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Speaker 1: Who loves baseball.

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Speaker 2: Today our guest is Mike Soosha, who won a World

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Speaker 2: Series as a player, won a World Series as a manager,

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Speaker 2: and in the last Summer Olympics was the manager of

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Speaker 2: the USA team that won the silver medal. Because we're

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Speaker 2: very much still in the Olympics right now, I can't

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Speaker 1: Of it, right And Mike Sosha also caught Fernando Valenzuela

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Speaker 1: in his prime, which we need to talk about, among

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Speaker 1: many things with Mike Soosha today. Did you see the

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Speaker 1: video I sent to the family text message? I did it?

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Speaker 3: Won?

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Speaker 1: Didn't you explain what it was?

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Speaker 2: So my daughter McKinley will have her first birthday on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: It isn't she.

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Speaker 2: Won their full themed and it's all about the puns here.

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Speaker 2: And she walked for the very first time last week.

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Speaker 1: Right it was she walked yesterday, I was told for

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Speaker 1: that because that's the day that Aaron Judge was intentionally

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Speaker 1: walked three times in the same game. Everything relates to baseball.

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Speaker 1: This morning, Jeff, I'm at your house in Philadelphia. She

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Speaker 2: Yeah, August the tenth is her first birthday and she

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Speaker 2: walked on her due date, original due date, August the fourth.

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Speaker 1: That is so cool. And your birthday is coming up

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Speaker 1: on Friday. You will turn thirty one, the day before

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Speaker 2: I want to thank you, Geez. I want to thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for bringing that up. My birthday doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean anything anymore, and I'm very well aware, and that's

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Speaker 2: okay with me. We have been planning McKinley's birthday party,

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Speaker 2: I'm not kidding, since she was born. And now we're like, well,

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Speaker 2: Hold on, we're gonna order pizza or we're gonna do that,

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Speaker 2: right and listen, let the record show that I am

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Speaker 1: A no hitter was thrown on my.

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Speaker 1: Michael Lorenzen rooting for a no hitter and for your

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Speaker 1: She's she's a baseball wife, right. And I had the

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Speaker 1: You were seven, which was a little It was a

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Speaker 1: You didn't get a birthmark, Jeff until you were four

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Speaker 1: Dad or pop up? What do you got for us? Well,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Witt Junior has basically been the best player in

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's how tremendous he has been. Also, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: I think I think you provided a really good argument.

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Speaker 1: Fame I think so. All right, George Kirby pitches for

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Speaker 1: Oh please no, I will someday, Jeff, but I don't.

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Speaker 1: We got to have a guy named Ketchup, but we

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Speaker 1: And on our flight home, Kelly and I from Florida, Kelly,

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Speaker 1: on the plane coming up with the All Cooking Team.

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Speaker 1: find it. And this is not the All Food Team. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: All Kitchen Team. Fry Bake, you know, Bake McBride, Dusty Big.

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Speaker 2: you pretty much exclusively come up with best of all

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Speaker 1: Kill right, because it's right. I don't have anything else

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Speaker 1: your phone, Jeff, I met Peter, who's my cousin of

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Speaker 2: It's okay. It was a lot different than the day.

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Speaker 2: We have a QR code and if people want to

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Speaker 1: He touched my phone and my and his phone number

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Speaker 1: Baby Mayo. Jeff, we had Scott on What a month

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Speaker 2: He was part of our Murderer's row of guests. Right,

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Speaker 2: Bobe had Scott vaanpel Cower Junior, Johnny back right.

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Speaker 1: Three weeks in a row. We called in the heavy hitters.

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Speaker 1: But that just shows you what people are actually listening to,

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Speaker 1: what they're interested in on Twitter. They're not interested in

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Speaker 1: I say I can't I can't believe I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: When you get into discussion from Ozzie to Oral, the

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Speaker 1: greatest players at each number twenty one is shared by

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Speaker 1: Warren Spawn and Roberto Clementy. Warren Spahn won more games

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Speaker 1: than any left handed pitcher in the history of the sport,

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Speaker 1: and Erto Clemeny, for me, is the greatest throwing outfielder ever,

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Speaker 1: the greatest defensive right fielder ever, and one of the

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Speaker 1: best hitters I've ever seen. So if you want to

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Speaker 1: get into an argument with anyone, you decide who's the

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Speaker 1: greatest number twenty one of all time? Is it bertle

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Speaker 1: Clemeny or is it Warren Spahn. People in Pittsburgh are

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Speaker 1: going crazy right now just saying it's it is at

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Speaker 1: least a debate to quote the Da Vinci Code. As

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Speaker 1: long as they've been in number twenty one, there's been

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Speaker 1: killing in his name. That is a debate that people

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Speaker 1: would die over, because that's a really good one. Right

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty seven, Bob Horner was born. Bob Horner went

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Speaker 1: straight from college to the major leagues, and our friend

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Speaker 1: Val van der Benner, who was Uncle Matt's teammate at

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Speaker 1: Catholic University, was drafted by the Atlanta Braves the same

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Speaker 1: year that Bob Horner was drafted by the Atlanta Brave.

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Speaker 1: So Val told us. Val van der Venner told us

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Speaker 1: that they brought all the draft choices to Atlanta Fulton

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Speaker 1: County Stadium to let them know, this is your final destination.

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Speaker 1: This is where you want to end up play. And Val,

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Speaker 1: who was a great college player and got selected by

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Speaker 1: the Braves in the same draft as Bob Horner, said

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Speaker 1: it was unbelievable. He said, every pitch that Bob Hornerswell

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Speaker 1: got to hit a home run, and the rest of

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Speaker 1: us are looking around like we're college players also, and

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Speaker 1: we're not even close to being the hitter that you are.

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Speaker 1: That's how good Bob Horner was.

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Speaker 2: It's in the Cards, one of my favorite segments, and

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Speaker 2: we have to start off with a card that didn't

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Speaker 2: come from a pack. It's our very first baseball card

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Speaker 2: for is this a great game?

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Speaker 1: Or what? All right? And who is the creative genius

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Speaker 1: behind that?

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Speaker 2: Jeff, Oh, it's only my sister, your daughter, Kelly of

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Speaker 2: Kelly Joyce Designs, who did all of our amazing artwork

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Speaker 2: for this podcast. And while we're going to be handing

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Speaker 2: these out at the Little League World Series and.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be signing them and giving them out

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Speaker 1: to players. Kelly is a brillian artists like mom is

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Speaker 1: a brilliant artist. How bad is dad at art? He's

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Speaker 1: so bad that his parents used to hang his art

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Speaker 1: on the inside of the refrigerator. You know, he laughed

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Speaker 1: so hard. That's his joke. That was his joke uses

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Speaker 1: all the time. I loaned it to you, Jeff Man.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, all right, first one, we've

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Speaker 1: got Bailey Over of the twins, right, Bailey Over is

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Speaker 1: red hot and the Twins are on the move up

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Speaker 1: because of their pitching. Bailey Oberts. So the other day,

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Speaker 1: Jeff he had an eight inning, no run, one hit,

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Speaker 1: ten strikeout game. It's the second time in his Twins

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Speaker 1: career he's pitched at least eight innings, no runs, one

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Speaker 1: or zero hits and at least ten strikeouts. And the

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Speaker 1: only Twins slash Washington Senators pitcher because that's where they

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Speaker 1: came from to have multiple ones of those were Walter Johnson,

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Speaker 1: who had three. Did I ever tell you I went

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Speaker 1: to Walter Johnson High School? Right? They were a rival,

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Speaker 1: not a great football team when I was growing up

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Speaker 1: quin Sortsard High School. What up, go Cougars? Right, go ahead?

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Speaker 1: All right, next up? Sorry, I didn't mean to bring

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Speaker 1: up such an unpleasant subject. Why did you give me

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Speaker 1: a paper cut? Lemon? Juice? Well closed? David Wells a

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Speaker 1: Boston Red Sox school throwback card.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 1: David Wells is a big, portly chunkies pitcher, and I

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Speaker 1: saw him dunk a basketball once. So please don't tell

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Speaker 1: me that that chunky baseball players cannot be good basketball players,

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Speaker 1: because he was. And of course, David Wells pitched a

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Speaker 1: perfect game once and he jokingly jokingly said, I retired

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Speaker 1: twenty seven straight batters. Then I went out after the

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Speaker 1: game and knocked down twenty seven straight hindekn. So I

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Speaker 1: think you deserve it if you pitch a perfect game.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: My favorite David Wells story is when he actually won

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Speaker 2: an auction a Babe Ruth cap, remember this, and then

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Speaker 2: he wore it, and he wore it in a game

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Speaker 2: he got fined by Major League.

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Speaker 1: He said, I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I'm wearing it right, and then he sold it years

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Speaker 2: later in auction for like five times what he paid for,

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Speaker 2: So the five thousand dollars fine really meant nothing to

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Speaker 2: him at that time. He's a collect So there's David

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Speaker 2: Wells for you. Hunter Green of the Cincinnati Red Right.

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Speaker 1: Hunter Green throws a hundred, Jeff. Remember this guy was

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Speaker 1: drafted seven years ago by the Reds. He was a

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Speaker 1: He was a dual player. He was a hitter and

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Speaker 1: a pitcher, and he had to make up his mind

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Speaker 1: what should I be be a hitter or a pitcher,

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Speaker 1: unlike Chelley o'tani, who's obviously both. Just shows you how

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Speaker 1: hard it is. But he throws a hundred and he's

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Speaker 1: really coming into his own. He's a strikeout machine. Only

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Speaker 1: great things are ahead for Hunter Green, who is the

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Speaker 1: guy who just threw one hundred and four Did you

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Speaker 1: see that? Yeah? Ben Joyce one hundred and four point

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Speaker 1: seven for the Angels, struck out JD Martinez to end

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Speaker 1: the game. Jeff one hundred and four point seven. And

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Speaker 1: he's a rookie, you know. And they say the difference

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Speaker 1: between like ninety six and ninety eight is like a

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Speaker 1: world of difference. A difference between ninety eight and one hundred.

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Speaker 1: What's the difference between one hundred and one hundred and four?

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Speaker 1: It's I've never seen this before, because I believe it's

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Speaker 1: never been tracked at one hundred and four point seven

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Speaker 1: since we've done the stack cast thing for the last

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Speaker 1: twenty or so years. Steve Traxel, Steve Traxel was a

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Speaker 1: good Major League pitcher and a really good guy. But

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Speaker 1: he was also the slowest worker of all time. He

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Speaker 1: would have never made it through the shot clock era

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Speaker 1: that we have in the Big League. Slower than Clay Buckholtz, yes,

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Speaker 1: and was slower than Josh Beckett, which is really saying so.

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Speaker 1: Once Mark Grace screamed screamed at Steve Traxel, throw the

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Speaker 1: damn ball. It's hot out here. And they were teammates.

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Speaker 1: He was yelling that from first base to his own picture.

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Speaker 1: But Steve Traxel was really good. Connor Joe, last, but

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Speaker 1: not all right, special place in my heart. Connor Joe

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Speaker 1: of the Pirates. I love that his last name is Joe.

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Speaker 1: I've done a list, Jeff. A team will do it

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Speaker 1: someday of players whose last name is a first name.

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Speaker 1: And he's a perfect example, Connor Joe. But here's the

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Speaker 1: thing for me, Jeff. The doctor that delivered Uncle Andy,

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Speaker 1: Uncle Mad and your father was named Joe Connor. Doctor Connor.

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Speaker 1: His name was Joe Connor. And there's a guy in

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Speaker 1: the Pirates named Connor Joe. He perfect. I love that,

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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 2: Next up, it's League in Lids. We've taken every single

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball team. We've gotten through more than half

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Speaker 2: of the teams now, so my hat's getting lightd here.

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Speaker 2: So let's see what we've got. We've got the Chicago Whites, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Boy, poor White Sox, one of seven teams now to

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Speaker 1: lose twenty consecutive games, Jeff. Through Sunday, they were sixty

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Speaker 1: games under five hundred. They have a twenty game losing

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Speaker 1: streak as of through Sunday, and a fourteen game losing

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Speaker 1: streak in the same season, and nobody wins from this. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just such a terrible time to be

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Speaker 1: on the White Sox, a White Sox fan, you know,

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Speaker 1: running the White Sox anything, and it's not healthy for

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Speaker 1: the game. There's a team that's that bad. But the

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Speaker 1: America League record is twenty one consecutive losses held by

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Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty eight Orioles. And who covered that team, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: so must have been really tough being the beat guy.

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Speaker 1: It was not easy. And as you remember, Jeff, it

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Speaker 1: was the first twenty one games that the Orioles lost.

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Speaker 1: So they're oh and twenty one where they finally won,

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Speaker 1: by the way in Chicago against the White Sox. That's

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Speaker 1: where they're twenty one game So I've told the story again.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna hear it again. I don't care. So after

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Speaker 1: number seven lost number seventeen in a row, Frank Robinson,

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Speaker 1: the manager of the Orioles, takes the writers out to eat.

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Speaker 1: He's never done that before and never did it after

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Speaker 1: I they just need a little support. So halfway through dinner, Frank,

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Speaker 1: big kidder that he is. I say to Frank, anyone

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Speaker 1: interesting called you during the streak and he goes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the President called me today. So, knowing he's a big kidder,

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Speaker 1: I pushed him three times and he said, damn it,

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Speaker 1: the President of the United States called me today. I said, Frank,

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Speaker 1: what did he say? He said, Frank, I know what

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Speaker 1: you're going through. And Frank Robinson said, mister President, you

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Speaker 1: got no idea what I'm going through? Have that what

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Speaker 1: paidro Griffol, the manager of the White Sox, is going through.

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Speaker 1: You lose twenty games in a row. They haven't won

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Speaker 1: a game in three weeks through Sunday. It's just not

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Speaker 1: a good time for the White Sox or their fans.

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Speaker 1: And let's hope they get through this because this is

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Speaker 1: not healthy for baseball.

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Speaker 2: Our kirkshon quandary this week because we are in the

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Speaker 2: deep of the Olympics still, it has been so much

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Speaker 2: fun to watch. The coverage has been absolutely incredible. We

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Speaker 2: thought we would ask you, and you can chime in

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Speaker 2: Great Game or what dot Com or on our social

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Speaker 2: media we post these all the time.

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Speaker 1: Would you rather win a gold medal in any event

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Speaker 1: you like, any event you would like, winter or summer

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Speaker 1: games for whatever country you like. Right, if you're a

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Speaker 1: United States resident, then boom for the US of A.

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Speaker 2: We've got some listeners in Canada, Australia. You name it,

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Speaker 2: gold medal in your favorite event for your country. Hit

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Speaker 2: a walk off home run in Game seven of the

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Speaker 2: World Series to win, hit the game winning three point

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Speaker 2: shot in games even of the NBA Finals to win,

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Speaker 2: or or And I know.

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Speaker 1: Nothing about this. Do the greatest rock show in history.

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Speaker 1: And Jeff, that's why I wanted you to bring this

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Speaker 1: one up. I know, concerts for a living right in

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Speaker 1: the three concerts in my Whole life, which is terrible,

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Speaker 1: Dan Fogelberg and Yellow Card and Kenny Chesney. That's it.

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Speaker 1: It's sixty seven years old. Three concerts. It's ridiculous. So

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Speaker 1: but let's say, Jeff, you get one concert with one

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand people streaming your name for three hours. So

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Speaker 1: what would you take? Would you take the one night concert,

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Speaker 1: the NBA three pointer to win the championship, a walk

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Speaker 1: off to win the World Series in Game seven, or

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Speaker 1: an Olympic gold medal? Jeff, where you get to stand

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Speaker 1: on that podium representing your country with a gold medal

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Speaker 1: around your neck. I think it's a legitimate question. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you right now. Being a baseball guy, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go with the home run because Bill Mazerowski is the

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Speaker 1: only player ever to hit a walk off homer in

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Speaker 1: Game seven of the World Series, and I believe nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty against the Yankees that is the biggest home run

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Speaker 1: in Major League history, but this would certainly rival it

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Speaker 1: if you hit it. So I mean, that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: cool thing, right.

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Speaker 2: I think, with all due respect, and I love baseball,

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Speaker 2: and this was really hard for me because I was

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Speaker 2: going to pick baseball Game seven. It's only been done

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Speaker 2: once a Game seven, series ending World Series walk off

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Speaker 2: home run, so you would be the second. Right, that's

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Speaker 2: pretty legendary. But I think I would pick the gold medal,

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Speaker 2: and I would do it in the one hundred meters

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Speaker 2: so I would be called the fastest man on Earth,

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Speaker 2: because that's what you get.

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Speaker 1: No, Jeff, Yes, you're right, but it's better than being

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Speaker 1: the fastest man on Earth. What would they call you?

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Speaker 1: You become the world's fastest human? Yeah, Jeff, When you're

647
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Speaker 1: the world's fastest human? Is there a better moniker? Ever

648
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Speaker 1: heavyweight champion of the world, world's fastest human? You know

649
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Speaker 1: what that implies. The only thing that can beat you

650
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Speaker 1: at a race of the world is then anibal. It's

651
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Speaker 1: like a cheetah, is like someone that runs on four legs.

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Speaker 2: Now, I know what we're gonna hear probably is people saying, well,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't mean you broke the Olympic or the world record.

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Speaker 2: But in that moment, in that Olympic Games, I would

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Speaker 2: be the world's fastest Would I would.

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Speaker 1: Be the one hundred meter champion? Mean till I would

657
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Speaker 1: be known if I set the record as the world's

658
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Speaker 1: fastest humor, But I would take the baseball one. Jeff,

659
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Speaker 1: you know a lot about music and I don't know anything.

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Speaker 1: What do you think it is like to stand up

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Speaker 1: there and you got one hundred thousand people swaying back

662
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Speaker 1: and forth screaming your name. Nobody booths at a concert, Jeff. Right,

663
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Speaker 1: if you miss a C note or whatever that is called,

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Speaker 1: you know, you make an era in a baseball game.

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Speaker 1: No matter how good yard, you might get booed. No

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Speaker 1: one ever gets booed at a concert. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: that's incredible and that feeling. As a former performer, I

668
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Speaker 1: once told you that performing on stage in high school

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Speaker 1: was like winning the championship every single night, because no

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Speaker 1: matter what goes on, at the end of the day,

671
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Speaker 1: you take a bow and you get applause. Right, it's

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Speaker 1: the greatest feeling.

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Speaker 2: Ever, however, that people are doing that all the time,

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Speaker 2: with all due respect, maybe not everybody's selling out one

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand seats. I get what you're saying, but people

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Speaker 2: have done it and will continue to do it. I

677
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Speaker 2: don't know how many people are going to be able

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Speaker 2: to be the fastest human on earth or be able

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Speaker 2: to hit a walk off home run in the World Series.

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Speaker 2: And we're omitting one though, are we not even considering

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Speaker 2: the NBA?

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Speaker 1: I all think I love basketball and I should know,

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Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure no one has ever made a

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Speaker 1: shot at the buzzer to turn a loss into a

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Speaker 1: win in Game seven of the NBA Championship. And that's

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Speaker 1: what it is. You're down by two, you make a

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Speaker 1: three pointer at the gun to turn a champion a

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Speaker 1: loss in Game seven into a victory.

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Speaker 2: Is it terrible that I would almost be more encouraged

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Speaker 2: to do it if it was my senior year of

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Speaker 2: college and it was the NCAA twour you.

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Speaker 1: Like, Is that terrible to say?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: I would almost rather win a national champion out there,

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Speaker 1: would say if you did that for Syracuse where you

696
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Speaker 1: went to school, that would be better than doing it

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Speaker 1: for the Boston Celtics because it was your college.

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Speaker 2: Right, I would kind of make that argument that I

699
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Speaker 2: would rather do that. But I'm a college basketball fan

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Speaker 2: over the NBA. All right, So chime in, Kirchin quandary.

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Speaker 2: You can do so on our social media's Now we're

702
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Speaker 2: pairing up with our friends at Stratumatic and they are

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Speaker 2: the market leader in sports simulations. They helped us out

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Speaker 2: last week with the hypothetical trade which would have sent

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Speaker 2: Ted Williams to the Yankees and Joe DiMaggio to the

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Speaker 2: Red Sox. So if you miss that, you can go

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Speaker 2: back an episode and take a listen. And this one

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Speaker 2: is one that you are really excited about because you

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Speaker 2: were very much an active sports writer at this time

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Speaker 2: and still.

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Speaker 1: Am an active sports jet I know, and you weren't

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Speaker 1: really writing about Ted Williams and Joe to Mattie good

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Speaker 1: point jet all right, nineteen ninety four August the twelfth,

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Speaker 1: the baseball season came to a grinding halt because of

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Speaker 1: the strike. It was the worst thing ever. So the

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Speaker 1: ninety four Expos, who had never been to the World Series,

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Speaker 1: let alone won it, were in first place. They had

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Speaker 1: won twenty out of twenty four games heading into strike.

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Speaker 1: And I did a story on this a few years

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Speaker 1: ago for ESPN dot com and Felipe Alou was the

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Speaker 1: manager of that team. Remember Felipe Alou was on the

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Speaker 1: San Francisco Giants team in nineteen sixty two that lost

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Speaker 1: to the Yankees in Game seven and Felipe couldn't get

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Speaker 1: a bunt down in the ninth inning of that game,

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Speaker 1: and he said, it still haunts me to this day

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Speaker 1: that I couldn't get that bunt down and we lost

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Speaker 1: that game. So now Felipe has a chance to win

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Speaker 1: the World Series as the manager of the Expos, and

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Speaker 1: he told me that team was invincible. We were gonna

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Speaker 1: win the World Series. And this is the most important part.

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Speaker 1: He told me, if we had gone to the World

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Speaker 1: Series and kept that team together. I remember they broke

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Speaker 1: up the team after that season because of financial issues

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Speaker 1: within the team. He said, if they kept the team together.

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Speaker 1: Montreal would still have a team. Yep, they would have

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Speaker 1: gotten a new stadium from that and they would still

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Speaker 1: have a team in Montreal. That's how important it was

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Speaker 1: for the Expos to finish that season.

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Speaker 2: So we had Stratamatic run the simulation as if the

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Speaker 2: standings at that time had then converted into the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: how would the nineteen ninety four season ended up. And

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Speaker 2: as you said, Dat, it's a lot more than just

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Speaker 2: who won the World Series. This could have prevented the

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Speaker 2: Washington Nationals from becoming the Nationals when they did from

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Speaker 2: the Expos, and a whole thing.

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Speaker 1: So tell us what they sent us. So there were

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Speaker 1: all sorts of series played, and the Expos won their

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Speaker 1: first round series, but then they lost to the Braves

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Speaker 1: in the League Championship series in seven games. According to Stratumatic,

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Speaker 1: then the Braves play the Dankees in the World Series

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Speaker 1: in ninety four, and the Yankees beat the Braves in

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Speaker 1: five games. I think if you ask anyone on the

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Speaker 1: Expos team, they would have said we were better than

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Speaker 1: the Braves. We were better than anyone. If Felipe Aloud

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Speaker 1: told me this when I wrote the story a few

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Speaker 1: years ago, he said that when he went to pick

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Speaker 1: up his equipment, because there was still some equipment in

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Speaker 1: West Palm Beach, Florida, where the Braves and the Expos

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Speaker 1: trained together. They shared a facility. Felipe ran into Tom Glavin,

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Speaker 1: who pitched on the Braves in nineteen ninety four, and

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Speaker 1: Tom Glavin looked at us, looked at him and said,

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Speaker 1: you guys put fear in us. Wow, that's how good

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Speaker 1: the Expos were in ninety four. We never got a

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Speaker 1: chance to see them complete the season. And even though

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Speaker 1: this is what Stratamatic says, we're all with it. It

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Speaker 1: just shows you how beautiful baseball is. What would have

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Speaker 1: happened if we had completed that season, And if that.

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Speaker 2: Season had been completed, maybe Morgan Walla would have said

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Speaker 2: about the ninety.

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Speaker 1: Four Braves instead of the ninety eight Braves. Right right?

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Speaker 2: You know the song I sent you, Yes, it was

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Speaker 2: and who what's Morgan Walla?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had all the names in it. It was great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was Andrew and Champer right, yeah, oh yeah, we

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Speaker 1: got it. That's hip to the country music scene.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not all right, Well, we're really excited. Mike

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Speaker 2: Soshia is our guest today. As I mentioned at the

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Speaker 2: top of the show, world Series winner as a player

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Speaker 2: and a manager, and managed a silver medal winning team

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Speaker 2: back in the twenty twenty Olympics in Tokyo.

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Speaker 1: He's coming up next. Welcome back to Is This Great

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Speaker 1: Game or What? And our guest this week is Mike Soosha,

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Speaker 1: catcher on the championship Dodger team in eighty one and

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Speaker 1: eighty eight, World Series champion, manager of the Angels in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and two, and of course a silver medalist

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Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty Olympics in Japan in baseball. Mike,

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Speaker 1: this is my son Jeff weren skip back Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love it some Pennsylvania guys. At

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Speaker 3: least you're in Pennsylvania. So Tim and Jeff great to

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Speaker 3: be with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got a Delaware County guy, del Coo in

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Speaker 1: the house for those who know in the local. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everybody knows now as a former catcher. We had Johnny

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Speaker 1: Bench on the.

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Speaker 2: Show two weeks ago and my dad sheepishly asked him, Hey,

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Speaker 2: can you still get down in a squat?

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Speaker 1: And he just responded with why why would I do that?

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Speaker 1: Are you able to do that?

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Speaker 3: You know, I just had two knee replacements in the

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Speaker 3: over the last year, so I'm like a bionic man.

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Speaker 3: So if I had too, I could. But just to

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Speaker 3: quote Johnny Bench, why I'm good. I'm good, No need

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Speaker 3: to check it out. But I think I could have

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Speaker 3: had right, So Mike, what right? That's it? Mike?

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Speaker 1: Six year when when Rick Dempsey was sixty years old

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Speaker 1: he caught that Daniel Cabrera guy in the bullpen once

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Speaker 1: as a sixty year old in Cabreras thrown ninety five

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Speaker 1: miles an hour and Dempsey had no problem catching the ball.

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Speaker 1: I assume before your knees went and you were sixty

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Speaker 1: years old, you could have done the same thing. Don't

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Speaker 1: be humble here. Am I right about that?

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Speaker 3: Well? I did it around age fifty five ten with

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Speaker 3: Garrett Richards, But I'll tell you it was a struggle

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Speaker 3: and I got through it. But actually I only caught

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Speaker 3: about fifteen pitches. But you know, Rick caught for a

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Speaker 3: long time. He was a special catcher, and for him

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Speaker 3: to do it at sixty just says law for his

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Speaker 3: hand eye coordination. After I caught Garrett, I really didn't

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Speaker 3: didn't feel the need to go out there and try

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Speaker 3: to catch anyone else.

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Speaker 1: That was You also caught Fernando Vevenezuela in nineteen eighty one,

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Speaker 1: and with Paul Skins on the scene, now this comment,

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Speaker 1: who has just taken over the game? People ask me

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Speaker 1: all the time, who is the comparable and the best

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Speaker 1: comp for me is Fernando whose first eight games, Mike,

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Speaker 1: you remember he had five shutouts and eight complete games,

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Speaker 1: all of them victories. What was it like catching Fernando

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Speaker 1: during Fernando Mania?

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Speaker 3: Oh, it was something special to him. I think as

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Speaker 3: you get some years underneath you start to appreciate it more.

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Speaker 3: You know, Paul and Fernando totally different type pitchers. Is

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Speaker 3: how they get things done. Fernando had a five pitch

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Speaker 3: mix that he could throw at any time and impeccable command.

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Speaker 3: Didn't throw as hard as Paul, but for him coming

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Speaker 3: into Los Angeles with the huge Latino baseball population here

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Speaker 3: and just setting the world on fire with great talent.

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Speaker 3: And part of Fernando's talent was his makeup. You could

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Speaker 3: see the physical talent and his pitches, his command, how

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Speaker 3: he can make the ball move. But he had ice

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Speaker 3: water in his veins. He just made pitch after pitch

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Speaker 3: and had a lot of confidence and was a big

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Speaker 3: reason why we were able to win the World Series

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Speaker 3: in eighty.

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Speaker 1: One, and Mike in eighty eight, you won the World

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Speaker 1: Series again. Of course, Oral Hersheiser completely dominated the post season.

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Speaker 1: What was it like catching him, especially in October of

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Speaker 1: eighty eight.

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Speaker 3: I have never seen a guy with so much confidence

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Speaker 3: and the ability to adjust the situations and just repeat

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Speaker 3: pitches as Oral did in eighty eight. And for him to,

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Speaker 3: you know, for him to do though what he did

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Speaker 3: the whole season and really put a lot of strain

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Speaker 3: on his shoulder and eventually he needed surgery. But he

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Speaker 3: took the ball and he pitched deep into every game.

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Speaker 3: And what he did against the Mets coming out of

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Speaker 3: the bullpen after pitching the day before and getting the

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Speaker 3: last down about Kevin Mcgrenold's is something I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you're gonna if you're going to see it in

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Speaker 3: a long time orl was. It was just just a

860
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 3: magical season from a guy who really I think should

861
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 3: be in the Hall of Fame. He had a magical career.

862
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: And then you fast forward from eighty eight fourteen years later,

863
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: now you're a manager and you only you started as

864
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: a manager in two thousand, in your third season, to

865
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: take a team and win the World Series? Is that

866
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: like the difference between being a player and being a manager.

867
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: Winning a World Series.

868
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 3: You know, it's much better as a player, and I

869
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 3: really feel in talking to the guys that have won

870
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: it as a player and a manager. You know, when

871
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: you're a little kid and you're thinking about your baseball career,

872
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: you're the guy that's up at the plate with the

873
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: three two count bases loading the bottom of the ninth

874
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: and you're down by three runs and you hit the

875
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: Grand Slam. You're not managing the team. So as far

876
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 3: as what felt better, there's no doubt. Nineteen eighty eight.

877
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: N eighty one was nice, but eighty eight was the

878
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 3: best baseball year of my career, had the most fun.

879
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 3: It was unbelievable, and for us all to chip in

880
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: and get a World Championship is something we still you know,

881
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: it keeps. It's still a bond today and it's nice

882
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: when you do it as a manager, no doubt, or

883
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: a coach. I felt great for the players, but this

884
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: game is about playing it.

885
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: Like I was always struck by your spring training assignments

886
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: that you used to give out to your players. It

887
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: was a team building thing and I loved it. Chris

888
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: boot Check, I remember, was a golfer and you sent

889
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: him home and said come back tomorrow and in front

890
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: of the team, I want you to show us how

891
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: to build a golf club. Okay, tell us, tell us

892
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: what you had, Jared Washburn do. It's my favorite story.

893
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: And if you don't tell it, I will.

894
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: I'll tell you. Know, Tim my guy, a lot of

895
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: this from when you play for a guy like Tom

896
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 3: of the story you play, you know, he set such

897
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: an incredible environment of confidence and success, and he wanted

898
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 3: everybody to understand where people came from. Whether you were

899
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 3: from the four corners of the other world, you're in

900
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 3: there and you're a Dodger. So we wanted to recreate

901
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 3: that with the Angels. A part of it was in

902
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 3: spring training having guys like you, say, Chris Botcheck, who

903
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 3: was a golfer, to say, okay, you're a golfer, show

904
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: me how you need to make a golf club. And

905
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 3: he went out the next day he put it together,

906
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: and those guys went out and hit some balls with

907
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 3: it and said it was a nice club. But my

908
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 3: absolute favorite is the one you're talking about with Jared Washburn,

909
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: and said, Jared Washburn a couple of guys out to

910
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: the Ostrich Ostrich Festival and out in Arizona, and so

911
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 3: I expected him just to take some pictures, take some interviews,

912
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: had a little camera with him. So wash comes in

913
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 3: the next day and I said, you're ready to give

914
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 3: me a report, and he said, yeah, I'm ready, and

915
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 3: he said, well, we really do a lot of things,

916
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: but I think instead of giving you a picture, we

917
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 3: wanted to show you something else. And incomes this Ostrich.

918
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: I mean he was every bit of ten feet I

919
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 3: mean think as an exageration, this Ostrich. His head would

920
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: have hit a it would have hit a basketball hoop.

921
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: And Ostrich comes in and all the guys are like,

922
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: oh yeah, well Ramon or Tease didn't quite understand, and

923
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 3: you know, they were talking about an Ostrich and he

924
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: didn't know what it was. And he literally jumped on

925
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 3: top of his locker and he's saying in Spanish, get

926
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 3: that big chicken. And it was hilarious. I mean, we

927
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: laughed about that. We still laugh about it today. But

928
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 3: we had the trainer came in, told us about an Ostrich,

929
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: and we tried to get Ramon to go over and

930
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 3: just pet it, and he had nothing to do with it.

931
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 3: He was not going to go near that bird.

932
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: You've had the opportunity to manage some incredible players, including

933
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: the players you managed during the twenty twenty Tokyo Olympics,

934
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: and I want to get there in just a moment

935
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: because we are in the middle of the Olympics and

936
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: it's a really exciting time to watch.

937
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: But I want to ask just quickly about Shohei Otani

938
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: and the wonder that he is. I mean, it's truly

939
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 2: unbelievable how great this guy is as a manager for you,

940
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 2: is there something you recognized in him that maybe average

941
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: Joe and Jane watching the game or all the things

942
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 2: we've learned about him that we already know, is there

943
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: something you recognized or saw that he does it's incredible.

944
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it takes a lot of baseball

945
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: documen to look at shoe Otani when we were trying

946
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 3: to recruit him and say that this is a special player.

947
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 3: But as you sign, as he signed and he comes

948
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 3: into spring training, you learned things like how fast he is.

949
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: You know you can do it on tape and get numbers.

950
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: This guy runs like a gazelle. You look at how

951
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 3: hard he works, you look at how meticulous he is

952
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 3: in his preparation, how he studies the game both at

953
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 3: that time from a pitching standpoint and a hitting standpoint,

954
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 3: and you just can't be in awe of everything he's about.

955
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 3: His physical and just his makeup is off the chart.

956
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: Right, And Mike, how impressive was it that he wasn't

957
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: able to pitch this year was a full time DH,

958
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: it means a different job, and he has still torn

959
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: it out.

960
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: Well. I think what's impressive about you know about show

961
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 3: Hey is the fact that his stament is incredible. And

962
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 3: when he started to pitch and hit in the same

963
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 3: games as a pitcher, you know, hitting in the order,

964
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 3: you just saw his opportunity increase. You saw that, you know,

965
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 3: the opportunity to turn the you know, the plate appearances increasing.

966
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: You saw the production you can put up. So the

967
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 3: fact that he's not pitching, I don't think it phases

968
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: him much. I think when he goes back to pitching,

969
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 3: he's going to be as dynamic as he is right

970
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 3: now when he's just hitting.

971
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: Right, And Mike, you also had, of course, Mike Trout

972
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: in his very best years. What was it like managing

973
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: that guy during his absolute peak as a baseball player.

974
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: Well, no doubt, I think that same way we show. Hey,

975
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 3: when you see Mike you saw you know he signed

976
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: his seventeen year old. You see, he's an eighteen year

977
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: old when he comes in the spring training, comes up

978
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 3: to the big leagues at nineteen, is probably one of

979
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 3: the three fastest guys in baseball that has, you know,

980
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 3: top three in power, top three and hitting ability, you know,

981
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: and the same work ethic. And he had a magical run.

982
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 3: And Mike Trout will get back. I think he's going

983
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 3: to have to change on his workload and maybe moved

984
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: to left field as opposed to center, maybe DH a

985
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: little bit more. But you're gonna see Mike come back

986
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: with a vengeance, have terrific baseball because he's he works

987
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 3: hard at it and he'll be uh, he'll be that

988
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: force again, Mike.

989
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: Last week, we had Eddie Alvarez on our show to

990
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: talk about not only winning an Olympic silver with you,

991
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: but also winning an Olympic pedal as a speed skater,

992
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: which just is unbelievable.

993
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: Was that brought up in the clubhouse, because you're one

994
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: of those managers that loves to kind of thread the

995
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: stories and get the players to know their teammates.

996
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: Did that come up? Was he kind of a pseudo

997
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: leader because he had been to the Olympics.

998
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 3: Before, Eddie? Eddie's a tremendous person, plays hard, understands the game,

999
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 3: and yes, his leadership is there, and yes it did

1000
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 3: come up. It was funny where we're sitting there talking.

1001
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: In one of our first meetings, I called her, I said, Eddie,

1002
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 3: how did this happen? Anyone into his explanation. This kid's

1003
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 3: from Miami, where I don't even know if I think

1004
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 3: the ice skating rink is only open from one to

1005
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: two in the morning for an hour because the ice

1006
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: melts after that. He's in Miami and all of a sudden,

1007
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 3: you know, he moved around because he wanted to pursue

1008
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 3: speed skating and uh, and you know, I want a

1009
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: silver medal in speak skating, which is an incredible feat. Uh.

1010
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 3: And then he comes back and you know, and does

1011
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 3: it and wins a silver medal in baseball with us,

1012
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: and what a great thrill.

1013
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 1: Uh.

1014
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 3: It's you know, you talk about improbable stories, that's one

1015
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if I don't know if you could

1016
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: ever say that a kid from you know, Miami went

1017
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 3: to speed skating medal in the Olympics, and that that

1018
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 3: in itself is enough, let alone a you know, a

1019
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: silver medal in baseball.

1020
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: All right, Mike, can you skate? Can you ice? Skate?

1021
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 3: I skated as a kid. I did, now, you know, Tim,

1022
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: I think that's one of the things that you know

1023
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 3: that time has passed. I don't think you're gonna see

1024
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: yeating all the time. And and would play whenever we

1025
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 3: get ring time, played pickup games, and it was a

1026
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 3: right a passage. You know. We grew up in the

1027
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: Philadelphia Flyer era of the you know late you know late,

1028
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: you know they they came in existence at sixty seven,

1029
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 3: but the Broad Street Bullies in the early seventies. So

1030
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: we were drawn to that.

1031
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 1: So you were Dave Schultz or Bernie Barant or somebody

1032
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: like that.

1033
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 3: I was like Moose DuPont. I think I was just

1034
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 3: a big, heavy skater that couldn't really didn't have any

1035
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 3: skills but use the boards to start off them. But

1036
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 3: you know, tried really.

1037
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 1: Hard, Mike, for you. We we talked to Eddie as well.

1038
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: About another teammate on that team that you manage is

1039
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: Todd Frazier And he actually shared with us a video

1040
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: of Todd singing Aladdin Arabian Knights, and he's quite a

1041
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: character and a friend of the show. How was it

1042
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: managing him?

1043
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: Because he is just a great player, a great teammate,

1044
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 2: but also an hilarious guy.

1045
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: Todd's Todd's the best and he was perfect for our

1046
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 3: you know, for our team because he had to he

1047
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 3: had the makeup he needed as a veteran to come

1048
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 3: in but understood everything that uh, you know, everything he

1049
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 3: needed to to do to help us get to our goal.

1050
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 3: And I have to admit I haven't heard I haven't

1051
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: heard him sing. The guys were talking about a little bit.

1052
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 3: But what a breath of fresh air he was here.

1053
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 3: He was he was one of the oldest guys on

1054
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 3: the team, but he played like a twenty year old

1055
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 3: and uh had had just a great experience with us,

1056
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 3: and he's he's just a terrific guy. And he probably

1057
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: sings his own praises a little bit more as far

1058
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 3: as not not as baseball not as baseball talent, but

1059
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 3: the other talent he has, like singing. I can just

1060
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 3: hear him saying, yeah.

1061
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, Mike, can you sing at all?

1062
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. M When we would sit out there and

1063
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 3: they played the national anthem, I just moved my lips

1064
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 3: to the words because what the guys around me here

1065
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: and how bad I'm.

1066
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: All right? Seriously, Mike, what was it like standing on

1067
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: that podium with a metal around your neck representing your country?

1068
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: Tell us what that was like?

1069
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 3: It was? It was It's a feeling you can't describe, because,

1070
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 3: you know, we play this game because we love it,

1071
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 3: and to get a chance to put the jersey the

1072
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 3: country you live in and you love is is really special.

1073
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 3: And you know, I think that's just you know, that's

1074
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: just part of uh uh you know, that's just part

1075
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 3: of what uh it, you know, part of what the

1076
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: lure was. So to win a silver medal and know

1077
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 3: how hard everybody worked, uh to get to that uh

1078
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 3: you know, get to that spot was so so rewarding.

1079
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 3: And I couldn't feel, you know, any any happier for

1080
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: the players who played really good baseball and tough teams,

1081
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 3: you know, Japanese team, we had them. You know, we

1082
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 3: played a tough two games, and I just couldn't quite

1083
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 3: get the gold medal, but we played tough teams Dominican,

1084
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 3: you know, Korea. These teams are really good. Our guys

1085
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: won the silver medal, and for us to all contribute

1086
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 3: into it, into it and eventually get medals, it's just

1087
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 3: it's just a feeling you can't describe.

1088
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1089
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna have Todd Fraser on the podcast in two

1090
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: weeks live in the Little League World series, so I'll

1091
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 2: make sure Mike to send you that episode because I

1092
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 2: have a very good feeling we're gonna get him to sing,

1093
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 2: so you'll be able to hear that. And speaking of guests, right,

1094
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: we talked about Eddie Alvaretz Todd Fraser in two weeks.

1095
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: We also had Hank k Azaria on and you two

1096
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 2: have a little something in common because you voiced a

1097
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: character on The Simpsons.

1098
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 3: Oh I voiced my own character.

1099
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: Oh cool? How cool was that experience? Though? To be

1100
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: on one of the greatest television shows of all.

1101
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 3: Time absolutely is the best. And we got an opportunity, uh,

1102
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 3: you know, to do it in the early nineties, nineteen

1103
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 3: ninety with really what was the All Star team, and

1104
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 3: I really didn't want to do it. You know, I'm like, oh, now,

1105
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 3: during the season my wife, my wife made me do it.

1106
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: She said, you're gonna love this. This show is so funny,

1107
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 3: and I know you've seen it. So I went, all right.

1108
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how much fun it was. And

1109
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 3: I can't tell you the newfound respect I had for

1110
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 3: all these these actors that are that are changed. There's

1111
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 3: only like three guys that do all the voices, and

1112
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 3: they were changing their voices in a moment's notice, and

1113
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 3: and you're just sitting there going, wow, this is you know,

1114
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: these these guys are really talented. So that was a

1115
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: great thrill for me, and that I got a chance

1116
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 3: to do another one later called it I think money

1117
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 3: Bart and that that was it was. It was a blast.

1118
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: Do you remember your lines? Your biggest line.

1119
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 4: From those, well, one of them was I was, you know,

1120
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 4: I was working in the nuclear plant and they were

1121
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 4: they were saying, I was taking the uh you know,

1122
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 4: radioactive uranium and a wheel barrow.

1123
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 3: And taking it down on it and it spills, and

1124
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 3: so the guy was walking with me goes, I I'm

1125
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 3: going down to pick up He goes, no, I might

1126
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 3: just leave it there. It's no big deal. I go,

1127
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 3: oh sweet, like I don't know anything, up, I keeps

1128
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 3: calling and that was it. There wasn't a lot of lines,

1129
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 3: but it was just the whole feeling of the you know,

1130
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 3: the whole feeling of the of just being part of it.

1131
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 3: The way it turned out, it was sensational.

1132
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: Do you you still get royalties from the show?

1133
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: I do? I get, Like, my last check was seventy

1134
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 3: nine cents. It's funny, don't laugh, this is real funny. Yeah,

1135
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 3: So I cash him anyway because I feel I am obligation.

1136
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 3: I don't want their accounting and the book keeping against UP.

1137
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 3: So I cash him anyway, seventy nine cents and it's

1138
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 3: money well spent.

1139
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: That that is so great.

1140
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: I am so glad that you had a chance to

1141
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: join us. Now, no Olympic baseball this year in the summer.

1142
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: But is there a sport that you've enjoyed watching this

1143
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: Paris Olympics that has been fun for you as an

1144
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: as an athlete and a competitor.

1145
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 3: Uh, well, no doubt. I mean, you know, I think

1146
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 3: in my heart of hearts, I always wanted to run fast.

1147
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 3: So track and field is incredible as it you know,

1148
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 3: as it, yes, as it you know, as I've drawn

1149
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 3: to how talented these guys are. But my daughter played

1150
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 3: volleyball in college, and so I've drawn to both both

1151
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 3: sand and you know, an indoor volleyball. I think it's

1152
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 3: a It's an incredible sport. And same with swimming. You know,

1153
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 3: I really didn't start swimming till I was like eight

1154
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 3: years old. I was a late bloomer. But to watch

1155
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 3: these these guys look like and girls look like fish

1156
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 3: in the water is just incredible.

1157
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: Well, I would ask him our Kirkchin quandary for this week,

1158
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: but he's already done one of them. We asked our

1159
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: listeners for this week's episode, would you rather win a

1160
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 2: medal in the Olympics, in whatever sport you would like,

1161
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 2: whatever event you would like, Game seven, walk off home

1162
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 2: run to win the World Series, Game seven NBA Finals,

1163
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: winning three pointer to win it all, or sell out

1164
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand seat rock concert and you're the headliner. Wow,

1165
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: but you've already won a medal, So it's you know,

1166
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: and you said it was the greatest feeling, something undescribable, But.

1167
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 3: It was I never you know, I didn't never hit

1168
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 3: a walk off home run like that or anything, but

1169
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 3: you know, in a winter thing. But I've got fortunate

1170
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 3: enough to get three World Series rings, want to medal

1171
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 3: in the Olympics, so we're going to go to the

1172
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 3: other way. And I definitely go on the rock concert

1173
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 3: thing because I am an amateur guitarist who is very

1174
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 3: limited by one thing, and that's ability. But I enjoy it.

1175
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 3: I can't sing a lick, but I love playing along

1176
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 3: the songs. And I think if I could sell out,

1177
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 3: you know, one hundred thousand dollars the coliseum or somewhere

1178
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 3: and a hundred thousand you know people and have the

1179
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 3: Colisseum just rocking, that would be that would be unbelievable.

1180
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: Right pivoting here, Mike speaking to three. You never struck

1181
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: out three times in a game in your career, one

1182
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: hundred and eleven times. This year a player is struck

1183
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: out four times in a game, and you never struck

1184
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: out three times. I know the game was different back then,

1185
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: but how do you explain how often you put the

1186
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: ball in play?

1187
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 3: You know, Tim, I've found out earlier it was really

1188
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 3: my talent and I always could put the ball in play.

1189
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 3: Never really drove the ball as far as lifting or

1190
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 3: hitting over the fence. I think I had twelve home

1191
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 3: runs in my best season. But to put the ball

1192
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 3: in play, to work outs, to draw your walks, that

1193
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 3: was my offense. And I think you just try to

1194
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 3: accentuate that and move forward with it. So I put

1195
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 3: the ball in play. That's what I did. Like I said,

1196
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 3: it didn't impact it as hard as some guys, but

1197
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 3: I put the ball in play, and you know, I

1198
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 3: think it. I think it's left our game a little bit,

1199
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 3: especially when you talk about situational hitting and you have

1200
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 3: guys on second base of third base and you have

1201
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 3: to move him or you have to get him in

1202
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 3: the third. You know, it might not be the sexy

1203
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 3: thing to do, but it's it's important in baseball, and

1204
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 3: it's important to get those single runs of times and

1205
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 3: and and scoring withouts, and hopefully it'll it'll re enter our.

1206
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: Game, right Mike, I know we changed the rule at

1207
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: home plate, can't block the plate. I understand. I don't

1208
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: want any catchers to get hurt. I don't want any

1209
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: runners to get hurt. But just tell us about the

1210
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: time that Chili Davis ran into you. Explain that for us, please, Oh,

1211
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: he hit.

1212
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 3: Me like a back truck. Well, Chili. Chili was like

1213
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 3: six foot three five, and I got hit a lot

1214
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 3: of the plate. You know, Jack Clark knocked me out

1215
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 3: and what Ricky Henderson knocked me out in Triple A

1216
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 3: and Utah when I was playing at Albuquerque. You know,

1217
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 3: I just so I not knocked out. I saw stars.

1218
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 3: But with Chili, Davis ran round to third base and

1219
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 3: you don't even think about the runner. You're focusing on

1220
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 3: the ball. And I can get a bullet one off

1221
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 3: throw that I just barely catch it. Chili's got his

1222
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 3: lean and he hit me like a blindside quarterback in

1223
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 3: blindside and I fell back probably I mean probably five

1224
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 3: or six feet. Hold the glove stays on my ball

1225
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 3: stays on my glove. It's a third out. So I

1226
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 3: think I'm rolling the ball back to the mound. And evidently,

1227
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 3: and I was just saying, okay, don't you worry about

1228
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 3: your mask. I'm thinking, just I know the dugouts over here,

1229
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 3: and I thought i'd rolled back to the mount, but

1230
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 3: I actually rolled it towards the giant dugout and so

1231
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 3: I go, I go kind of wobbling out to the

1232
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 3: to the to the dugout and I sit down and

1233
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 3: you know after about this at times have changed to

1234
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 3: After about a minute, the trainer finally comes over Bill Buhler.

1235
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: He says, all right, I go yeah, I'm all right,

1236
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 3: you go back and you play. But Jillie Davis hit

1237
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 3: me the hardest I've ever been hit in my life,

1238
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 3: no doubt.

1239
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: And you were a football player.

1240
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 3: I did. I played football. I loved it, but it's

1241
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 3: it's I didn't run. I didn't run too many guys

1242
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 3: like Chili that was six three, two five, and Rant

1243
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: probably a four. I mean, you know, he was a

1244
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 3: stunt when he was young.

1245
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: Oh, Mike, this was so great.

1246
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 2: And I love the Philadelphia connection, of course, and uh,

1247
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: we record the show in Skip Back, Pennsylvania every Monday

1248
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: because my dad is afraid of technology. So in our

1249
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 2: own little way, we were glad to kind of bring

1250
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: you back home to Pennsylvania for a little bit. And

1251
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: next time I'm in Upper Darby, I'm gonna bring you

1252
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 2: up at some of the cheese steaks spots.

1253
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 3: But I've been to pretty much everyone around. But listen,

1254
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 3: great talking to you guys. Thank you, and uh, Jeff,

1255
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you about your dad. You got a

1256
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 3: long way to go in this business to gain the

1257
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 3: respect that your dad has around major League Baseball, on

1258
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 3: it with UH, with players, media, fans. He's a special guy.

1259
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 3: So you got your work head off for you, Jeff,

1260
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 3: and UH keep going and you guys be well great talking.

1261
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Mike was it was very kind and

1262
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you

1263
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: for having a chuckle with us because that's what we

1264
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: do here.

1265
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 3: Uh, thank you, guys.

1266
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: Mike Sosha an amazing guest for episode twenty of Is

1267
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: this a great game or what? In Chili Davis first

1268
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: reference on the podcast. Right. So, Chili Davis was a

1269
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: really good switch hitter in the major leagues, did some

1270
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: really good things. But I'll remember him for one story.

1271
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: When he was playing right field for the Angels. One day,

1272
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: Von White, the center fielder on his team, was not

1273
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: on the field when the first pitch of the game

1274
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: was thrown to Jim Gantner of the Brewers. He was

1275
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 1: in the clubhouse making a phone call. So they started

1276
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: a major league game with only eight players on the field.

1277
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: So somebody after the game asked Chili Davis, the right fielder,

1278
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: did you notice that the center fielder wasn't on the field,

1279
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: and he goes, well, of course I did. And I

1280
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: yelled at the Empires to tell them, but he said,

1281
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: not only and they blind, but they're deaf, Duke. So

1282
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: Jillie Davis didn't just run Mike's socia down. Chillie Davis

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Speaker 2: We're a father son baseball duo. Just loving doing this

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