1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: My selfish boyfriend prioritizes his best friend over me, so 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: I want to break up. Almost three years ago, I, 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: twenty seven male, built my house on my family's property. 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: A month later, I met and began an awesome friendship 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: with Tommy, thirty one male. We have so much in 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: common and just clickly clacked. I fell in love with 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: him soon after. He's kind, brilliant, and we had some 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: amazing times together that I always remember. This comes from 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: oh Shizzle Jizzle on our slosh Okay storytimes, so I 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: read it. So. We do live in separate towns about 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: forty five minutes away, but that wasn't much of an 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: issue back then. We have talked about marriage from time 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: to time, something I never really thought about with anyone else. 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm not usually the jealous type unless there's a visible 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: reason for me to be. I have lots of friends 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: that I try to keep up with, some being fellow 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: gay guys. Tommy, on the other hand, can get jealous 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: quite easily when it comes to said friends. I'm not 19 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: going out with them often, but we do catch up 20 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: on social media from time to time. A little later 21 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: in our relationship, Eddie, who was old co of mine, 22 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: was moving back to town after an ugly breakup and 23 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: had to move back with his parents. I had a 24 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: spare room and had invited him to move in with 25 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: me as a roommate to both help him out and 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: put a little money in my savings accounts. Eddie is 27 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: gay and Tommy, of course was not happy about this idea, 28 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: and it turned into a few big fights. So I 29 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: decided to keep Tommy happy and didn't go through the plan. 30 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: Is that a red flag for Tommy boy? 31 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: I think it's a huge red flag. Look, sometimes people 32 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: are just so horrible that there's just not a redeeming quality. 33 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: And you know, you know, sometimes people change up a look. 34 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes they're the same. They're the same for 35 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: the entire time, you know, the let's say your entire 36 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: life story, and then all of a sudden you come 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: back and you can't even see their true face. 38 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: That's true. This should be Broke Back Mountain, not Triangle Love. 39 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: Broke Back Mountain. That's what I'm getting here. 40 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: Yes, thankfully Eddie understood and it didn't ruin my friendship. 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: I was very upset about it. Tommy did apologize for 42 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: the situation and how he acted, but I never really 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: accepted it. Tommy made friends with Tyler. Tyler is a 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: thirsty pick me princess who constantly sucks up to Tommy's 45 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: time and attention. I quickly started getting replaced from activities. 46 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: Tommy and I would go together. They'd stay up all 47 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: night playing video games and talking on the phone, even 48 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: taking day trips out of town. He would comment flirtatious 49 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: emojis on Tommy's picture and soon start posting things on 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: social media, tagging Tommy in some cases telling him he 51 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: loved me. 52 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: Now that is just unacceptable. On It's not something that 53 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: we can we can let happen. 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like like I feel like at a 55 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: certain point, you're closing your ears off to uh the truth, 56 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: and we can't have that. You know, we want to 57 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: see those ears be full. We don't want you to 58 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: block the truth either, and like tape your mouth shut. 59 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: You can't do, you know, gag yourself with your own hair, 60 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: un gag him. 61 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: Get it out of here. 62 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: So I got pissed, especially knowing that if the tables 63 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: were turned, Tommy would have a fit. I made a 64 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: fuss about this. Tommy says he's only a friend. Tyler 65 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: blocked me, but continue to unblock me from time to time. 66 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: I honestly believe that it was for me to see 67 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: the posts he tagged Tommy on. 68 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: Now that is just plain insanity. That is just what 69 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: are we doing here, guys? I'm lost for words. 70 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: I you know, I feel like like something like this 71 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: shouldn't happen. If it does happen, it should be so rare, 72 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: almost like seeing Bigfoot, you know. 73 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: Well, Like, honestly, I can't see any redeeming qualities here. 74 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: No rideeming And to our podcast listeners, I apologize, this 75 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: is all visual humor. 76 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: I don't apologize at all. 77 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: I finally just blocked his b A. Tommy wanted to 78 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: get his own place because he was living with family. 79 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: I offered for him to move in with me in 80 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: my home. He had stayed with me before for a 81 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: few months and it was great. Tommy plans on leaving 82 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: the state in the future with me and said he 83 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 1: didn't want to move to another town in a state, 84 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: for when he moves out of his town, it would 85 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: be away from the state. That made sense to me, 86 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: So his wise idea was to get an apartment with 87 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: Princess Tyler. I got beyond angry and hurt. It put 88 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: strain on our relationship and I did leave him. Nicki 89 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: Bordo says, this whole relationship is too toxic. I kind 90 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: of agree. I kind of agree. 91 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: This is crazy. 92 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: This is crazy. 93 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: I can't believe it. 94 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's like where did this come. It's 95 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: almost like came out of nowhere, came totally from the side. 96 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: John has some some pigtails you can grip. 97 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: You know, he needs to act like a pony and 98 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: you know, gallop on out of there. Yep. 99 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: Tommy asked me to come back, and I did because 100 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: I loved him, and honestly I was weak. Things were 101 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: okay for a couple months, but soon things got crappy again. 102 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: Started barely ever seeing him. It soon became only once 103 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 1: a month, and that would only be if I asked 104 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: to see him. He blamed distance a lot, but I 105 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: knew it was BS. It it's not even in a 106 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: relationship anymore. 107 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: It's not the same. 108 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: He blamed the distance a lot, but I knew that 109 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: was BS. I felt he just wasn't taking me or 110 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: this relationship seriously at all. I became very lonely. I 111 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: became depressed and it was visible to my family and friends. 112 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: So I ended it good, Op, it seems like you 113 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: need to end it. Yeah. 114 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: Please. 115 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: Tommy did not take the break well, especially because it 116 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: was right before my birthday and I excluded him from 117 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: the festivities, though I wasn't really expecting anything from him 118 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: at that point. I had tried communicating with him about 119 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: these problems before, but it never went anywhere. I finally 120 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: chose me. We always told each other that we were 121 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: friends before anything happened, and that we always wanted to 122 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: be part of each other's lives no matter what. I 123 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: cared deeply for him, so I remained friends but kept 124 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: my distance, and we began to move on. So the 125 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: break finally woke his a up, and he's been trying 126 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: to get back together. I've been at arm's length because 127 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: I am trying to move on, but I do love him, 128 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: and I am believing he has changed. Give it time, girl, 129 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: give it time. I do see his trying and he 130 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: does feel guilty of his mistakes. So I have been 131 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: thinking about possibly getting back together, but I am taking 132 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: things slow. Do you think, OP, he should get back together? 133 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: What do you think of? 134 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: Run? Run? Look? This other guy is trying to have 135 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 2: his cake and eat his ass too, So I don't 136 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 2: think that that should be allowed. 137 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: To let us know what you think get back or nah. 138 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: So then tragedy struck again. He told me that this 139 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: weekend he taking a road trip out of state this 140 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: weekend with Princess Tyler come on for his birthday. All 141 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: my negative feelings came back very quickly, and it's literally 142 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: the exact same situation. Sorry, there's no girlfriend here, everyone's 143 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: a dude, and it's literally the same situation. 144 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 2: Rock with the case. 145 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: I realized I can't do this relationship if Tyler is 146 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: in the picture. It's always going to be a reminder 147 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: of how he's picked Tyler's feelings over mine, and I 148 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: don't want a future will I'll never be a priority. 149 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: I've never said yes to moving away with him in 150 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: the future because of that. I'm not going to give 151 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: up everything I have when I have doubts about a 152 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: happy future. My mood changed as soon as he told 153 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: me that. I told him, oh, and I told him 154 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: to leave me be. He kept saying that he's just 155 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: a friend and roommate and called me unfair and brought 156 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: the fact that I am the one who ended a 157 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: relationship and that I didn't want him there for my birthday. 158 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: I told him it's very much of him to call 159 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: me in fair and that he's a hypocrite. I haven't 160 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: spoken to him, and to be honest, I don't know 161 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: if I want to any more. With sweet little Princess 162 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: Tyler in the picture, I'm worried our time has come. 163 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: So am I the a hole for wanting to walk 164 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: away completely because of this? I'd really appreciate advice, and 165 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: we do have an update run away. 166 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, this person is a is a look you can't 167 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: reason with a lunatic. 168 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so hypocritical, like so hypocritical, Like Opie wants to 169 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: live with this friend and this guy's like no, And 170 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he's going on road trips 171 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: and spending all this time with Tyler and literally flirting 172 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: online and that's okay. 173 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's a loophole, trying to get into another hole. 174 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: It's like, it's okay when I do it. 175 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: Oh my god. But we got an update, so hello, 176 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: it's been a while, seven months to be, uh, seven 177 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: months to be. It looks like I thought i'd share 178 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: due to events being fairly recent. Tommy and I are 179 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: over halleluja yay. Honestly, I feel like I've finally woken up. 180 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: I actually came back to read my original post, and honestly, 181 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: I want to punch myself for how naive I have been. 182 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: So I stay with Tommy for God knows why. Over 183 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: this last several months, I went through a few rough times, 184 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: family related. I was hoping Tommy would be there for 185 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: emotional support, but surprise, nope, it was little to nine. 186 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: He started going back to school, so he's busy. So 187 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: with that and his work schedule, seeing him became non existent. 188 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: He would go hang out with anyone else. I realized 189 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: we hadn't seen each other in two months. 190 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 191 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: That includes for Thanksgiving, which one we had usually spent together, 192 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: and two landed on his birthday. Perhaps he didn't want 193 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: to do anything because of what happened on my birthday. Whatever, 194 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: So I confronted him about this long time not seeing 195 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: each other, which began a huge fight. One thing I 196 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: did not mention the original post because it honestly makes 197 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: me feel pathetic is Tommy did not want to make 198 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: our relationship official. Wow. His excuse had pretty much been 199 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: that he wanted to get his life together first three 200 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: years later, I guess the guy will get there someday. 201 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: He began to argue that I have yet to agree 202 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: to move away with him in like two years, and 203 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: that's something that stalls us, and I have told him 204 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: quite a few times that I can't agree leaving everything 205 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: behind because, like I've said, I don't trust I'll be happy, 206 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: especially with how crappy things have been between us this 207 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: last year. Began to say I was selfish for not 208 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: wanting to compromise, and then went on to say, I 209 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: have my career to keep investing in. Since you are 210 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: clearly done progressing in life, you can stay here and 211 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: re live the same day over and over again. Since 212 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: he's gone back to school, he's been saying that I 213 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: peaked in life. Yes, I still have dreams that I'd 214 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: like to accomplish, but unlike him, I've been But unlike him, 215 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: I have a well paying job that I actually enjoy, 216 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: and I live a rather comfortable life. I kind of 217 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: snapped and told him that he's a selfish backstabber, since 218 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: all he has done in his entire relationship is choose himself. 219 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: We are no longer in contact, and I finally feel free. 220 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: I just wish I had respected myself more and realized 221 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: that this guy only cared about himself way earlier. But hey, 222 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: we all learn from our mistakes. By the way, you 223 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: can learn from your mistake by not not joining us 224 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: live every weekday at three PMPST on Facebook and YouTube. 225 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: We're probably live right now, so come on in, get 226 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: in here. I'm gonna go right into this update. So 227 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: as for Princess Tyler, who the f cares? They can 228 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: have each other and make each other miserable. Now I 229 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: have my family and friends that I can be happy 230 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: with and enjoy life. With a fresh beginning. I can 231 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: breathe again. And Happy holidays to you. And that is 232 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: where this story ends. 233 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 2: Happy Holidays, Happy Holidays, Happy Holidays. 234 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: A wanna go a sagap. I am sorry this happened 235 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: to you, but yeah, the hypocrisy is not something to 236 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: deal with. 237 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: And I'm glad you left. That's right, same here, Yeah, 238 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 2: same here. 239 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: But with that, I think we gotta leave. 240 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: John Oh, we gotta get the freak out of here. 241 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: We gotta get the freak out of here. So if 242 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: you love us, make sure to subscribe. 243 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 2: We love you and see it tomorrow. 244 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: This is an episode from Deep within the Archives. 245 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: Time for okop rewam. 246 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: Exce's divorce lawyer says, send three years of complete financials 247 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: or else me, here's one thousand McDonald's receipts. Okayop, this 248 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: is okayop. 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And uh uh, John, Actually, 265 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: I have a I have a law one for you. 266 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: I like, I like something I could sing my teeth into, 267 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: you know, a little meat on it. 268 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: Ex's divorce lawyer says, send three years of complete financials 269 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: or else me, here's one thousand McDonald's receipts. 270 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: Man, is this? Is this the guy from Super Sized Fear? 271 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: What's going on going to McDonald's for a long time. 272 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: This has happened several years ago when my ex and 273 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: I were going through a heated divorce slash custody battle. 274 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: A yeah, not not mice. While we were married, we 275 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: had a couple of conversations about how rich people hide 276 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: their assets to avoid paying taxes. I've never had enough 277 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: assets to do this, but she somehow got the idea 278 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: that I was and told her attorney that I was 279 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: laundering money and hiding income. Man's got like Ozark? So 280 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: freaking Oh? Actually, Ozark season four is out. Have we 281 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: watched that? 282 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: I have not watched. 283 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. This is an ad for Netflix. 284 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: But the problem is I can only see Michael Bateman 285 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: as the guy from Arrested Development. 286 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we could never look at him the same way. Again, 287 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: he plays a pretty good, kind of like semi evil character. 288 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, he launders money. That's that's that's a joke. 289 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: It was more likely the heat of the moment, as 290 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: divorce slash custody battles often come down to and the 291 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: thing is, I couldn't even afford my own attorney, so 292 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: I represented myself, which should have been an indicator that 293 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: he's not hiding massive amounts of moneys and wear, or. 294 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: He's a mastermind genius, and that's to throw people off. 295 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: His sell John's thinking like a true criminals. Let's look 296 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: at his tax returns. Irs look him up. 297 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't need the irs looking into 298 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: myself any more than they already. 299 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: Her lawyer wasn't a total butthole, but he clearly was 300 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: out to get me, and he talked down to me 301 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: like I didn't deserve to breathe the same air as him. God, 302 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: one day I get a letter in the mail from 303 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: him requesting an updated income declarations form and three years 304 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: of financials. It had a long list of things to include, 305 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: so which which sounds terrible, like he has to get everything, 306 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: all these things put together, sounds like a drag. I 307 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: own a communications tech company that was in super startup phase. 308 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: Back then. Money was already tight. I was trying to 309 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: get this business off the ground with no financing, and 310 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: I was finishing my MBA with scholarships and loans, So 311 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: paying for copies and post it or driving thirty miles 312 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: to his office meant eating peanut butter and saltines for 313 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: a week. So I called him to explain my situation. 314 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: He all but called me a liar and didn't believe 315 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't afford it. I was put off by that, 316 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: and I said that it was taking time away from 317 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: my business I needed to handle, to which he replied, 318 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: and I'll never forget this. Well, according to your income declarations, 319 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: you're not that busy. What do you do all day? 320 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: He then said, if he didn't get these documents, he 321 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: would consider my previous filings as fraudulent. Tell the judge, 322 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: contact the DA, and also alert the state tax agency 323 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: and IRS. Oh my god, he's unleashing the hounds. 324 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: God's that's unleashing Satan's army. 325 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: I know, Jesus, Dirs and company. Not somebody want to 326 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: bump into No thanks, Probably an empty threat, but I'm 327 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: no warrior, so I'm not really sure. The facts is 328 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: one of the services my company provides, and at this 329 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: time it was relatively unknown. So I asked him if 330 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: he has a fax machine. He said he had a 331 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: fact scanner copier device, and what law off? This doesn't 332 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: now have a fax machine? Just like talking down to him? 333 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: What a d bag? And then I suddenly got an idea. Okay, 334 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: I said to him, I'll put together in facts everything 335 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: I can. Okay, mother effort. You want three years of financials? 336 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: You got it. I scanned to PDF every receipt I 337 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: could find, a McDonald's receipt from five years ago. F 338 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: it will hurt to include it. CVS receipt, It's three 339 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: miles long. Perfect. They get one dollar off tooth based company. 340 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: They get one dollar off tooth based coupons too. 341 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: Wow, he's doing him such a favor. 342 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: I know what a guy. I downloaded every bank statement, 343 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: credit card statement, purchase orders from vendors, and every invoice 344 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: I sent to clients. I printed to PDF the entire 345 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: three year accounting journal, monthly quarter, monthly, quarterly, annual balance sheets, 346 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: cash flow statements, profit and losses. Not only did I 347 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: pdf three years of tax filings, but every single letter 348 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: I received from the IRS and state tax agency, including 349 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: the inserts advising me of my rights. It took a while, 350 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: but I was a few days ahead of the deadline. 351 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: I made a cover page black background with white lettering 352 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: wherever I could basically waste the just. 353 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: Destroying ink reserves. Oh my god. 354 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: I included separator pages in all caps in the biggest, 355 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: boldest font that would fit on the page in the 356 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: landscape twenty xx receipts, twenty xx taxes like twenty nineteen, 357 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, et cetera. I merged everything into a single 358 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty plus page compressed PDF and sent 359 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: the documents using my EFACT system. Every hour or so, 360 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: I received a status email saying the facts failed. Huh, 361 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: that's well, they're getting this document. So I changed the 362 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: system configuration to unlimited reach eyes after failures to keep 363 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: redialing it until it went through. Weird, I was still 364 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: getting status email failures. I'll delete the failure emails and 365 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: keep success and keep the successful ones after it eventually 366 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: goes through. I thought problem solved. Two days later, a 367 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: lady from his office called and asked me to stop 368 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: sending the facts. Their fact scanner printer copier had been 369 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: printing non stop twenty four to seven. They kept getting 370 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: paper jams, kept running out of ink, and they had 371 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: to keep shutting it off and back on to print. 372 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: I explained to her sweetly, as sweetly as I could 373 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: that her boss told me to send this by the deadline, 374 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: or else he would call the DA in IRS. Since 375 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to call from the DA or the IRS, 376 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: I would keep sending until I got a success confirmation. 377 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: I suggested they just not print and told my facts complete. 378 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: But she didn't like that. She asked me to email, 379 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: But she asked me to email the documents. I told 380 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: a little white lie that my email wouldn't allow an 381 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: attachment that big unless her boss in writing agreed to 382 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: cancel the request or agreed to reimburse me for my 383 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: cost to print in ship. I said I would continue 384 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: to fact until they confirm they have received every single 385 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: last page. 386 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I got to applaud you. 387 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: That is beautiful, It is great, all right, but what 388 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: is the response? Uh? 389 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: Oh? 390 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: She put me on hold and the attorney gets on 391 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: the line. He said, forget sending the financials. I said 392 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: that I would need this in writing, so I will 393 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: keep sending the facts until he has sent that to me. 394 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: That's right. He asked me to stop faxing and he 395 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: would send it in writing, and I said, send it 396 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: in writing. First, and then I'll stop. There we go, 397 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: long moment of silence. 398 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: Click. 399 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: After twenty minutes, I received an email from his assistant 400 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: with an attached signed letter in PDF that I no 401 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: longer needed to provide financials. The letter then threatened to 402 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: pursue sanctions in court or assume me for interfering with 403 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: their business for printing every single page twenty four to seven. 404 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: Every time I saw him after that, the lawyer never 405 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: brought up any sanctions, lawsuits, criminal referrals, or financials ever. 406 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: Again, that is so beautiful. Like we've all had moments 407 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: in our lives like kind of similar to that where 408 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, this tax thing is wrong, or like 409 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 2: you need to like redo this form or whatever, and 410 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: they're like they just don't care. 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