1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: As a lead fifteen to ten touchdown Chargers. 2 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: Once of guys welcome into it. 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 3: Bring a new episode of Chargers Weekly as always joined 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: by Matt Buddy Smith. We are twenty eight days away 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 3: from the twenty twenty four NFL Draft, so much to 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: dive into. Obviously a lot of draft speculation, but the 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: lead this week was Jim Harball speaking at the Otter's Meetings. 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: He spoke for about thirty five minutes or so, and Buddy, 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 3: I have a lot of thoughts. First of all, excuse 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: the audio. My computer has crashed multiple times. I've put 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 3: money through the wringer through the last twenty five minutes, 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 3: so I apologize if my audio is a little little 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: tiney this week. I apologize. But Buddy, like I said, 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: I have a lot of thoughts on Jim Harpball, and 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: I know you do too. I'll beat you the floor first. 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think first and foremost. It's a reminder of 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: how many football lives you know, Coach Harboys lived. Based 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 1: on that thirty plus minutes that he delivered, I ended 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: up watching a handful of the pressers from general managers 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: and head coaches, and the one thing that you notice 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: is just the number of different voices asking him questions, 22 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: the number of different people gathered behind him, all the 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: different lines of questioning a lot, obviously the majority about 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: the Chargers and moving forward, but also about the forty 25 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: nine Ers and twenty eleven in his first year, and 26 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: how did you flip a team that went six and 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: ten to thirteen and three and what were the keys 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: to success there? And can you apply those to twenty 29 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: twenty four and a Chargers team that was five and twelve. 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: There were a ton of questions about success at Michigan 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: and developing players and three star players that are now 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: or two stars or five star whatever it was, that 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: are now perhaps going to put together the most number 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: of players selected from a single school in a single 35 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: NFL draft. It's very likely that that's going to happen 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: with Michigan this year. So to me, that was my 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: number one takeaway, just as a big picture in the macro, 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: what I noticed is here's someone who has had so 39 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: much success at so many different places, and everybody is 40 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: trying to tap into how do you do it? How 41 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: did you do it there? How did you do it here? 42 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: And how are you planning on doing it here? And 43 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: it's a reminder of what the Charger's got, how lucky 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: we are to have coach harbab back in the league, 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: and especially for us selfishly lucky to have him as 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: the head coach of the Bolts. 47 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 3: So money Jim said a lot. Let's start with the 48 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: draft because there's a potential that top four picks could 49 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 3: be quarterbacks, including one of his ja j O lccarthy. 50 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: Pick a great player at five. 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 4: There's gonna be a great player at five, you know, 52 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 4: in some ways now there could be there's talk of 53 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 4: you know, four quarterbacks going in the first four picks, 54 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: where if that happens, that then that pick really becomes 55 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 4: like the number one pick in the draft. If four 56 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 4: quarterbacks go in the first four picks, that's not like 57 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 4: the fifth pick anymore. That's like it's like the number 58 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 4: one pick of the draft for teams that you know, 59 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 4: have a great quarterback already. 60 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: So we'll see. I mean, then maybe there's a. 61 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 4: Maybe there's a maybe the first maybe four quarterbacks don't 62 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 4: go in a row, and it's unprecedented that's ever happened, 63 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 4: but maybe there's still another quarterback there when the fifth 64 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 4: pick comes around and somebody wants to again, that would 65 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 4: be like the number one pick, wouldn't be like the 66 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: calculator for the fifth pick anymore. 67 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 3: So I think that there's a method to Jim's madness 68 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: while also believing he thinks that JJ is one of 69 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: the top quarterbacks in this draft. But that directly benefits 70 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: the Chargers because you essentially get a lot of other 71 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: teams who already are set a quarterback would really hold 72 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: the number one overall pick in the draft at five. 73 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he's saying. And I think there's two 74 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: things to take away from that, Chris. Number one is 75 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: something that we've talked about repeatedly here and really most 76 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: recently on the last pod based on Daniel jeremiahs mock, 77 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: and we said, hey, if the Jets are coming up 78 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: from ten and all they're offering is a twenty twenty 79 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: five to two, that ain't going to get it done. 80 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: And that's essentially what Jim said at the bat, what 81 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: Coach said at the back end of that clip we 82 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: just played, is we either have the number one non 83 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft at number five, or we've got 84 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: one of the top four quarterbacks that now it appears 85 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: as though teams are trying to jockey to draft. So 86 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: if you want number five, he's subtly saying, we're open 87 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: for business. We are interested in talking to you if 88 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: you want to come up and get number five. But 89 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: then he also adds there he used the word calculator. 90 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: I think what people would be most familiar with is 91 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: trade chart. But he said, hey, the calculator ain't what 92 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: it used to be. Yeah, he's saying, you are not 93 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: going to say this pick is worth seventeen hundred and 94 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: our pick ten is worth twelve to fifty, and so 95 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: we're going to give you two next year. No, he's saying, 96 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: is this is not your standard low rent department store. 97 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: This is not the store you want to come shop 98 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: for pick number five. You're shopping on Rodale Drive, and 99 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: you're going to pay a premium. So be prepared to 100 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: pay a premium if you want us to get out 101 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: of here, because that's what it's going to cost you. 102 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: You're either taking a quarterback or you're taking the number 103 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: one non quarterback in the draft. And I think, just 104 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: quickly to say the other side of things, Chris is 105 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: he saying, hey, pretty good place for us to be 106 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert, right, I get to select what is 107 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: perhaps the best player in the draft, because everybody puts 108 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: a premium on quarterbacks. Now at number five, if four 109 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks go, we get our choice. We get to take 110 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: who we think is the best player in this draft. 111 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: And that is how fortunate we are with this particular pick. 112 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: And then if that is the case, Chris, I think 113 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: that's where the conversation becomes very interesting in that room 114 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: for that fifteen minutes if they decide they're not being 115 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: offered enough to trade out and they do stick and pick. 116 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: So if you're at number five overall, you're Chargers, And 117 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: that makes for an interesting conversation. As you said, we 118 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: talk about all the teams that are going to potentially 119 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: trade up for a quarterback. Listen, we've seen teams trade 120 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: up for other positions as well, wide receiver. I remember 121 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 3: Marcus Stavenport didn't the Saints give up a lot to 122 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: get him. So is somebody willing to trade the farm 123 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 3: for Marvin Harrison Junior? 124 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 125 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior could be a guy that many teams 126 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: view as the missing piece to their own defense. Or 127 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 3: is Marvin Harrison Junior a generational talent? That the Chargers say, hey, 128 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: we just lost Mike Waves and Keenan Allen. Let's bring 129 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: this guy in on a rookie deal and expect all 130 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 3: pro leg production in his first three or four years 131 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: at a fraction of the cost. So you're right, they're 132 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: sitting pretty right now. And it's just it's a matter 133 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: of if anybody's willing to play ball, and if not, 134 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: who's the best player on your board? And from the 135 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: conversations we had an Indiana, it seems to me that 136 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: the wide receivers are the best players overall on the 137 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: board compared to any of a position with the top ten. 138 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: That's what it feels like. And and I think you 139 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: hit a lot of things there, and particularly that someone 140 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: would probably be willing to give up quite a handsome 141 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: sum to come up and get Marvin Harrison Junior if 142 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: he's there. I know that there's and you know Malik 143 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: Neighbors pro Day, he lit it up a four three 144 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: five forty forty two inch vertical. I know all of 145 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: those explosives are there because you could see it on tape. 146 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: You knew that that's what he was going to do. 147 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: But and some people are saying, look, there's teams that 148 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: have Malik Neighbors as the number one receiver, Chris Simms 149 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: has them as his number one receiver. It still feels like, 150 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: for the most part, it's Marvin Harrison Junior. It still 151 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: feels like people view him as a transcendent generational type talent. 152 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: And that's why if it goes quarterbacks one through four, 153 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: that's why I think it gets real interesting. And I 154 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: have no idea what the Chargers board is going to 155 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: look like. Who they have as the top rated player. 156 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: What is the gap between Marvin Harrison Junior and Malik 157 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: Nighbors and Roma Dunes, And then when you get into 158 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: that second tier Brian Thomas and Roman Wilson and Kean 159 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: Coleman like all of these players, aladm Lance McConkey, Like, 160 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what that looks like, but you know 161 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: that's where the debate comes in, Like, hey, is Marvin Harrison. 162 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: Let's just say it's a ladder with ten rungs. Is 163 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: he on the tenth rung at the top, and then 164 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: the next wide receiver is on rung six or the 165 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: next player is on rung seven, And that's where they'd 166 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: be like, we have to stick and pick I know 167 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: you want the old lineman, you know, and I know 168 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: you want to build through the trenches. And maybe you 169 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: really like this corner and you know you like Mitchell 170 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: or you like Arnold. But if we just play this out, 171 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: if we are to string this out to best possible outcome, 172 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: we believe this is the next Larry Fitzgerald. That's who 173 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: we think Marvin Harrison Junior is. So I told you 174 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: I can get you the next Larry. What we have 175 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: evaluated to be someone that is of that caliber, is 176 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: of that professionalism, is that polished, has that well rounded 177 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: of a game. Right now, if I told you, best 178 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: case this guy is going to be Larry fitz and 179 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: you've got him for the next fifteen years, are you 180 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: really comfortable taking best case scenario the best right tackle 181 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: in football? What do you want that's your Let's say 182 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: Joe Walt becomes the best right tackle in football, or 183 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: I give you Larry Fitzgerald for fifteen years. And that's 184 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: a tough conversation. And that's the type of conversation that 185 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: we're talking about. If they can't trade out of that spot, 186 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: that they're going to have to have, and it is 187 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: not an easy one. I would assume. 188 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: That's the thing. 189 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: Joe Walt. 190 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: I think he played exclusively at left tackle at Notre Dame. Correct, 191 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: so we haven't seen him at right tackle. History lesson 192 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 3: for Chargers fans. All right, September first, nineteen ninety six, 193 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: do we know what happened on that day? Marvin Harris 194 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: Senior caught his first touchdown pass from Jim Harball as 195 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: a member of the Indianapolis Colts. Jim Harball has seen 196 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior across the field for a few years 197 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 3: at Ohio State. You think Jim Harbond knows a thing 198 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: or two about Marvin Harrison Senior and Marvin Harrison Junior. 199 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: So it really comes down to that, like if if 200 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 3: Jim thinks that this is a generational player that I 201 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: can pair with my franchise quarterback for the next several years, 202 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: and we can kick the can when it comes to 203 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: giving him that that thirty five or forty million dollars 204 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: a year, money that he's going to probably command when 205 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 3: his first contract is up. I think that's I think 206 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: that's a pretty nice constellation prize at number five. As 207 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 3: you take Marvin Harrison, Marvin Harrison Junior and again Welllique 208 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: Napers is in that conversation rope with Doonsday. A lot 209 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: of people like him just as much. But it's just 210 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: it is an interesting and I think a very appealing 211 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: situation for the Chargers. And now it's just a matter 212 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: of does anybody want to play ball? Because if they 213 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: do want to play ball, then I think the conversation 214 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: gets really interesting. Money about getting a guy league for Wanga, 215 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 3: maybe at eleven and then and then getting best player 216 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: available at twenty three. Maybe that is a wide receiver. 217 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 3: Maybe it's a guy like Brian Thomas or or you know, right, 218 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 3: you get an extra second or whatever. So that's that's 219 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: kind of where we are right now. And I just 220 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 3: find it fascinating. And I think that Jim is doing 221 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: break work for JJ, but he's also doing great work 222 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 3: for the Chargers. 223 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: No doubt. I mean, look look at the odds on JJ. 224 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's plus twenty five hundred to go number two, 225 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: and then word leaks out of the league meetings that 226 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: Washington is incredibly sweet on him, and now he's at 227 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: plus four hundred to go number two overall. And I 228 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: don't think there's any question if he ends up going 229 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: to you're gonna have teams falling over themselves to try 230 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: to get up for Drake may or Jayden Daniels. So 231 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: I do think that that's the case that you know, 232 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: is a team willing to trade up for JJ. It 233 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: does sound like he's got fans that that are starting 234 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: to buy what what Jim Harsball has been trying to 235 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: tell us, And that's look, this guy's it, man. He 236 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: just did not He did what he was asked. He 237 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: did not have to put on a show like some 238 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: of these other quarterbacks because of the offense that he 239 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: was in. But like just to put a rap on 240 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: that particular you know, piece of audio from coach, I 241 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: still think what I what my number one takeaway is 242 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: they really want to trade out. They really want to 243 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: trade out and continue to to amass more picks and 244 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: try to extract a premium because that look, that's and 245 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: I think it's and I said I was, I was 246 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: kind of spitting out a bunch of names. You know, 247 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position, there is still there is 248 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: still an Addie Mitchell, there is still Lad McConkey, There 249 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: is still Roman Wilson. There are guys that are going 250 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: to be sitting there when they pick at thirty seven, 251 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: that that are that are probably highly graded and might 252 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: even be like back end of the first round level 253 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: greats on some of these guys, And so I think 254 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: that's something to kind of keep in mind in terms 255 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: of how they want to play this thing. But that's 256 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: sort of just to put a button on it. That's 257 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: sort of what I'm trying to if I'm going to 258 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: read anything into it. It's not, Hey, I'm excited to 259 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: make a pick at five and have my selection of 260 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: all the non quarterbacks. No, it's more come give us 261 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: a premium, because that's a win as well. If the 262 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: chart says that pick five is worth seventeen hundred and 263 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: the combination of eleven and twenty three, let's just say 264 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: that it's Minnesota that decides the trade up. Because you know, 265 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: Arizona sticks and takes Marvin Harrison Junior and they offer 266 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: you eleven and twenty three, you're basically getting a free 267 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: third rounder. That's what the trade chart says. You should 268 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: be giving away your first and your third to get 269 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: eleven and twenty three. Instead, you say, no, we're not 270 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: giving you the third. Just give us eleven and twenty 271 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: three if you want five, and so that's I think 272 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: you have to view that as a win, like that's 273 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: that's a win for this front office. They have managed 274 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: to win the trade value, you know, battle between these 275 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: two teams in this exchange. If that makes sense, no. 276 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: Doubt it does. 277 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 3: We'll stick with the wide receiver position because he had 278 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 3: a great quote about Keenan. You're making twenty three million 279 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: dollars and you get to play in Chicago. Who's got 280 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 3: it better? And it's it's true, who's kind of better? 281 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: Man? It's it's in it's business. He said. 282 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: It's very it's very transparent. This is what it is. Uh, 283 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: and you know, we talked about this last week. It's 284 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: very transparent in terms of what the cap number was 285 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: and what needed to be done to that position in 286 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: order to be CALF compliant and then kind of rebuild 287 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: your roster and it'd be healthy throughout, you know, the 288 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: next several years when it comes to your cap. So 289 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: he praised Keenan out the door. He said, a great 290 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: deal for Mike getting fifteen million year, but that leads 291 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: to a different looking wide receiver room. 292 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: And he talked about really excited about Quentin his opportunity 293 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 4: josh Palmer, Darius Uh. And then it's still it's not 294 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 4: even April yet. Now we've got the draft comment and. 295 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: In free agency too. Free agency. 296 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: Freegency lasts, you know, before the draft, after the draft. 297 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: So buddy, you've been very high on Joshua Palmer. I'm 298 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: right there with you. Quinton Johnson. Uh, we hope commit 299 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: that that next league. But Jim said, but we said 300 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: last week it's March. The room still is TBD when 301 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: it comes to free agency, the second and third wave 302 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 3: the draft, So don't panic yet. Just because two big 303 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: wide shooters are out the door helps. 304 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: On the way. 305 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: And I think he you know in that in that 306 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: statement he acknowledged the wide receiver room's not complete. I 307 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: know that we know that, but like you said, he 308 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: acknowledged it's early. Every you know, the first wave of 309 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: free agency is not the only wave you've got post June. 310 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: First cuts for teams that may move on from a 311 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: very good wide receiver. You know, the compensatory picks do 312 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: not go past the I think it's the Monday following 313 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: the draft. So once you get to that point, you know, 314 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: now you're compensatory formulas. I don't think it's June first anymore. 315 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: I want to say they changed it to be like 316 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: the first. It's either like the Tuesday or the Monday 317 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: after the draft, I think, is what it's at. So 318 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: now you don't have to pay into the compensatory pool 319 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: for signing these guys post drafts, So post June first cuts, 320 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: compensatory pick, you know, adjustments there. You know, there is 321 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: plenty of work to do. He acknowledged that and said 322 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: it's early. It's early. We have still got a second 323 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: wave of free agency. He mentioned the draft specifically, So 324 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: I think for all the people that feel as though 325 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: we've sort of been preaching he doesn't care about wide receivers. 326 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: He's not interested in populating. No, that's not what he's saying. 327 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: He's just saying, slow down, we're good, we got you, 328 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: we're good. Stop saying that we've got the worst wide 329 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: receiver room in the league. You know, not fair to 330 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: what we think they could be. These players could be. 331 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: But at the same time, this is not a complete 332 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: room yet. So let's wait until training camp August first 333 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: before we start freaking out and castigating the front office 334 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: and the coaching staff for what it looks like right now. 335 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: Because they're not going to play a meaningful game for 336 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: another five months. 337 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 3: After we did our pod last week, I really got 338 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: to thinking about some of the stuff that we talked about, 339 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: but with just regards to Justin's numbers and stats and players. 340 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 3: And again you're used to guys like Keenan and Mike 341 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: being on the roster, and when I say this, I'm 342 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: not taking any anything away from those players, but I 343 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 3: just go back to that Jacksonville game up twenty seven 344 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 3: to nothing, and would Jim Harball led team blow that lead. 345 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely not like it just it wouldn't happen. Austin had 346 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: average like two point seven yards per carrying that game. 347 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: Mike Williams was not in that game. Keenan Allen six 348 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: catches sixty one yards. Again, I know that that's one game, 349 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: but it's a playoff game. So I think that when 350 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 3: you look at Jim Harball coming in, you have to 351 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: let Jim do what he does best, and that's remake 352 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 3: the roster and his image, set a culture of winning 353 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 3: because Chargers fans are here will win. Like I get 354 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 3: that there hasn't been a ton of winning in January, 355 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: you know, over the last several years, but it's it's 356 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 3: time to let Jim Harball take the reins of this 357 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: program and remake this roster. Jeff Miller asked to me, 358 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 3: because do you think you can do it in a year? 359 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna take longer than a year. But 360 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: Jim says, I think we can, you know. And that's 361 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 3: that's what's happening right now, the second and third wave 362 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: of free agency. I think Jim and Joe Ortiz are 363 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 3: sitting back seeing what's out there, seeing what they can 364 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 3: get at certain positions, and then really trying to stack 365 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 3: these draft picks, develop these guys as soon as possible, 366 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 3: so the culture is going to be set. And he 367 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: and he even mentioned that I someone else asked him 368 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 3: about just you know, are you guys there yet? He said, well, 369 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 3: April second, April second, April second. I can't wait to 370 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: get April second, because that's when he can get his 371 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 3: hands on the players. So there's a long way to go. 372 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 3: But I don't know. I just look at some of 373 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 3: the guys who were who were on this team, who 374 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: did incredible work and put up great stats, and just 375 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: because they're gone doesn't mean you can't win. 376 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Just kind of going back to that 377 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: to that game, right you're up twenty seven to zero 378 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: and you find a way to you know, find defeat 379 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: from the hands of victory. And it was. It's one 380 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: of the one of the worst meltdowns in NFL postseason history. 381 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's how bad it was. And so I 382 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: want to give credit to at m ib PG two. 383 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: MiB PBJ two is the is the Twitter feed that 384 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: posted this, and it's great. He talked about the Chargers 385 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: offense run heavy. People you know, concerned about Herbert and 386 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: his involvement are saying, what's the point of even having 387 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: Herbert trade them away for multiple first that's how you're 388 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: going to run it and have a game manager that 389 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: sort of stuff. So he went through it and did 390 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: a heck of a job because he points out, yes, 391 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: Harball with the forty nine Ers was run heavy. If 392 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: you look at it in totality, fourth most run heavy offense. 393 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: But if you break it down by halves, you will 394 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: find that in the first half he is league average 395 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: in run percentage. What happens is in the second half 396 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: in games that they are winning, the graph shoots through 397 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: the roof. This is someone who is so good at 398 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: run game execution that the second they had a lead 399 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: in the second half, I'll I'll read it verbatim because 400 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: he did such a perfect job of explaining it. It's 401 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: as if they wait until halftime to decide to whether 402 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: decide whether to alter their game plan, and then do 403 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: so dramatically. I am comparing it here to other teams 404 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: that span win percentage and rush percentage, wins and losses 405 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 1: overlaid on the same plot. And when you look at it, 406 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: imagine a wishbone from a turkey turned on its side. 407 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: That's what it looks like. When they're winning, it spikes 408 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: dramatically because they're so good at running the ball and 409 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: running the four minute offense and making sure they pound 410 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: that team into submission and maintain their lead. When they're losing, 411 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: they throw it and they're trying to play catch up. 412 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: But the point is is this is a team that 413 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: wants to run the ball to win the game. We're 414 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: going to get a lead, and we're going to get 415 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 1: it with a balanced offense. But the second we get it, 416 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: when we build that lead and we have that advantage, 417 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: no one's going to be better at holding it than 418 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: we are. And that's why you need the offensive line, 419 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: and that's why you need the run game, because you 420 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: don't want to give the lead up. You want to 421 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: be able to flip and while the other team is chasing, 422 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: you're taking the air out of the ball. You're pounding 423 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: them into submission with run plays and successful run plays. 424 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: And that's that was the formula in San Francisco. It 425 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: wasn't we're playing it safe from kickoff to the final whistle. No, 426 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: it's second half is when it really kicked in. And 427 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: god knows how many second halves and how many leads 428 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: did Justin Herbert have in the fourth quarter on an 429 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: offense when either the defense couldn't hold or the offense 430 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: couldn't hold the ball long enough to spell the defense 431 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 1: to make sure that that win was a win and 432 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: it didn't turn into a loss. 433 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: Well money, what a great segue into our final SoundBite 434 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 3: from Jim Arball talking about the offensive line. 435 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: I mean, if I asked you the question of like, 436 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: what position group. 437 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: Depends on no other position group to be good, but 438 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 4: every other position group depends on them to be good, 439 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 4: you know what position group is that offensive line. They're 440 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 4: not relying on any other position group to be good. 441 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 4: They go out and they're good, But yet every other 442 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 4: group relies on the offensive line. 443 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 2: To be good. And then the d line they're like, 444 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: they'll be the ones that argue back, Yeah. 445 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 4: We don't know, we don't need the offensive line to 446 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: be good. Do you do you like do you like 447 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 4: when I when the offense has a twelve play drive 448 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 4: and you know the field position? 449 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 450 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, you're right. You know it's like so yeah, that. 451 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 4: Building that you know, building that uh you know kind 452 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 4: of offensive line that's exciting. 453 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: So I know we've said it the last few weeks 454 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 3: straight from the horse's mouth there you think that offensive 455 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: line plays important for the LA Chargers. 456 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And and it's a great point. And the 457 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: second I saw it, I immediately wanted to get it 458 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: out there because it's not just understand folks, I see, 459 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: I get it. I enjoy that you interact with me, 460 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: but like the idea that I am hell bent on 461 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: drafting an offensive lineman at number five or with the 462 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: first pick, or that's not what we're discussing here. All 463 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: we're doing is talking about what we think this regime 464 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: wants to do and how they want to build the 465 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: team and how they believe it's going to be successful. 466 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: And there's a reason why that SoundBite. Here we are 467 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: three days later from him saying it, and it's still 468 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 1: making the rounds. People are still cutting it up, Coaches 469 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: are cutting it up and sending it out big time 470 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: media people in football are cutting it up and sending 471 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: it out. Why because it's true, Because it rings true. 472 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: Everything he said there is what if you talk to 473 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: football people, they will tell you is the foundation of success. 474 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: Offensive line. If you cannot block, you cannot throw. If 475 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: you can't block, you can't open up to run the ball. 476 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: If you can't run the ball, you have three and outs, 477 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: and now your defense is on the field. And that's 478 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: funny part about that last part of that clip, because 479 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, I love that he did the whole voice 480 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: thing too, like oh on the defensive lines, Like no, 481 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: what about us? And he's like, Hey, you don't like 482 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: twelve play drives. You don't like sitting over here and 483 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: catching your breath and getting ready to go out there 484 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: and pinning your ears back and going to get after 485 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: someone because the offense just had a twelve play drive. Yeah, 486 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: that's that's winning football. That's exactly what that clip is 487 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: that clip is winning football, and maybe he believes he 488 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 1: already has it. Maybe on April second, you said the date, Chris, 489 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: he thinks that McFadden in Zion and Sawyer and Pipkins 490 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: and Slater and Bozeman now and he even talked about 491 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: McFadden is potentially being a really great center. Ch that 492 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: maybe he thinks he already has it. 493 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: But if he. 494 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: Doesn't, if he doesn't think he has it, I can 495 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: tell you right now what they're gonna do, because it's 496 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: right there on that SoundBite. He in order for anything 497 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: else to work, he needs to make sure his offensive 498 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: line can be successful. So much of it is going 499 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: to come down to his evaluation. Coach Devlin, coach Hardwick's 500 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 1: evaluation of what they believe this offensive line is and 501 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: how successful it can be. And if they think it 502 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: can be successful, then we can talk about Marvin Harrison Junior. 503 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: But I think if if they don't think it can 504 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: be successful, then to me, that clip says essentially what 505 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: his football philosophy is and what likely they need to do. 506 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 3: He said, he goes he has won two, three, four, five, right, 507 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 3: so five positions on the offensive line, we don't wan 508 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 3: locked right, Rashaun Slater's locked U. There are so many 509 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 3: young guys on this roster though, money that I believe 510 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 3: like Zion Johnson Jamari saw your Trey Piftons. He mentioned 511 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 3: Jordan mcfedd and what he liked towards the back half 512 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: of the year. I firmly believe that he firmly believes 513 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 3: he can get some some more out of these young 514 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: guys and they haven't hit their potential yet. Now they 515 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: may be looking for a certain type of offensive linemen 516 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 3: that maybe not on the roster right now. And I 517 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: know it's it's easy for fans for when we talk 518 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 3: about offensive line to gravitate towards number five overall and 519 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 3: be like, oh no, no, no, no offensive I've been there. 520 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 3: But if you trade out, there's a lot of good guys, 521 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: you can get an extra pick. There's a lot of 522 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 3: depth in the second and third rounds, maybe finding your 523 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 3: future center or another just nasty guard or right tackle 524 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 3: to compliment with Shaan. So it's it's funny because when 525 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 3: you talk about offensive line, it seems like there's a 526 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 3: little bit of pushback thinking that that's gonna be the 527 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 3: pick at five, and there's really no consensus tackle at 528 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 3: the top, even though it's really deep and there's a 529 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 3: lot of potential options, but he said it right that 530 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 3: that's where it all starts, and that's how this I think. 531 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: I think the trench is too in general, that's just 532 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 3: gonna be remade. You know, he mentioned he loves he goes. 533 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 3: I'm a coach. I'm thrilled to have Joey Bosa and 534 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: I'm thrilled to have Khalil Mack. But those guys are 535 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 3: on the back nine here in l a And and 536 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 3: it's time to restock both sides of the of the lines, 537 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 3: offensive end, defensive lines. And I think you're gonna find 538 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: that the draft is going to be the number one 539 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 3: well to go to when you're addressing both of those. 540 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: You know, the one thing to remember too is it's 541 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: not a one pick draft. It's right as it stands 542 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: right now, it's a nine pick draft, and I would 543 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: assume they want to make nine, ten or eleven. We've 544 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: said that before, So remember, when it comes to their evaluation, 545 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be what is my gap? You rarely 546 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: will find and it happens. Don't get me wrong. There 547 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: are players out there that have been taken in the 548 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: third round or the second round that turn into really 549 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: really good players. But I think ultimately it's okay if 550 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: we pass on a tackle here, if if we're now 551 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: out of the alt Fishanufuaga, Latham, Mims, Guiden Business. You know, 552 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: those are the six that are expected to go in 553 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: the first round. The tackles, Okay, what are we looking 554 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: at in the second and third What are our grades 555 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: on this next tier of tackle goals compared to all right, 556 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: let's say we pass on Marvin Harrison Junior and we 557 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: miss out on Malik Neighbors and Roma Dounza and Brian Thomas, 558 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: kind of the ones that are projected to go in 559 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: the first round. What is the gap and our grades 560 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: between those guys and the names that I mentioned a 561 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: little bit earlier, and Roman Wilson and Keon Coleman and 562 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: Addie Mitchell and Troy Franklin and Xavier Get like to me, 563 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: just look at you can go year after year after year. 564 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: And again this is not my preference, understand, I'm just 565 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: pointing out how the draft works happened last year. Pouka 566 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: Nakou on the fifth, Rashi Rice in the second tank, 567 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: Dell before he got hurt in the second. Compared to 568 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba, Quinton Johnston, you know, Zay was so 569 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: was probably was the best of you know those Jordan Addison, 570 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, those were the two that were the best 571 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: of the first rounders. But were they better than Rashi Rice? 572 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: Were they better than Puka Nakua? 573 00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: You know? 574 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: And when you go year before aj Brown, DK Metcalf, like, 575 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: just go, there are a million of these guys Cooper 576 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: Cup in the third that get taken and that is 577 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: the case Keenan Allen and the third because of injury. 578 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: Like that's the thing is, you know, there are so 579 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: many of those stories at wide receiver. There are very 580 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: very very few at tackle. So that's that's the And 581 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: again I bring it up because that's the debate they're 582 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: going to be having in the room. That's what they're 583 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: going to be talking about in that room when they're 584 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: on the clock and there's a quarterback there maybe in 585 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: a team or there's a team that wants Marvin Harrison 586 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: Junior and we'll trade up and give you a haul 587 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: and you feel like, all right, well we can trade 588 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: back to X spot and still get this tackle that 589 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: that we've got this grade on and it's almost the 590 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: same grade as the wide receiver. So like that's again, 591 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: remember it's not just a one pick draft. It's not 592 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: just number five. It's what's the value of what we 593 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: think we're gonna get it thirty thirty seven, and what's 594 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: the value of our third rounder and our fourth rounder 595 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: and our two fourth rounders. Now, so that's something important 596 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: I think that you got to keep an eye on. 597 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 3: It's a great point. It's not a one pick draft. 598 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 3: It's not a one year draft either. You're not just 599 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 3: drafting for twenty twenty four. And that's the thing I 600 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: think the Ravens have been masterful at is developing players, 601 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 3: getting players maybe a year ahead of time and knowing that. Okay, 602 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 3: so for instance, let's say you let's just say the 603 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 3: Vikings trade with the Chargers and you get some picks. 604 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 3: You have eleven and twenty three. Now at eleven, Dallas 605 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 3: Turner made look pretty appealing because Khalil Mack and Joey 606 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: Bosa may not be here next year, so you pair 607 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 3: him with Tuley for the next five years. Right, there's 608 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: certain positions here, you know, Yeah, there's certain positions right 609 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: where you're set, right, now, but you're not gonna be 610 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: set in twenty twenty five or twenty twenty six, and 611 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 3: you want to have the best players you could possibly 612 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: have on your roster a quarter you mentioned, Mitchell, That's 613 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: another position that I think we should discuss. Funny because 614 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 3: right now that that corner room is incomplete as well, 615 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: I think you could kind of put that on part 616 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 3: with the wide receiver room as a work in progress. 617 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 3: And do you do you attack that in the draft. 618 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 3: You can't attack everything in the draft. I realize that, 619 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: but that is also a position that I think is 620 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 3: very important to a Jesse Minner defense that they were 621 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 3: gonna they're gonna have to address in the second and 622 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 3: third wave of free agency and then potentially in the. 623 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: Draft early no doubt, you know. And I think there's 624 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, corner is a premium corner. D end tackle 625 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: their premium positions they go high, you know, wide receiver 626 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: they go high. So what I would imagine is if 627 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: they feel like they can end up getting two premium 628 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: positions in the first round, like you said, I for 629 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: some reason, Minnesota, that's the one we have circled, I'd 630 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: be I would be floored if Arizona didn't take that deal. 631 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: If they don't get out of four to go back 632 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: to eleven and get twenty three in the process. If 633 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: somehow it works out that the Chargers are able to 634 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: do that, they'll do it in It would take less 635 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: than a second for them to say yes to that deal. 636 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: And so that's and again that's what you're talking about, Chris. 637 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: It's not just the offensive side. You got to play 638 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: defense too. You know, how how did Buffalo and how 639 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: did Baltimore stay in that game? Those playoff games with 640 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: the Chiefs with good defense, They played them well, they 641 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 1: played them tight, They made life hard on Patrick Mahomes. Defensively, 642 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: you got to have corners to slow these wide receivers down. 643 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: It's a wide receiver league. You better get someone that 644 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: can slow them down. Think about how future the Jets 645 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: offense was, and yet that defense kept them in all 646 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: these games, you know, because they've got a lockdown and absence. 647 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: You know, Sauce is a lock down corner, and they 648 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: had pass rush up front, you know, with Huff and 649 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: Quinn Williams and so that, and and yet that's a 650 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: team where they win seven games. 651 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: I think, like with that offense. 652 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: No business with that offensive line, but they did it 653 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: because they dominated defensively. So remember, there's there's so many 654 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 1: different directions they can go with this thing. And that's 655 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: why I think they would love to get more picks, 656 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: especially if they can pick up another top fifty pick. 657 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: If they can trade out of five and get two 658 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: in the top fifty, to me, that's like a that's 659 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: a jackpot for them for what they believe kind of 660 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: are a couple deep positions where they still feel like, hey, 661 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: let's not go too far back. You know, I think 662 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: you probably want to stay in like that top fifteen range, 663 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: maybe even top thirteen range, in order to get one 664 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: of those blue chips that you feel like is out 665 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: there either on the O line in the corner or 666 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: the end the d tackle and Murphy, you know, and 667 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: then pick up that extra top fifty pick and find another. 668 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 3: Starter before we go. You know, we'll dig into the 669 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 3: draft with some analysts as we get closer to April 670 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 3: twenty fifth, but I want to talk to you about 671 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 3: just this next wave or the next couple of months 672 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 3: of free agency guys who were potentially out there, whether 673 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: it be a running back. I saw you retweeted the 674 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 3: JK Dobbins news, which I think isn't very intriguing considering 675 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: the history of the Joe ortiz As with him, they 676 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 3: needed the position, But you know, corners, guys like Xavian 677 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 3: Howard is still out there, and some other guys that 678 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 3: are veterans that you know, probably towards the end of 679 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 3: their career. But somebody who could definitely fill a role, 680 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 3: to fill a need in twenty twenty four or possibly 681 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, anybody that catches your eye when it 682 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 3: comes to this current roster and what's needed at a 683 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 3: lot of different positions. 684 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you, Chris, I'm gonna take that question. 685 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna flip it on its head because one of 686 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: the things they don't need, the thing that we saw 687 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: teams scrambling to get earlier this week and the Chargers 688 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: did not have to worry about, was Corderyl Patterson. He 689 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: was the most popular free agent in the NFL the 690 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: second that kickoff rule passed. Soon as the new kickoff 691 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 1: was instituted, and you went from a twenty percent return 692 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: rate to a ninety percent return rate in the XFL 693 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: is what they have had since they used that particular 694 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: approach to kickoffs. Tip of the cap to Tom Telesco 695 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: and his staff because you know, you know what I 696 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: said about Darius Davis and the fourth I was like, Eh, 697 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: you don't really have any kick returns anymore. I mean, 698 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: it really is kind of paying a bit of a 699 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: premium for someone who we don't know how much he's 700 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: going to be used. Well, it turns out, obviously I 701 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: was way wrong on that. One guy was a monster 702 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: and punt returns returned one for a touchdown was electric 703 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: every time he touched the ball. So now to have 704 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: the player that the players voted as the best returner 705 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: in football last year on your team in a new 706 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: kickoff era where you have a ninety percent return rate 707 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: and you retain Ryan Ficken, Coach Harbaugh comes in, meets 708 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: with coach Ficken, recognizes, oh, we got one of the 709 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: best special teams coaches around. Now you're going to need 710 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: that because the whole new world out there. And so 711 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: to me, that's that is a huge benefit for the 712 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: Chargers because you're gonna see, like Xavier Worthy Stock went 713 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: through the roof, you know, with that that four two 714 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: out at the combine because of the new kickoff rules. 715 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: Because now that play is going to be put in, 716 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: you know, is going to be reintroduced. So that's that's 717 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: a big, big win for the Chargers to have Darius 718 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: Davis on this team now knowing how this is going 719 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: to work moving forward, that the kickoff is back in play. 720 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 3: He took one of the house in preseason like two 721 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 3: days before or two days after we talked to him 722 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 3: at training camp. 723 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 2: Remember that. 724 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, he's an electric. He's one of the best 725 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: in the league. And they've got him. So that's no 726 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: doubt that is. And I think, really, Chris, you know, 727 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: just when you ask, just to answer your question. Then 728 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: on top of that, I think it's gonna be more 729 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: the second wave. It's gonna be the post draft free agents. 730 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: It's gonna be the post June first cuts. That's probably 731 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: what we're I think. I think who's been signed his 732 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: and signed. You know, That's why the cord Errol Patterson 733 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: one was so funny because it just happened like that 734 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: as soon as that rule passed, that dude was signed 735 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: to a two year deal and no time at all. 736 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: But outside of that, I think you're probably still going 737 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: to see a lot of people slow playing it. You know, 738 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: the Rams took that flyer on Tredavius White with the injury, 739 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: and believe you know, have their doctors checked him out 740 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: and thought that maybe he could get this thing back together. 741 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: So if I had to guess, though, probably probably next 742 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: wave is what we're going to be waiting on. 743 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's also you know, it's really in the players, 744 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 3: the balls in the players court for a lot of 745 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 3: guys like Justin Simmons and Xavier and Howard's where they 746 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 3: it's where they want to go. It's they want to 747 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 3: win a championship. And until you want exactly quickly on 748 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 3: the Dobbins thing, well, I find him fascinating because he's 749 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 3: twenty five. Take the injury risk out of it, because 750 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 3: it is what it is. But if you take a 751 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 3: flower on a guy like that, his first year was awesome. 752 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 3: He after like over six yards of carry and since 753 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 3: then he has no Mila Jarrm. He's has one hundred 754 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 3: carries since that twenty twenty season. So you're knowing you're 755 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 3: getting a guy who's coming off a major injury, especially 756 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 3: for a running back. But if he looks as good 757 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 3: as doctor del Alas Track says, he looks and he 758 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 3: can come into camp and compete, man, Like, how about 759 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 3: getting a guy on a discount. They can give you 760 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 3: productivity that you've seen in twenty twenty and again, not 761 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 3: a lot of miles on him since then. 762 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 1: He's got juice. He has got juice. 763 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:30,479 Speaker 2: Man. 764 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: He if he's right, he's one of the best backs 765 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: in the league. Just simply put, that's what he is. 766 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: He is one of the best running backs in the 767 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 1: league if he is right, and if because the acl 768 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: and the achilles, you know, and he has just been 769 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 1: struggled with injury, if that means he's got to take 770 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: a prove it deal. What better room to take it in. 771 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, you know, we're going to run the ball. 772 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: You know what Greg Roman wants to do. You know 773 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: what Jim Harball wants to do. You know that Gus 774 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: Edwards has has always been to some degree a complimentary 775 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: back or a you know, he's not necessarily a workhorse, 776 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,919 Speaker 1: or at least he has not been. Now maybe that's 777 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: what their vision is for him, but this is this 778 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: could be your best opportunity. Like, hey, man, I know, 779 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: I know these guys know how to run the ball. 780 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,919 Speaker 1: I know that Greg Roman knows how to call run 781 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: and and I know that that Gus is a great 782 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: compliment to me because he was there the year that 783 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: I had my breakout. 784 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 2: You know. 785 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: So it's it lines up. If they're comfortable with it, 786 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 1: and if the money's right, I absolutely one hundred percent 787 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: would be all for it. Like we we've talked about 788 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: it for weeks now, so hopefully that's that's one they 789 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: can they can figure out. Now, who knows, maybe a 790 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 1: team just believes that he's going to totally be fine 791 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: and they give him a big money deal and that 792 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: takes it off the table. I could totally see that too. 793 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: I mean, look what Saquon got. The guys played. You know, 794 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: he's played like four games in two different seasons. So yeah, 795 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: never know, but but yeah, I'm all for it, all 796 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: for it, all. 797 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 3: Right, So guys, next week, we haven't done a Q 798 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 3: and A in a while with our fans, so let's call. 799 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 3: Let's let's that next week. Hit up me your money 800 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 3: on the old X or Instagram or wherever wherever you're 801 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 3: hanging out on social media, and we'll do that. Well, 802 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 3: answer some questions next week, and you know, a lot 803 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 3: to discuss as we get closer to the draft. But 804 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 3: Jim gave us a lot of great material this week, 805 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 3: and I think just further insight into what this Chargers 806 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 3: team is all about entering this season and beyond. So 807 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:26,720 Speaker 3: anything else today. 808 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: Money, that's it, man, All good. Appreciate all youse, Appreciate 809 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: all the comments on the YouTube and in the Twitter 810 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: and all that. Keep it coming, and like you said, 811 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: next week, we'll we'll get to a bunch of. 812 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 2: Them, no doubt. 813 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 3: Apologies for the audio, especially to Mad Money Smith. You 814 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 3: have no idea what he's been through for the last 815 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 3: for the first twenty minutes, and well we'll get this setup. 816 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 3: All good for next Thursday. For Matt Moddy Swift. I'm 817 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 3: Chris Herey. This has been Chargers Weekly.