WEBVTT - Part Two: The First Labor Strike: How the Tomb Builders of Deir El-Medina Started It All

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media. Hello, I'm welcome to kobiboohed Cool Stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>your weekly reminder that workers collectively bargaining is as old

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<v Speaker 1>as work. We have always had each other's back, We

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<v Speaker 1>always will. There's never been any exceptions. There's no such

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<v Speaker 1>thing as a scab. Why would anyone make up such

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible word. I am your host, Margaret Kiljoy. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is part two of a two parter. But the

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<v Speaker 1>Dierra al Medina strike the first strike in recorded history,

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<v Speaker 1>were the first recorded strike in history, something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>In part one we talked about labor in Egypt, and

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about how these big public works projects like

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<v Speaker 1>the tombs, weren't built by enslaved labor, but instead by

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<v Speaker 1>workers or about as free as people can be at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, which is medium. And in part two we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk more about them. So the village of Diuerrel Medina,

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<v Speaker 1>these skilled workers, they were paid better and treated better

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<v Speaker 1>than most of their contemporaries. Like this was like this

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<v Speaker 1>is the this is the fucking you've made it job.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're still like a worker. You're working on

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<v Speaker 1>pharaoh tombs. You know, they came from all over. There

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<v Speaker 1>were at least thirty different foreign names recorded among these workers,

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<v Speaker 1>and we actually know more about them than most ancient

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<v Speaker 1>working class people because everyone was writing shit down, mostly

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<v Speaker 1>legal stuff like money and marriage and divorce and lawsuits.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it wasn't got lawsuits. It's called legal redress, but

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<v Speaker 1>in the thing that I read, but I think that

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<v Speaker 1>means lawsuits, because like overall, we have this problem in

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<v Speaker 1>history where we tend to only know what the rich

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<v Speaker 1>people and the rulers did because that's the only people

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<v Speaker 1>that people bothered to write anything down about. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that's why this is such an interesting exception and why

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<v Speaker 1>to me it implies that the kinds of things that

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<v Speaker 1>they did, like collective bargaining, are indicative of that being.

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<v Speaker 1>If not common, then certainly, like if it was written

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<v Speaker 1>down in one of the only times we have ancient

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<v Speaker 1>shit about working class people written down, I suspect it

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<v Speaker 1>also happened other times too, you know. Anyway, this town

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<v Speaker 1>was founded during the eighteenth dynasty under Amenhotep the first,

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<v Speaker 1>so sometime in the fifteen twenty seven to fifteen oh

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<v Speaker 1>six BCE range, because that's when that guy was a pharaoh.

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<v Speaker 1>Women here had legal rights. They were high up in

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<v Speaker 1>the temples, and they were probably doing a decent bit

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<v Speaker 1>of the writing. They weren't the people who are called

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<v Speaker 1>the workers in this particular context. The workers were skilled craftsmen,

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<v Speaker 1>and they made furniture and funery stuff for other people,

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<v Speaker 1>not just for the Pharaoh. Funery equipment meant grave goods,

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<v Speaker 1>jewelry and pottery and art objects of all kinds. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take you on a tangent about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I am currently kind of fascinated by the human instinct

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<v Speaker 1>to make a really fancy shit and then just like

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of it, just bury it, just throw it

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<v Speaker 1>in the river. Like I know. The religious significance is different.

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<v Speaker 1>But during our episodes about all the Gulls and the Celts,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about how they would make hundreds of axeads

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<v Speaker 1>just to bury them in holes, or how they threw

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<v Speaker 1>so much gold into lakes that the Roman imperialists when

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<v Speaker 1>they came and invaded, they would auction off the Celtic

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<v Speaker 1>lakes to entrepreneurs who would dredge them up for treasure.

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<v Speaker 1>To the Celts, this throwing away of things that were

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<v Speaker 1>made that were you know, had value was sacrifice to

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<v Speaker 1>the Thonic gods. The gods of the earth, but we

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<v Speaker 1>still have wishing wells today. I visited World War two

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<v Speaker 1>submarine recently, and it serves frankly as sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>shrine to the past. I know. I went there to

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<v Speaker 1>honor my ancestor, my grandfather who fought one of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a spot where people throw coins down through

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<v Speaker 1>the grate to the inaccessible sub floor below. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a wishing well. There's still things that we have, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's an argument to be made that the vast wealth

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<v Speaker 1>of the medieval church was basically a sacrifice of the

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<v Speaker 1>fine goods to remove them from private hands. Unfortunately, since

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<v Speaker 1>priests are still people and the wealth kind of got

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<v Speaker 1>to their heads in a lot of cases, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the church reform at various points was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we got rich again. That was kind of our whole

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<v Speaker 1>point was not do that. Probably throwing shit into a

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<v Speaker 1>lake worked out better socially, but who knows. Disposing of

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<v Speaker 1>things that have value has been a religious act in

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<v Speaker 1>so many places I've read about. I'd always assumed grave

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<v Speaker 1>goods were generally the stuff rich people had during life,

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<v Speaker 1>but here's at least one data point where the funery

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<v Speaker 1>equipment consisted of objects made for them for the sole

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of burial. I've said it a thousand times already,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm kind of obsessed with how to sacrifice means

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<v Speaker 1>to make something sacred. Even the idea of burying the

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<v Speaker 1>dead into tombs instead of more traditional burial styles like

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<v Speaker 1>sky burial aka people out for the birds or burning

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<v Speaker 1>them at a pyre seems to map to class stratification.

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<v Speaker 1>Burial often comes with class stratification. Once there's rich people,

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<v Speaker 1>they get buried, they get you know, put into the earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and instead of just sort of disposed of like in

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<v Speaker 1>the Old Kingdom, only the pharaohs needed a special afterlife burial,

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<v Speaker 1>But these New Kingdom folks are making funery equipment on

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<v Speaker 1>the side for anyone with the money for them, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, the foreman of the village, a man named Ka.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got his own tomb and he was buried with

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of grave goods. Anyway, the workers would often

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<v Speaker 1>head over to Thebes to sell things. Thebes is the

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<v Speaker 1>capital of the country at that point, and compared to

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<v Speaker 1>like it is sometimes Memphis, which is further up north

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<v Speaker 1>than Thebes, is further south. And I know what you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>You're thinking but Margaret, doesn't Thebes a city in Greece? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that too. There are two Thebes. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that there are two Thebes is that, Okay, the

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<v Speaker 1>Thebes in Greece is really old, like as old as Egypt,

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<v Speaker 1>like three thousand BCE. Ancient Greeks, if they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>call something really old, they would be like, it's as

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<v Speaker 1>old as Thebes. The Egyptians didn't have a city named Thebes.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a city named wasit the big temple? They

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<v Speaker 1>called ta Opet. So years later when the Greeks showed up,

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<v Speaker 1>well after our story from today, they were like, ta Opet.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like Theibah, which sounds like Thebes. So there

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<v Speaker 1>you go, Bob's your uncle. Thebes is a city in Egypt.

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<v Speaker 1>Never change, Europeans, actually, please do change anyway, the workers

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<v Speaker 1>hung out in the capitol. That's my point here. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always like vaguely annoyed that we use the exonyms for

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<v Speaker 1>these various places that we don't call it. Was it

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<v Speaker 1>that we call it Thebes. But on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that like anyone who's like, oh, did you

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<v Speaker 1>go to Naples? No, I went to Napoli, like those

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<v Speaker 1>people are really annoying, and so maybe it would be

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<v Speaker 1>really annoying to be like, I don't know of a

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<v Speaker 1>Egyptian city named Thebes. I only know whasit. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where I land on this. This is

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<v Speaker 1>like the really important questions of our time. But their

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<v Speaker 1>whole town, which was not called Dierre al Medina at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, but that's what we call it now to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid calling it Napoli. The whole town was dry as fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why it's still around kind of, and the

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<v Speaker 1>community well was filled by people carrying water from the

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<v Speaker 1>nearby nile. For all the working people in this town,

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<v Speaker 1>there's like the like skilled craftsmen. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people who are like lesser doing quote unquote on skilled

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<v Speaker 1>labor there as well. It's a small town, a little

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<v Speaker 1>over one hundred houses, most of them inside the wall,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them outside the wall. And they're not just

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<v Speaker 1>simple huts. There are like four room brick houses. They

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<v Speaker 1>have cellars, they have altars. Presumably the men worked as

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<v Speaker 1>laborers and the women worked at home, mostly baking, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and the men were sorted into two work gangs, the

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<v Speaker 1>left side the right side, which was just which side

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<v Speaker 1>of any given tomb they worked on, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>organized in a more or less military fashion. People had

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<v Speaker 1>specialized skilled skills carpenters and sculptors and masons and shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus there's all the assistants who brought water, cut the wood,

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<v Speaker 1>wash the clothes, all that kind of shit. It was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of assembly line work. They would divide up the

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<v Speaker 1>wall basically using a chalk line like we do today,

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<v Speaker 1>only it was a string dipped in ink instead of chalk,

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<v Speaker 1>and then each person or each group of people take

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<v Speaker 1>a section and just get it done, painting drafts and

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<v Speaker 1>various colors before starting in on the carving and then

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<v Speaker 1>painting it their final colors. The work week was ten

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<v Speaker 1>days long, with three weeks in a month. I've read

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<v Speaker 1>that the weekend was three days long, and I've read

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<v Speaker 1>that it was two days long. I've read that it

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<v Speaker 1>was the last two days of each week in the

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<v Speaker 1>first day of the next week, and I've also read

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<v Speaker 1>it's just two days, so seven or eight days on,

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<v Speaker 1>two or three days off, nine days off a month

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<v Speaker 1>to our eight. And the work wasn't really mandatory. Workers

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<v Speaker 1>took off all the time. People would call in sick,

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<v Speaker 1>or they'd call in stung by a scorpion, or called

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<v Speaker 1>in tired of working for a while, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sore right. They also called in building shit for my

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<v Speaker 1>family this week instead sorry, and they called in building

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<v Speaker 1>a different thing for my corrupt boss instead of what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to be doing. Many workers only worked on

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<v Speaker 1>tombs one day a week. When they were working. The

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<v Speaker 1>laborers slept in huts closer to the work site during

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<v Speaker 1>the week because it was a long walk back home

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<v Speaker 1>about two kilometers but like really steep and sketchy. I

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<v Speaker 1>was actually reading. They eventually figured out that everyone got

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<v Speaker 1>osteoarthritis from all of the walk They like compared the

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<v Speaker 1>men and the women of the town and realized that

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<v Speaker 1>all the men had osteoarthritis from walking up and down

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<v Speaker 1>this sketchy steep thing all of the time. And part

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<v Speaker 1>of why we know all of this, when we know

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<v Speaker 1>the osteoarthritis think is of skeletal analysis. But the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that we know about like everything else about like called

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<v Speaker 1>in scorpion stone, right, is that they kept scribes around

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<v Speaker 1>who took notes about all the work being done, and

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<v Speaker 1>shit wasn't getting written down for posterity. Early writing was

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<v Speaker 1>entirely concerned with money with value. These were time cards. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>the scribes tracked who came to work and who didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>The scribes tracked who'd been paid how much, and who

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<v Speaker 1>took what out of the storehouses. There was literature too,

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<v Speaker 1>though multiple copies of specific satires were found on the

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<v Speaker 1>site in people's homes, so people just had like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the funny story has been going around. Everyone's reading it.

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<v Speaker 1>I got one at home. And there were adventure stories

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<v Speaker 1>about the gods. There was the story of Sanujah, the

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<v Speaker 1>adventures of a man who fled Egypt to Palestine. Fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>to me is the fact that the story of Sanuja

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<v Speaker 1>probably started off as a coffin text. And these coffin texts,

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you I'd tell you what they are. These

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<v Speaker 1>are the spells that were inscribed in the coffins of

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<v Speaker 1>the dead to help them reach the afterlife. And I

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<v Speaker 1>really like the idea that one of the oldest adventure

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<v Speaker 1>stories in history was a spell inscribed into a tomb.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the writers went above and beyond and were like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, but now let's throw a plot into this

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<v Speaker 1>bad boy be like you all buried me and put

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<v Speaker 1>the text of my amazing novel Escape from in Cell

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<v Speaker 1>Island into It. Don't do that, but it would be funny.

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<v Speaker 1>More recently, in nineteen twenty eight CE, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred years ago, some grave robbers again the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of degrees, found a whole library in the tomb of

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<v Speaker 1>one scribe, and he had a papyrus scroll now called

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<v Speaker 1>the Egyptian Dream Book, which talks about dream divination. Around

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred of the interpretations have survived the millennia. I've

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<v Speaker 1>also read two hundred and twenty two. But it's important

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<v Speaker 1>to understand these interpretations were not like direct one to one.

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<v Speaker 1>Not every person had the temperament to make these particular

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<v Speaker 1>interpretations accurate. There was also skill involved in interpreting dreams,

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<v Speaker 1>understanding what they would mean for each person. These interpretations

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<v Speaker 1>for what was considered a Sethian temperamented person who is

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<v Speaker 1>chaotic and drunken and fit to prones of rage. Someone

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<v Speaker 1>is stormy with dangerous power. So if that's you, here's

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<v Speaker 1>some dream interpretations for you. If a man sees himself

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<v Speaker 1>immersing in the river in a dream, it is good.

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<v Speaker 1>It means purification from badness. If a man sees himself

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<v Speaker 1>dead in a dream, it is good. It means a

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<v Speaker 1>long life is ahead of him. If a man sees

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<v Speaker 1>himself writing on a papyrus role in a dream, it

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<v Speaker 1>is bad. It means his crimes will be reckoned by

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<v Speaker 1>his God. And let's see. If you see yourself eating

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<v Speaker 1>a crocodile, you're going to become an official. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>burying an old man in your dream, you will flourish.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've got white sandals in your dream, though when

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<v Speaker 1>you're walking around, you are doomed to wander the earth.

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<v Speaker 1>If you dream about fucking a lady, that's bad because

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<v Speaker 1>it's an indication of mourning. If you dream about getting hard,

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<v Speaker 1>it means your enemies are going to be victorious. If

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<v Speaker 1>you dream about drinking warm beer, suffering is coming. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you dream that you're looking out a window, that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>It means that God will hear your cries. But do

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<v Speaker 1>you know who else will hear your cries and will

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<v Speaker 1>interpret your dreams for you. The products and services that

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<v Speaker 1>support this show just when it says any additional notes,

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<v Speaker 1>as you're filling out that form to acquire that product

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<v Speaker 1>or service, just write in the whole of your dream,

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<v Speaker 1>and they will know this is a lie. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>actually going to interpret your dream for you. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they might eat and we're back. So in this tiny

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<v Speaker 1>little town, they had their own court system. Like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of places, the early judges were basically people who

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<v Speaker 1>are either respected or high up in the hierarchy. So

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<v Speaker 1>the foreman, the scribe, the deputy. There's like guards and shit,

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<v Speaker 1>and anyone who people specifically trusted or had been around

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<v Speaker 1>a while. This court, the ken Bet did civil stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and misdemeanors. I'm just calling it misdemeanors, like lesser crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything that's a capital crime, felonies, they're off to thebes

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<v Speaker 1>stealing stuff, especially if you denied stealing stuff before the

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<v Speaker 1>gods but were proven to be lying, that'll get you executed.

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<v Speaker 1>But since they wrote everything down, we know that most

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<v Speaker 1>of the cases were like so and so didn't pay

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<v Speaker 1>so and so for the thing they bought. They sued

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<v Speaker 1>each other a lot. There were guardians, there's other jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>There's guardians who guarded the tomb and also handed out

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<v Speaker 1>tools to workers and made sure no one was chiseling

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<v Speaker 1>away and either copper chisels to pocket the copper. There

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<v Speaker 1>were doorkeepers who closed up at night and paid the

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<v Speaker 1>workers their grain and served as witnesses and disputes. There

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<v Speaker 1>were police, and the police were there to protect the

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<v Speaker 1>tomb against like invasion and like you know, banditry and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and they also investigated tomb robbery and so like they

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<v Speaker 1>were there to both protect the people and police the people.

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<v Speaker 1>The workers were constantly under suspicion because they were constantly

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<v Speaker 1>stealing stuff because the urge to steal from work is

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<v Speaker 1>probably hardwired into our brains. They would steal fat and

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<v Speaker 1>oil from work candles to use in their home candles,

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<v Speaker 1>for example. And all these workers I keep calling this

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<v Speaker 1>wage labor. It's not like you would imagine wage labor

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<v Speaker 1>is designed to make sure that you don't get ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Like wage labor is designed to give you enough so

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<v Speaker 1>that you kind of just don't die so that you

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<v Speaker 1>can keep working. Like that's what it's been since pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much the beginning. And these days they have to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of build in a like, nah, you're totally going to

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<v Speaker 1>get ahead. You do this for forty years and you

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<v Speaker 1>get to have an RV or if you do it right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be a gazillionaire. You know. Somehow well,

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<v Speaker 1>they used to be more honest about it. Wage labor

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<v Speaker 1>the free labor, and it just paid you in rations.

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<v Speaker 1>They let you live there, and they paid you in rations.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what wages is. That's what it comes from. The

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<v Speaker 1>workers were paid in grain mostly, plus other necessities like

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<v Speaker 1>wood as fuel and clay for pottery and vegetables and

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<v Speaker 1>fish for like eating and holiday bonuses were paid out

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes the salt and sesame oil and meat. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>no currency at this point anyway. Read the book Debt

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<v Speaker 1>by David Graeber for a history of currency and to

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<v Speaker 1>learn neat things like how debt is an older idea

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<v Speaker 1>than money, and money is an older idea than burder.

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<v Speaker 1>For most of history, people have basically just worked for

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<v Speaker 1>room and board, best as I can tell. Again, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what wage labor is still designed to basically be. We

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<v Speaker 1>just like to abstract it and think we're free. But

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<v Speaker 1>as old as time, well as old as wage labor,

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<v Speaker 1>at least there was corruption. One scribe named Kenner Keberschev

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<v Speaker 1>was accused of accepting bribes two different times. Works accused

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<v Speaker 1>him of using the workgang to do work for him

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<v Speaker 1>during work hours. Then one worker wrote, quote, what does

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<v Speaker 1>his bad way mean? In which you behave to me.

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<v Speaker 1>If there is some beer, you do not look for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But if there is some work, you do look for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is a universal thought. If there is some beer,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't look for me, but if there is work,

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<v Speaker 1>you do look for me. And also where there are wages,

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<v Speaker 1>there's wage theft. Wage theft is when a boss doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>pay you what you are owed, and it is far

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<v Speaker 1>and away the most common sort of theft in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States of America. In twenty nineteen, just as an example,

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<v Speaker 1>all combined robberies amounted to four hundred and eighty two

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars. Wage theft was fifty billion dollars. That's one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred times higher. There's all kinds of graphs you can

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<v Speaker 1>see of like every single kind of how people steal

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<v Speaker 1>from each other, and it's just this tiny little chunk

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<v Speaker 1>is the stuff that we call a crime. Wage theft

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<v Speaker 1>is fucking everything. The rich are stealing from you right now.

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<v Speaker 1>They're stealing from you just by not giving you the

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<v Speaker 1>value of what you create, but they are extra stealing

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<v Speaker 1>from you on top of that. They tell you guys

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<v Speaker 1>to show up thirty minutes early to work, and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't pay you for it. They are fucking stealing your time.

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<v Speaker 1>They like to pretend like we're equals, that it's all

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<v Speaker 1>a free choice. Yet they talked down to us anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>That's been a labor agitation with Margaret. Back to the story,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was here in this city of workers. The

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<v Speaker 1>oldest known worker strike took place way before coins existed.

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<v Speaker 1>Coins didn't show up until about five hundred years later.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the advent of the labor strike was the advent

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<v Speaker 1>of wage theft. During the reign of Ramses the Third

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<v Speaker 1>eleven eighty four to eleven fifty three PCE, administrators were

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<v Speaker 1>corrupt as fucking thebes at nearby capital, the grain reserves

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<v Speaker 1>were dangerously low. Workers were barely being paid. Described Neferhotep wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>quote one and a half car of grain. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixty eight pounds have been taken from us.

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<v Speaker 1>We are dying. We cannot live. That was twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>years into Ramsey's the Third's reign. They put up with

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<v Speaker 1>it for several more years after that was written. In

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty ninth year and the twenty first day of

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<v Speaker 1>the second month, another scribe filed a formal complaint to

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<v Speaker 1>the temple months went by no relief. So in the

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<v Speaker 1>sixth month of the year, after their rations were delayed

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen days, all the men stopped working both gangs. This

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<v Speaker 1>was November fourteenth, eleven fifty two BC. They stopped working

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<v Speaker 1>and they all go to the mortuary temple of one

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<v Speaker 1>of the pharaohs. Dead Pharaoh's got a mortuary temple and

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<v Speaker 1>a separate tomb at this point, and they staged a

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<v Speaker 1>sit in. They just like showed up and we're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not fucking going give us our food. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>they sang like a tree beside the water, we shall

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<v Speaker 1>not be moved, but it can't prove that they did.

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<v Speaker 1>And so they were like, all right, well here's some pastries.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a fucking pizza party. But none of their

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<v Speaker 1>rations and that didn't work. I mean they ate the pastries,

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<v Speaker 1>like when your boss throws you a pizza party and

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<v Speaker 1>you should still eat the pizza. It's just not instead

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<v Speaker 1>of paying you overtime. So the next day they went

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<v Speaker 1>to another temple. The third day they went to a

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<v Speaker 1>third temple, or maybe on the second day they went

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<v Speaker 1>to the central grain storehouse in the city. I have

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<v Speaker 1>somehow read both even though there's only like one source,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one primary source for this, and I read it

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<v Speaker 1>and it was really hard for me to understand, both

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<v Speaker 1>because of the translation and just everything happening within it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, honestly kind of reliant on secondary

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<v Speaker 1>sources in order to try and make sense of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And secondary sources didn't agree with each other. But maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they went to the central grain storehouse in the city

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<v Speaker 1>and that primary source. It fits onto a single sheet

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<v Speaker 1>of a pirrus, and it's missing pieces here or there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more or less intact. So journal that's like, the

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<v Speaker 1>workers went and they sat down in the temple and

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<v Speaker 1>they spent the night there, and the workers say they're starving.

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<v Speaker 1>And the workers have been paid the following amount of

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<v Speaker 1>what they erowed the chief of police. Once they get

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<v Speaker 1>to wherever they go, this will shock you. The chief

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<v Speaker 1>of police was not on their side. He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>go home, get back to work, don't worry, we'll handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>And they did get that month's rations, so they went home,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they found out they wouldn't get the next

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<v Speaker 1>month's rations, so they went back on strike. They blocked

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<v Speaker 1>the road into the Valley of the Kings, so people

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't go offer food and drink to the dead. And

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<v Speaker 1>the guards were like, we'll move you by a force,

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<v Speaker 1>and the strikers were like, if you do, we'll fuck

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<v Speaker 1>up the tombs. So now we get sit ins, road blockades,

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<v Speaker 1>collective bargaining the thread of sabotage. It's fucking cool. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really excited about this story. There was this whole social

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<v Speaker 1>peace thing. It was an important Egyptian value at the

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<v Speaker 1>time Mott the pharaoh was supposed to respect it and

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<v Speaker 1>the workers were supposed to respect it. Don't rock the boat.

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<v Speaker 1>But after years of striking, this whole thing lested I

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<v Speaker 1>think around three years, to quote a write up by

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<v Speaker 1>Worldstory dot Work quote, at last, some sort of resolution

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<v Speaker 1>seems to have been reached, whereby officials were able to

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<v Speaker 1>make payments to the workers on time. But the dynamic

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<v Speaker 1>of the relationship between temple officials and workers had changed,

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<v Speaker 1>as had the practical application of maat. These would never

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<v Speaker 1>really revert to their former understandings. Again, Mahaut was the

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility of the pharaoh to oversee and maintain, not the workers,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet the men of Dieirel Medina had taken upon

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<v Speaker 1>themselves to correct what they saw as a breach in

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<v Speaker 1>the policies which helped maintain the essential harmony and balance.

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<v Speaker 1>The common people had been forced to assume the responsibilities

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<v Speaker 1>of the king. And so yeah, for three years or so,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever their rations would be late, they'd strike, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the rations would come and they go back to work,

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<v Speaker 1>and then repeat, and then finally they won. But they

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<v Speaker 1>did it at least twice more, at least once more

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<v Speaker 1>under the same reign, and then later under another Ramseys

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<v Speaker 1>Ramsey's The Eleventh and in case you needed another reason

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<v Speaker 1>to hate AI, one of the only articles I could

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<v Speaker 1>find about this event online. It was clearly written by AI.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say clearly, I mean I'd read this

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<v Speaker 1>shit all day every day, so I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>sell by AI, but it disguised itself as not AI.

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<v Speaker 1>In that article, the AI one claims that they were

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<v Speaker 1>led by a man named Paneb. But Paneb was actually

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<v Speaker 1>a corrupt work leader with accusations of sexual assault against him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I found no source that backs up that he

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<v Speaker 1>was involved in the strike. In the primary source in

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<v Speaker 1>the document, one person after the strike was resolved says

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<v Speaker 1>Panab was my father, and that's it. If there was

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<v Speaker 1>a leader. It might have been aman Nacht who did

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<v Speaker 1>the negotiations with the officials during the strike. But AI

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<v Speaker 1>just figured, oh, there's a work leader named Paneb, so

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<v Speaker 1>the strike must have had a leader. So it was Paneb.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it just writes in this strike was led

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<v Speaker 1>by Pineb and now it is poisoning one of the

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<v Speaker 1>main articles online about the very first labor action in

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<v Speaker 1>history by claiming its leader was a piece of shit

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<v Speaker 1>sexual assault. AI doesn't do research, and you shouldn't use it,

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<v Speaker 1>and people who use it to write history articles should

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<v Speaker 1>probably and if that's not enough to stop them, then

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<v Speaker 1>but you know who, we shouldn't do that too. We

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't do that to our sponsors. We love our sponsors.

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<v Speaker 1>In Rebec, most of the writing around ancient Egypt describes

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<v Speaker 1>the people as super pious, worshiping the gods, worshiping the

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<v Speaker 1>Pharaoh as the personification of the gods, and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the tombs were heavily guarded because heavily armed groups

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<v Speaker 1>of people kept robbing them. The British were really late

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<v Speaker 1>to the scene. Unfortunately for them. They wanted to rob

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<v Speaker 1>the tombs and managed to robbed quite a few of them,

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<v Speaker 1>but the overwhelming majority of these tombs were robbed millennia ago,

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<v Speaker 1>not that long after people put tons of really expensive

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<v Speaker 1>shit into tombs. People were like, yeah, but what if

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.959
<v Speaker 1>that was my stuff? Instead, the tombs were largely robbed

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<v Speaker 1>by the workers themselves, as best as I can tell,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least they helped out the robbers basically when

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<v Speaker 1>they stopped being paid. Central control started to waver during

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<v Speaker 1>the twentieth dynasty, the kind of the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>New Kingdom, and Egypt was a country beset by many enemies.

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<v Speaker 1>Workers in the Valley of Kings weren't getting paid as

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<v Speaker 1>regularly and so they weren't guarding the tombs as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and organized groups started robbing the places with inside help,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that stealing from work is also as old

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<v Speaker 1>as wage labor. If you ain't getting paid what your rowed,

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.640
<v Speaker 1>take what you rowede to tail as old as time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that this organized robbery of the Valley

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<v Speaker 1>of Kings was a little bit less of like what

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be, being like, fuck you, you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>pay me, I'm taking this shit. I'm walking around with

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<v Speaker 1>gold now, and more that the corruption in the local

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<v Speaker 1>governments was looking around for sources of income, and was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh about these tombs, So a little bit more like

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<v Speaker 1>mafia and a little less not robin hood, but like

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<v Speaker 1>happy banditry. I don't know whenever, and yeah, the New

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<v Speaker 1>Kingdom eventually ceased being around in an effective way, and

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<v Speaker 1>roughly around one thousand BCE workers kind of just left

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<v Speaker 1>the place because people started getting buried elsewhere. Folks would

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<v Speaker 1>just come back from time to time to visit the

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<v Speaker 1>various temples. And I just wanted to make a final

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 1>note here about grave robbing and Egyptology and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been calling the European archaeologists egyptologists. They call themselves

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<v Speaker 1>grave robbers throughout these episodes, not because I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>no value to archaeology, and not even out of like

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<v Speaker 1>theological respect for dead monarchs, but because of the history

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<v Speaker 1>of colonialism and the infamous entitlement to other people's history

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<v Speaker 1>that the British historically had. There's a museum that I've

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<v Speaker 1>been to called the British Museum, and it's in you know, Britain.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the name, and it is packed to the

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<v Speaker 1>brim with stolen shit that for some odd reason, most

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<v Speaker 1>of the world refuses to call stolen shit. If you

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<v Speaker 1>search British Museum full of stolen shit on doc doc Go,

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<v Speaker 1>like I did, thinking it might possibly help me, I

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<v Speaker 1>find a lot of handwringing about some recent thefts from

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<v Speaker 1>UK museums. In the past few years, thousands of artifacts

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<v Speaker 1>have gone missing from the British Museum, seemingly an inside job.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I can get why people are upset by this,

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<v Speaker 1>but like these objects don't belong to the British. The

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>British Museum defends it's holding on to all this stolen

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<v Speaker 1>shit by saying, quote, the trustees believe that the collections

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<v Speaker 1>are held in trust for the benefit of the world

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and future generations, that they are best preserved and made

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<v Speaker 1>accessible in London, and they contribute to a universal understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of human history. Imagine if someone store your granddad's favorite

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<v Speaker 1>watch and decided not to give it back for a

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>reason like that. Imagine if someone stole your granddad's body

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<v Speaker 1>and decided to not give it back for a reason

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 1>like that. We've talked before on this show about Orientalism

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<v Speaker 1>a fair amount. It's a sort of specific mystical othering

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<v Speaker 1>of Asia, especially Southwest Asia, and it's common in the West,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that these ancient people have mystical ways of

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<v Speaker 1>life that are utterly alien to our own. Putting people

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>on pedestals often goes hand in hand with oppressing them.

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<v Speaker 1>Ironically enough, some Europeans were fascinated by the Near East,

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<v Speaker 1>but overall, the otherness is used to justify atrocities like colonialism.

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>You see a similar thing in the construction of coolness

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 1>that white America does to Black America. Black people simultaneously

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>put on a pedestal as the arbiters of cool and

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the originators of culture, while also basically colonized for their

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<v Speaker 1>cultural production and generally mistreated systematically. We've talked about both

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>of those things recently. And the word Egyptology isn't used

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<v Speaker 1>as like a bad word, like orientalism, like people don't

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>call themselves Orientalists, but people call themselves Egyptologists. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>serious study of ancient Egypt. And I can't tell you

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>that the word itself is inherently problematic. It rubs me

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the wrong way. But I am not studied in exactly

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the social context behind the current use of the word egyptology.

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<v Speaker 1>But best as I can sort out the reason that

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<v Speaker 1>Egyptology is presented as its own unique thing is because

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<v Speaker 1>of the Victorian obsession with Egypt that reeks of orientalism

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and anti blackness all at once. It probably started when Napoleon,

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<v Speaker 1>the more famous one Bonaparte invaded Egypt in seventeen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>eight and said kind of stunning things, like not in

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>a bad way, like genuinely kind of beautiful things like

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<v Speaker 1>from the heights of these pyramids forty centuries looked down

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>on us. And Napoleon brought scientists with him on his conquest,

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and he set up the Institute of Egypt, bringing even

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<v Speaker 1>more scientists honestly that might deserve scare quotes to the area.

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Egyptomania spread across Europe. Grave robbers with degrees poured into

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>the country and found pretty important shit like the Rosetta Stone,

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<v Speaker 1>a text inscribed in three languages that basically unlocked hieroglyphics

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone, including modern Egyptians who hadn't used the writing

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 1>style in a thousand years. It was genuinely cool that

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 1>suddenly everyone could read this ancient shit and learn so much.

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<v Speaker 1>There are still untranslated scripts from the ancient world that

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<v Speaker 1>one day, I hope we find the Rosetta Stone for

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 1>but why is that stone in London and not in

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Egypt to this day? And the thing is, most Egyptomania

0:30:55.280 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 1>was not serious scientific inquiry. Most Orientalism isn't a sincere

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 1>appreciation for the cultural production of the Near East. Most

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 1>exotification isn't actually a form of respect. Victorians became obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with mummies, and mummies were being stolen from Egypt at

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>a fantastic rate, like literally just robbing the country of

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>it's dead. Rich people would own mummies and keep them

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<v Speaker 1>in their houses and have big parties, mummy unwrapping parties.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a whole thing where they would unwrap the mummies

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<v Speaker 1>to do a seance and shit, it was like a

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 1>mystery box from three thousand years ago. There might be

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>jewels inside, but mostly you're doing it to flex how

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>fucking decadent and rich and cultured you are. And there

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>was a medical substance medical gets scare quotes here called

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>mumeia that's been around for hundreds of years. It's ground

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>up mummy powder. It's good for what ails you. If

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>you go to a mummy party, you'll maybe get a

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<v Speaker 1>little ground up mummy in a gift basket to take

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<v Speaker 1>home and you can make tea with it, or according

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>to a friend I trust, but I don't have the

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>written source he used, you can smoke it to get

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>high and connect with the spooky ancient dead. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a paint color called mummy brown that had ground up

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>mummy in it. So this is the literal deep personification

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<v Speaker 1>of Egyptians, right Like if someone was like, hey, I

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>got a bit of dead person. This like dead human flesh,

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>would you like some dead human flesh? You should eat

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>human flesh and that will be good for you people.

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Unless you're at a Catholic church, people will be like,

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>that's fucking weird, why would I do that? But when

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a mummy, it's just a spooky thing. It's a

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 1>fucking brown person. Anyway, you probably get the point. It

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<v Speaker 1>was Napoleon science guys, that's the technical term, who discovered

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>the Valley of Kings, so we owe our knowledge of

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>the first labor strike to them. It was Agypdomania that

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<v Speaker 1>inspired one of my favorite poems of all time, Osi

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Mendeas by Percy Shelley. Egypt's specific orientalism inspired both wildly

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 1>disrespectful assholes and people genuinely interested in learning more about

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the world and about humanity and improving it. But that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that even those people's hands are clean. The

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<v Speaker 1>Palestinian American guy who coined the word orientalism, Edward Sayid,

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<v Speaker 1>put it pretty clearly. Orientalism is a Western style for dominating, restructuring,

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<v Speaker 1>and having authority over the Orient and the British Museum

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 1>was crucial for this. The British could go see the

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 1>glory of their empire just by going on down to

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<v Speaker 1>the museum. Look at all that knowledge we've gathered. Truly,

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 1>we're making the world a better place. I would love

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>to believe that science knows no borders, and one day

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can live in that world. We just

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>have to destroy borders first, and imperialism and capitalism and

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>white supremacy. The British mind basically couldn't fathom that modern

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<v Speaker 1>Egypt existed in the lineage of ancient Egypt. And that

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 1>sounds wild, right, But like modern Egypt in their minds,

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<v Speaker 1>a bad, smelly place full of ungrateful wretches, But ancient

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Egypt was a magical land full of strange wisdom and

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>occult learnings. To quote the scholar Samantha rivenbark the Victorians

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>divided Egypt into quote, a glorious history and an uninteresting

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>present and said that quote British archaeologists excavating Egypt for

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:41.800
<v Speaker 1>its ancient artifacts largely regarded contemporary Egyptians as a nuisance

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>or a source of unskilled labor. So yeah, it was

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>shit like unearthing the wonders of the world, despite the

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 1>ignorant brown masses that fueled British nationalism and empire. And

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:57.359
<v Speaker 1>that's not science with its inherent if if you look

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 1>at it through uist into glasses internationalism. Instead, it's just

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 1>nationalism and chauvinism and orientalism and a lot of badisms

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:11.839
<v Speaker 1>and not the good isms. So they were looters, they

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>were grave robbers, and their stolen shit is still on

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 1>display as trophies of their fucking victory in the British Museum.

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:23.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm honestly grateful that the ancient Egyptians managed to rob

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.839
<v Speaker 1>their own king's graves so thoroughly first thousands of years ago,

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>because they weren't getting paid enough to live. If I

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<v Speaker 1>have a thesis to this episode, it's this grave robbery

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<v Speaker 1>is cool when you steal from your own dead kings

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>and bad when you steal artifacts from places you're colonizing anyway,

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>unrelated any of that. I'm sad to say that the

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:48.359
<v Speaker 1>gold ornamentation that Trump seems to be filling the White

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.880
<v Speaker 1>House with is probably just spray painted bullshit. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>problem with modern plutocrats, fewer liquid assets to steal. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the episodes. I hope you enjoyed hearing

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<v Speaker 1>about the first labor strike, and if you want to

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