 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: something to me in a calm way, ASMR city for me. 388 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: Here's how you connect your wireless headphones to the computer, 389 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 3: and you're just like zoning out those a sleep of 390 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 3: my life. 391 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: All that aside, Josh, Okay, so this is what I 392 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: have not opened the email yet, but okay, I will 393 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: say it came from let's see here, wander Lust Creamery, 394 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 2: which I believe is only based in Los Angeles. 395 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 3: I think, so true. 396 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: Have you been to Wanderlust? 397 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 3: I have not. I did a lot of investigation into 398 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: the ice creameries of Los Angeles and we can get 399 00:21:59,040 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 3: into it later. 400 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: Well, we're going to get into it all over the 401 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: place now because I'm I was thrilled to see this email, 402 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: but I'm curious, like, let's just get to the very 403 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 2: beginning of the conversation. Why did you send me this 404 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 2: gift card to wander leus? 405 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 1: Oh? 406 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 2: And oh, we have a little message here. So there 407 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: is an apology, which I appreciate. It says, I know 408 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 2: you said no gifts, but I couldn't help. But thanks 409 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 2: for having me on your podcast. Josh, not Joshua, just Josh. 410 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: So explain yourself. 411 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: I just appreciate it. First of all, you recently appeared 412 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: on my podcast Make My Day, which is I did today. 413 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: In fact, was the lease of the episode for great 414 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 2: calendar freaks out there. I will love calenders. 415 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 3: Listening back in editing a few days ago, laughed a lot, 416 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 3: really enjoyed myself, felt great, felt grateful for your appearance 417 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 3: on the podcast and similarly for you asking me to 418 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: be on on this podcast. And I was like, I 419 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: should really show some gratitude about a little gift, just 420 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: a little token of appreciation. It's summer, Los Angeles, It's 421 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: it's always ice cream season, I imagine, And so I thought, 422 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 3: this seems this seems like a nice little treat gift. 423 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 2: Are you a big ice cream eater. 424 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: I I was. There was a period of the pandemic 425 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 3: where I was I was creaming heavy. I was going, good, Lord, 426 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: what you just said, Yeah, that was a bad way 427 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 3: to put it. I was. I was doing a lot 428 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 3: of ice cream eating. My I'm pretty that my problem 429 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 3: isn't quantity in any given sitting, it's frequency. So if 430 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: I keep ice cream in the house, it's not like 431 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 3: I never like sit and eat a whole pint, but like, 432 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: if I remember that I have a pint, I will 433 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 3: eat it in four consecutive servings on four consecutive days, right, 434 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 3: and it's gone. So my project is forgetting buying ice cream, 435 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: forgetting I have it, and then when I look in 436 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: the freezer for just regular ice being like, oh this 437 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: is nice. I'll have one spoonful later, and then they're 438 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 3: the spoon in the dishwasher. But so what I've been doing, 439 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 3: like because during kind of the like stay at home 440 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 3: remote work quarantine part of twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, 441 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: there's just there was just a little variety to life. 442 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: So I was just really getting into like I was 443 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 3: just trying every Ben and Jerry's flavor that they had 444 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 3: at my corner store, every Van Luwin flavor some other 445 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: brands that I was like, sure, whatever, so that's like 446 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: I've been into, like the wacky flavors. 447 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: Wait, so when you say wacky flavors, what are we 448 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: talking about here? Because I have big opinions on wacky flavors. 449 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 3: So they weren't all good, but it was like an 450 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: interesting experience. Like Ben and Jerry's makes a Canoli flavored 451 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: ice cream. Ooh yeah, and I wish there were a 452 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: heavier Marscapone, MARSCAPONI. I don't know. Again, I don't mean 453 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: to be anti Italian. 454 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: He's let's just put it out there. Josh has been 455 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 2: fighting against the Italian people for decades, and I brought 456 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: him on this podcast to put an end to this bigotry. 457 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: We have got to stop this anti Italian maniac. 458 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 3: But it was a It was pretty good. But I 459 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: wish that cheese, like the Canoli filling flavor were stronger. 460 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 3: But I was like, right, this is interesting to try. Sure, 461 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: I've got in my freezer right now, like a Van 462 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 3: Lewin mocha cookie something that's very good. 463 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: Oh see that sounds lovely. 464 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's terrific. It's not too not too adventurous. It's 465 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: not like, Okay, he hits a chocolate base, but then 466 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 3: there's like a little sea salt and gravel and holy 467 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: water loose dog for yeah. 468 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that to me, I think that, you know, within 469 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 2: the world of ice cream, anyone who has eats ice 470 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: enough that they're like, well, this time, I'm just going 471 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: to not enjoy in any way. It's just going to 472 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: be a horrible experience. I can't do that. When I'm 473 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: going to pay six dollars for an ice cream cone, 474 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 2: it better be incredibly enjoyable, because I've taken the time. 475 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: I'm I want to enjoy myself. I enjoy so few 476 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: things at this point that if you're going to fill 477 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: my ice cream with loose teeth and you know, like 478 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: band aids, it's what are we talking about. That's not 479 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 2: a treat, it's a dare. 480 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 3: It's you know, sometimes there's music like like it's like 481 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 3: free jazz, where if you're a connoisseur of jazz music 482 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: and you're like, I've heard the standards, I've heard them 483 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 3: played every which way. I just want to hear people 484 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 3: break in all the rules and I can respect that 485 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: because you're so immersed in the world, that you need 486 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 3: something new and bracing that's going to kind of like 487 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 3: snap you to attention. I just never have that need 488 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: with dessert, right, I just never I feel like I'm 489 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: up for a new flavor. But I don't think it 490 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 3: ever has to be something like it doesn't have to 491 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: be like a challenge or a shock to my sensibility. 492 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: Right, I don't need like laundry deterg to write. You know, 493 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 2: there are certain things I just know are not going 494 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: to be enjoyable. They're not going to taste like a treat. 495 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 2: I think in general, human beings have figured out the 496 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: palette we can use for dessert. Sure, chocolate, peanut, butter, fruit, 497 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: you know, there are plenty. 498 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: I've only named three here. There's like but I agree, 499 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 3: I think, like, oh, you know what I like? This 500 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 3: is what I was looking at Wanderlust Creamery, and there 501 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 3: was one place in Los Angeles that looked too aggressive, 502 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: Like there's a place called and I don't I've never 503 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: been the description of the ice cream, like the flavors. 504 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 3: I was like, these are interesting, but that the the 505 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 3: pictures all looked like too designed for Instagram, Like it 506 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 3: looked like the mix ins were Instagram quantities not like 507 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 3: good quantities for eating, and the like font choice and 508 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 3: everything was incredibly aggressive, and I was like, I don't 509 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 3: need an ice cream that's trying to simulate the experience 510 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 3: of like, uh, cocaine at five in the morning, when 511 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 3: you've been out since one am. So I saw Wanderlust 512 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: and what one thing that appealed to me was that 513 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 3: there were flavors that are dessert like that I've not 514 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 3: seen in ice cream frequently, Like a Vietnamese coffee ice cream, right, 515 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: a flavor I love, like a coffee flavor with some 516 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 3: sweet and condensed milk. That's a flavor that I'm like, 517 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: what a treat, But to ice creamify it that seems 518 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: new and fun to me. 519 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: Yes, Wanderlust does do that where they're respectfully pushing the 520 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: boundaries of true exactly. They're evolving well we've already done, 521 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: or finding other things that happened to make sense as 522 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: dessert or you know that we've we've seen succeed and 523 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: dessert in some way before, and turning them into ice cream. 524 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: And turning kind of like like desserts of various like 525 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 3: different food cultures and traditions into ice cream is what 526 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: some of it looked like, and I'm like, oh, that's cool, 527 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: like an ice cream version of whatever, like a flawn 528 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: or something, you. 529 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: Know, not that seciety. 530 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: We're like, oh yeah, we're in the dessert world and 531 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: you're taking this and putting it in a scoop, and 532 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm intrigued by that. But it's not like, oh, there's 533 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: so many fucking cookies in this cookie monster would o 534 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: d okay? 535 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: Well, we are trying to kill every member of Sesame 536 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: Street with our yes. 537 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 538 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 539 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 3: If a child saw this, they would weep because they 540 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 3: wouldn't believe that ice cream could look like this, right, 541 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 3: But I think, yeah, like a subtle like just and 542 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: I tried to think about it from an enjoyability standpoint 543 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 3: rather than because we had once gosh, what was it? 544 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: It was like a milkshake with a little like we 545 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: It was like a treat someone sent us as an 546 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 3: old job, where it was like a milkshake, but on 547 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 3: top was like the way you would garnish, like a 548 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 3: bloody mary with olives. Was like a donut. And it's 549 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: like this is too much. First of all, too much dessert. 550 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 3: There's no great way to eat it, but like when 551 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 3: you want a milk, Like a milkshake is so much 552 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: dessert already. We don't need a second dessert on top 553 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: of it to just like really hammer home, like I 554 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 3: don't want to live. 555 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: Well by the time you eat that donut, you're not 556 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: going to want the milkshake any correct, Yeah, you're going 557 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: to feel sick. 558 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: You can't like if you want like a garnish that's 559 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 3: a like a gummy bear a single or three gummy bears, 560 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 3: the way you do olives on a Martin, but like 561 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: a doughnut, like a mini cupcake. It's like this is 562 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: a separate, a separate dessert endeavor. 563 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: It's truly Instagram culture. I mean it is all of 564 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: that is just built to have a picture taken of it, right, 565 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: and no one's actually enjoying that, no, And. 566 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: I think it's like kind of like I don't know, 567 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 3: it just feels like a little wasteful because it's a 568 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 3: lot to consume out of the pressure of like, well, 569 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: I paid money for this. I don't want it to 570 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 3: go to waste. But it's more for the visual aesthetic, 571 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 3: Like I would rather get something that I enjoy more 572 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 3: and just like enjoy it because like I don't know. 573 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 3: Dessert does not have to be for Instagram. There are 574 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 3: already we already have senses to enjoy dessert without it 575 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: also having to be for other visuals. 576 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, wander Lust, I think they do a nice job. 577 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: But they I think they say it's like inspired by travel, which, 578 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: let's be honest, is a little annoying. But the ice 579 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: cream itself is so wonderful that it makes up for it, 580 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: and it's not like inspired by travel, And now it's 581 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 2: like a it tastes like a suitcase or. 582 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 3: Airplane. It's like blood shredded up boarding passive. 583 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: Right, So, I think they do a nice job. Are 584 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: you a traveling person? Do you enjoy traveling? 585 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: I do like to travel. I'm like pretty well traveled 586 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 3: in the United States just from stand up and I 587 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: like them. Yeah. So I've been to places that I 588 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: like wouldn't have otherwise necessarily gone, that I've really enjoyed, Like, 589 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: are there any surprising ones? Like Asheville, North Carolina is 590 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 3: like a beloved city. But I think being booked to 591 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 3: do stand up there is what kind of like accelerated 592 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 3: my timeline of actually visiting, and I've been back since. 593 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 3: It's a great place. So it's not It wasn't like, 594 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: oh I would never I would never think to go there, 595 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 3: but it was like, oh, this is a reason to 596 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 3: go to this place and then hang around for a 597 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 3: couple of days and like enjoy the right. 598 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: Have you been to all fifty states? 599 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 3: I haven't been to Alaska or Hawaii, Okay, but every 600 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 3: I've been to most of them. I've performed in like, 601 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 3: well well over half of the states, which is wow, 602 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 3: that's fun. Yeah, so like that. Yeah, I just I like, 603 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: I like to travel in the United States. I love 604 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 3: a road trip. 605 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: I love a road trip. Oh yeah, what's the longest 606 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 2: road trip you've been on? 607 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 3: I went. I took thirty days with a friend or 608 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 3: twenty eight days maybe with a friend in two thousand 609 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 3: and nine, and we drove we were living in Boston, 610 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 3: down to Texas and then across the southwest and then 611 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 3: up to Seattle and then back east. Oh it was awesome. 612 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: Did you ever feel like you were going to lose 613 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 2: your mind? Though? 614 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: It was like a little like I think by the 615 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 3: time we got to there were a couple of cities 616 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 3: we stayed in for a few days, and I think 617 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: by the time we got to Chicago, like our last night. 618 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: We were like, I guess we could like find a 619 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 3: hotel tonight or we could just drive home now. So 620 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 3: it was like ten pm. We got off stage, got 621 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: in my little Toyota Corolla, and then just like started driving. 622 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 3: We set the DVR. Excuse me DVR, we said, the GPS. 623 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: This was when you had like a little GPS unit 624 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 3: in the car, oh you know, two thousand and nine. 625 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 3: It was like a little iPad mini sized guy that 626 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: just was like, all I do is tell you where 627 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 3: to go. So we sent the GPS to Boston from Chicago, 628 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 3: and it took us through Canada. What yeah, And going 629 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 3: into Canada at the time, they were just like hey, 630 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 3: glad to have you. Welcome to the neighborhood. And we 631 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: drove straight through. We like stopped to get like a 632 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 3: coffee and use a rest stop bathroom, and then we 633 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 3: got back to the United States three hours later with 634 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 3: no passports because we did not attend I'm leaving the country. 635 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 3: The customs in the US were like, all right, what 636 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 3: are you doing in Canada? And we're like our comedians 637 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 3: were coming from Chicago. We just drove straight east and 638 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 3: this is what happened. And they were like, you just 639 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 3: accidentally drove it to Canada. Were like, yeah, they've incredibly suspicious, 640 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 3: very suspicious. I would not have trusted me two thousand 641 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 3: and nine though, a different time, a different time, just 642 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 3: flying through the world, no quarantine necessary, not a care 643 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 3: in the world. Yeah, could just freely move between countries. 644 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 3: About two weeks of staying in a hotel, slowly losing 645 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: your mind. 646 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 2: Do you think you're going to travel at all now 647 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: with being vaccinated in this kind of thing, I mean, 648 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 2: assuming you're not an anti vaxer. 649 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 3: I'm vaccinated. Yeah, not to brag to hundreds of nations 650 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 3: in the world that I have not had that option yet, 651 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 3: but I'm vaccinated. I think I've planned like a couple 652 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 3: of little things. We went to Miami for a couple days, 653 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: my wife and I for anniversary and we just sat 654 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 3: like by a pool and enjoyed the sunlay. That was 655 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 3: really nice. And we're going to Philly for a few 656 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 3: days for her birthday. So we're doing mostly like short 657 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 3: few day trips within the United States. 658 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got to figure out some sort of travel. 659 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 2: I'm gonna absolutely snap here if I don't get out 660 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 2: of the city. 661 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 3: I started because we went to Miami in May, and 662 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 3: then around the fourth of July, we had friends that 663 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 3: were like, Oh, we're going to the Jersey Shore for 664 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 3: a couple of days. We're going to Hampton's a couple 665 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 3: days are do you have any plans? And I was like, 666 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 3: I was looking forward so much to this trip in 667 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 3: May that I truly forgot to plan the rest of 668 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 3: my wife and just like stopped thinking into the future 669 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 3: because for a year, I just got to the point 670 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 3: of like tomorrow is like today, which was like yesterday, 671 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 3: and so I don't really have to make plans. I 672 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 3: have to like, in fact not make plans and just 673 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 3: like decide to live life one day at a time. 674 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 3: And now that that's an option to like do stuff 675 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 3: on purpose, I had forgotten how to do that. 676 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 2: Right, Doing things on purpose and planning ahead and also 677 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 2: being spontaneous right now are two things. I'm just like, Oh, 678 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 2: you can do these things, and yeah, they will work 679 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 2: out in some way. 680 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 3: My wife had plans one night to like have dinner 681 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 3: with friends, and I forgot to think about what to 682 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 3: do that night, and I was like, I was like, oh, 683 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 3: I could see a friend that I haven't seen in 684 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 3: a while, like someone that she doesn't know as well 685 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 3: that you know that like we would just talk about 686 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 3: whatever comedy or high school or whatever it is. And 687 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, who are my friend? 688 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 2: Right, there's a whole list of people who, for all 689 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,439 Speaker 2: I know might be dead at this point that I've 690 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 2: just like lost contact with who I would have regularly 691 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 2: probably seen once a month or something. And I'm just like, 692 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 2: I need to sit down and just make a list 693 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: of people that may have vanished for my life. 694 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 3: Yes, I've been, you know, going to a few social 695 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 3: events and like a bunch of comedy stuff, doing some 696 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 3: more stand up and like my excuse me, my comically 697 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,439 Speaker 3: large reactions when I see someone, and it's always the same. 698 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 3: I was like, hey, like arms out stretched up in 699 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 3: the air as if I'm about to start the YMCA, 700 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 3: and then I go, I haven't seen you in forever, 701 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 3: And then I go, wait, I haven't seen anyone forever, 702 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 3: but it's nice to see you. 703 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. There's still like occasionally meeting up with people and 704 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 2: like we just kind of slowly approach each other then 705 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 2: stop without hugging, and then I'm like, well, now the 706 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 2: moment is lost. If I can't now hug you, and 707 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 2: so there's just kind of the staring at each other 708 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: that's uncomfortable, but we're all we're all relearning. 709 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 3: The far away enthusiasmts like what's up? And then you're like, okay, 710 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 3: do we do we shake hands? Some people I think 711 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 3: have been very like anti hug philosophically, which seems like 712 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 3: a cheat. Like if you don't like to hug, that's 713 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 3: one thing, like totally fair. I don't want to violate 714 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 3: anyone's personal boundaries. But when you're anti hug as like 715 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 3: a like people shouldn't hug, it's like, come on, what 716 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 3: are we supposed to do? We have been so remote 717 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 3: from one another, like people shouldn't hug? Like what kind 718 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 3: of take? 719 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: Is that? 720 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 2: Not a great take? 721 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 3: The one that the one that popped into my head 722 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 3: the other day that I was like, oh I should 723 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 3: just say this on Twitter, get ratioed into oblivion and 724 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 3: delete my account, is that because this isn't really a thing. 725 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 3: But like people are like, oh, are we going to 726 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 3: stop blowing up birthday candles? Which like maybe sure that 727 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 3: one I get, But the one that I've been thinking 728 00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 3: about is, oh, just throw the coats on the bed, throwing. 729 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 2: Coats on the bed. It's always been like, what's that, 730 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: I mean it's rough. Nope, coats are kind of just dirty. 731 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 3: Yes, and on the bed they're the dirtiest. If I 732 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 3: get my coat dirty, like if I if I spill 733 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 3: something on my shirt, right like if I spill like 734 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 3: a little coffee on my shirt, I will if I'm home, 735 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 3: I change it right away. I put it in the laundry, 736 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 3: I wash it. If I spill a little coffee on 737 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 3: my coat, that coat's staying coffeed up until winter. 738 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 2: Of course, people are worried about like pant like wearing 739 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 2: jeans on the bed or whatever. Jeans get washed pretty regularly. 740 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 2: Coats coats, coats may never get washed, may never get washed. 741 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 2: I will usually do one at that I'll like be 742 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 2: mindful of doing it, like when it's warm enough that 743 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, the coats are going away. 744 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 3: But like I also don't have like just a vast 745 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 3: array of coats. So if I put my warm if 746 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my coat's got a little stain on it, 747 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 3: I'll take it to the dry cleaner and I'm just 748 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 3: cold for a week. 749 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 2: I mean, something really bad has has to have happened 750 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 2: for me to wash a coat like I had, I 751 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 2: have to have buried a body to be like, oh, 752 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: maybe I should throw it in the wash. 753 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 3: Oh, I was over it, Dexter's gill. 754 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 2: Maybe it's time I'll put it in the wash. Otherwise, 755 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 2: And so to be putting those on beds, that's fine. Yeah, 756 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 2: throw on the floor, Yeah, throw them on the floor. 757 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 2: Floor and coat are a better match than bed and ghosts. Certainly, 758 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 2: I would rather be putting your shoes on my bed. 759 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 3: Just just rub your butt on my. 760 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 2: Everybody, take your diaper off and throw it on the bed. 761 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 3: I'm sure there's been a party that started like that. 762 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 3: But yeah, throw the coats on the bed is like 763 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 3: something I hadn't considered in a long time, because I 764 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 3: definitely like, I've been going to some gatherings now, but 765 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 3: it's they're, you know, largely coat free because of the weather. 766 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 3: So back in the winter, the first night, it's like, well, 767 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,479 Speaker 3: we do the coats, and so we'll keep them away 768 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 3: from my bed. You need to lead the charge. I'm 769 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 3: gonna no coats on the bed. That's that's my new mantra. 770 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, look coats, ice cream, all of this aside. 771 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 2: I think we should play a game. Do you want 772 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 2: to play a game I would love to do you 773 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 2: want to play a game called Gift or a Curse 774 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 2: or a game called Gift Master. 775 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 3: Let's see Gift or a Curse. 776 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I will tell you how we're going to play 777 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: it in a minute. I need a number between one 778 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 2: and ten. 779 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 3: Four. 780 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I have to do some light calculating. Don't freak 781 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 2: out right now. You're going to promote something, You're gonna 782 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 2: recommend something, Do whatever you want. I'll be right back. 783 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 3: Okay. Oh, this is such a pleasure to be here 784 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 3: with you on Bridges Podcast. I will suggest that you 785 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 3: enjoy if you haven't seen Itjesus and Marrow went to Cambridge, 786 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 3: Massachusetts to hang out with Acclaimed uh Celebrate to tell 787 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 3: us yo Yo Ma and they got him to play 788 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 3: contemporary Ish music pop music and it was really great. 789 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 3: Yo Yo Ma has incredible vibes. He played the late 790 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 3: DMX's Rough Riders Anthem. He did Toxic by Britney Spears. 791 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 3: It is a treat I really I had very little 792 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 3: to do with it coming together the way it did. 793 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 3: It looks great. Our directors did great. Our writers did great. 794 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 3: Jesus and Marrow were so funny. It's on YouTube Jesus 795 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 3: and Marrow interviewing Yo Yo Ma and Cambridge, Massachusetts. It said, delight, 796 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 3: that sounds wonderful. 797 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 2: I've got to watch that. 798 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 3: It was all very fine. 799 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 2: I was half listening you. I mean, we already talked 800 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 2: about your podcast Make My Day. But people should be 801 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 2: listening to that as well. 802 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 3: Thank you. 803 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 2: People should be following Josh on Twitter. Thank you. He's 804 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,439 Speaker 2: all over the place. Listen. You know, Josh really does 805 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 2: a lot of things very well. So type his name 806 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,439 Speaker 2: into Google and go on a ride. 807 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Josh Gondleman feet. 808 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 2: Sure, the feet pictures you're going to see. It's just 809 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 2: discussed astonishing. 810 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,720 Speaker 3: You're gonna be like, does this man have a face here, 811 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 3: Josh Gondleman wife. Sure, we'll see if the internet knows 812 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 3: you I'm married. 813 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 2: To that's always an interesting uh search suggestion where they're 814 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, so people are now just looking for 815 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:28,240 Speaker 2: your partner. 816 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's I mean, my wife Maris is a 817 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 3: writer and podcaster. But I feel like when you type 818 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 3: in Josh gondal wife, that's all you're doing. Podcast. 819 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 2: It's very Josh, Let's play gift or a curse. This 820 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 2: is how it works. I'm gonna name three things. You're 821 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,720 Speaker 2: gonna tell me if there are a gift or a curse? 822 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 2: And why? Uh, there are correct answers. People have lost 823 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,280 Speaker 2: the game before. I think you know, very few people 824 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 2: have come close to that's a difficult game. It's a 825 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 2: game that's ruined careers, marriages, et cetera. So be careful, 826 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 2: please sure. Okay, So first up, gift a curse. And 827 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 2: this is a listener suggestion from someone named Ryan. Okay, 828 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 2: Ryan has suggested gift a curse. People dancing around their 829 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 2: kitchens in movies and TV, so you know, I think 830 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 2: this is kind of you know, there will be a 831 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 2: song will suddenly start playing it the people, the characters 832 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 2: in the movie are dancing around their kitchens. 833 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 3: This is a curse for sure. And why because I'm 834 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 3: not gonna lie. I've done a little kitchen dancing. But 835 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 3: it's you know, if I put some music on when 836 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 3: I'm cooking, maybe a little shoulder shimmy, maybe I get 837 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 3: the hips working. But we're not talking. Never in my 838 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 3: life have I had the house to myself and gone 839 00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 3: full Tom cruise risky business dress shirt, no pants, and 840 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 3: if anyone does, it's an homage to Tom Cruise and 841 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 3: risky Business. That's not a natural thing to want to do. 842 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 3: Like again, I think it is just improper representation of 843 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 3: dancing in the kitchen, That's what it. It's too choreographed, 844 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 3: it's too like the knife is too involved while you're cooking. 845 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 3: It's just not careful. I don't I think it is. 846 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 3: It's too flamboyant. It's like the milkshake with the doughnut 847 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 3: on top. This is for the gram. This is not 848 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 3: how people dance on their own. 849 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 2: Josh, Josh, Josh Josh. You step into the Gift for 850 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 2: a Curse arena and you fall flat on your face. 851 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 2: I think this is again why do I always say 852 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 2: I think I know that this is a gift. Whatever 853 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 2: you're experiencing in your kitchen is apparently just not enough. 854 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 2: You're not letting go. I love to watch the people 855 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 2: in the movie. I mean, actually Risky Business is I 856 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 2: find that whole thing with the old time rock and 857 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 2: roll is so annoying. That image is so ier. That 858 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 2: song sucks that whole like I've seen that parodied into 859 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 2: the ground. I don't ever want to see that image again, 860 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 2: and I never want to hear that song again. And 861 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to even bring it up on this podcast, 862 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 2: but it does remind me that it's one of the 863 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 2: worst songs ever, and I need to put it in 864 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 2: my worst songs ever playlist. That aside. Outside of that, 865 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 2: I love to watch people dancing around in their kitchens 866 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 2: to some annoying song, and I love to do it 867 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 2: myself when I mean, I have to be alone. If 868 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 2: my boyfriend's at home, I'm not dancing around the kitchen. 869 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 2: But the moment it is I put on the music, 870 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 2: I'm baking cookies or I'm making something to eat, I'm 871 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 2: dancing pretty, I'm dancing a lot. Let's be honest. 872 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 3: Okay, this is maybe just me, this is my experience 873 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,760 Speaker 3: as a person of low impact dancing. 874 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 2: You've got to dance more in the kitchen. Maybe not 875 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 2: with a knife. I think you bring up a good 876 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 2: point there. If there's much knife action, you obviously have 877 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 2: a death wish and no one wants to end up 878 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 2: like having to explain to an EMT. Listen. I love 879 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 2: the song. I got a little careless and now I'm 880 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 2: bleeding everywhere. 881 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,879 Speaker 3: No scrubs came on while I was. 882 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 2: Chopping carriers, and now four of my fingers are in 883 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 2: the drain and. 884 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 3: I'm surrounded by people wearing scrubs. I'd be so many 885 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 3: back together. 886 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 2: That's actually very appropriate, and hopefully that can happen. I 887 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 2: bet that's somebody's dream, So, you know, hopefully that works 888 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 2: out for someone. I don't want that to happen to me. 889 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,479 Speaker 2: I just want to have a nice time dancing around 890 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 2: the kitchen. I support characters in TV and movies dancing 891 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 2: around the kitchen. I support myself, and I encourage Joshua 892 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 2: to do the same. I'm only going to say that 893 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 2: when I'm mad at you. 894 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair. That is often how it comes out. 895 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So look, you failed the first one, and that's 896 00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 2: totally fair. People make mistakes. Next up, gift or a curse? Okay, 897 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 2: where is it? Oh, gift or a curse? This is 898 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,839 Speaker 2: another listener suggestion from somebody named Oliver. And this is 899 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 2: when someone says, do you know who you look like? 900 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 2: Gift or a curse? So when somebody, I guess, when 901 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 2: they say to you, hey, do you know who you 902 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 2: look like? 903 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 3: I think I think it's a gift, okay, and it's 904 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 3: it's telling you something about that person. It's telling you 905 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 3: that that person doesn't know to not do that. And 906 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 3: there's probably other stuff they don't know, like, you know, 907 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 3: just little stuff. They're probably the kind of person who 908 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 3: when you tell them about something you love, they go, oh, 909 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 3: I hate that for you know, just like aggressively, and 910 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 3: you're like, hey, man, I wasn't soliciting. I was just 911 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 3: telling you a preferen sie. They're probably the kind of 912 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 3: person that, like they when you go out for someone's 913 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,919 Speaker 3: birthday and we're like, okay, let's all split the check, 914 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 3: except it's Jason's birthday, so we'll cover We'll cover Jason, 915 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 3: they're probably like they quibble about that. You know, it's 916 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 3: like this person probably just doesn't have a mastery of 917 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 3: the subtler elements of living in society, just basic basic 918 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 3: human interaction. You know, do you know who you look like? 919 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 3: If you don't say one of the ten most attractive people, 920 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 3: and not even just because I look I think the 921 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 3: beauty standards right with there, especially for women, there's there's 922 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 3: like such a narrow band of what we consider to 923 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 3: be like a hot person. However, as a society. We 924 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 3: know the cultural resonance of of when you say, do 925 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 3: you you know who you look like? And uh, yeah, 926 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,279 Speaker 3: I know who I look like. You know, it's so 927 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 3: unless it's someone that is three orders of magnitude more 928 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 3: attractive than I actually am, I do not want to 929 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 3: hear it. I don't need to hear anymore that I 930 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:07,439 Speaker 3: look like the late great artist Keith Herring. I don't 931 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 3: need to hear anymore that I that I look like 932 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 3: acclaimed filmmaker and comedic actor David Wayne. I don't need 933 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 3: to hear anywhere that I look like Craig Fann, the 934 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 3: lead singer of the Whole City. I know these things. 935 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 3: I know them there that you don't need to tell 936 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 3: me unless you're like, do you know who you look like? 937 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 3: You look like if Stanley Duci were hotter, like a hotter. 938 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 3: That's what you always have to do, you know what 939 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 3: I mean? The other one that I'm always tempted to 940 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 3: do because it's not an insult, but it's not a compliment, 941 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 3: so I never do it. But I'll be like, I'll 942 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 3: be like, I saw this person that looked like you, 943 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 3: but less attractive, so I knew it wasn't you, but like, 944 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 3: there's no way to take that right. What a worthless utterance. 945 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 3: But I do think it often. Wow, oh, book, open 946 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 3: and close. 947 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 2: You nailed that in such a I mean thorough beautiful way. 948 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 2: I absolutely agree. I mean your argument there is just perfect. 949 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 2: I mean, that could have that would stand up in 950 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court. Absolutely a gift in that exact way, 951 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,320 Speaker 2: because that question is one of the most harrowing things 952 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 2: you could possibly hear. Yeah, unless it's one of like 953 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 2: the six objectively most gorgeous people on the planet that 954 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 2: you're about to compare the person to shut up, just 955 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 2: don't don't say that. No one wants to hear it. 956 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,280 Speaker 3: We all know. I've lived thirty six years on my life. 957 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 3: I know what I look like. I've seen other people. 958 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 3: I know which of them look like me. So it's 959 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 3: a gift you're giving. You're giving someone the Rosetta stone 960 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,280 Speaker 3: to your bad personality. 961 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 2: That excellent. I mean, wow, what a way to turn 962 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 2: around the game than you. I mean, you've really just 963 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 2: nailed it there in such an incredible way. Nobody ask 964 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 2: that question. Cut it out. If you're if you've if 965 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,439 Speaker 2: you're the sort of person that asks that question, it's 966 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,880 Speaker 2: never too late to start a new and be better. 967 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 2: Stop it. Okay, So number three Joshua're headed into the 968 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 2: finals here, gift or a curse and let me I'm 969 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 2: struggling to find and that's completely fine. I am not perfect, 970 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,799 Speaker 2: and the listener is patient. Gift or a curse? Here 971 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 2: we go. They've got a lot of bomb work to do. Yes, 972 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 2: they could wait. The bomb has still not been diffused. 973 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 2: They're dealing with a super villain level bomb. This is 974 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 2: another listener's suggestion. So one named Jessica, gift a curse. 975 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 2: Families that have their own whistle to find each other 976 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:48,879 Speaker 2: in stores. Now, this is an interesting one. Very specific, Yeah, 977 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 2: incredibly specific one, and I appreciate specificity. What do you 978 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 2: think I'm. 979 00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 3: Going to say gift because any time you see a 980 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 3: thing in the wild where you're like, I thought this 981 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 3: was just from like TV, and not even TV that 982 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 3: happens now, I thought this is from like fifty sitcoms 983 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 3: and you see people doing it. I think it's like 984 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 3: a gift to see in the wild, because that's a 985 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,840 Speaker 3: story like if I saw that happen, if I was 986 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 3: in a target per se and I saw like a 987 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 3: dad like and then you see, like his five kids 988 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 3: all coming towards him. 989 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 2: Like all of them. 990 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,839 Speaker 3: I would be like, I'm going to tell people about this. 991 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 3: It is. It's not expected. It is. I think it's 992 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 3: a gift in its scarcity and its specificity. I think 993 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 3: if every time I went to Trader Joe's there was like, uh, 994 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 3: just a plethora of families with their own different whistles 995 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 3: and it sounded like an aviary, I would switch my 996 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 3: answer to curse. But because of how rare this is 997 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 3: and how strange and how like ineffective it seems. But 998 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 3: if it works, I what a gift to behold. 999 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 2: Wow, you've done it. I absolutely agree. I mean, I 1000 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 2: don't know that I've ever experienced this in any way, 1001 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 2: but the idea of it's so old fashioned and bizarre. 1002 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 2: I can only I mean, if I were a retail 1003 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 2: employee and I was constantly hearing whistling to summon the troops, 1004 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:35,280 Speaker 2: probably very annoying, deeply as someone who might come across 1005 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 2: that at some point, it'll feel like an old fashioned treat. 1006 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 2: And I mean I couldn't ask for more. I think 1007 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 2: that's absolutely a gift. I mean, I'm not going to 1008 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 2: be doing it anytime soon. No, But if I have 1009 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 2: a trademark whistle, let alone one that like like activates 1010 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 2: some chip in the children's head to bring them to 1011 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 2: you in the produce section. 1012 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 3: Because I do love the variations of it that appear 1013 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 3: in in the real world, like if I'm at a 1014 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 3: party with my wife and you know those subtle signals 1015 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,280 Speaker 3: of like we gotta go home, Like I love that 1016 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 3: kind of like subtle coded communication. Oh yeah, because if 1017 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 3: he feels like intimacy, it feels like people recognizing and 1018 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 3: seeing each other and like acting for the common good 1019 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 3: of the relationship. And this is like an old timey 1020 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,279 Speaker 3: Swiss family Robinson version of that, where now it's just 1021 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 3: like you text the family group chat and everyone knows, hey, 1022 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 3: I'm at the front. I checked out already, come on. 1023 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 3: But to have a signature whistle, it's like, yeah, good 1024 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 3: on you. 1025 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic. Anything that makes us closer to birds. I'm 1026 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 2: on board with Josh. You did a decent job there. 1027 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,359 Speaker 2: I think I was very worried about you coming into 1028 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 2: the game, and then you did it. You've got two three, 1029 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 2: Thank you. Pretty good score, not bad, not perfect, But 1030 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,400 Speaker 2: no one's asking No one's asking for perfection. 1031 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 3: Here. Thank you. 1032 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 2: This is the final part of the podcast. This is 1033 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 2: called I Said No Emails. People write into I Said 1034 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 2: No Gifts at gmail dot com. Every one of them 1035 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 2: has a question, a situation, a problem, whatever. They're seeking advice. 1036 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,800 Speaker 2: Will you help me answer and give some advice? 1037 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 3: Would love you? 1038 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 2: Okay? This first one says, dear Bridger and disobeying guest, 1039 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 2: that's indicating you. My husband turns thirty in March of 1040 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, so we're planning ahead here and I 1041 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,360 Speaker 2: want to make sure we do something special to celebrate. 1042 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 2: We love to travel, he's already been to all fifty states. 1043 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 2: We enjoy a good red wine. We have two big 1044 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 2: dogs we love spending time with. And we have no 1045 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,880 Speaker 2: kids yet but hope to be pregnant around that time. 1046 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,799 Speaker 2: What's the best way to celebrate turning thirty? Thanks and 1047 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 2: love the podcast. Thank you, Lara Beth or Lara Beth 1048 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 2: La You are a It's always a little confusing for me. 1049 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,839 Speaker 2: Is Laura Laura? Is that the same name? It's hard 1050 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 2: for me to say Laura Laura, My apologies. What okay? 1051 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 2: So we're dealing with a real planner here. She's turning 1052 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 2: into the podcast a solid nine months or so. I 1053 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 2: appreciate this. 1054 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 3: I usually if I'm planning a vacation, I don't write 1055 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 3: into a podcast task where I should go to like 1056 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 3: two months out. 1057 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so her husband's going to be turning thirty. They're like, 1058 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 2: looks like they're trying to have a kid. It seems 1059 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 2: like they've got I mean, Laura, Laura, it sounds like 1060 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 2: on some level you've written into just tell me how 1061 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 2: full your life is, and congratulations. I appreciate that you've 1062 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 2: got it together in your early thirties or late twenties whatever. 1063 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 2: We don't know about. We don't know what Laura is. 1064 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 2: She might be ninety six. 1065 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 3: Hey, and if so, congratulations on nabbing that younger man. 1066 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 2: Right, but what do we think? What's a good birthday 1067 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 2: present for someone turning thirty who loves to travel? We 1068 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,959 Speaker 2: already talked, I mean interesting, interestingly, we've talked a little 1069 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 2: bit about travel. Here you are talking to someone who 1070 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 2: has to two men who have never been to all 1071 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 2: fifty states. So we're lesser men than your husband. So 1072 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 2: just keep that in mind while we give you advice. 1073 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 3: I would say my advice is you're planning on having 1074 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 3: a child, lovely. I would say, do something that you 1075 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 3: will that you couldn't enjoy as much with a child. 1076 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 3: There's lots of stuff that you can do with a 1077 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 3: child that is like that is you can say that 1078 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 3: or do it again with a child. Right, Oh, Disney World, 1079 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 3: that's really fun with a kid, to appreciate their wonder 1080 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 3: even National parks, that's something that you could do with 1081 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 3: a child that their majesty. But something that is not 1082 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 3: for kids, whether that's something that's like a little more 1083 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,920 Speaker 3: physically rigorous than a kid would want, something that children 1084 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 3: would consider boring, but like something that you're like if 1085 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 3: you had a toddler, Like, think about yourself. I know 1086 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 3: you're a planner, Laurabath, So think about yourself in a 1087 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five you have a two and a half 1088 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 3: year old, What do you wish you could do more 1089 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 3: than anything in the world. 1090 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 2: Do that Josh is saying, go on a drug fueled rampage. 1091 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 2: That's what I'm hearing. Which, look, you know that could 1092 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 2: be a that's an experience. We talk a lot about 1093 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 2: giving experiences as gifts on this podcast, and that feels 1094 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 2: like one. But no, I agree with Josh here. Eventually 1095 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 2: the kid is not They're not going to be you know, 1096 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 2: they're going to be wonderful in so many ways, but 1097 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 2: they are going to I don't want to say stand 1098 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 2: in the way of certain adult activities, but look, take 1099 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 2: a traveling husband to another country. Go to a country 1100 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 2: that might be a little more difficult for a young child. 1101 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,920 Speaker 2: That is more adult experience. So just go on a 1102 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 2: you know what are we thinking, go somewhere a little 1103 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 2: more out there. 1104 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, go Like if they made a sequel to you know, 1105 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 3: they make a sequel to a movie where they go 1106 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 3: to like now now they're like in Europe for like 1107 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 3: National Impoon's European Vacation or whatever. If they made like 1108 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:23,720 Speaker 3: a sideways where they go to Europe, like a wine taste, 1109 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 3: you know, like a wine you like red wines. Some 1110 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 3: that's definitively not for children unless they're cool kids. But 1111 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 3: I think like if something like that, like go to 1112 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 3: a place like a vineyard and stay in a villa, 1113 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 3: you know, something Italy, quaint and nice, Yeah, Italy, where 1114 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 3: a kid would be like the stinks and you're drunk. 1115 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 3: I think that's perfect. 1116 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 2: I find a good dog sitter, head to Italy and 1117 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 2: enjoy these last few moments where you can get on 1118 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 2: like a ten hour plane flight without worrying that the 1119 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 2: baby's going to be crying. 1120 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, without having loaded every episode of Blue Eye onto 1121 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 3: your high path. 1122 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 2: Right Okay, Laurabeth answered, You've got plenty of time to 1123 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 2: do the travel planning. We don't even need to. You 1124 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 2: don't need any more advice, and do not write in again. 1125 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 2: I'm not giving any more free advice to you, Laura Beeth 1126 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,439 Speaker 2: or Laura Beth, I don't know again. I apologize no's 1127 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 2: answer one more here. This is deer Bridger and valued guest. 1128 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 2: In over a year of quarantine, I've had the opportunity 1129 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 2: to reflect on a few things. In that time. I 1130 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 2: noticed a pattern. I have poor tastes in men who 1131 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 2: also have poor taste in gifts from lovers past. I've 1132 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 2: received pairs of socks that don't match. A washboard, complete 1133 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 2: with the promise that he'd provide Oh good lord, I 1134 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 2: hate to even say this because this sounds awful, complete 1135 01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 2: with the promise that he'd provide washboard abs the next year, 1136 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 2: dot dot dot, yikes, et cetera. Oddly enough, I've received 1137 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 2: white shoes to paint on, apparently twice from two separate exes. 1138 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 2: All this is to ask you, how can I respectfully 1139 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 2: communicate to the next suitor that I'd like him to 1140 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 2: raise the bar A bit hate to say it, but 1141 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to get another pair of blank canvas shoes. 1142 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 2: Help me break the cycle regards that's from Mo. MO 1143 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:29,920 Speaker 2: has a type, a very strange, horrible type. It sounds like, 1144 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,480 Speaker 2: I mean this washboard abs thing. I mean, I hope 1145 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 2: that that was just an immediate I'm dumping you. Yeah, 1146 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,840 Speaker 2: because if you stayed in the relationship a minute after that, Mo, 1147 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 2: You've got some work to do on your sec gift. 1148 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 2: That's a horrible gift and an annoying ex boyfriend. And 1149 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,640 Speaker 2: then how have you, Mo? How have you found two 1150 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,040 Speaker 2: separate people who have given you white shoes to draw on? 1151 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 2: Is that part of your dating profile? 1152 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 3: Right? Are you? Are you an artist who works in 1153 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 3: the medium of shoes, who's even so work life balance? Guys? 1154 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,800 Speaker 2: Oh, you're putting out something out there that is attracting 1155 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 2: these guys who are I don't even know what's happening. 1156 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I will say, Josh, you're a big shoe person. 1157 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 3: I am a big shoe person. Yeah, so do you have. 1158 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 2: Any insight into why this could possibly be happening or 1159 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:22,919 Speaker 2: is it just bad luck? 1160 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 3: I need to know more about Mo because I hesitate 1161 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 3: to venture. I guess, like, is she someone who designs 1162 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 3: her own clothes? Is not someone who designs their own clothes? 1163 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 3: You know? Like I don't, I don't know. If you're 1164 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 3: a crafts person who likes to do that kind of activity, 1165 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,320 Speaker 3: still not a great gift. A gift that's also a task. 1166 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's some work to do. 1167 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh you want a nice ferry shoes designing yourself Bearragamo. 1168 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 3: I think I have an advice for this, which is 1169 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 3: you might not want to hear it. It might be 1170 01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:01,959 Speaker 3: hard to handle. Tell your partner what you want for 1171 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 3: a gift. 1172 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 2: I think that that is actually excellent advice communicating and 1173 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,439 Speaker 2: obviously Mo has some level of and there's nothing wrong 1174 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,680 Speaker 2: with that. Standards about gifts, Toto. Mo is not just 1175 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 2: going to accept any gift, especially a washboard. I mean 1176 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,320 Speaker 2: the wash I mean, no one blames Moe for not 1177 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,080 Speaker 2: being thrilled out getting a washboard. 1178 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 3: Absolute, Well, that's not on you. 1179 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:34,480 Speaker 2: You're right, let your partner know what you want. Also, 1180 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 2: if you're if you're uncomfortable doing that, loudly talk about 1181 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 2: all these other horrible gifts you've gotten in the past, 1182 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 2: especially the shoes, because you know you've done it twice. 1183 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 2: We can't have this happen again. Just let them know 1184 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,000 Speaker 2: how awful all these gifts have been and hopefully that 1185 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 2: will get something going in the partner's brain that, oh, 1186 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 2: I've got to be careful. 1187 01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 3: Yes, I think, let them know that you've been burned 1188 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 3: before and you won't you won't be burned again. But 1189 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 3: also just say it if you're like I want wireless headphones, 1190 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 3: and be like, you know, I want to get a 1191 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,600 Speaker 3: pair of wireless headphones. This would be a great birthday present. 1192 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 3: Don't feel like you have to be creative and get 1193 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,640 Speaker 3: me like a bunch of disassembled tulips for me to 1194 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 3: glue back together, Like don't I think? I think like 1195 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:26,200 Speaker 3: there's this idea that the surprise gift is like, like 1196 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 3: you want a person to know your heart so well 1197 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,680 Speaker 3: that they that they give you the thing that you 1198 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 3: didn't know you wanted but then and that is really magical. 1199 01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,920 Speaker 3: But the next best thing is when they give you 1200 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 3: the thing you did know you wanted, because they also 1201 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,440 Speaker 3: knew you wanted it because they care about you and 1202 01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,760 Speaker 3: want you to be happy, and they listen right like 1203 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 3: you said, bridgie communication. If you're like, oh gosh, it 1204 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 3: doesn't have to be a specific thing. You don't have 1205 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,080 Speaker 3: to send them a link to a retail site, but 1206 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,760 Speaker 3: you go, you know, I really have been looking for 1207 01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:01,760 Speaker 3: like a nice new sweater that fits these cable net cardis. 1208 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,040 Speaker 3: Those are the marching orders. They can go off and 1209 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 3: at least work within those parameters. And even if they 1210 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 3: get you a real ugly sweater, you know they heard 1211 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,520 Speaker 3: you and that they tried and that they weren't just like, 1212 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. I got you some like gas station speed. 1213 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,000 Speaker 2: Which, by the way, excellent gift. 1214 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,680 Speaker 3: But you don't want to be faster at a gas station. 1215 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just want to, you know, metaphorically, give them 1216 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 2: that white pair of shoes to draw on as a gift, 1217 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 2: you know, does that make any sense? You've got to 1218 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:39,320 Speaker 2: give them the little canvas too to draw the gift on. 1219 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 2: Don't give them the exact thing, but something the boundaries 1220 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,680 Speaker 2: that will lead to the gift you want, and then 1221 01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 2: if it doesn't work out, then you're cursed. Apparently something's 1222 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 2: just going. I mean, there's a dark forces are working 1223 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,440 Speaker 2: against you, and that's something you have to deal with 1224 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 2: outside of the relationship. 1225 01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 3: And outside of the podcast. I don't think we are 1226 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,840 Speaker 3: qualified to this, this kind of curse in nature. 1227 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 2: Well we've answered. You know, we've done an excellent job 1228 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 2: here Mo and Laura Laura Beth I have both received 1229 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:18,720 Speaker 2: world class advice free of charge, which not a lot 1230 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:23,120 Speaker 2: of podcasts can promise. So look, I don't want to 1231 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:29,440 Speaker 2: diminish any other podcasts, but sometimes you just have to. Yeah, Josh, 1232 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,160 Speaker 2: look now I have ice cream in my future. Good 1233 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 2: ice cream. I've had a wonderful time talking to you. 1234 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 3: This is light. 1235 01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 2: I've got the full day ahead of me. I mean, 1236 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 2: it's only eleven o'clock for me right now. I'm going 1237 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 2: to just boost off like a rocket Jeff Bezos style 1238 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,360 Speaker 2: and just have a wonderful day. Thank you so much 1239 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,160 Speaker 2: for being here. 1240 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. 1241 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 2: This is a pleasure and listener. Now it's time for 1242 01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 2: you to unless it's the end of your day. I 1243 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 2: don't know. Again, I'm not going to assume anything about 1244 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:07,040 Speaker 2: your life outside of the bomb situation, and I'm praying 1245 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,919 Speaker 2: that that's taken care of. Itself. Oh, I can't even 1246 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,600 Speaker 2: believe I brought it up at the beginning, and I apologize, 1247 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:19,720 Speaker 2: but again, no one's expecting perfection. Have a terrific day. 1248 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,560 Speaker 2: Go do something. This is the end of the podcast. 1249 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:30,880 Speaker 2: Take care, goodbye. I said, No Gifts is an exactly 1250 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:35,439 Speaker 2: right production. It's produced and engineered by our dear friend 1251 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 2: Annalise Nelson and the theme song is by miracle worker 1252 01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,840 Speaker 2: Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at 1253 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 2: I said No Gifts. That's where you're going to see 1254 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,400 Speaker 2: pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. You have 1255 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 2: to see the gifts. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, 1256 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,519 Speaker 2: Ditcher or wherever you found me, and why not leave 1257 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,640 Speaker 2: a review while you're there. It's really the least you 1258 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 2: could do, considering everything I do for you. And if 1259 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,479 Speaker 2: you're interested in advertising on the show, go to miderl 1260 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,520 Speaker 2: dot com slash ads. 1261 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear, 1262 01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:25,439 Speaker 1: But you're a guess to my home. You gotta come 1263 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,360 Speaker 1: to me empty, and. 1264 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,720 Speaker 3: I said, no, guess. 1265 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:37,840 Speaker 1: Your presences presents enough that I already had too much stuff. 1266 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,519 Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey me?