1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: You're entering another world. One just a few feet beyond 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: the safe blow of the street light, out into the duck. 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: One slight step off the edge of the map, into 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: the land of monsters. Today's tale. Three intrepid podcasters stumble 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: across a story more real and more disturbing than they 6 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: could have ever imagined. In partnership with Stuff they Don't 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Want you to Know, presents the tale of the University six. 8 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies, History is 9 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 10 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 11 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 12 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: My name is Mark, my name is Neil. They call 13 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: me Bill. Today we're continuing our previous exploration of the 14 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 1: so called University six. Folks. Please check out part one 15 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: before joining us for part two. This story is part mystery, 16 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: it's possibly cover up and just baby, part paranormal, at 17 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: least that's what some folks are alleging now. Mark, Neil 18 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: and I initially received notice of this story from a 19 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: source or possibly sources that wish to remain anonymous, and 20 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: as we dove into what they had sent us, we 21 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: started to seriously wonder about this person or these people's identities. 22 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: Here are the facts, as we talked about before, were this, Uh, 23 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: the case of the University six is it occurs in 24 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: a real place out there in Pennsylvania. Right. The Homestead 25 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: State School and Hospital was built just a couple of 26 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: miles outside of the appropriately named Hazard, Pennsylvania, over the 27 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: course of five years from nineteen o three in nineteen 28 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: o eight. Uh. And as we talked about in the 29 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: last episode, the history of mental health more like mental 30 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: health care I suppose, or really it's kind of a 31 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: misnomer in America is super fraught, um. And a lot 32 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: of these institutions were the site of terrible abuses by 33 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: people in power who should have been taking care of 34 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: those in their charge. Yeah. And we talked about the 35 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: human experimentation that a lot of patients were subjected to 36 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: when staying at one of those places. And uh, you know, 37 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: as we as we dove into the this issue, we 38 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: talked about how this concept of the University six really 39 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: has been urban legend, I mean for as long as 40 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: we've known about it, right, Yeah, And you run into 41 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: this often any region of the world you travel to 42 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: any community is going to have their own local lore, 43 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Just like how parts of 44 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: New Jersey at the Jersey Devil, Just like how West 45 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: Virginia has Mothman or other cases of strange disappearances. You 46 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: know dB Cooper out in the Pacific Northwest of folklore 47 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: is alive and often there is a grain of truth 48 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: to it. The University six were no different. For many, 49 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: many years. This was a campfire story. The idea being 50 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: that somewhere in the mid ninety nineties a group of 51 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: students at a local university decided to do something a 52 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: lot of people have done in the past, something that 53 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: the three of us have done in the past. They 54 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: went to see whether they could prove or disprove any 55 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: of the any of the stories right, any of the 56 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: urban legends around what is often called the Black Castle. 57 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: So like when you guys were when you guys were 58 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: growing up, did you ever encounter local legends or you know, 59 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 1: spooky places. I think we talked about this a little 60 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: bit in the past. I just never wanted to be 61 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: a part of an urban legend like this, where you 62 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: got you know, university students who are interested in who 63 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: are actually actively investigating something, and then they disappear and 64 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: you don't hear from again, and then it goes away, 65 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: and then, as we said in the last episode, the 66 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: local authorities don't even want to talk about it. Right. 67 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: That was where the legend hit the light of investigation. 68 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: I guess you could say, because, as you noted, Mark, 69 00:04:54,880 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: we did reach out to local law enforcement. We looked 70 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: into some of the footage we received from what we 71 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: saw six college students from a local university, the ones 72 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: who were called the university six, visited this place, this 73 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: Black Castle, and according to all the official documentation we 74 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: could find, their trail went cold from there. Uh. We 75 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: were not able to contact any family members. We searched 76 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: down a few possible contacts, but those folks just had 77 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, the same last name, right, They were just 78 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: they they weren't related to these folks, And the police 79 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 1: records that we were able to obtain we're also no help. 80 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: Part of that is because so much time has passed. 81 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: But someone, um, someone wanted us to find this. So 82 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: we received, separately intogether a series of anonymous deliveries, um 83 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: and they look like they look like found footage, like 84 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: what you're describing, Neil they and there's a shaky camera, right, 85 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: and it starts outside of something that very much appears 86 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: to be the Homestead State School in hospital and then 87 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: they go inside. And if you heard part one, then 88 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: you see that things quickly seemed to go wrong. Right. 89 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: What do we figure out? They're they're running late. There's 90 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: someone named Emily, there's someone named Matt. They're trying to 91 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: meet other people, other members of their cohort um. Is 92 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: there anything else that's stuck out to you guys about 93 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: the initial footage we received possible spooky clown siding. Maybe 94 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't know if that's what it was, 95 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: or if there there seems to be something in there. 96 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: Because Emily in the first series, or like right in 97 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: the beginning, they enter the actual area that we think 98 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: is the Black Castle, she reports to have her leg grabbed. 99 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: I guess um nothing is shown you know on the 100 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: camera that was probably that may have been standing there 101 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: right that grabbed her. But as the camera pans around, 102 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: it appears to to show something by the stairs, but 103 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: they don't investigate it any further. They just kind of 104 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: keep moving on. Yeah, and we also looked into records 105 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: from local universities, even community colleges, only to find that 106 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: they had none of them. No one near hazard Pennsylvania 107 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: had a record of student disappearances of this nature. In fact, 108 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: they had no record of these students at all, which 109 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: is another wrinkle to the story. We send footage the 110 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: multiple institutions. One university did get back to us and 111 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: called it a prank. H the head of the universe 112 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: State listened to the footage, told us it was false, 113 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: and then also said something that felt a little bit 114 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: like a party line that would never, on principle, allow 115 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: students to submit a project involving illegal activity. All rights reserved, yours, 116 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: president of the university, and my illegal activity. We're talking 117 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: about trespassing, right, I mean, this shouldn't be on those 118 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: grounds without permission. Yeah, urban exploration, which we've talked about 119 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: in the past. Uh, And I know, at least on 120 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: my side, urban exploration is something near and dear to 121 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: my heart. But of course it makes sense right that 122 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: a university would deny co signing any sort of illegal 123 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: activity or violation of the law. But also that makes 124 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: you wonder. I don't know, I don't feel like any 125 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: hall of learning I've been to ever kept that close 126 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: of an eye on a project, whether a solo essay 127 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: or whether a group work in the field. Um, I 128 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: think they it seems like they were saying this talking 129 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: point after the fact, right like after we progressed in questioning. Yeah, 130 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: for sure, it does feel like a canned response. So 131 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: then we reached out to different department heads because, as 132 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, folks, departments in universities and colleges across the 133 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: world can often be siloed, meaning they can be their 134 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: own fiefdoms, which means, and this is true that sometimes 135 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: if you can't get an answer from the overall hierarchy, 136 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: you can go to the head of a department. So 137 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: we looked at the film department. We spoke with the 138 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: uh oh gosh, we spoke was weird ones the geology 139 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: department just in case, and this also that department barrel 140 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: of laughs. Yes, they use emoji in their email, And 141 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: almost everybody got back to us with pretty much the 142 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: same response they had never heard of this story. The 143 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: last one we're waiting on technically is the anthropology department. 144 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: The chair of the anthropology department has yet to respond 145 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: to our inquiries, and that can mean one of Anything's 146 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're on vacation or look, does it. 147 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: Does it strike you guys as weird that this is 148 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: a piece of local lore, right, wouldn't the people who 149 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: live in the area know the local lore a little 150 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: better than you know, some random guys in Michigan who 151 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: are recording a podcast. That's true, but it also kind 152 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: of reminds me of a story we've covered pretty extensively 153 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: about the Georgia guidestones over there in Alberton, Georgia, not 154 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: too far from Atlanta. In our travels and conversations and 155 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: research into that, oftentimes it seems like people that live 156 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: outside of the area know about the things more than 157 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: folks that live really close by. I think it oftentimes 158 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: has to do with people that are's kind of the 159 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: niche sort of circles of research, and it's easy to 160 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: take it for granted. But people that live nearby these 161 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: things sort of like living in New York City, you 162 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: don't go see the Empire State buility. Yeah, maybe it's 163 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: a thing where I've heard that story. Yeah, whatever, that 164 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: thing that's near me, come on, tell me something new. Still, 165 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: it seems relatively um relatively implausible, or at the very 166 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: least surprising that very well read people, people who literally 167 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: work at a university in the area, would somehow not 168 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: have known about this. Every every every professor in West 169 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: Virginia who's been there for more than a semester is 170 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: gonna be aware of moth Man. They might not be 171 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: an expert, they might not have seen the statue or 172 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: gone to point pleasant, but they're not going to stonewall you. 173 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: They're not going to be surprised and say, what do 174 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: you mean some sort of moth that's also a man, 175 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: or some sort of man changes into a moth. They'll 176 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: just go moth man. Yeah, So I think it was 177 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: surprising though to you guys point I think I think 178 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: it's surprising that people seem entirely unaware of this, But 179 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: it seems it's still it seems implausible, right, It's hard 180 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: to believe so long time listeners after being stone walled 181 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: by both local law enforcement and local academia, if you 182 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: want to call it that, we were at an impass 183 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: until that is, we were received a new set of recordings. 184 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: What are we talking about, We'll tell you after a 185 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: word from our sponsors. Here's where it gets crazy. So 186 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: we talked about how this does sound odd, But folks, 187 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: you may not know this off air after we recorded 188 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: part one. Uh, Neil, you actually received another package. Mark, 189 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: I believe you received something identical or very similar. Yeah, 190 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: And as we said in episode one, we received these 191 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: things in these unmarked packages, no return address, no information, 192 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: and inside each one there is a USB drive, and 193 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: on those USB drives there are I would describe them 194 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: as snippets of a videotape from a while ago and older. 195 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: It was probably a physical video tape that had been digitized, 196 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: and then we're getting like just pieces of it that 197 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: somebody has cut up and turned into individual files. I 198 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: gotta say, you know, you hear about getting unmarked packages 199 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: or packages with no return envelopes containing spooky stuff in 200 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: movies all the time, But to actually have it happened 201 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: to you, it's very unsettling. Uh. It almost felt like 202 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: it was hand delivered. It had a certain you know, 203 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: mine was lacking in in proper postage, which I thought 204 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: was kind of unusual, which makes me think somebody knows 205 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: where I live. I don't care for that one bit, No, 206 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: I don't. That's a giveaway if for anybody who wants 207 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: to attempt to mail something with a degree of anonymity. 208 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: The only thing you really need on a return address 209 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: in the US is a ZIP code. If you have 210 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: a zip code as a return address, then it can 211 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: still enter the post. However, if you receive stuff like 212 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:54,359 Speaker 1: we did that has zero return address, zero identifying information, 213 00:14:54,760 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: then that does mean and that's someone possibly APPROXI right, 214 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: but someone delivered that thing by hand. Typically uh and 215 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: in these uh, in these snippets, as you describe them, Mark, 216 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: we learn a little bit more about this purported story. 217 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: Please be aware the following audio may not be appropriate 218 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: for all audience members. And we're gonna play play one 219 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: of the clips we've got, and then we're gonna react 220 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: to it and kind of share our thoughts. And I 221 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: will say, there's some strange stuff going on in these 222 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: clips that we've received. We're gonna look at it as 223 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: objectively as we can. Just we want to know what 224 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: you think. So as we listen through these, gather your 225 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: thoughts and then make sure you send them our way. 226 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: All right, here we go or are you still using 227 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: someone will know what happened to us? The things arging 228 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what this is. Gonna get ahead of 229 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: here Anyway, every time we go down the hallway, we 230 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: get more law. So looking at this again, it appears 231 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: to be the same two people from the previous stuff 232 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: we had been sent. Uh, this time they are they 233 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: remain in a dark, subterranean area. They seem That's the thing. 234 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if they seem distressed, because people who are, 235 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: it's unusual. People who are distressed at that level are 236 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: typically much less coherent. That's one of the things that 237 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: stood up to me. You can hear it in their 238 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: voices a little bit. Um it. It is odd. In 239 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: the very first clip we see of the female character running, 240 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: that's that's really what you see is kind of a 241 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: shaky camera and they appear to be inside. I would 242 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: say it's interior. I don't know if it's you know, 243 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: underneath the ground or or what, but it appears to 244 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: be inside and very dark in this facility that we 245 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: saw from the first video. Then almost immediately it cuts 246 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: and guys or did you see it looks like a 247 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: cave to me or some kind of earthen like you said, 248 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: been a subterranean structure that's a very outcombe, very eld 249 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: and ring. And the the other thing is you can 250 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: this is an audio podcast, of course, so you can 251 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: hear what appears to be a third voice. In a 252 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: previous clip we were sent, there was this question that 253 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: the characters had about whether or not a member of 254 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: their group was it's pranking basically right? They I believe 255 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: they had They had assumed that other people had arrived 256 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: earlier and that they were catching up with them, So 257 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: maybe they ran into these folks at this time. Um. Again, 258 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: it's just it's unusual for people to react that way 259 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: in distress. Agreed. Uh, I guys, I don't know. I'm 260 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to keep an open mind 261 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: with this thing. As this camera is panting around when 262 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: they're down in that cave. Did you guys see the thing? 263 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: It was like white and red, looked like clown. Yeah, yeah, 264 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: we talked about that earlier. Yeah, that's this is us 265 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 1: watching this footage for the second time together and watching 266 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: it again. It's sure doesn't have the feel if that's 267 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: the thing has that clown feel, that creepy clown feel. Yeah, 268 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: there's a sound it emanates. Can we just talk about 269 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: the sound for a minute, guys, tis a tis a 270 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: silly sound. It feels like that sound was either added 271 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: to the tape or is emanating from a source that 272 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: is not physically where that creature thing or whatever it 273 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: is in the video. Does that make sense? It does 274 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: make sense. It makes me think of, like, you know, 275 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: found footage films, the ones that do it right. They 276 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: take into account the fact that you're recording from a 277 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: simple one source, you know, situation like onboard mic on 278 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: a camera. But then you watch films like clover Field, 279 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: which I really love, but all of a sudden, there's 280 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: sounds coming willy nilly from every which where and uh, 281 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, crazy surround sound stuff happening, and what's meant 282 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: to be found? This has the feeling of a of 283 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: a sound that was was dubbed over. So I don't 284 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: know who's trying to pull our leg here what, but 285 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: it definitely makes my my spidy senses go off in 286 00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: terms of authenticity. Chronicle is another found footage film that 287 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: I think did it quite well. Do you guys remember Chronicle? Yeah, 288 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: I've never seen it, and I really want to see it. 289 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: It's like on my list of movies to watch. But 290 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: but in this case, guys, I'm I'm genuinely asking myself 291 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: if there is, if there was something encountered in there 292 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: that is outside of my understanding of something that could exist. 293 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: Because that thing, if it's real, whatever that creature thing was, 294 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is and I couldn't explain 295 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: to you what it was. Is it possible that it 296 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: could make sounds differently, or like emanate sound, or make 297 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: us sound, like throw a sound to a camera in 298 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: a weird way. I just don't know. Yeah, it's a 299 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: fair question. I mean, also, as we saw someone between 300 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: whenever this was created and when it arrived with us, 301 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: as someone messed with the information, the content, right, even 302 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: the metadata. So so it is possible that it is 303 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: possible that what we're hearing is maybe not what what 304 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: these characters appear to have heard. Anyhow, they they're distressed, 305 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: or they appear to be distressed in the footage, and 306 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: before that clip cuts out, they are running right there, 307 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: running from whatever they appear to have encountered. Whether that 308 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: is what of their colleagues plain and prank, or whether 309 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: it's something else. That's a great point. It could it 310 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: really could be who's the person they mentioned, Josh maybe 311 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: or those other students that they mentioned. It could be 312 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: a prank except for the fact that did you hear 313 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: what what Emily said in there? Um? I think the 314 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: Matt character said, you know, uh, why are you still 315 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: using that thing like speaking about the camera? I believe, 316 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: like why are you still recording anything like we're gonna 317 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: we're in a situation here, And that to me says 318 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: that they've been in there for a while, or they've 319 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: been lost for a while, and a long amount of 320 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: time has passed since the last thing we saw, or 321 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: at least that running clip when they're inside to when 322 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: they're inside that cave system or whatever it is. So 323 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: it really it does make me wonder about how long 324 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: they have actually been going through this ordeal and it 325 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: have how long they've been in that state of mind. 326 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: But it also makes me question if they're just being 327 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: messed with so because or are or are the people 328 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: who are shooting video messing with us ah And these 329 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: are fair questions. Mark. The question about time also really 330 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: stands out because clearly sometime has passed in the second clip, 331 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: which Mark, Neil and I also had a chance to 332 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: take a look at. But maybe let's play this and 333 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: describe what we're seeing. Also just to add uh, not 334 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: to bury the lead here. But there's another kind of 335 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: odd um presence I guess you could say is like 336 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: a the outline of a figure kind of down the hall. 337 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of whip panning with this 338 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: with this held handheld camera stuff. But I swear it 339 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: looks like like somebody in a dress or something like that. 340 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: And then the door slam shut. Yeah, there's a green 341 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: glow even going on there. Okay, that's a bridge too far. 342 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: Green slamming doors, spooky figures. Well, and there's another strange sound. 343 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: It's like a kind of a I don't laugh, I 344 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: guess is that what how you guys would describe it? 345 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: Sort of a Doctor Claw menacing villainous laugh, remember Dr Claw? 346 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Mark, I love the point you made earlier 347 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: about the passage of time, because in the next clip 348 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: we received, it appears that more time has passed. Uh. 349 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: These people um seemed to be stopped in their track 350 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: X and they're trying to figure out something they see 351 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: on a chalkboard. Well, let's just let's cueue it up, 352 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: let's play it, and let's let's talk about it. It 353 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: wasn't immortally, I don't know yet, but maybe we will 354 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: help us get out of here. Give you a notebook here? 355 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: When did you sketch these the first night? I thought 356 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: these are actually good. Thanks, give me the pencil, curious, 357 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: I just need a few minutes. I've all got it, okay, okay. 358 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: In this clip, it appears they have encountered what looks 359 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: to be a chalkboard covered with covered with stuff, and 360 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: we we paused the frame and we could look at 361 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: some of the language, some of the drawings. They seemed, um, 362 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: relatively uncollected, but but very dense. There's something that stood 363 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: out to me here, which is that they're saying their 364 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: names quite often, and people don't typically people don't typically 365 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: say each other's names to each other unless they're on 366 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: a podcast. Mark, unless you're on a podcast. Mark. Okay, Bill, 367 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: just remind everyone that's right exactly. But there there's it 368 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,239 Speaker 1: seems strange, right that they stopped in the middle of 369 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: running away. Yeah, but then it's we to us the 370 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: way this thing was edited together, it's in the middle 371 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: of them running away. But if you listen closely, Um, well, 372 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: let's just say what happens. Emily looks at this thing 373 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: and she's got the camera she's looking at the chalkboard. 374 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: It's got all this weird stuff on it, right, we're 375 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: looking at schematics, it appears or skeleton. There's a skeleton hand, 376 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 1: a bunch of weird writing that I can't decipher at 377 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: least at the moment. And after looking at it for 378 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: a while, it feels scientific in some way. It doesn't 379 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: look like a magical spell or anything like that that 380 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: I've seen in chalk before, but it is very very odd. Um. 381 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: After she looks at it, she asks for Matt's notebook, 382 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: right or sketch book or whatever it is. He's got 383 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: a book and she wants to like write some stuff 384 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: down about this thing. And Matt makes the statement, Oh, 385 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: I made those last night after you fell asleep. So 386 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: it's not it's not mid run. They've been here for 387 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: a while, they even like slept. Can I just say, 388 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm very appreciative of her support of his artistic ability 389 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: these and and that encouragement that she offers him. You know, 390 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: it's a real tender moment between these characters. Yeah, yeah, 391 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: she is kind uh And you know, if you look 392 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: at the video, Matt brings the camera down and shows 393 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: the sketches that he's made and they are genuinely good. 394 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: But to me, guys, they look like creatures, maybe some 395 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: of the creatures that we've possibly seen in this video 396 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: that he's making sketches of. This dude straight up looks 397 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: like a clown. Are you seeing this? Oh yeah, reminds 398 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: me of Zebo, the clown from Are You Afraid of 399 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: the Dark from the nineteen nineties. You guys remember that episode, 400 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: the Tale of Laughing in the Dark. So if these um, 401 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: if these students are being pranked by other students, then 402 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: that's well and good. It just makes the it's just 403 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: import taste on the part of the other students, right, 404 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of college kids out there 405 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: pranking each other. The thing is that these kids, uh 406 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: don't reappear right after after the clips we've played as 407 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 1: we're reporting this, like the university doesn't have any information. Um, 408 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: the family members we tried to track down. We ran 409 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: cold on that one. Law enforcement as well. Uh, these 410 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: are not the only clips who received. I suggest we 411 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: take a pause for a word from our sponsor and 412 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: then look at two more clips which might change the 413 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: conversation just a bit. And we've returned, so let's let's 414 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: take a look at clip three and see is is 415 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: this a prank? I mean, have you guys ever pranked 416 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: someone to this degree? Where your pranksters in your day? 417 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: I've never know if this is a prank. No, I've 418 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: never done it like that, But I do enjoy scaring people. 419 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: That is kind of one of my favorite things. I 420 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: hate it. Man. One time I jumped out and spooked 421 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: my my girlfriend's former roommate, and she was so scared 422 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: that she beat the out of me. Yeah, pounded me 423 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: with her fists. Still got the bruises. Also, I mean, 424 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, I've placed the odd whoopee cushion here and there, 425 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: but nothing this barroke. I don't know. I'm kind of 426 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: starting to lean in that direction. What's that movie behind you? Kidding? Kidding? 427 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: N Like, I got a monitor here I can see 428 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: myself to. I also point out I want to ask 429 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: you guys a question. And when faced with a real 430 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: you know, uh, confrontation with terror like this, do you 431 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: really say turn around, look at the spooky thing behind you? 432 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: Or wouldn't you just be like hold very still, like 433 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: a like a bee was was near you or something? 434 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: Or do you do you say turn around. That seemed 435 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: like a bit of a most stressed just exclaim. Um, 436 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: there's a small chance that someone who really has it 437 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: together might say, don't move, but that can also freak 438 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: out the listener because you'll instantly want to move right. 439 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: It's really you know, if you think about human psychology, 440 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: the fastest way to get someone to turn around is 441 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: to tell them don't look now, and then instantly right like, huh, really, well, 442 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm just in a don't look now moment. In that 443 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: previous clip, we just have to mention it. There is 444 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: a weird tiny human she's she's wearing a figure. Yeah, 445 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: you're right, you're right, there's a she's wearing pink. And 446 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: what do you hear in the video something about our 447 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: bag taunting? It was taunting, Yes, I wrote it down. 448 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: This voice says, you want to see what's in my bag? 449 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: I mean a bag? Are we talking of Halloween candy bag? 450 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. The camera cuts immediately after this thing whatever, 451 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: this whatever it is, is revealed, and then it cuts, 452 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: and that brings us to what's occurring in this clip. 453 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: Were up, get up? Hm? M hm, h no, has 454 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: her way out? Not turn on your recorder? Do you 455 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: need a record. So again, Um, I'm not sure how 456 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: much time has passed, but in this clip, it appears 457 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: the camera has fallen to the floor and the Matt character, 458 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: what identified is as Matt uh is unconscious and prone, 459 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: it appears, and we're not sure what happens due to 460 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: the way things are cutting out, but the Emily character 461 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: has either just woken up or remains conscious but seems 462 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: attempting to convey distress. Yeah, for sure, And oh what 463 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: does she say? Immediately after she wakes up? She gets 464 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: Matt awake, and she notices that the sketches or the 465 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: notebook or whatever it was it that they had in 466 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: the last scene that we were able to see is gone, right, 467 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: So and she says something like it was our key 468 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: or our way to get out of here. That's all. 469 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: I wonder how a notebook could have helped them. They 470 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: didn't really actually explain that part. Um, Maybe I don't know. Well, 471 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: remember we saw that chalkboard with some of those those 472 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: drawings and such. Maybe there was they copied something from there, 473 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: they got some there's a map. I no, I don't 474 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: know what. I'm just speculating here, because that's what they 475 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: were doing. I just don't understand what I saw on 476 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: that tchalkbird, how that translates to them escaping or you know, 477 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: being okay. But obviously there's something in there. It was 478 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: maybe the key to fighting the Yeah, maybe there's maybe 479 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: it's leading them to an exit. Maybe they had lost 480 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: their way. You know, not everybody does the Labyrinth and 481 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: Minotaur rules, right. Not everybody has a length of string 482 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: or handling Gretel style breaks. Bread problems were always a 483 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: terrible idea. I figured it out, guys. This is an 484 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: elaborate escape room that Matt and Emily's friends have set 485 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: up for them. That's what's happening. It's like that movie 486 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: the game, you know that that David Fincher movie, And 487 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: then at the end it turns out it was just 488 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: an elaborate birthday present. Sorry spoilers for the game. So obviously, uh, 489 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: we are divided. I believe I think this whole thing 490 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: could be uh, a spirited prank on on the part 491 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: of some other folks. So I mean again, we're working 492 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: with the footage we have. The only the only thing 493 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: that keeps me on the fence is the stone walling 494 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: from institutions we contacted. We have other we have like 495 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 1: a little bit more footage stuff that made us ask 496 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: who is talking to the Emily character, and whether or 497 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: not it's perhaps the person who sent us these packages 498 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: to begin with, should we play now, let's do it? 499 00:34:46,360 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: Stupid Matt, I told him we should stay together. So 500 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: that line is someone saying, quote, I have a secret, 501 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 1: and Matt, the Mat character has gone well yeah that yeah, Um, 502 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: I guess let's just describe it really quickly. They appear 503 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: to be running again. Then as soon as the camera 504 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: cuts one last time, the mad character, as you said, 505 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: Bill appears to be gone, just completely gone, and Emily 506 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: is alone. Emily is you know, saying how she wishes 507 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: that they didn't split up, they should have stayed together. 508 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: And I just want to describe where they are. It 509 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: looks like some kind of laboratory, right There's there's clearly 510 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: old or aging equipment in there that was probably that 511 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: was probably electronic in nature, at least appears that way, 512 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: but it's dilapidated. With This leaves us with more questions 513 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: than answers. I would say, And if you're listening now, 514 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: when you're the person who sent this to us, please 515 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: contact the authorities. We're at a bit of a cliffhanger. 516 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: As you know, folks, when we can't get the answers 517 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: through the official sources, we get as close to the 518 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: primary source as we can get, which means Mark Neil 519 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: that we are going to go find this castle ourselves. 520 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: We will update you when we have more information in 521 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: the meantime, what do you think? Let us know. We 522 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: can't wait to hear from you, especially when you find 523 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: out that this was a prank. This is a prank. 524 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: This is a two part prank from stuff they don't 525 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: want you to know. And Spirit Halloween. What we've been had. 526 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: We had ourselves, We've been had as Yeah, we did 527 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: we we we we we played ourselves. I'm not supposed 528 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: to do that, but we love Spirit Halloween. Spirit Halloweens create. 529 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: Where do they even come from? They just pop up 530 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: magically when the time of year comes around, and there's 531 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 1: like four hundred of them. I thought, I really thought 532 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: for a long time Spirit Halloween was a local thing, 533 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: and I got so excited when it would show up 534 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: every year. I've always been captivated by how they show up, 535 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: and as you guys know, I wrote a story explaining 536 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: that and maybe that's something we will explore in the future. 537 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: You might be asking yourself, guys, why are you in 538 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: such a such an autumnal spirit over over the course 539 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: of summer. And the answer is, at least in my opinion, 540 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: that it's always kind of Halloween. Uh. And and as 541 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: far as we know, the Emily and Matt characters are fine. 542 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:07,479 Speaker 1: There is no university. There is no homestead institution that, 543 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: to our knowledge housed uh a laboratory for unethical experimentation. However, 544 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: there is a there is a place called the Penhurst 545 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: State School and Hospital. And this was an institution that 546 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: opened way back in the nineteen early nineteen hundreds and 547 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: continued for eighty years of controversy before it closed in 548 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: You're right, we based this thing around you know, real 549 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: real stuff, right. Uh. We hope you had fun with this, 550 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: By the way, I really hope you enjoyed this as 551 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: much as we did. Uh, just being a little silly 552 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: being uh, Mark, Bill and Neil. Yeah. Yeah, the bizarre 553 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: world stuff they don't want you to to know. In case 554 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: you didn't catch it with the whole Ben's incredible Twilight 555 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: Zone intro um, I think from Michigan in this universe, 556 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, And we're still working out the backstory ourselves. 557 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: But also just to add the history is true, like 558 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: I mean the parts about the history of psychiatric care 559 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: or lack thereof, and abuses you know in in the 560 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: United States. Um, very much a real thing, as we 561 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: discussed in the past. Oh yeah, can we talk just 562 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 1: a little bit about the video itself, because the video 563 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: was was shot by Spirit Halloween and sent to us, 564 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: we didn't know what was going to be in it, 565 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: and uh, there's so many fun things in there, and 566 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: you know what it is, those those creatures that we 567 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: are describing, those sounds, those are I hope this isn't 568 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: spoiling things. They might make me take this out. Those 569 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: are the animatronics that are going to be featured this 570 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: season at Spirit Halloween. Which, uh, animatronics are a big 571 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: deal with Spirit So there's like individual clues to which 572 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: characters are going to be around this year. It's a 573 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: big deal apparently, Like there's all these Spirit Halloween stands 574 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: that are like, you know, try to think are out 575 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: what the newest animatronics that are gonna be unveiled are 576 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: going to be by doing some pretty serious internet sleuthing. Um. 577 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, hats off to you Halloween nerds. Yeah, it's 578 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: the most wonderful time of the year, as they say 579 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: in that song that I'm pretty sure is about Halloween. 580 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: But hey, it's always Halloween in America, is it not. Uh, 581 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: we are going to call it a day, as Matt said, 582 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: And this is our Matt, the actual Matts and the 583 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: actual Nol and they call me Ben. As Matt said, 584 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: We do hope you enjoyed this. We hope it gave 585 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: you a chuckle, and we are going to return with 586 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: our actual episodes very soon. We can't wait to hear 587 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: from you. 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