Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
Speaker 1: of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, Ready,
Speaker 1: let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez
Speaker 1: here on or Wrestling Observer Live. We're here every day
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, New Pacific, three Eastern Sunday three Pacific,
Speaker 1: sixth Eastern Monday. Here on the show. We got a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about here today. It is a brand
Speaker 1: new week and man, there's gonna be some excitement this week.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about that later on. But anyway, we
Speaker 1: got a lot to get into today because the weekend
Speaker 1: was very, very busy. Where to begin? I'll actually go
Speaker 1: to my own tweet about what I had listed for
Speaker 1: this show here today, because if some of you are
Speaker 1: well aware, I mean I'm a professional, and I got
Speaker 1: plans and that sort of thing. But once this show
Speaker 1: is live, the show is just live. Where do you,
Speaker 1: the loyal listeners want to go? Well, let's see, We've
Speaker 1: got rod a Night SmackDown Friday w w E pay
Speaker 1: per view is coming Sunday. Rampage from Friday Night Wednesday's
Speaker 1: a w Dynamite. I wanted to fight live for Filthy
Speaker 1: Tom and John Moxley. I watched the semifinals, the finals,
Speaker 1: the main event, and the Zumi match on the Stardom Show.
Speaker 1: I watched the top matches from Don't Taku. We've got
Speaker 1: the lineup for the super Juniors, we have got the
Speaker 1: upcoming New Japan Show with j White challenging for the title.
Speaker 1: And uh, there's a triple Mania I saw zero of
Speaker 1: but Dave apparently really liked it. So man, a lot
Speaker 1: to get into here today, and uh, we'll just start
Speaker 1: wherever you want to start, and uh, whatever we don't
Speaker 1: get to we can we can talk about later. I
Speaker 1: should note that Filthy Tom and I are gonna be
Speaker 1: up at two Pacific five eastern and we will be
Speaker 1: discussing Oh I forgot Nu Japan Strong. I watched that
Speaker 1: show as well. We'll talk at New Japan Strong, we'll
Speaker 1: talk SmackDown, and we will talk Stardom. So you'll have
Speaker 1: an hour of that at two Pacific five eastern. If
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Speaker 1: so a lot to get into if you want textas
Speaker 1: your ideas. Zero seven six back in the one with
Speaker 1: more Observer Live. Back in the show, Brian Albarez here
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer Live. Mike supper Bed, also of Wrestling Observer
Speaker 1: dot Com. Looks like everyone wants to talk about juice.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, juice. Juice is back with New Japan.
Speaker 1: Every buddy debuted as a member of the Bullet Club
Speaker 1: or he returned, and this chat is absolutely hilarious. Today
Speaker 1: Brian got worked by Brian. Brian, Brian, do you know
Speaker 1: how you guys, you guys know faont Leroy? Heard you
Speaker 1: guys know font Leroy? Yeah, you know why font Leroy
Speaker 1: exists because of a line somebody on the chat used
Speaker 1: one time when they were like, uh, read the transcript.
Speaker 1: It's like the transcript. I'm gonna go back and read
Speaker 1: a transcript of the of the Twitch chat and then that,
Speaker 1: you know. Then it turned out I actually did have
Speaker 1: a guy, old font Leroy, But I told you he
Speaker 1: was in a lot better move than people thought he was.
Speaker 1: Who are you talking about, rob Bro? You want to
Speaker 1: go back and read the text you sent me? Anyway?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would. The short short memory of the
Speaker 1: are you talking about short memory of the folks here
Speaker 1: on Twitch. Oh they knew all along, but Brian got worked. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened with Juice Robinson. Okay, Juice
Speaker 1: Robinson said that his deal. I know, I'm not in
Speaker 1: pointing out whatever's freaking out about on the chat here today. Listen.
Speaker 1: He said that his contract was up on April, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was, and he sounded like he was
Speaker 1: just going to take a break, and listen, I realized
Speaker 1: he showed up. And I know all of you think
Speaker 1: that he was just working that entire interview. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he was or not, because I don't know
Speaker 1: if you heard the interview. But there was a reason
Speaker 1: that Juice was on the show, and the reason was
Speaker 1: to promote an event coming up, and he proceeded to
Speaker 1: not promote the event at all and talk about how
Speaker 1: he didn't want to wrestle anybody in New Japan. So
Speaker 1: it is possible. It is possible that that was not
Speaker 1: a worked interview, but that he didn't know what his
Speaker 1: future was and his deal was up on April, and
Speaker 1: in between the interview and and the show this weekend,
Speaker 1: he resigned. I don't know what happened. He said he
Speaker 1: was not going to wrestle under the new Japan banner anymore.
Speaker 1: And you know, bullet guys look at things, so you know,
Speaker 1: there you go, what do you want me to do?
Speaker 1: I'm not mad. I interviewed the guy and that's what
Speaker 1: he said. Are you angry? No, not at all. The
Speaker 1: funny thing is everyone expects me to be angry or
Speaker 1: humiliated that he said that he was done and then
Speaker 1: he wasn't. Bro Oh, how humiliating that I interviewed a
Speaker 1: guy and he said one thing and that did another
Speaker 1: A wrestler, a wrestler of people. Can you believe it
Speaker 1: only smokes? I should quit this job the next next thing?
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me that? Boy, there's a lot I
Speaker 1: could talk about from this weekend. Hey, you know it's funny,
Speaker 1: by the way, speaking of getting worked, and I don't
Speaker 1: even know. I don't even know who worked who here? Okay,
Speaker 1: but about two weeks ago I got I got word.
Speaker 1: It was on a Friday actually that the n x
Speaker 1: T cuts were expected. This is about two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: And the day came and went and there were no cuts,
Speaker 1: and I totally forgot about it after that, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, two weeks later, they cut like
Speaker 1: ten people. And there's a lot of funny. I mean,
Speaker 1: the story is sad, the people that lost their jobs
Speaker 1: everything that, but the actual story there's some kind of
Speaker 1: funny stuff about it. So uh when they cut folks,
Speaker 1: uh old Johnny l john Lornitis. He sends out an
Speaker 1: email and he alerts everybody as to who has been cut. Okay,
Speaker 1: So so on Friday, I think the cuts occurred like
Speaker 1: right around the end of the show because I started
Speaker 1: getting names right as our show ended, and I shortly
Speaker 1: thereafter it got list of names and at that point
Speaker 1: about six or seven people have been cut, and there
Speaker 1: were about ten names on the list, and I know
Speaker 1: that people get really mad, like, oh, isn't your job
Speaker 1: to report those names haven't been reported yet, Dude, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's my job or not, but like,
Speaker 1: can you let them be alerted before it shows up
Speaker 1: on the internet, because that's all people complain about is
Speaker 1: I found out I was cut on the internet before
Speaker 1: I was actually told. So no, I don't care if
Speaker 1: I'm a bad journalist. I'm not gonna throw the names
Speaker 1: before they're actually alerted that they've been cut. But the
Speaker 1: funny thing is if it's funny or not. But so
Speaker 1: I got the list of of it was like ten
Speaker 1: names or whatever, and then you know, a few hours later,
Speaker 1: there were ten names that came out there had been cut.
Speaker 1: And I know why I thought about doing it, but
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna match them up. So and
Speaker 1: actually I know why because the list that I got
Speaker 1: didn't Dexter Loomis wasn't on the list. And then later
Speaker 1: you know, they there's all the people, Oh, Dexter has
Speaker 1: been cut. What are they gonna do? It was like
Speaker 1: Dexter's cut. He wasn't on the list I got, And
Speaker 1: so I just went to match up the names because
Speaker 1: there were ten on my list and tent on the
Speaker 1: other list or whatever. And uh. And in fact, the
Speaker 1: list that I received did not have Dexter Loomis, but
Speaker 1: it had another name who I'm not going to mention,
Speaker 1: who was listed as being cut, and then they weren't cut.
Speaker 1: So the point of all of this is these blokes
Speaker 1: have no idea what's going on. And you know, you
Speaker 1: can you can see that they knew in advance that
Speaker 1: Harlan was was going to be out of here, because
Speaker 1: one day Harlan just he vanished. He vanished off the
Speaker 1: face of the earth and uh. And then later it
Speaker 1: turns out he was cut. So they clearly knew about Harlan.
Speaker 1: But but then on Friday, you know, I guess that
Speaker 1: everybody was like a lunch break or whatever, and then
Speaker 1: like during the lunch break, a bunch of blokes got
Speaker 1: cut and uh. And there were people there that were
Speaker 1: completely caught off card because they've been writing storylines, including
Speaker 1: long term storylines with folks, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the next thing they know, they're gone. They weren't. They
Speaker 1: weren't alerted in advance at all. So now you know,
Speaker 1: the best one is they cut Persia Parata and they
Speaker 1: cut Dexter. Okay, Dexter was married to Indie and Persia
Speaker 1: was married or dating or whatever to do Hudson. So
Speaker 1: now Duke's girlfriend has been cut, Indie's husband has been cut,
Speaker 1: and so now there was no storyline. They couldn't even
Speaker 1: do his storyline, where like Dexter and Persia eloped, they
Speaker 1: like ran off for whatever. I guess they could still
Speaker 1: say that on television. But man, it's just another one
Speaker 1: of those things where you you hear about certain people
Speaker 1: and I won't mention names. It might be out, it
Speaker 1: might not. But folks that were cut that were like,
Speaker 1: thank god, I hated this place. I'm so happy to
Speaker 1: be gone. You know. I think fans are like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's so horrible. Trust me. There are people cut that
Speaker 1: are overjoyed that they're finally out of that place. And
Speaker 1: you know, this is one of those reasons why there's
Speaker 1: no respect paid for these people in in n x T.
Speaker 1: It's like they're not alerted. The creative team now just
Speaker 1: has to figure out what to do because they cut
Speaker 1: these people. I told you this six seven, eight months
Speaker 1: ago that the new thing is you're hired and every
Speaker 1: six months there's gonna be an evaluation or whatever, and
Speaker 1: if they feel you're not getting better, they're gonna cut you.
Speaker 1: And there's no warning. For the most part, it's just, oh,
Speaker 1: it's been six months. This guy can't getting better. He's
Speaker 1: out of here. She's not getting better. Out of here.
Speaker 1: And then it all falls upon creative to try and
Speaker 1: figure out what to do now with this redheaded step
Speaker 1: child of a television show, which is a proposed by
Speaker 1: the way, because there's so many damn colors on this show.
Speaker 1: But yeah, now they got to deal with all of this,
Speaker 1: and uh Suren and Burn. You know, you can debate
Speaker 1: whether that's a smart mentality to have, but at least
Speaker 1: if you know you're coming up on that six months
Speaker 1: and you're not bullish on somebody, why are they a
Speaker 1: part of the storyline? You know, stokely efway where you
Speaker 1: know Malcolm Vivens, you had time to write him out
Speaker 1: and you really didn't do that. But even him, you know,
Speaker 1: pales in comparison to what they've done now with with
Speaker 1: the deal with Indian Dexter and in Persian Duke Hudson.
Speaker 1: So now I assume it's going to be Indian the
Speaker 1: Duker together from this point forward. I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: I think he's doing my storyline where they eloped both
Speaker 1: ran off ran off. I mean, it's kind of weird. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it's what they do. I mean, storyline, Persian Duke were
Speaker 1: together before, so this all works out. So anyway, it's
Speaker 1: the usual, you know, Oh, you know, plans change, cop out,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I'll never forget that light plans change
Speaker 1: is a cop out. Well, here we are again, back
Speaker 1: in a moment with more Observer Live back in the show.
Speaker 1: Bran Albert is here Wrestling Observer Alive mix and Burvit
Speaker 1: also of Wrestling Observer dot Com. Sam Shaw already back
Speaker 1: out on his feet. Sam Shaw was in the middle
Speaker 1: of painting a portrait that was a shoot. He was
Speaker 1: painting a portrait of Vince mcmah when he found out
Speaker 1: he was fired. Yes, which you can see up on
Speaker 1: is Twitter that I assume now has been renamed. No,
Speaker 1: it's still at Extra Loomis. I guess he hasn't gone
Speaker 1: through that process yet, but already back out on the
Speaker 1: indies June a r W and Melbourne, Florida. So sam
Speaker 1: Shaw returns to a r W after I guess however
Speaker 1: many years he was in the next te four man,
Speaker 1: I watched it. I watched a lot of resting this
Speaker 1: weekend and it was just like one one after anothers
Speaker 1: Jon Moxley having this awesome match with Filthy Tom, a
Speaker 1: guy you just couldn't wait to get out of w
Speaker 1: W E. And then I'm watching New Japan Strong and
Speaker 1: the former Grin Metal leak is is there is as
Speaker 1: Masca Dorada and holy smokes, this guy was awesome, and
Speaker 1: they're the ones. The ones who were good are all
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. And uh, you know absolutely the ones,
Speaker 1: the ones that get fired and do nothing, they were
Speaker 1: never gonna make it. That's pretty much the way there
Speaker 1: it is. Look at these indies right now. You know
Speaker 1: that's the r O H is gonna be again. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see how that what ripple effect
Speaker 1: that decides to play upon the indies once that thing
Speaker 1: gets going. But look at all these indies out here,
Speaker 1: you know, defy the show that you went to. You know,
Speaker 1: you didn't even mention that g CW had a couple
Speaker 1: of shows as well as you know, other shows all
Speaker 1: over the place. And the more people are released, the
Speaker 1: more it can actually help the indie scene. So if
Speaker 1: you can go, there are people out there that will
Speaker 1: pay you and put you in matches to see you go.
Speaker 1: Purser says, did Tom need a transfusion? Believe it or not?
Speaker 1: So the match, the match ends, and Tom goes to
Speaker 1: the back and and Moxley does a promo and so
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there watching Moxy's promo. So Tom apparently went
Speaker 1: to the there's a bathroom in the back. Obviously, what
Speaker 1: a friend you are. I want to hear the promo.
Speaker 1: So after the promo is over, I I headed to
Speaker 1: the back and Tom's nowhere to be seen. And turns
Speaker 1: out he was in the bathroom cleaning up and about
Speaker 1: by the way, there's a there's a white wall in
Speaker 1: the back where they do interviews right backstage, and Jim
Speaker 1: the interviews guys, there's a huge freaking blood stained like
Speaker 1: this big on this wall. But anyway, so Tom Vince
Speaker 1: comes out of the bathroom. He looks good as new,
Speaker 1: like he's got a band aid here and that was it.
Speaker 1: So cleaned up very well, but it took him so
Speaker 1: long to clean up. The people who are supposed to
Speaker 1: drive him to the airport for his flight nine minutes
Speaker 1: later left. Oh man, So guess who was a great friend? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're looking at him. Yeah. I erased filthy Tom to
Speaker 1: the airport, dropped him off so he wouldn't miss his
Speaker 1: flight to get to get his charge him a mile
Speaker 1: smashed by poor Davy Richards. Oh by the way, he actually,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't charge him by the mile. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, I'll I'm not gonna tell you here.
Speaker 1: You gotta get tune to the filthy show to find
Speaker 1: out what happened. Boy, no good deed goes unpunished. I
Speaker 1: can tell you that much. Oh bro, it was worse
Speaker 1: than oozing. I'll tell you what happened. Well, that thing
Speaker 1: got busted. It open against Davy Richards on Sunday, but
Speaker 1: he uh fortunately came out on top. So still the
Speaker 1: BLP Midwest champion, so longest raginning one of all time.
Speaker 1: That's what Tom does? You know what Moxi is a
Speaker 1: linear BLP Midwest champion, the linear New Japan strong open
Speaker 1: weight champion. You know, thank god I became his his
Speaker 1: linear best friend and you know partner compared to you.
Speaker 1: I absolutely bro. Listen, there's there's saying nice run down
Speaker 1: that guy so much, oh Dave's words, saying nice things
Speaker 1: and kissing up to people because they're famous being a friend.
Speaker 1: You got a lie just because look, you have never
Speaker 1: looked at him the same way after he threw up
Speaker 1: all over your floor and couch. Dude, I started teaming
Speaker 1: with him on the indies. I got him over after
Speaker 1: you did that, so you can actually siphen some money
Speaker 1: for him, so you can pay back on the couch.
Speaker 1: That's of the Super Juniors tournament. A lot of names here.
Speaker 1: One of the most interesting names, in fact, is Wheeler Utah.
Speaker 1: And I was just literally talking to somebody this weekend
Speaker 1: about the idea of getting Wheeler Utah and the Best
Speaker 1: of the super Juniors because this guy's in the Blackpool
Speaker 1: Combat Club and there's no better way for this guy
Speaker 1: to No, they didn't, but I mean, it was obvious
Speaker 1: he should be in there, But the issue was that
Speaker 1: in order for him to be invest of the super Juniors,
Speaker 1: he can't work the a W pay per view, And
Speaker 1: so that was the question, like, obviously, what's best for
Speaker 1: Wheeler Utah one night showing up at the Double or
Speaker 1: nothing or working Best of the super Juniors with to Gucci, Takahashi,
Speaker 1: Yo Taijishi, Mori, Clark Conners. I mean, the list goes
Speaker 1: on and on, but it would require him missing a
Speaker 1: big date for a W, and Tony Cohn apparently decided
Speaker 1: what's best for Wheeler Utah is to do the Best
Speaker 1: of the super Juniors, and so he's in there. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. He can lose every single match, it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna go there and he's gonna work from
Speaker 1: May fifteenth through June three, having a bunch of great
Speaker 1: matches with good workers, and he's gonna come back way better.
Speaker 1: So I was very happy to see his name in there.
Speaker 1: Man Street Credit. You know a lot of people will say,
Speaker 1: what's the big deal? Because a lot of people who
Speaker 1: grew up on cruiseweight wrestling and Junior heavyweight wrestling, you know,
Speaker 1: they know what it means to be a part of
Speaker 1: the super Juniors. And excuse me, this lineup is incredible
Speaker 1: this year. And granted we finally have some people back
Speaker 1: in there, so just you know, the fact we have
Speaker 1: an influx of names is really really nice here. But
Speaker 1: Alexane was a pleasant surprise to see in there, even
Speaker 1: though he's been on New Japan Strong Ace Austin obviously,
Speaker 1: Clarke Connors, Robbie Eagles, Titan, who I'm a big fan of. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, you go through these names, Eldo, how dare
Speaker 1: you read the wrong side of the bracket. It's Robbie
Speaker 1: Eagles and Desperado and phantasmo j check ass. I was
Speaker 1: just naming some of the ones from outside who are
Speaker 1: in there. Now, would you like to run down the
Speaker 1: brackets now? I already did that. But anyway, what I
Speaker 1: would like to say also is, hey, do you guys
Speaker 1: here Juice Robinson is back. He's back with New Japan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and the Good Brothers are going over there, and
Speaker 1: j White's over there, and and a number of others
Speaker 1: have gotten their their their work visas, and this will
Speaker 1: be the first time that everyone can go over there
Speaker 1: and not after quarantine at all. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: at some point, will you know, we should get El
Speaker 1: Phantasmo here on the show, because he could probably talk
Speaker 1: about this for a while, because this this bloke was
Speaker 1: going over a lot. And when you add in all
Speaker 1: of the times that he had to quarantine, and I
Speaker 1: think there was there was one. I think there was
Speaker 1: like one time where like a bunch of people got
Speaker 1: COVID and so it was a quarantine and then stuck
Speaker 1: in the in the hotel for two more weeks. It
Speaker 1: was like twenty eight days in uh in a tiny
Speaker 1: little and you guys, you know, if you've never been
Speaker 1: to uh to Japan, I don't think these are big,
Speaker 1: luxurious hotel rooms. They're tiny. And so you know, if
Speaker 1: you add up the number of days of his life
Speaker 1: that he has spent in quarantine going to and from Japan.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably thrilled. So you canna see a
Speaker 1: lot more folks heading over there, because you know, there
Speaker 1: were a lot of matches people wanted to see with
Speaker 1: folks from from a W. But you couldn't go over
Speaker 1: there because in order to go over there for one night,
Speaker 1: you had a quarantine for two weeks to do the
Speaker 1: one night, which you're gonna miss two weeks of a
Speaker 1: W television. Who wants to do that anyway? Now you
Speaker 1: can just go over and come back, and it's obviously
Speaker 1: eighteen hours there and back and everything like that in
Speaker 1: the show. But that's way easier than two weeks of quarantine. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: the fans are still not allowed to hear in Boo,
Speaker 1: so I believe it or not, that's actually been a
Speaker 1: that's been a stumbling block for some of the people
Speaker 1: that have had the opportunity to perhaps work New Japan.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't want to go over there if
Speaker 1: the fans can't cheer and boo. But the funny thing is, like,
Speaker 1: you know, how uh there was a pandemic. I think
Speaker 1: you're aware, and they had to do those empty arena
Speaker 1: shows and so there were a whole bunch of things
Speaker 1: that they started doing differently in the in the pandemic era,
Speaker 1: and there were a few that I remember thinking, Man,
Speaker 1: you know what, when this pandemic is over, I hope
Speaker 1: they keep doing that. Well. One of the things that
Speaker 1: I hope the fans continue to do is their clapping
Speaker 1: gimmick when they when you watch New Japan shows, because
Speaker 1: the fans are not allowed to cheer or boo, they're
Speaker 1: only allowed to clap. So now it's been so long
Speaker 1: that they're starting to figure out some cool things they
Speaker 1: can do with their clapping. They you know, they clap
Speaker 1: a lot after after every spot that's done. There's like
Speaker 1: a lot of clapping, so know, there's actually more sound
Speaker 1: from the beginning to the end of a match, but
Speaker 1: there are no the big cheering and exploding there at
Speaker 1: the end that I want back. But they're doing the
Speaker 1: thing now where like you know, they do the strike
Speaker 1: exchange and the fans called boom, and you hear it
Speaker 1: sounds like a gunshot every time someone throws one of
Speaker 1: the forearms. So I hope when they're allowed to scream
Speaker 1: and yell and cheer, they still do the clapping. Because
Speaker 1: putting those two things together would be an awesome environment
Speaker 1: for New Japan shows. I wish Toriyama would have watched Russellmania,
Speaker 1: because he should be the guy that would actually, you know,
Speaker 1: come up with the idea of breaking out two big,
Speaker 1: huge hands like they had for Jackass, and he could
Speaker 1: have them out there and if the crowd is getting
Speaker 1: a little bit too quiet during some of the bullet
Speaker 1: club shenanigans or annoyed or something like that, he could
Speaker 1: start breaking those out and and and clap them together
Speaker 1: and then maybe he can, you know, bring you over there,
Speaker 1: and then you could be the guy with the clap.
Speaker 1: What in God's name are you talking about? Nothing? Move
Speaker 1: on alright tonight, very quickly. Raw. All we know is
Speaker 1: there's an appearance by Roman Reigns and the USOS. Why
Speaker 1: is there an appearance by Roman Reigns in the USOS. Well,
Speaker 1: they've been building up this title unification match for weeks
Speaker 1: and weeks and weeks and weeks now and then on
Speaker 1: SmackDown they change your new a six man. So obviously
Speaker 1: the question is what star power. I presume the storyline
Speaker 1: will be the winning six man team will get all
Speaker 1: the belts. So if Drew mc there Pins, Jimmy Uso,
Speaker 1: Drew wins Romans Belt, and Riddle and Randy Orton are
Speaker 1: the unified tag team champions. I presume that's what they're doing,
Speaker 1: but they have not told us what they're doing yet,
Speaker 1: and they may not know. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: heard the story about the cuts on Friday, plans change,
Speaker 1: but that's them. So yeah, we can talk about SmackDown
Speaker 1: if you want to. I really don't want to go
Speaker 1: off on Sammy Zanees match, Garby Allen and Swerves Strickland
Speaker 1: Rampage a lot to get into. We'll continue after the
Speaker 1: Breakserver Live like in the show. Brian Elbert is here
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer Alive mixum for viv also of Wrestling Observer
Speaker 1: dot Com. Person here is outraged the idea of all
Speaker 1: the belts being on the line in a sixth man.
Speaker 1: In theory, Randy Coulpin Jimmy Drew gets both world titles
Speaker 1: from Roman. I know they won't do that, but in storyline,
Speaker 1: they created a match where it could. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: think they're gonna do it at all, but I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: but do you know they won't do that. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's a good bet to match. I I know
Speaker 1: they're not going to do that. I'm there. I expect
Speaker 1: the USO's to unify the tag team titles and then
Speaker 1: if Randy Orton and Riddle are gonna chase him, they
Speaker 1: can chase him. But I don't think Romans dropping that
Speaker 1: title in a in a six man, I mean not
Speaker 1: dropping the title one way the other much less than
Speaker 1: a six man. I would hope not, but I mean,
Speaker 1: stranger things have happened. Do you think you know you
Speaker 1: said a percent? You know people that say I'm giving
Speaker 1: a percent or I'm going to give a d How
Speaker 1: do you feel about those people? Do you think Lance
Speaker 1: is upset with those people for not understanding mathematics? Nope,
Speaker 1: I don't think that at all. But mathematically, I can
Speaker 1: tell you the best match I saw a weekend. What's that?
Speaker 1: It's not a Zoomi and Mason girl, but that match
Speaker 1: was awesome. Speed baby uh Tanahashi Nashi, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: this match was so awesome. This match was a thousand stars.
Speaker 1: And think you may be overrating, No, I'm not. It
Speaker 1: was a thousand stars. These two guys are the greatest,
Speaker 1: They're the absolute greatest, and I wasble I was just
Speaker 1: talking the other day about that. It was it was
Speaker 1: a she and and Adam. They said they heard you
Speaker 1: and said we're gonna have the best match for Brian Now.
Speaker 1: It was a she and Adam Cole and I was
Speaker 1: trying to explain what I was trying to explain it.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't explain it. It's like, is she whenever
Speaker 1: he wrestles anybody, it's like, I don't know, but he
Speaker 1: melds into their match. Well, it's like there there is
Speaker 1: an a she match, but but he will have the
Speaker 1: other person's match. The Adam Cole match was totally an
Speaker 1: Adam Cole match, but it was also in a sheet match.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to explain it, but it's
Speaker 1: he's going to let you shine as much as you're
Speaker 1: going to let him shine, and he's going to work
Speaker 1: your style of match vice versa. Where is a Tanahashi
Speaker 1: knock him work? I know how to explain it, all right,
Speaker 1: So uh there's uh, here's a good one. Remember that
Speaker 1: Rick Flair Raymistereo match from a long time ago, Dude,
Speaker 1: that match was bizarre. It was Rick Flair versus Raymistereo
Speaker 1: in a nitro and it was like a styles clash,
Speaker 1: and it was just like totally weird. So there's a
Speaker 1: styles clash and then there's a match where it would
Speaker 1: be like, ah, Zach Saber Jr. Trying to think of
Speaker 1: a great example, Zach Saber Jr. Versus Um. Actually, Occada
Speaker 1: is a good one because Okatta always works the other
Speaker 1: guy's style of match. So if you do a Zach
Speaker 1: Saber Jr. Versus Okada match, it's gonna be a like
Speaker 1: Ocadda is gonna work as Zach saber junior match with
Speaker 1: Zach saber Jr. Does that make sense? So she totally
Speaker 1: were an Adam Cole match with Adam Cole, but he
Speaker 1: also it was absolutely in a match as well. It's
Speaker 1: like it's it's it's usually one or the other. I
Speaker 1: guess that's what I'm trying to point out. It's usually
Speaker 1: one or the other. It's a Brian match, or it's
Speaker 1: a mic match. It's a Brian match, or it's a
Speaker 1: mic match with a she he managed to do an
Speaker 1: Adam Cole match, but it was also simultaneously and she met.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I was just marveling about this. I didn't
Speaker 1: even know how to put it into words. So then
Speaker 1: it's tana Hashi and a Shei okay, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: tana Hashi and she do not work the same style
Speaker 1: of match. They're very different workers. Tana Hashi is uh
Speaker 1: you know, if you've never seen a lot of Tona Hashis,
Speaker 1: it's like a Sean Michaels. It's a professional wrestling h
Speaker 1: old school work with some cool stuff, and he's so
Speaker 1: smooth and it all looks great. And then there's a
Speaker 1: She who's like a fire hydrant and h he just
Speaker 1: hits you as hard as he can and you hit
Speaker 1: him and he doesn't sell it and then he does.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's what you're gonna get with these two guys.
Speaker 1: So what happened here is it was not a Tona
Speaker 1: Haashi match. It was not a she match. It was
Speaker 1: not Tanahashi work working at She's match, or is she
Speaker 1: working Tanahashi's match? It was is she working as Tonahashi
Speaker 1: and Tanahashi working as is she? They switched places and
Speaker 1: then they did their match together. I'm punching the mic.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. So like I'm watching this match and
Speaker 1: it's just they always there's always a spot where like
Speaker 1: the guy he hits the she and he hits it
Speaker 1: and he she goes back and he goes back, and
Speaker 1: he goes back, and all of a sudden, he just
Speaker 1: stops selling and he goes ah and then he fires.
Speaker 1: Somebody starts sitting the other guy. They do that in
Speaker 1: every single SHE match. This time she is pounding Tonahashi
Speaker 1: and he's and Tana She's going back to the row,
Speaker 1: and all of sudden, Tona she gets in the corner
Speaker 1: and then Tonash goes ah. He starts firing up and
Speaker 1: A She's He's she's getting knocked back, He's getting knocked back,
Speaker 1: He's getting The place is going crazy. And then if
Speaker 1: she gets knocked all the way back to the corner,
Speaker 1: and then Tanah she hits him with one shot and
Speaker 1: then if she suddenly it's like a cartoon. You ever
Speaker 1: seen the cartoon, Actually we we didn't paper bag band
Speaker 1: it as well, where you know whoever, the little guys
Speaker 1: getting chased by the big guy, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: little guy stops. He's like, I'm gonna chase you, and
Speaker 1: then he starts chasing the big guy. The guys like
Speaker 1: and he starts running away from the little guy and
Speaker 1: it's like totally backwards. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: like the big guy realizes, wait a second, what am
Speaker 1: I running from this little geek for? And then he
Speaker 1: goes after the little guy again. It's old school of
Speaker 1: cartoons stuff. Well, Unt Tana she pummels the she all
Speaker 1: the way to the corner and she's selling, and it's
Speaker 1: like the script has been flipped, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he hits one more and she's like, what am I doing?
Speaker 1: I'm a she and he stopped selling. He just says
Speaker 1: a face, and all of sudden the crowds like, oh,
Speaker 1: but they can't say anything, you know, they can't chat
Speaker 1: chant you left up. They just have to go like
Speaker 1: you left up whatever. And then Tanashi like he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: what have I done? And then she starts pounding him
Speaker 1: back to the corner again. I'm dying watching this match.
Speaker 1: And then like they're doing the near falls at the end,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, is she whips out the
Speaker 1: sling blade. Is she and Tanash she takes his big
Speaker 1: bump for the sling blade and I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: And then you know he's a big brain buster. Everybody
Speaker 1: thinks it over and Tnash, she kicks out and then
Speaker 1: Tanashi grabs a she and Tnash she lives and boomy
Speaker 1: brain busters is she on his head? I love this
Speaker 1: match with all of my all of my being. And
Speaker 1: you know I am the first guy. I am the
Speaker 1: first guy that complains. Why are these matches so long?
Speaker 1: Why does every match you have to go forty minutes?
Speaker 1: I'm sick of it. Like go eighteen to twenty three
Speaker 1: or whatever, and get in and get out. You don't
Speaker 1: need to always goes along. This match goes twenty three minutes.
Speaker 1: And if I hate these stupid chance like fight forever.
Speaker 1: But bro, if ever there was a match that I
Speaker 1: was hoping these two dudes would just fight forever and
Speaker 1: just go forty minutes for once. This is a match
Speaker 1: he needs to go forty minutes. And they stopped at
Speaker 1: twenty three. I was appalled. No man more so awesome,
Speaker 1: so awesome, Hey make you all more, That's what the
Speaker 1: g one is about. Then they give you thirty you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? They could do it if they
Speaker 1: wanted to. How do you make a result that's really
Speaker 1: not in doubt? How do you make it special? How
Speaker 1: do you make it different? How do you give the
Speaker 1: people something for them to sink their teeth into, because
Speaker 1: I think everybody thought Tamahashi was gonna walk out of
Speaker 1: there with the wind, and he did. But how do
Speaker 1: they do it? They do it in the way that
Speaker 1: Brian said. And this will be shocking for some people
Speaker 1: who have been under a rock for a long time
Speaker 1: or just don't view anything outside of the States. But
Speaker 1: Hiroshi Tamahashi is arguably the greatest pro wrestler of all time.
Speaker 1: He's one of these He's no doubt one of the
Speaker 1: greatest baby faces to ever walk the face of the earth.
Speaker 1: And in this modern era, I would put him up
Speaker 1: against anybody, and as long as his body is willing
Speaker 1: and is able to help him out, his brain will
Speaker 1: carry him forever. He can walk out there like Jimmy
Speaker 1: Valiant now and just walk out s from the the
Speaker 1: invisible guitar, the air guitar, and people will lose their
Speaker 1: minds for the next thirty years. He's amazing. I don't
Speaker 1: know if she's gonna hold up that long, but frankly,
Speaker 1: the fact that he's in the position he's in after
Speaker 1: all of those years, you know, New Japan's and a
Speaker 1: lot of things that drive me nuts. Hey, look at
Speaker 1: all the titles right now pretty much are tied up
Speaker 1: with something that's got to do with the Bullet Club
Speaker 1: or something that's got to do with the House of Torture.
Speaker 1: But one thing they've been able to do is keep
Speaker 1: their stars as stars, and they make sure up and
Speaker 1: down the roster there's a depth and there's credibility. You know.
Speaker 1: I I think that the highest praise that I can
Speaker 1: give this match if I have not praised it enough
Speaker 1: as I think this is now the number one match
Speaker 1: I may have ever seen. Where if you have somebody
Speaker 1: that does not watch wrestling, okay, and and they are
Speaker 1: they are willing, I mean, if they're like a pacifist,
Speaker 1: they don't like violence, I mean, don't show them this match.
Speaker 1: But if they're willing to see a confrontation between two men,
Speaker 1: a battle, if they're willing to watch that, this maybe,
Speaker 1: Like I can't imagine anybody who is willing to watch
Speaker 1: two people confront each other that would not absolutely love
Speaker 1: this match. There's no blood, there's no like excessive violence
Speaker 1: or anything like that. It's just a battle of wills
Speaker 1: and it's got like you know, if if it's your
Speaker 1: wife old tana Hashi is a handsome man. And then
Speaker 1: you know if if you're if it's your your whoever sheet,
Speaker 1: there's no one tougher than she. I mean, it's everything
Speaker 1: you could want, you even want in life. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like showing it to my wife. Like I bet
Speaker 1: you anything if I showed my wife, who watches no wrestling,
Speaker 1: hates wrestling, wants nothing to do with wrestling. I'll bet
Speaker 1: if I showed her this match by the end, she'd
Speaker 1: be like, dude, how's awesome? It was so great? This
Speaker 1: is your rocky for Brian feel it? You feel like
Speaker 1: running up the steps right now. I feel like just
Speaker 1: letting you finish the show and I'll go watch the
Speaker 1: damn match again. Man, look at that. We're gonna get up. Man,
Speaker 1: if you go out to make a montage right now,
Speaker 1: were you thinking about this match? The match just you know,
Speaker 1: flickering in your eye with you getting ready, the music
Speaker 1: behind you, maybe the music that was playing all of
Speaker 1: Friday during that one segment when when we were trying
Speaker 1: to get a show done, that type of music. There inspiration,
Speaker 1: the great inspiration that is Tanahashi and she this person says,
Speaker 1: how much do you have to know about the two
Speaker 1: characters and their stick to get the match. Well, here's
Speaker 1: the deal. Zero, no, no, no, no, Hey listen, if
Speaker 1: you know tana Hashi and ash and and everything, it'll
Speaker 1: be like multitudes better. Okay, But you don't need to
Speaker 1: know nothing about either of them. The great story of
Speaker 1: this match, jechoscope dory funk. You know, the story, obviously
Speaker 1: is is that you know she's just the toughest guy
Speaker 1: and uh and you know they do the whole whatever.
Speaker 1: But you don't need to know anything about a she
Speaker 1: to look look at Tonahashi, look at a she. The
Speaker 1: stories told like if you look at them and they
Speaker 1: already understand the character they're gonna play, they tell the
Speaker 1: story with how they work, and they tell the story again.
Speaker 1: When if you understand the story, some of the things
Speaker 1: they are doing to each other then stand out more
Speaker 1: than they mean more. But it doesn't matter. If you
Speaker 1: had never seen Owen and Brett before, you saw what
Speaker 1: FTR was doing to each other and thought that was
Speaker 1: kind of cool. For the people that knew, it was
Speaker 1: extra special. That's what makes Tanahashi just great. He is
Speaker 1: the best and take any match of his almost against anybody.
Speaker 1: His top tier matches, Omega Naka Mora, you name the
Speaker 1: opponent and presented to somebody who's never seen them before,
Speaker 1: it's almost undeniable. How is anybody not going to come
Speaker 1: out of that a fan of Hiroshi Tanahashi. He is
Speaker 1: the ultimate pro wrestler. And yes, everybody I'll talk about
Speaker 1: starting with Tom leave me alone. But I will say
Speaker 1: that the pay for that man stitches here Mason Ruga
Speaker 1: match was awesome. It was the best match on the
Speaker 1: show and they did the greatest referee spot I ever saw,
Speaker 1: and it was impossible to make it work, but they did.
Speaker 1: So you need to watch that match above anything else
Speaker 1: on that show that I saw back in a moment,
Speaker 1: it was they were live. I talked a lot of wrestling.
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