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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: Brown's on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. You are your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: We're doing it live there we go here, I am

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Speaker 2: there you are. It's a Friday, five's day weekend. Merely,

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Speaker 2: Bo gibe here. Hi. If you yet, we'll have some

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Speaker 2: stuffan We're have a little fun on the program today.

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Speaker 2: But I did want to ask you this. Yesterday we

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Speaker 2: were walking in and it was very much was last

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Speaker 2: day of school vibes like there were quite literally player

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Speaker 2: cars stacked up, loaded up and ready and southbound and

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Speaker 2: down or east or westbound and down as soon as

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Speaker 2: as soon as they were cleared. If you were an

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Speaker 2: NFL player and young Bronck and doctor Jake and Wayne

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Speaker 2: on this as well, if you were an NFL player

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Speaker 2: without family and you had this and you had a

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Speaker 2: forty day window, as Kevin Stefanski told us yesterday, it's

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Speaker 2: forty days. If you had a forty day window of

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Speaker 2: freedom to go and be and do whatever you wanted,

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Speaker 2: what would you do? It's one oh one. I mean

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Speaker 2: I just go straight gas right out of the gates.

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Speaker 2: It's a Friday, I mean it's Friday number one, since

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Speaker 2: practice ended yesterday at noon. Yeah, I'm probably still not sober.

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely rolling right through that. We're heaving it. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna do it. You're gonna just hit it here right away.

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Speaker 2: You're not getting out of town.

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Speaker 3: Nope, No, be patient, be patient.

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Speaker 2: Like you enjoyed.

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Speaker 3: By the way, the best weather in this city is

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Speaker 3: right now. Yeah, I know, minus the fact that it's

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Speaker 3: rainy and fifty degree.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's right. Yeah. I don't even want to

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Speaker 2: talk about it just makes me angry that of what

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Speaker 2: we got. Yeah, what's what's coming?

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Speaker 3: No, I know, I know, But like I'm not in

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Speaker 3: a giant hurry to leave just yet. Yeah, probably hitting

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Speaker 3: the golf course. Probably hitting a very nice golf course

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Speaker 3: if I can.

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Speaker 2: Well you can, you're an NFL player. Probably a member

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Speaker 2: at a very nice golf course.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I I might have myself a little house

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Speaker 3: or a condo up up at the island.

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Speaker 2: Do you love a cottage? You love a little cottage?

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Speaker 2: It lit'tle sneak away yeah, absolutely private, giving as the

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Speaker 2: happiest I ever saw you. Undisclosed location, like had your

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Speaker 2: own little private cottage.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to explain to these guys, like, oh,

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Speaker 3: to Seiciliana because he's like, when did you talk to

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Speaker 3: Isaiah MacGuire. I go fireside chat fireside Excuse me, I said,

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Speaker 3: rookie Mini camp weekend, brought him over to the undisclosed location,

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Speaker 3: flipped on the fireplace on a Saturday and at a

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Speaker 3: fifteen minute bomb with him.

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Speaker 2: You need that's all you need, rockcord with yours by

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Speaker 2: what do you got? What are you doing? You got

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Speaker 2: forty days off. You're an NFL player, that's you're around

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Speaker 2: their age, You're unfettered.

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Speaker 4: I would, personally, I've never been out of the country,

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Speaker 4: so I would go on an extravagant vacation out of

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Speaker 4: the country, especially considering I'd be spending the winter in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I would. I would leave the country.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but you're not spending the way, not necessarily spending

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Speaker 3: the winter. You're out by mid January, hopefully February. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's it's it's cold in November December, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and into January. But you're only playing one or two games,

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Speaker 2: Where's doctor j where's his what's he? What's he doing?

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Speaker 2: You got forty days of freedom, baby, you're unfettered.

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Speaker 5: I gotta I gotta make this very specific. From single,

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Speaker 5: no family, No going on Miami. First out the country

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Speaker 5: where though I probably so I want to do. I

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Speaker 5: would do one of the islands. I think the Keys

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Speaker 5: is what it is, the Keys Islands.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're still in the country with that, as.

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Speaker 5: Far as as far as Florida, Florida Keys, not Miami.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, you do a little, you do a little. You

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Speaker 2: want you're doing Caribbean though, you're doing the Bahamas, You're

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Speaker 2: doing the Caymans, Saint Lucia, Saint Barks. I don't like that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a little cruise, a little cruise, maybe go from

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Speaker 2: one to the next, private boat trip one to the next.

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Speaker 2: How's this island? This is good? I like Jamaica.

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Speaker 5: This took exactly Start in Miami.

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Speaker 2: Then you can go out of Miami for Lauderdale, Tampa.

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Speaker 2: One of those I would do. I would do to Florida, Bahamas.

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Speaker 3: That puts you out on a boat in the middle

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Speaker 3: of the ocean. We had this conversation earlier land.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to be too fine in the ocean.

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Speaker 5: But with that cruise.

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Speaker 2: Have you been on a cruise, ye, Brock, have you

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Speaker 2: been on a cruise?

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Speaker 6: I have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty surreal. Yeah to like I knowed, well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: what I noticed was like we were the very first

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Speaker 2: night I was on the buck Eye cruise. We went,

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Speaker 2: we we left port in Miami, went and had a meal,

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Speaker 2: and then by the time I stumbled back to my abode,

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Speaker 2: I went out on the balcony and there was there

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Speaker 2: was nothing anywhere. And then you go, oh, we're a

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Speaker 2: long way from anywhere. And if this big sucker sinks,

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Speaker 2: good night, nurse, so steak, keep going, baby, keep it going, baby.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, you're a long way out. I would

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Speaker 2: do one of two things. I would either do I

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Speaker 2: think that the key to this is being single, right,

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Speaker 2: so you being single or with you know, a girlfriend

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Speaker 2: or something like that, but without the family, and if

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Speaker 2: you had or before the family occurred, and you have,

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Speaker 2: so you have forty three days. I'm taking twenty to

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Speaker 2: twenty five of those, and I haven't decided which one

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do. I would either do the new Zealand

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Speaker 2: seems so I don't know if I'll ever get there.

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Speaker 2: That air travel is so daunting. I just the idea

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Speaker 2: of I remember we were in Bora Bora in our honeymoon,

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Speaker 2: and we remember the pilots and I don't know if

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Speaker 2: that you're essentially halfway to Sydney. And I remember thinking,

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Speaker 2: on that plane forever. It was like eight hours or something.

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Speaker 2: So that amount of time would allow for me and

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Speaker 2: I think, to fully explore Oceania. And then the other

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Speaker 2: one I thought would be the other thing would be Europe,

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Speaker 2: like you could do all of Europe, because Europe sometimes

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Speaker 2: Do we do just England? Or do you do Italy?

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Speaker 2: do If you had thirty days, you could do it all?

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Speaker 2: You knock the whole thing out, So that those would

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Speaker 2: be the two. Those are the be the two. I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of our guys go to Asia. They're big,

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Speaker 2: they go to and I know Siciliano mentioned that, like

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Speaker 2: there's yeah, you know a lot of folks go to

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Speaker 2: Asia from time to time. That is not appealing to me.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's great, it's just for me. It just

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Speaker 2: it's not on the bucket list.

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Speaker 3: I see. I think I would go. I would be

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Speaker 3: fine going to Europe in those places. But and maybe

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Speaker 3: I go for ten days, twelve days. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 3: want to sit. I want to sit at a pool.

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Speaker 2: You're I want to play golf. You're being You're a man.

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Speaker 2: You're forty Gibbie, I know, not being twenty five year

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Speaker 2: old right by the tail Gibbe.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's I would want to include my friends. Well,

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Speaker 3: my buddy could bring them. Yeah, like let's go on

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Speaker 3: a golf trip. Shenanigans at night, golf during the day,

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Speaker 3: Rinse and repeat. You do that now, I yeah.

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Speaker 2: I know, I don't know. You got to go back

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Speaker 2: to the twenty three year old Gibbe who's running from

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Speaker 2: the cops and bowling green. You got to get in

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Speaker 2: the headspace of that guy.

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Speaker 3: Earlier twenty one, twenty year old is twenty twenty years

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Speaker 3: definitely not of legal drinking age.

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Speaker 2: I think it's you. It's it was one of those

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Speaker 2: And I asked coach this question yesterday when he joined

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Speaker 2: us kindly enough to join us in studio. But like,

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Speaker 2: you've got to take that time to unplug because we

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Speaker 2: live in a world in this Our business is part

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Speaker 2: of it. Their business is absolutely it where And I

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Speaker 2: mentioned this to him, like, I think for a lot

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Speaker 2: of you out there listening, you think, okay, like these

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Speaker 2: guys work their tails off and everybody knows it around

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Speaker 2: the clock from end of July until the season's over.

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Speaker 2: And then I think you feel like it's unplugged, but

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Speaker 2: it really isn't. It's right onto the next it's into

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Speaker 2: free agency, it's into the combine, it's into draft prep,

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Speaker 2: it's Top thirty visits, it's the draft, rookie mini camp,

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Speaker 2: OTA's Mini camp done, and then you've got forty days

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Speaker 2: and you know that's really the thing that is it's

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Speaker 2: such a critical time. And we had Jerome Baker in

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Speaker 2: this week and he mentioned to us about how, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't get to spend Thanksgivings and Christmas. I asked him,

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Speaker 2: I said, what are you gonna do it? He said,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna be with my family because I don't

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Speaker 2: see him the rest of the time. And so an

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Speaker 2: NFL player has a finite amount of time that they're

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Speaker 2: an NFL player, and they have a finite amount of time.

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Speaker 2: We're kind of all of these things cross over, and

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Speaker 2: you you do get that freedom. And it was funny,

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Speaker 2: like you saw Wyatt and and Carly and them packing

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Speaker 2: they're going home to family and where they're you know

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Speaker 2: all of that. That's where they're going. A lot of

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Speaker 2: our guys are on a plane out of here, and

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Speaker 2: so it's a cool thing. It's it's it's probably as

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Speaker 2: close to like last day as school vibes as you're

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Speaker 2: gonna feel, because that's what it felt like yesterday. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm racking my brain because I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you yours. This is yours. This is

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Speaker 2: what you do. You're going to Scotland and Ireland on

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Speaker 2: a golf trip, pub tour, vacation with your buddies. Get

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Speaker 2: me into Ireland, as I said, Scotland, Ireland. So you're playing,

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Speaker 2: you're playing the Roda, the British Open Rota, you're getting

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Speaker 2: the courses in Ireland. You're going to Guinness and you're

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Speaker 2: going to Jamison. You're gonna love, You're gonna go to

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Speaker 2: Red Breast, You're gonna go to all of those places,

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Speaker 2: Bush Mills, you're gonna go to those places. An You're

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Speaker 2: gonna do a little Scotch tasting, hit up that a

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Speaker 2: little bit, play some golf in between. Fine, I think

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Speaker 2: that's yours. That's what I Although you don't get the

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Speaker 2: only you don't get there. You don't get the pool.

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Speaker 2: You like the pool, You're not getting a pool there.

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Speaker 3: But but if I'm already going for ten twelve days, yeah,

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Speaker 3: like again, I don't mind being here and going out

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Speaker 3: at night.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I understand that. But they can't really do

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Speaker 2: that here and be anonymous. Yeah, like again, like from

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Speaker 2: their perspective, they can't be out here now in the.

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Speaker 3: Flats where I'd want to go, Like I get the

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Speaker 3: whole Miami vibe, and now that it was not it

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Speaker 2: was cool watching them do it. Yesterday. It is Father's

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Speaker 2: it looks like the weather's gonna suck tomorrow. It's kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. Okay, that's what I think they're doing

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Speaker 2: I'm like, where are you and he's like, I'm at

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Speaker 3: If i'd like to be a member, then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not good I'm definitely not good enough. And

429
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Speaker 2: he said that he actually it's funny asked that he

430
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Speaker 2: said that I actually talked with two members yesterday who

431
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Speaker 2: they do. But what they like is when they bring

432
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Speaker 2: somebody who hasn't played there to Oakmont and to watch

433
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Speaker 2: them try to. So in other words, they like watching

434
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Speaker 2: people struggle. Is the long and short.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what Xander Schoffley said earlier in than

436
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Speaker 3: the week he goes. We have weeks like this on

437
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Speaker 3: the PGA calendar just so everyone in the world can

438
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Speaker 3: make fun of us.

439
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're human, that's right. And it's also what I

440
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 2: think is cool about the US Open. It's probably my

441
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Speaker 2: third favorite. I probably go British Masters are kind of

442
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Speaker 2: tied than US Open underneath, and then PGA is just

443
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Speaker 2: such a it's just anonymous. There's nothing to it. It

444
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 2: doesn't they don't. They don't have an identity of I

445
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 2: think they're trying to get back and get an identity back,

446
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 2: but right now they don't really have one. But what

447
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: is the identity of this one is it's the one

448
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 2: weekend a year where you see them really struggle and

449
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Speaker 2: that I do enjoy that. Yeah, I do enjoy that,

450
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Speaker 2: and I do enjoy them playing these traditional courses that

451
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Speaker 2: we see. I think the PGA is the one that

452
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Speaker 2: could really really needs kind of a little bit of

453
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Speaker 2: a shot in the arm, but this one I do

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Speaker 2: like there's a very specific feel to the US Open.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, it'd be great if we can stop putting it

457
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Speaker 3: on Peacock in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Hike.

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Speaker 3: Listen, yesterday was a beautiful day. USA had it all

460
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Speaker 3: day till five o'clock. Yeah, great, and then Peacock carried

461
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Speaker 3: the rest. Okay, fine, by five o'clock. I'm onward with

462
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Speaker 3: my day. But how can I at least just watch it?

463
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Speaker 3: There's two groups I can watch on Usopen dot com.

464
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Speaker 3: Now it just started at one o'clock on NBC. NBC

465
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Speaker 3: has it now?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, look this, I mean, I live in a

467
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Speaker 2: college football world like this. I'm used to this. So

468
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: this is and look, we dealt with this in the NFL.

469
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: You deal with it with the Thanksgiving games, the Chris games.

470
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you're used to this playoff games where sports

471
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: is being leveraged to make you sign up for apps. Yep.

472
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Speaker 2: And I'm just too lazy to cancel him. So, like,

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Speaker 2: I've had Peacock for like four years, and the only

474
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Speaker 2: thing I watch on it is like four Buckeye games.

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Speaker 2: Four Buckeye basketball games, A Buckeye football game and Round

476
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Speaker 2: two of the US Open. See, that's the only time

477
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Speaker 2: I ever look at it.

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Speaker 3: I had it, I canceled it. I haven't gone back.

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Speaker 3: If the Buckeyes are on and we're actually home and

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Speaker 3: not traveling, I'll go to a bar.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's never gonna be it's never gonna be a

482
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Speaker 2: big game because all those are going to be at

483
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Speaker 2: noon on Fox always. I've got some soundbites from my guy,

484
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Speaker 2: Ross b Yorke. He's my guy. I'm a fan of

485
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: that guy. He's saying that he's finally, finally, somebody down

486
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Speaker 2: there is fighting back other than me about what should

487
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Speaker 2: get done on that side of things. Nick Chubb penned

488
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Speaker 2: his thank you to Cleveland on an Instagram post. I

489
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Speaker 2: don't need to read it all it's but it's a

490
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 2: really it's what you think it would be. I mean,

491
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: it's everything you'd want to video. Did you watch the video?

492
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Speaker 2: I did? Yeah, Yeah, it was. It's really cool. I

493
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,959
Speaker 2: think the last line is really important. This isn't goodbye

494
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Speaker 2: to what we built, but it's thank you from the trust,

495
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Speaker 2: the passion, the moments that made me feel like it

496
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Speaker 2: belonged here from day one, Cleveland. You'll always have a

497
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Speaker 2: piece of my heart until we meet again with a

498
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Speaker 2: heart and then the batman emoji or the bat emoji

499
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Speaker 2: for Nick Chubb.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll be back when you we put you up

501
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Speaker 3: into the Ring of Honor and the Browns Legends Club.

502
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Speaker 2: He's yeah. We've talked a lot about it this week

503
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Speaker 2: and I was at a corporate partners event with AB

504
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: and AB talked about a little bit and I asked

505
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Speaker 2: him about it, and he goes, I said, this is

506
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Speaker 2: the business, and before I even got it out, he goes,

507
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Speaker 2: it sucks. It sucks, and He's right, it does. It

508
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Speaker 2: does suck. It sucks that this is the business of

509
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Speaker 2: the NFL. It sucks that Nick had the injuries that

510
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Speaker 2: he that he had. As I said earlier in the

511
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Speaker 2: week when we kind of talked about it, I'm just

512
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Speaker 2: incredibly a pre that we got him for as long

513
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: as we did, and we got him healthy for as

514
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Speaker 2: long as he did, because the injury that he had

515
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: in college could have derailed his entire career from Jump

516
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: Street and it didn't, and instead we got this brilliance.

517
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: We got five brilliant years out of him that no

518
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Speaker 2: one is ever going to forget, and I think he's

519
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 2: I'd really do. I think he's on a very short

520
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Speaker 2: list of most popular Cleveland Browns ever, I really do,

521
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 2: because those guys that played so so long ago. There's

522
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: still a lot of you out there obviously who remember Uh,

523
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: there's still quite a few who remember Cardiac kids. There's

524
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Speaker 2: a lot of you obviously remember Kozar and all of that.

525
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: But as as we get farther and further away from

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Speaker 2: Jim Brown and all of those guys, Nick Chubb is

527
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Speaker 2: going to be one of those memories. Nick Chubb is

528
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 2: going to be the way that that folks our age

529
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Speaker 2: talk about like Eric Metcalf and like what he meant,

530
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 2: or Buyner and Mack or Clay Matthews or any of

531
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Speaker 2: that stuff. Bernie remembering those moments. There will be a

532
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: generation of kids that feel that way about Nick. Yep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, showed up to work every day and just wanted

534
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: to win. That's it. That's all he wanted. He just

535
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: wanted to play football and win. Not difficult, and there

536
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Speaker 3: were times he made it look exceptionally easy. He's great,

537
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Speaker 3: He's one of the best to ever do it in

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Speaker 3: this Browns uniform.

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Speaker 2: For sure. Was were our veterans or our alumni in town.

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00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: We did an alumni barbecue yesterday. Was that man here,

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Speaker 2: Dan Fike? Was he here?

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Speaker 3: I was told, yes, I never saw it.

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Speaker 2: I thought I saw him talking to Botonio.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see him because it was on my list.

545
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Speaker 3: I was like, hey, maybe Dan can come upstairs. We

546
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Speaker 3: can relive Hawaii.

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Speaker 2: So I'm pretty sure it was him. Okay, I'm pretty

548
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Speaker 2: sure there's a picture on our Instagram or one of

549
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Speaker 2: our social team.

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Speaker 3: He was on a list to come, but I never

551
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Speaker 3: saw him.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, like he came up to me. I don't

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Speaker 2: remember if I was wearing a Brown's. We were at

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Speaker 2: a resort in Maui. He lives there, and he came

555
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: up to me. I must have had either me or

556
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Speaker 2: the boys must have add a brown something on. And

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Speaker 2: he came up and we talked for hours. Dan and

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Speaker 2: then his autographed the football card is in the studio

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Speaker 2: right to the over the left shoulder of Gibbe there.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I would. I said, well, when you come

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Speaker 2: to one of these things, come see us. You can't

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Speaker 2: miss us. Come to the second floor, you can't miss us.

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Speaker 2: But I'm pretty sure Danny Fike was here, which was,

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Speaker 2: which would have been cool, would have been very cool

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Speaker 2: to see. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, they all left early, like practice ended and like

567
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Speaker 3: the alums were gone before the show. Yeah, so that's

568
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Speaker 3: I was hoping to get a few of them, but

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Speaker 3: everybody had ducked out.

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Speaker 2: So all right, we have a mail big Friday that

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Speaker 2: round round two thirty. So if you have some questions,

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Speaker 2: and remember you can get those to us on the

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Speaker 2: YouTube chat as well.

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Speaker 3: That's we're going to specialize on the YouTube.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll get your questions in on the YouTube

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Speaker 2: chat and we will answer those coming up at two thirty.

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Speaker 2: Go around the sports world, around the NFL. You have

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Speaker 2: that to look forward to. We're going to go to Oakmont.

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Speaker 2: One of your buddies, one of my buddies, one of

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Speaker 2: the Americans. He's going to be there. Guy Cipriano's going

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Speaker 2: to join us. He is the editor in chief of

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Speaker 2: Golf Course Industry and will ask him some of these

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Speaker 2: questions that we've been asking about what it is like

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Speaker 2: over at Oakmont. So you have all of those things

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Speaker 2: to look forward to, which are very very nice. We

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Speaker 2: will begin it with Kevin Stefanski from the podium from

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Speaker 2: Mandatory Mini Camp that is coming up next. We are

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Speaker 2: Sorry I missed the mail bag yesterday. I worked a

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Speaker 2: fourteen hour night day and crash listening to me and Ceciliano.

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Speaker 2: So you want a mailbag, kids, Bobby's ready, He's ready

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Speaker 2: to go. God fighting it.

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Speaker 3: Any leftovers we're gonna need Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday next

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Speaker 3: week too.

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Speaker 2: And we did confirm them that Dan Fike was here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm a social so we were right on that. Yeah. All right,

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Speaker 8: St guys, work are working very hard. Please with what

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Speaker 8: we got done today. We'll be back inside for more

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Speaker 8: meetings we'll walk through and a bunch of NFL mandatory

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Speaker 8: meetings that we're trying to knock out in this camp,

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Speaker 8: and then back out here tomorrow. But really please with

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Speaker 8: the work that the guys put forth today. With that,

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Speaker 8: I'll take any questions, Kevin.

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Speaker 7: The kind of the modified seven on seven that you

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Speaker 7: got going on there with the offensive line, and what's

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Speaker 7: what's kind of the process that you're trying to what's

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Speaker 7: the accomplimence that you're breaking copy.

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Speaker 8: I think with seven on seven you're always looking for

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Speaker 8: ways to get that as close to a team drill

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Speaker 8: without making an eleven on eleven, which you certainly can do.

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Speaker 8: It's harder to do that in the way the rules

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Speaker 8: are written in the off season program. So when you

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Speaker 8: do do seven on seven, you've seen some teams walk

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Speaker 8: out there with bags or tennis rackets or something. So

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Speaker 8: this is something we're trying to do, is put our

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Speaker 8: offensive line out there, let our other offensive lineman run

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Speaker 8: games and stunts, so they're still working their blitz pick

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Speaker 8: up and the quarterbacks get to feel the pop could

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Speaker 8: get to feel with what that's like.

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Speaker 2: Are you trying to get as many reps to the

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Speaker 2: three new quarterbacks as you can before you get to

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Speaker 2: training camp, excluding flag Up because he has perhaps were

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Speaker 2: really reduced.

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Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, just being trying to be intentional about everything.

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Speaker 8: Tony and certainly Joe had fewer reps today. That's obviously

645
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Speaker 8: on purpose, and just trying to find out get as

646
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Speaker 8: much of an evaluation on the guys as we can.

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Speaker 2: Look like Dylan obviously went first in your first set

648
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Speaker 2: of eleven on eleven's and it looks like, I don't know,

649
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Speaker 2: it looked very efficient, like the licener is starting.

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Speaker 4: To come out for you to do interesting.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm pleased with all the young guys. Mary Kay

652
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Speaker 8: and their development. There's a lot that goes into this,

653
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Speaker 8: and these guys work extremely hard. It's something that I

654
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Speaker 8: would say each position we're asking them to do something

655
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Speaker 8: that is a little bit different than what they did

656
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Speaker 8: in college, and certainly at the quarterback position, there's a

657
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Speaker 8: lot that goes into it. These guys are all well

658
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Speaker 8: coached when we get them, but there's things in the

659
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Speaker 8: NFL game just the rules are different in some areas.

660
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Speaker 8: So I think all these guys are making really good progress. Kevin,

661
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Speaker 8: this is the first time least seeing Deontay Johnson out there.

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Speaker 2: What are your impressions on here?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Deontay, you know, doing a nice job obviously getting

664
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Speaker 8: up to speed with terminology and those type of things.

665
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Speaker 8: And I think we'll just continue to work. But it's

666
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Speaker 8: good to have matter here.

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Speaker 2: In terms of your play action passing into how do

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Speaker 2: you think the two rookies are adapting to it?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say for us, Tony, from a system,

670
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Speaker 8: we want to be able to do to get under

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Speaker 8: center and run play action being the gun and run

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Speaker 8: play action being the pistol. I mean, we don't want

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Speaker 8: to limit ourselves in any way. I think the quarterbacks

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Speaker 8: as a group are all capable of doing all of that.

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Speaker 8: I think that's that's the really fun part with this

676
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Speaker 8: group of quarterbacks. They can kind of do it all.

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Speaker 8: It's it's I think it's an impressive group across the board.

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Speaker 8: But I don't think there's a desire to you have

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Speaker 8: to do this or you have to do that.

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Speaker 2: Abriel do much of it.

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Speaker 8: I don't think anybody's done much of it in the

682
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Speaker 8: college game. I was at a high school camp last night.

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Speaker 8: Coach Lombardo and the Saint Edward Eagles had their quarterback

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Speaker 8: camp for young kids, and I went over to see

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Speaker 8: coach Lombardo U and he was teaching under center, and

686
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Speaker 8: he said, how many of you guys are under center

687
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Speaker 8: in grade school?

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Speaker 2: And not very many hands went up. So I think

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Speaker 2: as we.

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Speaker 8: Get them out of high school out of college, there's just,

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Speaker 8: you know, fewer reps of those going around, so not

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Speaker 8: many guys come in the league with under center. What

693
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Speaker 8: about Miles?

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Speaker 6: How nice to see Miles in the house and just

695
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Speaker 6: looks like he's obviously in great.

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Speaker 4: Shape and has worked hard.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, good to have Miles in the building, obviously being

698
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Speaker 8: around his teammates and as you can imagine it is

699
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Speaker 8: in great shape, and you know, it's good for us

700
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Speaker 8: to just see where these guys are get some work

701
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Speaker 8: in and obviously expose them to some of the different

702
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Speaker 8: nuances to what we're doing.

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Speaker 7: How important did you started the conversations between the quarterbacks

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Speaker 7: themselves to getting you know, not just the rookies on

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Speaker 7: you know, up to up to see, but even the

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Speaker 7: you know, a guy like Joe jo on the scene.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I've told you guys before and this is the truth,

708
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Speaker 8: and it's it's true today even I thought the discussion

709
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Speaker 8: that occurs in the quarterback room is outstanding. It's fun,

710
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Speaker 8: it's high level discussion, it's it's it's new for the

711
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Speaker 8: two young guys. But to hear the experiences of Joe,

712
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Speaker 8: Kenny Deshaun, I think it's an impressive thing for those

713
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Speaker 8: young guys to absorb. And there's a lot of different

714
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Speaker 8: stories that we hear of the guys and when we

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Speaker 8: have different reps from their careers that they can talk through.

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Speaker 8: But all of that is just invaluable for a young.

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Speaker 2: Koreyback to be able to do anything. In this week,

718
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Speaker 2: we'll see.

719
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Speaker 8: Yeah, they're they're working hard, they're getting close.

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Speaker 9: What does that mean?

721
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Speaker 4: For you young guys.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, more reps, more reps for those guys, and we've

723
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Speaker 8: asked a lot of them that they've done a great job.

724
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Speaker 2: They work extremely hard.

725
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Speaker 8: Coach O'Shea, coach Brabo Brown or are working hard with

726
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Speaker 8: those guys to get them up to speak.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, you've always been such a Nick chub Comlin there

728
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Speaker 2: the young getting his chance without Texan.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, obviously, you know, excited for Nick. I haven't talked

730
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Speaker 8: to him yet, but reached out to him. You know,

731
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Speaker 8: he's you guys know how I feel about him. He's

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Speaker 8: a huge part of our success here, a huge part

733
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Speaker 8: of this franchise. So we wish him luck and you

734
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Speaker 8: know it's something that we'll obviously stay in touch with

735
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Speaker 8: him throughout this year.

736
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Speaker 2: That's the last time you did in the off season

737
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Speaker 2: at some point, Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Kevin, you mentioned with the veteran quarterbacks, including Shan, how

739
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Speaker 10: involved is he in those meeting behind the scenes and

740
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Speaker 10: what do you young guys get out.

741
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Speaker 2: Of his presence.

742
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the value we have and and veterans in

743
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Speaker 8: that room. Deshaun says, you guys know, not practicing, but

744
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 8: he's rehabbing, attacking his rehab and you know, being a

745
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 8: resource for young players, which I think is a is

746
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 8: a great message about being a great teammate, being available

747
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 8: to all your young players, young and old, being available

748
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Speaker 8: to your teammates.

749
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Speaker 2: What do you think he gets out of being here

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Speaker 2: in the big Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I would hope any player that's here, whether they're rehabbing

752
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Speaker 8: or you know, practicing, whatever it is, I think there's

753
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Speaker 8: value in being around your teammates. Kevin, we were talking

754
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Speaker 8: about modifying seven out seven a little a little bit

755
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Speaker 8: to help the quarterbacks to feel the pocket, like I

756
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 8: imagine that's an effort to try to help them play

757
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Speaker 8: on time. Is that accurately, I'd say it's it's all

758
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 8: the above, Nate, I'd say it's playing on time. It's

759
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 8: under spatial awareness. It's feeling where the guard's going to be,

760
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Speaker 8: feeling where the tackles are going to be. It's it's

761
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Speaker 8: finding lanes to throw. When you have a shallow cross

762
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 8: coming from left to right, you have to find that

763
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 8: lane in the B gap the C gap as it

764
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 8: moves across. So it's just trying to give them a

765
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Speaker 8: little bit more of a visual. Other we've I've been

766
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 8: exposed with people have done it a thousand different ways,

767
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Speaker 8: but this is just one way that we feel like

768
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 8: is valuable. And it's also valuable for our offensive line

769
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Speaker 8: because they can work their stunts and games during that time.

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Speaker 6: When it comes to a couple more with that position,

771
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Speaker 6: going through the progressions the way you want getting vitovated

772
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Speaker 6: when you go, how hard is that you going?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 8: I think that's it's the bed rock of being efficient

775
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Speaker 8: on offenses, getting through progressions on time and accurately. Obviously

776
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Speaker 8: once the ball comes out, but being able to get

777
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Speaker 8: through a progression is not as easy as it sounds.

778
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Speaker 2: Your eyes are.

779
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Speaker 8: Studying the defense defenders and seeing what they're doing, and

780
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 8: then ultimately you're listening to your feet. To quote an

781
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 8: old Gary Kubiak line, you have a prescribed drop for

782
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 8: a play, and that drop and those hitches will take

783
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 8: you where the ball is supposed to go. So whenever

784
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 8: you do seven on seven, you know, naturally that's an

785
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 8: advantage offensive drill because there's no pass rush. But you

786
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 8: want the quarterbacks to put themselves in the game as

787
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 8: much as they can and stay true to their feet,

788
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Speaker 8: stay true.

789
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Speaker 2: To their progression.

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Speaker 7: Kevin Joel last week was talking about increased toughness, feeling

791
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Speaker 7: like there's increased toughness.

792
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Speaker 2: Emphasis on that.

793
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Speaker 7: How much has there been a topic of conversation, not

794
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 7: just with the offensive line, but across the board, you know,

795
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 7: increasing toughness, you know, building.

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Speaker 2: That up a little bit.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think the easy part is to talk about it.

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Speaker 8: That's the easy part you can do. I think the

799
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 8: hard part is making sure that we have you know, players,

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Speaker 8: coaches are We're putting them through a program that is

801
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 8: calousling up our bodies, our minds. So the work is hard,

802
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 8: but the easy part would be to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Course Industry. Guy, thank you so much for taking the

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Speaker 2: time and going easy on Gibbe in the hooligans. I'm

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Speaker 6: Gibbs is fun to play with, and it's quite the

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Speaker 6: day at Oakmont. This is a little bit different than

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Speaker 6: Wednesday night, a little different.

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Speaker 2: A little bit setup. Guy, for those of us watching

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Speaker 2: it who can't get over there, how would you describe

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Speaker 2: the conditions that these guys are playing on?

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Speaker 6: Okay, Bo, take the office golf course you've ever played,

835
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Speaker 6: and add about a dozen shots to that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I played at Deerfield Village and that's the

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Speaker 2: toughest one I've ever played, so even ten plus that. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Have you played it under tournament conditions?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, yeah, two weeks before the tournament? Okay?

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Speaker 3: Cool?

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Speaker 6: This this is just absolutely brutal out here and it

842
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Speaker 6: hasn't even firmed up. So just a little bit of

843
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Speaker 6: background about where Oakmont's at May was the wettest May

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Speaker 6: on record in Alligating County, which is the county that

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00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh's in, and that's where Oakmont is, so they really

846
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Speaker 6: don't quite have the fire in the golf course that

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Speaker 6: there was in two thousand and seven when on Hell

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Speaker 6: Cabrera won with a plus five. However, and this is

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Speaker 6: a big however, in twenty twenty three, they did a

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Speaker 6: golf course restoration. Gil Hants came in, worked with a

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Speaker 6: golf course superintendent Mike McCormick and the officials at Oakmont

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Speaker 6: and the USGA, and they expanded the greens by more

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Speaker 6: than two thousand square feet. And you're like, well, so,

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Speaker 6: what what does this have to do with scoring at

855
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Speaker 6: the twenty five US open well, that has opened up

856
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Speaker 6: a lot of whole locations that did not exist in

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Speaker 6: previous US opens here and where are those whole locations?

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Speaker 6: Bo and Jason, They are tucked. They are at you know, back, left, back, right, front, left,

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Speaker 6: front right. When they had the whole location sheet come

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Speaker 6: out around nine pm last night, I kind of just

861
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Speaker 6: looked at my head. Even though this golf course doesn't

862
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 6: have maybe the fiery or the fiightkiness in it and

863
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 6: the bounce, I was just thinking that this is going

864
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 6: to be a high scoring day. And right now we're

865
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 6: about halfway through the second round and the average scorers

866
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 6: around seventy five, which is five over par, and only

867
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 6: two players who have completed thirty six sols are under

868
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 6: part at this point, Sam Burns and Victor Hovlin.

869
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: I can't believe burn shot sixty five. I just can't

870
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: even know. It just isn't no, it's just nuts.

871
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's almost ten shots below the scoring average today.

872
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 6: Gained ten shots on the field.

873
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: Almost how would you describe? Obviously a lot is made

874
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: and we've seen balls. Just I watched Scotty this morning.

875
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: He's hits a t shot, it goes into the rough.

876
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: It's gone. The ball is gone as you've walked it.

877
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: What is that? What is that condition? How would you

878
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: describe it to the audience? How thick that? Okay?

879
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 6: So I was here on Monday and it was wet

880
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 6: out because it got doused on Sunday, and I was

881
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 6: walking on the rough the left of the first hole,

882
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 6: and from about one hundred and fifty yards into the green,

883
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 6: I stepped on three pro v ones that had just

884
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 6: been buried from all the member play before they closed

885
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 6: the golf course down to member play a few weeks ago.

886
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 6: So think about that. That means that the rough has

887
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 6: not been mowed down to two or three inches probably

888
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 6: for the entire season. And they're probably even more pro

889
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 6: v ones in there too. So this week they have

890
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 6: shaved it a bit of The USGA Chief Championships Officer

891
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 6: John Bodenhamer said that they're trying to keep it around

892
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 6: five inches. They've gone out and get this. Maybe you

893
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 6: guys have seen the images on social media. They have

894
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 6: members of the golf course maintenance team with push mowers.

895
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 6: They'll come out with two or three dozen of them

896
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 6: and they're push mowing just a little bit off that

897
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 6: top of that rough to keep it at five inches

898
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 6: and then in the morning. This is something that you

899
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 6: don't see. They have people go around with the golf

900
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,479
Speaker 6: course maintenance crew volunteers. They have two hundred volunteers helping

901
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 6: a fifty person golf course maintenance crew with backpack blowers

902
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 6: and leaf rakes, and they are fluffing up all the

903
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 6: rough inside the rope so that the ball drops down

904
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 6: to the.

905
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 2: Bottom of it. That's awful. It's not bottling. Guy.

906
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 6: Here's much about the springtime rof in northeast Ohio.

907
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: Right.

908
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 6: They can't get motors on it because it's too wet.

909
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 3: Now, you did see a little history that. Do you

910
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: see a hole in one in person today?

911
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was funny.

912
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 6: I was following Justin Thomas, Brooks, Koepka and Minwu Lee

913
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 6: and the group ahead of them was teamed off on

914
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 6: six and I was standing by sixty because that's near

915
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 6: five Green and the fairway on five and Justin Thomas

916
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 6: was getting ready to hit his second shot from about

917
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 6: one hundred yards on the fifth fairway, and he was

918
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 6: waiting for Victor Perez to hit just out of courtesy.

919
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 6: You know, you don't want two players hitting at once

920
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 6: in the US open and lo and behold, Victor Perez

921
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 6: pulled out from one hundred and ninety two yards front

922
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 6: left pole location on number six, and it was kind

923
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 6: of a subdue celebration. Nobody really knew what was going on.

924
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 6: It was pretty quiet. I would think that if something

925
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 6: like this happens in the afternoon, it might be a

926
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 6: little bit out of here. But yeah, it's the first

927
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 6: one I've seen in person in a long time. We

928
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 6: have a former hole again who had two in one season,

929
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 6: but I wasn't fortunate enough to be there for those.

930
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: Guy. How you know this is probably the answer to

931
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: this is as close as we're going to get to

932
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: a major championship in the state of Ohio. I mean,

933
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: we're just there's none on the schedule. There's no plans

934
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 2: for one anytime anywhere any place soon. It's probably gonna

935
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: have to be making this trip over to Pittsburgh for

936
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: the folks who want to go over because the US

937
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: Open is going to be there. It looks like about

938
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: every six years or so at Oakmont. How is the

939
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: fan experience there? I'd heard some complaining about the pedestrian

940
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 2: bridges crossing over the turnpike there, Like what is the

941
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: what is the spectator experience been like over there?

942
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 6: Well, you're absolutely right. They will not be a major

943
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 6: championship men's major championship played in Ohio anytime in the

944
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 6: next two decades. I know Inverness Club in Toledo is

945
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 6: pumping really, really hard. But if you look at the

946
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 6: USGA and the PGA, they have their sites set pretty

947
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 6: much through twenty fifty and Oakmont is one of the

948
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 6: USGA's anchor sites along with Pinehurst, Pebble Beach, Chennecock Hills,

949
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 6: Wingfoot has a few on the rotation. So yeah, Ohio

950
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 6: is absolutely out of it. The good thing is it's

951
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 6: an easy drive from Cleveland to Oakmont, which is northeast

952
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 6: of Pittsburgh. It's basically two hours down the turnpike. The

953
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 6: logistics aren't bad. Yes, you did bring up the pedestrian bridge,

954
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 6: Bo and Jason. This dates myself, but the first golf

955
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 6: Teram and I ever went to was the nineteen ninety

956
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 6: four US Open at Oakmont and they only had one

957
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 6: bridge going oh Pike then, so now they have three.

958
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 6: They're able to get maintenance vehicles over. Players go across

959
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 6: a separate one and then fans go over one. I

960
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 6: think today. I was waiting ten minutes at one point

961
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 6: to go across it. So as bad as some of

962
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 6: the images look, it's not quite what it used to be.

963
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 6: The fan experience is pretty good. The reason Oakmont's on

964
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 6: the rotation is a the history of the club. It's

965
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 6: hosted a US Open every decade besides the nineteen forties

966
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 6: when there was World War II. Since the nineteen twenties,

967
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 6: they're hosting its record tenth So the golf course is

968
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 6: historic and eight brutal test. But the infrastructure here is amazing.

969
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 6: There used to be a public course which I remember

970
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 6: playing as a child called Oakmont East up above the

971
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 6: second and third hall. That's just now all infrastructure for

972
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 6: US Opens, and a few years ago they bought a

973
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 6: twenty two acre plot across street just for parking. So

974
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 6: in terms of tournament infrastructure, Bo and Jason, it's it's

975
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 6: the best I've seen besides Augusta National. And it's a

976
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 6: darn good fan experience, And hey, if you want, you

977
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 6: can go and get tickets online pretty easily if you're

978
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 6: willing to pay. And it's the closest we'll get to

979
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 6: a major championship in Northeast Ohio. I know Oakland Hills

980
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 6: has one in the twenty thirty, so I guess it

981
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 6: depends what part of Cleveland suburbs you live in. But

982
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 6: this is right down the road and it's a great

983
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 6: place to watch golf, and it just uses history. You

984
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 6: feel at the moment you walk onto the grounds.

985
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 2: Here, did you like it better with trees or without?

986
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 6: You know, I was talking about this today with a

987
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 6: friend who's not an agronomous and hopefully none of my

988
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 6: agronomous friends are listening to this, because trees are bad

989
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 6: for turf health, as a lot of people know. It

990
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 6: looks really really strange when you stand up on the

991
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 6: ninth Green and the clubhouse and look down and you

992
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 6: just see the sea of green. There's some trees on

993
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 6: the periphery. It is the closest thing to maybe links

994
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 6: of course we have. So I do think that that's

995
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 6: pretty cool. But it's kind of strange that a club

996
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 6: has an iconic logo of a squirrel and there's no

997
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 6: squirrels to be found anywhere on this property. So, uh,

998
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 6: that's that's a loaded question for me in my world.

999
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 6: You know, Oakmond has always been lovely, and uh, I

1000
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 6: like it just the way it is right now, and

1001
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 6: I'm sure it'll evolve over the next four or five

1002
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 6: decades because all golf courses due and that's just that's

1003
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,479
Speaker 6: just the nature of golf course maintenance and golf course

1004
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 6: design and playability and aesthetics and that type of thing.

1005
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 6: So I'm sure there'll be another iteration of Oakmond down

1006
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 6: down the road.

1007
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: This was fun, man, Thank you so much for your

1008
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: perspective and time. Greatly appreciate it.

1009
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 6: Yep, yeah, thanks guys, I really appreciate you having me.

1010
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: All right, there's you go, your buddy there he is.

1011
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 2: Look at that guy locked in, Guy Cipriano joining US

1012
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: Ghost Publisher, editor in chief golf Course Industry. So that

1013
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 2: was right in his wheelhouse.

1014
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: The trees, no trees, Yeah, I was, and and he

1015
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 3: knows the history. That was a good question about the

1016
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: whole major thing.

1017
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: It sucks. It's the truth. It does suck. There's not

1018
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: a firestone obviously could and I know they have a

1019
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: senior major coming up. I want to say there next weekend.

1020
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: It just and those are nice, they do a great

1021
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 2: job with it, but it's not the same as a

1022
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: as a as a major, and it I think because

1023
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: it's out of the PGA mix now, I don't know

1024
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 2: if it'll ever be considered again for it Inverness. Maybe

1025
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: it's long enough now, But that was always something that

1026
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: was happening. There really is only one in the state,

1027
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: and it's Merefield Village that is set up for it

1028
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: in every way, stadium, golf and all of that. But

1029
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: Jack is not going to not play the Memorial Tournament.

1030
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: And when they moved the PGA to August, it takes

1031
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: Mierfield out of it because it's not given that up

1032
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 2: Sorry or May, I'm sorry into May. Yeah, it used

1033
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 2: to be August into May. When they moved it from

1034
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: August to May, that took it, took it out of

1035
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: it because that course is very different in May than

1036
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: it is in what you get in August. But that's

1037
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: the one course that could do it. And I've even

1038
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: asked Jack about that. He didn't particularly like it. But

1039
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 2: I've even suggested, like, would you play them Momorial Tournament

1040
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: at Siota, which is going to host the US Senior

1041
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 2: Open next year? Would you play that at Siota for

1042
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 2: a year and then let the US Open be played

1043
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: at Meerfield once And they're not really interested in that. No,

1044
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: So yeah. Now, the closest we're gonna get is Oakmont.

1045
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 2: That's that's where it is because it's all booked up

1046
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: from from that point. On second hour of the program,

1047
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: up next among the topics, we will go around the

1048
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Speaker 2: sports world, update you on some NFL news of the

1049
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Speaker 2: day as well a little bit of mail bag. Jerad

1050
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Speaker 2: Cherry's gonna broke drive the program a little bit for

1051
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1052
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Speaker 2: with new offensive line coach Mike Bloomgren on Dewan Jones.

1065
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think Dwan's done some good things. You talk

1066
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 10: about like what you've seen this offseason just as the

1067
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Speaker 10: osp started. You talk about the steps that he's taken.

1068
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Speaker 10: He's been at everything, he's attacked his rehab and he's

1069
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Speaker 10: lost some weight with So I think those are good

1070
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Speaker 10: starting points. I think there's so much good in the

1071
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 10: package that is Dewan Jones, things that certainly you can't coach,

1072
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Speaker 10: you know, from a length, a size standpoint athleticism. There's

1073
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 10: a lot of good in there. But he's certainly not

1074
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 10: a finished product.

1075
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 2: He's got to stay healthy. Yeah, it starts there. He's

1076
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 2: just got to stay healthy. And he's in here with

1077
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: us earlier in the week and he looks great. Ye

1078
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: drop some lbs. Uh, he's been here. I can I

1079
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: can tell you because as I walk in, he walks

1080
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 2: out almost every day because he's been here all morning rehabbing.

1081
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: So he looks great, and it's just about can he

1082
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: stay healthy? If he can stay healthy, And this is

1083
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 2: the cool thing about I don't think you you could

1084
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: ever question Dwan Jones as why like his give a

1085
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: damn level is very high, and I think as long

1086
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: as he is, if he can stay healthy, then the

1087
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: gains on that financially are just out of this world

1088
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: because he is a stud when he's healthy, he is

1089
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: a stud tackle.

1090
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, now he's he's got to learn to play left tackle.

1091
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 6: Uh.

1092
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 3: And he had some baptism by fire moments this week

1093
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: going up against the Miles.

1094
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll do it.

1095
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 3: I mean Miles at one point in a in a

1096
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 3: play yesterday took two steps and was by him in

1097
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: at the quarterback.

1098
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: That will happen.

1099
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 3: But that that's just needing to learn and getting the

1100
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: reps down and being able to play that position. If

1101
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 3: anybody can attack it and be successful, I think Dewan can.

1102
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but we need him to. We need him to.

1103
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: He's you know because otherwise if he can't stay healthy,

1104
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: then you have to and you're gonna have to address

1105
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: tackle next year in the draft anyway. But like the

1106
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 2: older line, you do, you got you got old quick, Yeah,

1107
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: interior and on the exterior. So if we can get

1108
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 2: if Dewan can be healthy and play to what we

1109
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 2: all know he can, then that would be a very

1110
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: very big help. Here's wide receiver coach Chad O'Shea asked

1111
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 2: if wide receiver Deontay Johnson has a lot of catching

1112
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 2: up to do.

1113
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 4: I would say this, anybody new to our system, which

1114
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 4: Deontay is has, has a long way to go, whether

1115
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 4: it's a rookie or a free agent acquisition or somebody

1116
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 4: that we signed in the off season. So I think

1117
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 4: with all of our new players, there's always a long

1118
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 4: way to go. Certainly, he's trying to get out here

1119
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 4: and get caught up to speed, learning our offense, learning

1120
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 4: how we do things, and learning as teammates. So training camp,

1121
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 4: he'll be here and we look forward to working with him.

1122
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 4: And uh, you know, the more he can be out there,

1123
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 4: the more he has an opportunity to play.

1124
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: He and he is the answer to It's kind of

1125
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 2: a lottery ticket. If he's right and healthy and good

1126
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,479
Speaker 2: to go and locked in, then receiver can change in hurry.

1127
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 2: I sung with Andrew and I were talking about this yesterday.

1128
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 2: Like him and Tillman are the two guys who that

1129
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,479
Speaker 2: that the ceiling on both those guys is a little

1130
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 2: higher than the other guys that are there outside of Jerry.

1131
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 2: So if he can be there, then then you got

1132
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 2: then that room looks much better, much better.

1133
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 3: Well, you need them both, Yeah, because outside of Jerry Judy,

1134
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 3: I mean, Jamari Thrash look good this week, but again

1135
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 3: he's going from year one to year two. Tilman, you

1136
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: know can do it, You've seen him do it, but

1137
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 3: injuries have plugged him a little bit. The concussion last

1138
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 3: year was pretty serious. Obviously. Deontae said, I had a

1139
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 3: bad year. I had one bad year, bad, five good ones.

1140
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 3: I had one bad. Okay, I'm counting on that.

1141
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 2: Yep.

1142
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 3: We we need that in a desperate way because we

1143
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 3: have to have guys that can get downfield to open

1144
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 3: up everything underneath for the tight ends and running backs.

1145
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no question that that is needed. The great

1146
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 2: Hoff was on RBS earlier this week. Let's start with

1147
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: the question of can someone stand out in mini camp

1148
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: and separate themselves from the pack.

1149
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,479
Speaker 11: I think you can make a difference, and I think

1150
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 11: the guys in that room really will start to see

1151
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 11: players separate themselves at that quarterback position, and they'll start

1152
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 11: to understand where that pecking order is. I think it's

1153
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 11: a little bit harder for a fan, even if I

1154
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 11: were sitting at practice after playing for eleven years with

1155
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 11: the Browns, because I don't know exactly what the quarterbacks

1156
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 11: are being told on that play. I don't know where

1157
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 11: the reds are. It's a little hard to tell. Yeah,

1158
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 11: you can tell if somebody completed the past, but this

1159
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 11: if scripted, you know, for success or for certain things

1160
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 11: to be seen in that practice, like maybe they want

1161
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 11: to have Schoud or see Blitz this from his left side.

1162
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 11: They want to see a Vegan escape to his right.

1163
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 11: So they're putting them in situations they want to see him.

1164
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 11: And so it's really not an apples to apples comparison

1165
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 11: from a fan standpoint. But if you're in those meeting

1166
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,959
Speaker 11: rooms and you're sitting there with those quarterbacks, you're sitting

1167
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 11: there with those other players as receivers, Like that's the

1168
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 11: people that will really start to be able to tell

1169
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 11: you like, hey, this guy is really doing a great

1170
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 11: job he's as advertised, or this person separating himself or

1171
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 11: Flacco still looks really good. You know, that's where you'll

1172
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 11: really start to be able to tell, and where you'll

1173
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 11: have guys separating themselves and then it'll kind of set

1174
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 11: you up because I think going into training camp, you'll

1175
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 11: get a better idea of all right, this is our

1176
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 11: starter right now, right, and then this is where those

1177
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 11: other guys are falling.

1178
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's like we've been saying all week,

1179
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: all the pieces matter, and so every chance you get.

1180
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: We were at that same event of referenced a couple

1181
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 2: of times. There was a young young boy who asked

1182
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 2: a question about es ab who practices the hardest, which was,

1183
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 2: you know, a great question. Maybe answered Look, I mean

1184
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 2: they all you know, he wasn't going to do, you know,

1185
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: nail name someone by name. But I followed up and

1186
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: I said, and I think this is true. There is

1187
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 2: no time to not go your hardest out here. It's

1188
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 2: an hour and a half, an hour and fifteen minutes.

1189
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 2: It's so minimal, and it's your job. And so like,

1190
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 2: if you're out here half asking it in the league,

1191
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 2: you won't be in it long. Correct, It's kind of

1192
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: the answer. So like and for so many guys, like

1193
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 2: every single piece, every rep is so critical to trying

1194
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 2: to sustain or create an NFL career, there really is

1195
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: no time. Well think about it.

1196
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 3: You had guys from college, you know, first or second

1197
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 3: year players that their college just paid them to go

1198
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 3: there and play football. Yeah, and you came in here

1199
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 3: and you go, all right, great, I'll do my thing.

1200
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: You'll pay me to do this. Oh wait, there's ninety

1201
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 3: people here. Fifty three are going to make the roster,

1202
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 3: and that back end of the roster could change. All

1203
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,479
Speaker 3: of these guys are playing for livelihoods, yep, to feed

1204
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 3: their families. And we can talk about how much a

1205
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 3: player makes or doesn't make. Fine, I understand you know

1206
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 3: that they're compensated and compensated very well.

1207
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: That that's what sports is. Uh huh.

1208
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 3: But the difference between being in the league and being

1209
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 3: and not being in the league, there's there's a fine line,

1210
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 3: and it's a slippery slope, and you have to be

1211
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 3: at your best this time of year, especially because this

1212
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 3: determines your reps come training camp.

1213
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you slip down that slope too far,

1214
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: it's really tough to dig your way back out.

1215
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 3: And then, like if you're a if you're a third

1216
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 3: or four string guy, you might get in eleven on eleven,

1217
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 3: seven on seven's in training camp, you might get four reps,

1218
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 3: five reps, and if you don't stand out, you're just

1219
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 3: a guy yep, and then you're gone.

1220
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1221
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 7: Uh.

1222
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 2: Here is haff on RBS. What the players need to

1223
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 2: do for the next five weeks before camp officially starts.

1224
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 11: More than anything, I think, especially for the veteran guys,

1225
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 11: but even for the rookies too. You got to have

1226
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 11: that clear head, right, You've got to get away from football.

1227
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 11: You got to get away from the media. You got

1228
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 11: to get away from all that pressure. You're still focused

1229
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 11: on all right, what are the things that I don't

1230
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 11: do very well? How do I work on them? You know,

1231
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 11: you're not only are you doing your lifting and your conditioning,

1232
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,479
Speaker 11: but you're doing position specific work.

1233
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean we talked with Kevin, talked about that,

1234
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: the players. We've talked about that a lot. It's uh,

1235
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: you got to clear your head a little bit. So

1236
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 2: five weeks off for those guys and then they'll be

1237
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 2: back for training camp. In Non Brown's news busy yesterday

1238
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 2: down in Columbus athletic director ross By Orke I'll summarize

1239
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: this is some of the kind of the big headlines

1240
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: from this. Number One, they have to give away twenty

1241
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 2: and a half million dollars now because of the house settlement,

1242
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 2: they have to pay that money to certain players. They

1243
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: decided that they're going to pay football men's basketball, women's basketball,

1244
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: and women's volleyball are the four athletic programs at Ohio

1245
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 2: State that are going to receive money from that, and

1246
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: that the last two for title nine reasons, and the

1247
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: reason they picked volleyball is because of the importance it

1248
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 2: is in the Big Ten. So he also reiterated they're

1249
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: going to keep all thirty six varsity sports, which is

1250
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: just impossible for me to wrap my head around that

1251
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: they're going to do that. Ohio State currently has more

1252
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 2: men's sports than Texas has total sports, and they're the

1253
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: most like athletic departments of the country. Just to give

1254
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 2: an example of how big it is. Everything with college

1255
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: sports is going to change every day. There's gonna be

1256
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit, none of it. Write it

1257
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: all in number two pencil. Don't write anything it ain't

1258
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 2: because it's not worth the paper it's written on if

1259
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 2: you do. One of the things that's been an issue

1260
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 2: all year for them all off season has been the

1261
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: idea of noon games. Ohio State fans are fatigued that

1262
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: basically every big game they play has to be at noon.

1263
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 2: Ross Bjork, who is awesome, is the athletic director of

1264
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 2: Ohio State. Now, he had some comments about that yesterday,

1265
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: probably the most direct I've ever heard in Ohio State

1266
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: administrator discuss these type of matters, which is why I

1267
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: like him so much. Here's ross.

1268
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 12: Look, I think our program, our fans deserve some marquee

1269
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 12: night games. But really, at the end of the day,

1270
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 12: there's no flexibility in the contracts. Fox bought the noon window,

1271
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 12: CBS bought the afternoon window, and NBC has the night window,

1272
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 12: and then the Big Ten network in Peacock, you know,

1273
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 12: layer into that. So what we need is we need

1274
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 12: more flexibility. Can that happen anytime soon? I don't know,

1275
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 12: but I think every program should deserve the right to

1276
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 12: have way more flexibility. We have carried the day for

1277
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 12: Big Noon. There's no question about it if you look

1278
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 12: at the viewership. So we understand why Fox went with

1279
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 12: Big Noon. We understand why we're picked all the time.

1280
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're picked all the time because they deliver ratings.

1281
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 2: And there's really only two programs in the Big ten

1282
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 2: that can deliver ratings at noon, and it's Ohio State

1283
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 2: and Michigan. Everything else is it falls off a cliff

1284
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 2: pretty dramatically. What I mean by Kerrie Big noon is

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Speaker 2: Ohio State, especially in Michigan. To a lesser extent, you

1286
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: can play Ohio State Rutgers at noon and get three

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Speaker 2: and a half million people to watch. Michigan's close that

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Speaker 2: Ohio State's only one that can do that. You cannot

1289
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Speaker 2: do that with, for example, Penn State. Penn State has

1290
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 2: to play Wisconsin or another decently branded in order for

1291
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: them to get around three million. So the reality is

1292
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: is that Ohio State is way over taxed by playing

1293
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 2: big noon. It was all in the fine print of

1294
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 2: the contract they signed with Fox. Fox has the first

1295
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 2: three picks in the television draft, and inevitably they pick

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Speaker 2: Ohio State Michigan first, and usually the big non conference

1297
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 2: game for Ohio State second. The reason that they didn't

1298
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: get Oregon last year's because you can't play at noon

1299
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: in Eugene. And so the other part of this is

1300
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,479
Speaker 2: the Big Ten added four teams on the West Coast

1301
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 2: that can't play at noon, So there's no way to

1302
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 2: ever play USC, UCLA, Washington, Oregon at noon in that window.

1303
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: So what that means is that until twenty twenty nine,

1304
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: when this contract is up. I really believe this to

1305
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 2: be true, every Top ten game Ohio State plays in

1306
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 2: the Horseshoe will be played at noon, and that sucks

1307
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: and the fans are sick of it.

1308
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 3: And I don't blame him. Yeah, should be. Here's my question,

1309
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 3: because we talk. He mentioned all the networks. Yeah, what's

1310
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 3: going on Big ten network with what with anything?

1311
01:02:59,240 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 12: Like?

1312
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 2: What do you mean what's college football?

1313
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 7: Like?

1314
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: Do they stop? Yeah? Of course, yeah, they got a

1315
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 2: game at noon, three thirty and seven. It's it's Rutgers,

1316
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 2: it's Maryland, it's Minnesota, it's Illinois, it's Northwestern, it's Purdue,

1317
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 2: it's Indiana. Dude. Think of the garbage brands in that league. Yeah,

1318
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: there's a ton of the haves and have nots. Oh dude,

1319
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 2: and there there's eight teams in that league that can't

1320
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 2: draw a million people to watch. Half the league is nonsense,

1321
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 2: doesn't and doesn't mean their football programs are I think

1322
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 2: their football programs, some of them are very good and

1323
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 2: are probably better than they get credit for. I'm talking

1324
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 2: about their branding. Who cares about Purdue football than people

1325
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: who went to Purdue.

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Speaker 3: I'll wait, Yeah, No, you're right, You're not wrong. I

1327
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 3: don't I don't know what you if your a Big

1328
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 3: ten network. What do you say, are you able to

1329
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Speaker 3: sell that? Are you able to sell those games?

1330
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Speaker 2: They built that net, They built that conference on the

1331
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 2: idea of cable by matting forever, and cable buy doesn't

1332
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 2: matter as much anymore. It still matters, but it doesn't

1333
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 2: as much. And so that's why they added Maryland and Rutgers.

1334
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 2: If you were to jump in a in a DeLorean

1335
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 2: and throw a banana in it and misrefusion and go back,

1336
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: they had a chance. After they grabbed Nebraska, they could

1337
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: have grabbed Texas and Oklahoma and Oklahoma state probably that

1338
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: I would have been a proponent of that, but there

1339
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 2: was talk of Kansas too. But you could have got

1340
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 2: Texas in Oklahoma. That's what you should have done. That

1341
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: would have lifted Nebraska, would have give them people to

1342
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 2: play with in their sandbox, would have kept Texas recruiting

1343
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 2: open for Nebraska. So they could have done that traditional

1344
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 2: rivalries with all three, and then you would have had

1345
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 2: a lot of You would have been able to share

1346
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: kind of in the big noon responsibilities. You would have

1347
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: been able to share in all of it. They thought

1348
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 2: if they were in the New York and DC markets

1349
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: that that would matter most and it never. It didn't

1350
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: matter in the moment other than for short term gain

1351
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 2: of cable buy, and it sure as hell doesn't matter

1352
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: ten years later, over ten years later, when all that

1353
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 2: really matters is are you a football entity that we

1354
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 2: can sell? Because none of those programs, none of them are. Yeah.

1355
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: So not that I don't have a lot to say

1356
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 2: on that, or haven't already said, this is what we do.

1357
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Speaker 2: One other thing, this is interesting. Brian Rolap, longtime NFL

1358
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: executive who considered as a potential successor to NFL commission

1359
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: Roger Goodell, is leaving his post as the league's EVP

1360
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 2: to become the PGA tour CEO. He's been with the

1361
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Speaker 2: NFL for twenty two years. That's a tough job, PGA

1362
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 2: tour CEO, with the live stuff. How do you even what?

1363
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 2: I don't Why leave the league? Maybe just to prove

1364
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 2: Maybe go out on your own for two years until

1365
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: Goodell retires, so that you can prove to the owners

1366
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: that you can run it well. I would think it'd

1367
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 2: be pretty good if Goodell retires. Maybe that's it. Maybe

1368
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 2: that's what the whole thing is. Like, go show you

1369
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 2: can build your own sandbox, and you can come back

1370
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 2: and play in ours.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that how often does that actually work?

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Speaker 2: Well? I think Godel's got a couple of years left. Yeah.

1373
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 2: So now to your point, I think the job he

1374
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 2: just took one of the toughest jobs in professional sports.

1375
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Speaker 3: And if you're fail start, you're not getting back in

1376
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 3: the sandbox.

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Speaker 2: Well, to be fair, how can it be worse than

1378
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 2: it is? They've lost half their best players to a

1379
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: rival tour. Yeah, it's not in a good place at all.

1380
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Speaker 2: I mean, you got Rory doesn't talk two weeks for

1381
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: two weeks like you got. It's it's a bit of

1382
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 2: a mess. Yeahs as it currently stands. We'll get Gerard's

1383
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 2: view of what he saw from Mini camp. Coming up

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Speaker 2: of the flats. I believe is your UH is your location,

1395
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Speaker 2: my friend? All right, you were out here, I saw you.

1396
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Speaker 2: So the conversations that we had in the lobby now

1397
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Speaker 2: we'll have on the air, my friend, at least some

1398
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Speaker 2: of them will keep some bit between you and I.

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Speaker 2: Obviously I heard that from from a from your perspective.

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Speaker 2: Did this team get done what it needed to get

1401
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 2: done in mini camp? Yeah? It did.

1402
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 9: And the main reason why I say that boat is

1403
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 9: because of the fact they set a tone, and that

1404
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 9: tone was, no, we're not gonna lolly gag. We're not

1405
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 9: gonna just prancing around. We're gonna do things with more

1406
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 9: intention and more intensity, and we're gonna go out there

1407
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 9: and get after it, and we're gonna test you guys,

1408
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 9: and we're gonna make it more physically challenging. They needed

1409
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 9: to do that because last year was not the case.

1410
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: One of the things I had UH Kevin Sefanski and

1411
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 2: studio with me yesterday, and I didn't expect him to

1412
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 2: tell me the plan, but I know that he has one,

1413
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 2: and I know all of these reps matter. If you

1414
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 2: were him and you had this situation that we have

1415
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: at quarterback with four guys, incredibly different backgrounds, ages, all

1416
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 2: of it. It's a really diverse group. How would you

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01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 2: How would you conduct this competition to make sure that

1418
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 2: everyone is doing the same things, in other words, so

1419
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 2: that the playing field is level for every single guy

1420
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: to be able to try to win the job.

1421
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 9: Great question, And what I would do bo is I

1422
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,839
Speaker 9: make sure there were the equal amount of underneath throws,

1423
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 9: intermediate throws, and deep throws. And I would also make sure,

1424
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 9: in some way, somehow that I would scheme it so

1425
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 9: that the defense is giving me the same looks and

1426
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 9: who does better in those scenarios. But more so, what

1427
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 9: I would do is make sure that I want to

1428
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 9: see who's overcoming. I already have a defense that's geared

1429
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 9: toward this guy's failure, but who can still make a play.

1430
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 2: That's how I would go about it, and I would.

1431
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 9: Divvy it up, and whoever's making plays in situations where

1432
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 9: they're not supposed to make plays, that tells me that

1433
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 9: I have an elevator on my on my side and

1434
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 9: I have a guy who can handle it. That's how

1435
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 9: I would go about it, and then I, like I said,

1436
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 9: I give a nice distribution in which everyone's getting reps

1437
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 9: with the ones, the twos or threes in the fours,

1438
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 9: and I'm rotating.

1439
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 2: To that end. How long can they keep this up

1440
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: with four in the camp?

1441
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 9: Ten days maximum?

1442
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, ten days because.

1443
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 9: At some point once Carolina or we go there rather

1444
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 9: and Philly is on the horizon, Yeah, you'll still have

1445
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 9: a chance to do that, and you'll probably single it

1446
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 9: down to two guys. It won't be four anymore. So

1447
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 9: that'll help the call, so to speak. But as you

1448
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 9: get closer and closer to that game against the Rams,

1449
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 9: that guy needs to be identified.

1450
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 2: In my mind, I couldn't agree with you more. And

1451
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 2: I think that And Kevin talked about this with me

1452
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 2: yesterday and he's addressed it a couple of times. I

1453
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 2: know throughout spring, those those joint practices are the most

1454
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: important things that are And now those preseason games are

1455
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 2: gonna be big two and you're gonna be on the

1456
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 2: sidelines for all those But like all of those reps

1457
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 2: are gonna matter for all of those guys in terms

1458
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 2: of the big picture. But to me, you've got to

1459
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: have two guys two, not three, even gerd, You've gotta

1460
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 2: have two guys that are kind of in the competition

1461
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 2: at those two men at those two joint practices, because

1462
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: I don't think otherwise it's spread way too thin. There

1463
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 2: just isn't enough time to get everybody the ample reps, right.

1464
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 9: Because at some point, and we see each year, yes

1465
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 9: you still I say the first ten days of training

1466
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 9: camp are competition mode, and this always competition. So let

1467
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 9: me preface it by saying that at some point you

1468
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 9: start to have to go down the path of formulating

1469
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 9: the bonds of a team, right, and not every man

1470
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 9: for himself mentality or I'm trying to get mine, so

1471
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,759
Speaker 9: I'm fighting for the starring position. I mean, you always

1472
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 9: working towards a team intality, but it really has to

1473
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 9: start honing in and starting with the messaging of we're

1474
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 9: a team. This is what we're going to accomplish. But

1475
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 9: in order to do that, it certainly requires that you

1476
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 9: have a guy who is pronounced as your leader on

1477
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 9: the offensive side of the ball defensively, I don't think

1478
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 9: we're gonna have a problem identifying those guys and putting

1479
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 9: them in a position of power to lead offensively.

1480
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 2: It has to be the quarterback.

1481
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 9: In my mind, he has to play a pre eminent

1482
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 9: part in the whole idea of leadership and directing his

1483
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 9: team and guys following his lead. So I think after

1484
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 9: ten days you start transitioning towards that. And at the

1485
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 9: end of training camp, when guys look around and see

1486
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 9: that the ninety guys that started with him aren't there,

1487
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 9: they can look across the field and identify that's a captain,

1488
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 9: that's a leader.

1489
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 2: That's a guy who's.

1490
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 9: Gonna help us get there, and I'm gonna follow his lead,

1491
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 9: or I'm gonna do my part from a player to

1492
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,560
Speaker 9: player accountability standpoint.

1493
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 2: Give me one thought all four quarterbacks. Okay, from what

1494
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 2: you saw this week.

1495
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 9: Joe Flacco, I didn't see much activity, but I saw

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Speaker 9: promising that in my mind, he's still the best quarterback

1497
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Speaker 9: out there.

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Speaker 1: Go to Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 9: I saw a situation in which he had moments to

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Speaker 9: where I said, Okay, I see what they're thinking, I

1501
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 9: see what they're feeling regards to him, but there needs

1502
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 9: to be more consistency with making plays. Same thing I

1503
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 9: felt with Gabriel as well is that, Okay, you're getting

1504
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 9: great opportunities make more plays. But I'm also encouraged by

1505
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 9: the fact that you bounce back from having a rough outing.

1506
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 9: The same thing with Kenny Pickett as well, but with

1507
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 9: Gabriel though it took place in the same practice. With Kenny,

1508
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 9: it took place the next day and shed it. To

1509
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 9: his credit, he's been consistently delivering the football, and that's

1510
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 9: really what I would say regards to him, is that

1511
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 9: it's been consistent and he's shown the mosk with throwing

1512
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 9: the deep passes as well.

1513
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:41,839
Speaker 2: He throws a nice ball, doesn't.

1514
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 9: He, Yeah, certainly does so to his credit, well, yeah.

1515
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he sees it well, he layers it well.

1516
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 2: I thought Dylan really shined yesterday. I'm sorry, uh, Wednesday,

1517
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 2: Wednesday in the play action game.

1518
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, like I said that Wednesday, it started off rough.

1519
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 9: It was like zerover three and not able to get

1520
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 9: the passes off. And it has something to do with

1521
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 9: obviously the protection, but it just wasn't clean. It wasn't

1522
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 9: what you wanted to see. But again, once he got

1523
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 9: into that second half of practices, like a whole different

1524
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 9: quarterback was out there.

1525
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: The confidence was.

1526
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 9: There, delivered the football and then you could feel and

1527
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 9: since his presence after that, So that was encouraging because

1528
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 9: a lot of people don't bounce back from that.

1529
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 2: No, no, good point, all right. In terms of the

1530
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 2: other new guys, uh, Swessenger at linebacker, it's hard with

1531
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 2: Graham because we're not in pads and so it's hard,

1532
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 2: you know, that's so difficult to detackle. But you can

1533
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 2: see Sweastnger running space, you can see the two backs,

1534
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 2: and you can see Fannin. Did any of those have

1535
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 2: moments that you paid attention to over the last couple

1536
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 2: of days. Yeah.

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01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 9: I love the way Sweassenger ran across the field, was

1538
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 9: in the right position and just seems like a guy

1539
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 9: ready to go and make plays, so that you certainly

1540
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 9: appreciate Harold Fannin. Man, I haven't seen him drop a ball.

1541
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 9: It's like once the ball is in his vicinity, it's caught.

1542
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 9: And they went to him on active back to back

1543
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 9: plays and he showed no signs of fatigue. Bow He

1544
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 9: showed no signs of saying okay, I need a break

1545
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 9: or a blow or anything like that. So I really

1546
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 9: do think that we have something special to him. And

1547
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 9: you didn't ask me about the rookies running backs. Same

1548
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 9: thing with those guys. I see explosiveness. I see guys

1549
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 9: who are understanding that it's about hitting the hole and

1550
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 9: once you get into the open field, turn.

1551
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: On the juice.

1552
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah he did. Yeah. They they're all those guys are

1553
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 2: They all look great? Young guys look great. It's an

1554
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 2: exciting they really do. Yeah.

1555
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 3: Jerro. To me, it looked like the defense had their

1556
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 3: swagger back. Yes, yes, I didn't see that. I we

1557
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 3: didn't see it in season. But I feel like there

1558
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,839
Speaker 3: was a lot of chirping. There was a lot of talking.

1559
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 3: And this is a defense that knows their deep. They

1560
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 3: have a ton of guys on the defensive line. They

1561
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 3: their secondary is well rounded, the safeties are they've got

1562
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 3: some experience, and the linebacker crew. I know they've lost

1563
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 3: Jail okay, but they feel like they made up for it.

1564
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,719
Speaker 3: This defense looks like they have their swagger back.

1565
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,759
Speaker 2: No doubt about. The swag was in full effect.

1566
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 9: The personality was out there and you heard it, you

1567
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 9: sensed it, and they let the offense know every time

1568
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 9: they made it play and they dominated that they again,

1569
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 9: they pronounced it with no issues and no problems, and

1570
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 9: they were having fun. Now the offense they did their thing,

1571
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 9: but in comparison it was not even close. It's like

1572
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 9: one was Mount Rushmore about the or Mount Saint Helens

1573
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 9: rather about the blow up. Another was a quiet scene

1574
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 9: in mouse Mount Rushmore, so the defense being Saint Helens

1575
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 9: and the offense being Rushmore. We need that same type

1576
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 9: of vibe on the offensive side of football, and I

1577
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 9: think we'll get that once we figure out what's going

1578
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 9: on with for our quarterback situation. But the defense, to

1579
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 9: their credit, like you said, give me, they dominated and

1580
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 9: they let you know about it.

1581
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 3: So offensively, just a whole team standpoint quarterback. Obviously, biggest

1582
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 3: question is the second biggest question wide receiver.

1583
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 9: I knew you were going to say that, and the

1584
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 9: answer is yes, it is wide receiver. Because you pay

1585
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 9: to love Jerry Judy and from what I saw the

1586
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 9: two days that I observed Mini camp, it was clear

1587
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 9: to me that Deontay Johnson, with the guys who will participate,

1588
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,879
Speaker 9: was your second best receiver. So not a question becomes.

1589
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 9: As he said yesterday, don't judge me on one year

1590
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 9: of my career. I've had five promising years in the

1591
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 9: National Football League. Don't judge me on what took place

1592
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 9: last year. I'm gonna hold him to that and not

1593
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 9: judge him, but I certainly felt that he and Judy

1594
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 9: were in a class by himself, and there are a

1595
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 9: couple other guys who have a great opportunity here like

1596
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 9: what I saw that thrash and he has.

1597
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 3: Said Tillman, I didn't see him.

1598
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 9: I can't comment on hm because I didn't see him,

1599
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 9: but we do need him to do something.

1600
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Draw, and I agree with you. I actually think

1601
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 2: like you don't need to the quarterback is fine, You're

1602
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 2: gonna someone's gonna emerge out of there might be a couple.

1603
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 2: I actually think receiver either either Deontay Johnson needs to

1604
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 2: revert back to what he was at the start of

1605
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,719
Speaker 2: last year, Cedric Tillman needs to be who he was drafted.

1606
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 2: And even if both of those things happened, I still

1607
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 2: think you might need to add a guy. I think

1608
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 2: you need more weaponry in that room. And if those

1609
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 2: other two things remain ifs, then I think absolutely you

1610
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 2: have got to be aggressive and try to acquire somebody

1611
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 2: else on the outside to be somebody that defenses have

1612
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 2: to contend with.

1613
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, because you want to be in a spot to

1614
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 9: where you don't want to have a situation. As a

1615
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 9: former dB, I could tell you there are teams you

1616
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 9: play against me like, no one who's gonna run by

1617
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 9: me on the squad, and we have to identify that

1618
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 9: guy who's gonna be our over the top guy who's

1619
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 9: gonna be our guy to wear. A defensive coordinator and

1620
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 9: a secondary coach is saying, uh, yeah, we would have

1621
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 9: some current concerns here. We need to establish that because

1622
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 9: if it's all intermediate undernease stuff, yeah, we can nickel

1623
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 9: and dime with that, but at some point, you know

1624
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 9: what's gonna happen. Teams gonna adjust, So we certainly need

1625
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 9: a guy who can one do that very well. We

1626
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 9: got that in Judy and I think you got that

1627
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:45,919
Speaker 9: in Johnson.

1628
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 2: But if you are a.

1629
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 9: Deep threat guy, you have a great opportunity right now

1630
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 9: to present yourself.

1631
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's forty days till this team's back, forty days

1632
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 3: till we start training camp in the season. What's your

1633
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 3: advice If you you could talk to those this football team,

1634
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 3: and you could talk to them yesterday at eleven fifty

1635
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 3: nine before they left it noon.

1636
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 9: Ah, it's a really simple message. You did not do

1637
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 9: all this hard work in the offseason to let it

1638
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 9: go with forty days and forty nights of inactivity, though

1639
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 9: you have a break, find balance, find a way in

1640
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 9: which one you're still working out, you're still in that book,

1641
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 9: and you're still studying being a student of the game,

1642
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 9: and you're taking care of business. But more importantly, you

1643
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 9: are getting your mind, body, and soul ready to play

1644
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 9: football for two hundred and one days in which you're

1645
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:39,480
Speaker 9: gonna give your all. You're gonna sacrifice yourself minimally, physically, spiritually,

1646
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 9: emotionally so that you do not play a part in

1647
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 9: being a three and fourteen football team. And on top

1648
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 9: of that, stay the hell out of trouble and min

1649
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 9: your own damn business.

1650
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 2: All right, I'll get you out of here on This

1651
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 2: is how I started the show today. If you were

1652
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 2: a unencumbered mid to early twenties NFL player and you

1653
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 2: were given forty days off, where would you go? Would

1654
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 2: not own a shirt? Where are you going? Now? You've

1655
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 2: got an extended break? Where are you going? See?

1656
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 9: Now, this is a problem because Girodd suspected from the

1657
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 9: past that gives us alluded to the guy who had

1658
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 9: the shirt off in the club.

1659
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 2: He's probably in.

1660
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 9: Southeast Asia or the mal d somewhere, or South America.

1661
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 9: But knowing what I know, now, let that stuff. When

1662
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,879
Speaker 9: you retire, you can do all that. Dog, there's nothing

1663
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 9: wrong with being in northeast Ohio right now.

1664
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 2: It's the perfect time to be here or.

1665
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 9: Go somewhere, go somewhere high elevation and train there. And

1666
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 9: that's the problem with this forty day deal. A lot

1667
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 9: of guys think, Okay, that's a break.

1668
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 2: There's no break.

1669
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 9: You are still you need to come into training camp.

1670
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 9: And on top of that, okay, I'm about to be

1671
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 9: old man Gerid right here. You don't have double days,

1672
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:06,719
Speaker 9: so there are no excuses. You're not gonna get physically warm,

1673
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 9: worn out. Did you feel like you're gonna die? So

1674
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 9: what you need to do is put yourself as coast

1675
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 9: to Fancy's talked about it. Hearden yourself, tough in yourself,

1676
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 9: don't wear yourself out. But at the same time, still

1677
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 9: push yourself at least one or two times a week

1678
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 9: doing his forty day absence of not being in training camp.

1679
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 2: It's great talking to you, buddy, and we'll hear you

1680
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 2: on the next level, my friend. As always, take care guys,

1681
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:33,160
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1695
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Speaker 2: Enough segments for the next two weeks and not for

1696
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Speaker 2: the clown I thought. I think was trying to get

1697
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 2: involved in that too.

1698
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Speaker 3: These are these are the work, but I wanted to

1699
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Speaker 3: get to a couple. Go ahead, Uh j Mex helping

1700
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 3: me out. Uh got a few from the YouTube stream.

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01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to do those and we'll keep doing

1702
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 2: that as the summer goes along. On the if you're

1703
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 2: on the YouTube stream and have a question, we will

1704
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 2: we will get those answered. The complainer.

1705
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 3: Okay, he's got two questions for a non football mail

1706
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 3: bag question. Would you attend a wedding without bringing your

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Speaker 3: family slash spouse if I had to destination and I Yeah,

1708
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 3: my wife's gone to plenty of weddings in the fall

1709
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 3: without me.

1710
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, my wife went last fall to one without me. No,

1711
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 2: I yeah, I mean, I'm not crazy about it, but

1712
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 2: I will. Yeah.

1713
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 3: It sucks, Yeah, it is what it is. This is

1714
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 3: an interesting one. Rate the AFC North teams from one

1715
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 3: to four on how important winning the Super Bowl is

1716
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 3: this year.

1717
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 2: From a fan perspective, Ravens, Bengals, Steelers us See. I

1718
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 2: think I'd put Pittsburgh one. No, Baltimore's won. From a

1719
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 2: fan perspective's Baltimore, they gotta win. I mean, how how

1720
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 2: long are you gonna have Lamar Jackson's prime? And Derreck

1721
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:40,520
Speaker 2: Henry is still upright in running Downhill. I think Baltimore

1722
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 2: and and Buffalo have the most pressure in the whole league.

1723
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 2: I think all the rest of the league combined doesn't

1724
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 2: have those two teams pressure. They got it.

1725
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 3: I put him to then I'd put the Bengals at

1726
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 3: three because I think the Bengals also know Bengal fans

1727
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 3: know they they don't have a defense like they don't.

1728
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 2: But like you're also I mean, Burrows twenty nine, you know,

1729
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 2: Chasing Higgins, You got those both sign you're gonna probably

1730
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 2: one more year with Hendrickson once they get that resolved. Yeah,

1731
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know that anybody. I don't know

1732
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 2: that Pittsburgh can go from like, hey, nobody over here

1733
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 2: wants Aaron Rodgers to if we don't win the super Bowl,

1734
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 2: it's a disappointment. Like then that's what they were all, Oh,

1735
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 2: we don't want Rogers. Okay, well I'm guessing you're happy

1736
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 2: about it now.

1737
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 3: I would think, yeah, eh, but they're Pittsburgh fans, So yeah,

1738
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 3: there's a sense of intelligence level. There's a certain intelligence

1739
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 3: level that they don't necessarily meet. Be careful, give me

1740
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,959
Speaker 3: those are your people should be. But four, could Jamari

1741
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 3: Thrash be a valid number? Three might have to be.

1742
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 2: Not an ideal world No, but he can play. I

1743
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 2: mean he looked good and he physically looks good. But

1744
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 2: that's what I meant by what I was saying when

1745
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 2: I said, like the ceiling for Deontae and said that

1746
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 2: allows for a three person receiver room that and you're

1747
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 2: gonna need six five at least, you know, to start

1748
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 2: it out. So no, I think it's I think they

1749
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,759
Speaker 2: need those guys to come along and Thrash can Thrash

1750
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 2: can play? Yeah, but I don't think you want to?

1751
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah he did.

1752
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:20,759
Speaker 3: Robert Christie rounds out the YouTube section today. How's Mason

1753
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 3: Graham look? Nobody talks about him? It's true, no one.

1754
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 3: We're trying to get him in the studio next week.

1755
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 2: Actually with you, here's the hard part with uh, with Mace,

1756
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 2: this is a non padded activity everything. So when you

1757
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 2: are a defensive tackle, how much can you do? Yeah?

1758
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 2: How much can you do? He looks great and he's

1759
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 2: gonna be leaders and all this stuff, and but yeah,

1760
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 2: I mean that's part of it is the position. Then

1761
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 2: part of it's the fact that you don't have any

1762
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:51,640
Speaker 2: any pads on it.

1763
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 3: Robert, I can tell you this. The first team defensive

1764
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 3: line that was out there for eleven on Eleven's the

1765
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 3: other day on the final day was your ends were

1766
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 3: Alex Wright and Miles Garrett. Your defensive tackles were Mason

1767
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 3: Graham and MALIEK.

1768
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 2: Collins. It's pretty pretty good.

1769
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 7: Ye.

1770
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 3: And for him to be already in that first group

1771
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 3: in a very deep room, I think you'll take all

1772
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 3: day now in the individual workouts. Looks super fast. Again,

1773
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:24,719
Speaker 3: you don't have pads on, but he's got. He's deceptively quick.

1774
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 3: So there's a little something for you, little something for

1775
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 3: the effort. Dog Bound Cleveland Brown, I want to know

1776
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 3: if you have ever been to the Cleveland Aquarium and

1777
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 3: would you rate it.

1778
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 2: I've not been. I don't even know we had one.

1779
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 3: The aquarium used to be at the zoo, and then

1780
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 3: it used to be out like off of MLK way

1781
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 3: back when I was a little kid, and now it's

1782
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 3: down on the west bank of the Flats. It was

1783
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 3: Ricky's wedding. You could see the shark tank.

1784
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 2: I'll be damn. There you go.

1785
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 3: The closest I've been to the new one. I couldn't

1786
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 3: tell you.

1787
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: Quaint and nice guys. Quaint and quaint and nice from keV.

1788
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 2: There you go. There you go, a big natural history museum. Guy.

1789
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 2: We members there when the boys are really little. That

1790
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 2: place was great.

1791
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, nope, agreed, Uh, all right, so we should get

1792
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 3: into these Bobby questions. Babby, do you think you could

1793
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 3: fight off fifteen cats?

1794
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what we're leading off with. Yep, Yes we could. Yep,

1795
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 2: I could. Next. I don't even know what that means. Easy.

1796
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 3: What do you think of putt putt courses?

1797
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 2: What?

1798
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 3: What do you think of putt putt course? Would you

1799
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 3: would do if you brought your own putter?

1800
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 2: I have nothing. They don't do it. I don't care.

1801
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 2: They're happy about it. Yeah.

1802
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 3: By the way, there was there was a time growing

1803
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 3: up the Memphis Kitty Park, great little park for kids

1804
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 3: under the age of five. Yeah, totally recommend. It's still there.

1805
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 3: Awesome place, big Dipper roller coaster.

1806
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: Like it took the there all the time. Little Yeah,

1807
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,679
Speaker 2: there you go, Memphis Kittie Park. I grew up there.

1808
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 3: There was a there was a putt putt course there.

1809
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 2: Nice.

1810
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 3: Do you know that that putt putt course. At one

1811
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 3: time when ESPN needed filler, would do Putt putt World

1812
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 3: Tours or not world Tour, but like a putt putt

1813
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,759
Speaker 3: competitions competition tour, and they would broadcast from the Memphis

1814
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 3: Kittie Park.

1815
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 2: Oh that's cool. No, I DIDPN back in the day.

1816
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 2: That's great.

1817
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 3: Great putt putt course. Great one down the street here,

1818
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 3: Bagley Road, there's a dairy queen.

1819
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 2: That you get yourself a blizzard and then you play

1820
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 2: a little putt putt. Nobody loses, no one.

1821
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,520
Speaker 3: There's a there's also a driving range knock out everything.

1822
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 2: There you go, yep uh.

1823
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 3: Do you have any ideas how we could solve the

1824
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 3: brain rot of America? Well, we have one minute left

1825
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 3: in this segment, and.

1826
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 2: I got too much on my plate, Bobby, I got

1827
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 2: too much. I'm just trying to keep everybody. What am

1828
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 2: I supposed to do? With the fact that Herb Street

1829
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 2: named his most recent dog bow and spelt it the

1830
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 2: same way that my name is spelled, you should text

1831
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 2: him and find out. Yeah, what are you doing here? Man?

1832
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 2: Come on, Herbie. I guess it's a sign of a thing. Well,

1833
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 2: he can't spell it, Bo, you can spell it the

1834
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 2: other way, Bo, Jackson's the other way.

1835
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1836
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 2: The other Golden Retrievers aren't going to make fun of him.

1837
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 3: No, No, did Bo Michigan bow Sean Beckler?

1838
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 2: Well, he was a buck Eye too. He was a

1839
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 2: Buckeye too. He was on Woody's staff. He's got gold

1840
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 2: pants he had gold pants. Can you imagine that? No,

1841
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 2: put yourself you think about how vitriolic that rivalry is,

1842
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 2: and that of course set it off the ten year war.

1843
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 2: But the idea that that Bo bow Wood he both

1844
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 2: coached at Miami, then Bo's on Woody's staff, and then

1845
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 2: he goes to become the head coach at Miami and

1846
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 2: then gets hired at Michigan. All of a sudden, a

1847
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 2: guy who was one of your closest friends at coaching

1848
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 2: goes to the most hated rival thing you hate more

1849
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 2: than anything in the world. Yeah, and then you guys

1850
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 2: compete for a decade.

1851
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy thirty seconds. What is the most out of

1852
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 3: pocket thing your kids have said recently?

1853
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 2: NBC sent me on Instagram of like of like how

1854
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 2: hard it is being the oldest son and just how

1855
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 2: grueling it all is for him, and which then led

1856
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 2: to just a straight comedy back and forth between him

1857
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 2: and I that I just thought was incredible. I gotta

1858
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 2: find this. He goes, so, good night, love you watch this.

1859
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 2: So it was this thing and then so then I said,

1860
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 2: you do realize I was the firstborn as well, and

1861
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 2: he responded, so you know the hardships of having to

1862
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 2: provide and protect without being fragile. Where did that come from?

1863
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I said, the hard knock life on

1864
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 2: the West side of Hudson. It's so good because real

1865
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 2: my friends don't even know about the Boston Heights life

1866
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:58,599
Speaker 2: that killed me. It's a good job out of him,

1867
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 2: very good job out of him. Good so much we

1868
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 2: good jeb it to you too, Bobby, So much more

1869
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 2: to come. Cleveland Brod Daily fifty ESP and Cleveland.

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01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:13,160
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1873
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 2: All Right, there you go kids, Happy Father's Day. Absolutely

1874
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 2: everybody out there. Yeah, absolutely, enjoy yourselves. Hopefully the rain

1875
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 2: comes in and gets out and you're able to enjoy

1876
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 2: yourselves and and uh and enjoy it should be a

1877
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 2: fun us open to watch. It's carnage over there this

1878
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 2: weekend and the next weekend we're back.

1879
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 3: What happens if they get rained out tomorrow they can

1880
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 3: play Sunday Monday.

1881
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe you know they got they got rid of

1882
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 2: the full eighteen Monday round. Now it's just the two

1883
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 2: holes aggregate. It's a good question. I yeah, I don't know.

1884
01:30:58,160 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 2: I haven't looked at it to see if it's like

1885
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 2: all day rain there or what it is.

1886
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't it's not great. It wasn't great yesterday.

1887
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 3: I don't know what today is right now.

1888
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 2: The projected cut is plus five, so there you go,

1889
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 2: and Helgebrera wanted it plus five in like six, so

1890
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 2: that's RO seven. Next levels coming up next. Have a

1891
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,599
Speaker 2: great weekend, everybody. Cleveland Bruns Daily, eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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