1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis buck 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I am hanging with you guys out in Seattle. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: Had an awesome event last night with Hillsdale College. I 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: will talk about that some as the show progresses today. 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: Larry Arn, Doctor Larry Arn, who is in charge of 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Hillsdale College, amazing guy, phenomenal event. Joined meeting so many 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: of you out there who are listening in the Pacific, 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: Northwest and all over the country. We got a lot 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: to dive into today. And let's go ahead and let 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: me give you a little bit of a runway of 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: where we are headed. We've got a juror already dismissed 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: from the Trump trial. We will give you the latest. 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: Potentially two jurors in danger of being replaced. It appears 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: that one of the jurors may have lied about his 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: interest in politics. Go figure. We will discuss that where 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: we headed as the day three of the Trump trial 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: is underway. Right now in New York City, Google fired 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: twenty eight employees. This is interesting. The NPR head is 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: even crazier than you thought. Biden goes to a gas 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: station in Pennsylvania and nobody cares. The majorcas impeachment kind 22 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: of a disaster. All of that and more coming your way. 23 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls as well. Buck is 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: out with his wife, Carrie. They are out today and tomorrow. 25 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: He'll be back with me on Monday. So I am 26 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: solo here in Seattle today, hoping that my flight will 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: be smooth, and I'll be back in Nashville tomorrow to 28 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: finish out the week with all of you. But let's 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: go ahead and start here with the latest drama in 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: the New York City case against Donald Trump. Yesterday we 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: walked through the seven jurors that had been seated so 32 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: far and the information that was publicly available on those jurors. 33 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: The second of those jurors, so called jur Number two, 34 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: publicly identified in many different media outlets as a let 35 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: me read what yesterday we told you about her. Jur 36 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: Number two. We did not think this was likely to 37 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: be a juror that was beneficial to Trump. A woman 38 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: who was a native New Yorker had been an oncology 39 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: nurse for fifteen years, spends her free time with family 40 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: and friends and taking her dog to the Park. She 41 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: showed up in court today said after sleeping on it, 42 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: she did not think she could serve on the jury. 43 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: We have audio of MSNBC reporting on that juror being 44 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: removed from the trial. 45 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: Here it is one of the jurors called up the 46 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: court to inform them that she did not know whether 47 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: she could actually be fair and impartial. She was asked 48 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: to come to court this morning and went before the 49 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: defense and went before the District Attorney's office and answered 50 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: questions about how she got to that conclusion. And she 51 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: said in part that she got calls just yesterday alone 52 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: from quote, friends, colleagues, and family quote questioning my identity 53 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: as a jur She continued, I don't believe I can 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: be fair and unbiased and let the outside influences not 55 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: affect me in the courtroom. This hits at the heart 56 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: of the difficulty for these jurors over the course of 57 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: the next six to eight weeks. These are individuals who 58 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: they are anonymous. Yet we and the sides have some 59 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: details about who these individuals are, the neighborhoods, their occupation. 60 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so we told you the seven jurors public information 61 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: that had been out there. Jur number two is out. 62 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: There's also a report that jur Number four, who we 63 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: actually thought might have been favorable to Trump, born in 64 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, said he had no hobbies because he worked 65 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: too much, married with one daughter. There are reports now 66 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: that he lied about not being politically active and may 67 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: have been arrested at some point in time. I flagged this. 68 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: This has still not been decided. They want him to 69 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: come down and explain himself. Let me read what I read. 70 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: Prosecutor said. A person with the same name as jur 71 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: Number four, Puerto Rican man who said he found Trump 72 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: quote fascinating and mysterious, had been arrested in the nineteen 73 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: nineties in Westchester. That's an area outside of New York 74 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: City High End. I would say in general for quote 75 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: tearing down political advertisements. They said that they had found 76 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: this because one of the district attorneys said the DA's 77 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: team did research that possibly calls into question the veracity 78 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: of the answers that jur number four gave. This is 79 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: already turning into a bit of a cluster, and Judge 80 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: Marchand is now mad at the media because the jurors 81 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: are supposed to be anonymous. 82 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: Listen to this cut to basically told the court that 83 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: aspects of my identity have already been out there in 84 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 3: the public. Yes yesterday alone, I had friends, colleagues, and 85 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: family push things to my phone questioning my identity as 86 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 3: a juror that coming from our colleagues inside the courtroom 87 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 3: watching this happen in real time. And essentially because of that, 88 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: the judge sort of reminded everyone that this needs to 89 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: be an anonymous jury that members of the media and 90 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: elsewhere really cannot get into very detailed things about descriptions 91 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: of these people. 92 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: Because of this reason, can't even describe who the jurors 93 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: are now and here is now, let's see this is 94 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: on CNN. Former federal prosecutor and cushcr Dory said, Judge 95 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: mar Chan has been doing a poor job of jury 96 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: selection so far. This is what they're talking about on CNN. 97 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: Listen to cut three. 98 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 4: I think that this was frankly inevitable given the amount 99 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 4: of information that was coming out. This is not the 100 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 4: fault of the media. It's the fault of the judge 101 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 4: and the District attorney's office for not managing this process 102 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 4: more intelligently, and evidently you know they're working through it today. 103 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 4: And they're gonna, you know, impose some constraints around the process. 104 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: But this is highly unfortunate and I'm a little worried 105 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 4: that it's not gonna stop, and we're just gonna have 106 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: to take it one day at a time. 107 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: Look, you have got it here. Let's just be honest. Remember, 108 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: our people wanted to put me in prison. I'm not 109 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: arrested yet, Eric Swalwell, CNN, MSNBC. They have not come 110 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: for me yet. They now are coming after Jesse Waters 111 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: because he shared details about the seven jurors that were 112 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: all public on his show last night, and now they're 113 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: saying that he's jury tampering and they want him arrested too. 114 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: Here's the reality. Everybody's already made up their mind in 115 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: the entire country about this case. You would have to 116 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: be Rip van Winkle and gone to sleep for the 117 00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: last decade in order to be completely unbiased on this case. 118 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: Everything that Stormy Daniels has alleged has been in the 119 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: public domain for nearly a decade now. All of the 120 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: Michael Coin allegations, all of the Trump paid off the 121 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: porn star Stormy Daniels, it's all been dissected, analyzed. Everybody 122 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: has made up their mind about whether they care about 123 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: this situation in the same way that they've made up 124 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: their mind about Donald Trump in general. And in Manhattan, 125 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: you've got an eighty seven percent this area of Manhattan, 126 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: eighty seven percent of all of these people voted against 127 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. So if you wanted to have this trial, 128 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: first of all, trial is total joke, shouldn't be happening. 129 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: It's political propaganda. But if you wanted to have this trial, 130 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: you should have it in a place that is actually 131 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: representative of the American public. This is why I haven't 132 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: really complained about South Florida. If you wanted to take 133 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: this case to Miami to Dade County, which is basically 134 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty jurisdiction, probably a little bit more 135 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: favoring Trump. Trump won in twenty twenty, I think Miami 136 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: Dade County crew can correct me if I'm wrong on that. 137 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: I know Ron DeSantis won it, but it's close to 138 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. Then I would at least say, Okay, 139 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: this jury is representative of the larger American public. And 140 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: you know what would happen. They would have a hung 141 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: jury because several members of that jury would say yeah, 142 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't believe this case should be brought. I don't 143 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: think Trump committed a crime, and the case would never 144 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: lead to a conviction. Instead, Alvin Bragg, who is a 145 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: Democrat who dreams of one day being the governor or 146 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: the Senator, is doing what the people of Manhattan want 147 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: him to do. He's trying to convict Donald Trump of 148 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: a felony and trying to make Donald Trump go to prison, 149 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: all for political reasons. I have said, as a lawyer 150 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: looking at this case, I don't think there is enough 151 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: time spent on how garbage it truly is. You're talking 152 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: about a misdemeanor that is outside the statute of limitations, 153 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: that has been elevated to a felony based on another 154 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: crime that is also outside the statute of limitations. I 155 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: believe that purely from a legal perspective. Remember, the general 156 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: rule is jury's decide questions of fact, Judges decide questions 157 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: of law. I believe purely from a legal perspective, this 158 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: case is going to be tossed. Might not happen for 159 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: a year, probably will take a decent amount of time 160 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: for this to work its way through the appellate process. 161 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: It is total and complete garbage, and frankly, anyone involved 162 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: with this in the Manhattan District Attorney's office should be ashamed. 163 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: And if we actually wanted to punish someone for being 164 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: involved in this, that wouldn't bother me. That is, the 165 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: warriors that are involved in this junk garbage case are 166 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: actually the individuals who are in affront to lawyers everywhere. Instead, 167 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: they get mad at people like me for saying, what 168 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: is clearly happening here, and you should never do this, 169 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: you should never commit a crime. Let me be clear. 170 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: I don't want any of you to ever jaywalk. I 171 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: don't want any of you to ever go over to 172 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: the speed limit. I don't want any of you to 173 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: ever round down the taxes that you owe to the 174 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: United States government. I want all of you to be 175 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: the greatest, most law abiding people on the face of 176 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: the planet. But you know who ain't doing that? Left wingers. 177 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: I think there are going to be a lot of 178 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: people in this jury pool who lie because they want 179 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: to get on the And already there's an allegation that 180 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: jur number four might be a zealous political advocate who 181 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: was arrested for ripping down political posters in the nineteen nineties, 182 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: and somehow didn't disclose that to the jury, to the DA, 183 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: to the defense attorneys, to everybody in the courtroom. Now 184 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: credit they may have caught him. Will see what happens 185 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: with Juror number four. But jur number two went to bed, 186 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: woke up and said, you know what, Yeah, this is 187 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: I can't be impartial. I actually give her credit for 188 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: acknowledging it. No one can be impartial on this case. 189 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: Everyone already knows all the details. You know how they 190 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: tell you, hey, don't consume any media, don't pay attention 191 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: to what anybody else is saying. Yeah, they didn't tell 192 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: them that a decade ago, when this whole story started. 193 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: All of this has been out publicly. Stormy Daniels did 194 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: an interview with sixty Minutes. It's been on the front 195 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: page of the New York Times. I bet forty times. 196 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: It's impossible not to have made your mind up on 197 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: this case already. Biden won Miami Dade fifty three to 198 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: forty six. Thanks for the crew. Look at me looking 199 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: that up. I think Trump will probably win Miami Dad 200 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four against Biden. But if you told me, hey, 201 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: that's the jury pool it's basically representative of America. I 202 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: would say, okay, and you know what would happen. This 203 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: case would never lead to a conviction. It would get tossed. 204 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: It would be a mistrial. About half the people on 205 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: the jury would say this is garbage. There's no way 206 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: we're going to vote to convict. You've got a rigged jury, 207 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: you got jurors lying to try to get on to 208 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: the trial. This thing is already a kangaroo court and 209 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: we're three days in. We'll take some of your calls. 210 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: By the way, all of you, I want to be 211 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: the greatest, most law abiding people in the history of mankind. 212 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: Make sure that we clip this crew. So when Alvin 213 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: Bragg arrest me for trying to interfere with the jury 214 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: by pointing out that it's already incredibly tainted, and there 215 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: are already allegations that jurors who have been seated are 216 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: lying to get seated, So now you're not allowed to talk. 217 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: It's jerry tampering. The jury's already been tampered with. It's 218 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: called the last eight years eight hundred two two eight 219 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: a two. Will continue to break this down because there's 220 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: going to be more data. We may lose two of 221 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: the seven jurors that were already seated. 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We've got another cut 246 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: that I think just further elucidates the ridiculousness of this 247 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: trial and the idea of quote impartial jurors, particularly when 248 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: it appears left wingers are trying to sneak on the 249 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: jury because they hate Trump. Go figure. Here is cut 250 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: four talking about the difficulty of finding impartial jurors anywhere 251 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: in Manhattan. 252 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 5: Do you feel like the people that you were speaking 253 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 5: with in that jury room, that you sat with all 254 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 5: day on Tuesday, that they can put together a fair 255 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 5: and impartial jury because of that sense of duty. Do 256 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 5: you think that's possible. 257 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 4: I'm not sure about that really. 258 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: Why, you know, everybody has biases and you know, stereotypes 259 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: in their mind, so you have to be a really 260 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: you know, deep and. 261 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: You know, fair person, and it. 262 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 5: Is very hard to do. 263 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: Right, then, they didn't get the answer that they were 264 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: liking from a recent immigrant there who had been in 265 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: the jury room. She's being honest. This is why we 266 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: should continue to hammer this home. We already have a 267 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: jury system in the United States, it's called a presidential election. 268 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: That way, around one hundred and fifty million of you 269 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: get to sit as a jury on Donald Trump and 270 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, and you get to analyze everything that they've said, 271 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: everything that they've done, everything that has been alleged, everything 272 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: that has occurred relating to either man, and you get 273 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: to walk in that voting booth and make your decision 274 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: on November fifth, or sometime in advance. If you want 275 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: to vote early, I want all of you to vote early. 276 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: I don't want you to vote often because you're not Democrats, 277 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: but I want you to vote early. I want you 278 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: to make sure that you are there and your voice 279 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: is heard. What is more representative of a verdict on 280 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump than one hundred and fifty million of you 281 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: getting to sit as a jury. It's certainly more representative 282 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: than twelve random people in Manhattan, a place that hates Trump, 283 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: where many people are still walking around in face masks, 284 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: convinced that he is hitler. Is that a fair a 285 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: group of people at all who should be able to 286 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: make a decision in this case. I've got a big 287 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: theory here, and I was talking with a few different 288 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: individuals about this. There is no comparable rig job in 289 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: the judiciary, in the court system for Republicans compared to 290 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: what Democrats do. Think about this for a minute. Is 291 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: there any red jurisdiction that has put somebody on trial 292 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: for their left wing politics? I can't think of it 293 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: at all. I mean, that's effectively what's going on here 294 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: right If Trump had never gone into politics, if he'd 295 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: never come down that staircase at mar A Lago, he 296 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: would have never faced all these felony charges. I've said 297 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: it before. I don't think there's anyone in the history 298 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: of the United States who never had criminal charges brought 299 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: against him and suddenly faces criminal charges the age of 300 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: seventy five and four different jurisdictions. I met, it's never 301 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: happened before. 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Another juror has now been dismissed, 320 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: according to the AP, leaving five seated right now. Let 321 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: me I'm reading from this A chill of sort. This 322 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: was posted eleven minutes ago by the AP. A chill 323 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: of sorts has come over the proceedings. Trump lawyer Todd 324 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: Blanche asked the judge whether the temperature, Oh well, they're 325 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: complaining about how what temperature is in the courtroom. They 326 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: have not yet updated exactly. I'm going to rely on 327 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: the crew here to get me the data. But I'm 328 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: presuming that this is Juror four, who they believed may 329 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: have lied in order to get on the jury. So 330 00:19:55,040 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: this is in and of itself already spiraling completely out 331 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: of control. In the space of this morning alone, two 332 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: of the seven seated jurors have now been removed. That 333 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 1: means we are down to five. And again I'm scrolling 334 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: right now because this is legitimately just happened. Have they 335 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: identified the juror that was dismissed yet, Guys, I'm presuming 336 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: that it's going to be the juror number four, who 337 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: they believe they have caught in a crime. Theoretically, you 338 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: want to talk about jury tampering. This guy may have 339 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: lied about his political past and actually have been arrested. 340 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: If he had stayed on the jury. By the way, 341 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: that would have been a guaranteed mistrial. So I don't 342 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: know whether they will prosecute this juror or not, but 343 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: this is just evidence of how much everything is spiraling 344 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: out of control as we sit here, only on the 345 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: third day of theoretically this criminal trial. They were hoping 346 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: to seat the jury by Monday. They now have gone 347 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: back in reverse and they have only five of the 348 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 1: twelve jurors. They also want five or six alternates as well. 349 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: I thought that the jury selection would take far longer 350 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: than it had looked as if it might through Tuesday, 351 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: but now they are going in reverse. As we approach 352 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: lunchtime in the East Coast, only a few hours left 353 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: in court on Thursday, it seems highly unlikely to me 354 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: that this trial is going to start on Monday, given 355 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: where we are right now. But the lesson here is 356 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: that things are spiraling rapidly out of control to already 357 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: have two jurors removed, and to be in a position 358 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: where you now are discovering that the jury has at 359 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: least one member of the jury has lied as a 360 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: part of the jury voir deer, where you can ask 361 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: questions of the jurors, and this was a guy that 362 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: lied that both bucking myself yesterday thought, based on the 363 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: limited biographical data he had given, might be somewhat decent 364 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: as a Trump jur that is, someone who is not 365 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: a far left wing activist. And it turns out the 366 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: guy might have a record for being arrested in Westchester 367 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: for an election related crime. This is just so insanely stupid. 368 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: And I think the more you are hearing this come out, 369 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: the more you see what a kangaroo court this truly is, 370 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: the more ridiculous this process becomes. And remember we haven't 371 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: even started the trial. We're just trying to seek the jury. 372 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: And the challenge here that we are going to run 373 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: into is there are a lot of details on many 374 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: of these jurors that are probably going to come out 375 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: during the course of the trial because almost everybody has 376 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: a social media footprint these days, and so the idea 377 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: that you can claim that you haven't had an opinion 378 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: about Donald Trump over the last seven or eight years 379 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: is patently absurd. Let me ask you this, how many 380 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: of you know someone who doesn't have an opinion of 381 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Can you name a single person in your 382 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: life who is like, yeah, I just I don't really 383 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: pay a lot of attention to him. I don't really 384 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: have an opinion one way or the other. Donald Trump 385 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: is probably, in any of our lives, the person that 386 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: provokes the most opinion from the most people. Ever, so 387 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: the idea that they're trying to sell that they are 388 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: going to somehow find and an impartial, impartial jury pool 389 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: on this issue is a lie on its face, and 390 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: we already know how many people have Trump derangement syndrome. 391 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: They got mad at me for saying that if I 392 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: would love to be on this jury, I would love 393 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: to be on this jury. I would not lie in 394 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: the jury selection. I don't want any of you to 395 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: lie in the jury selection. But I would love to 396 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: sit on this jury. And I would look at all 397 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: the evidence, and I would analyze it, and you know what, 398 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: I would come to the conclusion of, yeah, all the 399 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: evidences unless there's some earth shattering revelation that we don't 400 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: know about in the Stormy to Annieals case, I would 401 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: look at it and say, this is a garbage political prosecution. 402 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm not going to vote to convict. But if I'm 403 00:24:54,920 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: thinking that, and I'm a Trump voter far more easy 404 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: going than the people who have Trunk derangement syndrome, how 405 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: many of them would love to get on this trial 406 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: and lead Trump into a conviction. Rachel Maddow would crawl 407 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: across broken glass ten miles to be on this jury. 408 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert might chop off one of his arms to 409 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: be able to be on this jury. Joy Reid might 410 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: trade her one remaining IQ point to be on this jury. 411 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: These people are insane. They have already caught one of 412 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: them lying it appears to be seated on the jury. 413 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: They're mad at me for saying, I hope there's somebody 414 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: out there who's a patriot that will look at all 415 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: the evidence and come to the conclusion that I would, 416 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: based on everything that's out there publicly available right now, 417 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: that this is a rig job designed to help Alvin 418 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: Bragg try to get into the juror into the governor's office. 419 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: They're already rigging the game by bringing this case, and 420 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: now they've got far left wing political activists trying to 421 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: rig the game to get on the jury. This thing 422 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: is already completely and totally corrupted. And we're just sitting 423 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: at the third day. Are you telling me that this 424 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: is not going to get far worse from here? What 425 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: I was going to tell you before they dismissed this juror, 426 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: and we'll get more details on this. This is all 427 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: breaking news. Two jurors out already in the Trump trial. 428 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: What I was going to tell you before is I've 429 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: talked with a lot of people about this. I believe 430 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: that given how much much left wingers are rigging the 431 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: criminal justice system, They've got a rig jury process in 432 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: New York City, they've got it in Washington, d C. 433 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: Can you even name a red jurisdiction that is doing 434 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: anything similar to Democrat politicians. I can't. It's because generally speaking, 435 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: Republicans to tend to stand on principle much more than 436 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: left wingers do. But what I've been suggesting is, if 437 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: you get one of these rigged juries, if they bring 438 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: charges against you in New York City or DC, and 439 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: they know what your politics are, they know they're going 440 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: to get a conviction, why shouldn't you be able to remove, 441 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: particularly in the federal cases, your charges to your home jurisdiction. 442 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: That would mean, for instance, for me, now, state courts 443 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: are different, although I think that the same kind of 444 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: principle should apply. Frankly, given how rigged of a process 445 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: we're seeing, I'd be very comfortable being judged by a 446 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: jury of my peers in Tennessee for anything. That's where 447 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: I live. That's my home. I don't live in New 448 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: York City. I barely spend any time there. I don't 449 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: live in Washington, d C. I barely spend any time there. 450 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: The people in those communities are not a jury of 451 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: my peers. But if they wanted to bring charges against 452 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: me in those jurisdictions, I think we should put in 453 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: place in the federal system an opportunity for defendants to 454 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: remove cases to their federal jurisdiction that is actually where 455 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: they live. If you can convict me of a crime 456 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: in my home jurisdiction, that is truly a jury of 457 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: my peers. I have nothing in common with the average 458 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: person who lives in manhatt That isn't a jury of 459 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: my peers. Washington, DC people are not juries in my peers. 460 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: They aren't Trump's peers any longer. Paul Beach, where Trump 461 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: lives now at Mar A Lago, they wouldn't bring these 462 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: charges there. He would beat them. There would never be 463 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: a conviction. Part of the problem that we see is 464 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: everybody responds to the latest crisis and they don't think 465 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: about how to prevent future issues. I think the precedent 466 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: that we are setting on Trump is awful. Charging the 467 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: leading presidential contender with a crime that is entirely political 468 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: in nature designed to take him off the campaign trail. 469 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: It's direct election interference. They want him in a courtroom 470 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: instead of out walking among the public all over the 471 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: swing states in this country. This is wrecked and intentional 472 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: election interference by Democrats. If Trump were to lose this 473 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: election in twenty twenty four, Democrats would run this playbook 474 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: time after time. They would come after all sorts of 475 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: people that they believe are enemies of their politics. Why 476 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: should we not solve this in the future by Republicans 477 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: voting and putting into law and opportunity to move charges 478 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: outside of left wing courtrooms in a federal context, although 479 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: I would support it in a state context too, to 480 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: a place where you actually live, where a jury would 481 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: actually be of your peers. Lacking that, I think a 482 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: lot of red state and read city prosecutors need to 483 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: start asking the question, do we have to fight fire 484 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: with fire? If they're going to try to put our 485 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: political leaders in prison for the rest of their life 486 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: on trumped up political charges, is it time to start 487 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: doing the same to them retributive justice. I'm committed to 488 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: principle right now. They're not. They're committed to the idea 489 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: that if you are their enemy, they want you in 490 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: prison for the rest of your life. That's what they're 491 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: trying to do to Trump. He's really correct when he 492 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: says he may be the first, but he won't be 493 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: the last. We have to address this, and we have 494 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: to solve it. And I hear nobody talking about solutions, 495 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: nobody talking about how to prevent this from happening in 496 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: the future. My idea there, allow you to remove it 497 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 1: to your home jurisdiction. Don't allow them to rig charges 498 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Don't allow them to rig charges 499 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 1: in New York. Give the defendant an opportunity to remove 500 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: charges to his home jurisdiction. Would apply to everybody. You 501 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't have to do it. Maybe you like the jury 502 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: pool that you're going to get in DC or New 503 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 1: York more than your home jurisdiction. But I think that 504 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: would change a lot of the power that these frankly 505 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: politically minded, totally political focused prosecutors right now are putting 506 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: into place. I think it would make a tremendous difference 507 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: right now. Mortgage rates, man, they are a mess because 508 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: everything Joe Biden touches is a mess. But American financing 509 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: can help you deal with those high mortgage rates. We 510 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: know who's set inflation rolling for the past several years. 511 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: But when you look at mortgage rates side by side 512 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: with credit card interest rates, mortgage rates are still a 513 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: lot smaller mortgage rates. You know, the average credit card 514 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: rate right now, the interest that you pay twenty two percent. 515 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: Twenty two percent is the average. If you've got a 516 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: lot of credit card right now, right now, and you 517 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: are a homeowner, you might want to knock out some 518 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: of that credit card debt by setting up your mortgage 519 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: to make more sense, especially because mortgage interest is tax 520 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: deductible unlike your credit card interest. The average homeowner can 521 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: save an average of eight hundred and fifty four dollars 522 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: a month with a refi designed to knockout credit card debt. 523 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: American Financing salary based mortgage consultants will show you how 524 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: much you can save every month, no upfront fees, no obligations. 525 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: You may even close in as fast as ten days, 526 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: possibly delay two mortgage payments, giving you greater savings upfront. 527 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: Call American Financing Today eight hundred seven seven seven eighty 528 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: one oh nine. That's eight hundred seven seven seven eighty 529 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: one oh nine. You can also visit Americanfinancing dot net 530 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: that's Americanfinancing dot net, NMLS won eight two three three 531 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: four nmls Consumer access dot org. It's probably not gonna 532 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: surprise you that they're also coming after my friend Jesse 533 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: Waters for sharing information about the jurors that was publicly 534 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 1: available to everyone here right now. There is a massive 535 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: campaign that I am seeing online to charge Jesse Waters 536 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: with jury tampering. Jesse's opened yesterday, which I thought was great, 537 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: and it was similar to what Buck and I talked 538 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: about on this show, going through the biographical details of 539 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: the seven jurors that had already been seated again, two 540 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: of them removed already. Today we're down to five jurors. 541 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: One of the jurors lied, it appears, about his political activism. 542 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 1: The other one just woke up this morning and said 543 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: I can't do it. Here's a snippet of Jesse yesterday 544 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: talking about the fact that people wanted me charged with 545 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: a felony for jury tampering as well. Listen. 546 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 6: One juror couldn't recall any anti Trump feeling, but when 547 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 6: the defense showed him the receipts, he admitted he'd posted 548 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 6: on social media quote Donald Trump should be locked up. 549 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 6: Another juror said he didn't remember posting anything bad about Trump, 550 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 6: and then, when showing the evidence, conceded the posting a 551 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 6: picture that says, quote Trump invites tie boys to the 552 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 6: White House tie Boy's request to return to cage. Those 553 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 6: two radical liberals got caught lying to the court and 554 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 6: were almost seated on the jury. This is what Trump 555 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 6: has to deal with. 556 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: Yesterday, Klay Travis was. 557 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 6: Criticized for suggesting Trump supporters get on the jury. 558 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: So far seven jurors have been seated, all right, so 559 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: now they what Jesse? What are they what? Jesse for 560 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: pointing out how rigged and unfair and impossible for a 561 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: jury of his peers it is to bring these charges 562 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: against in Manhattan. So when Trump says they're going to 563 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: start coming after him, they're now coming after anyone who 564 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: criticizes the impaneling of a rigged jury in a rigged 565 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: city by a rigged prosecutor. You aren't even allowed to 566 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: criticize the kangaroo court that is currently hopping around in 567 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: New York City trying to put Trump in prison for 568 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: the rest of his life. That is jury tampering. How 569 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: dare you criticize the attempt to put the leading Republican 570 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: candidate for president in prison, right in the middle of 571 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: his political campaign. More on all this insanity when we 572 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: come back. Thanks for hanging. Thursday Edition, Clay and Buck