1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: At least. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: Gold in Steelers Nation Radio. 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 3: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. He 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 3: is the Matt Williamson. It is a beautiful It really 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 3: is Thursday today. 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow. Yeah. 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 4: I am efforting to try to get down to a 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 4: CDC at ACTU. Sure, and I'm not sure I'm be 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 4: able to swing it, but a couple of my buds 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 4: last minute, Hey you want to go. I'm like, what 13 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 4: an awesome night that would be, you know, yeah, trying 14 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 4: to make that happen, right, had. 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 5: These things people who sell tickets. 16 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 4: I know, I'm just I got a lot of balls 17 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 4: in the air and I'm not sure I can get 18 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 4: down there in time. 19 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: It was last minute. 20 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 4: We called an audible to the line of scrimmage, right, Okay, 21 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm doubtful, but I'm highly questionable. 22 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 23 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 5: I know that's one of your bands, oh, top five 24 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 5: for sure, yep. 25 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 4: But we'd like to get down there. But I'm gonna try. 26 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: It's a Thursday, the Thursday, right, beautiful? 27 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: Yeah? What's shaking? Oh? Not much? 28 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 5: Are Matt Williamson's top five bands. 29 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 4: Ooh, number one is clearly Zeppelin, too, is Guns N' Roses, 30 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 4: threes Floyd. It's funny I actually thought about this recently. 31 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: Otherwise I would be this good at it. I would 32 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 4: say a CDC's four. Then I don't know how about sales. 33 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't know the order. Let me kick some things 34 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: around here. 35 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 5: But I think I go through different phases. Right, You see, 36 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 5: mine are all pretty much the same genre, right. 37 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: I have a bunch of Like, I listened to a 38 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: lot of different stuff at different times, particularly in my life, 39 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: but right right, bands that I go back to all 40 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: the time, Pearl Jams one. 41 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 5: They wouldn't be my top five. If you're strong, they're 42 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 5: always there. 43 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: Joy Division Slash New Order, and they got jobbed in 44 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this year. They 45 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 3: should have been in those guys. If you go back 46 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: and listen to early Joy Division, early New Order, whether 47 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: you like quote unquote post punk new wave music or not, 48 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: they set the stage, set the stage for everything that 49 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 3: came after it in the eighties everything. 50 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: They were big time trendsetters, huge, huge, listen to that 51 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: all time. But they're definitely your top five, Oh without 52 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: a doubt. 53 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, if I had like five albums that I 54 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: had to go live on an island and I got 55 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 3: these five albums, there would be a there would be 56 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 3: a New Order definitely one of them. 57 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 4: The Wall would be my one. Well yeah, but I 58 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: also cheat and you get a double double, you. 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: Get a double. 60 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: I would take like Substance by New Order, which is 61 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: a double album that's not cheat of all their it's 62 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: a they don't call it the greatest Hits album and 63 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 3: like it came out in like eighty six, what kind 64 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: is Okay? They just remixed a bunch of their songs. 65 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, they do that a lot. 66 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 3: So you get the the double album greatest Hits. See 67 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: that's sort of to me. 68 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: That's not cheating because the plane's going down, your CD 69 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 4: collection is floating away, and you can only save one. 70 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 3: Right, I'm taking like I'm gonna have to swim to this, 71 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: swim to this island, right, holding this right CD or 72 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 3: tape or album the waters I swim. 73 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, you will grab the double, but that's it's not 74 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 4: any heavier to carry, you know, to swim to shore. Yeah, 75 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: so you grab the wall and you're like, oh physical 76 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 4: Graffiti's right, there is a double two. But oh well, 77 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 4: I gotta pick between my kids. 78 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: You know, Zeppelin will be high on my Zeppelin will 79 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: be high on my list. 80 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, what's that three? 81 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: Uh? 82 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 5: Let me thinkly considering Van Halen is my fifth spot. 83 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: I'm a big Van Halen fan, particularly, I like the 84 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: early stuff better. But I mean that's I cut my 85 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: teeth on that. Like one of my first albums I bought. 86 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: Was Yeah, yeah, no one you know, hm, anything that 87 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: I had a tape of was. I was like one 88 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 4: of the first people I knew who went to CDs, 89 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 4: So I only had like fifteen tapes. Yeah, and I 90 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 4: didn't invest heavy and then I was like, oh CDs 91 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 4: I went crazy on. 92 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: Now they're Frisbees, Tom Petty and Heartbreakers. I was just saying, Petty, 93 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: You've you bring up a lot. Yeah, Like if I'm 94 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: driving around with you often, like on the radio, you'll 95 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: put the Petty station on. 96 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, fantastic, fantastic. 97 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: I mean like beetles and stones or it's almost like 98 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: cheating like that right right now. Yeah, but I think 99 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 4: they need to be mentioned. 100 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: They do. They're like I thought about. 101 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: The WHO classification of the who's very yeah, very popular, 102 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: very good. My fifth, I don't know my fifth would 103 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 3: be fifth. I have to look through my well, you 104 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: don't have I have. I still have all my old 105 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: tape and record and yeah, yeah, and CD collection I 106 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: probably caught. I'll bet you I had. I have spent 107 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: in my lifetime twenty five thousand dollars on music, which 108 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: for young people like justin over here, we're looking going, 109 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: are you out of your mind? 110 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: Twenty five thousand songs and ninety nine cents each. 111 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I have albums I have. I have 112 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: a ton of tapes. Yeah, I've got two hundred CDs. 113 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: You know, I just I like music back to. 114 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 4: A CDC They would not have been in my top 115 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: five ten years ago or so. They clearly would have 116 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 4: been when I was like high school, you know, teenager 117 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 4: learning about them. But I kind of burned out on them. 118 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 4: And we actually had this conversation walking out of here 119 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 4: yesterday or the day before, because to pull back the curtain, 120 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 4: when you walk into here, DV is playing. 121 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 5: We always get DV, and nine times out of ten 122 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 5: it's and a. 123 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 1: CD is definitely the tune that I listened to most 124 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: before and after the drive, not to. 125 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 5: My own long Time, Long Way to the Top. 126 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: The theme song of our show is one of the 127 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 3: which is one of the they don't play it. They've 128 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 3: never played they don't play it in concert. 129 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: So if you go, you don't, don't behold your A 130 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: long Way. 131 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: To the Top because that's a Bond Scott song. 132 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: That then they do play Bond Scott tunes. 133 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 3: They do, but they don't do that one because that 134 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: one is kid like, like he learned to play the 135 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: bagpipes for that. 136 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: Song, gotcha, gotcha? 137 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 5: So they just they don't. 138 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: We used to have it. We have to wait until 139 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: the bagpipes came in. 140 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: There's a long it's a long way to get to 141 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: the start of the shows, A long way to the top. 142 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 3: You gotta wait for the bagpipe. Yeah, if you want 143 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: long time listeners of the show will know this, like 144 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: you had to wait for the bagpipes to start. 145 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: If you want to rock and roll, you gotta wait. 146 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 147 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: Fifth Man one, that's a tough one. 148 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: Ben Halen's making a strong case in the battle. Hmm. 149 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: I go through stretches where I really like you too, 150 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: I don't like you too, Yeah, back and forth with that. 151 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: Hmm. 152 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 4: I never owned a lot of Motley Crewe discs, but 153 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: there are ten best songs I appreciated Strong, real Strong. 154 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: You know you know who else I really like Bob 155 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: Seger Strong too. This never saw him catalog like Pursuit 156 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: to Saw. I never got to see Segar live either, 157 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: but PURSUEA saw him on his final tour. Bob Seger 158 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: turned eighty earlier. His name was in the news story recently. 159 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: And he said, you know, I wasn't a huge Seeger fan. 160 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: And then he went out and played for like two 161 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: and a half three hours and every song. 162 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: Was a hit. 163 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 4: Every one of my buddies I saw him have said 164 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 4: the exact same thing, like, just go see him live 165 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 4: and you'll you'll move him up a tier in your well. 166 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 5: I forgot about that one, right, yeah, I forgot about 167 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 5: that one. 168 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: And you know every tune, Yeah, they've all been on 169 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: DVD a thousand times. Yeah right right. 170 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: But I lived next door. So when I was a 171 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: kid growing up in tiny Freiburg, PA, I lived next 172 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: door to my mom's family. My mom was the oldest 173 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: oh yeah yeah, her two younger brothers, one was ten 174 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: years older than me, the other one was five years older. 175 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: Than me, okay, So we were always influences. So the 176 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean. 177 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was the seventies, you know, they had 178 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 3: they had a room upstairs in between their bedrooms. It 179 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: was like it was a closet, but they turned it 180 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: into a like just music listening center. Had had the 181 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: shelves near the stereo. All the records were in there 182 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: and stuff and just go in there and listen to 183 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 3: tunes hours at a time and you look at the 184 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: It was something special about being able to look at. 185 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: The album cover. Yeah, I never had that, they said. 186 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: I went from the look. 187 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: At it in the and other times they had these 188 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: little messages in there and that that's funny. 189 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: No, there was. 190 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 4: That's a different world that these people still wouldn't understand. 191 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 4: And it was even a little older for me. But man, 192 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 4: seventh and eighth grade, when I got home from school, 193 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 4: I put in a Zeppelin or Doors tape every day 194 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: and like wore them out and I've. 195 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: Probably odd on the doors there. They sound too much alike, Yeah, 196 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean, but they were top a list for a long. 197 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 5: But they were always listening like the Stones and the 198 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 5: Beatles for ye. 199 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the. 200 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: One my uncle Thius who's five years older than me, 201 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: was a huge Seeger fan, and so I was introduced 202 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: to you know, I'm ten years old listening to Seager. 203 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: It was like, you know, all the all of it, 204 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: you know, just stuck with that. And my older u 205 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 3: uncle Matthew was a huge Elton John, Guy Strong. There's 206 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: a big catalog, Garrett. But they also had a lot 207 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 3: of cross stuff that they listened to, like America and 208 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: No Yeah, yeah, just all the stuff from the seventies. 209 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: It was I mean, America's Greatest Hits, Kansas, Greatest Hits Kansas. 210 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 4: You had form in the cars still right, all right, 211 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: I mean there's a ton to pick fromm yeah, none 212 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 4: of those would be my top band. 213 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: Elton Strong, Elton's Government, Elton. 214 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 5: John is the first concert I ever saw. I went 215 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 5: with my uncle Matt. 216 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 217 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,119 Speaker 5: We went to the Blossom Music Center in Cleveland. 218 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 4: You mentioned Boston. Boston was my first concert there, you go. 219 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 4: I was in the Civic arena with my uncle Ken 220 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 4: and they weren't great seats, but they were only memorable 221 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 4: seats because we were the first row, not on the floor, 222 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 4: but you might as well bet on the floor, right Yeah. 223 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 4: But I was young enough I stood on the hockey 224 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 4: boards and he just kind of held me so I 225 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 4: didn't fall over. But I mean it was a long view, 226 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 4: but if you're staying on the hockey boards, you could 227 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 4: see pretty well, you know, third stage. 228 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 3: Short little known fact as well, like and I've seen 229 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: him in concert, But Ted Nugent, it was huge in 230 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 3: the late seventies. Sure, he had aunts and uncles who 231 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: lived and who lived in a little town that I 232 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 3: grew up in and would come back. 233 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 5: And visit on occasion. Okay, so Nugent was a big 234 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 5: I can see that. 235 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure the whole town loved him. 236 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: Well, not the whole town because you know, well, I 237 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: guess he's a small conservative town. 238 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: My mom, right, right, right, right, right, understood. 239 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 3: But my my, my two uncles were friends with a 240 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 3: Nugent family. They were first. 241 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: Cousins of the musi. 242 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: Okay, so one time it was I played phone tag 243 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: with Ted Nugent thirty years ago. He was coming to 244 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh and I was also did the outdoor stuff for 245 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: the Observer Reporter and he was coming in. I'm like, well, 246 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: wouldn't it be great to talk to Ted Nugent for 247 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 3: an outdoors Yeah? 248 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: Right, And you got a little bit of a hook. Yeah, 249 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: right right, We're. 250 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: Going to talk about Freiburg and a lot of stuff. 251 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: And I call him, I call his publicist. Oh, that'd 252 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: be great, Ted to love, He'll love to talk to 253 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: you about that. 254 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: Fantastic. 255 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 256 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 257 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 5: He called at six o'clock in the morning to the office. 258 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: Was he still up or he's just. 259 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 5: Getting up He's Remember he's not a drinker. 260 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: I assumed he was a drinker. I don't know. 261 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 5: He doesn't do anything. 262 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: I know he does outdoor stuff, but he hunts. 263 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: Okay, so you know you're getting up a six o'clock 264 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: in the morning because you're gonn go out and kill something. 265 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 266 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 3: But I worked with Bob Grove at the time, who 267 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: now does a lot of the penguin stuff. People recognize 268 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: the name if they follow the penguins. Bob and I 269 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 3: had desks that were next to each other. Well, they 270 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: sent the message the switchboard operators I was new at 271 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: the paper, sent the message to Bob's phone. 272 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Bob. 273 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: Bob is a big nudgent fan. He thought that was 274 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 3: the best thing ever. I got a message like I 275 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 3: got a message here from for you, from Ted freaking nudgent. 276 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: Like, never delete it. That's the best. He probably still 277 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: has it. That's awesome, very cool. I don't know how 278 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: we get that, is right. 279 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 4: I don't either, but along those lines, I'm still blown 280 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 4: away that our buddy west Yueler rollerblades with uh James Taylor, Right, 281 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 4: his dad, who's in the orchestra toured with Taylor. 282 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: Dad's a big deal. His dad is a big deal. 283 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: We need to get a more incorporated dad. 284 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: When you get off in Pittsburgh and you're walking through 285 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 3: the airport and there are videos of his dad playing 286 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: the violin. 287 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I guess James Taylor's workout was he'd go 288 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 4: rollerblading during the day or whatever. And Wes was a 289 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 4: hockey player, and he's like they became buds. They were 290 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 4: rollerblading buddies. 291 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, flying around town with j T. See fire and 292 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 5: rain dude. 293 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: A friend. 294 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 295 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: Anyways, let's get to a break. 296 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 5: We'll get probably, we'll get back on track with football. 297 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: I guess my fifth one too. I'm gonna think about that. 298 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 5: They about to give that some thought here. Yeah, it 299 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 5: might just be the Beatles. I know that's boring. The 300 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 5: Stones better than the Beatles. 301 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: I sort of do too, but put an album on 302 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 4: start to finish it, because you've heard every song on there. 303 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 4: There's some there's a lot of Stone stuff. I would 304 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 4: be happy if I never heard again. I mean, because 305 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 4: they put out so much. They're great. Their top forty songs, 306 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 4: which is amazing that they have forty unbelievable. 307 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: Songs might made. 308 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you put on any album, just hit 309 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 4: play like people used to do. One out of three 310 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 4: or two out of three is like, you know, we're 311 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 4: the Beatles. It's like whoa you put on Sergeant Peppers 312 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: forget about it? 313 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 5: Well, sorry, Prappers. 314 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: Come on, I mean that's a pretty strong case meet 315 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: the Beatles or something like that and tell me you're 316 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: yeah right. 317 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: Right right. 318 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 4: I mean the early Beatles stuff is early Stones, though, 319 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 4: is stronger than early Beatles. Yeah, not even close. Yeah, 320 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 4: and much harsher, much harser. 321 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 5: Like Painted Black is still one of the all time 322 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 5: great songs. 323 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: Come on, oh yeah, sympathy. I mean, I mean they're again, 324 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 4: they're their catalog is awesome. But listening to every disc over, 325 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 4: you know, straight through would be a marathon with the Stones, 326 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,479 Speaker 4: and not all of it would be great. 327 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, anyways, We're gonna take a break. He is 328 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lallistellers listening to the Drive 329 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: here on the Steelers Audio Network. 330 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: We will be back with more right after. 331 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 332 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 333 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 334 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 5: Welcome back. 335 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly. 336 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt I'm looking here 337 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: at a headline super quick. 338 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Metallica and Fleetwood Mac also should. 339 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 5: Have been Fleetwood Mac will be hid my list. 340 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: I think the older I get, the more I like 341 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: them too. 342 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 5: The catalog is strong. 343 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 4: Real strong, especially if you can include Stevie Nicks on 344 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 4: her own well. I mean that's half cheating. 345 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 5: That's kind of cheat. 346 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of chee. 347 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 5: I even like some of the like the pre Nick Buckingham. 348 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: Stuff is that's a strong group. 349 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 5: I mean, oh well, at least he mentioned oh Well's 350 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 5: a great song. 351 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: Rihanna's probably number one for me, like a bellth of 352 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: the night. Wouldn't you love the lower I actually kind 353 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: of like Sarah, But it's a lot to pick fromm Yeah, 354 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot yeah. 355 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 4: Anyways, that dawned on me when I was getting on coffee. 356 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, at least got bring a Fleetwood Metallica is strong. 357 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was kind of you know, my wife and 358 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: I went to Maui a few right, right, and I 359 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: wanted to go to Mick Fleetwood's bar. 360 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Maui. That's cool. 361 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 5: It burned down with it, yeah yeah, And she didn't 362 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 5: want to go, so we. 363 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: Didn't didn't go. Yeah, that's how that goes. 364 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 5: It would have been cool though, Yeah. 365 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: Heck, yeah, I'm sure there's Fleetwood Max stuff up around. Imagine, 366 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: imagine it's not much of a gimmick. 367 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know it is. Amis a bar, Yeah, 368 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: when they're in a bar. He owns a bar right 369 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: in Fleetwood. 370 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: A huge van. He could probably get himself a bar right. 371 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 5: Probably owned several bars. So I'm alright. 372 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking here at the headline. 373 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 3: Matt George Pickens traded the Cowboys. How Jerry Jones pulled 374 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: off a no lose move for the explosive wide receiver. 375 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: How is it a no lose move for the Cowboys. 376 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: There's no trade that's no lose, absolutely right, I mean, 377 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: he could get hurt. He could. I mean anything, you 378 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: gave something up. 379 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: You gave something up. I understand they didn't give anything 380 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 3: up right now, right right right, but they got to 381 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 3: pay a salary. Sure, sure they got it. I mean 382 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: this isn't I know he could go in there. 383 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 4: I mean, he's never been the second fiddle. He's going 384 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 4: to be the second fiddle he's That would be my concern. Yeah, 385 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 4: you know, like when you mentioned this before, you know, 386 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 4: the other day. I mean, he's not going to probably 387 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 4: get the target share that he's used to. No, I mean, 388 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 4: Lamb's not going away, And how does George handle that? 389 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 4: You know that that could be combustible. I also, this 390 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 4: is nothing to do with that move. I hate when 391 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 4: people are like one team won and one team lost. 392 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 4: I think it's a great move for the Cowboys. 393 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: I really do. 394 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 4: I mean I don't know that it's a no lose move, right, 395 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 4: but I think it's a great move for where they're 396 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 4: at and if it doesn't work out or hit free 397 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 4: agency and they'll eventually get some kind of comp pick back, 398 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: assuming they don't spend. 399 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: Like so, people are looking at this and going, well, 400 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: the Steelers, they could have waited and got a third 401 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 3: round compensatory pick back next year. You don't know that. 402 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: They don't know that, right. 403 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: I mean, if he goes out this seaon, if he 404 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: would have gone out this year, blow out his knee, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 405 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: you're not getting a third third round compensatory pickback them 406 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: two years from now, right. 407 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 4: I mean, first off, it's a waiting game. It's a 408 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 4: year later, which you want all the picks you can 409 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 4: for this draft. And people, I love the comp game, 410 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 4: and I think the Steelers are very wary of it 411 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 4: now more than ever and are playing that on purpose. 412 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 4: And they're they're bringing in guys that get cut as 413 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 4: opposed to free agents. Right, they must listen to the show. 414 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 4: But you don't know what you're going to spend in 415 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 4: free agency. You don't know that's going to yield to three. 416 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 4: You may spend more than you let go, right, you know, 417 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 4: in the course of the equation. And Dallas might too. 418 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: They have been real active lately with outside the team. 419 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 5: But let's say they get to the end C championship 420 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 5: this year and they want. 421 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 4: They're gonna go get a big piece, or there's a 422 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 4: free agent quarterback the Steelers want to sign, or you know, 423 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 4: I mean there's. 424 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: You don't know, you don't know until you know. And 425 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 3: case in point on this is Deontay Johnson. Remember the 426 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: Ravens played to the game. Deontay gets traded to Carolina, right, 427 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: the Ravens then trade for Deontay. Deontay decides, I'm not 428 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 3: gonna play. I refuse to go into the field. Hmm. 429 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 5: If Pickens does something like. 430 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: That, it's just a no lose situ, right, Okay, they 431 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 3: cut him, Houston. 432 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 5: Picks him up, Deonta you're talking about right. 433 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 3: A couple of weeks later, Houston cuts him going into 434 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: the playoffs. Baltimore signs him back but tells him to 435 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 3: stay home because we're gonna play the comp game. Here, 436 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: want you in the building, right, We don't want you 437 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: into building. We're gonna pay you, but we're gonna play 438 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 3: the comp game. 439 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: Which is a bit of a loophole, but so be it. 440 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 5: Didn't work out. 441 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: No, it didn't because he got signed to a vet 442 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 3: minimum deal after the comp picks were done, right, like 443 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 3: nobody was going to do them the a that favor 444 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 3: be he wasn't getting that kind of contract nobody wanted to. 445 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 3: Based on what happened to him last year. 446 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 4: I mean, he's on four teams in a year and 447 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: now he's on his fifth. I mean that's all you 448 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 4: need to know. 449 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: Now, that's a strange situation, Like I don't think that's 450 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: the route. 451 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 3: But if if you would have told me two years ago, 452 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson is going to be a free agent. 453 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, and nobody's going to give him. 454 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 4: Nobody wants anything more than a than a Brownson. 455 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: Better minimum, no signing bonus. That's that's a prove it deal. O, 456 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 3: that's a you're that's an deal. 457 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 4: Right right, Yeah, that's I don't know what percentage. I'd 458 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 4: say fifty to fifty chance to make the roster deal. 459 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 4: I mean he doesn't play special teams either, right, I 460 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 4: mean in his situation, if. 461 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: You're the fourth receiver, you better at least do something 462 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: on kickoffs. 463 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: So don't tell me that, Hey, this is a no 464 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: lose situation for the Cowboys because they can lose. 465 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 5: No, Yeah, anybody could lose on a trade. 466 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 4: Sure, sure they either team could look at it in 467 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 4: three years and be like we should have made that track. Yeah, 468 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 4: I mean and that. 469 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: I can't remember the exact so think about when the 470 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 3: Bears traded for Chase Claypool. Oh, we've solved our wide 471 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: receiver problem. Yeah, we've got a round pick, a second 472 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 3: round pick next year. Then they get the first overall picking, 473 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 3: they get the first overall pick and draft they get 474 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: the first pick in the second round. 475 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 5: Now, all of a sudden, done, look quite so good. 476 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 4: I don't think it'll happen, But who the heck knows. 477 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 4: The Steelers might end up with the first pick in 478 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 4: the third round from Dallas. 479 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: That could happen. 480 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 3: Anything could happen, right right, Dallas could win the Super Bowl. Yeah, 481 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott and Michael Parsons could get hurt again and 482 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 3: they could win three games. 483 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, you don't know. 484 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 5: Rookie head coach, right right, right, No. 485 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 4: And I think that's gonna be a lot for him 486 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 4: to take on, too, the rookie head coach, just dealing 487 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: with a lot of personalities, and everything's bigger in Texas, 488 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 4: and there's always a microscope on Dallas and all those things. 489 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: But I like him. I like the move for them, 490 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: I mean, for where they're at. 491 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 4: I think it's not no risk, but it's not a 492 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 4: ton to give up, especially for now. 493 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: Makes all sense in the world. For the Steelers as well. 494 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: You know, I get it. 495 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, but just. 496 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: To think any trade is no risk is crazy. Though. 497 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 3: The subhead on it is Jones opted not to draft 498 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 3: a receiver after missing out on Teed McMillan, then made 499 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 3: a great deal weeks later. 500 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, right. 501 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: Again, right now, it looks like a good deal six 502 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: months from now, might not? 503 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: Right? 504 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 5: Right, No, he's throwing his helmet on the sidelines again. 505 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: We're refusing to go into The Steelers got ripped for 506 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 3: the Deontay Johnson trade. If you remember at the time too, 507 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: how could they give? How could they trade him away? 508 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: Well? Sometimes some tracks in his addition, you know, I mean. 509 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 3: They were a better overall team last year without Deontay 510 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: Johnson than they had been the previous year. And that 511 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 3: wasn't all Deontay Johnson. It's not the only reason, right. 512 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 5: But you. 513 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: And I don't even want to I I never saw Deontay. 514 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: He was always fine with me, let's just put it 515 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: that way. 516 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 4: But I never saw a work ethic issue. I never 517 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 4: saw any of that guy on the field. And but 518 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 4: you know there were times when they were less than 519 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 4: happy with his effort on the field. Yeah, Oh, there's 520 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 4: some instances on tape that aren't great. Yeah, that's for sure. 521 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 4: It's odd because there's such a track record and they're 522 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: all different human beings in different stages of their life. 523 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 4: But it's amazing the receivers or with Steelers post Steelers, 524 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 4: it's like night and day. I mean, Johnson's like the 525 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 4: best example. But Juju ab Claypool. I mean, I'm not 526 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 4: saying Pickens is the same as them, but the history 527 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 4: of the of the organization says, we know when to 528 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 4: get rid of these guys, you know, and or maybe 529 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 4: they get the most out of big characters or you know, 530 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 4: and they're not all hard. 531 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: To deal with. I don't think Claypool was a problem. Yeah, yeah, 532 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: you know what I think about it. 533 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, but they sure seem to know when to hold 534 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 4: him and when to fold him on White House. 535 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 3: And so this is the the bigger question in some instances, 536 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 3: because they've taken these guys in the second or third rounds. 537 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: You've you've kind of taken it a little bit of 538 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 3: a chance on a guy on a character, right right right, 539 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 3: or they be first rounder, or they be first ris 540 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: Antonio Brown was a little bit different because he very 541 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 3: he was a six round draft pick, and you know, 542 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 3: it was what it was. 543 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 4: That being said, I think I don't remember it being 544 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 4: public because it was longer ago, it's a smaller school, 545 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 4: it was a much later pick. But I think there 546 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 4: was things on AB when he got drafted to I mean, 547 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 4: some concerns about his character and so he's a different cat. 548 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 5: You know, yeah, you know, not the not the what 549 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 5: he became, right right, right. 550 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: Right, But yeah, I mean he was a six round 551 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 3: pick for a reason, and he didn't run a great 552 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: fear forty that kind of stuff. 553 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 5: I don't even know that he trained for the forty or. 554 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: Any kind of stuff. 555 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: But I mean, yeah, if you look at the guys 556 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: that they have traded away, right. 557 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 4: I mean, even like Ab, they only got the sixty 558 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 4: six pick in the draft for him when he was 559 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 4: really really good. Yeah, but I'd rather have the sixty 560 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 4: sixth pick in the draft than post stealer AB. 561 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 3: That was another one. It turned out to be the first. 562 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 3: It's either the first or second pick in the third round. 563 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: It was an early one. Yeah yeah, yeah, like the 564 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: Claypool one. 565 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 5: But they all were way better here than there, yeah, 566 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 5: I mean by a thousand. Yeah, even juju. 567 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 4: I mean all those guys you know that for different reasons. 568 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 4: That doesn't mean Pickings will never catch a ball. 569 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't mean he may go to Dallas and 570 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 3: be great. Good for him if he does, I I 571 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 3: for his sake, I hope he is. 572 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm bringing it up more for the Steeler perspective 573 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 4: of I know there's people that don't love the trade 574 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 4: that are listening and there's something that get it. 575 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: Their track records pretty darn good though, of when to 576 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: move on from those guys. 577 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't do it for just no reason, right, And. 578 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 4: It's not because he can't run anymore or he can't 579 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 4: catch anymore. It's well, he's kind of worn out as 580 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 4: welcome or we see a combustible situation. 581 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: Here, you know, it's better to get out of. 582 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 4: Bill Belichick's known not always right, but known for I'm 583 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 4: always gonna get out on a player a year early 584 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 4: than too late, you know. Like I remember they trade 585 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 4: Richard Seymour to the Raiders. I'm like, this dude's awesome. Yeah, 586 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 4: and he was still good for the Raiders, but they 587 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 4: thought the end was coming and he wasn't great long 588 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 4: for the Raiders, you know, they still got a first 589 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 4: round pick out of the guy. You know, unless you're Brady, 590 00:26:59,200 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 4: he's gonna move on. 591 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: For I've seen the argument Steelers should have gotten more 592 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 3: for Pickens. Would you just mentioned ab Yeah, yeah, you 593 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 3: got a three and a five for Antonio Brown, who's a 594 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 3: way better player. You got a three and f five 595 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 3: for George Pickens. 596 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, frankly, the Claypool trade and 597 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 4: I thought this the time was a huge over was 598 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 4: a flee Yeah, I mean, I like, even if that 599 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 4: was the last pick in the second round, not knowing 600 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 4: the Bears are going to be terrible. But on the 601 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 4: day of the trade, on the drive, I'm sure we 602 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 4: were like, but they got a lot from that's an 603 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 4: overpaid right, I mean it's draft picks are really really 604 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 4: valuable in this league. 605 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean, there aren't many guys that go first or you. 606 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 3: Know, beyond quarterbacks. And this was my argument with the 607 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 3: whole Miles Garrett situation. You don't see non quarterbacks traded 608 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 3: for first round draft picks all that often in the NFL. 609 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 4: And it happened, It used to happen with a little 610 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 4: more regularity that there was like the Khalil Max and 611 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: Jamal Adams that were. 612 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 5: For two first Yeah, not in recent years. 613 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 4: And it hasn't worked out and the league learned its lesson. 614 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 4: It's really what happened. It's like you have to for 615 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 4: you to I always bring back to Sean Watson. But 616 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 4: I mean, like, and he's even a quarterback, Like for 617 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 4: the Watson trade to even be ye if he was 618 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 4: a stellar humanity, wow, yeah, to be worth what they 619 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 4: gave up, he had to be a top five quarterback. 620 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 4: I mean that's hard bar to top five I mean 621 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 4: pro bowler every year and be the face of the 622 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 4: organization and stellar human being and all those things. And 623 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 4: you already had to check against you when he made 624 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 4: the deal. Nobody's given up two first round picks for 625 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 4: Jamal Adams anymore. 626 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: Close. 627 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: That's kind of like a Miles Garrett mac was a 628 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 3: little bit longer ago. Yeah, But even at the time 629 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: the Adams deal panned that like are you kidding me? 630 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: Right? 631 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 4: That was dumb, right. I mean they're looking at him like, oh, 632 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 4: we got our next Cam Chancellor. Even if you do, 633 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,239 Speaker 4: he's not worth two first round he's in safety. It's 634 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 4: an in the box guy. I mean, even if he 635 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 4: was everything cracked up to be. It's a bad deal. 636 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the last I don't know, three or four 637 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: years just haven't seen that. I think I think teams 638 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: have wisened up to norse right, we're not going to 639 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: do that. 640 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: We're not going to do that. 641 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 5: That's crazy talk. 642 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 4: There was a little stretch there and I think both 643 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 4: sides ended up being happy. Where Aj Brown, Tyreek Hill, 644 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs went for like a first. You know, Tyreek 645 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 4: was a little more and both teams, you know, Minnesota 646 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 4: moved on. 647 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: To Justin Jefferson. They lucked out. 648 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 4: That went well the Eagles because they took Reager instead 649 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 4: of Jefferson and kept messing on receiver. 650 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 5: Play it the other way. 651 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 4: I'd be like, we have to get a guy. We're 652 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 4: terrible at it going out and getting receivers, but we'll 653 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 4: give up the first for Aj Brown and that worked. 654 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 4: I think both sides are happy. And the Tyreek deal, 655 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 4: you know, the Chiefs are up against it. They were 656 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 4: awesome players coming off their first contract, and they were 657 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 4: like about to come off their first contract. 658 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: They were young and great. 659 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 5: You know, really, if you look at it, the only 660 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 5: guy the only. 661 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: Receive their level. Now they got traded. 662 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: I mean Santonio Holmes was traded, I believe for a fifth. 663 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 4: I think it was a fifth, right, which I thought 664 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 4: the time was extremely low. I wasn't working with the 665 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 4: Steelers at the time, but. 666 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: And he was okay with the Jets. He never had 667 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 3: a thousand yard season with the Jets. Yeah, it was okay, 668 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 3: fifty two for seven, forty six, fifty one for six, 669 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 3: fifty four, twenty for two, seventy two, twenty three for four, 670 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: seventy four to fifty six, and then done. 671 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: Been done. 672 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I kind of forgot about that one because 673 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 4: that was noticeably before the others. But there's five or 674 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 4: six of them, including that one, where pretty prominent receiver 675 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 4: that was in every fantasy league or starter and a 676 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 4: lot of success here. Didn't do I think at the 677 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 4: next spot, or did much less. Yeah, I mean Ab 678 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 4: was great when he got trade. He was even good 679 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 4: with the Bucks. 680 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: AB's last game in Pittsburgh, Yeah, yeah, it was that 681 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 3: the same game, that was the same stame. He was 682 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 3: the best player in the NFL that day. 683 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 684 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care what position you were looking at, 685 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 3: I don't care. Yeah, he was the best player in 686 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 3: the league. 687 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 4: That day, and I would bet there were several days 688 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 4: of his life that he was about player in the league. 689 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 4: I mean, he was the best receiver in the league 690 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 4: for a long time, or right there with Oleo. 691 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't trade Mark Thavis Bryant, right, I. 692 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 5: Don't believe so. And he just got suspended and they 693 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 5: released him. 694 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was born a little too early. Yeah yeah, yeah. Anyways, 695 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 4: let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson. 696 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 4: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Driver. You're 697 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 4: on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, and now I'll be 698 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 4: back with more right after this. 699 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 700 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the 701 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 2: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio. 702 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: And welcome back. 703 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 5: I'm Dale Lolly. 704 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt. Last weekend, it 705 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 3: was announced that Washington d C Will host twenty twenty 706 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 3: seven NFL Draft. There's going to be a press conference 707 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 3: on Monday on the north Shore Great Lawn to kind 708 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 3: of discuss some of the. 709 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 5: Particulars of the early particulars of the draft. 710 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: Here in Pittsburgh. I didn't know that. 711 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just got the I just got to release 712 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 5: about it today. 713 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: Okay, So what you said Next Monday, they're going to 714 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: do a press conference over. 715 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: There Monday five o'clock. You're going to have the Alleghany 716 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: County Executive. He's going to be there, the Mayor of 717 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh visit. Pittsburgh President and CEO will be there. Art 718 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 3: Rooney the second will be there. They're going to have 719 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 3: representatives from the twenty twenty six NFL Pittsburgh Host Committee there. Uh, 720 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 3: and then some local youth sports representatives. Cool, because this 721 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: is the draft. Isn't just the draft. 722 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's become an event. 723 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 3: It's becoming it's becoming a city wide event and not 724 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 3: just a citywide event. But they come in and they build, 725 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: you know, they upgrade youth facilities. 726 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: The NFL puts money into the city, into the city. 727 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: It's not football, right right, right right? 728 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 4: I mean maybe they even do again, this is not 729 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 4: my area of expertise at all. Do they do some 730 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 4: construction that helps the city but also helps that Draft 731 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 4: day whatever? 732 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I mean, it's not the 733 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, but it's. 734 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 4: Sort of like that where it's a city wide The 735 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 4: next closest thing the Super Bowl is the Draft. 736 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 3: You know. 737 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 4: I assume they'll get a lot more people than went 738 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 4: to Green Bay, and green Bay had hundreds of thousands. 739 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 3: The record, I believe is seven hundred and twenty five 740 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 3: thousand people. That was in Detroit two years ago. 741 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 742 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 3: I would expect Pittsburgh to surpass that they're expecting. 743 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: I remember Nashville was nuts too. He watched it on TV. 744 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 5: I think it was seven hundred thousand. 745 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: Ok. 746 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 3: They're estimating that they'll get over a million people in DC. 747 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: In DC like that will probably beat Pittsburgh too. 748 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 5: They have more rooms, they're gonna hold it on a 749 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 5: national lawn, and. 750 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean obviously it's the capital of the country. 751 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 4: They can it's a little bit different situation. 752 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: Is there political problems with it though? I mean, like 753 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: and there's no issues with it being there in terms 754 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: of security or anything like that, or maybe it's even better. 755 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 5: Is there any more secure city than d C? I 756 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 5: don't think so. 757 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: That's probably a good thing for them. 758 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, do we know that it Yeah, when it's 759 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 4: here next year, it's going to be over by accuser somewhere. 760 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 5: Right, I know it's going to be right next to 761 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 5: Stage AE. 762 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so you know, set it up the open. 763 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 3: Area there from Stage AE over to those parking garages 764 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 3: and back. 765 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 4: Okay, back as far as we can go. Yeah, that's cool. 766 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 4: And I assume you can get a ton of people 767 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 4: crowded in there, no question. 768 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 3: More so than what so. I've been obviously the Green 769 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 3: Bay and I know exactly where they held it at 770 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 3: Green Bany and the parking lot in front of the stadium. 771 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: But that's kind of a neighborhood, right. 772 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 5: Which, yeah, that's the problem. 773 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 3: Right, it's a big parking lot there, but they had to, 774 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 3: like at one point on I believe Friday, they had 775 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 3: to shut it down, like we can't get any more 776 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:05,959 Speaker 3: people in here. 777 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's a limit. 778 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 3: There's a limit to what they could fit in there, 779 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 3: Whereas in Pittsburgh, I think you could have a little 780 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: bit more in and out with some of those areas there. 781 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 4: And obviously Pittsburgh is not the biggest city in the country, 782 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 4: but it could house a lot more people than Green 783 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 4: Bay can right there. 784 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: No, I mean there's no hotel right the Green Bay, 785 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 3: Wisconsin has about probably ten hotels, I don't know. 786 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: And then they get full ten times a year. Yeah, 787 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,479 Speaker 1: that's about it. Right on the road, they don't. 788 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 3: I mean I can remember years the Steelers staying in Appleton, Wisconsin. 789 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, which is a good half an hour away. 790 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: How far is Milwaukee? 791 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 3: Milwaukee is about between an hour and a half and 792 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 3: two hours ago. 793 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: I mean that would be I'm sure Milwaukee was packed 794 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: for Draft week. 795 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 3: Like we stayed the last time I went there. We 796 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 3: stayed in We've flew into Chicago. We stayed in Milwaukee, 797 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 3: Chicago to Milwaukee's for. 798 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: Minutes superclo right yeah. 799 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then drove up and it was maybe two hours, 800 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 3: give or take to get up to the game. 801 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 1: He's just driving meright along the lake. Can Pittsburgh handle 802 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: a million people coming in? 803 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's going to be you know, the 804 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 3: the You're going to have the hotels all across the 805 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 3: area are going to be swamp Like I expect everything 806 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 3: in Washington County to be booked up. 807 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 4: Oh, I would think I would think anything within an hour. Yeah, 808 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 4: I mean maybe even in the WVU area, you know, 809 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 4: not Penn State, but maybe all the way to Johnstown. 810 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 3: For example, pitt when pitt would play at a lot 811 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 3: of teams when they go to WVU, we'll stay at 812 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 3: the Meadowlands. 813 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: Just to think where we stayed. We might have. 814 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember seeing that one day. I was driving 815 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 3: over by the Meadowlands and I see these guys. There's 816 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 3: like five guys in Clemson warm ups walking down this yeah, 817 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 3: walking down the highway to go to the there's some 818 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 3: restaurants and stuff. And I'm like, huh. And I was 819 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 3: talking with Hillgrove about it, and he's like, oh, yeah, 820 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 3: we always stay at the meadal Land. 821 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think we did back in the day too. 822 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a. 823 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 3: Big holiday in there. It's like halfway between Pittsburgh and Morgantown. 824 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 825 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's not a bad drive after that 826 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 4: at all. I mean there's sometimes you have to be 827 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 4: further out than that. Yeah, okay, so yeah, I mean 828 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 4: meadow Lands will be packed for the draft obviously, I 829 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 4: mean much further probably. 830 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's gonna be interesting, it's going to be curious. 831 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 3: It's a regional event, it really is. Okay, it's going 832 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 3: to be a regional event, and I expect a ton 833 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 3: of people YEA to be coming. I would expect them 834 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 3: to get more than the seven to twenty five they 835 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 3: had in Detroit. I'm guessing that Pittsburgh's an easier city 836 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 3: to get to, not that Detroit's real hard in terms 837 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 3: of you know, if you want to get a flight 838 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 3: to Detroit and can get a flight to Detroit, but 839 00:37:53,840 --> 00:38:00,280 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh drive wise, is probably driveable. I sat down figured 840 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 3: it out one time. It was like thirteen or fourteen 841 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 3: NFL cities you can drive. You're within like five or 842 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 3: six hours of We we started. 843 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 4: That with Indianapolis, like it's one of the best ones, 844 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 4: which is a huge reason the combine was there originally, 845 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 4: you know. 846 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right. 847 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 4: If you start looking at the everyone in division, the Eagles, 848 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 4: you know, Buffalo, you can get to ten super. 849 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: Quick, DC, Buffalo, Indy, Indy, Detroit. 850 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 3: Detroit, Charlotte is about a seven and a half hour drive, 851 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 3: give or take, depending on where you're coming from. 852 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 4: New York twice twice that that counts twice six the 853 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 4: whole division. Yeah, some of the obvious ones. Philly, you know, No, 854 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 4: you get to twelve or so pretty quick. 855 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 3: I did drive to New England one time. I don't 856 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 3: know that everyone recommended. No, that was that was a 857 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 3: full That was an all day event. 858 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was for a playoff game. 859 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: Though, I'm trying to think how far you even go, 860 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: Like Saint Louis is too far, I would think. 861 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 3: I know, I've known people that have driven that one. 862 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 3: I've driven to Nashville. It's like eight and a half, 863 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 3: somewhere in that range. 864 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 4: I think I've mentioned on the air before. But like 865 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 4: the rule or the guideline with the Browns with our 866 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 4: travel was if it's a six hour drive or less, 867 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 4: just drive it. Otherwise fly. I always made it eight, 868 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,919 Speaker 4: like I would prefer to drive. You know, it's post 869 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 4: nine to eleven. It's just yeah, that was Yeah, it 870 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 4: was post nine eleven. 871 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 3: Yeah before that, I mean, you walk into the airport 872 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 3: five minutes before you're flighting, you're on. 873 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 4: It wasn't like they didn't mind paying for it, but 874 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 4: it was like most scouts were like six or less. 875 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 4: I would just drive, but I was always eight. You know, 876 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 4: I could stop or whatever, you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 877 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 4: that'd be cool. We learned some Chicago from Pittsburgh is 878 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 4: not Yeah that's not crazy crazy, Yeah that's not that bad. 879 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 3: So anyways, let's get to a break that's going to 880 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 3: do it for hour number one of the Drive here 881 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I'll be back 882 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 3: with hour number two right after this