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Speaker 1: What's it's way up.

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Speaker 2: But Angela Yee, I'm Angela Yee and Pink Pantherust is here.

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Speaker 1: Hi, so welcome.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: So my my gud daughters in the corner in the room.

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Speaker 3: Too, because on the floor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's sitting on the floor, but she's a huge

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Speaker 2: fan of yours. And I appreciate you for coming through. Okay,

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Speaker 2: thank you for me, and it's a big time for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: right now, how do you feel?

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Speaker 3: I feel good?

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Speaker 1: You do? Yeah, okay, you.

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Speaker 2: Have a new song that's out that's on the barbie

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Speaker 2: sound Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Did you have barbies growing up?

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Speaker 4: No, my mom I genuinely keep saying like they were

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Speaker 4: pretty expensive.

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Speaker 3: My mom wouldn't spend.

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Speaker 1: Over like like five pounds okay.

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Speaker 4: For like toys and stuff. So no, we didn't have barbies.

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Speaker 4: But I did at some point have like a like

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Speaker 4: a big bobby head that like practiced by Oh.

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Speaker 2: I remember though, Yeah, I know, because I was thinking, it's,

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Speaker 2: you know, just me being from New York and you're

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Speaker 2: from the UK.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we all grew up with the

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Speaker 2: same thing, like we had Kevish past kids.

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Speaker 1: That was a big deal. I don't even know what

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Speaker 1: that is exactly.

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Speaker 2: So what was your thing growing up? Like, as far

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Speaker 2: as you know, did you have dolls that you want

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Speaker 2: it or you.

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Speaker 3: Think that you guys you probably would have like this.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to know. I'm curious.

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Speaker 3: Let me think. Did I have dolls and stuff I had? Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I had like.

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Speaker 4: The Simpsons, Okay. I also I collected Happy Meal toys.

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Speaker 4: I'm not joking, like those years worth in my room

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie Happy Meal toys with the best.

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Speaker 2: And you'd be so disappointed if you didn't get like

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Speaker 2: a good one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you just I'd still keep it though, and I

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Speaker 4: keep duplicates too, so like I've got literally a whole

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Speaker 4: Like it's it's sad.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they're worth something now.

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Speaker 4: I do wonder that myself, But I feel like there's

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Speaker 4: so many people in the world with like the same

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Speaker 4: amount of collections I have.

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Speaker 3: It's probably.

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Speaker 2: So what was life for you like growing up? Like

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Speaker 2: what kind of kid were you? Were you always the

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Speaker 2: one that was really creative. They knew you were going

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Speaker 2: to do music or did you think you would be

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Speaker 2: doing something else?

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Speaker 4: No, I think I wanted to always do music, But

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Speaker 4: I really, I realistically didn't think it was going to

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Speaker 4: be that viable, like possible until like I was like eighteen.

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Speaker 4: I genuinely, I genuinely thought that every famous person had

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Speaker 4: to be like born into like money, I don't know, yeah,

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Speaker 4: like every pop star was like engineered like also like

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Speaker 4: like like actually like a like genetically modified person. I'm

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Speaker 4: not joking, it's crazy, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 1: What about people who you grew up liking?

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I listened to a lot of I was saying.

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Speaker 4: I listened to a lot of UK artists up until

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Speaker 4: I was like fourteen. Then I started listening to.

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Speaker 3: Like more overseas ones.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I liked a lot of Like this is

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Speaker 4: the thing, you probably wouldn't know many of them, but

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Speaker 4: like I really liked, like I really still love Lily Allen.

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Speaker 2: And I know Lily Allen is okay, no, okay, But

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Speaker 2: I was naming the most obvious person just to like

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Speaker 3: But like, I listened to like a lot of bands.

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Speaker 1: And like, and you were in a band too, right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, for some reason, everyone knows that.

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Speaker 1: Because it's yes, everywhere.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, she was in a cover band briefly.

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Speaker 1: Did you get a lot of gigs when you were

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Speaker 3: We tried, honestly.

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Speaker 4: That was like I remember back then thinking like that

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Speaker 4: I get many gigs? I got like a few, like three?

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Speaker 1: How do you think that helped you with your career? Now?

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Speaker 1: Do you think it helped you at all?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: But I feel bad.

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Speaker 4: I don't want anyone to like, I don't think anyone

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Speaker 3: I think things that.

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Speaker 4: Happened before you're like fifteen, I feel like I feel

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Speaker 4: like stuff like that didn't really affect musically what I

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Speaker 1: Now, you also do co produce and produce your own music.

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Speaker 1: So how did you learn how to do that?

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Speaker 4: I I don't know, actually, fun I played piano in

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Speaker 4: my whole life, So I just it translates pretty well

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Speaker 4: when you do that, and you can just jump on

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the first son that you ever produce?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I produced for my friend first.

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Speaker 4: did it. But yeah, I produced my friend. I did

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Speaker 4: I I was working with for like two years. Then

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and okay, that's interesting. And so early on for you,

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Speaker 2: Because clearly you've always known you were interested in music,

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Speaker 2: you had the cover band, you were producing for other

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Speaker 4: I also it ages because obviously for them, like people

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I feel like they But this is the

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Speaker 3: Sounds even saying it out loud now it sounds ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I'm like I'm a pop star or like I want

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Speaker 2: And people describe you as an introvert, right, So how

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Speaker 2: to have to be around people post all the time

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Speaker 2: because you don't post all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that's not ticktack you did.

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Speaker 3: But I do. I love my TikTok.

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Speaker 4: But like I will say, like, I'm an introvert by choice.

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Speaker 4: It's not like I'm naturally and naturally I'm an extrovert

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Speaker 4: it's it's just multiple things. So I choose to be

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie is the stage I've got stage right,

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Speaker 4: which I keep telling them, Yeah, I do have stage right.

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Speaker 2: At first of all, I like how you keep going

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Speaker 2: I don't feel like finishing and I feel like your

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Speaker 2: music though. Also, were you in one bad relationship or

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Speaker 1: It even when you get older in dating.

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Speaker 2: But for you, was it like a certain situation or

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Speaker 2: is it just different things that you've seen and experienced.

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Speaker 3: It's the second one. It's like things I've seen and experience.

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Speaker 4: I went to a girls school, and therefore, like I saw,

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Speaker 4: But what is funny is that I was saying, it's

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Speaker 3: It's quite weird. Actually, Yeah, every song.

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Speaker 4: Then it happens and then yeah, so it's actually I

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so what happened in there?

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Speaker 2: what ended up happening with that?

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Speaker 1: And is there a particular sign that you wrote about it?

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Speaker 4: And when I realized I could be more selective and

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Speaker 4: I didn't actually need to like have these, you know,

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Speaker 4: I could really choose. I remember realizing like so, so,

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Speaker 4: for example, with a boyfriend, it was like, I don't

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Speaker 4: boyfriend is removable. I could at any point you could

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Speaker 4: just be my friend.

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Speaker 1: Again, just remove the boy and it's brand.

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Speaker 4: And then once I realized the simplicity of being able

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Speaker 4: I don't need to be here anymore. And then but no,

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Speaker 4: I didn't write a song about it. However, songs do

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Speaker 2: Like which which a song which are like okay, like do.

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Speaker 1: You miss me? What would that apply to?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 4: That one is purely fictition, because that one is about

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Speaker 3: And that's never that's about me cheating.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, why not have it a check? I don't

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Speaker 2: But it also is, like you said, because people might

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that's kind of funny.

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Speaker 2: So now let's talk about your first experience come here.

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Speaker 2: I think when you did La La Palooza, was that's

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Speaker 3: That was fun. That was when I had I saw.

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Speaker 4: And I remember that was a surprise for me because

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Speaker 2: How do you feel, like, what are you doing to

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Speaker 4: To work on it is honestly, just have this exposure therapy,

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Speaker 2: It's also part of real life. Like people I think

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Speaker 4: I think like doing something like going on stage and

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because the reason I asked about the current band earlier,

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Speaker 1: You know everything that you did that that you know

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Speaker 3: Okay, no, it's just me. Honestly, I can't when it

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Speaker 4: No, because then as soon as you have all these

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know what, it feels like you've been

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Speaker 4: It's just like, you know, I feel like I'm just

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like there's people now that are trying

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Speaker 4: Well, there's so many different angles you could try and

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Speaker 1: You know, have people ever chat to tell you?

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Speaker 4: I don't really market myself in a way which I

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00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,639
Speaker 4: think people want me to. Sometimes I kind of just

449
00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,080
Speaker 4: do it based on what I think is right, and

450
00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,360
Speaker 4: having a label there is super helpful for that.

451
00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,480
Speaker 3: That's one thing I will say.

452
00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,960
Speaker 4: But when it comes to like the actual music making

453
00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,919
Speaker 4: or input about sonics and stuff, I don't let anyone

454
00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:02,679
Speaker 4: really tell me.

455
00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,680
Speaker 2: Okay, So when you send your songs over, you wait

456
00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,239
Speaker 2: till it's done, and then you're like, yeah, this is it.

457
00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:08,760
Speaker 1: Period.

458
00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much you're like, yeah, oh no, but I

459
00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,360
Speaker 4: will take opinions, but.

460
00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,520
Speaker 3: Just like I will always take it with a grain

461
00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:16,160
Speaker 3: of salt.

462
00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:16,840
Speaker 1: Like okay, okay.

463
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,800
Speaker 2: And you're very particular about who you work with too.

464
00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,400
Speaker 2: It's not like you're just, oh, this is the hat

465
00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,560
Speaker 2: person right now, let me do a song with them. Yeah,

466
00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,680
Speaker 2: So who are some people right now that you're like, okay,

467
00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:28,800
Speaker 2: bucket list.

468
00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:29,600
Speaker 3: Of working with?

469
00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,240
Speaker 4: Well, I honestly everyone that I've wanted to I've I've done,

470
00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,359
Speaker 4: Like Cashnado was a long time dream and I did that.

471
00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,720
Speaker 4: And then even like a Willow that was like I've

472
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,159
Speaker 4: been a fan of Willow for a long time, so

473
00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,359
Speaker 4: that was great, And obviously, like I try and like

474
00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,119
Speaker 4: Willow as well, because I looked up to her for

475
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,399
Speaker 4: a long time and even though she's like my age,

476
00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,919
Speaker 4: I still was like the fact that she's black and

477
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,280
Speaker 4: like that she's like alternative is like, you don't see

478
00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,480
Speaker 4: that very much, you do, You really don't see it

479
00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,920
Speaker 4: too much in like mainstream or even adjacent mainstream adjacent music.

480
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,400
Speaker 3: So seeing Willow, it was like, okay.

481
00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,240
Speaker 1: That's six And what was it like being with her

482
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,680
Speaker 1: like in person? Yeah, great, Yeah, she's cool.

483
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:11,359
Speaker 3: She's cool.

484
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,480
Speaker 4: I really yeah, she's cool and she's really really good

485
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,680
Speaker 4: at singing, and that blew me away. Honestly, I knew

486
00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,119
Speaker 4: she was good from the songs she has, but hearing

487
00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,040
Speaker 4: it in real life was like, Okay, she doesn't need

488
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,160
Speaker 4: any tuning, she doesn't need anything, like, she's an amazing

489
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 4: singer and she plays all the instruments too.

490
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,520
Speaker 3: That was another surprise for me.

491
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,040
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah I didn't know that.

492
00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:44,600
Speaker 4: Crazy really really good. But yeah, Colap, who would I.

493
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 1: If you had a D now, who would it be?

494
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,920
Speaker 4: I think my DM. I think my DM tokens are

495
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 4: all out. I don't think I can keep doing it.

496
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,160
Speaker 3: No, I can't. I don't want to be known for this,

497
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:50,879
Speaker 3: like it can't.

498
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,159
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna just give it, Like, let me

499
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 4: give myself two years to just like build those tokens

500
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 4: back up. And I'm like, but even in two years,

501
00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,240
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that I won't have to even have to

502
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:00,879
Speaker 4: DM anymore.

503
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 3: I'm hoping you would just be like.

504
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 1: Ask someone personally, get their number.

505
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of where I'm hoping it's gonna be.

506
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 1: What about your dms? Who's been hitting you?

507
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 4: Like?

508
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 1: Check them? And every time there's probably so much good Stephaniere.

509
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,159
Speaker 4: Probably and it's kind of funny. Yeah, like I have

510
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 4: missed some, Like I'll like go.

511
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 3: Every month or two and I'll see one.

512
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 4: And I'll be like, oh my god, I should have

513
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 4: responded to that, and I have to apologize and be

514
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,160
Speaker 4: like I just don't go on Instagram and stuff, and they.

515
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 3: Always like, oh yeah, I get it.

516
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,239
Speaker 4: But like there's been some pretty like I mean, I'm

517
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 4: not gonna say like it's just yeah, there's been someone's

518
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,200
Speaker 4: where you or anyone in this room.

519
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 3: Might have been like, yeah, you should have aunced that.

520
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,160
Speaker 4: But you still can and I do, but it's always

521
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 4: late and I always feel bad. But I have a weird.

522
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 3: Anxiety surrounding reading dms for some reason.

523
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 4: I'm like I don't want to read like all of them,

524
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,640
Speaker 4: because I feel very obliged to message everyone back, even

525
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:51,160
Speaker 4: if they're.

526
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 3: A fan or if they're anyone, okay, and that takes

527
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:53,959
Speaker 3: me hours.

528
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,880
Speaker 2: But they also won't see that you read it if

529
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 2: you don't follow them.

530
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 3: Is that true?

531
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't follow them, you can I think so, right,

532
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 2: they won't see it.

533
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: It's read as.

534
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 3: Soon as you accept the DM request.

535
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 2: Oh you don't have to accept it though, you can

536
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 2: just look at Yeah, you can just look that's what

537
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 2: I do.

538
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 1: Well, it kind of.

539
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 2: Kind of, but yeah, I try. I try to make

540
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 2: sure because it's business in those dms too.

541
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 3: Oh, it's true. Yeah, you're right.

542
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

543
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,199
Speaker 4: There's a lot I should I think I might have

544
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 4: to start getting someone from the label to actually do

545
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 4: that for me.

546
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 3: I can't do it myself.

547
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: Now, what's an ideal life like for you right now?

548
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 2: Because clearly you love doing your music, and like you said,

549
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 2: you've had stage right, but you've come to the fact

550
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: that this is who I am. If I mess up,

551
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 2: it's whatever we keep it going. My fans. No, I'm

552
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,479
Speaker 2: not even pretending to be perfect. But for you, if

553
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 2: you could say this is how I want to do

554
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: things and where I want to be, what would you

555
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: say that is for you right now?

556
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 3: Musically or just Okay, musically and.

557
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 1: In life, in life, because your life is music too.

558
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 4: I feel like for me, it's it's so it's just

559
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 4: as simple as being able to know that, like I

560
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 4: can drop a song tomorrow or the day after, and

561
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 4: like again I don't care about you know, charting or

562
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 4: this or getting into this like I love but and

563
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 4: again no, it's not showing no, I love it like

564
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 4: I have so much appreciation.

565
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 3: I love it.

566
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 4: However, Like I think just being able to know that

567
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 4: I could drop song tomorrow and like the fan base

568
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 4: is there for me to listen to it and show

569
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 4: it love and appreciate it no matter what it is.

570
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 4: Because if I wanted to change genre tomorrow, I hope

571
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 4: that people would still support me and not be like,

572
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 4: why did she switch up on us?

573
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 1: Like that, I don't even know where January this is now, Like.

574
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 4: Well, my music was, oh exactly, so well it's it's

575
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 4: like dance pap.

576
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 3: There you go.

577
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 1: I don't know.

578
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 4: It all belongs in the same world though, and that's

579
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 4: the kind of thing that that you can't really recreate.

580
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 4: And that's why I when you asked it about the

581
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 4: next one, I was like, that's why I'm kind of

582
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 4: fine where I am. I feel very sure about myself

583
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 4: because it's such a very specific world that I've tried

584
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 4: to curate and I feel like it succeeded. So that

585
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 4: being said, to have a fan base that realizes that

586
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 4: I'm not like specific to one genre and I can

587
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 4: mix it up, To have a fan base that respect

588
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 4: me and realize what I'm about and defend me and

589
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 4: and stuff like that, and and just living nice, like

590
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 4: I don't need a big house, but like an I

591
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 4: just know house, London, wood gods and like you know,

592
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 4: just being able to like I just think, like, yeah,

593
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 4: I'm happy with my life right now. Honestly, I think

594
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 4: it's great. I think I'm very lucky to be.

595
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 3: In my position.

596
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 4: I think what I'm describing, I think I'm pretty much

597
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 4: at that there, so I can't ask for much more.

598
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: What about putting out a full length album now?

599
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: Because the EP has three songs, and we know the

600
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 2: mixtape came out a couple of years ago.

601
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: What about an album?

602
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 3: Oh no, that is on the that yeah, that is

603
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 3: the way.

604
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 4: That is what I'm working on now, and that is

605
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 4: I guess what I was just describing about my ideal life,

606
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 4: like after that's out, and if it gets like well received,

607
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 4: then that's going to be like I'm already on the

608
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 4: way to where I want to be, So that's just

609
00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 4: going to like.

610
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 3: Bring me closer to that. I hope that's what I'm hoping.

611
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: How does an album?

612
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 2: How is an album different than you're putting out music

613
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: and singles whenever you feel like you're putting out an EP.

614
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: How is it different than a mixtape? How are you

615
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: approaching this differently?

616
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 3: Funnily enough, I didn't even.

617
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 4: So I don't put any value in the label's mixtape album.

618
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 4: The only reason I called it a mixtape really was

619
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 4: because I didn't want to call it an album because

620
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 4: I didn't want people to say that was my debut album.

621
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 4: But otherwise, like that could have been an album in

622
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 4: my opinion, because I thought it was quite cohesive and

623
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 4: in soera in space. But I think me bringing out

624
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 4: an album for a lot of people, it's like, Okay,

625
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 4: this is her story, Like this is like a really

626
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 4: this is a concise and cohesive body of work that

627
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 4: we could like now it's been two years, she's built

628
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 4: up her skills, and like now we can hear something

629
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 4: which sounds like two years of development. From where she

630
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 4: began to now. And that's why I waited two years,

631
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,479
Speaker 4: because I was like, I want to wait till I'm

632
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 4: developed properly before I actually bring out on an album

633
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 4: which could win awards or could do this, or could chart.

634
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: And if it doesn't, then it's equally as fine it does.

635
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: A yet very comfortable with yourself.

636
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so, I but you know, I feel like,

637
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 4: as I said, two years, it's been two years of

638
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 4: having to learn to be and having to like travel

639
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 4: to LA, travel to New York, be in the room

640
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 4: with you, be in the room with this person, and

641
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 4: like really and look at other artists sometimes and be like,

642
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 4: I don't like what they're doing. I don't think that

643
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 4: that's what I want to do in and or I

644
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 4: like what this artistory I'm going to try and you know,

645
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 4: graduate from the school of this artist and like kind

646
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 4: of and that's how I kind of found myself here.

647
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: I know early on you didn't really like to do

648
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: interviews like on camera, and.

649
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't really, No, I didn't.

650
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: How did you manage to move past that? And what

651
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: was it about that that you didn't like?

652
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 4: Well, A big part of it was I just didn't

653
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 4: like how I looked on camera, and that's why I

654
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 4: didn't want to do it, because I was like, I

655
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 4: don't want to look at it back and think, oh

656
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 4: my god, I look horrible. But now I think again,

657
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 4: it's all about development. I think now I can look

658
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 4: at myself and I feel happy with that. And I

659
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 4: think that once that happened and I started feeling happy

660
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 4: with that, I was like, okay, because I know I

661
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 4: can talk about music and stuff.

662
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 3: I know I can.

663
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 4: I'm very concise about what I share, and like I

664
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 4: can talk about what I want to share. I know

665
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 4: that no one basically can pressed me into says and

666
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 4: I don't want to say so. Once I figured out

667
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 4: that I was happy with how everything looked and like

668
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 4: how like dressed and stuff, I was like, Okay, now

669
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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm comfortable enough to talk and stuff

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Speaker 4: and be seen by people.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, no, people need to see this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I need to see you sometimes, though not all

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Speaker 3: the time. You know, you gotta see it out like accordingly.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, how much of the album is done?

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Speaker 4: Oh well depends, like I guess what day you ask me,

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Speaker 4: But like I'd say like sixty percent, no, fifty percent.

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Speaker 3: Let's go fifty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe this is coming kind of soon, maybe

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Speaker 2: I think so hopefully. Well, Pink Panther there is, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much and congratulations on everything, because honestly, like

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Speaker 2: very super talented.

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Speaker 1: And I like the fact that it's all organic.

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Speaker 2: You are who you are, unapologetically, and I think it's

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Speaker 2: so you're not like out here trying your hardest to

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Speaker 2: be in the spotlight, coming up with fake storylines and none.

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Speaker 1: Of those things.

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Speaker 3: No, not yet anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Not Yeah. Okay, well no I'm joking.

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Speaker 3: I'm joking. Thank you. I appreciate you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's way up at Angela. Ye, Pink Pantherests, well,