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Speaker 1: hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.
Speaker 1: Thanks got Wednesday hump Day. Welcome to the show. You're
Speaker 1: looking at Wednesday, Middle of the weekday, Young lady at
Speaker 1: Costino's Championship Plos outside Ford Center in Frisco, Texas. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on with audio Chris, but something
Speaker 1: ain't right. Okay, thank you, sir. Now you're here. I
Speaker 1: get it. Looks it looks it feels like seventy nine
Speaker 1: degrees great weather side. The high is eighty five, the
Speaker 1: low tonight is sixty. You know what I just thought
Speaker 1: about on this show, We got some really we have
Speaker 1: some really great weather in Texas. As often as we've
Speaker 1: been doing this, think about the few days that we've
Speaker 1: had that it's actually been like raining ors Now, it
Speaker 1: gets hot as hell, and it'll get really cold in
Speaker 1: the winter, but like as far as like gloomy days,
Speaker 1: we don't have a lot. No, normally it's it's it's
Speaker 1: sunny and it's nice. So I don't know. But but
Speaker 1: but again, like Jesse said, we got enough folks Texas
Speaker 1: is closed. Yes, we got enough folks there. Please, So
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out before we get
Speaker 1: going on. We got a couple of things to address
Speaker 1: before we get talked. Of course we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: Jayaln So just hanging there. But before you give a
Speaker 1: shout out, I gotta I gotta give some some some thoughts,
Speaker 1: not thoughts, but prayers. There was an incident that happened
Speaker 1: this morning at Mansfield timber of Year High School. There
Speaker 1: was a school shooting this morning. Um, they didn't say
Speaker 1: that people got shot there rushed to the hospital. That
Speaker 1: didn't say anything about calcus and anything like that. So
Speaker 1: our thoughts and prayers from hanging with the boys to
Speaker 1: the students, UH, teachers and faculty at Mansfield, families and
Speaker 1: families at Mansfield timber View and Mansfield d We're you're
Speaker 1: we're thinking about you, and we hope, we hope that
Speaker 1: whoever was was shot that they they recover. Um, but
Speaker 1: that's it's it's a shame that in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: that we're still having to deal with this senseless nonsense.
Speaker 1: So our thoughts and prayers with everyone, um, the families,
Speaker 1: the students and faculties, the isds, the surrounding schools, surrounding
Speaker 1: neighborhoods that have been impacted by um that school shooting
Speaker 1: this morning. Yeah, right down the street from the stadium.
Speaker 1: Yeah so not far so. Yeah. Good, good call out, Jesse,
Speaker 1: good call out. Now, I just gotta I gotta give
Speaker 1: props to somebody. Somebody on the show had a national
Speaker 1: radio appearance today? Was that you, Kurt Jesse? Was you
Speaker 1: not this time? Was you? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Sure as hell? Was me? So that only at least
Speaker 1: one guy left that that had some national spotlight today
Speaker 1: on the network on the network, Yeah, a network. Our
Speaker 1: boy Nate had had an appearance with who was it?
Speaker 1: Keishawan and Max Will, Jay Will, Gay Will? How was it?
Speaker 1: What they want to know about to us? Great many
Speaker 1: They messed up the interview because they did not ask
Speaker 1: me what do I do for the Dallas coutbook? Because
Speaker 1: I just wanted to tell you what we had the
Speaker 1: best view, most view? What is it? What is it
Speaker 1: the most searched the most searched on YouTube podcast on
Speaker 1: the Dallas Boys Podcast Network. And I was ready. I
Speaker 1: had practiced and everything I did good man. I listened
Speaker 1: to it. You you did, You did a great job.
Speaker 1: And I didn't kill a guy. I did not didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't. You know, I'm not gonna do that. There's
Speaker 1: only one mess up. Yeah, what was that? You called
Speaker 1: the Washington football team? Yeah? Yeah, Washington football team call
Speaker 1: on the Redskins. Yeah, I'm gonna do that. I'm gone see.
Speaker 1: And I didn't want to tell him that when I
Speaker 1: called him and no, humble. I didn't want to give
Speaker 1: him I didn't want to. I didn't want to. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to give him a complex and be like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I screwed that up. No, no, because I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have thought that. Keep him humble. I canna tell
Speaker 1: you something. People are Washington bear with me. Uh, the
Speaker 1: Native Nation bear with me. It's gonna take a while,
Speaker 1: bad with me. And because the Los Angeles charge of
Speaker 1: me in the San Diego bad with me, y'all. I
Speaker 1: would get it soon or later. The Raiders we yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we get Oakland. I mean the Raiders, yeah yeah, lost
Speaker 1: and that's your team. Yeah for real, I mentioned second
Speaker 1: team yeah yeah, and one other shout out before we
Speaker 1: get going our boy. We're all representing our boy. Make
Speaker 1: sure you tune in Survivor forty one. Yeah, Survivor forty
Speaker 1: one baby, We're we're team team Danny. So that for
Speaker 1: one day, Danny, go take care of some business. So
Speaker 1: nobody do it like us though, what other show you
Speaker 1: know so puts like us? Like like literally we we
Speaker 1: we we dominate internationally, we dominated locally, and we still
Speaker 1: got enough love to be like yo, right because we're unselfish,
Speaker 1: the most unselfish giving shows that believe me, we did
Speaker 1: not get these free, no, and we paid, We paid
Speaker 1: for these, like that's the support that we're on. We like,
Speaker 1: we asked for no freebes, like we support our people.
Speaker 1: Actually we did, we did, we did, so we did
Speaker 1: act for free. You know what he had. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he won. I lost, but the way he
Speaker 1: made it when we asked for free, like, huh, I
Speaker 1: need support. So like, okay, he tried to get that
Speaker 1: million plus he tried. You know, they give you that million,
Speaker 1: they still tach you on that million. Yeah, So I
Speaker 1: don't know if he won lost, but we had to
Speaker 1: pay for our shirts. That's a great point, great indication.
Speaker 1: Maybe Danny didn't win. Tune in, tune in to night though.
Speaker 1: See if he advances to week I guess it'll be
Speaker 1: week three or four. Now how many weeks students go
Speaker 1: before the three three? This is week three? It goes
Speaker 1: what like two months? Chris, Yeah, just like ten episodes
Speaker 1: or something like that. It's a long time. He hasn't
Speaker 1: been his team, He or his team hasn't been to
Speaker 1: the Little the Hut because they keep winning all the challenge.
Speaker 1: They keep winning all the challenges. So what how much
Speaker 1: clothes do they have on wrong show? So here's a
Speaker 1: funny that show. But Danny's right. Black people do always
Speaker 1: count to survivr. I was talking to my mother on
Speaker 1: the way in this morning and now she was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we her and I watched the Mask and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, mom, you know we might have
Speaker 1: to record it because my friends on Survivors, so we'll
Speaker 1: be watching Survivors. Tell my son is he naked? Said no,
Speaker 1: he's not naked. Talking about something? Now, this is this
Speaker 1: is true. Mother taught something. Well, damn, I thought I
Speaker 1: don't get some excitement. That show that is the wrong show.
Speaker 1: Stop Black People Survivor and naked in the phrase are
Speaker 1: not the show. Yes, Danny's not gonna be naked. I
Speaker 1: don't know why my mother wants to see Danny anyway,
Speaker 1: but is called cougar Shop. And then the last thing
Speaker 1: before before we talk football. Nate and I are hosting
Speaker 1: cross Talk again tonight, and we got the great Drew
Speaker 1: Pearson on the show, so we won't get a word
Speaker 1: in edgewise, especially in trouble. They'd be easy show for us.
Speaker 1: We just go to the brakes and go home. So
Speaker 1: all right, fellas, let's talk about it. Completely caught me
Speaker 1: off guard. I don't think anybody, I mean, y'all tell me,
Speaker 1: did anybody see this coming? When it did? Not? Now,
Speaker 1: I think the timing, yeah, seven months ago, i'd have
Speaker 1: been like, oh yeah, absolutely, or maybe from now yeah
Speaker 1: right now? Like why now? Is my question? All right,
Speaker 1: let's go straight to the fact. I'm not gonna play
Speaker 1: around with this thing. We got we got football to
Speaker 1: talk about. Actually, like the people who on this team,
Speaker 1: we all know what Jalen is as a football player,
Speaker 1: and that's that's in the last couple years has not
Speaker 1: been a good one. Jalen is a great story, like
Speaker 1: great phenomenal story. Most people said that he wasn't supposed
Speaker 1: to play football ever again, his injury a lot of
Speaker 1: times leads to amputation. So for him to be able
Speaker 1: to get back on the field and all the work
Speaker 1: that he'd done in the community helping out with financial
Speaker 1: literay so so, so it's not like a compliment sandwich.
Speaker 1: But then we're not gonna back him on the other end.
Speaker 1: But here is here's the logistics of it. Jalen didn't
Speaker 1: pan out to what they were going to think thought
Speaker 1: he was going to be. They took a shot, it
Speaker 1: didn't work out, and Jalen was playing bad football. Hence
Speaker 1: why his role was reduced as significantly as it was.
Speaker 1: He's already missed a hundred and something snaps this seasons.
Speaker 1: He didn't he missed that many snaps two seasons combined.
Speaker 1: We're in Week four, so in an entire two seasons,
Speaker 1: he's already missed snaps on the field that he hasn't
Speaker 1: done in the last two years. But here's how it
Speaker 1: breaks down. Why now, well, people say, well, we could
Speaker 1: did this in the off season, Well, you actually couldn't.
Speaker 1: Because Jellen had things in this contract where if he's injured,
Speaker 1: and this is a smart play by his agent, well
Speaker 1: done agent, whoever his agent was last year. And you
Speaker 1: see a lot of guys do this when they say, well,
Speaker 1: why are you wait along to get surgery? Well, Jalen
Speaker 1: had in this contract that if I'm injured, you can't
Speaker 1: cut me, and my salary is guaranteed. What did Jayalen
Speaker 1: have last season? He had clean up risk surgery, probably
Speaker 1: something that's not invasive, probably something that you wait till
Speaker 1: you wait right up until the timeline and when it
Speaker 1: kind of gets just done so that even if they
Speaker 1: tried to give you a physical, you wouldn't pass the physical.
Speaker 1: So therefore, this year's contract was guaranteed no matter what.
Speaker 1: Coming into the draft, you didn't know what you're going
Speaker 1: to get out of Michael Parsons. You hoped it was
Speaker 1: a hope. Same thing for Kean O'Neil, same thing for
Speaker 1: Jabrille Coxon, any other player that you brought to this
Speaker 1: football team. With the combination of Dan Quinn, you had
Speaker 1: hoped that it was going to be something that was
Speaker 1: what we're seeing right now. Then you get to the
Speaker 1: season and Michael Parson turns out to be a beast.
Speaker 1: Keyan O'Neill turns out to be healthy and is playing well,
Speaker 1: and you're bringing jabirol Cox along and you have other
Speaker 1: players playing well. So it comes to the point now
Speaker 1: is next year when the contract is bigger. It's like
Speaker 1: nine points something seven million dollars, nine guaranteed if he's injured.
Speaker 1: So if you prolong this season and he didn't have
Speaker 1: to have a catastrophic injury during the season, but what
Speaker 1: he can do is when he gets to that that
Speaker 1: deadline again, So you know what, I think I need
Speaker 1: to get my knee scoped, and now I want to
Speaker 1: get his knee scoped. And he can't pass the physical
Speaker 1: by a certain date because I'm sure as agent will
Speaker 1: tell him, no, no, we're gonna have that surgery two
Speaker 1: weeks before that date is done or week before that
Speaker 1: day is done. So you purposely can't pass your physical,
Speaker 1: and then now the Cowboys are on the hood no
Speaker 1: matter what, for nine point two million dollars. So you
Speaker 1: just say, you know what, you're not being very productive.
Speaker 1: We want to DMP you. We like what Jabrill has done,
Speaker 1: we like we love what uh well Kean O'Neil has done.
Speaker 1: We super love what Michael Parsons has done. Let's do
Speaker 1: you and us a favor. Let's just cut our losses.
Speaker 1: Whatever money you get, there's just seven million or whatever.
Speaker 1: He gets, whatever he gets, and and and and caveat
Speaker 1: is if he just if he somehow Someway signs with
Speaker 1: another team, whatever he signs for at that team gets
Speaker 1: deducted from what the Cowboys owe him. Most likely no
Speaker 1: one's going to sign him for more than a VET
Speaker 1: minimum because they know the Cowboys still owe him money.
Speaker 1: And so you know they're going like, well, you're already
Speaker 1: getting paid from the Cowboys, and he and he doesn't
Speaker 1: have a bunch of suitors that are going out to
Speaker 1: want to get him, right, It's like like people aren't
Speaker 1: racing to the to the Jaylen Smith store to pick
Speaker 1: up a Jayless Smith. You don't think. So, I think
Speaker 1: he'll be signed quick. But you know what, you try
Speaker 1: to crack a joke, right, But I think he'll be signed. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: but the thing is, I like, if a ton of
Speaker 1: people are wanting to sign him, it drives the price up.
Speaker 1: So but I doubt I doubt it. The Cowboys last
Speaker 1: year and this year, tried to trade for him, was
Speaker 1: willing to take anything, just take him, give us a
Speaker 1: six seven whatever, and no one budge. So I think
Speaker 1: he'll land on his feet eventually. I don't think people
Speaker 1: are racing to grab Jayleen Smith. Um. So that's where
Speaker 1: we're at on the Jaylen Smith deal. I think we
Speaker 1: all agree that this was going to happen. We thought
Speaker 1: either this offseason, last offeason, this upcoming off season. The
Speaker 1: timing was a surprise to all of us. But they
Speaker 1: gave jay Like the respectable part is he gets his
Speaker 1: money for the rest of this year, and you still
Speaker 1: get a chance to go out there and find another home.
Speaker 1: It's still earlier in a year. And if it doesn't
Speaker 1: happen this week or next week, it's a long season.
Speaker 1: People get hurt, teams looking for play, guys get banged up.
Speaker 1: So and then it gives you a chance to kind
Speaker 1: of get a footing for the neck for the off season,
Speaker 1: because if you keep putting bad film out there and
Speaker 1: you keep getting DMPs or less snaps, that doesn't help
Speaker 1: your value. That didn't help your value going Toto dolls
Speaker 1: because people are gonna say, well, hell, the cowboys who
Speaker 1: drafted you and gave you a contact extension. They don't
Speaker 1: want you. There must be something, and you're healthy. There
Speaker 1: might be something deeper than the situation. So cutting him
Speaker 1: now gives him an opportunity to find a new home,
Speaker 1: and hopefully that he does and he bounces back. My only,
Speaker 1: my only laugh at the Jaalen situation is my people,
Speaker 1: My people, Jalen spits spent the half a million dollars
Speaker 1: to getting number nine. Yeah, somebody's texted me then said
Speaker 1: that was and they only got to wear for four
Speaker 1: games half a million dollars. I get it. I ain't
Speaker 1: count love them is money, but I don't care what
Speaker 1: the money. You make half a million and a half
Speaker 1: a million, half a million, half a million and it's gone.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's gonna do it the number
Speaker 1: nine chain, Maybe I'll turn that back in and get
Speaker 1: the diamonds and the gold melted down or whatever. But
Speaker 1: got a little bit smart. What the money? So I
Speaker 1: think this is a purely financial move. I mean, like
Speaker 1: you said, the Cowboys got him before that he could
Speaker 1: get them. Yep. And so you know in this day
Speaker 1: and age with Kobe, because he got he got him
Speaker 1: last offseason. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean this day and age.
Speaker 1: I mean, you Neil already missed two games because of COVID.
Speaker 1: The depth is there. I mean, yes, he's not the
Speaker 1: player he once was, but for a few snaps, you know,
Speaker 1: being that backup guy, being a guy who came in
Speaker 1: for a few snaps. And you know, we've talked about
Speaker 1: being really good for twenty percent of the snaps and
Speaker 1: you suck at sixty percent of the snaps. Maybe that
Speaker 1: was his role now, I mean sucking. I just well,
Speaker 1: I just don't think that he was that bad a
Speaker 1: guy to cut him because of a guy or a
Speaker 1: player that bad of a player that you cut him
Speaker 1: for performance reasons. Giving you need depth, you need with
Speaker 1: the COVID situation, all that kind of stuff. I think
Speaker 1: this is all find a fat player, the overweight player,
Speaker 1: the player that's out of shaping, the player that can't
Speaker 1: can't play as the same player. Yeah. I think I
Speaker 1: think this team the big picture. This team is saying
Speaker 1: we like what we have going forward. Yeah, and and
Speaker 1: and for for us it's like I say, for us,
Speaker 1: but for the Cowboys, it's more so of big picture.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be here. You see that name just
Speaker 1: he coming over to the dark side. He said us
Speaker 1: for us a professional who steps up in his role. Though,
Speaker 1: Jabril Cox, I think, Jabril Cox, there we go again.
Speaker 1: Is he ready for it? He better be. We're gonna
Speaker 1: find that. But but here's how you find out. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: you find out now. And and I hope that this
Speaker 1: is a is a wake up call for Jabril Cox.
Speaker 1: If you weren't ready, I think you say, all right,
Speaker 1: here's my chance because they need dan Quinn this, this
Speaker 1: entire defense needs to know where are we going forward?
Speaker 1: And it wasn't Jaylen Smith like you drafted Micah and Jabrill.
Speaker 1: When you made those two draft picks, it was a
Speaker 1: it was a knock at the door to Jalen and
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh when you didn't give late in that contract.
Speaker 1: That when you didn't pick up his fifth year option
Speaker 1: and you drafted two linebackers, that was a that was screaming.
Speaker 1: I blame Joe Brady for doing what he did because
Speaker 1: he forced him to put this kid back at linebacker.
Speaker 1: So you had Laton over here, I mean she had
Speaker 1: Laton in the middle and the other two kids young
Speaker 1: kids playing and they're like, wow, this is this is
Speaker 1: this is our future? What better way didn't start? Now?
Speaker 1: You re asked this to our pro personnel guy doing
Speaker 1: the during the summer. Remember, I said, what happens if
Speaker 1: Jabrille shows you're enough in training camp that he can
Speaker 1: he can play, just enough to get him on the field,
Speaker 1: what do you do during the season with your veterans?
Speaker 1: This is the answer, man, this along with the money. See,
Speaker 1: you're smart by what you did cleaning up your wrist.
Speaker 1: You got your money, but you didn't play during the preseason.
Speaker 1: You let your real play during the preseason. You had
Speaker 1: Luke Gifford played during the preseason. Neil knew, knew the defense.
Speaker 1: He lines people up better front end, back. It's nowhere.
Speaker 1: It's nowhere. He won except he got his money. He's
Speaker 1: where else did he win? You didn't play during the preseason?
Speaker 1: That a few times they'll put you in there. Uh,
Speaker 1: the last show did a great job. He either fourth
Speaker 1: leading tackler tackler. We've been talking about this for three
Speaker 1: years now. He's a great open field, down the field tackler.
Speaker 1: But in every sacks, hurries, fumbles, recoveries, interception, he is zero.
Speaker 1: What the tangible plays? What do he give you in
Speaker 1: a tangible way. What does he give you if you
Speaker 1: gotta give the team something that equals He has no pluses.
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna kill this kid. I went to
Speaker 1: this kid before this offseason. Hey man, give us something
Speaker 1: the positive to talk about. We need to see that
Speaker 1: guy we saw three years ago. Hey man, you got me.
Speaker 1: You know he's never treated the media bad, He's never
Speaker 1: treated nobody bad. You walk up to him right now.
Speaker 1: He's a good dude. He's a good dude. But this
Speaker 1: is the business. But that lost his skills. The injury
Speaker 1: took away his skills. And as the league get bigger,
Speaker 1: better and faster and more focused on what you can't do.
Speaker 1: It's like every time he went out there, if it
Speaker 1: could have been a first down run, they oh, there's Jalen.
Speaker 1: Oh that's he gonna match it what I tight in
Speaker 1: coming out on this side, receive over here, slot back
Speaker 1: over here, that's running back out of the back fielding
Speaker 1: on the wheel route. That's going to leave him the
Speaker 1: number one Guess what who can he run with? I'm
Speaker 1: not kidding any kid. Time was up Fellas. There was
Speaker 1: a theory out there that he you know, he signed
Speaker 1: early he signed that big contract early maybe you know,
Speaker 1: and part of that was because he knew then he
Speaker 1: might not hold up for a long time, so he
Speaker 1: signed early to get it. I just feel like this man,
Speaker 1: he got his money. Man, you just do got he
Speaker 1: did it right, you know, Yeah, he got his money.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys offer it. I guess they were trying to
Speaker 1: I don't know what they were trying to do. What
Speaker 1: that was, you know, hey, play this cat and mouse
Speaker 1: game with who was it was a zeke zeke? They
Speaker 1: trying to play, like hey, because I remember Stephen saying, well,
Speaker 1: whatever is left over is left over us. We'll give
Speaker 1: and they kind of like dangled the fruit in front
Speaker 1: of Jalen and then it was like thank you, and
Speaker 1: he snatched it and took it. So hey, you know
Speaker 1: again the cowboys said, a fool me once, you fool
Speaker 1: me again when you got the risk surgery. You won't
Speaker 1: fool me three times in a row. Just real quick.
Speaker 1: I don't want to spend any more time on this,
Speaker 1: and we have to. But what does this do because
Speaker 1: we gotta get a break, what does this due to
Speaker 1: the locker room? Nothing? Does it put guys on the others?
Speaker 1: Does it dude, nothing nothing, nothing business And this is business.
Speaker 1: This is business, guys, this is this is business. And honestly,
Speaker 1: like Jalen isn't a big enough of a player and
Speaker 1: contributor to kind of you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: if anything, it's more so of Okay, finally because because
Speaker 1: because if if I, if Nate can put on the
Speaker 1: film and watch and I'm like, Jesus Christ, what are
Speaker 1: they saying in the meeting room you talk about like
Speaker 1: what is it? Does? It actually makes the meeting makes
Speaker 1: locker room a little bit more happy because they're saying,
Speaker 1: we watch film for the last four weeks and coaches
Speaker 1: putting out like they know what they're watching, and they're like, dude,
Speaker 1: how are you You're supposed to be an a gap?
Speaker 1: What the hell are you doing over here in the
Speaker 1: sea gap? Why are you running this way? We're going
Speaker 1: this way. So when you're release him, you go okay.
Speaker 1: Finally we get into a place now where coaches are saying,
Speaker 1: because if I'm a player, if I'm Jibril Cox, and
Speaker 1: I'm saying I am just as good as him, why
Speaker 1: the hell does he keep getting the opportunities and I don't?
Speaker 1: And we watch film weekend and week out, and you
Speaker 1: showed me every weekend that the guy who's playing in
Speaker 1: front of me can't It's just like Polar last year,
Speaker 1: can't get there. It's just like pol last year. It's
Speaker 1: just it's the same exact thing you're telling Gallimore. You know, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you know really, like how do you explain that to
Speaker 1: a player? Like how do you sit in the meeting
Speaker 1: room where you when you go, Michael, what a hell
Speaker 1: of a play? Jalen, where are you going? Like you
Speaker 1: can't keep you can't kind it sends a message other guys.
Speaker 1: I mean because jal was a it's kind of a
Speaker 1: let's get off of that. It's been around a while,
Speaker 1: does it send a message other guys like we ain't
Speaker 1: gonna put up with? But I think guys know that,
Speaker 1: like you, you have to understand know the business of it.
Speaker 1: Like dead Quinn has had no loyalties. I didn't draft you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this don't go out my resume. This don't go to the
Speaker 1: the players that I busted on. All right, let's go
Speaker 1: to break. Mister Roger. I hope you keep listening to
Speaker 1: the show. We loved, We loved your son as as
Speaker 1: a as a human being as a person. I just
Speaker 1: feel bad, man, I feel bad. He's good. He's a
Speaker 1: really good dude, like not solid guy, like he's a
Speaker 1: great person. But this is at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you have to separate good people and good business. Great
Speaker 1: person for the community to all of us, and the
Speaker 1: giant the giants here, man, I don't know what they're doing,
Speaker 1: but for business, it just wasn't. It wasn't working out
Speaker 1: for business. We're gonna find out what the giants are
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Speaker 1: a survivor. I'm a survivor. S I got turned this
Speaker 1: volume down. All right, let's talk about Cowboys. Stop shots,
Speaker 1: I little silence shots you'd be taking. Man. I called
Speaker 1: Jesse last night, right, said, Jesse, what's going on? Can
Speaker 1: you get with you now? Man? With my girls volleyball team,
Speaker 1: we out of town. I'll call you back. He called
Speaker 1: me at one o'clock in the morning. Did you no,
Speaker 1: I did that? I lie? Jesse grabman like quick, ye
Speaker 1: lie a lie. He left me on the porch. I
Speaker 1: felt so lonely I spun the block, though I came
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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about this same team, same stadium,
Speaker 1: same time. What is it three hundred and sixty four days,
Speaker 1: like almost the exact day that Dak got hurt last year?
Speaker 1: Did y'all know that? Let me be on the record
Speaker 1: of saying this. I didn't say this, So if anything
Speaker 1: happens in this game, it's not on You're putting it
Speaker 1: on you. I'm just stating the facts that that that's
Speaker 1: the snake bitten side of the table over there. Putting
Speaker 1: that out there. Is that add a little extra Is
Speaker 1: that gonna add a little extra mental pressure on on
Speaker 1: Dak this week? I mean, we all know he's one
Speaker 1: of the strongest mental athletes that have ever played football
Speaker 1: or maybe any sport. But that's gotta on the way
Speaker 1: to the stadium, you got to be thinking about, man,
Speaker 1: this is when it happened. Is that? Is that gonna
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a hmm? I hope not.
Speaker 1: I've never had a major injury like that, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad because to think about that, I don't know how
Speaker 1: it would happen. I hope not. Yeah, I hope not.
Speaker 1: I hope is just like, man, wow, this is the
Speaker 1: same time it happened. Almost, Okay, game day, let's go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping like once he gets into the stadium and
Speaker 1: he's like, all right, that thought's past me. Let's go play. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It sounds like, well it was the first last home
Speaker 1: game or the first home game. He was saying that
Speaker 1: during the anthem. It kind of hit him a little bit,
Speaker 1: but then it was game time, so like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's like you said, he's so strong mentally rolling all right,
Speaker 1: giants having allowed a point yet in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: Dallas leads the league with ten and a half points
Speaker 1: per game in the first quarter, our fourth and third quarter.
Speaker 1: What is this, Kurt? Is that is that kind of
Speaker 1: the key to the success? They've been really good in
Speaker 1: the third quarter, coming out too, at least especially last time.
Speaker 1: Is it is that the script? Is it the just
Speaker 1: ready to roll? I mean, is that the key to
Speaker 1: this success? Is it getting off the good starts out
Speaker 1: of the Brakes who did some about it the Cowboys? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean when you have offense like this and then
Speaker 1: the defensive giving them a few turnovers gotten people off
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, you want to score first. That's why
Speaker 1: I've always wanted the Cowboys. When you got this much offense,
Speaker 1: I wanted the ball first. Everybody like, no, that the
Speaker 1: first stuff that happens when you know, and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying our defense has arrived, but when our offense score first,
Speaker 1: that automatically makes the other team. Coordinator said, we got
Speaker 1: we got a matching point for point, and if you
Speaker 1: don't and we score again, that give us nine points ahead.
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying a touchdown with three, that's hard
Speaker 1: to beat us. Man, that's hard to beat us. So
Speaker 1: now most teams were they're keep running the ball, keep
Speaker 1: trying to be hard, like you know they did last Carolina,
Speaker 1: kept trying to run the ball. But like Jesse said,
Speaker 1: when they missed that field goal and gave us that
Speaker 1: extra thump, it was like they finned throw the rock.
Speaker 1: And that's where we want Jones at now. He lit
Speaker 1: it up against these other guys, this New Orleans team,
Speaker 1: but everywhere else he ain't did it so good. He
Speaker 1: ain't did it so good. So if our offense go first,
Speaker 1: specially we can get nine to fourteen points. There's a
Speaker 1: rat bro because I don't know the Giants defense, they
Speaker 1: just they they're planning. They got six acts they lined up, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they planning. They got six acts. They got two interceptions,
Speaker 1: Bradberry got I think one or two. And you know
Speaker 1: Leonard got a sack and it's a Zia or Jilea
Speaker 1: he has three. So they just playing, man, they ain't.
Speaker 1: I mean, they gave one hundred and seventy yards rushing
Speaker 1: one game, one hundred and sixty they stopped. I can't
Speaker 1: figure them out. I'm sorry, I'm and I'm I promise you.
Speaker 1: I'm beating the film down, trying to say last week
Speaker 1: we could give you guys, coaches, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Can't figure like there because they'reing, okay, but you don't
Speaker 1: they just planning. They just playing. The Giants are bad football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I don't want and you always, even as a player,
Speaker 1: you're trying to find an angle that we can give
Speaker 1: the fans. And you know I've been hanging around yes
Speaker 1: too long. I can't. It's hard for me to lie.
Speaker 1: Why are they so bad? They're bad? Bad head coach
Speaker 1: uh bat oc bat DC. They don't have players like
Speaker 1: they the How did they get in that situation? Because
Speaker 1: I mean they drafted sae Quon, you had Sterling Shepherd,
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, you thought he was he showed some promises.
Speaker 1: Don't pan out again. You got a left tick of
Speaker 1: this shaky right once again, you got rid of flowers
Speaker 1: out there five or six years now, you were washing it.
Speaker 1: But you go out and you get this other kid.
Speaker 1: He's shaky. He was shaky in New England. Yeah, Nate
Speaker 1: Soldier is old. He old as Union. Yeah, he old
Speaker 1: Kenny Golla day. Maybe he was injured earlier in the year,
Speaker 1: but he's not even in leading to receive it. He
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a big boy guy. And then
Speaker 1: Shepherd missed the last game. He's still the leading receiver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I know. I'll say this offensively. Football is about
Speaker 1: a game of possessions. One can I get more possessions
Speaker 1: than you? Two? What do I do with the possessions
Speaker 1: that I actually get? Am I putting up touchdown with
Speaker 1: those possessions? Kurt? You asked a question about is that
Speaker 1: the formula? Yeah? The formula is when I get the ball,
Speaker 1: I want to score. Yeah. Like that's a great formulae,
Speaker 1: like like like running the running the game, and that's
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys have been kind of putting together these
Speaker 1: last couple of games and not put so much pressure
Speaker 1: on the opposing defense because once I got you, I
Speaker 1: got you. You know I got you, I know I
Speaker 1: got you, the players know I got you. Then we
Speaker 1: just toy with you for the rest of the game.
Speaker 1: But what it also does for the opposing team's off
Speaker 1: it says, it makes them one dimensional. If I can
Speaker 1: get out early and score a touchdown and you gotta
Speaker 1: pun it to me and I go down score another
Speaker 1: touchdown or another field goal. Now like Nate would saying,
Speaker 1: I'm up nine, ten, thirteen, seventeen, fourteen points. Now what
Speaker 1: happens is that script that you had those first fifteen
Speaker 1: plays and that approach that you were gonna go that
Speaker 1: that's done because now you're saying, all right, guys, well,
Speaker 1: whatever we had planned, we no longer could do it
Speaker 1: because we're down fourteen and that clock is moving. Those
Speaker 1: prosessions are getting smaller and smaller, and we have to
Speaker 1: find ways now to generate points. So for us is
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, we want to make sure that we come
Speaker 1: out and get the ball first, drive it down their throat.
Speaker 1: What I want Daniel Jones to go into passing mode. Oh,
Speaker 1: if the Lord, here's my prayers. I would love for
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones to go to a pass only mold one
Speaker 1: they don't have. Yeah, Kenny Golladay is a big play guy,
Speaker 1: but I don't I don't trust Daniel Dimes to beat
Speaker 1: me in the air. He's gonna throw interceptions. We all
Speaker 1: know it. I think he has forty fumbles in the
Speaker 1: last two years. I like my guys getting around the corner,
Speaker 1: creating some pressure on on the Giants defense. And we've
Speaker 1: we've I think we've done a really good job, Nate.
Speaker 1: When we watch film and break down film and try
Speaker 1: to give film the fans something to kind of hold
Speaker 1: on to this game. We did it with Tampa. We
Speaker 1: did it with the Chargers, we did it with Philly, Um,
Speaker 1: we did it with Carolina. I'm struggle. I'm struggling, like
Speaker 1: I am, I am, I am. I'm telling you when
Speaker 1: you put this film on, I am struggling. I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, Jess, find something that you can give the
Speaker 1: fan like I'm concerned about this, y'all. Like Jimmy told us,
Speaker 1: there's nothing on defense and the only I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: you finish. The only thing that I can think of
Speaker 1: that can be a concern is that when the other
Speaker 1: players for the Cowboys watch this film, they don't have
Speaker 1: the same post that I have. Is that they're saying, man,
Speaker 1: this team is booty juice. And then they and then
Speaker 1: they go into this game, like they go into this
Speaker 1: game thinking that they just booty juice, and that's just
Speaker 1: what's gonna be. I'm I'm I'm guys, I'm telling you
Speaker 1: this is a bad football team. Is there anyone that
Speaker 1: you like? Leonard Williams, But I'm gonna take Bury's He's
Speaker 1: he's okay, He's okay. But I like if they put
Speaker 1: him on number nineteen game. I like my chances. I
Speaker 1: like my chances a lot. They have no one and see,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the bottom of the They have
Speaker 1: no one can stick Willson. No one can stick Wilson
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have to cover nineteen. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to cover a the Yeah, big play waiting to happen.
Speaker 1: He don't drop the ball. He's very consistent. Uh God,
Speaker 1: Lee Fellas, what happened? Blake Martinez, He's still tackling. He
Speaker 1: was hurt last game. He was hurt. He's out. Okay,
Speaker 1: I knew I saw him in film earlier, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew I saw him film earlier that had them.
Speaker 1: But I'm looking forward to see it. I love Blake Martin.
Speaker 1: He's Blake Martinez. Needs to go to Carolina like he
Speaker 1: fits at Carolina. Just a football playing dude, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Doesn't fit with the Giants. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: break Blake when he wasn't playing too well. You know why,
Speaker 1: because it's trash around him. Thank you, will be right back.
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Speaker 1: and now our favorite time of the week seven minutes,
Speaker 1: six and a half minutes Kurt's corner. What you got, Kurt, Well,
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, I was doing a little research on
Speaker 1: our third downs. About damn time you had some research
Speaker 1: on the show. Just need to do something right here.
Speaker 1: I was surprised. I want to get kind of get
Speaker 1: what you guys think right now? On third downs? Their
Speaker 1: yards to go average is only five point three eight
Speaker 1: yards to go on third down? Who is this? Us?
Speaker 1: The Cowboys? Which profitball focus? Going back? They only have
Speaker 1: stats back to nineteen ninety four. That's the smallest this
Speaker 1: team has ever finished with. They've never been under six
Speaker 1: yards to go on third down before? Wow? What's bringing this?
Speaker 1: Is it just so many weapons? I can't stop it?
Speaker 1: Is it Kellen Moore's play calling? What all of that? Man?
Speaker 1: What kind of difference does that make? Oh? That man?
Speaker 1: I legit explain that outter He Twinnish tweeting. He don't
Speaker 1: even listening. He's listening. He's listening. He's ready to talk.
Speaker 1: You don't know what Kurt said, have no idea what
Speaker 1: kurts no ideas? And the reason being because I let
Speaker 1: I let this Twitter troll kind of get to me,
Speaker 1: like he's trying to tell me about getting this gat responsibilities,
Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, I'm sorry. You were
Speaker 1: much better. You were much better to be around when
Speaker 1: you weren't on Twitter. I know, get Kurt, they got you,
Speaker 1: but you got to show them now pregame, postcam show.
Speaker 1: They they made you get back on Twitter. Yeah, gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta make money somehow. Yards to go on third
Speaker 1: yards to guard. Our average yards to go this year
Speaker 1: on third down is five point three eight yards. Never
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Focus only has stats going back to
Speaker 1: ninety four. This team has never finished a season under six.
Speaker 1: But that's a pretty big jump. And what kind of
Speaker 1: is that Kellen Moore's wizardry? No, it's yes and no. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Kellen some credit. No is I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start giving Dak a lot of credit. Let's go because
Speaker 1: him respect that being able to And this is what
Speaker 1: makes the greats great? Is am I getting my team
Speaker 1: in the right play every single chance I get now?
Speaker 1: And here's a difference. Getting them in the right play
Speaker 1: and the right play actually being successful is two different things,
Speaker 1: because you can be in the right play, make the
Speaker 1: right reads and still not have success. But what you
Speaker 1: want to do is I want to be in the
Speaker 1: right play more often than I am not, because there
Speaker 1: are time when you could be in the wrong play
Speaker 1: and still have success. But percentages say, if you're in
Speaker 1: the wrong play and you have sex success once, do
Speaker 1: you just say some sex, some sex once, You're probably
Speaker 1: not gonna have sex the next time. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: So I think the biggest thing is that at a
Speaker 1: maturity level where he comes to the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: and they're not We're not just lining up and saying, okay,
Speaker 1: the first done, We're gonna line up twelve percent, We're
Speaker 1: gonna have the ball off the zaken, he's gonna run
Speaker 1: in the back of the guys and now we're gonna
Speaker 1: be in second and ten again and get So they're
Speaker 1: having a much greater um growth and yard is gained
Speaker 1: because they're in the right place on first down. That
Speaker 1: is the key, and my staying ahead of the change
Speaker 1: meaning and my getting positive yards on first down, and
Speaker 1: that can be four yards, five yards, or am I
Speaker 1: moving forward, not that I'm going incomplete or loss of
Speaker 1: yards or no game at all, because that does mean
Speaker 1: no good. So getting to third down and having less
Speaker 1: than five five and less yards to go means I
Speaker 1: did a damn good jobs on first down more often
Speaker 1: than I didn't, and I think a lot of credit
Speaker 1: goes to Dak Prescott coming to the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: and getting them in the right play. Again. The right
Speaker 1: play doesn't mean success all the time because they they
Speaker 1: you know again, right play, God dropped it, whatever it
Speaker 1: may be. But getting in the right play more often
Speaker 1: than not on first down is a huge testament to
Speaker 1: where Dak Prescott is as a quarterback. No matter what
Speaker 1: kelle Moore come calls in, I got a quarterback that's
Speaker 1: gonna get me there and get us there as a unit.
Speaker 1: More often than not he's on first down. Dak's completing
Speaker 1: eighty percent of his passes for nine point seven yards
Speaker 1: an attempt. So that so that leaves you now second
Speaker 1: and one, second and one or two right give or
Speaker 1: take second to five. So if I get the third down,
Speaker 1: I'm third to four thirty five, third and three. I
Speaker 1: like my chances. You got two minutes, Kurt, that you
Speaker 1: know you're talking about Dak first down, the start of
Speaker 1: a series. We were just talking litlarly about the start
Speaker 1: of the game, first quarter or coming out to is
Speaker 1: that all is the team's overall preparation better. Now you
Speaker 1: think yes and yes, yes and yes, yes and yes
Speaker 1: and yes, because I always think you play your strength,
Speaker 1: you know, and in the strength is our offense. And
Speaker 1: last year that when I went to hell in a
Speaker 1: hand basketball know the offensive line. Then with Dak, like
Speaker 1: you say that famous word you'd like to use when
Speaker 1: you know we don't have Dak, we screwed. But now
Speaker 1: you got Dak, why would you talk We're gonna defer
Speaker 1: now if our defense continue to play the way they
Speaker 1: are playing, I'm still I still want to. Then some teams,
Speaker 1: very few you say, okay, we're the first. Some team,
Speaker 1: but the majority them, we just we punish him from
Speaker 1: day one, from snap one, we fall out of the
Speaker 1: plane punishing. Why do they defer so much? If they
Speaker 1: did that last year, they I don't think they're doing
Speaker 1: it this year. They ain't. Wonder they ain't won it,
Speaker 1: and they're like, okay, we'll get it, we'll stop your offense.
Speaker 1: Really really come on, but let's see you do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now I'm a survivor. They're also averaging six point two
Speaker 1: yards per first down on rushing yards per first down.
Speaker 1: So but but that again, that goes back into getting
Speaker 1: the guys in the right call. If it's a pass,
Speaker 1: it's fast. If it's a run, it's a run. How
Speaker 1: do we dictate that? Well, I can call whatever I
Speaker 1: want to call killing, call whatever he wants to call,
Speaker 1: Call whatever you want to call. But when I break
Speaker 1: the huddle, what does the defense say? And they've been
Speaker 1: saying we're not We're not just lining up. We're aggressively
Speaker 1: taking what the defense gives us. So if you're gonna
Speaker 1: give us run, we're gonna aggressively take the run. If
Speaker 1: if you're showing a pass set, if you're showing a
Speaker 1: pass defense, then we're gonna aggressively take the pass, not
Speaker 1: just say hey here, No, we're gonna attack. Oh there's
Speaker 1: a play boom We're going. And now you have so
Speaker 1: many guys. I mean, I haven't looked at the numbers,
Speaker 1: but in the last the four games of this season,
Speaker 1: I would say, and again I haven't looked till it.
Speaker 1: Like your role, Jesse, I haven't looked, but I think
Speaker 1: Dak is average at least two targets to five different
Speaker 1: receivers every game. Yeah, I would say like five or
Speaker 1: six different guys have caught two passes or more in
Speaker 1: about every single game this season. That says a lot.
Speaker 1: When you got Tony Pollard, Zekiel Elliott, Amari Cooper, Ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson, Dalton Scholtz, and Blake Darwin, and you get
Speaker 1: five or six receivers that are catching at least two
Speaker 1: passes at least two passes a game, and you got
Speaker 1: two guys who will probably get in ten or more
Speaker 1: targets a game. Come on, because it's tough. It's a
Speaker 1: tough deal. It's a tough deal. Not the that's that's
Speaker 1: the that's the gift that Keller Moore Dak Prescott has
Speaker 1: at their disposal. That's a thousand cuts where the jests
Speaker 1: he just gave y'all is a thought because you you
Speaker 1: can't just okay, we got this. We're gonna put ten
Speaker 1: stitches right here because I don't hit you everywhere on
Speaker 1: your body. So now you're leaking from everywhere by the
Speaker 1: end of the game, and I'll say you're walking dead. Baby.
Speaker 1: You guys ever heard of the analogy the hunting Eskimo?
Speaker 1: You ever heard of now the hunt Eskimo out, That's
Speaker 1: what this offense is. The hunting Eskimo is this, uh,
Speaker 1: you take the hunting eskimo. He So the hunting Eskimo
Speaker 1: is um. He takes his blade and he dips his
Speaker 1: blade in blood, and then he buries it in the snow. Yes,
Speaker 1: and so the wolf comes and the wolf tastes the
Speaker 1: blood on the blade, and so he licks it thinking
Speaker 1: it's heat right, and it keeps looking it, and it
Speaker 1: keeps looking at not knowing that he's cutting in his
Speaker 1: own tongue, and so he bleeds out and dies. That's
Speaker 1: what our offense is is that we're the hunting Eskimo.
Speaker 1: We just put it out there and we just you
Speaker 1: just keep looking at and you think that you're getting
Speaker 1: to the to the meat, and we you're just killing yourself.
Speaker 1: You're trying to go to this coverage, we're killing you.
Speaker 1: Trying to go to that coverage. We're killing you. And
Speaker 1: at the end of the game you realize that this
Speaker 1: blade is actually cutting your tongue. That's the aggressively taking
Speaker 1: what they give us, aggressively taking what they give us,
Speaker 1: and we killed the line. He's just smart, smart, and
Speaker 1: that's what that's what that prescott is. He's the smart Eskimo.
Speaker 1: He's saying, I'm going to kill you by a thousand
Speaker 1: cups because why couldn't it be killing? And then that
Speaker 1: is the blade? How do you want to do any
Speaker 1: after practice today? I'm gonna tell call Kelly and Dak
Speaker 1: you're the smart either either hunting Eskimo and see which
Speaker 1: one like goes? Okay, Yeah, when I heard that story, man,
Speaker 1: that was that was crazy. All right, we gotta go,
Speaker 1: Kurt se Jesse. Good seeing you watch Survivor for tonight, Nate.
Speaker 1: We won't be able to watch it because we'll be
Speaker 1: hosting shots tonight, but we'll be cheering for our boy Danny. Chris,
Speaker 1: thanks for keeping Instagram shirt. Don't mess with Eskimo's Eric,
Speaker 1: thanks for helping Chris Bill, thanks for giving live streams up.
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