1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of I Heart Radio. Yo, 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Dutton, what you doing girl, Zarin Burnett, I got 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: a question for you. Yes, you know what's ridiculous? Yeah? 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: I do. Actually come on now all right listen. You 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: like football, right, like you're a football guy, producer, Dave's 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: a football guy. Yeah. Um, you like how when they 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: hit their heads and they get the brain damage. That's 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: like your favorite part, right you non football fans? Um, 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: you know soccer people get concussions and brain damage. Dude, 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: No one talks about this, the CTE damage of soccer. 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, yeah, well okay, so good point. Um, 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: here's here's the thing. Like when you know, you think 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: about football, and especially we're like Super Bowl time and um, 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: it's all like not just the football that's being played, 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: but the football and your tummy cheese, well yeah, all 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: the snacks. Right, so you've got like, um, nachos like 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: you said, and chili and beer and that's ridiculous. No, 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: you know where I'm going. Where are you going? Okay, 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: So there's this thing that pairs well, as they said, 20 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: with recliners, gaming and late night snack attacks. And it 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: was we got so many of like sent to us, 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: of these things sent to us, not physically, but we 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: got a lot of messages about this from so many 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: brew dudes and all working against me. Go on, Okay, 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: So there's this thing and it's called Hormel Chili Chili 26 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: Cheese Brew. It's beer, Hormel Chili Cheese Brew. Yeah, the 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: website says, Yes, this madness is real. 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Oh damn, I probably 46 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: missed it. Then, four packs are available to purchase Hormel 47 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: Chili cheesebrew dot com for while supplies last. The price 48 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: includes shipping and handling Hormel Chili Cheese brew wile ship 49 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: in time for fans to enjoy when watching the Super 50 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: Bowl on February. Fans can whip up a batch of 51 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: Hormels Chili Cheese Dip by combining Hormel chili no beans 52 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: with a one pound package of pasteurized cheese cut into 53 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: half inch cubes. Mixed together the ingredients in a microwave 54 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: safe bowl and micro wave on high for four and 55 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: a half to five minutes until hot and cheese is melt, 56 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: served with corn chips if desired. Why would they do that? 57 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: I win the ridiculousness, dude, that is more than ridiculous. 58 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: That's just hate chili cheese. Are you going to do 59 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: that to a super Bowl party? Because could you meague 60 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: if you showed up a super Bowl party and they 61 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: were serving the there like, I wouldn't be surprised. I 62 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: don't know what happens at this that's true, you don't. 63 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: It's not that bad. It's not as bad as you think. 64 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: If you got a second. You're familiar with the leader 65 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: of North Korea, right, Kim Jong doon? Okay, well, there 66 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: was his one time when his daddy, the former dear 67 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: leader Kim Jong ill, he kidnapped the biggest star and 68 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: the best director from South Korea. Then he brought them 69 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: to North Korea and he had them shoot a remake 70 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: of Godzilla. Yes, he wanted a North Korean Godzilla who 71 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: could crush the capitalist swine. Now you have to understand, 72 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: this is such a wild story. Are you ready for 73 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: the story of the making of a movie that feels 74 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: like it's story would make an even better movie than 75 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: the movie that was made? I am ready? All right? 76 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: This is Ridiculous Crime a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, 77 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: heights and cons. It's always murder free and one ridiculous Elizabeth. 78 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: I would like to talk with you today about your 79 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: Lord and savior, Godzilla. Have you been saved? Are you 80 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: a fan of Godzilla? No? Okay, well I'm gonna lay 81 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: some facts on your I mean, disappointment is an understatement, 82 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: but whatever, you know, let me just lay some facts 83 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: on you so you can appreciate the cult of the 84 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: thunder Lizard. All right, So Godzilla is an americanization of 85 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: a Japanese name, right, So in Japan his name is Godjira, 86 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: and Gojira is a portmanteau in Japanese. It's two Japanese 87 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: words braided together, and the words are goira for gorilla 88 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: and kujira for whale. So Godzilla's name really means guerrilla whale. 89 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: I thought you'd like that. Yeah, it's starting to win 90 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: me over right. I'm working and from not caring to 91 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: like caring a little bit the dial I'm a little curious. 92 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: What is that, Godzilla? Curious? You can't understand god have 93 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: you You've never seen a single movie I have. He 94 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: didn't enjoy it, he didn't stay with you, just didn't care. 95 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: When we're the other How can you say that? I 96 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: just didn't care when we are the other. You said 97 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: it twice, so nice, I said it all right. Well whatever, 98 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: So Godzilla my dog, not yours. Born of the sea whale, exactly, 99 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: my gerilla whale. What up dog? Awakened by the nuclear age, 100 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: he in a sense, is the revenge of nature against civilization. 101 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: Godzilla is the spirit of our times. Elizabeth, you know 102 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: I love that, I thought you. Yeah, you know I 103 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: love animals and creatures attacking us in the street, kidding 104 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: all around the world. Godzilla is loved by many people 105 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: who aren't you, and he is the monster you love 106 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: to hate. He stars in movies. He's also he has 107 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: ted TV shows, cartoon shows, comic books, mangas, graphic novels 108 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: literally very novels, video games, music videos, and of course 109 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: knockoff porn videos. So Godzilla, I'm not sure if you 110 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: know this. He's not young. He came to screens in 111 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: ninety four in Japan, and then in two years later 112 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: he comes to America and he starts to reckon Shop, 113 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: and the americanized version heavily edited, and they threw in 114 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: a Raymond burd just to really make the American audiences connect. 115 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: It was called Godzilla, King of the Monsters exclamation point. 116 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: Now the American release, it becomes a big hit, and uh, 117 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those things that pretty much 118 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: created not just a genre, but a whole thing. You know, 119 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: it is a world to itself. And there's the mathra things, 120 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: all the monsters exactly. Okay, So in four Godzilla had 121 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: been off of screens for a decade. There have been 122 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: no movies. The seventies have been hard on Godzilla. They 123 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: got a little cheesy in the sixties, and by the 124 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: seventies people are like, what what is this mecha zillah? 125 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't even care anymore? Right, So the people, good 126 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: people of Tohe Films, they decided in let's bring back Godzilla. 127 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, like not only that, let's a race 128 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: all of those bad movies we've made. So they take 129 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: the fourteen films in between the first one and the 130 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: new one they plan and they go, none of those counted, 131 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: and so they say this will be the first sequel 132 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: to the original film. The rest all just went to 133 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: Mystery Science theater. Pretty much, Yeah, pretty much because Zilla. 134 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: The people from Toe they realized we went we made 135 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: a mistake. We stopped letting Godzilla be the monster. We 136 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: made him the hero of fighting other monsters. I want 137 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: to go back to him being the one coming after us. Yeah, exactly. 138 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: So Godzilla comes back eighty meters tall, fifty thousand tons 139 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: of lizard monstrous, right, big bigg and so he's this 140 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: long daddy. The movie is called the Return of Godzilla. 141 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: In America, it's called Godzilla. You've seen this one. Raymond 142 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: Burr came back for the sequel, did wow. I don't 143 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: recall if I've seen it or not, but there's a 144 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: lot I don't remembers. It's very likely you maybe have 145 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: seen it. Is the Godzilla movie. A lot of Americans 146 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: have seen it, even if they don't know it. Right now, 147 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: I know you're probably thinking, Zarin, what is it that 148 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: we all love about Godzilla? Darren, what is it that 149 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: we all love about Godzilla? It's a great question, Elizabeth. 150 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you now. Koji Hashimoto, he's the director of 151 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: the Return of Godzilla. He said, and I quote, the 152 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: existence of Godzilla is itself a dilemma. Godzilla is a 153 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: living conflict of evil and sadness. Yes, he is the 154 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: monster you feel sorry for. Well, well, I mean maybe 155 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: I do okay. Now, the writer of Godzilla remake, Tomo 156 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: Yuki Tanaka, he said, and I quote, Godzilla is the 157 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: son of the atomic bomb. He is a nightmare created 158 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: of the darkness of the human soul. He is the 159 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: sacred beast of the apocalypse. Right. Yeah, Now, when the 160 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: Godzilla reboot dropped, there was one cinephile out there, not you, 161 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: who saw Godzilla re emerged from the dark and deep 162 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: and was like, I need me one of those Godzillas, 163 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: Get me a Godzilla. And that man's name was Kim 164 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: Jong Ill, the next in future dear leader of North Korea. 165 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 1: At the time, he was the son of the founder 166 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: of dpr K. He was always the son of the founder, 167 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: but at the time he was not yet the leader. 168 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: He was still like, you know, junior dictator to be. 169 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: Now his father's running the show, so that means his 170 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: son had a lot of time on his hands. So 171 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: what he liked to do was watch movies, specially bootleg 172 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: Western movies. The dude loved movies. Like I'm talking, he 173 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: had fifteen thousand film library. Now remember these legals, no 174 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: American products or Western products are supposed to be in 175 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: the country. He's got fifteen thousand bootleg film movies for me, 176 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: but not for the exact So the ones he loved, 177 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'll just tell you. He loved 178 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: action movies like Rambo, loved the Rambo movies. He also 179 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: loved James Bond films. He loved Friday the Thirteen, Big 180 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: Jason fan. Yeah. Also he loved any film that starred 181 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Taylor. He went nuts for her lavender eyes. Right. 182 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: So now since dude that can have whatever job he wants, 183 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: he becomes the head of the North Korean film industry. Right, 184 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: so he has bustling exactly. He's got him cooking sixty 185 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: films a year, which is not bad. I mean, like 186 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: Disney only puts out like fifteen films in here now, 187 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: So they were cooking, right, it was like Golden Age 188 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: Hollywood era. Now anywhere, Oh, I'll lists off something for 189 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: you to go and here, get your pen out, you're ready. 190 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: So the films are all mostly blatant propaganda, right, the 191 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: original ones like so the ones like of his father's era, 192 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: they're just all propagandiam me, generally under communism is kind 193 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,359 Speaker 1: of hard to make good films. I mean, yes, there's Tartakovsky. 194 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: They're good filmmakers, but generally under communism you get some 195 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: pretty questionable films. Right. Kim Jong Ill he knew this, 196 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: so he studies Western film. He writes the books so 197 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: that these communist movies can get better. His book is 198 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: called On the Art of Cinema. It was his attempt 199 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: to guide this film industry, right, So he gives him 200 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: the manifesto about how to make a good movie. Lars Montrier, 201 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: he was not, but he did at USC Films. Yeah, 202 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: it's like Dogma nine. And then also on the Artist 203 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: Cinema and then some Willie Golden books on screenwriting. That's 204 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: it right now. Mostly dude is just railing on the 205 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: Korean film scene in his book, right, he's just like 206 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: the angriest film history you've ever read. Now. His father, 207 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: as I told you, created propaganda films. You asked about them. 208 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: One of them was Sea of Blood. That was about 209 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: Korea's fight against Japan in the nineteen thirties, a real 210 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: tragic film. And I know, Elizabeth, you probably remember the 211 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: hit song from that that movie, My Heart Will Remain Faithful. 212 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but is my go to it karaoke? I 213 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: knew that that's what I thought. Okay, now, Kim Jong Il, 214 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: I've never done karaoke really, yeah, have to correct that. 215 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: I'll even embarrass myself to make sure you do it now, 216 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: Kim Jong Il. He uh. He praised his father's era 217 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: of films. He wrote in his book quote, films should 218 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: contain musical masterpieces like these, the fusion of noble ideas 219 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: and burning passion. Right. He's like very much about the 220 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: grand themes. But he's a different man than his father. 221 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: So when he gets his hands on the North Korean 222 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: film industry, he wants to create great art. So and 223 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: also the communist propaganda the same thing, same goals, right, 224 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: But he know this wouldn't be easy, so he decided, 225 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: you know what I need to do. I need to 226 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: kidnap the most talented director in South Korea so I 227 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: can make great art. I won't force him, so this 228 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: poor unfortunate soul. His name was Shin Song oc Shin Song. 229 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: He had a production company and he named after himself. 230 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: It was called Shin Films, and he made a ton 231 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: of films and they were mostly beloved. Some were challenging, 232 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: but he mostly made crowd pleasers. He was like kind 233 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: of like a James Cameron if you will right now. 234 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: One of his big films is called The Eunuch. Now, 235 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: can you guess what The Eunuch is about? Elizabeth? Yes, 236 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm having no testicles, but no, maybe it's beyond that. 237 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: It's it's about unis and concubines. It's doubling up. Yeah, 238 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: there's two of them. They fall in love a concubine 239 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: me to Unich. In the court. They decide, oh, it 240 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: would be great if we could consummate our love affair. 241 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: Oh but you have no junk. And he's like, no, no, baby, 242 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: don't worry. It still works. And she's like really, And 243 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: they're about to consummate their love affair, and then tragic 244 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: events happen and they don't and people die spoil Oh sorry, 245 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: I totally I didn't mean to blow that for you anyway. 246 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: For me, Shin's movies are mostly these for you too, Okay, 247 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: let me let me get back together. Okay, So the 248 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: Shin's movie they're mostly there's star women, and they're they're 249 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: considered like provocative. At this time, there's Chinese movies, Japanese 250 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: movies in Korea, and the Korea's movies and creas movies 251 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: are often very conservative careers culture at the times conservative. 252 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: It's under a dictatorship, so he's challenging societal roles for women. 253 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: He's very much an avant garde artist but still making 254 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: popular films. And he's also really good like director where 255 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: he's his films are like a master class for young actors. Right. 256 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: So the guys just killing it in the rolls around 257 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: the Korean dictatorships, like you know what, Shin, you need 258 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: to close up shops, and there's nothing he can do 259 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: about it. So boom, he's out of business and he's like, oh, 260 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: this sucks, and uh, you know, this is the moment 261 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: Kim Jong ill was waiting for. He's like rubbing his 262 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: hands together all sinister. Now the filmmaker made suddenly be 263 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: amenable to this second chance to make great art. Kim 264 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: Jong il knows he's gonna need the right enticements if 265 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: he wants to get Shin to come over to North 266 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: Korea and jump the d MZ. So he's like, what 267 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: can I do? He's like, well, is he great art? 268 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: That may not be enough? I know it. I'm I've 269 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: got it. I know what I need to do. And 270 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: he's like, I'll kidnap his wife. It's like this business 271 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: always to the relationship of trust and need, so joy 272 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: you and He. That was his wife's name. She was 273 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: the biggest, most respected actress in South Korea and she's 274 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: married to the hottest director. They were this ultra cool couple. 275 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: They were like the jay Z and Beyonce of seventies Korea. Right. 276 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: They met on a film set. And there's a documentary 277 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: about this whole story. It's called The Lovers in the 278 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: Despot and I recommend it great your coverage if you 279 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: want to hear more about this story. In the film 280 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: show You and He. She remembers meeting her future husband 281 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: and she's like, I was asked to star in this film. 282 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: Then we met and had black bean noodles. Shin wasn't 283 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: only handsome, he was also stylish. Everyone thought he was 284 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: cool and he was a brilliant filmmaker. He said that 285 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: we should make films together forever, and that's how it 286 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: all began. Now, storybook romance. That's awesome, right, but be 287 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: careful what you wish for because there may be some 288 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: North Korean dictator listening, and suddenly you're making movies together forever. 289 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: In North Korea, which is pretty much what happened. Okay, 290 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: we'll take a little break here and we'll get back 291 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: to the North Korean Godzilla and I'm going to blow 292 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: your mind, all right, Elizabeth Zaren, I like saying it 293 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: in an accusatory way today, Saren. Yes, Elizabeth, I was 294 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: telling you about the super couple, the director of My man, 295 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: Shin and his wife the star You and he. Now 296 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: they sounds super groovy, right they were. Well, I'll show 297 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: you pictures of them and you can put them up 298 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: and be like, oh man, look at these two that 299 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to sound Yeah, just like that. It feel 300 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: like when you're looking at pictures of Elliott, are you 301 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: going to hit me in the head? I got a 302 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: head wound now and I'm looking at the pictures. So Shin, 303 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: he's this dude is a wilful soul, right, You and he? 304 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: She called him the wild Horse, which I think means 305 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: like we would call him the mustang man mustand yeah, 306 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: total cowboy, little band's man in terms of like going 307 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: his own way, right, the super couple, they're a match 308 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: set though, because you and he's she's just as willful 309 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: as Shin, right, maybe even more so in some ways, 310 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: because well, I'll get into that later. But she goes 311 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: on to secretly record Kim Jong Ill by hiding a 312 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: recorder in her purse. Getting caught would cost her, possibly 313 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: her head and seven generations of her family, right, exactly 314 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: the circles that emanate with blood. No, you have to 315 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: understand thanks to this, you and he, Elizabeth, you know 316 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: that I have now heard Kim Jong Ill's voice. You. Yes, 317 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: I she recorded him, and before she recorded him, no 318 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: Westerner had heard Kim Jong ULL's voice. Now I am 319 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: in rare air. Yeah, and if you watch the documentary, 320 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: you two can be in that same rare air. But 321 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: for you, Elizabeth, I thought, I just read a couple 322 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: of Kim Jong ules choice quotes from the secret tape 323 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: that you and he recorded. You get a sense of 324 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: the man's gonna sound like him. Well, this is gonna 325 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: be Kim Jong Lem excited. Why do all of our 326 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: films have the same ideological plots? There's nothing no about them? 327 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: I mean, like, why are there so many crying scenes? 328 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: All of her films have crying scenes. This isn't a funeral, 329 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: is it? Okay? Elizabeth? No, wait a minute, you said 330 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: the reason I gave the Dear Leader a comical Chicago accent, 331 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: It's because I don't want to tread on any racist 332 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: ground here by a mistake. Right, So my imitation is 333 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: gonna be you know, I'm gonna stay away from me 334 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: caricatures or stereotypes, and I'm gonna go with those pure 335 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: Chicago Okay, Now, if you got a second, I got 336 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: another one for you now, he said on tape, and 337 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: I quote, we don't have any films they can get 338 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: into film festivals. But I mean, like in South Korea, 339 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: they have better technology. They are like college students. We 340 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: are just in nursery school. People here are so close minded. 341 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: I wonder why, yes, the irony could choke Godzilla. I 342 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: mean it's just like, come on, Mane, You're the reason 343 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: they're so close. Mind you and your daddy. I got 344 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: one more for you. You're ready. This is uh Kim 345 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: Jong Ill talking about South Korea's films versus the North 346 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: Koreas films. Alright, I've looked at South Korea's films. I've 347 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 1: asked my advisor who's the best director in the South. 348 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: He said that his name is Shin. I said, how 349 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: can we persuade him to come here. How could I 350 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: lure this director Shin? So now that's the plot. He's 351 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: like to get this man into North Korea. So I 352 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: already told you the answer to this is he's gonna 353 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: kidnap you and he. That's his plan. That's how he's 354 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: gonna get him over and force to come and make 355 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: great art Godzilla movies. Now his plan, perfect plan, grabbed 356 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: the wife. Here's how it plays out. You're ready, you 357 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: and he. She's an actress, so you know she has 358 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: to go and talk to producers. She gotta go and 359 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: do business a film. She's gotta have lunches, all that 360 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: kind of right. Now, she gets flown over to Hong 361 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: Kong to meet with this producer about a potential role 362 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: in an upcoming Hong Kong movie. And Hong Kong guys 363 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: a great film community, so she's like stoked. She's like, 364 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm gonna go work with some you know, 365 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: Jackie Chance Production company or whatever. Right, she stoked. She 366 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: gets met at the airport by an executive she knows 367 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: from the Hong Kong branch of her ex husband Shin's 368 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: film company, because at this point they are divorced. Right, 369 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: So She's like always from Shin's films. So with this dude, 370 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: is this woman she doesn't know, the woman she doesn't know, 371 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: she's told as a shopping guide for her while she's 372 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: in Hong Kong. She's like, how thoughtful. That's dope. Now 373 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: I'll let you and he tell the story. Alright ready, 374 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: she says there was no reason to be suspicious. She 375 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: came to the hotel with her daughter and we wandered around. 376 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: She suggested we visit a summer house by the seaside. 377 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: It was owned by the guy who wanted to start 378 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: a business relationship. I was playing with her daughter and 379 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: waiting for the to show up, and then she called out, 380 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: come here quickly. There was a speedboat with three or 381 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: four strong men. All of a sudden, a guy grabbed 382 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: me by the arms. Before I knew it, I was 383 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,239 Speaker 1: on board. So that's how she gets grabbed, right. I 384 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: love that there was a speedboat. Yes, yes, just like 385 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: that the mid eighties. So yeah, it's Miami Vice era. Okay, 386 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: so it makes sense that of course there's a speed 387 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: you gotta have a speedboat. Everybody's like, no, I'm Crockett 388 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: and tubs my way over there now, you and he 389 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: She gets further into the story and she says, when 390 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: I woke up, I was in the captain's cabin on 391 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: a big cargo ship. I thought they are going to 392 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: kill me. There was a doctor and he had a 393 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: lot of equipment and he gave me injections. This went 394 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: on for about eight days, me waking and then collapsing 395 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: with no food. Now, when she arrives in North Korea 396 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: and she's like, oh, you know, just completely out of sorts. 397 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: It sounds terrifying totally right now. When she gets there though, 398 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: there's this entourage of people up there to meet her 399 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: at the wharf, and then she hears a deep voice 400 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: call out her, Hey, thanks for coming to make Kim 401 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: Jong ill. Alright, So he comes over to her and 402 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: Kim Jong Hill. He acts just like he'd arrived on 403 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: a movie set and she's there and he's the director 404 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, well, we're gonna have a lot 405 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: of fun on this account. And she's like, what are 406 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: you just terrified? Right? She's been like repeatedly drugged, hasn't eaten, 407 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: like she didn't know where she was going. She would 408 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: just come to doesn't know if she's gonna be killed, 409 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: and then she's got this clown and then that the 410 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: first thing that she sees that makes sense is Kim 411 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: Jong Ill coming at her. Yeah, I'd be like him. 412 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: I having a hallucination. She says that she didn't know 413 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: if she was a gift for him or his father. 414 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: Just imagine that, dear right. Yeah. Meanwhile, her ex husband 415 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: Shin he discovers you and he is missing from Hong Kong, 416 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: and he goes wild with worry. He's like, he immediately 417 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: fears the worst. He's faced with all the ideas of 418 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: like what could go wrong, and he immediately thinks north Korea. 419 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: It's got to be North Korea. And he's fearing, by 420 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: the way, for both his wife and himself because if 421 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: they grabbed his wife, he's like, oh, I could be next, right, 422 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: So he traveled to Hong Kong to go find his 423 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: missing wife, and while he's there he asked the police. 424 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, I'm gonna need protection because my wife 425 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: got grabbed. They're like, oh, of course, of course. He's like, 426 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to get snatched off the street like 427 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: my wife, Like of course, what we got you? Like 428 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: this is under British protectorate at the time. So there's 429 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: British investigators trying to figure this all out, and like 430 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: we were going to take care of the foreign nationals 431 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: and so it's like a whole thing. Right now, Shin 432 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: has little to go on to find his wife, right 433 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: and he's like, he's got little help other than the 434 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 1: British authorities. But he does have one colleague in the city, 435 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: an old friend and a former business partner, and this 436 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: man offers him help to go find you and he 437 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: and he's like, oh cool. But then come to find 438 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: out his old friend and business partner was a North 439 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: Korean spy. Chin never sees coming. So here's how Shin 440 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: tells the story. There was a secret agent in Hong Kong. 441 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: He was my colleague, so there was no reason to 442 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: be suspicious, and he took me to Repulse Bay on 443 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: Hong Kong Island. The car stopped and three or four 444 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: people got in. Okay, wait, I have to pause the 445 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: story for a second. I like them, both of these stories. 446 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: It's always three or four people, Like they're just like hey, 447 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: for both of them, they're just like, you know, sm 448 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: it's good for supremely low numbers. It like like it 449 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: was three ye stopped counting after three. I don't know 450 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: what are one person? What does it matter? We are, 451 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: we are we setting a table here. Why do I 452 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: have to know how many people are in the car? 453 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: But you know, he's like, look, you know me people 454 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: was enough people exactly, So every time he goes, he's 455 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: like three or four people. Anyway. He also reminds me 456 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: of the David Sedaris story of like the sixty eight 457 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: black Men. Yeah, you know this story. So he's like, 458 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: just for anyone who doesn't. David Sai Darris is driving 459 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: around Europe and he's talking to people, trying to get 460 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: to know the areas, and it's a big thing to do. 461 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: Was always asking him what's the local Christmas traditions? And 462 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: in the Netherlands, he gets there and they start telling 463 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: him that St. Nick shows up, and every time he 464 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: shows up, it's always a six eight black men. And 465 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: he keeps asking people and he can never get an 466 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: exact number. At one point, I have a code here 467 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: from him, he says, I asked several touch people to 468 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: narrow it down, but none of them could give me 469 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 1: an exact number. It was always six to eight, which 470 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: seems strange. Things they've had hundreds of years to get 471 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: a decent count. So anyway, that's what I kept picturing 472 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: when I'm reading, three to four people get in the car. 473 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: Three to four people were in the boat. Okay, so 474 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: back to your abductions. Okay, So the director is in 475 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: the car with his former colleague when three or four 476 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: people get in. They were wearing long wigs. He says, 477 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: they put a bag over my head. And I gotta 478 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: stop again because I'm sorry, but they're wearing wigs. They 479 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: put a bag over his head. Does seem incongruous to me. 480 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: It's like, make up your minds. Do you want to 481 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: be disguised or you're gonna like just put a bag 482 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: over some of the wearing a bag, they put a 483 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: wing on him, just exactly like okay, like you're driving 484 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: around Hong Kong with a man with a bag on 485 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: his head. What are the wigs for, like or the Beatles? 486 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: It's okay, I mean I can see they probably like 487 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: put the bag on his head and then shove them 488 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: down into the footwell and then they're wearing wigs and 489 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: they're like, I don't know, these like three to four 490 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: guys with really beautiful long tresses flowing in the open 491 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: air windows. Yes, I don't know what it doesn't look 492 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: like me. You're probably right if exactly that. So at 493 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: this point, I'll pick back up the abduction. So he 494 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: since says they were wearing long wigs. They put a 495 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: bag over my head and made me in halee chloroform. 496 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: So poom, he's out. Now he's captured too. Boom, Just 497 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: like that, the North Korean film industry just got a 498 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: whole lot more talents. So meanwhile, back in South Korea, 499 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: people start to assume terrible things. And I don't mean 500 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: terrible things like oh they're dead. I mean like terrible 501 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: things like I don't know about this abduction. First the 502 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: wife gets abducted, and now Shin gets abducted. I think 503 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: they defected. I think they just faked their kidnappings. So 504 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: people still not looking for them or killing they're gone. Yes. Meanwhile, 505 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: Smash cut to Shin in a North Korean prison camp 506 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: because that's where he was taken by his abductors. So 507 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: he's seriously sitting in a North Korean prison camp. His 508 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: wife you and he she's being treated well. She's in 509 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: Kim Jong's palaces. She's cared for pamper being taken to 510 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: shows eating well, Shannon is also in North Korea, but 511 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: she doesn't know that, right, so she's just like having 512 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: her little life totally unaware. Now being my kind of guy, 513 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: Shin was thinking the whole time he's in the prison camp. 514 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: W W S M D. You know what that stands for? 515 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: What would Steve McQueen do. That's a good thing all 516 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: the time? Well, I mean not all the time. He 517 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: was always there are some exceptions to exactly. So shin 518 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: ch handles Steve McQueen in The Great Escape and he 519 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: gets all inspired. He decides he's gonna bust out of 520 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: this North Korean prison camp. So he starts to write 521 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: and direct his own escape movie starring him. Oh my god, 522 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: that's so perfect. And I got a quote for you 523 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 1: from Shin You ready, He says, when put in extreme situations, 524 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: people imitate what they see in movies. If I was 525 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: going to make a movie about this situation, how would 526 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: I film it? I thought, I'm gonna get out, even 527 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: if I have to dig a tunnel under the floor. 528 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: Then I tried scraping at the floorboards. Anyway, whatever it takes, 529 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: I have to get out of here. So that's his plan, right, 530 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: and we have a lot of cinematic This is not 531 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: really his his part isn't a crime, but it's like 532 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: what's his name with heat? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah completely 533 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: And so my man Shin, he pulls it off. He 534 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: escapes the prison camp. He's able to run off, and 535 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: when he gets outside the fence, he finds a bike. 536 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: I loved this park. He finds a bike. He steals 537 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: a bike, and then he's like, you know what, each 538 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: according to their needs, comrade, and takes off and he's 539 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: gone right on his stolen bike. He's paddling away and 540 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: like Fiona Apple, he's going as fast as he can. 541 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: Right now, Shin sees a train and maybe he can 542 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: catch this train get over the border to China. He's like, 543 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: I've gotta catch that train. So he ditches the stolen bike, 544 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: runs over the freight train, tries to hop like a 545 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: hobo his way onto the train. Makes it. But it 546 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: turns out that train just goes in one big circle. 547 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: It just loop. It doesn't go anywhere. It's such a 548 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: North Korean train. It's like I just go in the circle. 549 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: What I'm just supposed to run? So it is feeded. 550 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: He is, but he's so tired and worn out he 551 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: cannot muster another like escape attempts, So he just goes 552 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: to sleep on top of the train car. Somebody sees 553 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: his foot dangling on the side. They called the police, 554 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: so the police call come, they arrest him. They take 555 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: him back to the prison camp, and he's like I was, 556 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: so he gots he gets up, but then he's taken 557 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: to prison number six. Now, Prison number six is the 558 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: hardcore prison reform camp where political prisoners are sent for 559 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: re education North Korean style re education. Again, yeah, exactly, 560 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: so it shouldn't put it anyway. It's a horrible place anyway. 561 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: This is from his memory. He's telling a story and 562 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: he goes anyway, it's a horrible place. So to survive 563 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: he has to subsist on rice, handfuls of grass and salt. Yeah, 564 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: that's that's his nutrient account. He said, I quote, I 565 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: experienced the limits of human beings. So yeah, he learns 566 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: the one all important lesson from his time in North 567 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: Korea's re education prison. He learns the idea that if 568 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: he wants to ever escape the country, he's going to 569 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: need an actual plan. He can't just run out. I'm 570 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: gonna catch a train or steal a bike. And so 571 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: the first step of his new path is he writes 572 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: a letter to the dear Leader Kim Jong Ill. He's like, hey, 573 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: dear leader, and he promises him, I will make you 574 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 1: glorious films. I will make you great, beautiful films, movies 575 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: that will exalt North Korea on the world stage. This 576 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: is everything Kim Jong Ill has been waiting to hear. 577 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: So Kim Jong Ill is like, as my girl Renee 578 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: Zala Baker, Well, one day come to say you had 579 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: me at hello? So what Shin wins over Kim Jong Ill? 580 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: He has the baby dictator. Hey, what about my kidnapped wife? 581 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: She's still alive now. At this point, Shin has been 582 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: in North Korea for five years, five years, and he 583 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: hasn't seen it yet, hasn't seen it. She doesn't know 584 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: that he's been there for five years. And they had 585 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: two adopted children. They've they've been told by everybody they've defected, 586 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: so their children don't even they think they've been abandoned 587 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: by their parents. So he's just like going through it. Right. 588 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: So February three, Kim Jong Il's birthday. You know, Johnny 589 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: big hair, don't care is going to show out for 590 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: his birthday. So he does and you and he tells 591 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: the story. She's like, one day, out of the blue, 592 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: there was a car waiting to take me to Kim 593 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: Jong Iill's house. You have to understand she knows that 594 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: when a car is sent for her, it just means 595 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: something big is going to happen. You could mean, oh, 596 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna get murdered today, or it could being like, oh, 597 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: I want to show you this this ballerina from Swan 598 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 1: Lake I abducted. You never know, right, So when she arrives, 599 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: Kim john Ill is in a good mood. He's like, 600 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, like Rick James in a room full of cocaine. 601 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: He's like, he's like to give Drake, could go to 602 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: a Drake concert. He's just like and be in the 603 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: front row. He's just beaming. Right. So Kim john Ill 604 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 1: sees her and he's like, miss Joy, it's my birthday party. 605 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: It's a family affair, right, And she's like, oh god right. 606 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: So one of the party guests guides her attention. He's like, 607 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: look over there, you and he she turns and she 608 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: sees her husband, Shin standing in the room, and she's like, 609 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: what the hell. They've dozens of film together, raised two children. 610 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: They have the storybook love affair. They are the ben Affleck. 611 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: He's the ben Affleck to her j Lo. You know, yeah, 612 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: but weren't they divorced? They broke up and then now 613 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: fate has brought them back together. Just in this case, 614 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, Fate is you know, Kim jong Ill just 615 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: like a little less Dunkin Donuts and exactly less cold 616 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: coffee and less dunk now and you and he sees Shin. 617 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: She says, I froze on the spot. Was I dreaming? 618 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: This can't be real. I kept staring at him. All 619 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: I could say is what happened to you? Shin was quiet. 620 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: He just looked at me and smiled. Even then, I 621 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: was thinking if this was a film, there'd be a 622 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: lot of tears. But she's like filming herself. Yeah, they're 623 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: living this out and instead of being like how we 624 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: can get out of here? So Kim Jong Ill is like, 625 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: I think everybody forgot whose birthday party it is. So 626 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: he's like, comrades, let me introduce you. This is director 627 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: shan Are, no film advisor. This is miss Joy mother 628 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: of Korea. So he's like telling him, like, these are 629 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: my new people, right. He orders the reunited couple to 630 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: embrace because the thing you were worried about, he say, 631 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 1: hug up, alright, So they do, and he tells him 632 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: like you're getting You're getting remarried. This is great and 633 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: they're like oh. And eventually the couple is remarried. And 634 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: while they're in North Korea. So at his birthday party, 635 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: Kim John guilt explains to Shin about, oh, by the way, 636 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: about tossing him in prison, that whole rigor morale. He's like, no, sorry, 637 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: it was a misunderstanding. He blames his people, like exactly, 638 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: he just got lost in the translations of paperwork. Sorry. 639 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: So you know, he's like, hey, you try running a 640 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: country without a reliable power grid, you know. So Shin 641 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: said about this time, he's like, I hated communism, but 642 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: I had to pretend to be devoted to it to 643 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: escape from this barren republic. It was lunacy. Now, speaking 644 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: of lunacy, I promised you a North Korean Godzilla, and oh, 645 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: you're ready for it, because we're gonna be getting into 646 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: it now, all right. So now we have our free director, 647 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 1: and all the film ideas, the scripts, the casting whatever, 648 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: all that stuff has to run through Kim Jong Ill. 649 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: Now can you imagine being in the writer's room with 650 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: Kim Jong Illazing, terrifying and amazing. It's ten am. He's 651 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: already had two of your co writers sent to the gulag. 652 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: They weren't laughing at his jokes. Is that just a 653 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: funny pat? Why aren't you laughing? He's he's had like 654 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: a like a delivery person executed for bringing him cold black, 655 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: being the little that's doing this show with you exactly. 656 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: So one Shin is out of prison and Kim Jong 657 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: Il he's like, hey, I'm gonna give you free rein 658 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: And they're allowed. The couples are to go all around 659 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: the country and look for locations for all the movies 660 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: he wants them to make, and they do. It's small 661 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: taste of freedom. They're stoked. They're even allowed to travel internationally. 662 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: One of the trips, the couple goes to Berlin for 663 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: location shoots, but this time it's East Berlin. It's still 664 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: part of the Eastern Block, right, so they're in a 665 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: communist country still, right, but they're outside North Korea. And 666 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: so while they're in East Berlin. Shin and you and 667 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: he are walking around. They see the US embassy and 668 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: you and he his Shin's arm of squeeze. He's like, 669 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: let's run for it, try to make it to the embassy, 670 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: and Shin was like against it. He tells his wife, 671 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: what's the matter with you. I will not make an 672 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 1: attempt unless it is certain if they caught us, we'd 673 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: be dead right now. Plus shins about his make of 674 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: North Korean masterpiece Polga. Sorry, that's the name of North 675 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: Korean godzilla, Pulga. Sorry, Pulga. Sorry, So he wants to 676 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,479 Speaker 1: get into his masterpieces. Like, I ain't going anywhere now. 677 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: After this little break, I will tell you all about Bulga. 678 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: Sorry alright, Elizabeth. While our couple, Shin and you and 679 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: he were being detained in North Korea, they were able 680 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: to shoot seventeen feature films. And they did this in 681 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: a span of two years three months. Yeah, they were 682 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: cranking them out. They said they were like barely sleeping 683 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: to three hours a night. Anyway, there was one unexpected 684 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: side effect they had encountered on, which is the couple 685 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 1: became a walking, talking propaganda film because their lives became content, 686 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: and Kim Jong Hill was able to use it. He 687 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: took photos of them, he put them on North Korean papers, 688 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: those go over to South Korea's borders. Suddenly it looks 689 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: like they're having this great time in North Korea, which 690 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: plays into the story that they voluntarily defected. So and 691 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: they don't know this because they don't know that these 692 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: stories anyway, so it's a whole problem. Anyway, this is 693 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: far from the truth because you and he and Shin 694 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: they even though yes they were like the COMI, ben 695 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: affleckt In j Lo, the People's jay Z and Beyonce, 696 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: they were still in their minds South Korean artists, right. 697 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: So they're like, how do we get out of here? 698 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: And Shin's like, Pulga sorry, So he gives Kim Jong 699 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: Hill what he wants his Godzilla Monster movie. Now. To 700 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: make this North Korean Godzilla truly epic, Shin decides they're 701 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: gonna need to hire the original team from Japan that 702 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: made the original Godzilla back in nineteen fifty four. So 703 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: Shin tells Kim Jong Il's planned and the Dictator to 704 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: be is like, that's so crazy. I freaking love it. 705 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: We got it through this, So this time Kim Jong Il. 706 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: He doesn't have the film crew kidnapped like them. Instead, 707 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: he has this Japanese VFX crew invited to go to 708 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: China to shoot a film. They get on a plane 709 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: and when the plane lands there in North Korea, surprise, 710 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: welcome the pe Yeah so boom. Now one of the 711 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 1: the abductive members of this Japanese VFX crew, it's Elizabeth 712 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: is Ken Pachiro Satsuma. Now, if you don't know the 713 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: name Kim Paturo Satsuma, he's the man who was Godzilla. 714 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: He's the one inside the Rubber Monster. So really yeah, well, 715 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: technically he was the second man to ever wear the 716 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: Godzilla suit because it was a long stretch between fifty 717 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: four and he's he's tall, he's a big boy. He's 718 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 1: I love that. I've I've introduced long Daddy andlexicon, a 719 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: lexicon of strange phrases, tall boys and long days. Well, 720 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: tall boys still reserve for bears, but cemented. So when 721 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: SMA gets to North Korea, he gets to be the 722 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,439 Speaker 1: first to wear the new Pulgasari suit. So he's got 723 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: his own record. Oh my god, So no Polka Sari 724 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: is a lot like Godzilla. I want you to be 725 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,240 Speaker 1: able to picture him. He has a giant lizard beast monster. 726 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: He destroys everything. But he wasn't born from nuclear energy 727 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: from the West. You know that would be too much 728 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: of a flex for the West. So pulga sorry, he 729 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: was made by an elderly farmer and uh he was 730 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: created and shaped out of rice. And Pulgasari came to 731 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: life when a drop of the farmer's daughter's blood landed 732 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: on his rice mold body. I don't want to know 733 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: how that happen. So Kim Jong ill he think he 734 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: wants his film to be a powerful attack on Western 735 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: values and a love song to the people struggle against greed, 736 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: private wealth and oppression. Did Pulgasari have to wear like that, 737 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: like drab, gray North Korean utilitarian sheet clothes. That's the 738 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: other question I have just said. I'm sorry to side 739 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: track you, but I keep wondering in my mind when 740 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: you describe the couple like they're super fashionable and like 741 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: wearing all these designer duds. But did they have to 742 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: pick from like the approved haircuts you know about in 743 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: the Communism under Like most of these times, the party 744 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: leaders have all the best Western stuff but if they're 745 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: going to know, they don't. They are not supposed to 746 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,240 Speaker 1: be emblems of the revolution. The revolution has been from 747 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 1: like a handful of haircuts if you're like a person 748 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: like on the regular, Like, yeah, they don't touch streets, 749 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: so they do whatever they want. Did they cut her 750 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: hair to look like no, Kim John Ill you know 751 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: he has like the helmet hair he's got that. They 752 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: got the papadoor. Sorry, it's fine. So yeah, though they 753 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: had the best of everything. They're eating like, you know, 754 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: wild boar for dinner, running their fingers over pearl necklaces, 755 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: like running their fingers through just like hell, yes, I 756 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: sit here, I run my fingers over pearls and I 757 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: eat deep bore like anyway, they're living locks. Right. So 758 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: in the film Polga Sorry the Monster, there's this wicked 759 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: king because it takes place in the past, and the 760 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: wicked king is starving the people. So the monster attacks 761 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: the king. Right, Godzilla goes after Pulga. Sorry, he goes 762 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: after the king. Now, this plot line gets intercut with 763 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: folk dances of the people because it's a communist movie, Elizabeth, 764 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: and that's what they do in communist movies. In case 765 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: you didn't notice. Yeah, it's it's part of the whole deal. 766 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: It's like their version of a car chase. Instead of 767 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 1: like cut to the chase, it's cut to the harvest dancers. 768 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: So you know. Anyway, Eventually, our monster, Pulgasari, he squares 769 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: off with the king. King fires a missile at him. 770 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: Paulgasari eats the missile. He kills the king right. He's like, 771 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,439 Speaker 1: he eats him right, and the King's like oh. Then, 772 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: surprising everyone, Pulgasari starts attacking the people. They're like, no, 773 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: we didn't see this coming. Pulga sorry, and Paulga sorry 774 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: because he doesn't know any better. He's just, you know, 775 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: a rice mold monster who wants to eat iron. I 776 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: forgot to tell you that he eats iron. So he's 777 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: hungry for delicious, delicious iron. So he's always like eating like, 778 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, gates or sections of fence, or like munching 779 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: on like a farmer's tools, nibbling on a shovel, whatever 780 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: you can get, right. So the farmer's daughter she goes 781 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: and she pleads with Paulga Sari, so leave the people alone, Paulkasari, 782 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: and Polkasari' is like oh and then like, you know, 783 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: I don't know why he explodes, right, he's just like her, 784 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: please are so strong? He explodes, and why would he explode? 785 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: For the people, Elizabeth, it's communism and he's communist Godzilla. 786 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: So he gives his body forth like Jesus and he's 787 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: like each of my Pulga Sari and this sounds beautiful. Anyway. 788 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: At the end of the movie, a baby Polga Sari 789 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: is seen walking out of the sea. Because you always 790 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: got to think of the sequel seeds. Now, surprisingly this 791 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: movie when he gets dropped in North Korean theaters, it's 792 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: a huge hit. People love it. Kim Joyo stoked. He's like, 793 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: it's a masterpiece. It's a work of pure cinema. I'm 794 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: telling you, it's amazing. Now in North Korea, he's a 795 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: really only critic that matters. So this is like if 796 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: Roger Ebert and Cisco and like every other film critic 797 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: you can name, Jean Shallot, there you go. They all 798 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: loved it, right, just all one big person. Now next 799 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,720 Speaker 1: up a voltron. Yeah, but film critics, I am getting 800 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: I am hitting you with some eighties references. You're cheaping 801 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: it on tame like thank you. Next step the North 802 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: Korean film industry. There he decided to take on the 803 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: bloody legacy of Genghis Khan, but not the historic Gengis Khan. 804 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: You're thinking of Jenison Jengis Kon. No. No, they want 805 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: to do the one inspired by John Wayne's version The Conqueror. 806 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: That's the movie where John Wayne plays Genkison everyone got 807 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 1: cancer And if you're wondering, well, Zaron, did he do 808 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:36,439 Speaker 1: that in Yellow Face? You damn Yeah. So the movie 809 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: Racist Is All Hell was something that Kim Jong Ill 810 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: loved and he's like, I want to rebote it. We 811 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: gotta remote it. So they decided to reboot The Conqueror. 812 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: So Chen tells the dictator, I know the perfect person 813 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: for this. If we're doing historical epic, we gotta get 814 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: it on board. And he's like, oh okay, yeah, who 815 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: who you got mined? And he's like, oh, I'm gonna 816 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: go talk to him. He's an Austrian producer. I'll get 817 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: a co production deal going. He starts working on the 818 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: co production deal. The producer friend agrees to a co 819 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,879 Speaker 1: production deal with North Korea, which is pretty rare new 820 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: at the time. Things are looking up for the North 821 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: Korean film industry like maybe Polka. Sorry, he's finally giving 822 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: us a little bit of respect. But turns out that 823 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: the whole Austrian co production deal, that's what we in 824 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: the smoke blowing industry. It's like we call a lie. 825 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: So it was just a cover for Shinn and you 826 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: and he to finally escape smart yes, right, because Shin 827 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: wrote in his memoir to be in Korea living a 828 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: good life ourselves and enjoying movies while everyone else was 829 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: not free was not happiness but agony. So he's like, 830 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 1: I gotta get out of this. So he ties he's 831 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: gonna end the agony. I'm flying to Vienna, so and 832 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: he hoped his bravery would catch up to him when 833 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 1: he got there. So the date is March thirteenth, nineteen six. 834 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: The ultracool couple arrives in Vienna. They check into a 835 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: hotel there with their North Korean minders, the agents, intelligence agents, 836 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: Shinn and you and he. They're chilling in the hotel 837 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: room across the hall or other North Korea intelligent handlers. 838 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: They're smoking with the door open, playing cards, you know, 839 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: playing poker or whatever. She and you he They look 840 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: at each other decide this is our moment. So they 841 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: start packing their bags. They pack like one piece of 842 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: luggage each and they make a break for it. If 843 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: you rush out of the room, they sneak down the hallway. 844 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,280 Speaker 1: Each of them told you carrying a small piece of luggage. 845 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: Are trying to be super quiet. If they get caught, 846 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 1: they'll lose everything, everything, their freedom, they're possibly their lives. 847 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: He'll be sent back to a re education camp, maybe worse. 848 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: So they're like, we cannot blow this. And remember she 849 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: said it has to be a guarantee. He's going for it. 850 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: His bravery is caught up to him. They make it. 851 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: They run for it down the hallway, they make it 852 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,240 Speaker 1: to the elevator, down to the lobby, and the elevator, 853 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 1: they make it across the hotel lobby. Outside, they flag 854 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: down a taxi cab. They may get inside of the cab, 855 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: they shut the door. Elizabeth, at this point, I'd like 856 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: you to close your eyes, yes and picture it. You've 857 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: been driving a cab in Austria for about two weeks now. 858 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 1: You'd love to be able to get people where they 859 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: want to go. You love to see the city. Vienna 860 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: is a terribly beautiful city to walk through or to 861 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: drive through. You really take into your new job as 862 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: a Viennese cabby. You just love it. But there's one problem. 863 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 1: You don't know your way around the city, like at all, 864 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: like just at all, not yet got you got a 865 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: lot of maps, but whatever. So you're always telling your 866 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: passengers to be patient with you. You're like, hey, I'm 867 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: new in town. And sometimes they laugh, sometimes they do 868 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 1: not laugh. So the door to your cab swam shut 869 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 1: and you spot the two fresh passengers you just climbed 870 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: to the back seat. It's a middle aged Korean couple, 871 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: both well dressed. They look like movie stars. You turn 872 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: on the meter and you ask in French, then in Austrian, German, 873 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: and finally in English, where are you headed? You're surprised 874 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: when you hear the answer. The woman you and he 875 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: she shouts at you just drive. You're like okay, Well, 876 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: you think okay. You put your Mercedes Sedan taxi in 877 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: to drive and you ease away from the curb. You 878 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: gently pull away from the hotel's front door, and the 879 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 1: man the back said, can you can you drive faster? 880 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: You're like, sure, buddy, once you were on the street, 881 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: you haven't noticed We're kind of in a driveway. Okay, 882 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: but you sit tight, Buttercup, don't you worry? And these 883 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,919 Speaker 1: ponies like to run. So at this point you check 884 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: both your side mirrors, your rear view mirror for some reason, 885 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: then your side of your mirrors again, just to be certain. 886 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,720 Speaker 1: Once you're satisfied it's safe, you ease your Mercedes Sedan 887 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,479 Speaker 1: taxicab out into traffic. Can you please drive faster now? 888 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: The woman in the back asked you, and you're like, yeah, yeah, 889 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 1: he's like, please drive faster. Like you guys were so cute. 890 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: You haven't even told me where we're going, but you're like, hey, 891 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: can we speed to get there? So like, maybe you 892 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: want to tell me where we're going. And you pull 893 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 1: up to a red light and then you stop and 894 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: you hum to yourself and you're looking in the rear 895 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: view waiting for them to tell you where you're going, 896 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: and you're like, well, do you guys have a radio 897 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: station you want to hear do anything you like? They 898 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: don't answer. You've you noticed that they have spun around. 899 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 1: They're looking behind you and traffic to see if anyone's 900 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 1: following your car. You're like, I said, our favorite radio 901 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: stations you guys like you like the tunes, You're like 902 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: rock music. What do you want to hear? You're asking 903 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: and no answer. Again, You're these people are kind of 904 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: rude anyway, light changes, so you get back to driving 905 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,280 Speaker 1: and your eaves dropping on your passengers there while they're 906 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: just focused on the traffic behind you, and you hear 907 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: the woman saying, there the cap, it's suspicious, right, you 908 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: see it? And the guys like, tchwe she's like the 909 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: black and white cap. There, it's them. They're following us. 910 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: They both spin back around and now you see that 911 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: they're holding hands and trembling like autumn leaves in a 912 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: stiff breeze. And you're like, oh my goodness. You ask 913 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: him again, Hey, you guys know where you side? Where 914 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: we're going? And the woman says, the US embassy, take 915 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: us to the U. S Embassy. You tell her with 916 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: a smile and your voice, oh, I'm only too happy 917 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: to help the US embassy. Great idea. Oh that's a 918 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: great choice. One thing, do you know where it is? Like? 919 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: Are you kidding with us? Is she kidding? What? What 920 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 1: do the guys that go left? And you're like, okay, 921 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's it, but the light's about 922 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: it change, so you're like, huh, but you remember you're 923 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 1: being followed. They probably want you to make the light. 924 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: So you hit the gas and you roar through the 925 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: intersection and you make it. You hug a tight right 926 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: turn and you make it, and the taxi game behind 927 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 1: you get stuck behind a bread truck, so they're stoked, 928 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: and you're like saying, don't you guys worry so American embassy. 929 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I can find this embassy. And you're 930 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: just bouncing along in your cap. You're like, but hey, 931 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: please be patient with me. I'm new here, I'm new 932 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 1: in town. Doesn't get a laugh. Again, doesn't get a laugh. 933 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: You're like, whatever, shinnon you and he they're just holding hands, 934 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: shaking in the back seat, and you're like, I don't 935 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 1: I'm not that scary of a driver. I don't know 936 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: why they're just so tight, but whatever. They keep checking 937 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: behind them, and you're like, no, US embassy. All that's right. 938 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,879 Speaker 1: All the nice hotels are by that big park. I'll 939 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: go over there. So you're just driving over towards this 940 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: one big park you know about where you think there's 941 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 1: nice hotels. You keep your eyes on the road because 942 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 1: getting in an accident that sure wouldn't help Elizabeth. And 943 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: always safety first, the Elizabeth Dutton Guarantee. So when you 944 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: turn and you gently speed down a side road which 945 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: parallels the main major boulevard, and you're headed to where 946 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 1: you remember seeing a bunch of the big houses and 947 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: hotels and flags, and you're like, I bet that's Embassy Row. 948 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: So you're driving over there and you drive towards this 949 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: green expanse of oh Stod Park. You see this signs. 950 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I know this is right. You drive 951 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: past the fancy hotels, You're like, I think this is it. 952 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: You're getting all excited. They're still super nervous. You're like, okay, 953 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: make a high speed right turn, and you imagine to 954 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,720 Speaker 1: sneak through a yellow light. Make it. Finally, your taxi 955 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: cab slides to us up fifty yards from the U. S. Embassy. 956 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: You turned your passengers and tell them U. S. Embassy 957 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: is the one with the American flags, I think, and 958 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: then they like, I am the worst just right over there. Hey, 959 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: by the way, this rides on me. Looks like you 960 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,439 Speaker 1: kids could use some black huh. So they're like, okay, thanks, sorry, 961 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,240 Speaker 1: and they hop out of the car. You and he smiles. 962 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 1: She's like, you drive better than Robert Mitchum and you're like, 963 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: oh thanks. The man just waves and nods and they 964 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,919 Speaker 1: both run after this sumps. They closed the doors. They're 965 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: running right, just fast as their feet hit pavement, and 966 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: they were like cartoon running right. You're like, oh man, 967 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: it's like they're running as fast as Feon Apple moves 968 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: again again. I'm I'm driving at home, baby. So they're 969 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: run as fast as they can and towards the front 970 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: gid of the U. S. Embassy. Forty yards left to go, 971 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 1: thirty yards left to go, twenty yards left to go, 972 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: ten yards left to go the goal line. There at 973 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: the goal I touched down. They make it. They make 974 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: it across the line, Elizabeth, And you watched them go, 975 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,879 Speaker 1: and you say to yourself, I remember when I first 976 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: ran to the U. S. Embassy. And then you drive 977 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: away now being who they are, you and he and 978 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: Shin they both compared their daring escape as you've noticed, 979 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 1: to what they know best. You and he said, even 980 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 1: though I ran fast like this, and she doesn't minds it. 981 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,720 Speaker 1: It felt like slow motion in a movie. Slow motion 982 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 1: was all I could think about. I love that she's 983 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: like in a good Dard New way of French film, 984 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: like making her escape. But you know this is all, 985 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: by the way, a huge embarrassment to Kim Jong Ill, 986 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 1: huge embarrassment. So what does he do? What does what 987 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: does the little dictator do? The only thing he can do. 988 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 1: He kills Paul Gasary. He takes the film out of 989 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,840 Speaker 1: the theaters, destroys the movie, takes all of their films 990 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: out of any theater, doesn't allow their films never to 991 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: be shown again in North Korea. And this is his 992 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 1: hope to erase their memory, right, but they're free. The 993 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,760 Speaker 1: movie Polo Sorry re emerges from the depths of cultural memory. 994 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 1: There's this Japanese film critic who remembers it. He launches 995 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: a one man campaign to kreem the film in Korea 996 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 1: and South Korea so that he gets a copy of 997 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,760 Speaker 1: the North Korean Godzilla film and he and he starts 998 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: showing it in South Korean theaters, multiple theaters, and the 999 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:15,479 Speaker 1: movie bombs at bombs a thousand, one thousand people paid 1000 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: actual money to see it. One thousand people has now 1001 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 1: in two thousand one. An American company they tried the 1002 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 1: same stunt, and they're like, hey, we need to bring 1003 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 1: that Pulgasari over to American shores, maybe to be a 1004 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 1: hit like Godzilla. No theatrical release this time instead, there 1005 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 1: just like, what's you gonna go straight to videos? So 1006 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,760 Speaker 1: then you go straight to video. There are VHS copies 1007 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: of this monster movie and ever since then, for the 1008 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: last twenty years or so, it occasionally pops up. You'll 1009 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 1: see North Korean Godzilla in the wild. It's just out 1010 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 1: there in America, wandering in the dark. Pops up like 1011 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: in New York at a theater, maybe in l A, 1012 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 1: maybe done in Austin. It's been shown in Canada, over 1013 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,320 Speaker 1: in Bristol in the UK. It pops up in places 1014 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 1: you would never expect. But if you're really curious, you 1015 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 1: can find it on YouTube. Just look up Paulgasari. Now, 1016 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: after making his Godzilla remake, John Ill went in a 1017 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: very different direction politics. He became the monster of North 1018 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,479 Speaker 1: Korea after his father died. But one of his last 1019 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 1: great acts, when he was still not quite the leader, 1020 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 1: he had this giant sign erected outside the Ministry of 1021 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: Culture that said make more cartoons. He decided movies were 1022 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 1: not it so killed his love of movies. So, Elizabeth, 1023 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: what is our ridiculous takeaway here? Oh? Man, I don't know. 1024 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: You know, something that I'm like still kind of hung 1025 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: up on is them escaping the hotel in Vienna and 1026 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: they packed bags. Why buy underpants? I assumed that it 1027 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,840 Speaker 1: was they had some tapes that they had recorded. So 1028 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 1: they have this bag of tapes that they need to 1029 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: get because they need to prove to people that they 1030 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 1: were abducted and they have secretly recorded him. They have records. 1031 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 1: They also have other documents, and then they're they're artists, 1032 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,800 Speaker 1: so they have like mementos that they apparently wanted to 1033 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,879 Speaker 1: keep of their time making movies. I don't know, I'm 1034 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: just imagining like a little like weekend bag and they're 1035 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,800 Speaker 1: shoving swim trunks in there. I'm like, there's no time 1036 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 1: from that. No. My takeaway, it's interesting how film has 1037 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 1: such a grasp on people that it's like such an 1038 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 1: incredible medium because you have the sound, you have the 1039 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: site and everything and all this emotion. It's like the 1040 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 1: most cathartic immediate thing aside from live theater. Right, But 1041 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 1: then but it pulls people in and completely see it 1042 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: was just intoxicating to them. It's amazing and intoxic is 1043 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: the right word. Because like a like a film junkie, 1044 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,359 Speaker 1: Kim Jong Il had to come back around to it, 1045 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: and in two thousand he had North Korea make another 1046 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: remake of a classic Western movie, this time Titanic. He's like, 1047 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 1: let's try one more time to see if we can 1048 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: get respect from the Western audiences. So he made a 1049 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 1: North three and Titanic, and I've watched some of it. 1050 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: It is horrendous. So that's my ridiculous take away. Thank 1051 00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 1: you for asking Elizabeth welcome, You're welcome. Well. You can 1052 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,320 Speaker 1: find us online at Ridiculous Crime on both Twitter and Instagram. 1053 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: The words are on the bird, the images are on 1054 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 1: the Graham, and you get sneak peeks at new Epps 1055 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: on both emails. If you like Ridiculous Crime at gmail 1056 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,839 Speaker 1: dot com, or just shout into the wind and maybe 1057 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 1: we'll hear it. Thanks for listening. 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