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Speaker 1: Hey, lethal listeners, tig torres here stay tuned for the

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Speaker 1: next episode of Lethal Lit. But before we dive into

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Speaker 1: today's episode, here's a quick word from our sponsor. You're

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Speaker 1: about to hear a recording of my aunt Beth taped

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Speaker 1: at a murder scene she was covering for the local paper.

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Speaker 1: Two months later, she was dead. It was ruled a suicide.

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Speaker 1: La was a twenty seven year old woman, brown hair,

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Speaker 1: brown eyes, five four approximately thirty five pounds, in visible

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Speaker 1: tattoos or markings. Cause of death unknown. She was found

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Speaker 1: with two small puncture ruins on the right side of

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Speaker 1: her neck, dried blood near the entry points. Before you

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Speaker 1: get too excited and bust out your twilight merch, this

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Speaker 1: isn't a vampire story. After she died, my aunt was

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Speaker 1: accused of being a serial murderer known as the lip Killer.

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Speaker 1: A note found inside the victim's purse, consistent with the

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Speaker 1: previous ones, reads, you're always a careful student. Now you

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Speaker 1: are master the colts from John Seward, a character in

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Speaker 1: Bram Stoker's Dracula. The lip Killer murders gripped the small

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Speaker 1: town of Hollow Falls a decade ago. By the end

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Speaker 1: of the killing spree six people, including my aunt Beth.

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Speaker 1: We're dead. The police discovered a handwritten note next to

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Speaker 1: aunt was no killer. The mission of this podcast is simple,

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Speaker 1: to uncover the truth, to clear my aunt's name, to

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Speaker 1: put the real killer behind bars, or die trying. I'm

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Speaker 1: tig Torres and this is Lethal Lit. Greetings, Lethal Lit listeners,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the first episode of our podcast. Well, if

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Speaker 1: to this whole podcast thing. My home, my past is

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Speaker 1: a burnt out burg known as Hollow Falls. Back in

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Speaker 1: grizzly murders. My dad knew it was time to bail

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Speaker 1: He wanted a better life for me, one that was

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Speaker 1: more gossip Girl West twin Peaks. So we ditched for

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Speaker 1: new work, I'm here taking the opportunity to make things right.

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Speaker 1: The only way you can truly understand the lit Killer

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Speaker 1: since the iron works closed, the only thing in this

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Speaker 1: I managed to sneak through the first week of the

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Speaker 1: we go on week two. In Pride and Prejudice, the

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Speaker 1: book Guys, Elizabeth Bennett says, there is a stubbornness about

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Speaker 1: me that never can bear to be frightened. My courage

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Speaker 1: I need to find out of my way. Psycho Junior Movement.

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Speaker 1: That's Tony del Canto us D, A approved jock with

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Speaker 1: what's where I'm going? You're the one. No one wants

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Speaker 1: you here? Freak show we all know about you and

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Speaker 1: My debut at the school was a rocky one. Everyone

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to think, Hi, newspaper staff, I'm t

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Speaker 1: we knew who you are. City Mouse. That's Max Winman.

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Speaker 1: He it can be a little extra. Sometimes you'll see

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Speaker 1: what's up. Dorus bored a small film authority, and that's

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Speaker 1: They don't hate me as much as they seem to. Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually looking for info on the serial murders that

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Speaker 1: feminazi slumber parties you plan in your kids. Lost, Tony,

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Speaker 1: you're killing an hostile vibe. That's Ali Price, editor of

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Speaker 1: the Talent. Oh my bad, sorry to interrupt your chat

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Speaker 1: So there's were picks of me actually throwing the ball.

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Speaker 1: I've been spotlighting that boulders it for the last three

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Speaker 1: Yearsues does win with the clap? Is he always such

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Speaker 1: flat line. So why are you here again because you

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Speaker 1: want to talk serial killers? Yeah? Like I said, I'm

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Speaker 1: this crew. Hold on a sect? Is this? This is

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Speaker 1: These Junior Sarah Kaneggs not only had a map of

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Speaker 1: was loaded with color coded pushpins and strings. Each one

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Speaker 1: pointed to a lip killer murder, plus a photo of

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Speaker 1: the talent, ten years since the lid killer murders, the

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Speaker 1: what's this week's topic? The lip Killer's Dracula style fourth murder?

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Speaker 1: Is it all podcasts and no play with you? Pretty

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Speaker 1: even like legal Relax Innocence project. I just had it

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Speaker 1: can you state your name for the tape? Please, Abuela

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Speaker 1: no Ahuilla, your real name, Oh, Sophia Urabella. Thanks for clarifying.

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Speaker 1: What you think the number could be the book? That's

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Speaker 1: I have to say It's so good to be back.

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