Speaker 1: NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is
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Speaker 1: NFL Cover zero rd Rock again first week of August,
Speaker 1: getting ready for the Hall of Fame game coming up
Speaker 1: on Thursday. Is it Thursday or Saturday?
Speaker 2: Thursday?
Speaker 1: Thursday Thursday? First game of the year, Carolina and Arizona.
Speaker 1: You couldn't pick a better matchup to get the fans
Speaker 1: excited in Canton. Through Franklin, Matt Jones and Billy R. Sports,
Speaker 1: we are going to begin this week our NFL season previews,
Speaker 1: going by division. We're gonna do two divisions each week
Speaker 1: today the NFC East and the NFC South, So one
Speaker 1: of the sexiest divisions and then without question the least
Speaker 1: sexy division vision in sports. But Drew, nice to be
Speaker 1: with you. We'll also catch up on all the news
Speaker 1: of the NFL going into training camp. Lots of injuries unfortunately,
Speaker 1: but yes, ready for our first football tomorrow you.
Speaker 2: Or are you? Coming up just hours away from uh
Speaker 2: one of the one of the rivalries in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Won't call it the biggest, but it is a cross.
Speaker 1: Country then what is the biggest Carolina Arizona moment. I mean,
Speaker 1: Carolina and Arizona are two teams that not all that
Speaker 1: long ago have made the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of former runners up in the in
Speaker 2: the NFL, and both times in games that are memorable,
Speaker 2: but not for them, meaning like you had that great
Speaker 2: comeback by Roethlisberger and Pittsburgh against against them and that
Speaker 2: was them.
Speaker 1: And then you had Jake Delone like throwing sixty one
Speaker 1: interceptions in the Super Bowl against the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Am I right about that? I think it might not
Speaker 2: be right at sixty one, but he tried.
Speaker 1: He was on in the fifties. But yes, yeah, Cam Newton.
Speaker 2: Made one right right, Denver refused to fall on the ball,
Speaker 2: didn't jump on the fumble, didn't jump on the fumble.
Speaker 2: So this has just been knocking on the door. That's
Speaker 2: why I'm looking forward to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: But if you ask people, name a team that has
Speaker 1: made two Super Bowls since two thousand, name the NFC
Speaker 1: teams that have made the Super Bowl twice since two thousand.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many people would think of the
Speaker 1: Panthers as being an answer, but they are.
Speaker 2: Two more than the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, just quickly, how many teams in
Speaker 1: the NFC have made more Super Bowls in the two thousands.
Speaker 2: Than Carolina? So we know Dallas is not.
Speaker 1: The Giants I believe have made two, so the same
Speaker 1: now they won them, but still same them ount Eagles,
Speaker 1: Eagles have more, Eagles have been more, Commanders have not,
Speaker 1: Bears have not, Lions have not, Vikings have not. Packers
Speaker 1: I think have been more than two. Let's keep going.
Speaker 1: We're the Saints. No, Falcons know Tampa, how many have
Speaker 1: they been to since? But that's not more? They won both, correct,
Speaker 1: but that's not more. I'm just talking about getting the games.
Speaker 1: Get into their Arizona no, San Francisco.
Speaker 2: No. How many times have the Rams been since two thousand?
Speaker 1: Seattle's been three times?
Speaker 3: Well, I know the forty Niners have at least three,
Speaker 3: so they are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fort ahead of them, So the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: Seattle and Philadelphia have made more Super Bowls since two
Speaker 1: thousand then the Panthers, but only three teams in the NFC.
Speaker 1: I just think it's an interesting little factoid that if
Speaker 1: you were to do it on uh, you know, your
Speaker 1: bar trivia.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people would get the Panthers.
Speaker 2: That's why they've they've tasted it. They've gotten so close.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they've on their mouth, they just haven't gotten
Speaker 1: to swallow.
Speaker 2: Bryce Young probably has a Jay Guloan picture next to
Speaker 2: his bed and he's thinking, I want to win for him. Yes,
Speaker 2: not just for me. I want to go out and
Speaker 2: win for him and for Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: So you know, just an interesting little, uh little factoid
Speaker 1: for you kids out there. So we're gonna get We're
Speaker 1: gonna start with with some previews, and we're gonna start
Speaker 1: with the nfcas. Now, the question, I guess is, let's
Speaker 1: start at the top. Who do you have winning the
Speaker 1: NFCS Cowboys, Eagles, Commanders or Giants. Because I'll start with
Speaker 1: that team. I want to give you a chance to
Speaker 1: pick the order. Who do you have to come in first.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go and be reckless right away. They
Speaker 2: poured the Dallas Cowboys potion every off season, but I'm
Speaker 2: drinking at this offseason. I have pouring myself a glass.
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to put him in the super Bowl,
Speaker 2: but I think they get the division back this year. Okay,
Speaker 2: we'll make the case that offense was awesome. Last season,
Speaker 2: they averaged like forty a game. The Pickings ceedee Lamb
Speaker 2: Combo ended up working out. Pickens revitalized his career. They're
Speaker 2: the best receiving duo. Dak healthy, looks like young Dak again,
Speaker 2: doesn't look like a guy on the back end of
Speaker 2: his career. New running back comes in. I think. I
Speaker 2: think you rushed for one thousand yards. The offense was spectacular.
Speaker 2: On the other end, the defense was absolute trash.
Speaker 1: Brought in a lot of guys though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just as they could as much as they could
Speaker 2: score forty, they could easily give up forty. But they
Speaker 2: fired your boy, Ibra Flus. He was a one and
Speaker 2: done head coordinator. They bring in a newator. Told you
Speaker 2: that got kind of a steal in the draft, with
Speaker 2: Caleb Downs falling a little farther they thought, even though
Speaker 2: he still got it at like twelfth or something like that,
Speaker 2: if he pans out right away as a rookie. I
Speaker 2: think the defense can improve, but I expect the offense
Speaker 2: to repeat and be nearly as explosive as it was
Speaker 2: last year.
Speaker 1: So it's easy and sort of the eye rolling about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to overlook how much better their offense was
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, Dak was Dak again. Pickens look
Speaker 1: like you know, made the Steelers look stupid for lett
Speaker 1: him go ceedee Lamb didn't have the year for most
Speaker 1: of the year they normally had, but then had some
Speaker 1: good weeks towards the end. If they're all clicking, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have what does Dak throw for?
Speaker 2: You know what? Five thousands in the five thousand club,
Speaker 2: So they're tight end. Got married this offseason to a Cavendar.
Speaker 2: Isn't that what they're called. Yeah, but I don't know
Speaker 2: if that's good. I think that's that's your name, right,
Speaker 2: I remember.
Speaker 1: Cavendar, not cadaver.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, he married a Cavender. Yeah, so now he's
Speaker 2: laser focused. It was the biggest tight end marriage of
Speaker 2: the offseason, I would say in the NFL. Yes, can't
Speaker 2: think of any bigger. Do the Cavenders.
Speaker 1: I know they played sports, but I don't think I
Speaker 1: ever see them when they're not dancing. Do they have
Speaker 1: a talent that is not I mean, I know they
Speaker 1: did play sports, but I think they're I think even
Speaker 1: under the current college sports rules, their eligibility is over.
Speaker 1: Do they do anything but days?
Speaker 2: You know, they were high level college basketball players, but
Speaker 2: they were big schools. I only know them for their tiktoking.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I've seen them take a jump shot.
Speaker 1: And I don't know which one switch, and I don't
Speaker 1: even know. I think one of them's names Hannah, and
Speaker 1: the other one's name is Barbara. He was pronounced Barbara Barbonhan, Haley, Hayden.
Speaker 1: Would you do that if you had twins? Would you
Speaker 1: name them things that are Hannah Haley both h a
Speaker 1: or do you just go completely? Would like you know,
Speaker 1: I told you and when I was going up there
Speaker 1: was twins named Nathan and Nathaniel.
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know that too far
Speaker 2: into why is that bad? One? You? Is it bad?
Speaker 3: She pronounced it Nathaniel too, not nothing Annuel. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: that's too similar. Like I would get Matthew and Michael
Speaker 3: for like two twins.
Speaker 1: So you would do a literation, yes, but you wouldn't
Speaker 1: do But they went two letters Hannah and.
Speaker 3: Like a different pronunciation of the same name seems a
Speaker 3: little crazy.
Speaker 1: Matthew and Mathew.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that really has a lot to do with
Speaker 1: how the Cowboys are gonna do this year. But you
Speaker 1: you are believing can win the division?
Speaker 2: Yes, and I fool expect to be burned because Cowboys
Speaker 2: fans and people are betting on them. Every year get burned.
Speaker 2: But I say this is the year they take it
Speaker 2: back from the Eagles. Are you pro or con Brian Schottenheim,
Speaker 2: I'm pro your one look fun. I mean, defense was awful,
Speaker 2: as we said, but they made a quick change there,
Speaker 2: made the right draft picks. They're still recovering from the
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons trade. The story has not been written on
Speaker 2: that yet. They lost the pr battle early, but if
Speaker 2: the youth can step up this upcoming season, maybe they
Speaker 2: end up winning that tree.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones this week, I think he said something like,
Speaker 1: I have a race against time life versus winning a
Speaker 1: super Bowl. What are the odds DraftKings setting.
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to put them in the big game yet.
Speaker 2: I think Jerry is still racing against that. Cl'ar an
Speaker 2: NFL podcast. We can say, yeah, a super Bowtle think
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not ready put them there. I didn't
Speaker 2: get that deep into the potion. So I think Jerry
Speaker 2: is still it's a one year see even though Deck
Speaker 2: looked young a year ago. His clock is also ticking,
Speaker 2: so I understand why Jerry fills the urgency right now.
Speaker 1: He says he's considering selling a part of the team
Speaker 1: to Mark Cuban.
Speaker 2: That's interesting, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Like two Dallas Mega owners, mega personalities come together. Do
Speaker 1: they come together like Hulk and Macho at SummerSlam and
Speaker 1: then the Mega Powers explode at WrestleMania five? I mean,
Speaker 1: what's happening here?
Speaker 2: I think the real loseron that would be the Jones
Speaker 2: family who just want to own everything and take over
Speaker 2: after Jerry. I think if Mark gets too big of
Speaker 2: a piece of the pie, maybe they just have to
Speaker 2: start worrying about their futures. If I were Jerry, you
Speaker 2: got enough money, just keep the whole time his money
Speaker 2: as a person need Yeah, I mean, we just want
Speaker 2: the Seahawks just self order. Yeah, the Cowboy's worth more
Speaker 2: than that. Just hang on to Jerry. It's been a
Speaker 2: good investment for you.
Speaker 1: I saw that the Cowboys owner, the Seahawks owner. They
Speaker 1: asked him, you know, why did it? And he goes
Speaker 1: because it will be fun, which I thought, like that
Speaker 1: for a man who just spend nine million dollars, not
Speaker 1: a bad answer.
Speaker 2: It's fun.
Speaker 1: Just so rich.
Speaker 2: I just want to go and buy a football team. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I put his wife in charge too, right, I think
Speaker 2: he did.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm just trying to, you know, find bread that
Speaker 1: I can eat before it spoils. And they're like, they
Speaker 1: got bigger problems. I think I have bigger problems. He'll
Speaker 1: be fine. Your smaller problems way heavier than small problems,
Speaker 1: came wait, hea, Hey, so what's your prediction on a
Speaker 1: record over unders?
Speaker 2: Nine and a half? Twelve and five? Twelve and five?
Speaker 3: All right, Billy, I'm believing strong. I think Pickens has
Speaker 3: another great year. I think they really struck gold getting him.
Speaker 3: So I would take Cowboys to win the division this year,
Speaker 3: and so I guess I would take the over on
Speaker 3: that nine and a half if I'm doing that prediction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not picking him to win the division, but
Speaker 2: I think they will win. Well.
Speaker 1: The problem is I need to I need to look
Speaker 1: at the schedule. I think they're right at that nine
Speaker 1: and a half, hence the number. I'm gonna take the
Speaker 1: under just because I think they raised that number for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys because they know they know their fans are
Speaker 1: gonna do it. But I are gonna beat so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take the under. But I think they go nine
Speaker 1: to eight. Philadelphia Eagles. They were eleven and six last year,
Speaker 1: won the division.
Speaker 2: They are what do you think?
Speaker 1: I mean, you lose Aj Brown, you still got Hurts.
Speaker 1: Feels like they took a major step back last year.
Speaker 1: But I also think people have given up on them
Speaker 1: a little quickly.
Speaker 2: I'm not I have them falling behind the Cowboys, but
Speaker 2: I'm not throwing them aside and giving up. Their offense
Speaker 2: just completely disappeared after being one of the best offenses
Speaker 2: in the NFL. They did not finish the strong, finish
Speaker 2: the season strong at all. You can look at it
Speaker 2: one side and say, maybe AJ Brown was, you know,
Speaker 2: the sideline antics and maybe having a little few with
Speaker 2: Jailen Hurts kind of derailed everything. I think they're gonna
Speaker 2: end up filling a j Brown lost more than it's
Speaker 2: gonna help them, even though his numbers dipped a little bit.
Speaker 1: Tough start to the year, by the way for them.
Speaker 1: They go Washington, then Tennessee, but then they have Bears, Rams, Jags, Panthers,
Speaker 1: Cowboys Commanders again. I mean, like, you know you're gonna
Speaker 1: know about this team, right out of the gate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to replace Brown, and they drafted the
Speaker 2: guy from USC believe Leman to replace him. Now, if
Speaker 2: he shows up right away and is awesome, maybe that
Speaker 2: offense get back and gets back to for him. But
Speaker 2: I think they take a little bit of a dip.
Speaker 1: You do worry about the receiver position on this team.
Speaker 1: We'll see what they what they end up having. Defensively,
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna be great. I mean, they just.
Speaker 2: Keep still taking advantage of these draft picks that she
Speaker 2: has gotten.
Speaker 1: They just keep adding guys and so one of the
Speaker 1: things I like about their team is if you get
Speaker 1: any offense at all, just even a minor upgrade, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be really good. They're gonna be in every game.
Speaker 1: I still like them to win the division again. Although
Speaker 1: they do play a first first play schedule includes games
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks. You gotta play the Bears, But because
Speaker 1: the Bears sort of pulled off an upset last year,
Speaker 1: and because the Seahawks may take a step back, I
Speaker 1: actually don't think the first play schedule is as bad
Speaker 1: as it normally would be.
Speaker 2: That and eventually I don't think it'll be soon, but
Speaker 2: eventually the Saquon Decline's gonna start. I mean the Giants
Speaker 2: thought that had already happened a few years ago, and
Speaker 2: then we saw what happened in Philly two seasons ago.
Speaker 2: But also a lot of a route on what version
Speaker 2: of Saquon and if he plays the whole.
Speaker 1: Year, what's the over under for them?
Speaker 2: Do you have that?
Speaker 3: Not in front of me? Actually, but I can look
Speaker 3: it up.
Speaker 1: On't you look it up there? You know that is
Speaker 1: part of your role.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, they got everybody's best shot last year
Speaker 3: as the defending title, so maybe.
Speaker 2: They did, and I think that they had a microscope
Speaker 2: on them because they were coming off the title. Then
Speaker 2: I think won't be on there as much this year,
Speaker 2: I think not quite.
Speaker 1: Frankly, the Cowboys are to get a lot of that attention,
Speaker 1: so you know, maybe that makes it a little bit better.
Speaker 1: What's interesting, though, is that you haven't got a coach
Speaker 1: who won the Super Bowl two years ago that if
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a good year this year, you might
Speaker 1: get fired, which is absolutely crazy. But it feels like
Speaker 1: the Eagles fans have never really.
Speaker 2: Warmed to him. Yeah, I know, he's got a ring
Speaker 2: on his finger and it doesn't feel like a fan favorite.
Speaker 2: Usually when you're at a place and you win a ring,
Speaker 2: that buys you a decade, No if you need it.
Speaker 1: If he has a bad year this year, he's gone.
Speaker 2: And after Hurts won the championship, you know they're doing
Speaker 2: the Jordan commercial and like, is this a future MVP
Speaker 2: of the league and is this one of the best
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that they're gonna step up? And now if you
Speaker 2: look at like preseason rankings, he's not a top ten quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Get out? Which is that?
Speaker 2: It's wild to me Eagles fan? Philadelphia? What is it
Speaker 2: that makes that place so negative? Why do they get
Speaker 2: so angry they do? Why what Lebron I want to
Speaker 2: go there?
Speaker 1: I mean every they're so angry about everything, every sport film.
Speaker 1: It's not that the team, the Philolphia Flyers had like
Speaker 1: one of their best years ever and and you know
Speaker 1: people are like, well, I'll fire the coach. I mean,
Speaker 1: you just had a good coach, like you first, you
Speaker 1: were good for the first time.
Speaker 2: Why I don't know why they're like that. They're not
Speaker 2: like that for Villanova who cracked their bill. It's all
Speaker 2: that cheese whizz they're eating. It's so sad, which is
Speaker 2: it's all the cheese whist ten and a half. Oh,
Speaker 2: I was gonna say ten and seven, So I guess
Speaker 2: I'm under there.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what she had the Cowboys, So you're you know, twelve,
Speaker 1: twelve and five. Man, your Vegas is good at setting
Speaker 1: these lines.
Speaker 2: Have you noticed that it seems like they do this.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go eleven, so I'm gonna take the over
Speaker 2: for them.
Speaker 1: But again, within a half half a game, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a mass a team in both the NFC and
Speaker 1: the AFC that takes a huge step back. The Eagles
Speaker 1: are a common pick for that. You're going not so
Speaker 1: you don't think a huge step back.
Speaker 2: I'm going to Well, I think Cowboys and Eagles both
Speaker 2: sweep the other two teams.
Speaker 1: So do you have who do you have taking a
Speaker 1: huge step back? Usually there's at least one in the
Speaker 1: in the NFC that will take a step back.
Speaker 2: I have a few that I think played above their level.
Speaker 2: They weren't huge. Continuing to say the Bears though, aren't
Speaker 2: you No, No, I still like the Bears. I have
Speaker 2: a few teams like the Bucks I think have a
Speaker 2: big fall ahead of it. Now. I think the top
Speaker 2: the Cream is still at the top. But I think
Speaker 2: some teams that I.
Speaker 1: Think year for a day, the Seahawks have a big
Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks take a step back.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Do you watch Hard Knocks? No?
Speaker 1: Is it first episode out?
Speaker 2: Came out last? What made it good? I kind of
Speaker 2: did the Twitter recap where I feel like I saw
Speaker 2: all of it in little clips. But I fall for
Speaker 2: Hard Knocks. I love it like the Jets were on it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, Jets are going undefeated. It gets me
Speaker 2: every time. So it's out the first episode. That and
Speaker 2: ted Lasso out the same night. How rude ted Lasso
Speaker 2: came out last? First episode?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that first episode he Co, which is
Speaker 1: a woman's soccer team in Kansas City, which.
Speaker 2: I'm worried they're gonna they're gonna take to the last
Speaker 2: What do you mean, which shows just go on too long?
Speaker 2: You think you're gonna bring in like cousin Oliver. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just they're just gonna keep coming up with storyline
Speaker 2: the color. Yeah, so the best shows that you just
Speaker 2: cut it off? Yeah, which shows? Okay, see obviously they
Speaker 2: call that to jump the shark moment, gos do the moment.
Speaker 1: A couple of shows jumped the shark. When was the
Speaker 1: office over.
Speaker 2: When Michael left? Well, that's an easy one.
Speaker 1: But I still think there were decent episodes for a
Speaker 1: little while. I think when James Spader what was his
Speaker 1: name something, California.
Speaker 3: Don't remember, do you remember that?
Speaker 2: I've done a rewatch, so I didn't really live in
Speaker 2: real time where I could fill the decline. I just
Speaker 2: binged them on. You didn't feel the decline when Michael
Speaker 2: Scott left, not really.
Speaker 1: I mean they had that period where there would be
Speaker 1: the guys there for like a couple of weeks, and
Speaker 1: I thought that was okay. But then they went I think,
Speaker 1: didn't they go with Spader for a little while? Was
Speaker 1: the name Robert California or is that his name? That's
Speaker 1: when I thought. And even though I love ed Helms,
Speaker 1: there came a point that he was too much, too
Speaker 1: much at Helms. They had too much Ed Helms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of shows have gone on long, too far.
Speaker 2: I mean that one has become a classic as it's
Speaker 2: gone on, But like, do you think The Simpsons has
Speaker 2: had that moment or is it just like they'll be
Speaker 2: doing it seventy years from now? I could see that lasting.
Speaker 2: It's like when you have a show has one good
Speaker 2: storyline and they wrap it up, then they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm making money, Like well they don't age either, yeah,
Speaker 2: and they're you know, they keep up. Like I'm thinking
Speaker 2: the Walking Dead there wasn't a moment, but it should
Speaker 2: have ended it like five seasons and now there's thirty.
Speaker 2: That's like it's like, all right, can we ever just
Speaker 2: solve the zombie? Probably just keeps going.
Speaker 1: But there're shows that never did that, like The Sopranos
Speaker 1: never did it. I don't think The Wire ever did it.
Speaker 1: Breaking Bad never did it. Seinfeld, do you think it
Speaker 1: had a moment? It got a little weird in the
Speaker 1: last year. I remember like when Kramer was hitting golf
Speaker 1: balls into Wales. But then at the end, we you know,
Speaker 1: they had a very famous final season with them sitting
Speaker 1: in the prison cell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are more sitcom and I'm thinking, like Homeland
Speaker 2: season one, amazing, she just ended it, and then it
Speaker 2: gets into.
Speaker 1: Just it should have just absolutely somehow, like Ted Last
Speaker 1: Thrones had a moment like that. Yeah, they're following the books.
Speaker 1: It got worse with time, but it's almost like when
Speaker 1: you have a good two or three seasons and they can't.
Speaker 2: We're making money.
Speaker 1: This is the NFC preview. Why do we talk about
Speaker 1: Hard Last Ted last O? See, okay, gotcha? The Hard Knocks,
Speaker 1: It's Tom was.
Speaker 3: Dexter another one that went on a little too long.
Speaker 2: I mean how many I never watched that show, but
Speaker 2: how many people could this man kill?
Speaker 3: Exactly?
Speaker 2: Can we spoil it? He himself? Oh yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know how twenty years he died and then like, well,
Speaker 2: we need to bring him back and make more money.
Speaker 2: So just bring him back. And we was just pretend
Speaker 2: he didn't die, and you're like, you're watching it, I'm
Speaker 2: pretty stre he dies. He died in the last episode. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but then they wanted a new Sea ruin the series.
Speaker 2: It's been out long enough. Yeah, all right with that?
Speaker 1: The Washington Commanders five and twelve last year third in
Speaker 1: the NFC's missed the playoffs. You get Jade and Daniels back.
Speaker 1: So the question is is Jaden Daniels going to be
Speaker 1: what he was two years ago? If he is, then
Speaker 1: the NFC East looks like it could be loaded. If it's.
Speaker 1: If he's not, then you have the scenario you were
Speaker 1: talking about where you could sweep those teams.
Speaker 2: Which one do you think it is. I don't think
Speaker 2: they take much of a step forward. They had a
Speaker 2: lot of injuries last year. Maybe you're a little healthier
Speaker 2: like McLaurin missed half the year, I think, But Jade Daniels,
Speaker 2: he had several injuries. Uh, I don't see them doing
Speaker 2: much better than well, you said five wins last year.
Speaker 2: I'll give him six. I think it's going to be
Speaker 2: a big gap between Eagles, Cowboys, and Commanders.
Speaker 3: Seven and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a definite under for me. I mean they
Speaker 1: have wasn't that the worst defense in the league last year?
Speaker 1: It was the Er So, I mean, you can't imagine
Speaker 1: it gets that much better. Daniels has not a ton
Speaker 1: of weapons. We may just look at that one year.
Speaker 1: It is just a complete flu scout high. He got
Speaker 1: set back pretty bad with injuries last year. He himself
Speaker 1: had two or three different ones than your top receivers
Speaker 1: out for most of the year. But I just don't
Speaker 1: see him recovering and taking a big step For all
Speaker 1: the year they won all those games, they were very
Speaker 1: close a lot of them, you know, I mean, they
Speaker 1: had some crazy pull out wins at the end.
Speaker 2: A little bit of a surprise facture from him too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I find Washington to be a hard
Speaker 1: team to care about. Crazy because when.
Speaker 2: I was a kid.
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, Washington was one of the
Speaker 1: marquee franchises. Like a Washington down game. You stop the presses,
Speaker 1: which in and of itself is a day phrase. Actually
Speaker 1: stopped the presses with the yes no they did that
Speaker 1: used to mean something, Mario, do you know what that means?
Speaker 1: Stop the presses? So again he's well, they had newspaper
Speaker 1: presses where they would do the newspapers and if a
Speaker 1: big story came out, they need to change the newspaper.
Speaker 1: They would go stop the presses and then would go.
Speaker 2: Unplug it. Unplug it. Then you'd have to redo it.
Speaker 2: He's looking at me like, I'm now, you just edit
Speaker 2: your blog and then you're on Twitter.
Speaker 1: You're looking at me like, uh, like if somebody was
Speaker 1: trying to tell me about steamships or have you ever
Speaker 1: held a newspaper? Yeah, yes, that's how he packs when
Speaker 1: he moves from place to place. So we all were
Speaker 1: all taking the.
Speaker 2: Under under there for me, all right.
Speaker 1: Finally, the Giants Jackson Dark You've got second year for
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart. He's been making the rounds. Hollywood reporter said
Speaker 1: he was one of the twenty five talents in entertainment
Speaker 1: under twenty five, which I don't really consider him to
Speaker 1: be an entertainment. Does he take a big step up
Speaker 1: for year two? They lost Sexy Dexy to the Bengals.
Speaker 1: You know they had Harball that was excited about. But
Speaker 1: did you watch Harball's cringey speech about we're the New
Speaker 1: York fo All Giants.
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, nothing planned, but I know he's a great
Speaker 2: coach and that was a good hire. But I don't
Speaker 2: think he turns him around. In your one, I think
Speaker 2: they finished fourth in the standing.
Speaker 1: And ask you why Billy produced like a little mini
Speaker 1: preview force which was very nice. And you wrote Harball's
Speaker 1: first season is expected to be a thud and you
Speaker 1: put thud in quotation marks. Did you mean dud h.
Speaker 3: Well, thud dud. I think it kind of has the
Speaker 3: same message.
Speaker 2: Like hit, but it would mean like it hit with
Speaker 2: a thud.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is just kind of what I've seen around
Speaker 3: the league, what they've been saying. What do they say
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a thud? Of a season for the Giants.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that language used anywhere else.
Speaker 3: I'll stop the press put that in the.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean you think John Harbaugh?
Speaker 1: Second?
Speaker 2: Stop.
Speaker 1: You know some coaches continue the run, some drop off
Speaker 1: you have Mike McCarthy was a drop off Andy Reid
Speaker 1: though just as good better which one is John Harbaugh?
Speaker 2: He's still a good coach. I just I don't believe
Speaker 2: you know, Cam's had another year with money and he's
Speaker 2: probably gone out and done. God knows what he and
Speaker 2: Dart both got. I mean, they've earned their attention their
Speaker 2: rookie year. I think they got a little caught up
Speaker 2: in the celebrity. Well, there's gonna be a big fud
Speaker 2: coming for them.
Speaker 1: I mean, one thing to take up for scatter boat
Speaker 1: boot Scataboo scat of bow Boo Scataboo is that his
Speaker 1: shelf life is very whow like, he's got like three
Speaker 1: years left in him. And then I mean he remember
Speaker 1: Peyton Hillis, Oh yeah, he was on the cover of Madden.
Speaker 1: Scab will be in the UFC in four years? Yeah,
Speaker 1: where's Jackson? Dart is handsome New York. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: in our lives for a long time.
Speaker 2: See, I think he's gotten too caught up and I'm handsome.
Speaker 2: I'm in New York, los He thinks he's too handsome.
Speaker 2: He's like, where's where's the met Gala this year? I
Speaker 2: think it's at every place the same year.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: He's looking. He's trying to get into, you know, all
Speaker 2: the restaurants and who got too caught up in that
Speaker 2: rookie years success. You know, hopefully milnk Neighbors comes back healthy.
Speaker 3: But OBJ is back with the Giants.
Speaker 2: I mean I was looking here.
Speaker 1: They brought in, uh, they brought in some receivers, a
Speaker 1: tight end. You've got Calvin Austin, Isaiah live Likely. I
Speaker 1: mean they're trying, but they won four last year more
Speaker 1: more or less this year.
Speaker 2: So they're running back before. No, they're pretty beat up.
Speaker 2: Us jugging five.
Speaker 3: What's the over under seven and a half?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: They they mean, look at their schedule because warnings you
Speaker 1: have to look at here's the start of their season. Cowboys, Rams, Titans, Cardinals, Commanders, Saints, Texans, Eagles.
Speaker 1: I mean they that's not an easy start, right, I
Speaker 1: mean they don't play the really bad teams. They actually
Speaker 1: don't play a lot of really bad teams. Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: definitely taking an under. I didn't know they I would
Speaker 1: have thought it was six and a half. It's seven
Speaker 1: and a half.
Speaker 3: Seven and a half.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be all right, write that down. That is
Speaker 1: the Matt Jones first lock of the season win total.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm with you. Giants under you like that one? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I have. I'm two games under three.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we have our first lock. Put everything you
Speaker 1: got on that. By the way, I do think we're
Speaker 1: gonna do a fantasy team. Oh cool, So Paul has.
Speaker 2: Agreed to run it.
Speaker 1: All right, what Paul we're gonna do. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a live draft.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: It'll be scheduled for sometime in the last week of August.
Speaker 1: So if you would like to play, who, well, you're
Speaker 1: going you're about to get married, so we can't send
Speaker 1: it to you. I'll tell you what. Text Paul right now,
Speaker 1: ask for an email draft.
Speaker 2: Okay. All right, while we're.
Speaker 1: Doing this preview and before the show's over, I will
Speaker 1: give out the email dress if you want to play,
Speaker 1: but you will have to be available for the live draft.
Speaker 2: All right? Does that work? If you will we won
Speaker 2: this week. We'll figure it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ten or twelve is tell me what you want
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 1: Some people say fourteen.
Speaker 3: Fourteen's a little too much if you don't like working
Speaker 3: the waiver me.
Speaker 2: But I like the waiver wire.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, I don't think you want
Speaker 3: fourteen teams?
Speaker 2: I want?
Speaker 1: You don't tell me what I want?
Speaker 3: Fine, you're getting yourself into it.
Speaker 2: Do we not want fourteen? Do I want fourteen? Seems
Speaker 2: like a lot?
Speaker 1: Fine, we'll do twelve?
Speaker 3: Whiny bug going to try to get Calvin Austin on
Speaker 3: your team.
Speaker 1: If there will do twelve, three of them will be
Speaker 1: the three of us. Do we let Paul have a
Speaker 1: team all four? So we're picking eight teams? Okay, So,
Speaker 1: but you need to be able to come to the draft.
Speaker 1: Likely the draft will be sometime the last weekend of August,
Speaker 1: which is also when my part, so we may that
Speaker 1: might be that like that Sunday, August thirtieth, sometime that weekend.
Speaker 3: Okay, you want Standard scoring PPR.
Speaker 2: We have to decide today.
Speaker 3: I guess Paul will make this.
Speaker 1: Do we have I mean, we don't have to decide
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: Do we.
Speaker 3: I'm just gauging how excited you are for this league.
Speaker 3: I want it to be very in super flex two quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: I want to flex your face.
Speaker 1: I mean, were such your team name?
Speaker 2: What flex your face? Flex? Flex your face?
Speaker 1: No, I mean we're gonna have like all the bells
Speaker 1: and whist okay, might make it, uh, but we hopefully
Speaker 1: we set a group.
Speaker 2: Maybe we stay together for a few years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the that.
Speaker 1: So you gotta make your case. I want to have
Speaker 1: like a diverse group. If there's a woman that wants
Speaker 1: to play, that would be nice just for you know,
Speaker 1: and then so you so we're right, Paul's gonna give
Speaker 1: you an email address whenever whenever Drew gets it. Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: all right, good, all right, let's go to the NFC
Speaker 1: South Wide Open.
Speaker 2: All four teams. I think all four teams.
Speaker 3: Have a shot.
Speaker 2: I guess they have a shot. None of them finished
Speaker 2: above five hundred last year, So it's anyone's game.
Speaker 1: This is the division you follow the most because of
Speaker 1: your box. We'll let you go.
Speaker 2: Who are you going first?
Speaker 3: You know, the Panthers seem to be on an upward
Speaker 3: trajectory for sure.
Speaker 1: Last year three teams finished eight nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well Tampa lost nine of their last eleven games to
Speaker 3: lose to the division. So I really I don't know
Speaker 3: how to feel about Tampa this year. You know, we'll
Speaker 3: talk a lot about Baker Mayfield maybe later in the
Speaker 3: news in some comments he made. But it feels like
Speaker 3: Carolina is starting to take the torch.
Speaker 1: You're gonna take Carolina. Yeah, what's the over under on wins?
Speaker 3: Carolina's over under is right here in front of me,
Speaker 3: sitting at the number seven and a half.
Speaker 1: Okay, so who got the first play schedule because they
Speaker 1: all tied. Yeah, all right, seven and a half. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take the over. I still believe in him. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is really the Bryce Young yes or no? Right, like,
Speaker 1: that's what this is. He We will decide yes or
Speaker 1: no on Bryce Young this year. Are you at yes
Speaker 1: or you at no?
Speaker 2: Well, tiptoe into yes category. I agree. You know he's
Speaker 2: coming up. He'll need an extension. They'll have to make
Speaker 2: a decision on if he's the future. They'll probably go
Speaker 2: back to the draft. Part of it is just because
Speaker 2: he was so nice to us at the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: one of the nicer people we interviewed. So I'm already
Speaker 2: on his team when we got behind the Panthers last year.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna believe in him to at least lead
Speaker 2: them to a repeat division champion.
Speaker 3: You know, can they capture the magic of Carolina Mike again?
Speaker 3: Can they have a podcast?
Speaker 2: Okay, we need to talk about Carol Mi.
Speaker 1: So Carolina Mike love his song, love everything about it.
Speaker 1: You got to a second hit. I've heard him sing
Speaker 1: some version of that song one hundred and fifty times.
Speaker 1: I give him credit. He got to the ACC Tournament,
Speaker 1: he did wait for he did it at the Panthers game.
Speaker 1: But we got to get it. We there's gotta be
Speaker 1: a Tegon already. But there's got to be a second
Speaker 1: song in him, Like I you can't just keep going.
Speaker 1: You can't be like tag Team and you had womp,
Speaker 1: there it is and then womp, there's an Adams. So
Speaker 1: give us a second song, Carolina mic and I'll be
Speaker 1: I'll be proud of you.
Speaker 2: I think you can ride this in another four or
Speaker 2: five years. You just named all the places that got
Speaker 2: him already. Why why divert from what's working?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean he does it about everything. He'll
Speaker 1: be like, what is one hundred and fifty thousand. If
Speaker 1: I had one hundred and fifty thousand, I'd buy Dairy Queen.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, it's pretty awesome.
Speaker 2: Got a great formula going. He was an accountant and
Speaker 2: then makes it probably still in the count. I don't
Speaker 2: think he's I would suggest he keep that job. I
Speaker 2: think he waits. And if they make the playoffs again,
Speaker 2: then you debut a new song for the Super Bowl run.
Speaker 2: You know I'm taking over. I'm taking over. So speaking
Speaker 2: of over, speak of the playoffs. They had the Rams
Speaker 2: beat last year in the first round as a huge
Speaker 2: They were like the biggest underdog in playoff history. And
Speaker 2: then we're leading them like a minute left. Remember the
Speaker 2: Rams had to come back to Scorts.
Speaker 1: People forget it.
Speaker 2: So they ended on a decent note for their standards.
Speaker 1: They opened the season. It's interesting to see the start
Speaker 1: of their season. They open their season with the Bears,
Speaker 1: then the Falcons and the Browns, so like, you know
Speaker 1: you can win those, But then they go Lions, Eagles, Bucks, Packers, Broncos.
Speaker 1: Tough stretch, tough stretch that Bears game. Though, if they
Speaker 1: could somehow win it there at home, you know it's
Speaker 1: it's possible.
Speaker 2: I don't know if the Bryce is ever going to
Speaker 2: be a top ten or even fifteen guy. Can he
Speaker 2: get to be as good as Baker?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. Who would you take Baker
Speaker 3: or Bryce Young this next season?
Speaker 1: This season, Yes, I'll take Baker. Yeah, but if you're
Speaker 1: asking me can Baker? Can Bryce become Baker? I don't
Speaker 1: see why I couldn't. I think he could become that good.
Speaker 2: His size will always be working against him. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: Baker's not the biggest dude in the world. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: went to a Panthers game in person, and it is
Speaker 2: truly unbelievable. How that's the size of starting quarterback when
Speaker 2: you see him. I mean we stood next to him
Speaker 2: in San Francisco. Not a big guy. That's never going
Speaker 2: to change.
Speaker 3: Remember the Panthers had Baker running defensive drills when he
Speaker 3: was at training camp with them. Sam Darnold and Baker
Speaker 3: Mayfield Carolina Panthers before Bryce Young took over.
Speaker 2: That is an interesting state.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's go to your Tampa Bay Bucks.
Speaker 1: What do I need to know?
Speaker 3: Mike Evans is gone. It's sad, sad day. That's all
Speaker 3: I need to Well, I mean there's more than that.
Speaker 1: What about Baker?
Speaker 2: He wants a lot of money, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this was part of like the news I
Speaker 3: was going to do late, Let's do it right now. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So he is disrespected, Matt. He feels undervalued with the
Speaker 3: contract offer that Tampa gave him.
Speaker 2: Are they offered him like fifty million dollars? And what
Speaker 2: does he want? Well?
Speaker 3: He averages thirty three million per season right now in
Speaker 3: his current contract. He's thirty one years old. He was
Speaker 3: offered two year deal worth over one hundred million, but
Speaker 3: he felt that the guaranteed money was low and he
Speaker 3: wanted longer than two years. So old is he thirty one?
Speaker 1: See, that's the thing is in my mind he's older
Speaker 1: than that. But he's not. I mean, he's thirty one
Speaker 1: years old, So that's not like he's got on paper
Speaker 1: four to five more years of really productive football. But
Speaker 1: you don't think about it like that with him, at
Speaker 1: least I don't. Yeah, I don't know. I Mean the
Speaker 1: problem with Baker Mayfield is I don't think you can
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl with Baker Mayfield. So I don't
Speaker 1: think you can pay him sixty five million dollars or whatever,
Speaker 1: because I think if you do, he's not at that level.
Speaker 1: At the same time, you're not gonna be able to
Speaker 1: get somebody better than him. So he's in that zone
Speaker 1: that just hurts you, where it's just good enough that
Speaker 1: you need him, but good enough that he can win
Speaker 1: it for you. And I think that's a terrible zone
Speaker 1: to be in, and I kind of think that's where
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 2: And his timeline last year was backwards. He was an
Speaker 2: MVP candidate for like six or seven weeks and then
Speaker 2: just throwing all kinds of interceptions towards the end of
Speaker 2: the year. And now we'll see how much how helpful
Speaker 2: was it having Mike Evans.
Speaker 1: So he didn't want the two years fifty million. He's
Speaker 1: going to play on the thirty three million and bet
Speaker 1: on himself.
Speaker 3: Which if we're finding one positive of this, I think
Speaker 3: he plays is better with a chip on his shoulder.
Speaker 3: And if he feels it's.
Speaker 1: Like seventeen million dollars, I mean he's getting he could get.
Speaker 1: He could get seventeen million dollars more than he has
Speaker 1: now for this year and then fifty next year. So
Speaker 1: it's a sixty seven million dollar gamble. Would you do that?
Speaker 1: If you were Baker? Do you think it will pay off?
Speaker 1: Do you think next year he will get a deal
Speaker 1: that will in the long run, because in order for
Speaker 1: it to be valuable, his deal next year is going
Speaker 1: to have to make up the seventy million he did
Speaker 1: not get, get at least fifty next year and then
Speaker 1: presumably go longer. I mean, do you think that would
Speaker 1: end up working out?
Speaker 2: I have my doubts. I kind of do too. He's
Speaker 2: lucky being in the NFC South. If you're gonna better
Speaker 2: on yourself, playing against the Panthers, Falcons and Saints right
Speaker 2: now is a decent path to get you enough wins
Speaker 2: and look good enough. But I still think his first
Speaker 2: year without Evans, I mean, they have a I don't
Speaker 2: know that off the top of my head, but they
Speaker 2: have a pretty big losing record when Mike Evans was out.
Speaker 2: I think it's just a lot to ask for him
Speaker 2: to make a jump that big and get paid well.
Speaker 3: He deserves it, if anybody does. I mean, he replaced you, Brady,
Speaker 3: I would, and there are over ten quarterbacks that make
Speaker 3: I believe that kind of money at the quarterback spot,
Speaker 3: so it wouldn't be unprecedented for him to get that.
Speaker 1: Okay, But isn't he about the tenth or eleventh quarterback?
Speaker 3: I would agree with that.
Speaker 1: So if there's over ten, I mean that's probably what they'
Speaker 1: should were on the line. Yeah, I mean I kind
Speaker 1: of think that's what he's worth. All Right, what's not
Speaker 1: Let's go with the Falcons eight and nine. We're gonna
Speaker 1: see what is this finally gonna be Michael Pinnock's junior.
Speaker 1: But we also have Tua one of the quarterback battles,
Speaker 1: probably two of the favorite.
Speaker 2: One would think, what a great spot for quarterback. We
Speaker 2: have Bjeon Robinson, Drake Lonon and okay, the highest paid
Speaker 2: running back, but I still don't think they have a quarterback.
Speaker 2: I don't think you go get to if you don't
Speaker 2: believe in Pinnick and always coming off an injury, they
Speaker 2: clearly don't believe in Pinnick.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in either one because two is also
Speaker 1: not a I mean, he's an injury concerned. So if
Speaker 1: you if you believe in Pinnicks, you want someone who's
Speaker 1: a stable backup to go get another guy like that
Speaker 1: means you don't believe any and you can't really believe
Speaker 1: in Tua. Tua and looked good in the last two seasons,
Speaker 1: so I just it's hard. But Bjeon Robinson's great. I mean,
Speaker 1: I could see the Falcons winning seven or eight again,
Speaker 1: but I don't see them being a lot better than that.
Speaker 2: If either of those guys who ever has the jobs
Speaker 2: just decent. I mean, you're loaded with playmakers, but I
Speaker 2: don't think I don't think they have a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Well we see a good two a year.
Speaker 2: Again, I'm afraid it's over part of it. He signed
Speaker 2: a big deal I think two years ago and had
Speaker 2: looked right since. Of course we all know the injury
Speaker 2: situation where he keeps getting his head rocked. So I
Speaker 2: think he's on a quick decline.
Speaker 1: You don't think they'll be a good two three years
Speaker 1: we'll have.
Speaker 2: We'll have to throw your eyes at that. Mario.
Speaker 1: I sat there, I came up with it, tried to think, Okay,
Speaker 1: how do you work it in.
Speaker 2: We'll have three good games that he plays in a season.
Speaker 2: But as far as him being a franchise quarterback, that's
Speaker 2: behind it. What's the overender for.
Speaker 3: The Atlanta Falcons, the team we're just talking about right.
Speaker 4: Now, that you don't have head coach over six and
Speaker 4: a half because I think they're going to be like
Speaker 4: right at that line, and they won what eight last year?
Speaker 1: I don't see any reason to think they'll be worse
Speaker 1: than they were last year. So yeah, give me the over,
Speaker 1: I'll go under.
Speaker 3: I'll go under.
Speaker 2: I'm a hater, all right, Let's go to the Saints.
Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck. You talk about a quarterback. He had a
Speaker 2: winning record for the Saints last year.
Speaker 1: And what's I I'm not even sure what.
Speaker 3: He looks like like.
Speaker 1: If Tyler Schuck walked in here, he'd have to have
Speaker 1: a shirt on that says shuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah for me, I would need his jersey on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I I there's no quarterback that I'm
Speaker 1: less aware of. I can't watch Saints games. I've talked
Speaker 1: about this. They make me sad. They need to have
Speaker 1: more lights.
Speaker 3: In the Dome.
Speaker 1: It's so dark in that stadium. It just feels like
Speaker 1: I'm watching like a game from nineteen eighty seven, and
Speaker 1: it just makes me.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just I think it's really a
Speaker 2: lighting issue.
Speaker 3: What's he over under for the Saints? It's seven and
Speaker 3: a half, and remember they started two and ten last year,
Speaker 3: ended six and eleven. It was a heck of a run.
Speaker 2: So they're seven and a half and the Falcons are
Speaker 2: six and a half.
Speaker 3: That is the number. Yes, that's weird to me.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think you can't go both over,
Speaker 2: so you're gonna go both under. Somebody's got to win
Speaker 2: these games in this division. Well, I'm believing in the Panthers.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna go under. I feel like they should
Speaker 1: have the same number, So I'm gonna go under.
Speaker 3: What about you, I'm gonna go over expecting a little
Speaker 3: bit of a drop off from my Bucks. I think
Speaker 3: they ended well and they'll they'll pleasure.
Speaker 1: You are believing in the Saints, not believing.
Speaker 2: In the Bucks?
Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, there's your NFC East and NFC South.
Speaker 1: Next week we will do the rest of the NFC
Speaker 1: the West and my North. That will be without Billy,
Speaker 1: but Drew and I will be ready to roll with that.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So I guess now we gotta know what's happening in
Speaker 1: the world. Give me some news.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to gauge your guys's excitement level for
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame game Thursday at eight. PA, can't Ohio,
Speaker 3: We've got our quarterback match up. It will be Kenny
Speaker 3: Pickett versus Carson Beck.
Speaker 2: Thank god.
Speaker 3: Actually, Gardner Minshew might play some time behind Carson Beck
Speaker 3: for the Arizona Cardinals. But the debut of Mike Lafleur
Speaker 3: for the Arizona Cardinals. We did get the news Jeremiah
Speaker 3: Love will not be playing in this game. The third overall, Oh.
Speaker 2: This is sad.
Speaker 1: So you're saying it's Caroline Arizona, Kenny pick It versus
Speaker 1: Carson Beck.
Speaker 2: Who plays for which team? Carson Back's future of Arizona.
Speaker 2: That's right, he's turning.
Speaker 1: Head Get out here, Jakobe Brissett. It's Carson Beck town.
Speaker 1: People are saying he's turning heads. Who are these people?
Speaker 1: People who had their heads turned?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: People, I mean cramp camp hasn't been going on that long.
Speaker 1: How many heads gonna be turning?
Speaker 2: Also, didn't he date a Cavender? He did?
Speaker 1: He went to Miami for cause. Wow, the Cavenders just
Speaker 1: keep coming up. Good publicity for them because I feel
Speaker 1: like they they had a shot to pass Alex Earle
Speaker 1: and then it didn't happen. Nowlex Earl has far out
Speaker 1: left them. I don't think we would have two Cavender
Speaker 1: references on our NFC.
Speaker 2: Mack is a guy who on papers should be an
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback, but it just never quite.
Speaker 1: Teams have had success, and yet no one gives him
Speaker 1: any credit for it. I mean, Miami got to what
Speaker 1: is the jeams him? Who did Indian? Yeah they be.
Speaker 3: Miami and the champion has a chance to throw the
Speaker 3: last pass of the college football season in the first
Speaker 3: pass of the NFL season.
Speaker 2: Look at that fun fact. That is a fun fact.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that online. I can't take four.
Speaker 2: What a fun fact.
Speaker 1: But I mean Carson Beck is amazingly disrespected, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: Georgia one with him. He leaves, George is not as good,
Speaker 1: goes to Miami, they win, and yet I can.
Speaker 2: See why he would turn heads, especially if the competition
Speaker 2: is Jacoby Brissett.
Speaker 1: I like Jacoby Brissette too. Everywhere you know what Jacoby
Speaker 1: Brissett is, Like Penn Station. Can these other sandwiches that
Speaker 1: companies can come and go, but you know what you're
Speaker 1: getting at Penn Station. You walk in, Penn Station gives
Speaker 1: you solid value. That's Jacoby Brissett handcut fro us. Everybody
Speaker 1: else comes and goes. Jacoby's right there. I'm the thirty
Speaker 1: ninth best quarterback in the league, thirty three years old.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a long career for Jacoby. Just cashing
Speaker 2: NFL checks good for him.
Speaker 3: And a reminder it's Panthers Cardinals because both teams have
Speaker 3: a player being inducted into the Hall of Fame this
Speaker 3: that weekend.
Speaker 2: So is this also?
Speaker 1: I can't remember that this is where they also picked
Speaker 1: When do they pick the Hall of Famers for next
Speaker 1: year at the Super Bowl? When when do they do that?
Speaker 3: I don't think they do that yet because.
Speaker 1: It's always a weird thing. They make them all go
Speaker 1: sit in a hotel or something, and then some of
Speaker 1: them get a knock and the rest of them get
Speaker 1: told to go home. Sounds like a dating game.
Speaker 2: But if you notice that, like they're all sitting in
Speaker 2: a hotel, and then it'll be like, I know, sure.
Speaker 3: They have the guy that does it. He's very famous.
Speaker 2: He is very famous. They just put him on in
Speaker 2: the hallway, and there's.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a different sport, one of these sports. They
Speaker 1: put them all in a hotel and then some of
Speaker 1: them get a knock and the others just get told
Speaker 1: to go home.
Speaker 3: I've seen him at home in the NFL one. So
Speaker 3: I'm not sure the.
Speaker 2: NFL is big on doing surprises. I have like a
Speaker 2: former teammate like Jimmy Johnson. Okay, so it must be
Speaker 2: a different I know I have seen a sporting maybe
Speaker 2: love is blonde, love his mind. They have a sport
Speaker 2: where they fly every buddy out and everyone sits in
Speaker 2: a hotel room and some people get an aug the
Speaker 2: other people get told see you next year. That's that
Speaker 2: mister Beast Beast game show.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Larry Fitzgerald, Luke Keikley, Drew Brees, Audavititarry and
Speaker 3: Roger Craig are the five guys getting enshrined weekend, Big Game.
Speaker 2: Big after saving the Super Bowl rematch for Week one.
Speaker 2: But this is a good teaser for week one preseason.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 3: Let's talk a little money. We talked about Falcons running
Speaker 3: back Bejon Robinson signing a three year, seventy five million
Speaker 3: dollar contract extension, making him the highest paid running back
Speaker 3: in NFL history, with a record fifty one million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 3: But this shows you how devalued the running back position is.
Speaker 3: Ravens wide receivers A Flowers got a four year one
Speaker 3: hundred and forty million dollars contract extension with one hundred
Speaker 3: and eight million guaranteed. His thirty five million per year
Speaker 3: makes him the fourth highest paid receiver in the NFL
Speaker 3: right now, So.
Speaker 1: Part of me wonders if we've gone too far in
Speaker 1: the other direction, where the running back position was so
Speaker 1: overvalued that now it's undervalue. And I think the be
Speaker 1: Jean Robinson contract showcases that they'd gotten the point that
Speaker 1: people were just like, well, you can have anybody, and
Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. I think there are five
Speaker 1: or six guys that are just better than everybody else,
Speaker 1: and you know, think about it. You get the ball more, right,
Speaker 1: he catches the ball too, he's both, so I it's high.
Speaker 1: But when your quarterbacks are too, and Michael Pennix, then
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. I don't think you could pay
Speaker 1: that kind of money to Patrick Mahomes running back, right,
Speaker 1: that wouldn't work. But on that team, I think it
Speaker 1: makes some sense. And say Flowers contract to me a
Speaker 1: lot crazier because I just don't see him as one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty million dollar receiver.
Speaker 2: But you know, Bijean, I understood he had almost twenty
Speaker 2: five hundred yards.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money. I mean, that's a lot
Speaker 1: of money to pay a running back. Like the league
Speaker 1: had gone away from that, and I think Saquon Barkley
Speaker 1: and Derek Henry like kind of convinced him, Okay, you
Speaker 1: can still do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still really young. He's only been in the
Speaker 2: league two or three years. I like that. When the
Speaker 2: Zave Flowers one, I couldn't believe he's now the fourth
Speaker 2: highest paid receiver. He's never had more than five touchdowns
Speaker 2: in a season. I know that because last year I
Speaker 2: bet him on anytime touchdown almost every week, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: can this guy not get in the end zone? But
Speaker 2: he got his bag, he did get his back. But
Speaker 2: would you call him the fourth best receiver in the NFL?
Speaker 1: No, not at all. Yeah, So that one isn't overpay Bijon.
Speaker 1: Probably a slight overpay, but considering the team and the circumstance,
Speaker 1: actually think it's it makes some sense.
Speaker 2: What's next? All right?
Speaker 3: What's next is that JJ Watt has been tapped to
Speaker 3: replace Romo in the CBS booth alongside Jim Nance and
Speaker 3: Tracy Wolfson. After twelve seasons in the NFL, JJ recently
Speaker 3: took over for Charles Davis along said Iron Eagle as
Speaker 3: the second broadcast team for CBS, but it was announced
Speaker 3: that Tony would be taking a leave or was placed
Speaker 3: on leave until further notice by CBS after the actions
Speaker 3: of this past week.
Speaker 2: JJ was great right away. Like Brady and even Romo,
Speaker 2: they need a little time meet their footing under him.
Speaker 2: I oddly, I feel like he had it even though
Speaker 2: he was number two team. I feel like that he
Speaker 2: and Iro and Eagle were on a lot of Titans games,
Speaker 2: so I heard those two a lot last year, and
Speaker 2: he was just good from the minute he started. So
Speaker 2: I think Tony's in trouble here for that having that
Speaker 2: number one spot Tojy's not given that up because he's
Speaker 2: too good.
Speaker 1: And what's interesting is you have this scenario where I
Speaker 1: actually think Tom Brady has improved a lot.
Speaker 2: Right, what's the name.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about a couple of quarterbacks here. Titans quarterback
Speaker 3: Will Levis had some interesting words in the media recent
Speaker 3: I Will he said he is one hundred percent a
Speaker 3: starting quarterback in the NFL. Quote, there are not thirty
Speaker 3: two quarterbacks in this league better than me. I know.
Speaker 3: I've put the tape out there already and that I'm
Speaker 3: a dang good quarterback in.
Speaker 2: The dang good Do you think you gotta believe that
Speaker 2: if you're him, right, you don't want to be like,
Speaker 2: there are forty nine quarterbacks better than me. I'm fifty.
Speaker 1: You gotta say I'm one of the best thirty two,
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's I don't know if he is.
Speaker 1: I think he probably isn't, but I don't think that's
Speaker 1: a crazy thing to say that, Like he could be.
Speaker 2: Maybe, well, you could put him I'm not ready to
Speaker 2: say he's top thirty two, but you could put him
Speaker 2: in the room with Jacoby Brissette and Carson Beck and
Speaker 2: he could win that job. He could win it over
Speaker 2: two in Pinnix. Well, I'm just saying those guys' Chador
Speaker 2: and DeShawn. Yeah, there's certain qv rooms he would fight
Speaker 2: for a job in. I don't know that he would
Speaker 2: win it.
Speaker 1: Cam Wharton may end up getting hurt at some point
Speaker 1: and Will Levis will play and he'll get a chance
Speaker 1: to show it. People don't like guys who haven't done
Speaker 1: anything who talk, especially when he did play and it
Speaker 1: didn't go great.
Speaker 2: I maintaining the operation around him, No one would have
Speaker 2: succeeded on that team that.
Speaker 1: You're he'll get a chance. I mean he's on the
Speaker 1: Titans this year. He's gonna get a chance. And if
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out there, he'll get another chance. I mean,
Speaker 1: guys that get picked at that level, someone will give
Speaker 1: them a shot. So if he is one of the
Speaker 1: best thirty two. But it is kind of a cringey like,
Speaker 1: but he's our guy. He's a Kentucky dude.
Speaker 2: Will he be a starter in the NFL again, Aleen Know,
Speaker 2: even though I think a team would be smart to
Speaker 2: had him, to let him compete be a full time starter,
Speaker 2: I'll still say no. But I think I think he's
Speaker 2: much better than he gets credit for.
Speaker 1: You know what, I think his peak career could look
Speaker 1: like Jacoby Brissett. You know somebody like that who's like
Speaker 1: always like the second string guy, but if you need
Speaker 1: him to play, he can play. I think will if
Speaker 1: he can reach his max potential, that could be what
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're quarterbacks all over the league who have to
Speaker 2: come in and play because of injuries or other circumstances
Speaker 2: where I'd have him way above them as a second
Speaker 2: Q be Marcus Mariota played a bunch of games last
Speaker 2: year for the Commanders. I'd really have Levis in my
Speaker 2: in my room. That a lot of guys already out
Speaker 2: there another quarterback? Are you guys out on? Justin Herbert after.
Speaker 3: What was seen at training camp the other day with
Speaker 3: his fiance Madison.
Speaker 1: Beer, I saw the gut engaged. What did he do
Speaker 1: at training camp?
Speaker 3: Well, during the family period of the training camp, they
Speaker 3: were sitting criss cross apple sauce on the field as
Speaker 3: Madison fondled his hair.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm for it. I love having my hair fondled. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, like that's one of the better feelings in life,
Speaker 1: Like if if somebody puts their hand like through the edges, because.
Speaker 2: But dark like sit on the side. You have a
Speaker 2: lot of like censors.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 1: Like like where your hairline is, like like right here,
Speaker 1: like is one of the best.
Speaker 2: Like you're more.
Speaker 1: Sensitive around your hairline than almost anywhere. So when someone
Speaker 1: like rubs you like that, m m oh yeah. But
Speaker 1: you know what, they're both good looking, they're engaged. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take up for the hair rub.
Speaker 3: I need a clip of that hair rub part Mario
Speaker 3: and make sure we get that on social.
Speaker 2: Just like I could see Jay Daniels doing this with
Speaker 2: his mom in Washington.
Speaker 3: One final news note, we touched on it a little bit.
Speaker 3: Hard Knocks started its twenty seventh season this week. It's
Speaker 3: the first episode of five with the defending Super Bowl champs.
Speaker 3: It's the first time they've done that, the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 3: Some highlights from the first episode. Sam Darnell dropped his
Speaker 3: Super Bowl ring from the box to start the show.
Speaker 3: You also had a lot of dropped it like he
Speaker 3: dropped the ring when he got it on the ground.
Speaker 2: That's a hot light.
Speaker 3: A lot of cussing. Running backs coach Thomas Hammock takes
Speaker 3: the mature rating on the HBO show. But it is
Speaker 3: Mike McDonald's third season with the Seattle Seahawks and he's
Speaker 3: been the star of the show.
Speaker 1: I love this show. The best moments in the history
Speaker 1: of Hard Knocks. Here's just a couple come to my mind.
Speaker 1: When that one rookie made fun of Shane Shandon show
Speaker 1: yeah imperson.
Speaker 2: And he was like, yeah, I like that one.
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell giving them Metallica speech, uhh. When you look
Speaker 1: into the soul of the Byss, the abyss looks into you.
Speaker 2: Really, the whole Ravens one was great that year with
Speaker 2: all those guys. What else am I missing? There were?
Speaker 1: There were the other guy and the cowboys that sang.
Speaker 2: Always liked when they either have to do the sing
Speaker 2: or I'm the guy who thought he was a really
Speaker 2: good singer and like he was trying like they he
Speaker 2: was like trying to get his music career going. I
Speaker 2: like the when they have to say they're signing bonus
Speaker 2: because like the quarterback, you know, the whole crowd goes
Speaker 2: crazy for them. Yeah, there's a one year and I
Speaker 2: don't want to say Antonio COMARTI couldn't name his kids,
Speaker 2: but I remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are all good. I'm trying to think there
Speaker 1: are I know there are others.
Speaker 3: Vince Wilfork's overalls.
Speaker 1: I do you remember Miss swell Fork's overalls?
Speaker 2: That's right?
Speaker 1: Was that also when Rex Ryan noted his foot fetish
Speaker 1: was on Hard Knocks or he joked about it.
Speaker 3: I don't know the origin of the That's.
Speaker 1: Also when I learned of Rex Ryan's brother was on
Speaker 1: one of those shows.
Speaker 2: But Jetsman was really funny that a bunch of personalities
Speaker 2: like Quinn Williams was great on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a great show. I can't ever get.
Speaker 2: Into the end season one for whatever reason. I mean,
Speaker 2: but I've also there's so many people have copycated now
Speaker 2: and they're good. But like I'm watching that Quarterbacks on Netflix. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying, there's so many of spawn from that,
Speaker 2: it's hard to keep up with all of them.
Speaker 1: I'm a one. I'm I'm loyal to my woman of
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks. I think it's the best. I love the music.
Speaker 2: If they were to ever change that, just cancel. This
Speaker 2: is the one guy still narrating Liz Shrever. I saw
Speaker 2: him on the street once in New York. He was
Speaker 2: hosting Satay out Live that week and I saw him
Speaker 2: and I so wanted to just I was like, I
Speaker 2: should go talk to you, And then I wrote, what
Speaker 2: am I gonna say?
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks because like, to me, that's what he is.
Speaker 2: Like what else he's been and some show where he's
Speaker 2: like Reacher or Ray Donovan Ray Donovan. Yeah, he's been
Speaker 2: in big stuff. But you know, people admire most for
Speaker 2: Hard Knocks. I just love his voice and the.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one year Paul Rudd was the narrator just
Speaker 3: didn't hit the same.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that. Well, you gotta get the shriver
Speaker 2: driver anyway. Uh.
Speaker 1: Well, Billy who's on here is getting married. Yes, congratulations
Speaker 1: on Saturday. Uh send your cover zero gifts. I've already
Speaker 1: gotten the fish batchela, so don't worry. Uh you can't.
Speaker 1: You don't have to get that.
Speaker 3: And Tate Rattler's jersey would be coming for my gift in.
Speaker 2: The bottle of wine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of stuff still coming. Yea mail slow nowadays.
Speaker 1: I don't know why that is. But congratulates, Thank you,
Speaker 1: And if you would like, do we have an email
Speaker 1: address for the show?
Speaker 3: I texted him to it. I didn't get one.
Speaker 1: Oh it next week. By next week we'll have it.
Speaker 1: So be preparing to If you would like to be
Speaker 1: in the Fantasy Football League again, you have to show
Speaker 1: up at the draft in Kentucky. And honestly, the farther
Speaker 1: away you are if you commit to coming, the more
Speaker 1: likely we are to put you in it. Like if
Speaker 1: you're like getting Buffalo, I don't know why you would
Speaker 1: do this until Ron get in here. Yeah, we'd be
Speaker 1: got Carolina, Mike.
Speaker 2: We should have just had a celebrity could have gotten
Speaker 2: the brown spider Carolana Mike, Well, I would do it.
Speaker 1: Now we're doing a lot. I've always wanted to do
Speaker 1: a live draft. I've never done a live draft. That's
Speaker 1: That's kind of partially.
Speaker 3: Why I'll be over it by round five. I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Don't tell me what I'll do.
Speaker 1: Wow, it does take speaking of it, sudn't take a
Speaker 1: while if you do it right, strict time enforcement.
Speaker 2: All right, let's see you like.
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