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I 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.360 don't know what happens at this that's true, you don't. 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.720 It's not that bad. It's not as bad as you think. 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:11.120 If you got a second. You're familiar with the leader 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.200 of North Korea, right, Kim Jong doon? Okay, well, there 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.920 was his one time when his daddy, the former dear 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:20.520 leader Kim Jong ill, he kidnapped the biggest star and 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.960 the best director from South Korea. Then he brought them 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:26.000 to North Korea and he had them shoot a remake 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.400 of Godzilla. Yes, he wanted a North Korean Godzilla who 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:33.600 could crush the capitalist swine. Now you have to understand, 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.480 this is such a wild story. Are you ready for 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.480 the story of the making of a movie that feels 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.120 like it's story would make an even better movie than 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.560 the movie that was made? I am ready? All right? 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:08.080 This is Ridiculous Crime a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:15.960 heights and cons. It's always murder free and one ridiculous Elizabeth. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.760 I would like to talk with you today about your 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:23.320 Lord and savior, Godzilla. Have you been saved? Are you 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.760 a fan of Godzilla? No? Okay, well I'm gonna lay 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:30.960 some facts on your I mean, disappointment is an understatement, 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.440 but whatever, you know, let me just lay some facts 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.320 on you so you can appreciate the cult of the 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:40.080 thunder Lizard. All right, So Godzilla is an americanization of 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.480 a Japanese name, right, So in Japan his name is Godjira, 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.520 and Gojira is a portmanteau in Japanese. It's two Japanese 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:51.000 words braided together, and the words are goira for gorilla 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:56.640 and kujira for whale. So Godzilla's name really means guerrilla whale. 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:58.800 I thought you'd like that. Yeah, it's starting to win 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.400 me over right. I'm working and from not caring to 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:04.320 like caring a little bit the dial I'm a little curious. 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:08.719 What is that, Godzilla? Curious? You can't understand god have 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:12.279 you You've never seen a single movie I have. He 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.800 didn't enjoy it, he didn't stay with you, just didn't care. 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.480 When we're the other How can you say that? I 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.279 just didn't care when we are the other. You said 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.120 it twice, so nice, I said it all right. Well whatever, 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:28.000 So Godzilla my dog, not yours. Born of the sea whale, exactly, 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.800 my gerilla whale. What up dog? Awakened by the nuclear age, 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:36.200 he in a sense, is the revenge of nature against civilization. 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.279 Godzilla is the spirit of our times. Elizabeth, you know 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:41.279 I love that, I thought you. Yeah, you know I 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:46.240 love animals and creatures attacking us in the street, kidding 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.600 all around the world. Godzilla is loved by many people 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:53.040 who aren't you, and he is the monster you love 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.800 to hate. He stars in movies. He's also he has 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.760 ted TV shows, cartoon shows, comic books, mangas, graphic novels 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.640 literally very novels, video games, music videos, and of course 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:06.120 knockoff porn videos. So Godzilla, I'm not sure if you 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.320 know this. He's not young. He came to screens in 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.960 ninety four in Japan, and then in two years later 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:13.920 he comes to America and he starts to reckon Shop, 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.280 and the americanized version heavily edited, and they threw in 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.560 a Raymond burd just to really make the American audiences connect. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.920 It was called Godzilla, King of the Monsters exclamation point. 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:27.600 Now the American release, it becomes a big hit, and uh, 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.440 you know, it's one of those things that pretty much 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.760 created not just a genre, but a whole thing. You know, 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.960 it is a world to itself. And there's the mathra things, 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:42.720 all the monsters exactly. Okay, So in four Godzilla had 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.840 been off of screens for a decade. There have been 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.920 no movies. The seventies have been hard on Godzilla. They 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:49.920 got a little cheesy in the sixties, and by the 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.320 seventies people are like, what what is this mecha zillah? 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:56.080 I don't even care anymore? Right, So the people, good 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.880 people of Tohe Films, they decided in let's bring back Godzilla. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:04.280 They're like, yeah, like not only that, let's a race 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.160 all of those bad movies we've made. So they take 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.760 the fourteen films in between the first one and the 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.920 new one they plan and they go, none of those counted, 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.800 and so they say this will be the first sequel 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.920 to the original film. The rest all just went to 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.000 Mystery Science theater. Pretty much, Yeah, pretty much because Zilla. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.400 The people from Toe they realized we went we made 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.120 a mistake. We stopped letting Godzilla be the monster. We 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.880 made him the hero of fighting other monsters. I want 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.800 to go back to him being the one coming after us. Yeah, exactly. 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:38.400 So Godzilla comes back eighty meters tall, fifty thousand tons 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:43.920 of lizard monstrous, right, big bigg and so he's this 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.920 long daddy. The movie is called the Return of Godzilla. 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:52.360 In America, it's called Godzilla. You've seen this one. Raymond 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.680 Burr came back for the sequel, did wow. I don't 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.240 recall if I've seen it or not, but there's a 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.480 lot I don't remembers. It's very likely you maybe have 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.880 seen it. Is the Godzilla movie. A lot of Americans 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.120 have seen it, even if they don't know it. Right now, 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.320 I know you're probably thinking, Zarin, what is it that 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.600 we all love about Godzilla? Darren, what is it that 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.199 we all love about Godzilla? It's a great question, Elizabeth. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:16.120 I'll tell you now. Koji Hashimoto, he's the director of 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.000 the Return of Godzilla. He said, and I quote, the 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:21.480 existence of Godzilla is itself a dilemma. Godzilla is a 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:25.080 living conflict of evil and sadness. Yes, he is the 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:28.560 monster you feel sorry for. Well, well, I mean maybe 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:32.280 I do okay. Now, the writer of Godzilla remake, Tomo 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.920 Yuki Tanaka, he said, and I quote, Godzilla is the 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.800 son of the atomic bomb. He is a nightmare created 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.160 of the darkness of the human soul. He is the 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.920 sacred beast of the apocalypse. Right. Yeah, Now, when the 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:47.480 Godzilla reboot dropped, there was one cinephile out there, not you, 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.560 who saw Godzilla re emerged from the dark and deep 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.520 and was like, I need me one of those Godzillas, 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:57.280 Get me a Godzilla. And that man's name was Kim 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:01.000 Jong Ill, the next in future dear leader of North Korea. 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.599 At the time, he was the son of the founder 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.240 of dpr K. He was always the son of the founder, 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.240 but at the time he was not yet the leader. 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:11.080 He was still like, you know, junior dictator to be. 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.600 Now his father's running the show, so that means his 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:16.319 son had a lot of time on his hands. So 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.880 what he liked to do was watch movies, specially bootleg 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:23.280 Western movies. The dude loved movies. Like I'm talking, he 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:28.960 had fifteen thousand film library. Now remember these legals, no 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.199 American products or Western products are supposed to be in 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.280 the country. He's got fifteen thousand bootleg film movies for me, 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:38.160 but not for the exact So the ones he loved, 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.080 I'm not sure if I'll just tell you. He loved 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.400 action movies like Rambo, loved the Rambo movies. He also 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.880 loved James Bond films. He loved Friday the Thirteen, Big 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.360 Jason fan. Yeah. Also he loved any film that starred 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:54.000 Elizabeth Taylor. He went nuts for her lavender eyes. Right. 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.640 So now since dude that can have whatever job he wants, 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.400 he becomes the head of the North Korean film industry. Right, 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:05.080 so he has bustling exactly. He's got him cooking sixty 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:06.920 films a year, which is not bad. I mean, like 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:08.959 Disney only puts out like fifteen films in here now, 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.400 So they were cooking, right, it was like Golden Age 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:16.839 Hollywood era. Now anywhere, Oh, I'll lists off something for 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:18.839 you to go and here, get your pen out, you're ready. 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.960 So the films are all mostly blatant propaganda, right, the 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:25.040 original ones like so the ones like of his father's era, 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.880 they're just all propagandiam me, generally under communism is kind 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.359 of hard to make good films. I mean, yes, there's Tartakovsky. 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.040 They're good filmmakers, but generally under communism you get some 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.600 pretty questionable films. Right. Kim Jong Ill he knew this, 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.439 so he studies Western film. He writes the books so 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:43.880 that these communist movies can get better. His book is 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.559 called On the Art of Cinema. It was his attempt 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.040 to guide this film industry, right, So he gives him 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.080 the manifesto about how to make a good movie. Lars Montrier, 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.680 he was not, but he did at USC Films. Yeah, 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.240 it's like Dogma nine. And then also on the Artist 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.520 Cinema and then some Willie Golden books on screenwriting. That's 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.280 it right now. Mostly dude is just railing on the 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.600 Korean film scene in his book, right, he's just like 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.560 the angriest film history you've ever read. Now. His father, 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.200 as I told you, created propaganda films. You asked about them. 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.960 One of them was Sea of Blood. That was about 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.760 Korea's fight against Japan in the nineteen thirties, a real 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:21.280 tragic film. And I know, Elizabeth, you probably remember the 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.200 hit song from that that movie, My Heart Will Remain Faithful. 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:27.920 Oh yeah, but is my go to it karaoke? I 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.679 knew that that's what I thought. Okay, now, Kim Jong Il, 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.080 I've never done karaoke really, yeah, have to correct that. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.680 I'll even embarrass myself to make sure you do it now, 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.719 Kim Jong Il. He uh. He praised his father's era 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.160 of films. He wrote in his book quote, films should 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.280 contain musical masterpieces like these, the fusion of noble ideas 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.600 and burning passion. Right. He's like very much about the 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.280 grand themes. But he's a different man than his father. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.280 So when he gets his hands on the North Korean 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.720 film industry, he wants to create great art. So and 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.520 also the communist propaganda the same thing, same goals, right, 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:01.720 But he know this wouldn't be easy, so he decided, 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:03.000 you know what I need to do. I need to 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:06.000 kidnap the most talented director in South Korea so I 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:09.679 can make great art. I won't force him, so this 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:13.480 poor unfortunate soul. His name was Shin Song oc Shin Song. 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.640 He had a production company and he named after himself. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.200 It was called Shin Films, and he made a ton 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.920 of films and they were mostly beloved. Some were challenging, 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.840 but he mostly made crowd pleasers. He was like kind 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:25.680 of like a James Cameron if you will right now. 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.240 One of his big films is called The Eunuch. Now, 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:32.120 can you guess what The Eunuch is about? Elizabeth? Yes, 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.520 I'm having no testicles, but no, maybe it's beyond that. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:38.560 It's it's about unis and concubines. It's doubling up. Yeah, 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:40.800 there's two of them. They fall in love a concubine 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.079 me to Unich. In the court. They decide, oh, it 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.080 would be great if we could consummate our love affair. 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.120 Oh but you have no junk. And he's like, no, no, baby, 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.199 don't worry. It still works. And she's like really, And 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.440 they're about to consummate their love affair, and then tragic 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:55.040 events happen and they don't and people die spoil Oh sorry, 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.200 I totally I didn't mean to blow that for you anyway. 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:07.880 For me, Shin's movies are mostly these for you too, Okay, 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.280 let me let me get back together. Okay, So the 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.360 Shin's movie they're mostly there's star women, and they're they're 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:19.040 considered like provocative. At this time, there's Chinese movies, Japanese 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.160 movies in Korea, and the Korea's movies and creas movies 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.160 are often very conservative careers culture at the times conservative. 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:28.120 It's under a dictatorship, so he's challenging societal roles for women. 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.600 He's very much an avant garde artist but still making 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:34.560 popular films. And he's also really good like director where 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.160 he's his films are like a master class for young actors. Right. 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.120 So the guys just killing it in the rolls around 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.480 the Korean dictatorships, like you know what, Shin, you need 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.160 to close up shops, and there's nothing he can do 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.880 about it. So boom, he's out of business and he's like, oh, 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.680 this sucks, and uh, you know, this is the moment 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.960 Kim Jong ill was waiting for. He's like rubbing his 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.400 hands together all sinister. Now the filmmaker made suddenly be 0:14:56.440 --> 0:15:00.520 amenable to this second chance to make great art. Kim 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.160 Jong il knows he's gonna need the right enticements if 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.040 he wants to get Shin to come over to North 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.360 Korea and jump the d MZ. So he's like, what 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.680 can I do? He's like, well, is he great art? 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.200 That may not be enough? I know it. I'm I've 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:13.600 got it. I know what I need to do. And 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:18.160 he's like, I'll kidnap his wife. It's like this business 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:23.200 always to the relationship of trust and need, so joy 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.640 you and He. That was his wife's name. She was 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.520 the biggest, most respected actress in South Korea and she's 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.840 married to the hottest director. They were this ultra cool couple. 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.240 They were like the jay Z and Beyonce of seventies Korea. Right. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.040 They met on a film set. And there's a documentary 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.000 about this whole story. It's called The Lovers in the 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.040 Despot and I recommend it great your coverage if you 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:44.760 want to hear more about this story. In the film 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.720 show You and He. She remembers meeting her future husband 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.080 and she's like, I was asked to star in this film. 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.640 Then we met and had black bean noodles. Shin wasn't 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.120 only handsome, he was also stylish. Everyone thought he was 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:00.120 cool and he was a brilliant filmmaker. He said that 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.640 we should make films together forever, and that's how it 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:07.480 all began. Now, storybook romance. That's awesome, right, but be 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.440 careful what you wish for because there may be some 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:13.480 North Korean dictator listening, and suddenly you're making movies together forever. 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:17.480 In North Korea, which is pretty much what happened. Okay, 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.080 we'll take a little break here and we'll get back 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.520 to the North Korean Godzilla and I'm going to blow 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:47.200 your mind, all right, Elizabeth Zaren, I like saying it 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:52.680 in an accusatory way today, Saren. Yes, Elizabeth, I was 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:54.880 telling you about the super couple, the director of My man, 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:58.160 Shin and his wife the star You and he. Now 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.520 they sounds super groovy, right they were. Well, I'll show 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:02.880 you pictures of them and you can put them up 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.760 and be like, oh man, look at these two that 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:07.960 I'm going to sound Yeah, just like that. It feel 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:09.639 like when you're looking at pictures of Elliott, are you 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.040 going to hit me in the head? I got a 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.760 head wound now and I'm looking at the pictures. So Shin, 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.800 he's this dude is a wilful soul, right, You and he? 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.000 She called him the wild Horse, which I think means 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:26.400 like we would call him the mustang man mustand yeah, 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.440 total cowboy, little band's man in terms of like going 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.359 his own way, right, the super couple, they're a match 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.680 set though, because you and he's she's just as willful 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.240 as Shin, right, maybe even more so in some ways, 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.720 because well, I'll get into that later. But she goes 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:43.240 on to secretly record Kim Jong Ill by hiding a 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.040 recorder in her purse. Getting caught would cost her, possibly 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:51.000 her head and seven generations of her family, right, exactly 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.639 the circles that emanate with blood. No, you have to 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.800 understand thanks to this, you and he, Elizabeth, you know 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:00.720 that I have now heard Kim Jong Ill's voice. You. Yes, 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.879 I she recorded him, and before she recorded him, no 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.120 Westerner had heard Kim Jong ULL's voice. Now I am 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:10.200 in rare air. Yeah, and if you watch the documentary, 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.760 you two can be in that same rare air. But 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:15.760 for you, Elizabeth, I thought, I just read a couple 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.160 of Kim Jong ules choice quotes from the secret tape 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.199 that you and he recorded. You get a sense of 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.720 the man's gonna sound like him. Well, this is gonna 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.040 be Kim Jong Lem excited. Why do all of our 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:30.360 films have the same ideological plots? There's nothing no about them? 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.679 I mean, like, why are there so many crying scenes? 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.880 All of her films have crying scenes. This isn't a funeral, 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:39.520 is it? Okay? Elizabeth? No, wait a minute, you said 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.480 the reason I gave the Dear Leader a comical Chicago accent, 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:44.880 It's because I don't want to tread on any racist 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.680 ground here by a mistake. Right, So my imitation is 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:49.159 gonna be you know, I'm gonna stay away from me 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.360 caricatures or stereotypes, and I'm gonna go with those pure 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.439 Chicago Okay, Now, if you got a second, I got 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:58.359 another one for you now, he said on tape, and 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.280 I quote, we don't have any films they can get 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:03.840 into film festivals. But I mean, like in South Korea, 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:08.080 they have better technology. They are like college students. We 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:11.640 are just in nursery school. People here are so close minded. 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.639 I wonder why, yes, the irony could choke Godzilla. I 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.959 mean it's just like, come on, Mane, You're the reason 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:21.280 they're so close. Mind you and your daddy. I got 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:23.600 one more for you. You're ready. This is uh Kim 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:27.760 Jong Ill talking about South Korea's films versus the North 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.960 Koreas films. Alright, I've looked at South Korea's films. I've 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:33.959 asked my advisor who's the best director in the South. 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.400 He said that his name is Shin. I said, how 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:39.879 can we persuade him to come here. How could I 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:43.959 lure this director Shin? So now that's the plot. He's 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.520 like to get this man into North Korea. So I 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:48.400 already told you the answer to this is he's gonna 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.639 kidnap you and he. That's his plan. That's how he's 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:52.600 gonna get him over and force to come and make 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:57.159 great art Godzilla movies. Now his plan, perfect plan, grabbed 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.359 the wife. Here's how it plays out. You're ready, you 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.879 and he. She's an actress, so you know she has 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:04.760 to go and talk to producers. She gotta go and 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.119 do business a film. She's gotta have lunches, all that 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.560 kind of right. Now, she gets flown over to Hong 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:11.919 Kong to meet with this producer about a potential role 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.600 in an upcoming Hong Kong movie. And Hong Kong guys 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.359 a great film community, so she's like stoked. She's like, 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:18.760 oh yeah, I'm gonna go work with some you know, 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.560 Jackie Chance Production company or whatever. Right, she stoked. She 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:23.880 gets met at the airport by an executive she knows 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.560 from the Hong Kong branch of her ex husband Shin's 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.160 film company, because at this point they are divorced. Right, 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.359 So She's like always from Shin's films. So with this dude, 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:35.120 is this woman she doesn't know, the woman she doesn't know, 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:37.680 she's told as a shopping guide for her while she's 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.640 in Hong Kong. She's like, how thoughtful. That's dope. Now 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:43.119 I'll let you and he tell the story. Alright ready, 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:46.639 she says there was no reason to be suspicious. She 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:49.919 came to the hotel with her daughter and we wandered around. 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:52.880 She suggested we visit a summer house by the seaside. 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:55.440 It was owned by the guy who wanted to start 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:59.119 a business relationship. I was playing with her daughter and 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:02.600 waiting for the to show up, and then she called out, 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:06.800 come here quickly. There was a speedboat with three or 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.800 four strong men. All of a sudden, a guy grabbed 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:11.840 me by the arms. Before I knew it, I was 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:15.239 on board. So that's how she gets grabbed, right. I 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.280 love that there was a speedboat. Yes, yes, just like 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:22.960 that the mid eighties. So yeah, it's Miami Vice era. Okay, 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:24.640 so it makes sense that of course there's a speed 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.240 you gotta have a speedboat. Everybody's like, no, I'm Crockett 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.960 and tubs my way over there now, you and he 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:32.360 She gets further into the story and she says, when 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:34.919 I woke up, I was in the captain's cabin on 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:38.240 a big cargo ship. I thought they are going to 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.320 kill me. There was a doctor and he had a 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:43.440 lot of equipment and he gave me injections. This went 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.280 on for about eight days, me waking and then collapsing 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:49.200 with no food. Now, when she arrives in North Korea 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:51.760 and she's like, oh, you know, just completely out of sorts. 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:55.080 It sounds terrifying totally right now. When she gets there though, 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.280 there's this entourage of people up there to meet her 0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:59.480 at the wharf, and then she hears a deep voice 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:02.400 call out her, Hey, thanks for coming to make Kim 0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:04.720