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Speaker 1: correspondent John McLain general. I saw that. I thought you retired.

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Speaker 1: And I'm doing all my talk shows. Everybody wants to

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas, General, what's what's your game of choice? Your blackjack,

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans, Mark Vandameron John Harris with you. Great to

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Speaker 1: have you listening tonight, Johnny, You ready for Who's better?

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Speaker 1: I am? Let's go, all right. The first one is

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Speaker 1: who feels better? This is about feelings nothing more. I'll

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Speaker 1: stop singing, all right. Who feels better? The Jets about

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00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson or the Texans about Davis Mills, all things considered?

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Speaker 1: And you know what I mean by that first round

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Speaker 1: pick versus third round pick, versus state of the friend

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Speaker 1: sis versus state of the franchise? Who feels better? Johnny?

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00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: I think Texans too. There's a lot of stress and

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Speaker 1: pressure on Zach Wilson this season. Now, I do think

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Speaker 1: Zach's gonna gonna pan out for the Jets. Now, will

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Speaker 1: he be uh? You know, kenn O'Brien re and Carnet, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna get to maybe that level.

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Speaker 1: But it's a big year for Zach Wilson. And in

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Speaker 1: the mock draft, I have come and they're they're adding

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Speaker 1: Jamison Williams alongside Braxton Barrios, Elijah Moore, and Corey Davis.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna help him. I mean they're putting assets around.

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Speaker 1: They drafted Elijah bear Tucker last year. They already had

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Speaker 1: McKay Beckton, They signed Lake and Tomlinson at the other

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Speaker 1: guards spot. I mean, that's three bona fides right there

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Speaker 1: in the offensive line. You add in a Jamison Williams,

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Speaker 1: you give him another weapon. Now there are no excuses.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of pressure on Zach Wilson. It's not

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Speaker 1: as much pressure pressure on Davis Mills at least third rounder.

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Speaker 1: You know, let's see what he does. But I think

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Speaker 1: the Texans feel good about what they saw down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the Jets felt that good or

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Speaker 1: felt that great. I feel like you look around and

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Speaker 1: we said it's a million times. Don't think Davis over

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Speaker 1: the last four or five games stamped himself as the

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Speaker 1: face of the franchise for the next decade. But he

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Speaker 1: certainly played well down to stretch. The game seemed to

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Speaker 1: slow down. He's talked about that. He talked about that

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00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: with US games slowed down and hopefully that continues to

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Speaker 1: because you got a third round pick and it pans out.

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Speaker 1: He's not playing with house money and the Texans aren't

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Speaker 1: playing with house money. But it sure feels a whole

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Speaker 1: lot closer to that than what the Jets are. That's

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Speaker 1: a number two overall pick that's got to work out

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Speaker 1: in New York. It's got to work out York. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of stress and pressure there. So I think

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Speaker 1: the Jets, like Zach Wilson, appreciate it, but there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of pressure on him, man. I mean, if doesn't

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Speaker 1: have a good year and looks like he's not the guy,

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00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: all right, you draft one next year. If Wilson doesn't

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Speaker 1: have a good year, it looks like he's not the guy.

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Speaker 1: Rut Row, that's big trouble in the Big Apple. So

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Speaker 1: I think in that way, maybe you do feel better

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Speaker 1: if the Jets go after Samuel. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: that says. Does that say, oh my gosh, we're desperate

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Speaker 1: to put talent around him, or we feel really comfortable

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Speaker 1: with him. Either way, they need to put talent around him.

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Speaker 1: I get it. He's the number two overall pick from

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Speaker 1: a year ago. Johnny, who's better Deebo, Samuel or any

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Speaker 1: receiver you could get in the top ten. So go ahead,

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Speaker 1: pick a guy, pick pick your top receiving prospect in

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Speaker 1: this draft, or Debo, and keep in mind to get

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Speaker 1: Debo whoever you are, the Jets, whoever you've got to pick,

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00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: or you have to give up multiple picks to get him.

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Speaker 1: You gotta give up a lot to get Debo. It's

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Speaker 1: not like one pick getsn't done. As the general is

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Speaker 1: pointing out him segment number one tonight, Well that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a that's the part, you know. It's funny. I

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Speaker 1: think back to the UH when all the trade talker

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Speaker 1: was going on with the Sean and there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of Miami fans saying, well, we don't we don't

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Speaker 1: want to Sean. We should just roll with two, we

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Speaker 1: should just roll with TWA. And that was I heard

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Speaker 1: somebody say they think Deshaun's better than two. It's like,

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Speaker 1: no Tua and the four or five picks you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to give up, that's a pretty uh, that's a

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Speaker 1: pretty harsh price to pay UH for for Shaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: So it's like you have to compare the right things here.

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Speaker 1: Jameson Williams and Crystal Lave are. I think they're two

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Speaker 1: my top four. The Laves number one to me. I

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Speaker 1: love a lave I've been a big fan of his

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Speaker 1: for the last I mean say, his an entire career.

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Speaker 1: I just I just love his I love his game.

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Speaker 1: I love his unselfishness. The guy blocked upon it Indiana

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Speaker 1: and a drive later, uh he was. He was catching

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Speaker 1: a bomb for a touchdown in the same game. So

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Speaker 1: he's he's amazing. But like he said, to give up

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Speaker 1: additional draft capital and Christal lava Or and Jamison Williams

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Speaker 1: to get Deebo Samuel. That's where it's yeah, man, that's

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Speaker 1: oh boy. Now straight up player on player. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's any question debos that guy. I love Debo

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Speaker 1: coming out of coming out of South Carolina watching the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and he was about the only guy that

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Speaker 1: I remember not not jammable. Senior Bowl guys are just

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Speaker 1: press man and they're just I mean, they're they're locking

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Speaker 1: up guys. Deebo sam is one guy that never got

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Speaker 1: locked up. He just to buy him. So I think

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Speaker 1: Debo against Jamison Williams plus some draft capital, well that's

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Speaker 1: a that's a really tough call because I think both

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Speaker 1: Lava and Williams add an element of explosiveness down the

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Speaker 1: field that's gonna be tough, and the other pieces that

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Speaker 1: you would have to give up as well. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I'm willing to do that, but I do

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Speaker 1: love Debo Samuel, so I'm gonna say Debos are better

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Speaker 1: than any one of those other options. I'll take Debo

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Speaker 1: over Olava in the unknown. By the way, people are

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Speaker 1: acting like he gets fifteen carries a game or something.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he averages less than four carries a game,

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Speaker 1: all right, including playoffs. This is not like he's used

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Speaker 1: as this workhorse running back. But he does get some carries,

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Speaker 1: and we all get that. Yeah, But I think the

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Speaker 1: first half of the season mark he was almost I

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Speaker 1: think it was like nine yards or so in the

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Speaker 1: first half of the season as a receiver. As a receiver,

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Speaker 1: it's a receiver, So that was the first half of

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Speaker 1: the season. So I think people lose that sit like

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Speaker 1: he's such a good ball carrier. I think he lose

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Speaker 1: sight of the fact that he's still a pretty darn

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Speaker 1: good receiver. He can do what you wanted me to

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Speaker 1: do in a lot of theos as a peer receiver

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Speaker 1: and be that productive. I mean, I'm wondering if you

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Speaker 1: gave Andre Johnson the ball as a running back back

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Speaker 1: in the day, like every once in a while, gave

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Speaker 1: him a carry. I know they put him in the

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Speaker 1: backfield every once in a while, which was kind of

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Speaker 1: weird on occasion, but they didn't really use him for

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Speaker 1: that obviously. But I remember talking to one of the

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Speaker 1: coaches who said, you know what, he'd be a hell

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Speaker 1: of a kickoff returner, but we just can't do that. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: He'd be good at everything. You can play him at

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Speaker 1: strong safety, he'd be great. Anyway, who's better That's what

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Speaker 1: we're doing here. And Chris Simms floated this out. There's

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Speaker 1: a possibility, possibility that maybe it's as simple as Samuel

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Speaker 1: not wanting to live in San Francisco and the greater

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Speaker 1: San Francisco area. Well, if the trade went down with

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Speaker 1: New York, what's better Johnny better place to live the

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Speaker 1: greater San Francisco area. And there's a lot to this

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Speaker 1: because San Francisco plays in Santa Clara, the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers or the Greater New York area. We know the

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00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: Jets have their headquarters now in New Jersey, but you

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Speaker 1: could live in Manhattan and maybe make the commute. Whatever

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Speaker 1: the case, may be better place to live. Pick it.

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Speaker 1: I've got to say San Francisco. I have. When we

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Speaker 1: go out there to San Francisco, I just my heart

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Speaker 1: is a flutter. It's just it's pretty. I just the

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Speaker 1: temperatures are great. Yeah, the real estate is so incredibly high.

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Speaker 1: So I had this conversation with a friend of mine

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Speaker 1: the other night and he said that his buddy moved

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Speaker 1: out there and moved to Davis, I guess, which is

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Speaker 1: a kind of suburb of San Francisco, and they got

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Speaker 1: a decent price in the house, had space. But then

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Speaker 1: that guy's wife wanted to actually move back in the

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Speaker 1: San Franciso like in San Francisco proper, and said for

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Speaker 1: about a square feet he's paying a mill two now

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Speaker 1: debo debo. With that contract he'll get eventually he'll be

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Speaker 1: able to afford that. I mean, the common man not

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Speaker 1: really gonna happen. But if I got to choose, I'm

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Speaker 1: probably saying San Francisco. I'll go with the weather. New

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Speaker 1: York is fantastic, it's fun and all that, But man,

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Speaker 1: I just love San Francisco that much more. I love

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Speaker 1: going out there. I don't even have to look at

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Speaker 1: the data. Okay, wherever you're listening right now, friends, and

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Speaker 1: wherever you live, multiply that, whether it's rent or mortgage

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Speaker 1: price of your home, whatever, multiply it by four, and

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Speaker 1: then you're in the greater San Francisco area. That's just it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's got to be at least that and

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Speaker 1: maybe more in many cases. Okay, let's go old school

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Speaker 1: quarterback and current quarterback? Here, better quarterback? Who's better for

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills? This is for the Bills. And you

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Speaker 1: have to sort of go with the time machine. You

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Speaker 1: have to look at history and it's projection with the

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Speaker 1: current guy. Josh Allen, Jim Kelly. Who's better Johnny? Oh,

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Speaker 1: you mean Houston Gambler Jim Kelly, Yeah, no, ka Gun

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Speaker 1: Jim Kelly. I mean they're kind of similar in this regard.

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Speaker 1: They're both tough as nails. They are incredibly physical, him

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Speaker 1: mentally tough. And I give both of them that. Kelly

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Speaker 1: was gonna get in that k gun and they were

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00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: gonna go up tempo, and he called the game. He

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Speaker 1: was incredibly bright, tough, his skills started to road a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but he can make every throw in that offense,

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Speaker 1: and it was so good. This guy's on a different

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Speaker 1: planet now, Josh is on a different planet. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we saw in the playoff game that first half. Three

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Speaker 1: of us are talking during a break late, how stopped

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Speaker 1: this guy? This guy's he's his second year and he's

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Speaker 1: doing this to us. And of course he melted down

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Speaker 1: in the second half. But man, that game against Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just to twenty one season, you saw such growth.

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Speaker 1: He didn't have to run the ball, but when they

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Speaker 1: needed him to run the ball, he turned into Deebo Samuel.

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Speaker 1: When he had to throw the ball, he turned into

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. I mean, imagine if you could put Deebo

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Speaker 1: Samuel and Patrick Mahomes in the same body. Vo Lah,

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Speaker 1: that's what you have in Buffalo with Josh Allen. I

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Speaker 1: am not quite ready to say he's above Jim Kelly,

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Speaker 1: but if he stays on this, he stays on this path,

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Speaker 1: stays healthy. I think Josh Allen surpasses Jim Kelly, and

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Speaker 1: I think he gets a Super Bowl sometime soon. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, you brought up Kenny O'Brien earlier. You went

637
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Speaker 1: old school talking about Zach Wilson for the Jets, and

638
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Speaker 1: O'Brien was drafted twenty fourth in that nineteen eighty three

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Speaker 1: first round. Of course they passed up Dan Marino, but

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Speaker 1: everybody did. Dan Marino drafted twenty seventh to the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: But this is interesting to me because O'Brien wasn't exactly

642
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame material, but he was very solid

643
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: for the New York Jets, multiple playoff appearances and all that.

644
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: Kelly was fourteenth to the Bills, but he played for

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Speaker 1: the Lax. I mean for the Houston Gamblers. First who

646
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Speaker 1: played for the La Express. It was Steve Yung played

647
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Speaker 1: for the La Express of the USFL, and of course

648
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Speaker 1: Elway was first. We don't have to go over the

649
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Speaker 1: rest of it. Oh, Tony Easton to the Patriots at fifteenth.

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Speaker 1: It was better than people. Remember, I'm sorry you named

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Speaker 1: him Almo. You named almost had blackledg Oh, yes, yeah,

652
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Speaker 1: very good. Yeah. Black Ledge went to the Kansas City

653
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Speaker 1: Chiefs and really didn't do much there, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's correct, you know you mentioned you mentioned, uh, Steve

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Speaker 1: Young went to the La Express who originally who originally

656
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Speaker 1: did the La Express draft with their first USFL draft pick.

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Speaker 1: He was one of those six quarterbacks. Wait who did

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Speaker 1: Wait you dropped out for a second or maybe LA

659
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Speaker 1: Express drafted first in nineteen eighty three in the USFL.

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Speaker 1: Which quarterback they take? Yes, Oh, geez, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It took him number one, Lay Marino, one of those

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00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: two Marino. They didn't take a chance with Elway. They

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Speaker 1: just went straight to Marino and he was drafted by

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Speaker 1: the La Express and he decided obviously he's gonna play

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Could have been a Pittsburgh Maller, you know,

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Speaker 1: that could have happened. You never know, all right. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: next up, while we learned from the Houston Sports Awards, also,

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Speaker 1: are we really we could go on the record with

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Speaker 1: our prediction with the number three pick. Next, you'll have

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Speaker 1: to wait and find out. It's Texans Radio. More, Texans

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Speaker 1: best in Texas Texans Radio. The drive continues, all right, So,

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Speaker 1: I know the Astros are off to a tough start relatively,

679
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: but they were what three games below five hundred and

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00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: seventeen games in last year and you saw what happened.

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00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: They could have would have should have well I don't

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00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: know how they should have, but possibly could have won

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Speaker 1: the World Series. They were right in there, Johnny. It's

684
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Speaker 1: like they played a game. It's the football equivalent of

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Speaker 1: what like a game and a quarter and they're you know,

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Speaker 1: five hundred. So yeah, relax everybody. I know there's some

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Speaker 1: concerns and yeah, I hear it, but it's really early, folks,

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00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: It's really early. I mean especially the Astros. I mean,

689
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: what was it two thousand and five where they started

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00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: off so badly and there was there was a chronicle

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Speaker 1: article in which they had the Astros season with with

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Speaker 1: a USA stone tombstone saying it was over and then

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Speaker 1: they went on a run and it was magical. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's you know the things, there are some things to fix,

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00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: but you don't panic, not now, no, no panic. Enjoy yourself.

696
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: And it's a long season and I haven't been out

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00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: to a triple A game yet. I mean, I've been

698
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: to the Skeeters many times, but not the Space Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: So we're looking forward to going out there. Also looking

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Speaker 1: forward to the Draft, which is one week from tonight.

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Speaker 1: Miller Outdoor Theater and go to Houston Texans dot com

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00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: for all sorts of information on that. It is gonna

703
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: be awesome to be out there doing our radio show

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Speaker 1: from night number one first round activity. The other nights

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Speaker 1: we will still be on the air. Johnny's on the

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Speaker 1: air the entire time. I'm on the ear all but

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Speaker 1: four hours of it with Sean Pendergast helping out on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: Seth Paint on Friday night. Of course, Andre Ware on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: Robert Hensley helping us out a couple of nights, Tyler

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Speaker 1: Milner helping us out, a lot of guys helping us out,

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Speaker 1: Clint Sterner. It's gonna be great. We'll have Nick kas

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Speaker 1: Sarrio on after the draft, will have the press conference.

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Speaker 1: There was every night, Johnny, everyone asks you, Everyone asks you,

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Speaker 1: who are they taken? Who they taken? Last night, Houston

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Speaker 1: Sports Awards, great event down at the Wortham Theater. Congratulations

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Speaker 1: Patti Smith and the Harris County Houston Sports Authority on

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Speaker 1: a terrific event. As always, everyone asking you who they taken?

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Speaker 1: Who are they taken? What do you tell people they

719
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: ask you? Depends on what happens that one and two

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Speaker 1: one thing. It's funny because I know Nick Sterio said today,

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Speaker 1: more likely making a pick at three, And that's kind

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Speaker 1: of what I've been thinking, because I just the more

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Speaker 1: I thought about this quarterback class, the more I am

724
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Speaker 1: just not enamored with it. And I can imagine if

725
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm feeling that way, there's a lot of gms. I

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00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: feel that way, and there might be a GM or

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00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: to talk themselves into this quarterback being great, that quarterback

728
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Speaker 1: being great, and you see some seedlings, but you just

729
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: don't see it overall. And then I would be curious

730
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Speaker 1: to know how many personnel staffs look forward and how

731
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: much they look forward. There's certain positions they probably don't know,

732
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: but a quarterback they probably have a pretty good eye

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Speaker 1: on what's coming next year, being such an important position,

734
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: and it's loaded, it's absolutely loaded. If you don't absolutely needed,

735
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: your job is not on the line sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: Wait a year, because these guys that are coming after

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00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: that are gonna be unbelievable. It's gonna be at I

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00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: think five or six will go in the first round

739
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: next year, just looking at if all things work out

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Speaker 1: the way that I would think with Bryce Young, c J. Stroud,

741
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Speaker 1: Will Levis from Kentucky, There's a lot of them. I

742
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: could go on, but that's what I would wait for.

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Speaker 1: And because all that, I don't think there's a move

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Speaker 1: to three. I do think Nick will consider thirteen, and

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00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting what a team will do to get

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Speaker 1: up to thirteen. And you would think a trade up

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Speaker 1: would be a quarterback, and trading up the thirteam makes

748
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: more sense than trading up to three to take said quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That's said, if they're at three. In my mock, I've

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Speaker 1: got Walker going to Jacksonville, Trent Balkie just falls in

751
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: love with the trades, Aidan Hudson goes to Detroit, and

752
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Speaker 1: number three I have trenches of it's a line I

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00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: have Ikey Aquanu and I thought about a number of

754
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: different spots. I thought about Sauce Gardner and Derek Stingley.

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Speaker 1: One of those two a corner. I don't have a

756
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: problem taking a corner because of those two guys that

757
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: think they're play quality is just off the charts. Good.

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00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: Evan Neil considered as well, But with Walker and Hutchinson

759
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: off the board, I just felt like I'm gonna take

760
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Speaker 1: the player that makes the biggest impact in the trenches

761
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: down where it has to happen, and that to me

762
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: is a quantity, with Evan Neil not too far behind.

763
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Speaker 1: So that's where I ended up going with Ikey Aquanu

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Speaker 1: right there at number three. What say you voice the Texans?

765
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: It feels like a safe bet to say Neil or

766
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: a Quanto considering they'll probably be available right there, And yes,

767
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: it does strengthen your team. It's a position of need,

768
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: so I understand all that. I think what they'll take

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00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: it to consideration is, yeah, these are great prospects, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: But are the corners his safe sauce? Just for example,

771
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Speaker 1: is he more valuable to take right there because the

772
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Speaker 1: drop off on the old line might not be as

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Speaker 1: much going into round two and three and beyond as say, cornerback,

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00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: where they really do need some help. So these are

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Speaker 1: things that they have to figure out, and they have

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Speaker 1: a lot of time to do it. So we'll hear

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Speaker 1: more from Nick Casserio tomorrow because he's gonna be on

778
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Speaker 1: our show. So six o'clock Nick Casserio, stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned, like, don't turn off the radio all night

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Speaker 1: long just to listen to Captain Mickey. You know, Captain

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00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: Mickey is really he's a really good broadcaster. He is,

782
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: so you want to keep it locked in for twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours until Nick comes up. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Johnny the Dean Martin impersonator from last night Houston Sports,

785
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Speaker 1: I ran into him in the players lounge and he

786
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: was asking me if he could like grab something because

787
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: all the players had left, they would, you know, gone

788
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: to sit down. I said, yeah, it's fine with me, Dean,

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Speaker 1: it's fine, and he said he's been playing Vegas for

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Speaker 1: twenty years. It's been a great life for him impersonating

791
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: Dean Martin. So I guess they flew him in or whatever.

792
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: But that's pretty cool. Those three were fantastic. The Frank Sinatra,

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00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: the Thank Sinatra impersonator, was outstanding. As soon as I

794
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: heard him open his mouth, I'm like, that's Frank hold smokes.

795
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: He said, I listened to enough Frank Sinatra to know,

796
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: and so does our buddy Frank Ross. I wish Frank

797
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: would have been there. He would have maybe cut some hair.

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00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: Have you done the documentary yet, the Frank Sinatra documentary? No, no,

799
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: I haven't. Johnny, you have to watch this. And I

800
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 1: asked Dean Martin last night The Ghost of Dean Martin

801
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: if if he'd watched it. He said absolutely. I said,

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00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: is there one on Dean? He said yes, there is,

803
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 1: so I love those things. Okay, well you gotta find

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00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: that for me. And by the way, have you seen

805
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: the Shark documentary? No, I need to see it. I

806
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: saw clips from it on social media. The clips, look

807
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: the clips. Where is it? Where is it? It's espn Ah,

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00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: very good, Okay, Johnny, thank you, Thank you, General John

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Speaker 1: McClain now a Houston Chronicle correspondent. That is the best,

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Speaker 1: and thank you very much. Chris Ford producing Nick Cassario

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Speaker 1: to our night at six. Have a great night everyone

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