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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Is not holding in a training camp all right.

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Speaker 1: From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It is Around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I am Dan hansis joined by the heroes Greg Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: and Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 3: Humpday, humpday?

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Speaker 2: Is it a hump day?

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Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 2: It's the excitement of football being back. It's it's back.

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Speaker 1: It's back everyone. Actually, I don't want to start. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to start the show with sad news, sure, Mark,

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Speaker 1: but I do have to share some tragic news out

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Speaker 1: of Latrobe, Pennsylvania. Sorry to hear that where I am.

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Speaker 1: I regret to inform everyone listening right now that the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three Pittsburgh Steelers died reporting to camp later

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Speaker 1: than all thirty one other teams in the league. It's

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Speaker 1: over and then this has been data that is backed

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Speaker 1: up year after year. The team that reports last finishes last.

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Speaker 1: Steelers fans, you heard it from me first, but I

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Speaker 1: express no pleasure here. It's over. Come back next year,

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Speaker 1: ready to go earlier than the rest of the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: have the last.

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Speaker 5: I guess what surprises me is because not only during

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Speaker 5: the run of this show, but throughout the course of

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Speaker 5: our lives as football fans. The Steelers have always been

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Speaker 5: a well put together organization. They draft well, they develop

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Speaker 5: players well. They seem to know how to tackle a

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Speaker 5: regular season, especially under Mike Tomlin. There is so much

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Speaker 5: data that supports that the team that shows up last

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Speaker 5: is essentially you're off. Why would they be behind the ball.

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Speaker 5: This is a Detroit Lions trick from the past.

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Speaker 6: It's the first thing they teach you in analytics school

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Speaker 6: day one. Whoever shows up last does worse. And it's

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Speaker 6: a big loss for Mark too, because he famously this offseason.

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Speaker 2: Are going to win games.

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Speaker 1: Ain't that the way? Mark?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 5: What happened to teams side jumped on their bandwagon last

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Speaker 5: year was essentially one death after the next.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers just got ahead of it by falling behind it.

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Speaker 1: I guess I shouldn't notice. I should note on the

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Speaker 1: other end of things, the first team to report way

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Speaker 1: back in July nineteenth the New York Football Jets.

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Speaker 3: The Browns had the option to report the nineteenth.

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Speaker 1: They chose to party a couple more days and report

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Speaker 1: the twenty first.

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Speaker 3: Mark, I know that doesn't.

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Speaker 5: Matter to you, but I think that theme game, I

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Speaker 5: think that plays out correctly with what probably will happen

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Speaker 5: to the Cleveland Browns this season.

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Speaker 6: It is quite a move by the Steelers, like most

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Speaker 6: of the league, the majority of the league showed up

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Speaker 6: to work on Tuesday, started practicing Wednesday, and the Steelers said,

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Speaker 6: you know what, for all the extra days off we

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Speaker 6: have and the lack of tackling and this and that

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Speaker 6: that the CBA has built into exit, we just needed

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Speaker 6: other day.

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Speaker 3: Rest in power kings around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We had a great app with Connor Orr on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Team slogans, we're gonna dig in deeper today with rap

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Speaker 1: Sheet in studio. I was trying to think we had

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Speaker 1: rap Sheet infamously the Peacemaker episode from Santa Monica last summer. Yep,

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Speaker 1: we've had him, I think remotely before.

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Speaker 3: How many times he's been in the studio.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he's ever.

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Speaker 2: Hands Maybe not this studio, I think so.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he's been in this studio. Chris Wesling,

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Speaker 5: we's always been at combines, owners meetings, you know, out

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Speaker 5: outdoor type stuff.

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Speaker 1: So we'll dig in with Ian on a bunch of things.

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Speaker 1: The running back Saquon Barkley coaches on the hot seat.

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Speaker 1: We'll ask him about a maybe a budding internal rivalry

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Speaker 1: with the pell Raiser, who's you know, making moves, whether

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Speaker 1: Ian Watson admitted or not for the crown of top

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Speaker 1: insider at NFL media, it's fair to say, Greg, I

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Speaker 1: know you're on top of those things. Pell Raiser, I

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Speaker 1: know the golf buddies, but you know he wants it.

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Speaker 6: It's been a trend. Ian notices it. The pell raisers profile,

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Speaker 6: especially with the news drop on this show, has been rising.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll ask him about the newsdrop toocause I'm sure Ian, it's.

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Speaker 5: Got to get under your skin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, anything else, Mark, what's going on with

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Speaker 1: your laptop? Yesterday you didn't have any laptop at all.

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Speaker 1: Now for the listeners and check out the YouTube show.

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Speaker 1: You have a it's a silver glitter cover to your

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Speaker 1: MacBook and then what appears to be a black cat

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Speaker 1: or kitten covering up the Apple. We don't have a

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Speaker 1: corporate relationship with Apple the NFL, so that's that's smart

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Speaker 1: from a business standpoint, but kind of an insane laptop

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Speaker 1: for a middle aged man to have.

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Speaker 5: I don't I don't deny that that takes it. I

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Speaker 5: don't deny that, but you know I was in a pinch.

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Speaker 5: I told do that my actual work dished out, laptop

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Speaker 5: has died.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And this led with that after our long run.

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Speaker 5: This profession matters to me, showing up to work and

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Speaker 5: you know, researching for the show and being capable matters

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Speaker 5: to me. So in my downtime between our last episode

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Speaker 5: and this, Uh, I did the requisite work to find

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Speaker 5: new technology.

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Speaker 6: But you chose a bit with that cat sticker on.

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Speaker 6: You could have put any sticker on. But I do

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Speaker 6: know that a cat in any of your IG stories.

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Speaker 6: Followers will know this. People got to check mark out

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Speaker 6: on Instagram that a cat has entered your life, that

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Speaker 6: that I think you have a loving relationship with. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: so it's a big cat.

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Speaker 5: Well it was a bit of a uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: because I spent you know, four plus decades thinking the

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Speaker 5: cats were total junk and I kind of learned that's

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Speaker 5: not true.

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Speaker 1: I just, I mean, I thought we were on the

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Speaker 1: same page as that. Everybody kind of knows. Here's another

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Speaker 1: hot take, and Eric, we need to work out something

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Speaker 1: behind the glass. I had a hot take about the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers yesterday. Let's come down with the cats.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not I don't think I'm riled up.

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Speaker 5: I just think that my opinion has changed. I don't

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Speaker 5: I'm not're not loving creating. Am I running up and

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Speaker 5: down the hallway at work telling people about cats.

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Speaker 2: It's ignorance.

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Speaker 6: It's just playing and simple ignorance, Like like when you

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Speaker 6: kind of rule out or judge any I've tried Creed PCs.

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Speaker 5: Why would you need to judge any animal, Dan or animals.

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Speaker 1: That's what we do. We offer opinions and insights. Tearing

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Speaker 1: around the NFL Cats, Eric, you're a big time Dodgers spent.

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Speaker 1: It occurred to me after the show I buried your

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Speaker 1: favorite baseball team, saying the twenty twenty World Series title

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Speaker 1: was fugazy because of the shortened season, a pandemic and

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Speaker 1: all that. How do you feel about that? Do you think?

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Speaker 1: Because I think, for instance, you got nineteen eighty eight,

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Speaker 1: and I think there should be an asterisk or something

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Speaker 1: next up. Is that?

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Speaker 7: Disagree completely with it? That's why I don't really push back.

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Speaker 7: I think, though that season is odd. My defense on

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Speaker 7: that as always they it was level playing ground across

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Speaker 7: little bubble amastur in the playoffs, and I know for

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Speaker 7: a fact if any other team would have won that

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty year, they would have claimed it just as

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Speaker 7: much as I do.

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Speaker 3: Yes, as a Yankee fan, I probably have to say

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Speaker 3: you're right.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not right.

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Speaker 2: But I am not running around tote in that one.

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Speaker 1: I'm not like, oh, you remember twenty twenty? That was fun?

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Speaker 7: I mean it was fun. Yeah, I don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 7: I watched most of the games. I watched the playoffs, right,

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Speaker 7: but I'm not like, I trust me. My wife bought

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Speaker 7: me a shirt has a shirt big ring on it

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Speaker 7: says World Series Champions twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: You weren't even on the earth when Kirk Gibson did

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Speaker 5: Who's a Theatrical?

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Speaker 1: I was not okay the break lights and yeah, Chavez

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Speaker 1: Ravine went off over the right field bleachers, all the

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Speaker 1: fans that had left thinking Eck was going to close

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Speaker 1: it out until he hung that slider. Greg, But I

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Speaker 1: do was it you that pushed back or you had

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Speaker 1: stated that maybe the Bucks title is a little fugazy nice.

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Speaker 3: You said was I didn't say that was connor O

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Speaker 1: I thought the Bucks I legit because they played the

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Speaker 2: I think they're all legit.

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Speaker 6: They played what they could in many obvious ways. It

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Speaker 6: was harder for those group of men to achieve that

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Speaker 6: So they missed out on that. But I I think

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna have a take? At some point

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Speaker 1: in today's episode, you shot me down on having a

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Speaker 1: cat take. Now, I can't have a COVID take about you.

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Speaker 5: Whatever take you have, But it's a better show if

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Speaker 5: we don't.

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Speaker 1: He keeps dismissing my takes.

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Speaker 8: Well they're absurd, all right, that takes you're dismissing them.

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Speaker 6: We we we all were gone for a few weeks.

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Speaker 6: We like, you know how they're always like, oh you

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Speaker 6: know Kobe, Kobe always worked on one thing every off season.

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Speaker 6: He's like, you got to add something to your game

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Speaker 6: my off season, I was like, disagree as much as

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be my new thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to picture of what the workout is. You're

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Speaker 1: watching old at ns and stuff and be like wrong, wrong,

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Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't he know my lovable Morris from childhood?

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Speaker 1: I didn't. But maybe a nice feeline. Let's do some news.

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Speaker 1: Chargers coming into this one.

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Speaker 4: Just a lot of money on fourth down, but two

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Speaker 4: or three today the original voice of Herbert has time,

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Speaker 4: all kinds of time rowing do is right to the

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Speaker 4: end zone and that passes caught.

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Speaker 7: Touchdown Chargers Herbert to Keenan Allen, the captain with the connection.

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Speaker 1: There. He is the voice of the Chargers and yes,

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Speaker 1: the former voice of God. For the Around the NFL podcast,

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Speaker 1: Matt Muney Smith with the call justin Herbert. Yes, he

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Speaker 1: is different.

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Speaker 3: He was different from the moment he landed with the

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Speaker 3: Chargers and was came into the lineup under strange circumstances

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Speaker 3: when poor Tyrod Taylor got an injection on some sore

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Speaker 3: and that the Chargers are kind of forced to put

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Speaker 3: and became a star. And cut to a few years

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Speaker 3: later and the Chargers get it done with Herbert, keeping

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Speaker 3: him in the long term on a five year, two

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Speaker 3: hundred and sixty two million dollar two hundred and sixty

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Speaker 3: two and a half million dollar contract extension through twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty nine. It's just the latest domino Greg here with

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Speaker 3: these quarterbacks. It was Lamar Jackson before him, and it

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Speaker 3: will be Joe Burrow most likely after him, who will

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Speaker 3: make just a little bit more money than Herbert did.

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Speaker 3: It's it's kind of funny, Greg in this era where

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Speaker 1: What was that? Twenty seven to nothing was their last

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Speaker 3: Let's see them make a run in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Le's see him get to the divisional round or even

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Speaker 5: The only thing I'd say tho is last year. Herbert,

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Speaker 3: For the Chargers, we.

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Speaker 5: Right, was there a season because we always talk about

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Speaker 6: I know it didn't happen for Breeze. The only ended

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Speaker 2: I think Herbert's going to have even more than.

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Speaker 2: To your point, Dan that you're not making super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: Come yeah. To be clear, I'm not putting the heat

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Speaker 1: Ellen Moore is good that offense in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Mark there you go.

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Speaker 2: I think one of our draft columnists at the website.

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Speaker 1: One last point before we move on all this, Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: We don't have to have discourse about how bad Patrick Mahomes'

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Speaker 1: He's happy, he's a champion. I've just watched on on

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Speaker 2: He's doing beautiful.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna rework the contract in time, and it's everything's

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Speaker 1: Do you disagree with that take as well? No, I

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Speaker 6: Fortunately, I think he yeah, he can do what he wants.

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Speaker 6: He's doing fine. It's mildly annoying, like if you're Patrick

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Speaker 3: That is, they are very different sports, like.

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Speaker 6: Here we go, if you're like a sixth man who

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Speaker 1: Why it's wrong with the baseball contracts compared I don't

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Speaker 3: You wanted to stay in the owner's pocket. No, that's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a couple of months ago, I could

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Speaker 5: have seen a reality where like someone like Sam Darnold

441
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Speaker 5: is starting the first or second game of the season

442
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Speaker 5: if perty weren't ready, and if Trey Lance, I think,

443
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Speaker 5: is still someone that If you're the Niners, one of

444
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Speaker 5: the best things that could happen is you still play

445
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Speaker 5: Trey Lance a bunch in the preseason. He looks great.

446
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Speaker 5: Maybe you trade him, but you also I think behind

447
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Speaker 5: door number two is like I'm like pro brock Purty

448
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Speaker 5: as much as anyone around, but like we still need

449
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Speaker 5: to learn and discover if he is that guy we

450
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Speaker 5: saw from that incredible run at the end of last year,

451
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Speaker 5: which is so improbable, Like is he that player or

452
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Speaker 5: like with an offseason of players diagnosing more of what

453
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Speaker 5: Shanahan does, getting to know brock perty more as an

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Speaker 5: opponent on tape, like maybe that he brings them back

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Speaker 5: down to life. And then you have Trey Lance and

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Speaker 5: it's like it still seems to me like a very

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Speaker 5: muddled situation with a lot of questions.

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Speaker 6: But we did get an answer, and we say it

459
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Speaker 6: throughout the offseason like, Okay, when they show up for camp,

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Speaker 6: you learn a lot. Some of these guys they say

461
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Speaker 6: you're gonna be back, they're not back for a long time.

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Speaker 6: Some of them, like Purdy, are surprisingly ready to go.

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Speaker 2: We didn't know.

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Speaker 6: I think they were tamping down expectations because they didn't

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Speaker 6: want they did they didn't know, and they didn't want

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Speaker 6: to set anything unrealistic. But they say no restrictions. That's

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Speaker 6: that's sort of not true because he's only practice two

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Speaker 6: out of every three days. So for instance, today's the

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Speaker 6: first day and he's.

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Speaker 2: Out, so that's restrictive.

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Speaker 6: So but he is fully practicing in the other days.

472
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Speaker 6: And the big headline to me out of this was

473
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Speaker 6: they made it clear he's taking the number one reps.

474
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Speaker 6: They're not messing around with like, oh, we'll do a

475
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Speaker 6: little Lance, We'll do a little Donald. They're like, no,

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Speaker 6: Brock Purty is taking our number one reps on the

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Speaker 6: days that he's playing. Now, Lance and Darnald works out

478
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Speaker 6: with with Purty out every third day for for a

479
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Speaker 6: couple of weeks. We'll get their chances too. And Lance

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Speaker 6: seems to be ahead of Donald. But that's a big

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Speaker 6: statement Dan that it's like it's pretty's job. They're not

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Speaker 6: really messing around.

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Speaker 2: With a bat.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and that's the right way to play it. He's

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Speaker 3: earned this opportunity.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I'll say before we hand out lollipops,

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Speaker 1: let's check that back in a couple of weeks. Sure

488
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Speaker 1: he's throwing the ball a lot, and how his elbow

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Speaker 1: is reacting to that. He's not obviously not gonna be

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Speaker 1: taking hits or anything, but we got to see if

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Speaker 1: that elbow can play the guitar that.

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Speaker 5: Hold on the lollipop.

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Speaker 3: If you're a rock party, we're just not gonnass him

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Speaker 3: out yet.

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Speaker 1: Let's pass out a lollipop though. To Andrew Thomas, the

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Speaker 1: left tackle the New York Giants, who signed a five year,

497
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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventeen point five million dollar contract extension

498
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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter reported the deal includes sixty seven million fully guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: Thomas was one of those guys in I want to

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Speaker 1: say it was the twenty twenty one, twenty twenty draft

501
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Speaker 1: and there's a bunch of tackles available. The Giants were

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Speaker 1: in that mix in the first like ten to fifteen picks,

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Speaker 1: and they hit on the right guy. Last year, PFF

504
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Speaker 1: graded Thomas as the league's sixth best pass blocking offensive

505
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Speaker 1: lineman more a little more middle of the road Gregi

506
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Speaker 1: as a run blocker according to their analytics, but the

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Speaker 1: Giants like him a lot and now he will be

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Speaker 1: protecting Daniel Jones in the long term.

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Speaker 2: Great reminder for fans.

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Speaker 6: Let's say of Evan Neil, who's also on the Giants

511
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Speaker 6: draft in the top ten or I kim A Kanwu

512
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Speaker 6: last year for the Panthers, like it takes a while

513
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Speaker 6: for offensive lineman, Andrew Thomas was full ayd like in.

514
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Speaker 2: The Radio New York media.

515
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Speaker 6: For being a potential bust after a pretty rough rookie year,

516
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Speaker 6: and then he's just been fantastic the last two and

517
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Speaker 6: it's a reminder.

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Speaker 2: Look who they've given them.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they gave a lot of money to Dexter

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Speaker 6: Lareen's a lot of money to Daniel Jones, a lot

521
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Speaker 6: of money to Andrew Thomas, Like Gettleman is really having

522
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Speaker 6: a renaissances like where's it does?

523
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Speaker 3: Show you spe into But he got paid right, The.

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Speaker 6: Positional value is not helping Saquon because everyone else is

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Speaker 6: getting paid.

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Speaker 2: But Gettleman had some good picks.

527
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Speaker 1: A lot of money, a lot of money, and Barkley

528
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Speaker 1: did get some vouchers for like free energy shakes in

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Speaker 1: the team commissary mixed up for it right, well, not

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Speaker 1: free but subsidized. He's paying only like three bucks for

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Speaker 1: what should be like a six dollars a steal shake.

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Speaker 5: That's a steal inside that building.

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Speaker 6: You got to remember to cut the bring the coupon though,

534
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Speaker 6: because sometimes you get to the front you're like, oh,

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Speaker 6: I got the coupon, but it's back at home.

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Speaker 1: They're like, and I should mention they only supply him

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Speaker 1: with the blender and the ingredients has to make his own.

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Speaker 5: I still think it's a fantastic deal for him on

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Speaker 5: that front.

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Speaker 1: On the shakes front, the Bears SEV signed tight End

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Speaker 1: Cole Comet to a four year, fifty dollars contract extension

542
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Speaker 1: according to Schefter, thirty two point eight million guaranteed. Whoo,

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Speaker 1: that's a lot of money for co comet. But apparently

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Speaker 1: they see him mark as a Justin Fields field stretcher

545
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Speaker 1: or first down getter or red.

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Speaker 5: Zone yeah, I mean Ryan Poles. Back in January, they

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Speaker 5: kind of quized him like, you're you just had a

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Speaker 5: really rough season win loss wise, like who are your

549
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Speaker 5: like blue chip players on this team, and you'd like

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Speaker 5: the probably wouldn't think there's too many of them. But

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Speaker 5: he mentioned him like.

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Speaker 3: Before the question was even out of come.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he came running tip, he came running to the

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Speaker 5: one with that with that answer. So yeah, maybe part

555
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Speaker 5: of it is just like they like him a little

556
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Speaker 5: bit better than the average person. But I think he's

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Speaker 5: an ascendant guy like he he seems to fit really

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Speaker 5: well with Justinetterfield's well, you're right, they have to get

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Speaker 5: it right. But he also there's there's some I don't know,

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Speaker 5: sometimes teams do things that are like a little bit

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Speaker 5: more than just the the on field performance. Because he

562
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Speaker 5: grew up he's a grew up a Bears fan. His

563
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Speaker 5: dad was with the team at some point in the nineties.

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Speaker 5: I mean there's just a lot going on where.

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Speaker 2: I think the famous Mark prep work.

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Speaker 5: Trying to become something, and like, I think he kind

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Speaker 5: of just fits. And you know, I can think of

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Speaker 5: like when the Browns paid Dave in the joke who

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Speaker 5: I was like, I really like Dave and n Joku

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Speaker 5: half the time, and then he's killing you with a

571
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Speaker 5: killer drop in the fourth quarter. He looks the part,

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Speaker 5: and I know you like him a little more than

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Speaker 5: I don't think. I think he's a Would you agree

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Speaker 5: that he's a little hot and cold?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, Comets. I like Comet better than enigmatic.

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Speaker 1: Did you is it enigmatic that I say?

577
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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that you're calling him enigmatic?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what does that mean?

579
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Speaker 5: Mysterious? Unknowable?

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Speaker 2: So I had it, yeah, sure, a little up and down.

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Speaker 5: I was taking all making sure. I like, uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm an actual agreeing with you.

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Speaker 1: He's a big he's a playmaker that has mental lapses occasionally,

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Speaker 1: but I believe with better quarterback play he could ascend

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Speaker 1: to the next tier of tight ends.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, Greg, this is a I think Ryan Poles

587
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Speaker 6: the GM also spending the cap space they have now

588
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Speaker 6: in a way that they can save it for next

589
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Speaker 6: year because they everyone got all excited about how much

590
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Speaker 6: cap space the Bears had going into the offseason. They

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Speaker 6: did what they wanted to, but they still almost had

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Speaker 6: too much. I think there is such a thing as

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Speaker 6: too much. They still had a ton just sitting there,

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Speaker 6: and now you spend it on comment. Now, maybe it's

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Speaker 6: a year early. I think it's a good value to you.

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Speaker 6: I like Comet. I think he'll be more consistent than Nijoko.

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Speaker 6: He's he only turned twenty four this offseason, so he

598
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Speaker 6: was a very young rookie. That's another position where it

599
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 6: takes a little bit to get going. A nice little player.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Titus Howard with the Texans at Chenna and Willsue with

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks also get new deals, so they are happy

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Speaker 1: and healthy in the bank account. And Greg and I'll

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Speaker 1: turn it over to you for a little bit of

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Speaker 1: an injury minute from training camps around the league. Up

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Speaker 1: for the Steelers because they.

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Speaker 6: Just started all right back on the practice field. No

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Speaker 6: pop list for these gentlemen. Michael Thomas, how about that

609
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 6: he's back again, Jack Leonard, Jack Leonard, this was a

610
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Speaker 6: little bit of a surprise for me. You're gonna keep

611
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Speaker 6: an eye on that one. Davonte Williams. We don't know

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Speaker 6: if he's fully back, but he's not on the puff.

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Speaker 1: That surprise.

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Speaker 2: That's a good sign.

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Speaker 1: His name was jacked up.

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Speaker 6: That's big Kyle Pitts who's had this strange injury. I'm

617
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Speaker 6: keeping an eye on it, but he's back. And then

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Speaker 6: John Mechi, the Texans draft pick from a year ago

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Speaker 6: who overcame the Akemia. So cheers to John Metchi because

620
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Speaker 6: he was He was also the sideline in the off

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Speaker 6: season just with an injury.

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Speaker 2: The people on the.

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Speaker 6: Pup list Dan Jonathan Taylor, this one looked like he

624
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Speaker 6: had a procedure done this offseason. Is it maybe he's

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Speaker 6: still overcoming that. I need to check that. I don't

626
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Speaker 6: like that the minutes Breest Hall on the pup list,

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Speaker 6: Von Miller, No surprise there. And then Tron Armstead, uh

628
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Speaker 6: the left tackle always seems to be hurt for the Dolphs.

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Speaker 6: Had a procedure that no one knew about in the off.

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Speaker 5: Sea and he hurt himself working out. Try to stay

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Speaker 5: healthy there, mister orm.

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Speaker 6: Said Jonathan Taylor. There's something popping there. He's He's made

633
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Speaker 6: it clear he's not. He's maybe the most vocal in

634
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Speaker 6: terms of unhappy uh running backs out there.

635
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Speaker 5: Because he would be up for a new he wants

636
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Speaker 5: a new contract, right. This is not a great kind

637
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 5: of a mess entrede there.

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Speaker 1: So he doesn't have a lot of leverage in that department.

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Speaker 5: I don't like the von Miller thing either.

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00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 6: Yes, there was, Yeah, the ankle surgery was earlier this offseason.

641
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 6: Recurring issues. They don't believe it's going to be a

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Speaker 6: long stay. But he doesn't seem happy.

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Speaker 1: Good injury minute. That's what's happening in the news. Promo

644
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Speaker 1: time football is back. Let's have some bad music for this.

645
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Speaker 2: Let's come on, we're back together. Let's getting the spirit.

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Speaker 1: Football is back. Celebrate by No, this isn't.

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Speaker 5: This is odd, strange mood?

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Speaker 1: Is this same one?

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Speaker 2: Turn that up?

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Speaker 1: Turn this up? My? This is it? This is a

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Speaker 1: little too much for this. Well, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: the copy is you really have to earn that?

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Speaker 3: Give me one more kind of like that though, Yes.

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Speaker 1: Oh commence promo. Football is back. So I'm right by

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Speaker 1: watching as teams across the league take the field for

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Speaker 1: training camp. Back Together Weekend presented by none other than YouTube,

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Speaker 1: with two full days of practices, player interviews, miked up moments,

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Speaker 1: out this. NFL Plus. By the way, we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: on NFL Plus this year. We got we got some meetings.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about them today.

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Speaker 5: It's the new thing. It's very essential. What meetings, Well, no,

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Speaker 5: definitely not those, but like the NFL Plus meetings, I

665
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Speaker 5: could take your leave.

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Speaker 1: I am very excited about some ideas we have for

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Speaker 1: NFL Plus this year. You guys on the same page. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to share it with you, the audience.

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Speaker 1: And anyway, NFL Network and NFL Plus have you covered

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Speaker 1: dot com slash back Together weekend for ways to watch,

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Speaker 1: and we will be.

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Speaker 3: Right back after this with the rap.

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Speaker 1: Sheete James, all right, we're back. A little listener note

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Speaker 1: before we throw it to rap sheet. This was recorded

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours ago with Ian and it just so

678
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: happened Greggie while we're talking to him, he's increasingly distracted

679
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: on his phone, and he does like a walkout right

680
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Speaker 1: after we're finished. And it turns out, and you would

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Speaker 1: clarified this with a follow up.

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Speaker 6: Text, Yes, as the ATM Media Insiders apprentice, I reached

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Speaker 6: out to Ian and yes, he was working on the

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Speaker 6: Justin Herbert contract, which he broke on Tuesday. And you

685
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Speaker 6: could have figured out that we taped it ahead of

686
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Speaker 6: time because I stumbled over that many times. Yeah, in

687
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Speaker 6: this interview. But yes, that was why he was kind

688
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Speaker 6: of giving us not his full attention at some points

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Speaker 6: in the interview.

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Speaker 2: But he handled it like it was.

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Speaker 1: A little showy, the walk out and things of that nature.

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Speaker 1: But it turns out I have to and you'll hear

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Speaker 1: me kind of bury him a little bit. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: critiqued him, but in this case, yes, he there was

695
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Speaker 1: a reason why he was doing that. And give him

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Speaker 1: a little pop dack.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we'll listen to it. I believe

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Speaker 5: you went so far as to suggest that he was

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Speaker 5: just putting on an act just to walk out of

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Speaker 5: the room, and actually he's working incredibly hard.

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Speaker 2: Big story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why they call him the rap sheet, the

703
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Speaker 1: insider and a little shot across the bow of the

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Speaker 1: pell raiser while we're here. All right, let's throw it

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Speaker 1: to that conversation. Welcome back to joining us now is

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Speaker 1: a man for damn? Over a decade now has been.

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Speaker 9: What is this music?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Concert? There? It is what are

709
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: you called the roar shack? That's a type of test. Yeah,

710
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Speaker 1: however you hear it. It's very interesting see how different

711
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: people here. Like Kyle Brant was on the program, I

712
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: think during the pandemic and he said it sounded like

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Speaker 1: an episode of Silk Stockings that he might have been

714
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Speaker 1: watching in his teen years. Everyone seems to have different

715
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Speaker 1: interpretations of it. You say, Phil Collins, it seems a

716
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Speaker 1: little sultry for Genesis, but maybe Colin solo.

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Speaker 9: I assume I'm waiting on the drums to come in.

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Speaker 1: You know. This is the guy driving back to his

719
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Speaker 1: apartment after he learned that his partner had been shot

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Speaker 1: and his girlfriend or wife.

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Speaker 3: Manum, yeah, you're too close to the case.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, Ian Rappaport, everybody rap sheet you know we

723
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Speaker 1: have this is let's start. There's start on a positive uhgative.

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Speaker 1: Usually something comes up negative, but like one of the

725
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Speaker 1: big faux paus of our show is if we have

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Speaker 1: a guest and they're like on their phone during an interviewer,

727
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Speaker 1: but rap sheet, it's kind of his brand.

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Speaker 3: So I think maybe you get the past.

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Speaker 1: So if you have to stay on top of things

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Speaker 1: as you do, uh, as you did today in fact

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Speaker 1: or earlier or yesterday with Saquon Barkley, yesterday we got

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Speaker 1: we figured that and then I correct myself, but then

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Speaker 1: you brought more attention to it. Just an issue, Eli,

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Speaker 1: Make make this make sense, please, because it's very Saquon

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Speaker 1: Barkley is tagged. Yeah, he signs. Is it technically the

736
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Speaker 1: frame I chose to I do? It doesn't matter? Why

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Speaker 1: would he choose the small amount of incentives and then

738
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Speaker 1: set himself up to be attacked again next year? Make

739
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Speaker 1: it makes sense?

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Speaker 3: Because you broke the story about Barkley's deal with the Giants.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, at yesterday, even though it's actually today, but yesterday,

742
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 9: I was found out at midnight that this deal was happening.

743
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Speaker 9: There's some things that needed to happen, and so I

744
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Speaker 9: knew that it could probably break around seven Eastern time.

745
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Speaker 9: And I'm on the West coast like you guys, So

746
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Speaker 9: I was up at three point thirty am holding my

747
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Speaker 9: phone like this, waiting to hit the button, which you know,

748
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 9: what if something goes wrong? What if, like, come on, bro,

749
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Speaker 9: what if a physical doesn't go well? Which I knew

750
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Speaker 9: it was, but what if there's contract language that isn't good?

751
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Speaker 9: Like it just I'm like, I better be up for this.

752
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Speaker 9: Or what if someone else, you know, had it forty

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Speaker 9: five minutes before and I was sleeping and then you're.

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Speaker 3: Like, it's right there?

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Speaker 1: Are you up?

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Speaker 5: That was Steene information on on X and threads at

757
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Speaker 5: this point duplicate type.

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Speaker 9: Of when I remember I put it on threads, Yes,

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Speaker 9: I threads is yeah, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting being an insider. Before we get

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Speaker 1: into some more barkley stuff, let's just a quick aside here,

762
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Speaker 1: Like it seems like a terrible job, like a great job,

763
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Speaker 1: and like the visibility and you make a tremendous amount

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Speaker 1: of money. Your salary is outrageous.

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Speaker 9: Definitely not okay, but there's I don't do it for

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Speaker 9: the salary, then.

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Speaker 1: I get it. There's such a I did ask him

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Speaker 1: before we started whether he's graduated to having a private

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Speaker 1: car taking him from locations during his visit so in California.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't joking. I feel like you might be able

771
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Speaker 1: to get that into a contract negotiation. That's a conversation

772
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Speaker 1: for you in charge of my own stuff. Yeah, but

773
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Speaker 1: my point is, it feels like it's such a thin

774
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Speaker 1: line of what you can end up getting buried for

775
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: as an insider, and people are always looking for something.

776
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Speaker 1: I think you had a tweet last month about a

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Speaker 1: college coach that had an unfortunate ending to his career,

778
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Speaker 1: and then I saw you popping up at websites.

779
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Speaker 3: That people are getting on. I saw that, I read

780
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Speaker 3: your tweet.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, this was worth you know, I just feel

782
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Speaker 1: like something I say.

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Speaker 9: It was about Pat Fitzgerald, and I said a dramatic,

784
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Speaker 9: a dramatic conclusion or something like that. And originally I

785
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 9: had a dramatic and correct conclusion, right, But I don't

786
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Speaker 9: really love to like get out there and put my

787
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Speaker 9: opinion on things because honestly, like I do not know.

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Speaker 9: So I said dramatic, which is something that is sudden,

789
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Speaker 9: something that comes out of nowhere and is sudden, and

790
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Speaker 9: that a coach who had been there eighteen years getting

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Speaker 9: fired was pretty dramatic, and people took it in a

792
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Speaker 9: way that.

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Speaker 3: I have a theory.

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Speaker 9: It's just, you know, there was card for a lot

795
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Speaker 9: of parsoning language and like, but here's the thing, I

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Speaker 9: I don't think like you say, like it's easy to

797
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 9: get yourself in trouble. I don't. I don't think it is,

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Speaker 9: because everything that I would say in an interview, whether

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Speaker 9: it's here or on radio, or on a show or

800
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Speaker 9: on our shows or literally anything, it's all intentional. Like

801
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Speaker 9: I don't like trip and fall and say something offensive,

802
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 9: you know what I mean? So like, it's not like

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Speaker 9: I have to like, like, I don't really give my

804
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Speaker 9: opinion on a lot of things. But I've been not

805
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Speaker 9: giving my opinion on things for twelve years. It's not

806
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 9: very difficult now. So like whatever I would tweet, I

807
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 9: would say in a show or say to you, like

808
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Speaker 9: I just it's not very hard to not.

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Speaker 6: You don't fly off the handle much sometimes, but you

810
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Speaker 6: want to, I think out loud.

811
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Speaker 2: So sometimes people get upset. You get upset.

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Speaker 9: Sometimes I do get upset, and but I don't fly

813
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Speaker 9: off the handle ever.

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Speaker 5: Do you feel like you still have as much I'm

815
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Speaker 5: sure when you're a young journalist and you break news

816
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Speaker 5: there's that rush of excitement, the thrill like do you

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Speaker 5: do you do? You feel like the thrill is still

818
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Speaker 5: get inside of your.

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Speaker 9: That was fun. That was fun yesterday morning because obviously

820
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Speaker 9: we're not taping this a day early.

821
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Speaker 1: It's no time it was taped.

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Speaker 9: That was like, so there's a lot of stress and

823
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Speaker 9: like you know, if someone calls and say, hey, I

824
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 9: got this contract extension, like put it out now, that's

825
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 9: fun and exciting, and then like you do it and

826
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Speaker 9: it's like woo and then it's over. The Barky one

827
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Speaker 9: was stressful because that had to sit for eight hours,

828
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Speaker 9: so like that was not a very fun night of

829
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Speaker 9: sleep last night, honestly. But then you hit send and

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Speaker 9: then you watch everyone's like reaction come in and you knew,

831
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Speaker 9: like I knew that nobody knew this was happening. So

832
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Speaker 9: to watch the reaction was like and it was positive.

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Speaker 9: It's all positive. So I do enjoy that. I take

834
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Speaker 9: the losses less bad than I used to, hmmm, because

835
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Speaker 9: there's always something else, like if I get burned on something,

836
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 9: or someone was supposed to give me something to give

837
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Speaker 9: it someone else, or I thought I had something and

838
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Speaker 9: it ended up getting out a different way. Like the

839
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Speaker 9: DeAndre Hopkins scoop. I felt like I had a pretty

840
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 9: good handle on that one. I've done a lot of

841
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 9: DeAndre Hopkins stuff, and I did not break it. I

842
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 9: had the money first, but I didn't have the team.

843
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Speaker 9: Doug kead.

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Speaker 1: Head heads out there were joyce for the.

845
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Speaker 9: Former Patriots rider, but yeah I was. I was annoyed.

846
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Speaker 9: But it's like, all right, like get the money, get

847
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 9: the next It's it's such a long game that I

848
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Speaker 9: handle the losses a little bit better.

849
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Speaker 6: But the opposite of Bill Parcells who said as he

850
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Speaker 6: got older, he no longer had the mental defenses to

851
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Speaker 6: deal with losing, and my in my little experience just

852
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Speaker 6: as a sports fan, I feel like I can identify

853
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Speaker 6: with that.

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Speaker 2: I think it gets harder as you get older to

855
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Speaker 2: deal with the losing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, coming from a Patriots fan, but yeah and other sports,

857
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Speaker 5: other sports, Yeah, Celtics ten losing.

858
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Speaker 2: Still I'm in a post Patriots world.

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Speaker 9: Losing still sucks. Like, don't get me wrong, but there's

860
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Speaker 9: just so much that it's like like I work as

861
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Speaker 9: hard as I possibly count on one thing, but then

862
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Speaker 9: when it's over, it's always like I mean, you see

863
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Speaker 9: on TV, like let's say a big contract happen, and

864
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 9: well then it's like, okay, you talk about your contract

865
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 9: for twenty seconds and it's like, what's the next. It's

866
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 9: always sort of like onto the next, so like mentality wise,

867
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 9: like that actually helps cause you move on so quickly.

868
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Speaker 1: It's funny because that whole insider game. Also there's there's rivals,

869
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: and you know you have a rival at ESPN. I

870
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: believe that you guys been duking it out for years. Yep,

871
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: Doug ked the cad heads out there, you know. But

872
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Speaker 1: it hurts, I would say, I would guess it hurts

873
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: less to get beat by the cad Heads than by

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Speaker 1: a shafter. Now, we have someone in in the building

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Speaker 1: of the NFL media universe named Tom pel Sero, your

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Speaker 1: golf buddies with you. You seem to be close friends

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Speaker 1: with Pali Saro. He has his own drop on this show.

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Speaker 1: He's the pell raiser. Now, does it bring you a

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Speaker 1: level of frustration or anger that we don't have an

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Speaker 1: ean drop when you are delivering news when we're going

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Speaker 1: through it in our rundown that you used to did we.

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Speaker 5: Well, well, I would only say, and this is this

883
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Speaker 5: is not personal at all but the Pellissaro, the pell

884
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Speaker 5: Raiser drop has become immense taken off.

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Speaker 1: We don't know Tom, it seems like he would like it.

886
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Speaker 1: Maybe let him know. I haven't.

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Speaker 9: I haven't sensed the momentum that you guys have. In fact,

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Speaker 9: I've actually didn't know it existed until right now, momentum

889
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Speaker 9: for Tom.

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Speaker 6: Because it seems like Tom's got some momentum and he does.

891
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Speaker 6: That's tricky having a rivalry within the building. You've dealt

892
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Speaker 6: with that before and you proved victorious.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but whenever you're gonna kill next Ian, well, no,

894
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Speaker 9: whenever Tom gets something, he deserves it. And so like

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Speaker 9: he and I were bang bang on the Trevon Diggs

896
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Speaker 9: extension yesterday again because this is not right hammered in

897
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Speaker 9: and that nail in yep. And so when he gets it,

898
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Speaker 9: he deserves it. So like you know, there's been definitely

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Speaker 9: things that I thought I was going to break that

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Speaker 9: he breaks. But it's always better than the alternative mm hmm.

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Speaker 9: And so like it's it's all I'm just saying, it's

902
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Speaker 9: always better than the alternative any single way, the alternative

903
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Speaker 9: plus Tom's Tom deserves it.

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Speaker 1: Great, Oh you better golfer than him, Yeah, you guys

905
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Speaker 1: golf a lot.

906
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Speaker 2: Why are a lot of golf?

907
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Speaker 9: And we put when we played, I shot eighty six.

908
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Speaker 9: He did not mark.

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Speaker 1: What's your take on golfing for a middle aged men?

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Speaker 5: I see the attraction. I personally don't have seven or

911
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 5: eight hours to spend time doing it.

912
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Speaker 3: What's your thing?

913
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Speaker 5: My thing?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, everyone has to have a thing. What's your thing?

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Speaker 5: A lot of it can't be mentioned, but uh, it's

916
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Speaker 5: not golf can't be mentioned.

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Speaker 9: Well, this audience isn't Is this audience not numb to

918
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Speaker 9: your antics by now? How much long have you had?

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Speaker 9: Guys had this whatever?

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Speaker 1: That?

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Speaker 3: We don't ask him what he does in his own podcast.

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Speaker 5: I think they're largely they could surmise employ.

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Speaker 9: I had a friend in college, a sort of a friend,

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Speaker 9: an acquaintance in college, who was riding downtown in the

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Speaker 9: city with another one of my buddies, and they happened

926
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Speaker 9: to be on the same subway and one guy gets

927
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Speaker 9: off and he looks at the other guy and he goes,

928
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Speaker 9: don't follow me.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of what you're like.

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Speaker 6: That that's very much a Sessler move, except you just

931
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Speaker 6: wouldn't say anything, just would leave. Wait, why do you

932
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Speaker 6: think that's Sequin Barkley going on this zoom call with

933
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Speaker 6: the running back somehow like took leverage away because apparently,

934
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Speaker 6: I don't know if Floria was on it or people

935
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Speaker 6: just heard what was in it. Everyone had the idea

936
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Speaker 6: on the zoom call that he was going to camp. Anyways,

937
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Speaker 6: why why even I guess you're you could make an

938
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Speaker 6: extra nine hundred thousand dollars out of this deal, but

939
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Speaker 6: why do it at all? Like why why not hold

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Speaker 6: out for for more? Why not why not at least

941
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Speaker 6: get a promise not to tag?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 9: John Marra does not do That is the reason. And

944
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Speaker 9: so like there are things in negotiating where you say,

945
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Speaker 9: like I can get this or I can get that.

946
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Speaker 9: Some things are a non starter, right. It's like, you know,

947
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Speaker 9: like a fully guaranteed deal for quarterbacks for everyone not

948
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Speaker 9: named Deshaun Watson was a non starter.

949
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Speaker 6: And I think all the quarterbacks or Kirk Cousins, the greats,

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Speaker 6: you know, the greats of the game.

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Speaker 1: He was great.

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Speaker 9: He was great in that Netflix show. I assume you

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Speaker 9: guys have watched. We will be talking about it on

954
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Speaker 9: Thursday's program taped on Wednesday. It's all now taped on Thursday,

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Speaker 9: maybe for a Friday release. Got it?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 9: But like so, so anyway, why do you do the deal?

958
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Speaker 9: He was probably gonna come in a couple weeks into camp. Okay,

959
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 9: history has not been kind to the players who come

960
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Speaker 9: in late to camp. A lot of times they get injured.

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Speaker 9: I think when Bosa did one of his holdouts, he

962
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Speaker 9: ended up with a hamstring injury. He didn't play for four weeks. Like,

963
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Speaker 9: being in shape and getting ready to go kill it

964
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Speaker 9: this season is important. I think when all your friends

965
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Speaker 9: are at training camp and you're not, I think that sucks.

966
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Speaker 9: And like, look, either his options were hold out and

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Speaker 9: signed the tag or not hold out and get extra

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Speaker 9: money and get a little upfront, like absolutely long term deal.

969
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Speaker 9: I thought this was a totally fine solution, and I

970
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Speaker 9: think we're probably going to see more of it now

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Speaker 9: that some other players are gonna be Like, I don't

972
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Speaker 9: know when Josh Jacobs is going to come in, but

973
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Speaker 9: like this structure would probably make sense to him too,

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Speaker 9: if the Raiders were willing to do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you get the sense because the way it's

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Speaker 1: reported he was seen boarding a plane he's leaving town.

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Speaker 1: Is that something where it could be you know, a

978
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Speaker 1: little bit more heat to it than your typical holdout situation.

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Speaker 9: I got the sense like they didn't do a new contract, obviously,

980
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Speaker 9: so that's the number one goal. But I got the

981
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Speaker 9: sense it was okay, like didn't agree on where he

982
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Speaker 9: should be, but I didn't feel like anybody was like

983
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Speaker 9: throwing things against the wall and hating each other. Was

984
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 9: more like we disagree on value, okay, Like let's try

985
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 9: to move forward.

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Speaker 6: There was an interesting report in The Athletic though by

987
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Speaker 6: a former I guess of the sho Vic tayf which

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Speaker 6: I know who was kind of like, why all the

989
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Speaker 6: spin after the Josh Jacobs deal that it was so close,

990
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Speaker 6: essentially saying without saying that McDaniels is maybe trying to

991
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Speaker 6: send a message to Mark Davis that we gave it

992
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Speaker 6: a good shot, this is the guy you really like,

993
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Speaker 6: or maybe send me a message to the fans that hey,

994
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Speaker 6: we got close, and was kind of saying without saying

995
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Speaker 6: I'm putting words in the mouth here, but that that

996
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Speaker 6: it's a little bit more of some old McDaniels off

997
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Speaker 6: the field chakanery, which if you kind of look at it,

998
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Speaker 6: it's been piling up. It's like they signed Derek Carr,

999
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Speaker 6: he's gone. Renfro's on the trade block. Maybe maybe not

1000
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 6: Darren Waller. You sign him and he's gone.

1001
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: It's it.

1002
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Speaker 6: DeVante Adams is grumbling a little. There is some like

1003
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Speaker 6: McDaniel's denvery vibes there.

1004
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 9: I see. I don't. I don't get the vibes. I

1005
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Speaker 9: understand what you're saying, because like, obviously, at some point

1006
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Speaker 9: you need to win, and if they don't win this year,

1007
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Speaker 9: then they'll they'll be obviously questions, just like there is

1008
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Speaker 9: with anyone who doesn't win. I think they were pretty

1009
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 9: close and in fact, like my opinion means nothing, but

1010
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Speaker 9: like I'm talking to a lot of people as these

1011
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 9: deals happen, and like there were definitely moments on that

1012
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Speaker 9: Monday where I thought a deal was gonna happen, So

1013
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Speaker 9: like I didn't think it was spin. I really thought,

1014
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 9: like as I'm preparing for, like you know, we're about

1015
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 9: to do a show, and we're going to do a

1016
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Speaker 9: show at four o'clock Eastern, one o'clock Pacific Monday, franchise

1017
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Speaker 9: tight Day got it, and like the producers like, what's

1018
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 9: your topics? I'm telling them, like I think there's a

1019
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 9: real chance Josh Jacobs get done. So I didn't think

1020
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Speaker 9: it was spin, but they were like really upfront with him.

1021
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Speaker 9: So even like our spin kind of doesn't really matter.

1022
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 9: The only thing that matters is the Raiders talking to him,

1023
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 9: and I think they were really like transparent upfront about

1024
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Speaker 9: what happened and how close they got.

1025
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Speaker 5: I want to shift gears because I feel like over

1026
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 5: these summer months there have been these sometimes valid, invalid,

1027
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 5: but just whispers that Bill Belichick Robert Kraft in New England, like,

1028
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 5: is tention there?

1029
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 3: Do they really want?

1030
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Speaker 9: I saw that there was a Tom Karran thing that I.

1031
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 5: Saw and like, like, I mean, you know, you hear

1032
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 5: about how crappt I thought, went out of his way

1033
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 5: to defend Matt Patricia and what happened last year. To

1034
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 5: some degree, he's gone out of his way to praise

1035
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 5: Jared Mayo and the fact that they really love him

1036
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 5: so much, Like is there a world where Bill Belichick

1037
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Speaker 5: is on the hot seat to some degree this season?

1038
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Speaker 9: I I don't view it like that. First of all,

1039
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Speaker 9: I think they're gonna be fine, or maybe more than fine.

1040
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 9: I think, you know, Bill O'Brien was a very good hire.

1041
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 9: I think mac Jones was not coached very well at

1042
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 9: all last year, and like, I don't know how you're

1043
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 9: supposed to judge a second year quarterback when he gets

1044
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 9: injured and then was coach poorly, Like that's just a

1045
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 9: nothing against Matt Patricia. Like good defensive coach, he just

1046
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 9: is not an offensive coordinator. I just they need to

1047
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 9: do better. But are you asking me, like do I

1048
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 9: think Robert Kraft would like outright fire Bill Belichick after

1049
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 9: the season, Like I don't see it like that.

1050
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 5: Is there is there tension there?

1051
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 9: I mean I don't. I think they agree on how

1052
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 9: to move forward, and they agreed on where things needed

1053
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 9: to go after last season, which was not good enough.

1054
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Speaker 9: I think they would both like to win. But like

1055
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 9: to me, tension is like one side wants one thing,

1056
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 9: the other side wants something different. Like I don't think

1057
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Speaker 9: this is like a GM and an owner or coach

1058
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Speaker 9: and an owner not on the same page. I think

1059
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Speaker 9: it's most like both wish there were more wins, but

1060
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Speaker 9: I think they're okay as far as like how to proceed.

1061
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Speaker 6: Belichick like mentioning the amount of actual cash they were spending,

1062
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Speaker 6: to me was an eye opener.

1063
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Speaker 2: A red flat.

1064
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Speaker 1: Here's the quote from Craft that was in March when asked.

1065
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Speaker 9: We were all standing in the flowers in March.

1066
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Speaker 1: Yes, whether Bill's job could be in jeopardy, and Craft said, look,

1067
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Speaker 1: I'd like him to break Don Chilo's record, but I'm

1068
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Speaker 1: not that's for all time wins reread coaches. But I'm

1069
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Speaker 1: not looking for any of our players to get great stats.

1070
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Speaker 1: We're about winning and doing whatever we can to win,

1071
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Speaker 1: and that's what our focus is now. And this is

1072
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Speaker 1: where I thought it was interesting, and it's very important

1073
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: to me that we make the playoffs and that's what

1074
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Speaker 1: I hope happens next year, which led to me and

1075
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: a lot of other people saying that don't sound very

1076
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 1: close to a playoffs or bust mandate from the owner.

1077
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: But of course this isn't just any other coach. But

1078
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: you're so you don't see it that way. It's there's

1079
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: too much history for it to be as straightforward as that.

1080
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 9: It's the greatest coach of all time, right, And I

1081
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 9: know this whole organization has been built on not caring

1082
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 9: as much about the records, whatever individual records, whatever they are, right,

1083
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 9: but about to become the greatest coach of all time,

1084
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 9: and like, let's say they go eight to nine this year,

1085
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 9: I don't know, miss the playoffs. They need still be

1086
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 9: nine away from the all time record. I don't think

1087
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 9: that's a reason to keep anyone. But I don't see

1088
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 9: Robert Craft being like, all right, you're out, Drod Mayo,

1089
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 9: come in. I just I would be beyond.

1090
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: Some You used to cover the Pats for the Herald

1091
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: back in the day. Do you ever have any texts

1092
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: with Bill just about golf or anything else?

1093
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 9: Uh? I will decline to answer that question. Bon Jovi

1094
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 9: is he still a bon Jovie fanderd? He kind of

1095
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 9: moved on thought that was.

1096
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 6: Actually, like, so you return his text, just not not mine.

1097
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 9: One of my favorite Bill Belichick interactions was I ran

1098
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 9: into him an Indie and for the combine, and like,

1099
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 9: you know, I hadn't seen him in a little bit,

1100
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 9: and so I was like, this is great, Like we'll

1101
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 9: get to catch up. And I'm thinking, like we're going

1102
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 9: to talk about football, and he's just gonna tell me

1103
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 9: everyone they're going to sign in free agency. And that

1104
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 9: ended up being a thirty minute conversation on horse racing

1105
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 9: MM and like a full breakdown of like which track

1106
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 9: is best to watch races on and like why he

1107
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 9: loves it and like why I love it? And then

1108
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 9: about fashion and women's fashion and hats. It was amazing.

1109
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 6: Wow, that's the podcast. I need Bill Belichick on women's

1110
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 6: horse racing fashion.

1111
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 9: If you if you wanted Bill Belichick on this podcast,

1112
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 9: which obviously had a big shooes to fill after today,

1113
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 9: but I think you could probably get him if you

1114
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 9: were like, listen, here's what we're gonna ask you about

1115
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 9: no football and just all the like non football topics

1116
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 9: that he loves so so much.

1117
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: Can you make a note of this. We're gonna have

1118
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: a post production media about how to pitch Bill last

1119
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: question because we know you gotta go busy man.

1120
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,479
Speaker 9: But they're getting so many texts or tomorrow, so many

1121
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 9: texts and calls during this conversation.

1122
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 1: So Josh McDaniels will see what happens with him this year,

1123
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick probably safe, but maybe not. In a couple

1124
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: of weeks, we do our annual hot butt rankings of

1125
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: head coaches. Like last year, for example, everyone's like, call

1126
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: Matt Ruhle his his butts on fire, and sure enough

1127
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: it was. Do you sense any coaches out there that

1128
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: are under an immensive amount of pressure at the rule

1129
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: level to you know, survive to Halloween.

1130
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 9: For instance, I don't sense anybody like that. Like I

1131
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 9: think last year going in, I think we all kind

1132
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 9: of knew, like, all right, maybe the Panthers if they

1133
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 9: don't win, it could be. It's not it's not really

1134
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 9: like that this year. Now, these things can happen so

1135
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 9: fast that I certainly did not see Frank Reid coming

1136
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 9: last year. So this, you know, the way a season materializes,

1137
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 9: like I can you know, these can kind of take

1138
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 9: a shape of its own.

1139
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: But I don't.

1140
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 9: I mean maybe if you like, you could read through

1141
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 9: the list of teams and I could come up with.

1142
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 6: Somebody, this is a hope season. You're about to visit

1143
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 6: half these teams you don't want to be uh well,

1144
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 6: it's also like so like I was at the Rams today,

1145
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 6: Commanders is an obvious one if they don't win, just

1146
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 6: new owner new owners, like, but they're not going to

1147
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 6: do it like during the season necessarily, But I'm saying

1148
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 6: that we probably need to get it, get a winning record.

1149
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 9: They're probably one, but like they also could like they

1150
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 9: also could be good.

1151
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 6: All these teams could be good. The Browns if they think,

1152
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 6: you would think we'll make a change.

1153
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 9: But like Deshaun Watson, only on the field, Deshaun Watson

1154
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 9: has been a very very very very good quarterback except

1155
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 9: for last year. Like I still think he's gonna end

1156
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 9: up as a very good player, and if that's the case,

1157
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 9: they should be good. But like the Rams are a

1158
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 9: good example. I went there yes yesterday. Yeah, I have

1159
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 9: no earthly idea how good the Rams are gonna be.

1160
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 9: They are very young, they still have some really good players,

1161
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 9: but they have a lot of players I have not

1162
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 9: heard of. And they have a coach who's in a

1163
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 9: much better place this year, and I think is gonna

1164
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 9: love coaching this team. So they could finish four and thirteen,

1165
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 9: or they could finish ten and seven.

1166
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 6: I have no idea If they are two and five

1167
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 6: at the trading deadline, though, don't you think they're a team.

1168
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 6: I'm kind of circling for that. And the Titans would

1169
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 6: maybe be another where the trade deadline doesn't pop too

1170
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 6: much in the NFL. Maybe the Bucks teams they have

1171
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 6: some veterans. If they're really buried, I would think that

1172
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 6: the Rams, I don't know, Like Matthew Stould think about pivoting.

1173
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 9: Right, but like then it's like a lot of sound.

1174
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 9: That's the problem with the trade deadline, and like I

1175
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 9: know it's the way it's constructed, so whatever, but likely

1176
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 9: it's so hard to move someone with a big salary

1177
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 9: in October nobody has the space or whenever the trade

1178
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 9: deadline is.

1179
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 5: But in LA though, Brandon Staley, he's someone I feel

1180
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 5: like if they flounder again after the way last season ended.

1181
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 5: Talented young coach, but like that feels sort of hot

1182
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 5: seatish to me.

1183
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 9: Uh, I mean two new coordinators and sometimes two new

1184
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 9: coordinators is the start of something not good. Also, like

1185
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 9: I think Kellen Moore is gonna be really really good

1186
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 9: and they should be running more of Staley's defense this year.

1187
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 9: Like if they're strangely bad, I would say it could

1188
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 9: get late early there. But they should be good, you know,

1189
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 9: like they have really good players, like they should be.

1190
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 9: I think they should be really good.

1191
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: Ian Rapaport, You've said it all. I didn't even need

1192
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: to be the peacemaker this time because they're just tranquil

1193
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: vibes here much more.

1194
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 2: Comfortable before this season.

1195
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 6: I mean, I just met Lee yuh, Ian's lovely wife,

1196
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 6: he is kind of a power move.

1197
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 2: But I appreciated it.

1198
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 6: I think it's the first spouse I've ever seen brought

1199
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 6: to the content summit. But you have to be high

1200
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 6: enough on the totem pole. I think this is what

1201
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,479
Speaker 6: I'm talking about. But you know what, everyone, I talked

1202
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 6: some tennis.

1203
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: You know.

1204
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 5: It was great.

1205
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 2: It was great.

1206
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 5: I hope you didn't have to sit through that.

1207
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 6: She's a sable Antha fan, which really impresses me.

1208
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 3: All right, gotta go, all right, there he goes, He

1209
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 3: said it all.

1210
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: Where could he be going?

1211
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: Who's the call from? Just say it?

1212
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: What could it really be? That's that important?

1213
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: It's like a sourcer.

1214
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 5: He completely forgot it. We existed as he exited this room.

1215
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: I know, but you I think it's and thank you

1216
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: to Ian for coming. Yeah, definitely, Like it makes him

1217
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: feel like a big man to walk out on the

1218
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: phone like that, Just drop the headset and get on

1219
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: the phone and walk out.

1220
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 7: He was talking to somebody's I don't think he's I

1221
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 7: don't think coming out of the phone, I don't know

1222
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 7: if I don't know if it was anybody, I don't

1223
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 7: think he could.

1224
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: I was a full performance and I think, Wow, it's

1225
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: the brand. It's a way to show this was a

1226
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: thing I did. Like you said, it's already forgotten because

1227
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: now I'm on the phone with Bill Belichick.

1228
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 5: For sure.

1229
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 6: Well it's a crutch, but it's also an assist. Kyle

1230
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 6: Brandt always points out when he does the photo recap

1231
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 6: of like the ten NFL Talent photo, it's always rap

1232
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 6: sheet with the phone like he's looking at the phone.

1233
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: So it's sort of branding.

1234
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 6: It's his bit, but it also gets him out of

1235
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 6: uncolored having to interact with lesser.

1236
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: He can we get an instant replay of him storming

1237
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: out of the studio. You have those capabilities, kicks the

1238
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: chair back as he leaves, not in real time.

1239
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: We work on that in post.

1240
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: All right, we're going to hire someone one hundred and

1241
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: ninety seven thousand dollars a year just to have us

1242
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: like a slow motion replay retainer. But maybe maybe on

1243
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: Instagram people would see the walkout by Yeah, we can

1244
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: make that happen. All right, good stuff. Any takeaways from that?

1245
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: I think I agree with him. I thought it was

1246
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: good because and Ian knows how things work on the

1247
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: Patriot Way because he lived up there and covered that team,

1248
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: So I think that there is something to be said

1249
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: for what he was putting. That was like, yeah, we

1250
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: read the quote or see the quote from Craft, and

1251
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: it makes it seem like it's a cut and dry thing,

1252
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: because almost any other owner you see that be like, yes,

1253
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: that is very clear that that team needs to win

1254
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: nine or ten games or else. But I think Craft

1255
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: is not a guy it's gonna do anything in a

1256
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: hasty manner. I think he's an excellent owner, and it

1257
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: would take something truly. I think we talked about pell Raiser.

1258
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: It'd be a hell raising in New England, like a

1259
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: four and thirteen. That schedule is social fighting.

1260
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 6: Even his scenario he laid out to me, I immediately thought,

1261
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 6: worst case scenario. If he won eight games and he

1262
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 6: was nine away from beating Sula, then I'm just thinking, well,

1263
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 6: what if he wins like eight games the next year

1264
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 6: and then he's won away for like that, The whole

1265
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 6: thing could be excruciating and sad. So the thing that

1266
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 6: they they got to do is just win ten games,

1267
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,439
Speaker 6: win eleven game, sprite some people, and then I don't

1268
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 6: have to worry about it.

1269
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 5: I thought what he pointed out though, was that there

1270
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 5: isn't like it's not setting the table for a clash.

1271
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 5: They want the same things. But another milk toast season

1272
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 5: by the Patriots puts you in a weird place.

1273
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: Milk toast, Yes, I think it's a little uncomfortable. I

1274
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: do think. And we'll see because we all fall into

1275
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: the trap and we did last you know, last year.

1276
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: The AFC West AFC East looks very good on paper.

1277
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: If it really did play out where the Jets, Dolphins,

1278
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: and Bills were all big time teams and the Pats

1279
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: go five and twelve, then what like what would what

1280
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: would necessitate some type of like watershed moment in New England?

1281
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 3: It might be a true cratering. I don't see it happening,

1282
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 3: but I mean.

1283
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 5: I just from the craft tangle for the point that

1284
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 5: he's not like a knee jerk reaction type guy. Like

1285
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 5: if you're Robert crafton you move on from Bill Belichick,

1286
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 5: you have to follow that up with another coach who

1287
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 5: people are going to be comparing to Bill Belichick. He

1288
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 5: needs to succeed right away. You don't want to be

1289
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 5: that person, although everybody want, You.

1290
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: Don't want to be the guy. You want to be

1291
01:00:58,560 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: a guy that replaces the guy.

1292
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 6: I feel like we know the guy unless Belichick it

1293
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 6: starts hitting hot streak and lasts another five years, which

1294
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 6: is possible. And that guy's Jared Mayo.

1295
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I'm just I'm just saying, if I'm Jared Mayo,

1296
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: you want to follow up Bill Belichick, I want to

1297
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: do that.

1298
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing is, things are different this year.

1299
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 6: Craft released this statement about that Mayo hiring, which they

1300
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 6: never do. They actually finally break not it's not breaking news,

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Speaker 6: but they did finally on the Patriots website tell the

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Speaker 6: public just if you click coaches, who the Patriots coaches

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Speaker 6: are this year?

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Speaker 5: But that was just this week, and Joe Judge was and.

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Speaker 6: There's only like again, it's only like seven of them

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Speaker 6: and four are related to Belichick, and.

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Speaker 5: Judge was essentially promoted, which is mysterious.

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Speaker 2: Joe Judge was promoted to man some people, man some people.

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Speaker 1: All right, good stuff. Thank you again to rap Sheet

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Speaker 1: for joining us, and we will be back with one

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Speaker 1: more show this week. So thank you for being along

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Speaker 1: on the ride. As we you know, the beginning of

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Speaker 1: training camp and as we head toward a new year.

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Speaker 1: We are rolling now.

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Speaker 3: Now let us go, Mark the floor is yours to

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Speaker 3: say goodbye, well.

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Speaker 1: Farewell to you, you being the listeners, farewell.

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Speaker 2: It's like two A days to call

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