WEBVTT - Chapter 1: Into The Past

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, lethal listeners, tig torres here stay tuned for the

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<v Speaker 1>next episode of Lethal Lit. But before we dive into

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<v Speaker 1>today's episode, here's a quick word from our sponsor. You're

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<v Speaker 1>about to hear a recording of my aunt Beth taped

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<v Speaker 1>at a murder scene she was covering for the local paper.

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<v Speaker 1>Two months later, she was dead. It was ruled a suicide.

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<v Speaker 1>La was a twenty seven year old woman, brown hair,

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<v Speaker 1>brown eyes, five four approximately thirty five pounds, in visible

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<v Speaker 1>tattoos or markings. Cause of death unknown. She was found

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<v Speaker 1>with two small puncture ruins on the right side of

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<v Speaker 1>her neck, dried blood near the entry points. Before you

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<v Speaker 1>get too excited and bust out your twilight merch, this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't a vampire story. After she died, my aunt was

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<v Speaker 1>accused of being a serial murderer known as the lip Killer.

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<v Speaker 1>A note found inside the victim's purse, consistent with the

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<v Speaker 1>previous ones, reads, you're always a careful student. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>are master the colts from John Seward, a character in

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<v Speaker 1>Bram Stoker's Dracula. The lip Killer murders gripped the small

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<v Speaker 1>town of Hollow Falls a decade ago. By the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the killing spree six people, including my aunt Beth.

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<v Speaker 1>We're dead. The police discovered a handwritten note next to

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<v Speaker 1>our body and decided it was her confession. But my

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<v Speaker 1>aunt was no killer. The mission of this podcast is simple,

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<v Speaker 1>to uncover the truth, to clear my aunt's name, to

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<v Speaker 1>put the real killer behind bars, or die trying. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>tig Torres and this is Lethal Lit. Greetings, Lethal Lit listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the first episode of our podcast. Well, if

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<v Speaker 1>there are any of you out there listening, I'm new

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<v Speaker 1>to this whole podcast thing. My home, my past is

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<v Speaker 1>a burnt out burg known as Hollow Falls. Back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, it was known for making iron. Now it's

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<v Speaker 1>known for board teens getting laid, dealing drugs, and oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>grizzly murders. My dad knew it was time to bail

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<v Speaker 1>once the town decided my aunt was a serial killer.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted a better life for me, one that was

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<v Speaker 1>more gossip Girl West twin Peaks. So we ditched for

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<v Speaker 1>New York. But my dad lost his job. So now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back in this time warp of a town, living

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<v Speaker 1>in my aboilas creeky old house. While he's looking for

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<v Speaker 1>new work, I'm here taking the opportunity to make things right.

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<v Speaker 1>The only way you can truly understand the lit Killer

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<v Speaker 1>is by understanding where they sprang from Hollow Falls. And

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<v Speaker 1>since the iron works closed, the only thing in this

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<v Speaker 1>town that still has a faint heartbeat is Hollow Falls High.

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<v Speaker 1>I managed to sneak through the first week of the

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<v Speaker 1>school year, plenty of dirty looks for the new girl,

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<v Speaker 1>a few old kindergarten classmates who wouldn't look at me

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<v Speaker 1>at all, but I guess that's to be expected. Here

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<v Speaker 1>we go on week two. In Pride and Prejudice, the

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<v Speaker 1>book Guys, Elizabeth Bennett says, there is a stubbornness about

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<v Speaker 1>me that never can bear to be frightened. My courage

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<v Speaker 1>always rises at every attempt to intimidate me. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about now, because even though I'm stubborn, I'm scared,

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<v Speaker 1>and I need my courage to lead me towards some help.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to find out of my way. Psycho Junior Movement.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Tony del Canto us D, A approved jock with

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<v Speaker 1>resting more on face. He'll be important leader. Hell Man,

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<v Speaker 1>what's where I'm going? You're the one. No one wants

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<v Speaker 1>you here? Freak show we all know about you and

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<v Speaker 1>your messed up family. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>My debut at the school was a rocky one. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>already knew exactly who tig Torres was. But while my

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<v Speaker 1>family wasn't loved around here, I still didn't expect to

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<v Speaker 1>be body slammed by the high school quarterback before eight am.

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to find some allies stat so after school

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to check out the student newspaper, The Talent First, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to think, Hi, newspaper staff, I'm t

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<v Speaker 1>we knew who you are. City Mouse. That's Max Winman.

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<v Speaker 1>He it can be a little extra. Sometimes you'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what's up. Dorus bored a small film authority, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>win Abbott. Both Max and Winner on the newspaper staff.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't hate me as much as they seem to. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually looking for info on the serial murders that

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<v Speaker 1>took place here ten years ago. You mean the murders

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<v Speaker 1>your aunt committed. She didn't kill anyone, she was framed.

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<v Speaker 1>The real killer is still out there. This podcast I'm

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<v Speaker 1>starting is gonna put you. That's our friend Tony. I

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<v Speaker 1>told you he'd pop up again. You've got to swap

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<v Speaker 1>out the picture of me from Tuesday's game. Bro Coach

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<v Speaker 1>keeps calling me volcano face because of that giant sit

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<v Speaker 1>on my cheek, Show up my better side. You have

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<v Speaker 1>a better side. Yeah, that's the one that shows how

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<v Speaker 1>much more important football is in this town than whatever

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<v Speaker 1>feminazi slumber parties you plan in your kids. Lost, Tony,

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<v Speaker 1>you're killing an hostile vibe. That's Ali Price, editor of

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<v Speaker 1>the Talent. Oh my bad, sorry to interrupt your chat

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<v Speaker 1>with Jackie the Ripper over here. Just fix that shot.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's were picks of me actually throwing the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And as for you don't murder anyone, okay, psycho Tony out?

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<v Speaker 1>Did he just say Tony out a third person himself?

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<v Speaker 1>But just give the meadheads some credit for finally noticing

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<v Speaker 1>I've been spotlighting that boulders it for the last three

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<v Speaker 1>Yearsues does win with the clap? Is he always such

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<v Speaker 1>an alpha douche? Yeah, he's pretty much just a walking

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<v Speaker 1>flat line. So why are you here again because you

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk serial killers? Yeah? Like I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>starting a new podcast and you need research people to

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<v Speaker 1>help you out with that. We're all kind of serial

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<v Speaker 1>killer experts around here. But I think you can handle

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<v Speaker 1>things when the research gets a little gory, a little

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<v Speaker 1>messed up. Messed up like an entire town thinking your

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<v Speaker 1>aunt was a murderer and blaming your whole fan for

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<v Speaker 1>the last decade. That sounds more sad than anything. And

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta handle on gory, like how Jeffrey Dahmer used

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<v Speaker 1>to feed his neighbor's sand jizzy made from his victor

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<v Speaker 1>lunch is canceled. Okay, okay, maybe you can't hang with

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<v Speaker 1>this crew. Hold on a sect? Is this? This is

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<v Speaker 1>the moment where I know I'm in the right place.

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<v Speaker 1>These Junior Sarah Kaneggs not only had a map of

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<v Speaker 1>the town hanging up in the newspaper office, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was loaded with color coded pushpins and strings. Each one

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<v Speaker 1>pointed to a lip killer murder, plus a photo of

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<v Speaker 1>the victim, along with one of my aunt Beth and

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<v Speaker 1>one of me. This is for a memorial edition of

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<v Speaker 1>the talent, ten years since the lid killer murders, the

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<v Speaker 1>town's only real claim to fame. You know, it's it

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<v Speaker 1>forever to get it approved, but our adviser, Mr Levinson

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<v Speaker 1>pulled the strings for us. Wow, So that's how you

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<v Speaker 1>knew who I was. You've already done a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>the same research I have. I mean, you could have

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<v Speaker 1>picked a less freshmany photo. But whatever, it's cool. So

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<v Speaker 1>what's this week's topic? The lip Killer's Dracula style fourth murder?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it all podcasts and no play with you? Pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much until I prove my aunt's innocence And you think

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<v Speaker 1>you can do that? Oh? I know I can do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I could also really use some support. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm an instant outcast here. I figured, since you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are already interested in this kind of thing, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we could team up. What do you say, help a

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<v Speaker 1>new girl out? Cute? But why should we believe you?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you think your aunt's innocence. She's your aunt,

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<v Speaker 1>but the evidence says otherwise. Yeah. True, But what if

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence the town wants us to believe is wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>What if the people in charge of the evidence we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for an easy fix instead of the truth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really buying it. Maybe you're just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>convince yourself you will become a slaughter siren like your aunts. Fine, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought maybe the newspaper staff would be less

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<v Speaker 1>gullible than the rest of this zombie town. Dude, have

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<v Speaker 1>you been recording our conversation this whole time? It's not

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<v Speaker 1>even like legal Relax Innocence project. I just had it

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<v Speaker 1>on in case you guys said anything useful, but no

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<v Speaker 1>worries he didn't. Taurus has some bite. I like it,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Can you call us when you like have

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<v Speaker 1>some actual proof. In the meantime, can we get back

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<v Speaker 1>to whatever we were doing before this whole encounter? How's this?

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<v Speaker 1>Stop the presses? Everyone? It's the missing link a printed photo,

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<v Speaker 1>not guiltily. Wait is that bes Taurus? Do not call

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<v Speaker 1>her that? TESTI? TESTI Okay? So uh all right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>your aunt and you and we care because check your pinboard, Watson.

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<v Speaker 1>It was taken at the annual Hollow Falls Harvest Festival.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at the time stamp? WHOA? The lip Killer's fourth victim,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Wozniak, was murdered on June eleven, two and eight.

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<v Speaker 1>The coroner's report gave the time of death that noon,

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<v Speaker 1>the time stamp on my photo one PM. Not enough

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<v Speaker 1>to prove her innocence, but just enough to make you

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<v Speaker 1>scratch your head and think that maybe, just maybe my

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<v Speaker 1>Auntbeth wasn't the lip killer, so had I gotten some

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<v Speaker 1>backup from Win Ali and Max? But I wasn't sure yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But I still needed to dive into the Hollow Falls

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<v Speaker 1>i'd missed out on after my dad and I skipped town.

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<v Speaker 1>The best way to do that would be by talking

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<v Speaker 1>to someone who had survived the last decade intact mostly. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>can you state your name for the tape? Please, Abuela

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<v Speaker 1>no Ahuilla, your real name, Oh, Sophia Urabella. Thanks for clarifying.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk a little bit about Hollow Falls,

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<v Speaker 1>color Falls city, sip sucks, that's what You'rbeth. Bobby always

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<v Speaker 1>said to me, Mommy, I'm bored, Mommy, why do we

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<v Speaker 1>live here? I've heard it all before, Minina, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ready for you. This is my Aboila. She's wonderful, smart, funny, and,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, a little crazy, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>get a better sense of how the town had changed

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<v Speaker 1>since my dad and I left a Boila, I told

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<v Speaker 1>you this is for the podcast, which for you would

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of like an old radio show. I know

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<v Speaker 1>what a podcast is, right, Okay, So what can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about the town? What's the vibe like here,

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<v Speaker 1>vibe is bad, very very bad. But I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how much you want me to say. I need you

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, Ninya. I am always honest, you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>But in this town you don't want to say too much.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there are a lot of people in this

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<v Speaker 1>town who don't like our family to Haboila. Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Hollow Falls used to be a nice place. But this

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<v Speaker 1>was years ago, when there were jobs, when people helped

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<v Speaker 1>each other. When you're Abuelow, God rest his soul first

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<v Speaker 1>moved us to Hollow Falls. But times change. When the

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<v Speaker 1>iron works closed, the jobs point away, and the town

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<v Speaker 1>it got different, different, how not trust. You didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>hi to your neighbors anymore. You locked your doors. The

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<v Speaker 1>whole town had gone to the birds. So many birds, birds, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so many birds. The whole town was infested with wings,

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<v Speaker 1>feathers to saois all over the place. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what created that monstro, that murderer who took my best.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, mostly intact, my interview with Aboila Sophia done,

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<v Speaker 1>and after getting nothing from the principal's office at school,

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<v Speaker 1>his assistant did a convincing impression of a brick wall.

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<v Speaker 1>It was time to hit the streets and dig up

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<v Speaker 1>some facts from the town itself. I decided my next

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<v Speaker 1>stop would be the Hollow Falls Police Department. They dropped

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in a major way when it came to

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<v Speaker 1>the lip killer case and totally took the easy way out.

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<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't mean they don't have info I could use. Hey, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you get back in? Um? I had an

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<v Speaker 1>appointment to see Detective Carver. Is she around here? Have

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<v Speaker 1>an appointment with Laura? That's odd? No, she's not around.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a partner Detective Jake Lahne. Can I help you? Yeah? Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working on a project about the lit killer case,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to talk to someone about where the

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<v Speaker 1>investigation stand. Well. I wasn't around back then, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know the cases officially closed. That reported did it? Why

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<v Speaker 1>would you want to do a project about such? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you sure she did it? Have you looked over the evidence?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't. When we studied at the academy a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a haky case. Yeah, something about the

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<v Speaker 1>killer's suicide, how it looks different from the murder. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you lost your rookie mind? Oh? The sex of car.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Tig Torres, niece of Bes Torres, and you,

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<v Speaker 1>my young, inexperienced partner, are spilling confidential info about her

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<v Speaker 1>aunt's case to her. What's wrong with this picture, Lee Haine,

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<v Speaker 1>her aunt as for you, Torres, would be in your

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<v Speaker 1>best interest to turn off that recording device and walk

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<v Speaker 1>out that door immediately. The lit killer case is closed,

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<v Speaker 1>has been for a long time. Come on go. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to argue with a police detective asking well, demanding

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<v Speaker 1>you leave a police station. So I did, but Lehane's

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<v Speaker 1>loose lips gave me more than I expected, a little hope. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>I needed hard facts. Next up was the place where

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<v Speaker 1>my aunt Beth broke the lit killer story and where

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<v Speaker 1>it bro her. I ran into Win on my way

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<v Speaker 1>to the Hollow Falls Ledger, my aunt's old workplace. Once

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<v Speaker 1>a thriving daily paper, the Ledger was now a fading relic.

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<v Speaker 1>Hallow Falls Ledger. This is hang on a sec. Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I help you too? Hi? We're Tig and Win

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<v Speaker 1>and we're high school students working on a report about

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<v Speaker 1>the lip killer. Is there anyone here who could help

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<v Speaker 1>us with our research? It's really important we get a

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<v Speaker 1>good grade. On this. We're always chasing them. Maze. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we can help you. Is Sam Steiner here?

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<v Speaker 1>He used to work with Beth Torres back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam doesn't work here anymore, young lady, So I'm sorry. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a number where I could reach him?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's been gone for years since, well since the

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<v Speaker 1>truth about his partner came out and hit him hard.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean the lie hit him hard because it was all, Oh, ma'am,

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any way that you can help us find Sam? Look,

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<v Speaker 1>people come and go, especially in this business. It feels

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<v Speaker 1>like we've got a new wave of layoffs every week.

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<v Speaker 1>But Sam was out of here years ago, and last

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<v Speaker 1>I already harmited himself away in the woods. You need

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<v Speaker 1>more than that. They'll take a high see if you

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<v Speaker 1>can find him. My aunt Beth always said that a

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<v Speaker 1>big part of reporting was showing up and asking questions.

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<v Speaker 1>This time we barely got to ask any questions. But

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<v Speaker 1>just when I thought all of Hollow Falls was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a massive black hole of info, I found

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<v Speaker 1>something in the place I should have checked first. Maya

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<v Speaker 1>Buda's houses on the edge of town. She's lucky. People

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<v Speaker 1>tend to leave her alone. Well, mostly there are the

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<v Speaker 1>occasional burnouts looking to egg the dump where Beth lip

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<v Speaker 1>Killer Torres grew up, and knowing how desperate the cops

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<v Speaker 1>were to close the lip killer case back then, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew they couldn't have gotten all of Aunt Beth's notes.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like I had a good chance of finding

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<v Speaker 1>something police were too basic to see. And where better

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<v Speaker 1>to kick off my search for evidence than in Aboila's

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<v Speaker 1>giant rickety house. When stopped by and offered to help,

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<v Speaker 1>so I roped her into searching a What is attic

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<v Speaker 1>with me? She's taking a nap right now, Hence the

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<v Speaker 1>whispering where this police has death trap written all over it.

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<v Speaker 1>If I see a spider, I'm out. No promises. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the dust will keep them out. I came out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sure this police is haunted? That was the

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<v Speaker 1>sound of me stepping on a loose floorboard. I have

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<v Speaker 1>the bruises to prove it. But what was underneath was

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<v Speaker 1>a gold mine. What is that? It was a fortune Teller,

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<v Speaker 1>an oregonmy paper game with folded parts that were labeled

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<v Speaker 1>with colors and letters. I tried a few combinations like

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<v Speaker 1>blue and z. But it left me flat. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was nothing. Maybe I was looking for meaning in a

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<v Speaker 1>child's toy. I was still ending in that broken down attict,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out what a piece of paper meant.

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<v Speaker 1>When I saw it a bookshelf across the room, my

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<v Speaker 1>eyes stopped on one book in particular, The Scarlet Letter

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<v Speaker 1>by Nathaniel Hawthorne, the story of a colonial woman forced

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<v Speaker 1>to wear a red a on her clothing because the

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<v Speaker 1>whole town decided to slut shame her. The story of

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<v Speaker 1>a woman who had become a pariah. Scarlet. That's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be it. It's one of the books on the

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<v Speaker 1>shelf here. So what though, I mean, everybody has a

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<v Speaker 1>copy of that book. That's the point. When these are

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<v Speaker 1>literary classics. It ties into the case directly. Check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>When I flipped from red to A there's a number

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<v Speaker 1>under that flap, three digits, like a page number in

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<v Speaker 1>a book. Please be a page number in the book.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh are you kidding me? Maybe it underestimated you girl. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Here in the margins of the page, it says Duvall Street.

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<v Speaker 1>And look at the symbol on the facing page. I

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen that? No, that just looks like a bird

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<v Speaker 1>in a circle. But that address is near Hemlock Row.

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<v Speaker 1>My parents always said to avoid that strip. I can't wait. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm walking through town with Max and we're almost at

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<v Speaker 1>two Ball Street when said she needed a massive detox

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<v Speaker 1>after snorting up so much dust in my boils attic.

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<v Speaker 1>Max knows the drain better than I do, so he's

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<v Speaker 1>taking point. I haven't been all the way down here,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think we're close. This is kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>treasure hunting, right, I mean in this area, it's more

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<v Speaker 1>like dumpster diving. But still, Oh, there it is Ball Street. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually kind of cool. Styles always where you least expected.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a diner dressed up like a Johnny rockets

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<v Speaker 1>on crap Ray Bradberry with a dash of Stephen King.

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<v Speaker 1>But why did my aunt's clue sent me here? Hey, kiddos,

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<v Speaker 1>are you staring at You're smoking them molly pills? I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I was. This is jaded waiter Phil. We found

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<v Speaker 1>him smoking outside the Star Diner. I kind of love him. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we were just admiring the design of this place. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this a bank scene? Who the heck is Spanksy? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand half of what you can't say today. This

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<v Speaker 1>place used to be nice, but now it's all ganda happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that damn sign give me a freaking headache.

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<v Speaker 1>With every flicker, the A and Star diner was suffering

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<v Speaker 1>from a faulty bulb. The sign was also read a

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<v Speaker 1>red scarlet letter a bingo. After a few fruitless circles

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<v Speaker 1>around the sign, we almost gave up. But remember that

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<v Speaker 1>symbol we noticed in the book. It was crudely scratched

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<v Speaker 1>into the sign posts electrical panel. We pried it open

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<v Speaker 1>and found a small box with a tiny black cassette

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<v Speaker 1>tape inside. Aunt Beth must have used these for recording

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<v Speaker 1>her thoughts, her genius and Beth thoughts. Thankfully, even Hollow

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<v Speaker 1>Falls was within Amazon Primes rate, so I could find

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<v Speaker 1>a recorder to play it. But that wasn't all. In

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<v Speaker 1>the box with the mini cassette was a slip of paper.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, damn, your aunt is literally passing us

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<v Speaker 1>notes from beyond the grave. Is it better for a

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<v Speaker 1>man to have chosen evil than to have good imposed

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<v Speaker 1>upon him? That sounds familiar. Let me look it up

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<v Speaker 1>on my phone. I was right. It's from a clockwork

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<v Speaker 1>orange whoa, We're totally on a treasure hunting dumpster diving adventure. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what did I tell you? Our next move was to

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<v Speaker 1>try and get our hands on a copy of Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Burgess's book. With that in mind, I headed to one

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<v Speaker 1>of the few useful places left in town, the Hollow

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<v Speaker 1>Falls Library. Man, I love the library. I'd forgotten how

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<v Speaker 1>many fond memories I had of the Hollow Falls branch.

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<v Speaker 1>Fond memories and Hollow Falls are two phrases you don't

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<v Speaker 1>hear together much. It just got so much personality, from

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<v Speaker 1>the old school clock tower to the retro filing system.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't find any copies of clockwork orange, but I

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<v Speaker 1>did dig up an article about an internship program teaming

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<v Speaker 1>up the talent and the Hollow Falls Ledger. No such

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<v Speaker 1>program exists now, though not to self asked Mr Levinson

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<v Speaker 1>about why it was discontinued. Hey cordin yourself again? What no?

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<v Speaker 1>And just never mind? Yes, I am so. I got

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<v Speaker 1>bored and googled you last night. Weird. It seems you're

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<v Speaker 1>not a newvie when it comes to the world of

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<v Speaker 1>true crime. Take twar us or should I call you?

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Salamander? Nine seven impressive? This is Ali again from

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<v Speaker 1>the newspaper, and apparently he frequents the same true crime

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<v Speaker 1>message boards. I do the screen name he mentioned. My

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<v Speaker 1>screen name is a jokey reference to The Girl with

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<v Speaker 1>the Dragon Tattoo books by Steve Larson. Hey, look, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry we gave you a hard time when you came

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<v Speaker 1>by the talent. I know when and Max have been

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<v Speaker 1>partnering up with you. But if you want more help

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<v Speaker 1>with your serial killer research, my services are available to

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<v Speaker 1>and what services are the What is is this it?

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<v Speaker 1>Roof water? Oh god, it looks like get it over.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember our pal Tony del Canto, Well, that was his

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<v Speaker 1>body that crashed down in front of us. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen anything like that. I never want to again. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen crime scene photos, read some messed up books,

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<v Speaker 1>but seeing something so gruesome in person, I'll never forget it.

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<v Speaker 1>The word on the street is suicide. But based on

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<v Speaker 1>what we've learned so far about this town, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think? We want everyone to remain calm and the

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<v Speaker 1>investigation proceeds. Defective cover me have everything under control. That

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<v Speaker 1>was Principal Ronald Block's attempt at calming the student body

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<v Speaker 1>in the wake of Tony's death. While anyone could have

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<v Speaker 1>their reasons for jumping from a clock tower, from what

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<v Speaker 1>we know of Tony so far, does he seem like

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<v Speaker 1>the type. Turns out, Tony's background was more complicated than most.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony's dad, Big Tone, was a major businessman in Hollow Falls.

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<v Speaker 1>He was, also, along with five others, a victim of

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<v Speaker 1>the lit killer, which explains why Tony was such a jerk.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, he thought my aunt murdered his dad, But

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<v Speaker 1>this wasn't someone who had given up on at all.

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<v Speaker 1>No one believes us, but Ali and I know that

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<v Speaker 1>blood dripped before the body fell. And guess what was

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<v Speaker 1>found next to Tony's shattered body? A shell, A broken

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<v Speaker 1>conk shell with a number painted on it. Ten twelve

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone else, random, but to me, my aunt Beth

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<v Speaker 1>died on October twelfth, two thousand and eight. The crime

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<v Speaker 1>scene has been mostly cleared, so we're back in the

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<v Speaker 1>library using the prehistoric microfiche again. Scrolling through early October

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<v Speaker 1>two thou and eight editions of the Hollow Falls Ledger

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<v Speaker 1>to see, wait, this is all wrong. The front page

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<v Speaker 1>of the newspaper is completely blank. What are those numbers?

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<v Speaker 1>The newspaper front page on the day of my aunt

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<v Speaker 1>Beth's murder was not new to me. Someone had tampered

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<v Speaker 1>with the microfish and wiped the story. In its place

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<v Speaker 1>was the number eight to three point nine, followed by

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<v Speaker 1>the letters G O L eight two three. Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>can't be another date. When we had first got into

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<v Speaker 1>the library, we grabbed a copy of Lord of the

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<v Speaker 1>Flies by William Golding because it has a deadly fall,

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<v Speaker 1>R I P. Piggy and a conk shell. But the

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<v Speaker 1>library copy of the book had turned up nothing until now.

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<v Speaker 1>What you think the number could be the book? That's

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<v Speaker 1>the connection, like it's the eighth book in the second

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Dewey decimal number. Look for Lord of the Flies.

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<v Speaker 1>The d D number is A to three and the

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<v Speaker 1>G O L has got to be Golding, not bad Torres.

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<v Speaker 1>How do we know what book it is? What about

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<v Speaker 1>this one free fall by guess who William Golding? Seems appropriate?

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<v Speaker 1>And there's something stuck in between the pages open it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a note card and also a highlighted passage. Are

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<v Speaker 1>is partly communication but only partly The rest is discovery.

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<v Speaker 1>What what does the note say? Hello again hollow falls?

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say It's so good to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Equally delightful to find another young tourists to play with.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knew all it take was one precocious little team

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<v Speaker 1>to get me all riled up again. Quite the plot twist,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you think? Keep reading? This one's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a real page turner. The words even coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>Ali's mouth made my skin grow cold. The lit killer

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<v Speaker 1>is back and they know who I am. How much

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<v Speaker 1>blood is on my hands now for reopening this casket?

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<v Speaker 1>What have I unleashed? Things? Just got real. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to keep pressing and I'll have another chunk of lethal

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<v Speaker 1>It ready to share soon. Stay tuned on the next

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